/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #404

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>>95154898
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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>>95154898
Don't worry! What will not not be found for now is the 5th hyw challenge!

>MAIN THEME: Giants
>SECONDARY THEME: (choose one to play around alongside the main theme!)
-Skies
-Terrorism
-Board games
>DEADLINE: September 15

Remember that you can play with the theme as you see fit, we want to see how creative you can get!

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posted the too big version in last thread

>>95154898
I didn't forget to link the previous thread at all! It's just it is forbidden

>>95072991

>>95154898
here I was worried because I was banned I wouldn't be able to make the perfect thread #404. Fortunately ban expired in time, but you did it even better than I was going to.

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Just uploaded the prologue to one of two series i'm working on at the moment. This one is just horror and heavy metal inspired. The first chapter of the second series will be uploaded soon enough, hope it tickles somebody's fancy

http://kaspetersen.tumblr.com/

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>>95155555
So that edge was played 100% straight, huh? I dunno bra. You never wanna go straight edge.

>>95155578
yeah, the edge was slightly intentional
the shift kinda changed halfway through but i don't plan to keep it so serious as it goes

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>>95154898

Hey everybody, whats up? Check out my newwest page I just finished of GGZ! I hope yall like it! I also made a video of me making this page ftrom scratch, check it out yall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no9UZo8eNCE

i made this in sketchbook pro, original stuff!

*you can read it on:

-comic fury: http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/
-taptastic: https://tapastic.com/episode/623701
-linewebtoons: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/ggz/introductions/viewer?title_no=66734&episode_no=1
-the duck webcomics: http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/GGZ/
-tumblr: https://gothgrillz.tumblr.com/

*Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/jessethemaker

*AND VOTE FOR ME ON TOP WEBCOMICS: http://www.topwebcomics.com/vote/22062

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Working on our patron-exclusive spinoff comic

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>>95155903
>Patron exclusive comic
What's your comic, anon?
Or better yet, the Patreon?

>>95155903
Aw, I don't ship these two ):

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>>95155715

more pages to come soon! ^^

>>95154931
We're not entering this round, we're taking a well deserved break to work on some of our own stuff. But good luck to everyone entering!

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I hope nobody minds if I stay on last thread's topic of intentional restrictions for a bit; it actually gave me some food for thought.

-Process-wise, the first thing I decided about the comic was that I wasn't going to avoid drawing anything because it was hard, time-consuming or I didn't know how to do it. I was gonna take the time to learn how to do it, even if it meant delays.
-In addition, if I get constructive criticism, I'll try not to just disregard it, even if I disagree with it or it sounds dumb; I'll ask the person to clarify what they mean and try implementing it before I make a decision so my butthurt has time to cool.
-No pages that don't progress the plot; that means no pages with just jokes and no action scenes where the situation is stable for more than a single page.
-Try not to skip over details that would inconvenience the plot.

The rest of my don'ts is mostly about the way I present information to the reader;
-don't show anyone's thoughts directly in thought bubbles or similar (Yeah, I've made Skeggi talk to herself once or twice to get around this, but I'm not proud of it)
-while the "camera" might focus on things to imply what's going on in a character's head, barring magical visions or dreams, it only shows objective physical reality, so no turning a panel completely red to show how angry a character is unless the anger is actually affecting the photons in the scene.
-Similarly, text bubbles only change color to imply an inhuman quality to the speaker's voice.

And a few things I try to keep in mind to reinforce the protagonist's viewpoint
-The camera should generally not care that a woman is sexy. Skeggi is a straight woman who grew up in a culture with very little notion of privacy and genuinely doesn't care about other womens' appearances. Sexy men should either be ogled or censored depending on how hard Skeggi's trying not to stare.
-It's not that Skeggi is short, it's that anyone above 4'11" is tall.

>>95156754
Love the faces on that elf.
>No pages that don't progress the plot; that means no pages with just jokes and no action scenes where the situation is stable for more than a single page.
that explains your pace. I've noticed it's very stable. To me it feels like the equivalent of handmade gif animations or flipbooks, the way that each frame has more of a discrete value than usual, so you end up seeing something that's distributed very evenly along all of its frames.
I never thought before about how it's Skeggi's viewpoint, but now that you say that...
It's really interesting finding out the different ways people restrict themselves. I'm also interested in knowing the whys of it. For every person who thinks it genuinely makes a comic better (or just that they like it that way, or both, or the two are the same thing) there's at least 1.3 people who restrict themselves out of some kind of compulsion. I know I do.

>>95154931
What are the rules of the /hyw/ challenge?

>>95158379
1-3 pages, not so sketchy that you can't read it. just what's there

>>95158379
Basically >>95158419

Simple sketches are fine and play with the themes anyway you want.

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long time no post! thought i'd just pop in here again to see what's happening, i'm also finally almost at the end of my first chapter which is fun

>>95158883
I love that your tone hasn't wavered one bit
feel free to stop by more often

night bump

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Might as well share one of the most recent pages.

>>95156574
Literally no one here likes your comic, please fuck off to deviantart

>>95160586
that should be piece by the way. also french bat is a cutie even if her wings are odd.
also while most of the french here is good enough, i don't think the average schmoe knows marché means market (even if it was a fantastic gag on The Simpsons once and they expected at least some of the audience to understand "beau marché" = kwik-e-mart)

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>>95147619
I do a lot of push ups and sit ups.

>>95161091
Ack,I knew there was a reason I got a C in French. I just used Google Translate for the French.

>>95162191
I mean it's grammatically correct, it's just not at a vocabulary level you want for an anglophone audience.

... actually now that I look at it, that's not even remotely grammatically correct. If you want to say "you artists have a real nice market" you'd say "vos artistes ont un excellent marché"
vos is "youse" basically. you in the plural. and ont is to-have in the vous voice
though I get the feeling the word you're looking for is you've got a real nice RACKET, in which case the French is raquette but i THINK that might only refer to... like, what you use in tennis. However even if it's wrong, it's a cognate, see? so the anglophone audience will pick up on it.

>What kind of things do you just not let yourself do?
Above PG-13 content. Spooky stuff. Boring Filler.
>Is it because you're scared, unable to do it properly, or just an aversion to when comics do that?
All of the above. I'm unable to draw anything either. Pages where nothing happens bore me desu.
>Are there colors you hate using?
I hate rainbows and anything that hurts the eyes. I like black and red apparently.
>Cliches you avoid?
Fanservice in general. I worry more about keeping my plot's formula in-line than outright avoiding cliches. Cliches are tropes, and tropes are simply tools.

>>95162503
Thanks mate, like I said, tried to pick up French, didn't quite grasp it. Also glad you like the bat.

>>95154898
It's so fucked up how easy it is for comics to disappear forever. This charming but amateurish comic Selkie has lost its domain and I only just found its facebook where updates have been posted in the meantime. That sucker has a huge following oddly enough.

>>95162718
Whoa, I remembered that comic, I read my webcomics on my phone, so when the page wasn't loading, I just assumed something was wrong with the site and thought "Oh, it'll be fixed soon" and sorta forgot about it.

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my comix.

>>95162868
I've been adding a lot of havent-updated-in-ages to my "done or probably never updating again" folder lately, including a few I found here. It's actually easier in that case, since I figure if it starts up again, they'll let us know

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>>95160986

And yet you cared enough to reply with such harshness that you would have the balls to speak for everybody here as if there was a hive mind here, it really speaks to your true character of being absolutely obsessed with me and my comic. pretend harder worthless faggot. Stay mad, jealous, and obsessed with me loser, sure, but also consider getting some kind of life while your at it to. Thanks! :D :3 :^)

>>95163087
>"done or probably never updating again
Poor Commander Kitty.

>>95163338
lol Jesse the cuck son is mad. Get back to Mexico and stay there, Jesse "0% white" Gaza.

>>95163338
You know if you were a girl or some pre-teen I would be fine with you're autism.
I see that you have some decent art so why don't you raise your standards a little and actually try drawing so people stop giving you shit. Doing so will help you improve whether or not you care because it feels like you're trolling or shut off in your own world.

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>>95156427
We're Vigor Mortis - everything's linked from VigorMortis.co.uk.

>>95156497
Alas, it's what they voted for (off the back of this picture) - their options were this or the other two cheesecakes (so Slate/Merle or Slate/Cosh).

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>tfw idea for a webcomic that I have toyed with, still not really began to work on the comic proper.
>leave it on stand-by because I began working on more self-contained stories in a special webcomic setting thanks to the hyw challenge. Nothing too serious just mostly to experiment and get used to webcomic schedules.
>make a quick gag about a possible pokémon canon divergence just for giggles a couple of days ago.
>now I want to focus on that one even though it is way less serious than the webcomic of oneshots in a shared universe.

Send help.

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spoiler for bulge

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Please post maps, character sheets and info tables, concept drawings or really anything that is directly related to your comic but not an actual page.
I'll start.

>>95163032
A link to your stuff maybe?

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>>95157281
I swear, people always respond like 2 minutes after I have to leave.
Good to hear Bjǫrkdís is working as intended - I realized I was gonna have several pages of people just walking and talking in a forest, so I'm trying my hardest to make it funny at least.
I'm actually not super happy about the very stable pace - I'd love to have bigger peaks and valleys in the tension, but at the rate I update I'd feel a bit cheated as a reader if I checked in and things hadn't moved on at least a little since last week.

>>95164916
I recently made a little chart to keep notes on the various flavors of viking that'll show up in the comic.

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>>95155928

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>>95166226

>>95166010
how's the comic growing? it's good, but any thoughts on starting a new project?

>>95166557
good stuff

>>95162718
How did they lost the domain? Money issues?

>>95166557
Pen?

>>95167045
Not very. I don't want to shill it around before I have a more presentable site but I'm not even managing to keep my page-a-week schedule right now so who knows when I'll have time to fix the site.

I've got plenty of ideas for new projects*, but even if I managed to find the time, I should probably spend it on Carrion Girls.

*my "projects I wish I had time for" folder has 15 sub-folders with comics ideas in 'em, mostly various blends of fantasy, history, and cosmic horror

Clip Studio Paint, aka Manga Studio, is on sale until Tuesday 12th September.
50% off PRO ($25), and 60% off EX ($87).

I highly recommend getting PRO if you haven't already. If you're serious about working on and printing multi-page documents, go for EX.

Update ver 1.6.7 is also out, and is free if you already have CSP.

http://www.clipstudio.net/en/purchase

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page 10

>>95165029
not him but here you go http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/

i'm pretty sure english isnt his first language so the dialogue is very awkward. still cute style to it

>>95167580
Thanks! I was waiting for it to go on sale

>>95167647
>page 10
where a thread of your comic would instantly go

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>tfw blogger version of my comic is giving me no adshekels
>tfw my facebook group points to it
>tfw still no proper update schedule

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>tfw months since last updated
>tfw passion is gone
how do I find it again

>>95168447
first of all what's your comic so I can try and see if I can help you out here.

>>95168447
>faceberg
out

Can you add a videogame comic to webtoons? I don't see a "videogame" section.
Is tapas my only option?

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>tfw Chrome blocks your ads even with adblock plus turned off

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>>95163755
>Jesse "0% white" Gaza
Literally kek'd my ass off

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is doing comics supposed to be so painf ul

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>>95166557

>>95167066
Cheers, anon!

>>95167136
That it be.

>>95156497
Who do you ship tho?

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>10 new comments
>tfw all made by a thailandese bot shilling his movie review blog

>>95169388
>10
bullshit, post comic

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>>95169433
this is what my mail looked like

the comments had generic messages like "nice blog", "good post" and a link

>>95169592
bots are getting out of hand, couldn't believe there was a twitter audit service to verify follower legitimacy %

>>95169592
>>95169678

At least the bots are nice. Actually, are there bots that leave mean comments?

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havent updated in.... 4 years? that can't be right.

>>95167076
it sounded complicated, I didn't memorize it

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>>95164916
We have the first part of a short story giving insight into the lore and backstory of the Magical Girl comic we entered in the last contest.

It's about a girl traveling to the magical world of Croatoan where everything is alive, even the air and stars, so she can learn from its Empress-the first ever mahou shojo.

Read it here:

http://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/magical-woman-1/

Criticism and comments are very welcomed

Interesting factoids:

Knockers are related to stars.

Stars are terrified of their own reflection.

Modern Croatoans are the miscegenated descendants of natives and cosmically displaced Massachusetts Puritans from the 16th century.

The Puritans were brought to Croatoan by Solomon Kane's Staff of Solomon which traded hands in the Puritan community until it ended up in Salem.

It is also Magical Woman's Dreamstaff. The one with the cat head. It looks that way because its appearance matches the personality of whoever wields it.

In this setting most magical girls result from the goddess Amaterasu bleeding over Japan following a battle with Pele during Pearl Harbor. The spilt blood tinted the souls of those it touched and gave them a divine power that passes down from mother to daughter.

What do you think thread?

>>95164633
I get you man. I meant to get back to my Witch's Hill comic quickly, but ever since my Merchant & Pike comic got more popular than Witch's Hill, I'm tempted to keep working on M&P, even though Witch's Hill actually has a story that I've planned out for quite a while.

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>>95154898

How do you design character clothes? Preferably ones that are timeless and don't scream of a particular culture.

>>95164916

>>95170174
>timeless and don't scream a particular culture

1. When would you ever need clothes like that?

2. What kind of clothes don't indicate culture?

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>>95170192
>>95164916
God fucking damn it. Could have sworn i attached an image

>>95170174
There's no such thing as clothes that don't scream of a particular culture.
Figure out what the character's culture is and give them clothes fitting that.

>>95170174
make them pretty utilitarian and make them look cool. no culture in history has ever actually made their clothes look very cool.

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>>95170476
>No culture in history has ever actually made their clothes look very cool

You are fake news.

>>95169890
I remember there was one bot that would post that I was a troll and that I was trolling his website and then he will spam his links.
But most of the time they're kinda nice, but their english is terrible, I don't know how is that possible. Even google translator does a very good job these days.

>>95168618
Well, point me to the new cool social network I should use to promote my webcomic.

>>95169932
For anyone that's taken a look at the text story-what's the cooler name for a magical girl: taiyo shojo or mahou shojo?

>>95171347
if you tried your hardest, took a week to study, you could not have picked a picture that better illustrated my point

>>95171752
that is a clever bot

>>95172220
i have always heard mahou shoujo. isn't taiyo "sun" ?

>>95170264
neat!

>Always hated when the main protagonist of a work of fiction begins training at the start of the story, and then becomes stronger than the villains/rivals who have been training their entire lives

Since my plot will take place over the course of just a couple years at most, I'm thinking of making a rule for myself where...

>Rate a character's "power" on a scale of 1-5 at the very beginning of the story
>Because of the relative short amount of time, that character will only be able to go up by 1 point.
>Characters from a lower number can outsmart, gang up on, or trick characters from a higher number but can't outright beat in a straight fight

I think this will make the progression of people's strength a lot more realistic, but I'm worried that if the main protagonists start at a 2, and I introduce a villain/rival that is a 5, then it might feel unrewarding that the protagonist can't accomplish that cathartic anime/movie moment where he dominates the rival through the power of hardwork/justice/friendship/etc.

If the villain does lose at any point it'll be through some sort of underhanded means.

Idea:
>high seas pirate adventure
>peg legs and parrots and hook hands etc
>finding hidden treasures
>fighting other pirates and making daring escapes from the navy
>wooing damsels
>maybe a few supernatural elements
>but they're modern-day Somalian pirates

Whaddya think?

>>95173589
I think for something like that, it's better to focus on resources and situational advantages than giving characters intrinsic "power levels".

For instance, if the hero's power level is 2, and the villain's power level is 9 because of his disintegrator gun and his army of demon t-rexes, then first the hero gets the Sword of Legend so he's power 3 (whether there's a quest to find it or a training montage to master its power is up to you, so long as the hero has to work for the upgrade). Then they sneak into the villain's bedchamber, neutralizing the demon t-rexes, and then the hero's sidekick heroically sacrifices himself to drain the disintegrator gun of its battery, reducing the villain's power level to 4, which our underdog hero might just be able to beat.

(also, the cathartic moment where the hero dominates the rival with the power of friendship can still happen- friends mean you can gang up on the fucker)

>>95173589
You have a point, though I like it when either the hero prevails because the villains have been lazy and relying on being-the-best and nobody else ever thought to challenge them, just ASSUMING they had also been training all this time
or when the hero legitimately is significantly outclassed, and wins by a mixture of luck and determination.... the first time. Then wisely realizes (or is taught by someone wiser) that that won't happen again, and needs to legitimately get stronger for next time.

>>95173851
I like the idea of classical storybook pirates in a more realistic modern setting (kind of. it has the potential to get really dark when they have to start slaughtering people, and when bombs and bullets exist), not so much making them third worlders (the whole fun of the classical pirate is he's got all the charm of an aristocrat with all the down-home normalcy of a peasant thief). i DO think we need more black pirates, just because it's a look that works. really suits them. but... if I were you I'd make a brand new setting altogether, with some elements of real life but not all of them

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>>95173957
>Hero defeats first villain with willpower and luck
>Hero knows it but he thinks he may be able to keep outsmarting it's way into heroics
>Next villain almost beats the hero to a pulp but then the previous villain comes and kicks his ass
>Hero accepts that he needs more training or else he won't be able to protect anybody
>First villain offers to become his trainer
>The story pretty much follows how the hero mixes the villain's training and his own smarts to defeat new villains
>The first villain remains in the villain category anyway but he and the hero become odd vitriolic best friends

Fund it

>>95173983
It wouldn't be any darker than traditional pirate fiction, and just as romanticized - there's no reason a third world Somalian pirate can't be as charming as a 17th-century pirate (maybe his father was a high-up warlord who managed to get him an education in the west or something). The action scenes would be different from the usual age of sail stuff, but not necessarily more bloody - guns and bombs and cannons were already a thing back then, and a machete fight isn't really any more violent than a sword fight.

>Comic about an ancient battle between a cult of chinese soul stealers and the monks who oppose them.
>Follows 4 highschool kids in America who were brought into the fight

Besides the main villains, I want to think of a good rival character/goal for each of the characters.

>Character 1 is a hot-headed ex-bully who began fighting with a boxing style but mixed in other striking styles like Muay Thai to help cover Boxing's obvious weaknesses in real fights.
>His major character flaws is his own pride and anger which get in the way of him also wanting to be a good person
>Rival is a super powerful, god-tier boxer that is the epitome of his anger, selfishness, and pride.
>Is a metaphor/parellel to what the character 1 would be like if he gave into his vices and never changed his ways

>Character 2 is a naturally talented kid with extreme reflexes and natural talent that likes to act like he's in an anime and go out of his way to present himself as cooler than he actually is
>His character flaws are that he relies on his natural abilities and never trains, and hides behind his anime personas because he actually lacks confidence in his "true" self
>Not strictly a rival but his character arc involves getting his ass kicked by character 1(who is diligent with his training) and his older sister(who is also powerful but is the epitome of real self-confidence) and an inner battle between his personas which gives him the motivation to shed his mental shackles


The next two don't really have a rival although I do have a vague character arc for them

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>>95174873

>Character 3 trained in the most deadly eastern martial arts but loves fighting more as a form of art or play instead of a way to injure or kill others
>Is definitely the most dangerous on the team but because of his nice nature and desire to have fun over hurt people he opts to use nonlethal WWE and power rangers moves instead.
>Don't have any real character flaws

>Character 4 begins as a depressed, unconfident nerd
>Trains in eastern martial arts focusing on inner-balance and spiritual wellness
>Overcomes his inner demons relatively early on and after expressing that fighting isn't really his thing he more-or-less drops out of the adventure

I wish I wasn't so damn lazy

Join us, Sisters guy. we need to commentate! Either that or install a comments feature on your site.

>>95174996
Ohhhhhh shhhhhittttt my niggggggg,
Hype!

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So guys, still working on that shit. I'm happy with my inking, that's kinda cool now. I get some positive feedback on my art, and for once, i'm really happy on how it comes out. I guess i'm finally starting to get comfy with my abilities.
I need to improve, still, but i'm getting there.

Also I'm toying with the idea of making an horror comic for halloween, something in the lines of Junji Ito's work. Any advice on story, pacing?

>>95171347
black guy in the middle is dapper as fuck man.

I'd share a beer with him.

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>>95176326
oh, and i did a shitty garfield comic, too.

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>>95163032

kinda weird that the girl character is seen from the same exact angle in every frame not to mention that she maintains same relative size in all frames. having every panel zoom in on the girls reactions makes it really hard to tell whats going on, also if you were going for something dynamic (which im assuming from the context) you should really try for more varied perspectives

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>>95156754
>I was gonna take the time to learn how to do it, even if it meant delays.

Oh man, that's something I quite struggle with whenever I have to try drawing something new that's non-solid or incorporeal (i.e. Mist, rain, some type of magic...) the first time
This one was a particular pain in the ass, where I'm going back to edit two already-uploaded pages where the Arc Final Boss uses the Insta-Kill Eye

My MAIN restriction tends to concern the Chapter length, which is:
16 if it just follows Rich & Gwyn
18 if it involves more characters
22 if last arc of chapter
This is mainly to make sure my chapters don't last too long (I think 4 months is a decent time) and the fluff is cut out.
I have an other convoluted one on the max number of figures per panel (to prevent me from dragging myself characters by drawing to many figures in one page)

>>95170174
>Preferably ones that are timeless and don't scream of a particular culture.

Unless you're writing some sort of of very umber sci-fi universe, I don't know if you can even do that. I mean, I guess you have comics like Jojo Part 5 where clothes are very out-there, but even there it has a tint of modern Japanese.

>>95170264
This is one of the coolest new comics I've noticed here

>tfw no feels

There are bad ways to foreshorten, right? In a comic, do you think it's better to exaggerate, as long as it doesn't look totally retarded?

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>>95176157
Yeah, we would if we weren't utter luddites. It is a thing we'd like to change in the future, as unless you're on either site you can't really comment. But we're inept in technical stuff. We'll figure it out eventually.

But anyway, yeah, this was the end of our second season of the Sisters. It didn't really go as intended, as things were hectic on my end as a writer and we ended up finding ourselves doing more to clean up old plot threads than to delve forward into new ones. It was a bit too much decompression at time, and we spent less time with Beatrice and more time with Beatrice & Guy/The Society; which is a shame because she was going through some stuff that would've been fun to dwell on by herself. Next arc for sure.

We're at about 540 pages into the Sisters, that has been shown. Which is a pretty decent investment of time and effort. I'm pretty happy with it, but there's always a lot of room for improvement and after how talky this season was I want more action/magic shit. The little interlude will give some of that fix, but we need to deliver it more as that stuff makes the other stuff worthwhile.

Links, I suppose, for those who wanted to read the stuff:
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapas.io/series/The-Sisters

>>95170264
I've lurked in a few threads recently, and I like the vibe of your stuff dude. It makes me think of the Paper Mario games, probably due to the silhouette importance and the style being a bit fun.

>>95176565
Nice to see you're still producing. I gotta catch up.

>>95179656
Do studies and learn how perspective actually works, then you learn how to exaggerate. If you don't know what you're doing it's more likely it will look retarded then not.

>>95174996
Cool, I don't think Dune is public domain though

>>95179874
Do you think it could be a problem, even if I don't plan to sell it ?

>>95179680
oh you have tapas, I guess I could comment on that (though I have to log out afterwards because it saves your place otherwise and that's terrible)
I was just laughing at that "where do the clothes go?" line, and i assumed all this time that, anytime transformy shiz happened, they either got shredded or oozed-out-of, so they should have still been there
it's not like i'm obsessed with this kind of thing or anything, not like even when i was 6 it bothered me whenever someone transformed on some cartoon and their clothes were fine..

>>95179680
sisters! good comic I just have a few questions , hope the first isn't to personal ,how's the profit end of things? end game? how did your writer find you?

>>95179981
Chel is the sort who would comment on that, as it bothers her too. Was sort of a throw away line after I noticed the clothes never showed up in the other transformation sequences, and Conrad never had that issue (though he took of his clothes before he went monsterful).

Chel didn't get to do as much as we'd like this chapter. She was supposed to have been watching the snuff film Liam and Ava made back in the day and complaining about the effects when Jam went upstairs to talk to Sammy. Mostly to get across Chel is not really phased by things after a wall tried to murder her.

>>95180009
This is the writer.
Profit ends for the Sisters are borderline non-existent, but enough to keep the dropbox online. We managed to score an agent from the thing, so primarily we're doing pitchworks for potential money. So, we've got the makings of money; but not money proper yet. Not ideal, but we didn't really expect to make money off the Sisters. Stuff we've sold on the side has done adequately enough.

End game is to have this be our "we can do long form continuity work" that helps establish we can develop an IP and production bible stuff. Which sorta shits on artistic integrity, but we both know what we're good at. We're doing the Sisters for a lot of reasons, that, and we like Urban Fantasy and want to contribute something to the genre that isn't super off the rails.

We found each other because we both liked D&D/tg stuff and we both liked 4th Edition when it came out---mostly because it was new. He was an Eberron guy, I am a Dark Sun guy; but we hit it off talking game shit and comics stuff. I do have a formal degree in Creative Writing / English also criminology because I wanted employment... so we just work well together. We've found our groove, and we play to one another's strengths. We've been buds for about a decade now.

>>95180180
>We managed to score an agent from the thing, so primarily we're doing pitchworks for potential money.
I don't have enough hands to give you the applause I feel inside.

>>95180180
That's super cool dude you two have a really good thing going that's hard to find. I bet if people thought y'all were chicks or gay this comic would take off. not trying to say anything by that but I bet you know what I mean. Keep it up though! I have a feeling I'm gonna see something of yours on shelves someday.

>>95180447
That must explain why it's taking off halfway

>>95180447
>>95180633
Zinger.
Also, sadly kind of a point. I outed myself the other day and we got like ten new readers. I wish I was just a few years younger, so as not to have been conditioned with keeping my personal business to myself. Apparently, I could be doing gangbusters.

As for stuff on the shelves, here's hoping dude. Glad you like/read our stuff.

anyone want to be my artist? i have some cool ideas

>>95180887
you don't want that kind of fans.

>>95180887
Oh ha, yea that'll def score some points, especially with the type of comic yall have.
>>95181013
Any fan is a good fan

if you are over 30 and making comics you should reevaluate your life, it's pretty pathetic

>>95181013
I mean, as someone who has done certain works before where I really wanted people to get invested in a narrative; having someone who isn't there for the same sorta meeting of the minds entertainment is a smidge disheartening. But at the same time, I'm just happy people read it. Maybe I wish they read it for other reasons beyond what I'm up to, because I sure am not any representation guru; but I'm happy they choose to read my work.

I dunno, it is a complex sort of thing that once again I likely wouldn't be feeling if I were a bit younger or didn't have a past of people reading my work due to requirements or bureaucratic nonsense rather than a real desire to indulge in my stuff. But I don't get to choose my audience, and at the end of the day we make this comic for ourselves first and foremost. We've yet to pander to anyone other than ourselves, and as such I can always find some comfort that maybe people who read our stuff for surface reasons end up reading it because they like the content.

>>95181120
>type of comic.
Yeah, that's sort of the weird part of doing something that vibes half towards slice-of-life. Honestly I think the downtime makes the action worthwhile, and most of it works. Some people really like the downtime stuff, others just want the gore and action. Sometimes we hit one audience with the other side of it. We could appeal more towards target demographics, but we kind of like how the world feels right now. In terms of realness. Months later, people are still dealing with the death of a friend and not wanting to admit his faults; most people just want to get by, and most badness remains at the fringe until it gets under the skin.

Honestly the next arc will be interesting to see by way of reception.

>>95180294
Thanks. It's all just potential though. But it is nice to be seen as worthy of attention by corporate stuff.

Been fun rambling. I like popping in here from time to time. Best of luck to y'all.

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>>95170174
>How do you design character clothes? Preferably ones that are timeless and don't scream of a particular culture.
a t-shirt and jeans, tracksuit, or naked man

are the few choices you have if you want to make cultureless and timeless cloths.
cloths are a clear indicator of what's from where. there are few cloths that are worn everywhere. usually "universal" means boring
i don't know what you're looking for

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>>95176326
>black guy in the middle is dapper as fuck man.
that's Sammy Davis Jr.

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Wew, almost done. This is where I'm ending the next part. I think it's a good part to leave people hanging.

Update: Saturday(?)

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What's the prerequisite skill to start doing webcomics?
When do I know I have something that is competent enough to publish online?
And no, before you ask, I am not currently sufficiently skilled to do so at the moment.

>>95182710
Post something of yours

>>95182710
There's a prerequisite? I was not aware, I just started making one. It has to be competent? Geez, I just hit publish when I was done.

Am I doing this wrong?

Just go ahead and make a comic. Even if it's poorly drawn, you can get an audience if the comic is entertaining enough.

>>95182752

absolutely not
with all the work that i have saved to my desktop there is a non-zero chance that someone from /ic/ or /co/ will recognize me and i don't want to scurry down that road
you can simply assume that i'm one step above absolutely rudimentary

>>95182772

Yes there is
I don't want to sully my mediocre ideas with embarrassingly awful execution
You can decide, from the moment you think you can start, to be Lackadaisy or something from the Bad Webcomics Wiki. I'm not in the business of immortalizing how shit I am.
There are absolutely prerequisites.

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>>95182839
I mean, okay, if that's what you think. Here's my tip to making a webcomic... just make one. Like I said, I just hit publish when I started out. Learned as I went and (hopefully) got better as I did. Your first comic isn't going to be great, but I can only hope you improve as you go along.

Pic Related: Me when I started vs Me now.

>>95182710
You develop the skills to making comics by making comics. You will never be completely sure in your skills, and the fear of failure and ridicule will always weigh on your mind.

Don't be a pussy, start working on your comic. If you don't want to start because you think you'll make something bad, you'll never get any better.

>>95183028
>>95183100
>>95183103

Yeah, actually, I do think I am a pussy.
I haven't had the backbone to try for eight months, why would I try again now?

Yeah, I don't think anything will come of this. Sorry for wasting your time and bumping your thread unnecessarily.

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here's the last page ever

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All my life and work is going down the drain currently. I just want to give up all together with a bullet.

But I said I wouldn't let myself die without doing my comic

>>95183352
in retrospect, rocks with such skinny limbs were basically asking for this outcome

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OC screencap full of advice from 2003.

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>>95176546
Sorry bones, I speed it up.

I was trying other angles but, it felt weird and out of place. I didn't mean to feel samey and lazy to you. I thought I could get away with this. I guess i need to to redraw one of the panels.

Total newfag here, new to making comics and I'm currently designing the cast/locations (character/location designs can really eat up time), it's technically best described as a cape book but it does take elements from several genres. Any cape fans or comic creators have some advice for a noob?

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Well last week was a break but now I can come back to comics!
Still working on the tumblr page for the English version tho, my fault there for wanting to have a nice cast section first.

Eitherway, it's a story about face in your money and making a cute bug lady upset at your horrible money management. Next week will be the hyw challenge about giants.

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>>95183416

>>95183471
Cape books are really flexible on themes actually, it isn't a genre as much as it is a "well in this story there is a hero with superpowers and a costume".

The best advice I could give though is that you be careful with the worldbuilding. Worldbuilding is nice so you can have a coherent setting and all, but you can spend years on it trying to make it perfect instead of just having half of it set and the other half work it on the go while doing the actual comic.

>>95183416
I wouldnt take advice from ghastly, as much as I adore his comic and it was a seminal influence on me (teehee)
last i checked he's moved on to tracing CG models

>>95183100
I... Like the art on the first page better and it's not just the colors. It's more lively I dunno

>>95183593
>he's moved on to tracing CG models
True, but I don't see any connection between this and the advice.

>>95183625
I guess I stopped reading at "Don't do spritecomics hurr"
spritecomics are what they are.

Same newfag from above, thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
On another topic, I've been discussing it with the guy working with me on the comic, do you guys think a web comic inspired by manga/anime is likely to do better than a comic more heavily inspired by western comics?

>>95183773
Depends on how you make the publicity. As long as it isn't unpleasant to the eye and you have a good sense of scenery/angles/pacing even doodle-like comics can do well.

>>95183773
>do better
"do" in what sense? I will like it better, assuming you're any good at it.
Keep in mind that manga itself was heavily inspired by western comics

True true, what i mean is which fan base is likely to be more receptive. I should have been more specific.
My art style is somewhere between western and manga, more cartoony than the average western comic yet more detailed than the average manga. I try to keep some of the appeal from both. With that in mind I'm pondering how I should label it based on how likely each fan group is to respond positively. But stylistically you could honestly label it as either.

>>95183981
Post an example of your drawing skills so we can get a better idea

>>95183981
It's not a good idea to worry that much about pleasing groups. No matter your motivation for doing so, that effort would be better spent on just making your comic as good as you can (sure it's easier to get appeal and response, but there's a reason that's easier. Easy come, easy go)
In any case though, if it's in-between, you're in good shape (though your description makes no sense. how can it be both more cartoony and more detailed? and I hope you aren't thinking in such simplistic terms as if those are what define those styles) because somewhere-in-between-the-two is the most popular by far

>>95183352
more recycle bin material that will fade into obscurity in some lonely corner of the internet. RIP, you won't be missed

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page nine done

Ah, my bad.
A better way of saying it is my designs are more stylized than the average western comic and they have a clear manga influence.
Basically western proportions with a manga flair. Sorry if that's not a great description.
I'd post pics but I've only got access to my phone at the moment.

And good point about concerning myself with which groups I'm aiming for. Making something with high quality is the top priority .

>>95183981
Learn to reply.

>>95184314
Literally just figured it out.

>>95184259
oh I get what you mean now. And when you say western comic you're speaking more of capes than of peanuts. something very realistic, and thus something stylized is moving away from it.
It sounds like your heart's in the right place, so I say go for it.
I don't suppose any of your art is online in a place where we could easily search for it

>>95184507
no need for a question mark there
this page's layout confuses me a little, but i'm sure it will make more sense once it's done.

>>95184494
Seems cultists don't like TRAITORS

Also nice to see you again after some time, are you doing well?

>>95184439
You're dead on, my art style is somewhere between the realistic cape style and an ecchi/shonen style.
Currently I've got none of my good stuff online do to going on a long hiatus, needed some time to improve and I didn't want to post my many mistakes during that period.
I'm going to be doing a bunch of promo type pics, portfolio pieces is the term unless I'm mistaken, staring characters from the comic before I start posting the comic though.
I'll post them here when I can.

>>95184561
hmm, I guess you're right, like it will have a ellipsis there instead, though I guess it can go either way.
For the layout, hmm, possible it might be because the fourth panel words bleed into the first panel, so I'll change that. Maybe I should move the first panel's dialog higher too.
>>95184571
blugh, college started again, plus I'm working on a porn comic that will hopefully do well!

>>95184575
The puzzle pieces are all coming together now. It's funny how similar a rank amateur and a very serious professional can sound. I can tell now you're the latter. Mad respect for that, but if the stick up your ass ever starts to feel uncomfortable, feel free to remove it while you're here. Not so much that you can relax and not worry about judgment, but just that the more seriously you take yourself the more you're a magnet for it.
>>95184647
It is an odd quirk of grammar that is currently somewhat in flux. Stating out loud that you have a question is still not the same as a question, but we're getting to the point that it's almost official to -drop- question marks in sentences that would otherwise be questions, if they're fully rhetorical and spoken with a downward inflection. Things like "he's right, isn't he."
>porn
oh you had BES be sharin that with us. Your emotionally expressive art is just what porn needs to be good.

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>>95164163

Your patrons have good taste.

>>95184700
That feels strange, though I guess any changes in grammar will always feel off.
but thanks! basically the porn comic will be about witch superheroes (since that's the writer's thing and mine put together) and it focuses on light hearted mind-break and submissive stuff (plus minor other elements).
There's no real story involved since we're sick of ten pages of exposition before sex, so ours only has a page of set-up or immediate sex.
I guess I would sum this up as Angel Corps but without fucking gore or death

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I just finished the cover for the first chapter.

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>>95183448
>>95176546
there you go.

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>>95172833
It is. In the text story at http://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/magical-woman-1/ its explained that magical girls started when Amaterasu was attacked by Pele as revenge for Pearl Harbor. The sun goddess bled over Japan and her blood in the form of red light gave several woman magic power that passes down from mother to daughter.

These new superhumans were first called taiyo shojo or "sun girls" to honor Amaterasu. The rest of the world simply called them magical girls because that was the most obvious thing about them and Japanese culture gradually absorbed the term as mahou shojo. In modern Japan the two terms are virtually interchangeable, although taiyo shojo has old-fashion connotations.

A magical girl from a few generations back is more likely to be called a taiyo shojo than a mahou shojo.

>>95168480
You gotta push through it, that's what writers with wb do it.

>>95168856
Do something long enough, and it become hard to continue doing, even if it's something you're passionate about.

>>95174075
Why would the first villain want to help someone that beat him? What does he have to gain from it?

>>95185535
Maybe he was just a villain because being a villain is funnier and saw potential in the hero as a worthy opponent, so he is grooming him into becoming his perfect nemesis.

>>95185612
Is the villain the main boss?

>>95185671
Yes.
No more luck factor here, just pure power vs pure power, to see who is the last one standing in their great epic final battle.

>>95185715
That makes since now

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got a new one for you guys

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and another

>>95154898
Do they have one of these for animated series?

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It's been I while. I've been busy trying to get a new job, in a few days I'll know if I get it. Meanwhile I'll dump the latest stuff I've done.

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>>95186455
Second page.

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>>95186466
Just one more to go.

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>>95186485
That's all folks.

>>95185213

Great job anon! That really helped the page a lot!

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>>95164916
The central focus is in the middle, which is my world's equivalent of the Middle East

I got a few drawings of uniforms too but it's got anthros in it

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tfw taking an indefinite hiatus from my webcomic because fuck it

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>>95186711
Tell me about your world Anon.

>It's got anthros in it

So does our Metal Animals universe (which also has giant knight robots and a post apocalyptic feudal setting).

http://www.capeworldcomics.com/chapter/metal-animals/

It won one of the /co/ challenges so /hyw/ can't be too anti-fur. Go ahead and post what you got.

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>>95176326
Some of the lettering could do with improvement. The space is there, the text just needs to fit into the space better.

P1, P5 & P6: rearrange the line breaks.
P3: coFfee
P4: Center the text block; nudge it down and right a few pixels.
P5: No crossbar-capital-i for "If"
P7: A more circular speechballoon would fit better than a vertical oval.

Suggested text changes,etc:

>>95186455
P1 Dialogue 1: Insert a line break into "Finish off // that bitch."
P1 Dialogue 2: End with a double dash -- instead of an ellipsis to indicate speech that's suddenly interrupted. Ellipses are more of a slow pause than a sudden stop.

>>95186466
P10, linebreaks and grammar: "Well, well... // Did you think // you could ..."

>>95186485
P4 & 5: double dashes again to link the dialogue.

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>>95187139
>>95176326
One other thing I've just spotted: In panel 8 I'd have the speechballoon tail exit from the side, next to "brutal", and point to his mouth, rather than from the bottom and pointing to his shoulder.

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Lettering is just as much a part of the art in comics as the drawings themselves; great art can be let down by shoddy lettering. Spending a little more time getting it just right will improve things considerably.

>>95184900
Excellent work, anon.
For some reason the bad and horrendously bad (coldfusion, dewd, bones) artists usually get more replies and attention than the good ones - that's probably why they keep coming back.
Anyways, this looks really promising, the colors are especially nice. Really looking forward to your first chapter, anon.

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>>95187007
Alright then. The world's story is veeeery long but the gist of it is that the world's two major superpowers ended a war in a stalemate. One is Ankberia, an autocratic/stratocratic empire inspired by Nazi Germany + Soviet Russia, the other is Darrazee, a republic where corporations have more power than the government: in the aforementioned conflict they gave war loans to those poor nations that needed support, unofficially turning them into debt slaves and controlling them indirectly through economic power. The two superpowers operate with the excuse of world peace but do it at the expense of the independence of the countries they conquer, whether they're open about it, such as in Ankberia's case, or not, like Darrazee. The two superpowers exploit the continent of West Talar in preparation of a second war for supremacy.

The world is the same size as Earth but is a little colder. It's also more geologically active and the eruption of two supervolcanoes plunged Rejka in a volcanic winter with the zones closest to these craters turned into ash wastelands. The world has 4 hybrid sapient species, all anthro. The technological level is that of the Old West.

I'll stop here or I'll go on forever. Here's one of the uniforms I mentioned for the time being

Welp. I have a new mirror, and a sketchbook, so I'm gonna draw myself partly-naked. My human body is my weak-point.

>>95184900
Dats sum gud jazz brutha

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here are some more redone pages of Landship Up.
College has kind of left me drained so redoing old pages is all I can do for the moment.
Any critiques going forward? You guys have really helped me out so far.

>>95187630
String phones don't actually work if the string isn't taut.

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>>95187630
I changed the panel composition to be vertical and split the pages up, to make more readable.
If anyone has any pointers on writing a strained family dynamic, I'd really appreciate it.
Should I go to /lit to get writing advice?

>>95185446
The soccer player attacked the Japanese sun God?

>>95187658
Duly noted. I'll have to fix that. that explains why it looked kind of weird.

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>>95187680
Other Pele.

She did not take kindly to Pearl Harbor and wanted revenge (which in this setting Amatersu participated in. Part of the lore is that the Imperial Japanese government manipulated the kami through lies, threats, and promises to create an army to rival the American superhero population)

They had a huge fight all across the Pacific. The ocean boiled, islands cracked, and in the end they both retreated to their homelands to lick their wounds.

I'm trying my best to make Capeworld's lore rival other superhero universes. There's tons of lore just behind Japan's taiyo shojo.

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>>95187826
>>95187680
>>95185446
>>95172833
If you guys have anymore questions about the lore of Magical Woman I'm more than happy to answer them.

I think the text story does a good job of explaining the basics, but if it doesn't I'd like to know what wasn't clear.

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R8 the edge

>>95188069
Just a demon guy. It doesn't seem edgy at all.

>>95188069
Teenager's first edge. He's got an adorable :3 expression and he doesn't even have the silhouette of a dick.

>>95188069
Well, it's less buff hellboy. Hellboy's not very edge - maybe in desing but not in character.

>>95188284
That doesn't even make sense.
Stalinism =/= Communism

>>95188127
>>95188194
>>95188441

Great, I was worried it would come off as tryhard

>>95188069
Pretty edgy. He's got shamrock shake all over him. He could've just drank it, but he had to spill it all over himself to just show what a bad ass dude he is.

The edge.

>>95188469
>its not real communism
Fuck off

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>>95169205

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>>95112066
you know i don't say this very often guys, but i'm gonna die

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>>95189956

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>>95189969

>>95184887
I'm all for some light-hearted mindbreak and submission. It's rare you get that without it going full Gor, and you never wanna go full Gor

>>95187139
thanks boyo!

>>95184900
Cuuuute. Have you posted before? It looks new. ALso very nice texturing.

>>95185446
>magical girls started when Amaterasu was attacked by Pele as revenge for Pearl Harbor.
I fucking love it. In that case, keep the sun girls thing.

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>>95189499

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>>95186096
>>95186186
the expressions..

>>95187659
awwwww babby rabbys

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>>95190633

>>95187826
>in real life the emperor claimed to be descended from the gods
>in this setting the gods were manipulated by the government
i love it. it works that in nicely while also allowing for japan to become good guys after that government was deposed and a nicer one put into place.
I have to wonder though how Pele felt about the US in general. cant have been too fond.

>>95191361
How would we know? We haven't read it.
Why do your proofreaders like the side characters? Why do they think your main characters are dull?

>>95191361
Get better proofreaders.
Talking more seriously though, it's all about execution. Tragic backstories and clear goals mean nothing if their personalities and behavior are bland.

>>95191361
Goals and backstories do not equate to likeable personalities, and personality is the main element that makes a character endearing and enduring. Try describing your characters making no reference to their occupations, backstories, or goals. Do this for both your major and minor character's, describe what they'd be like if they were just some guy you had a short conversation I'm the bus with, and see what your main characters are lacking.

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>>95187354
thank you, this made my day.

>>95190402
Yeah, but I did posted a few pages for the #403 thread. Here's another page sample, still working on it.

>>95192328
Personally I wouldn't want compliments from people who feel the need to put others down, but in any case this is good stuff, please stick around.

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>>95190481
The terms are both used in the setting, but taiyo shojo tends to be used to refer to older magical girls while mahou shojo refers to younger ones. It's sort of like the difference between Lady and Miss. They sort of mean the same thing but one is a little more formal than the other.

>>95190931
>I have to wonder how Pele felt about the US in general

In this timeline the Blount Report of 1893 didn't get to be ignored by the provisional government and overturned a year later. Instead several American pulp-era superheros acted on it and restored the monarchy.

Pele actually likes America because the superheros seemingly carried out the will of Grover Cleaveland's government.

It's just one of many ways superhumans altered the timeline in the Capeworld setting.

Another fun Capeworld fact: China never went full commie like it did in our timeline. It's local superhuman population of superhuman youxia kicked the communists out and they formed a tiny splinter nation called the People's Republic of China or PRC.

In our world the PRC under the one China policy is China and Taiwan is the splinter nation. In Capeworld China is China and PRC is the splinter nation.

>>95191361
Post your stuff or post a link. I'd be glad to take a look at it.

>>95189992
>Calarts bean mouth

stopit!

>>95191361
Make your side characters the main characters, duh. You'll quickly see whether the main characters were actually uninteresting or your plot / writing isn't good enough to keep your readers interested once you go beyond the surface traits with a character.

>>95187354
>For some reason the bad and horrendously bad (coldfusion, dewd, bones) artists usually get more replies and attention than the good ones
Let us break this fucking pattern, people of /co/. Let's comment good shit more.

>>95192395
Normally I'd apologize for my comment but the three stooges are notorious retards who deserve the flack they get. You'll realize that even the least technically skilled artists who post here will get positive feedback and are generally accepted as long as they show some will to improve.
Bones is a 90% confirmed fake who creates webcomics for the sole purpose of baiting and shitposting. Don't defend them.

>>95192762
well if they actually are older, one imagines they'd start saying taiyonna

I like a lot of these details. this is a fun alternate timeline

>>95189956
>>95189969
>>95189992

What program do you use for colors, anon?

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>>95192395
Oh I didn't mean it that way.I was referring to the later part of the anon's comment. And thank you too, I'll do my best.

>>95193202
cold and dewd get mostly ignored, with any attention being negative, so no

>>95193227
>Taiyonna

That's actually a really cool sounding name. I'm going to see about incorporating that into the writing. Thanks Anon!

>>95192395
>>95193288
You two are too nice for this place, get out while you still can.

>>95193382
whom do you think you're talking to?

>>95193108
I don't think that's possible.

Bad stuff is easy to comment on; the worse it is, the easier it gets to provide useful advice regardless of genre - whether it's superheroes or teen drama or space opera, if the spelling's wrong or the anatomy is broken beyond belief, you can point out what's wrong and make suggestions how to fix it.

Decent-to-good stuff is much harder to talk about constructively, especially if it's of a genre you're not yourself into. Like, take >>95184221 for example. I can't give that any meaningful advice because I have little way to tell apart actual flaws in the anatomy and stylistic choices that will enhance the story for its target audience of twink-loving gayfags.

I guess I could post at every single page where I don't see any glaring flaws and go "yeah that's decent", but that's not really doing anything other than wasting time and bump limit.

>>95192994
i didn't want to try to do a realistic mouth because i was scared of reaching a "uncanny valley"
>>95193242
i use photoshop, but try to work in increments of 10s between color settings. sometimes i go in 5s if needed

>>95193556
>the easier it gets to provide useful advice regardless of genre
It is true. But with good art we must provife not an advice, but cheering. Its profitable for the whole community in the long run.

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Hi guys! I'm so excited!! After 2 years of procrastination, I finished story boarding & I put out the first page of my comic today :3

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/the-first-one/intro/viewer?title_no=33151&episode_no=2

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>>95193712
example
narrowing things down really does help when choosing between so many colors

>>95193072

>Make your side characters the main characters, duh

People keep telling me not to do that though.

>>95194314
When they say that, what they mean is "don't do what you are currently doing, which is making side characters into main characters"
Honestly though I see no problem with making the main characters the least interesting. It's tradition

I hate how the longer you work on something, your work looks significantly different than earlier pages.

I'm almost tempted to redraw all my older pages, but I won't get anywhere if I just keep redrawing stuff.

>>95195071
Leave them like that, let it be proof of how much you improved over time.

>>95195071
I leave all my old stuff up even though now I feel like I could do better. It serves as a reminder of how I progressed and what not to do.

>>95195071
even the professionals have that
Hell, the longer dragon ball shit goes on the worse the style looks, even if the actual anatomy and skill and technical whatnot continued to improve.

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>>95190826

>>95196193
whoa, we cowboy shinigami now?

>>95196269
It's for a short spinoff comic voted for by our patrons (inspired by the cheesecake linked above, which they also voted for)

This one:
>>95164163

>>95196706
I hope you're getting a lot of money on that patreon given how you're putting more work and time into rewards than the comic

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Welp, here's a WIP of what im working on thus far. Turns out, I have absolutely no clue how to draw a crowd of people. Just need to add some plants for the planter and I guess it'll be fine.

>>95197350
crowds are hard.
if you post this one at a good disply size I can analyze it for you. as it stands now i'm getting that broken-image icon because my browser just refuses

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>>95197404
This a good size?

>>95197487
excellent
holy crap that frontmost guy in the third panel looks familiar.
those crowds look very good, that's roughly like i was going to suggest

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>MFW bones

>>95196784
We definitely do more pages than extras (plus extras are good for keeping patrons and thus ensuring more pages).

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>tfw a fellow anon from hyw follows you back

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>>95198448
>tfw some people actually put up links to your comic on their sites without our prompting
>and you haven't linked them back
>even though it's been months if not years

>>95198517
I feel bad about it too, but I'm just genuinely not as much a fan of their work

>>95198582
Yeah no I get that, linking is like a recommendation to your readers and it should be done responsibly.
My problem though is just plain old procrastination.

>>95198517
>>95198694
Yeah same here. Actually just today began giving follow to many anons from here and comics because I already had the links but didn't do anything with them on my actual artblog. Baby steps I guess.

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>>95179680
Ditto, I haven't been keeping up with most web-comics I enjoy recently; you say this is is the send of "season 2", do you have a planned amount of seasons?

>Which is a pretty decent investment of time and effort.

"Decent investment"? That's what people who do webcomics full time produce in the amount of time your guys have been at it! I started mine some months before your and I've got around 130 pages done (and 21 pages left to the end of this arc), you guys have done an outstanding job

>>95198694
Yeah I'll cop to that as well, there's a solid dozen comics I should link to that I haven't gotten around to
Not that my links page is doing anyone any favors, doesn't even hage images. and obviously nobody goes to it

>>95191361
No one likes L from Deathnote because he grew up in an orphanage. And no-one likes Dan from Dan Vs because he was a nice little boy who broke one summer vacation. Also, why are you trying to turn me against your proofreaders?

>>95199249
It's weird, if someone asked me the other week who had more pages, I'd say it was you. Sisters doesn't feel like it's been 500+

>>95199249
Spring, Summer, Winter
Spring, Summer, Fall
Winter, Spring, Summer

We've got nine, though we could end it at five. Five is the height of things, but the idea is that we'd end it with Jam going off to college and getting away from her family. Felt like a nice bookend to start her off very enthusiastic about learning magic and then end it on her trying to be happier with herself.

We think of our issues as episodes, so it helps with the flow of things. Generally eight-or-nine issues to a seasonal arc. Mostly they're sorted as arcs by who is in focus. First year is mostly on Erin, second year is more on Beatrice, last year is more on Jam; but you can see how that's more of a guiding mentality that practice. Erin's not so much the main character of the first two seasons, she's just the catalyst for a lot of the bad stuff.

>>95200193
We appreciate that. Posting four pages a week might help it feel like it flows quicker, or there's been less pages. We also produce by way of scenes, so each update feels generally self-contained.

>>95201068
oh man, college Jam definitely sounds like a point where it would become a new series and gain a new title or something
>4 pages a week
that's what it is, I'm not thinking of each update as multi-page, even though it is.

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Hello I come here to share some nice words from Mad Rupert on comic-making

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>>95202662

>>95202662
>>95202679
Thanks Rupert

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Things get a little fan-service-y on this and part of the next page. But the black-haired character is being controlled in her sleep to steal things.

Each person controlled in their sleep is being shown something different. This character is kind of a pervert, and at least at the moment has a crush on the MC after she protected her from someone. So when she's being controlled, she sees a version of the MC, in a skimpier outfit both to appeal to the perverted one, and also so she has a different outfit in case the real and fake MC appear together in the future.

This is going to build to where the guy who controls people in their sleep is a major villain. But in this part, it's the one old guy, his cyborg daughter and his secretary trying to set a trap for a thief who is stealing things- and this character being controlled to defeat the trap.

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I made a new page!

https://imgur.com/a/kcSwo

>>95203842
good concept.

>>95203887
Oh I remember this. Glad you're still goin'. Those are some pretty heavy effects.
>>95204393
Huh. I was wrong about this making more sense when it was finished. Are the witch ladies just a memory? The fact that she's actually looking at her ... memory-self being dragged off is a little weird. that's not how memory usually works. But if that isn't her, the what the beans is happening?

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>>95204460
her unconscious friend is currently being dragged away, no memory flashback involved, maybe the context would make more sense if you've seen the last two pages (since I move so slow, everyone probably forgot)

>>95204526
I guess the issue is "has witches with hands on her shoulders -> same or similarly-hatted witches carrying someone away by her shoulders"

Does this sentence make sense?

"Doesn't everything here belong to you anyway?"

It's being told to a character who is robbing his own palace. It's supposed to be my punchline but it feels poorly constructed. Wat do?

>>95204986
Sounds grammatically correct to me

>>95204986
"But don't you already own everything here?"
"But you already own everything in here!"
"Everything in here already belongs to you."
"But don't you already own all this?"
"Don't you own everything in here?"

Not grammatically incorrect, but I could see how it might feel awkward.

>>95205204
Thanks a lot for your help ;_; I think the 4th sentence will work

>tfw only a line of dialog and got stuck for hours.

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>>95155715

guess whos got a fresh new wip? :3

>>95205204
At the end I used the 3rd one. I just made it into a question

"you know everything in here already belongs to you, right?

It works fine I think. Thanks again.

>>95205688
nice titties

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>>95205739

I know right? lol

>>95188069
>red marks aren't swastikas and upside down crosses
>smiling

Not edgy enough for me.

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>>95196193

How lewd will this get?

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>>95205688

done. ok im gone, cya next time yall! :D ^^

>>95204526
Happy to see i was of help for that hand, threads ago man!

>>95201068
Oh man, now I REALLY have to get back into this, then. I first I thought it was going to be more of a trilogy; Chapter 1 to the one called "The Truth" being the first "book".

Still, I find it insane that Peter manages to draw 4 pages a week while ALSO making some of the best looking pages in /hyw/. I don't know if I've mentioned it before, but I also appreciate how the comic isn't too decompressed; looking back at old chapters, each update moves the story significantly forward, feeling more like a self-contained "scene" from a TV drama rather than something which requires the context of what came directly before and what'll come directly after in order to make sense

Many webcomic artists I think work with the idea of a published comic issue or chapter from a manga magazine in mind (i.e. what matters is the final product) without thinking that the reader often has to wait seven days for the next page.

I ->try<- to do that same; not always successfully, but The Sisters is a perfect example of each update standing on it's own. If anything I need a proofreader to help me avoid dumb shit I regret putting in the comic a month after the page is up on the site

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Before the color, Photoshop

>>95202662
>>95202679
They're a bit of a little bitch irl, but it's good advice.

>>95208189
the next step: trash can

>>95205697
good choice, sarcastic rhetorical questioning when feeling incredulous is always nice

>>95208189
Wasn't expecting this to be on paper.

>>95187139
Just draw porn.

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>>95196193
Aaand it's done.

>>95205856
Carry On film levels? More cheesecakey/innuendoes than full frontal bonking (this time anyway).

Man, I really hope I get my cintiq soon. Ever since I left scad, I've been doing it all on pen and paper and it's been so slow.

Especially since I dont have the luxury of simply just scaling things if I accidentally draw them too big or too small

>>95212626
right? that's so danged useful. that and rotating

>>95212803
It especially helps when I'm trying to do something in perspective and I just need that one little nudge so it looks perfect, rather than slightly off.

HOL UP.