When Ben Hurst created SatAm Sonic, he modeled the show based

>>95144651
Still like AOSTH's but friendlier, down-to-earth, and sympathetic.

>>95144741

Still a chronic backstabber. He's closer to a troll than being genuinely friendly.

>>95144651
Boom's Eggman is literally Egotism and Selfishness.

For all intents and purposes, his "Enemies" are his friends, his "Battles" an attempt and one-upsmanship and his plans for domination are to make a themepark themed around himself and charge people tons of money.

>>95144651
>When Ben Hurst created SatAm Sonic
Gonna stop you right there.

Ben Hurst was not a director, a producer, a character designer, a conceptual writer, or even a major element in the pre-production and planning phases of the show. He was a minor writer among the regulars who submitted scripts for DiC who took over major writing duties for season 2 and pitched season 3 as well as other continuations to various parties. He wrote like two episodes for season 1. He wasn't even involved with the pilot.

You may as well say "When Grant Morrison created Batman..."

>>95145673

I stand corrected at that part then.

>>95145736
Hurst is pretty much the same as Penders: a writer who joined early, tried to make his contributions a bit "deeper" without really understanding what that means, pushed for more material with him at the helm unsuccessfully, and displaced his contemporaries in public consciousness because he interacted with fans and kids are too fucking stupid to check the credits.

It's just an internet thing, stuff gets taken at face value and misinformation spreads.

>>95145673
>Still shitting on other people' work
don't you have a comic to write, Kenny boy?

>>95145990
>Correcting the mistaken notion that one of the many writers was part of the show's conceptualization is "shitting on their work."
>Implying any of this information is incorrect or reflects poorly on Hurst.
>Implying Penders would point out the exact same kind of misinformation he benefits from, having been a backup writer who is somehow confused for the comic's 13-year lead writer.

Were you born this stupid or did it take a concentrated effort?

>>95144651
>he modeled the show based on the Freedom vs Tyranny aesop
(citation required)

>>95145990
Ken's too busy suing IDW.

>>95146727
Is he really? Why

>>95146910
It's more vague threats.

IDW has reprinted Star Trek comics DC sold them the rights to. Ken was one of the people who worked on those and his contract entitled him to royalties...from DC. He's only trying to cause a stir about it now and not when it happened because this is really about them getting Sonic.

Boom eggman is the crux of the show, never have i seen a character take so well to the role of protagonist and antagonist at the same time. Boom works so will in that although you often want eggman to suceed you are never disapointed when he fails. It also helps that the show is comepletly unformulic and doesn't feel the need to force eggman into the villain role every episode. Infact im pretty sure there are more episodes that focus on him than sonic.

>>95144651
I don't care bozo

>>95144651
THAT SALLY IS CUTE!

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>>95146727
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>95151804
Wait, Charmy's a girl?

>>95147774
Got an official source on this?

>>95144651

I think I like the personality swap more than the original....maybe.

>>95146727
How has he not been declared a vexatious litigant by this point?

>>95151848
I wanna suck dem big fat bat tats.

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>>95152023
Feminine penis anon, or stinger I
dont know.
>>95151767
Mods always gotta be deleting my smut, its like someone is always pissing in my cheerios, but you cant tell them because your the one who got up from your seat.

>>95152023
No he's a boy, that's the joke

>>95144651
I hope the freedom fighters come back in IDW Sonic.

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>>95144651
the video game robotnik literally enslaves creatures of the forest into robot slaves and pollutes the planet Mobius (Oil Ocean Zone). Robotnik burns forests down (first level in sonic 3). he decieves people like knuckles.

chaos emeralds, rings of power

SatAm sonic leaves IEDs around robotropolis

"freedom fighters" are called terrorists by authoritarians

toning down the villains is another example of dumbing down the audience. tv networds and the entertainment industry don't want anything to be subversive, they want idiocracy. it's one of the reasons x-men has been shat on and all but destroyed entirely.

liberal identity politics without leftist class consciousness divides peoples, so of course BS like gay iceman, black domino and nuPPG are going to be sold because they help manufacture a low common denominator that doesn't demand any good writing or include context of older characters with diversity that already existed

>>95148179

It helps that Mike Pollock's been accustomed to being Eggman that he makes it work with his delivery.

>>95151804
>nuSally costume on Rouge instead of classic Sally costume

Damn it.

>>95155875

That would be even more unfair to Sally.

>>95152031
The man's own Twitter?
Shortly after IDW was announced as the new licensee, he started raising a stink about how they didn't pay him for the Star Trek reprints.

>>95152170
Because he's technically only filed one superfluous lawsuit so far.

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I wonder when the IDW comics will start coming out?

>>95148179

The race is one of the funnier ones in that in the context of the rules, he really did nothing wrong except be overconfident.

>>95156302
All we know is that it's starting in 2018. First bit of info will come next month on the 8th

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>>95156302

>you will never see this storyline resolved.

has the story people ever told us how it would have ended?

it would be right to do it at this point, like the story of half life 3

>>95156550

If you count a retcon/reboot a resolve, sorta.

>>95156550
That storyline was resolved though. She was going to shoot Sonic, Silver stopped her. There was plenty of bullshit ways for her to be cured before the reboot.

>>95156550
Ian's more interested in keeping all future doors open.

You know, even though plenty of other writers tell readers what they were planning all the time. He just doesn't want to be assed, quite frankly.

>>95156800
How disappointing for someone with that much talent, but I suppose you made your choices too long ago to sanely look back now, eh?

>>95146727
CWC can help.why not just ask him in his serious YouTube account.

>>95156550
>it would be right to do it at this point, like the story of half life 3

Whats going on with Half-life?

>>95152105

Some say Amy's a lot scarier here than the original, and the original kinda scares them already.

Question, /co/. What's up with this "Eggman's daughter" I keep hearing about? I know it's something fan made, but from what I've seen, it's supposed to be pretty popular.

Can someone fill a relative newfag in?

>>95157573
A boss in Sonic Mania that has Eggman upside down can be seen as a person with big hair instead. It was interpreted as Eggman's niece, and since it was fanon that wasn't just smut or edgy bullshit, it caught on quickly.

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>>95156302
Metal Tails looks kind of bland and goofy. I think it's the little hair spikes on his forehead- they don't look robotic, it's just hair.

Plus, c'mon, we all know what the real Tails copy is.

>>95157198
it's never being made, so the dude who wrote the story released it.

>>95154697
I hope they don't. It's time to move on from them.

>>95157971
delet

>>95158407
I hope they appear again, just not as "Freedom Fighters."

Bunnie, Antoine, Nicole, etc make for interesting characters, but nobody wants to actually put in the work to make them major characters. Allowing them to be side characters who pop up with the same relative frequency as OCs and the Chaotix is fine, especially if they aren't glued to each other by the hip anymore.

>>95151804
CHARMY IS A MAN'S NAME AND I'M A MAN!

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>>95144651
>No hairless belly
Shitty design, desu.

>>95159776

Is that guy still around?

>>95159914
According to reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/cepc0/chadthecartoonnut_will_be_missed/, he's been out of the art game since 2010 due to personal reasons.

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>>95156608
Lost Hedgehog Tales. Ian plans to release that when he can

>>95160361
He's been saying that forever though.

>>95160505
I was listening to a podcast he guest appeared on when he said that a few weeks ago and it sounded like some legal shit is keeping him from releasing it at the moment from the way he phrased it

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I want to fuck Julian Robotnik

>>95152023
only female bees have stingers

>>95160361
He said like a year ago that it was in indefinite hiatus. The first part was fucking terribly written and barely revealed anything besides.

>>95154845

Nice try, watch this:

>SatAM is clearly socialist and communist propaganda. The show is about Freedom Fighters who rebl against a Eastern european themed dictator with minor monarchy overtones. Robotnik is all about industry and science while to freedom fighters they you science and industry only to advance the goal of their guerilla tactics. Even in the lore of the show Robotnik replaced an old and inefficient government with a new more productive one. When a former disscenter turns it's not of his own volition but being magically turned into a robot, thus defining robotnik's side as mindless enslavement and anyone who disagrees with you is an enemy.

>The socialist paradise comes from that the freedom fighters pretend to share everything but ultimately follow the former royal complicitly. There is no arguments or discourse. Only fighting and trying to kill anyone that opposes them.

>>95160361

Yeah but really his drawing would have been through Mattel if it was official.

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>>95159679

Take this wait a grain of salt but I appreciate the bullshit Penders throws from his monkey cage.

It's no secret that Archie is terrible and it's suspicious that alot of talent work for Archie and then quit the entire industry. Artists always get screwed in general and many companies have poisoness work environments.

The industry needs to recognize that artists and writers aren't a pair of severed hands flopping around on Wacom tablets and keyboards, that they have rights and deserve more than a pink slip when they ask for health insurance or a pay raise.

These are things industry talent are only going to get if they stand up and start fighting back, as in reading contracts and taking charge of their careers. That means lawyers, lawsuits, and making sure companies don't pull crap like they do.

>>95160595
I wonder what it was like before Mobotropolis was turned into robotropolis.

>>95157376

That sounds like fun.

>>95161023

Yet that's still above what manga studios give, and they're arguably doing better than comic studios. That just shows how fucked up all of this is.

>>95161023
Dude, Penders spent a decade turning a blind eye to all that shit, never once acted upon their actual wrongdoings (he got sued by them if you'll recall), and never said anything that wasn't public knowledge already shared by former Archie staff.

His claims against IDW are fucking nonsense because it's a bunch of cases of the original companies (DC in the case of Star Trek) exploiting loopholes to make money while terminating the conditions of the original contract.

He does NOTHING for creators' rights. He has never given any additional insight into Archie and he has helped absolutely no one but himself. You're falling for his empty gestures if you think what he does is in any way what the industry needs in order to fix its problems.

>>95157971
My headcanon sez Eggman designed Metal Sonic with a quirk of not being able to fly unless it has Doll Tails on him.

>>95161120

Kinda reminds me of Medaka from Medaka Box.

>>95144651

Would anyone watch a show with characters based on this character swaps?

>>95162501

I would.

>>95157971
Tails doll was in the comic too. He was a giant in-joke on creepypastas.

>>95163548

Wasn't he something like a "Chaos-eqeued" entity as well hiding in a doll?

>>95159776
Pink stomach Amy is canon though, she wears a 2 piece swimsuit in Sonic X

>>95164529
That is secondary canon. Also I'm pretty sure she could also fly in Sonic X.

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>>95159386
This would be fine. The original Freedom Fighters were based the animal friends from the games, so just draw them to look more like the animal friends and have them be incedentals.

>>95154845
>Mobius
Stopped reading right there. I'd rather hear thr nutter from /vr/ talking about the Unified Fantasy Zone Setting than here people try to pretend that Mobius is something other than a comic book invention.

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>>95146727
IDW shall pay for their sins!

>>95164728
Well technically it was a Sega of America invention back when they were given carte blanche to write a Sonic backstory for American audiences. Just like the name Robotnik. Sega fully intended each region to have it's own canon before video games started becoming more story-centric and cinematic.

>>95164913
Which is funny, seeing as the American story is what became the basis if thr Fleetway comic and SATAM became the focus from America.

>>95164735
Imagine what the other Combaticons were feeling through the Gestalt Bond when this happened.

>>95164700
I don't think they need to be further streamlined: they fit the aesthetics more than Honey does at this point.

>>95162501

Girly girl leader Sally and cool confident stalker Amy. I don't know what to think.

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>>95166805
Sonic needs no leader, king, master, chef, boss or any other superior.

>>95167057

Of course not. Sally's more of a leader of the Freedom Fighters, and Sonic's the one who assist them from time to time IIRC.