Batman #30 Storytime

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Nice to see Jordie back on colors for this one. Part 1 had a different colorist.

>>95140808

Hell Yeah!

>Stretching this shitty arc with even more filler
>Meme Man gets to explain how he became a meme
God damn

>>95140862

Aww Mister Grumpy pants is policing my posts. Adorable

>>95140865
wait, did batman spray that graffiti?

>>95140924
>all of King's Batman was just a meta-setup for this page
20/10

>>95140808
Thanks for the storytime!

is this the actual comic? wjy tthe fuck is everything so disjointed, where is the fucking connection between these pages.

>>95140850
>cameras on penguins
Kek

>>95140972
FUCK

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I like the approach of the last two issues,
not having the "NEXT ISSUE" stinger text.

>>95140980
hell no ;_;

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Superman: >>95140989

if they want the joker then why dont they just follow one of his retard henchmen home to the place where they meet the joker?

>>95140980
Can't they just stop with that fucking meme?

>>95140980
god this is dumb

>>95140980
>>95140857
I honestly did not Batman to side with Riddler. I thought the twist would be that he would side with the Joker.

>>95140956
honestly using Sisophys is fucking the laziest thing in all of fiction

>>95141064
What?

>>95140980
This was cruel from Batman.

>>95140980
Haven't been keeping up with Batman but read for Kite Man.

Did not get this issue at all. Riddler killed Kiteman's boy? And the whole issue is about how pathetic Kiteman is? And Batman is helping Riddler despite Riddler killing people? Am I missing something or is the comic just bad?

meh.

>>95141089
>the comic just bad?
it's too kino for you to get.

>>95141089
You can't read the middle of the book and expect to make a lot of sense from it.

>>95141089
>Am I missing something?
Obviously yes.

>>95140980
I think this guy is one of the three Jokers thing, thanks for the storytime OP.

>>95140817
Neat.

>>95141089
I mean, the book isn't really that great, but coming at the middle of story and then wondering why this story doesn't make sense is kind of dumb no offence.

>>95140808
Thanks for the storytime.

>>95141109
>>95141164


I expected interlude to mean standalone. Ahh well.

>>95140808
Thankd op

>>95140837
I know, this arc is getting extremely boring

>>95140808
>>95140831
That's a terrible set of covers.

>>95140956
holy shit this is good
I would pay the fuck to see ballad of kite man on the big screen

>>95140957
I can follow it just fine. a breath of fresh air to have shit going straight to what matters next after all this decompression bullshit

>>95140957
There's a lot of time skips, you only get to see the moments where Kiteman gets his ass kicked to show his perspective.

Christ, is /co/ full of idiots? Did you skip high school?

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>>95140972

>>95140962
Aw Batman feels bad about Kiteman.

>>95140980
Anyway Joker is going to win somehow since Joker is the big boss and Riddle is Riddle and Batman obviously prefer a guy who wants to kill him instead of his family

>>95141441
He should.

>>95141492
yeah but batman is gonna betray riddler and stop him from murdering joker

>>95141492
>instead of his family
But he doesn't have a family during this time?

>>95140980

Thanks Norrin Radical. You're the best thing coming out of DC Rebirth.

...OH NOW I GET IT..His son's name is Charlie..like Charlie Brown

>>95141064

>Hasn't read Camus
>the post

>>95140865
So, why didn't Batman take Kite-Man prisoner too? Or at least hand him to the cops?

>>95141788
they specifically singled him out as the one they would let keep get away until he's trusted by Joker, believing him the easiest to make talk when put to the screws

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Batman 030 (2017) (2 covers) (webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/CHiDOART/file.html

>>95140980

So Batman got Kiteman's son killed, sides with the killer, beats him up and breaks him and humiliates him in front of Riddler. Damn.

>>95140888
I never understood how an overweight 50 year-old man who usually only has one useable arm was ever a threat to anyone, much less Batman.

>>95140903
I still don't understand why Two-Face was on Team Riddler in the first place.
Also, did they get fucking Zsasz to follow this "no killing" thing too? Seems impossible.

>>95140903
Since when is Two-Face capable of doing this? He would just flip a coin and then decide what to do.

>>95141876
>I still don't understand why Two-Face was on Team Riddler in the first place.
He flipped for it.

>>95141898
Two-face is the least consistent batman villain.

>>95141089
The idea is that the war between Riddler and Joker was so devastating, Batman was forced to pick a side in order to stop it, and he chose Riddler as the lesser of two evils.

>>95140980
Joker still has the Penguin and Solomon Grundy left, right?

>>95141696

Kite man's name is Charles "Chuck" Brown, I'm guessing his kid was named after him?

But yeah, he's named after Charlie Brown.

>>95141848
>>95141933


Thanks guys, reading these two replies I get what the issue was trying to do, show how far Batman went in the war of jokes and riddles.

People are going to call me an idiot for disliking this disjointed sotrytelling.

Holy shit being Kite Man is nothing but suffering.

I'd love for him to get the Clayface treatment. Maybe he could just join the Tec team?

>>95141848
I am honestly going to see what happens. See, there is a set up here and we know Batman is going to completely fuck Riddler somewhere down the line. I mean, as Eddie said to Bane when the latter was going to beat Batman to death "We (Eddie and Batman) both know he deserves this."

>>95141035
>>95141055
meme-level responses, I see.

>>95140850
Why doesn't the government just bomb all amusement parks in Gotham?

>>95142123
>Why doesn't the government just bomb all amusement parks in Gotham?

Because the government in both Gotham, and the state Gotham is in is incompetent due to rampant corruption. This has been canon since at least Year One.

easily the best issue out of the entire storyline, which isn't really saying much.

>>95142166

Also, the US government in DC comics aren't good guys. Their super hero team is literally made up of villains, and their previous liaison to the Justice League tried to genocide meta humans.

>>95140980
So, what's stopping Batman from just sucker-punching Riddler right now and taking him to the cops? Now that Joker is pretty much done for he doesn't need him anymore.

>>95141089
Riddler killed Kite Man's kid on the first Kite Man interlogue.

Also yeah, the whole issue is from a perspective of a D-List Villain. So really, what were you expecting? Kite-Man saves the day?

It literally has a page with Two-Face going on about how now that they're with Batman they have to stop killing people.

Batman sided with Riddler because despite how edgy this Riddler is, he's still not as crazy as Joker and can be reasoned with.

>>95141198
should have read the first interlude then.

>>95142199
the rest of Riddler's crew probably, we already know that he's gonna betray Nygma since Nygma hinted about Batman deserving the beat down Bane's gonna give him because of shit that went down during The War of Jokes and Riddles

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Tom King is a hack. His whole run on Batman has been trash. I'm so done with this garbage event and his garbage writing.

>>95142250
>I'm so done with this
No you're not. You still got plenty more King Batman reading ahead of you in your future.

>>95140850
>That Penguin's face in panel 3 in front of the ferris wheel

>>95140924
>>95140956
I realize all the meta points about Batman, the Gotham setting and superhero comic books in general King is making here but it wouldn't be bad if he remembered to move the story forward along with it

This whole run should've been like the Kite Man + last issue, they're so much better than the other 27 issues

Miss Snyder yet, /co/?

>>95142573
Not really, no.

>>95142573
Not at all.

>>95141868
The unuseable hand was always a tommy gun disguised as a puppet. In fact, one can conclude that being always armed lead to his more aggressive persona.

>>95143042
Yeah, but any loser can use a gun. What makes the Ventriloquist so special?

>>95141198
This is the 2nd part of the interlude. The first one was the previous issue and had a more straight forward narrative.

>>95143076
well he's immune to mind control and similar psychic attacks because they hit the dummy but scarface is the one in control

>>95143141
That's not gonna be of much help in actual fights against people who don't bother with mind control.

>>95143076
He's just a mobster, like Penguin. Ventriloquist is nothing special but Scarface is good at his job.

>>95141945
I wonder how Penguin is going to weasel his way out of a prison sentence.

>>95140903
This isn't how Two-face works. AT ALL.

Jesus, King. This isn't some deep cut Z-lister that requires a lot of research.

>>95140817
This is probably better than entire issue. I'm so sick of this shit arc.

>>95143210
Two-Face shouldn't even be Riddler's lackey in the first place.

>>95143242
I'm sick of Two-Face being everyone's bitch to be honest.

>>95140980
Batman is satan lol.

>>95140920
Jesus, Scarecrow looks terrifying drawn by Mann.
>>95140924
Good page.
>>95140933
lel

>>95140888
Really?
Hed never to refer to Scarface as a puppet cause he doesnt believe he IS a puppet.
Its like, the whole basis of his character

>>95140980
I mean,i guess i understand them giving kite man a backstory to put drama in the story,but like,the joke with him is gone. It isnt funny anymore,so if they do it again once the story is over,its not gonna be funny.
Also,in retrospective,he aint that deep of a character either. I mean i pity him,but i dont think this kite man is a better character just because of tragedy.
In any case it just seems someone wanted to make a story of a man involved in the war and thought kite man was the best man for it.

>>95141848
It took a while, but it's nice to see exactly why Bruce was so hung up about it.

>>95140980
Obvious set up. Batman made Kiteman a promise in the first part of this Ballad thing. Kiteman being the last one left is so he can see Bats take down Riddler.

>>95140980
Please say its a ruse, this sweet innocent cinnamon roll dosent deserve this.

>>95142573

I miss Morrison!

>>95142573
He didn't even leave to make me miss him.

I hope Penguin bailed out of Joker's team to be Riddler intel. That would be the most in character thing for him to do in this whole arc. Well aside from the camera penguins.

>>95143273

Same, when was the last good Two Face story?

>>95140893
>Bringing a kite to a batplane fight

>>95140888
>Scarface and I were fighting Killer Croc. Then we were fighting Batman. And Batman took Scarface and Batman went away.

But don't dare say King is a hack.

>>95140936

HOLY SHIT TRUE

>>95143217
I can't imagine what the sales will look like by the time this shit wraps up. I haven't met or spoken to a single person who's enjoyed it.

I honestly don't know if I've heard anyone say they like any of the arcs after I Am Gotham. His only good issues are Swampy and Fudd.

Do we really have to suffer King's garbage for another couple of years? If it goes below 100K again can't they just axe him?

>>95144753
>His only good issues are Swampy and Fudd.
First issue of "The Button" was good as well.
I was also suprised how good it sells compared to how little sense every arc makes but then I saw r/comicbooks posting about it, which was 24/7 kingwank. I guess it has an audience.

>>95144926
Yeahhh, I actually liked the pacing and the story itself. I know a lot of people disliked that it literally moved the story 2 minutes forward but I appreciated it as being a good issue.

You're right though, upon googling the response it seems like there are some people blinded by their love of his shitty little trilogy (wasn't really shitty little but still...) that they'll ignore how much he's either phoning it in or how little he cares for batman.

>>95144753
King seemins more interested in writing about bat characters then batman himself. Thats why Batman makes stuoid ass decisions or sidevwith folks he would never side with. Just so King can write them.

>>95140837
Kite Man is the best thing about this arc.

>>95145172
A piece of corn in a piece of shit may be the best part of it, but it's still not exactly appetizing.

>>95145076
It is a shitty little trilogy, just like this is shitty little Batman.

>>95140956
>Kite Man is the Bob to Joker's Deadpool

>>95145076
I honestly don't think he is phoning it or doesn't care about Batman. He just simply doesn't know how to write him.

>>95140980
yikes

>>95141697
Are you serious dude? Myth of Sissyphus is the whole reason its an overused trope. Everyone has read Camus because its entry level philosophy 101 shit and then everyone thinks they're being so clever putting it into their story despite the fact that their "deep philosophical insight" is understood by every community college freshmen looking to get an easy A.

>>95145234
his other books may not be my taste, and I do think Vision is legitimately bad, but there's more merit in them than his Batshit.

>>95145291
I think theres something there but I think it goes further. He cannot write a legitimate hero. Personally I think King needs psychological help. And I don't say that lightly. Please don't REE about that. Just disagree if you must. But the dude refuses to write a book without including clear cries for help. Every character is a barel functioning depression or angst ridden fuck.

Drawing a parallel between being batman and self-harm because of depression isn't a bad idea. Having bruce actually be a self-harmer is a bad idea.

>>95145361
Why do they keep cutting themselves?

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>>95145310

It's understood by fuck all philosophy freshmen, because most philosophy student don't understand irony and think Nietzsche was talking about strongmen rather than artists.

Is King's use of Camus's philosophy a bit hamfisted? Maybe, but having someone like "Hell yeah - Kite Man" following Camus's worldview is quite interesting for the character, especially when one compares him to Batman who very much follows a more ubermenschian philosophy.

>>95145361
I think you actually have a point, anon. The guy worked under the most shady organization after all.

>>95145310
Are you fucking serious? Anyone who says that a writer cannot reference a classical myth is aids an idiot.

>>95140957
its komikino you just dont get it

>>95145399
Literally almost every single one.

>>95145470
True, I can only imagine Bourne Ultimatum situation they had the dude in. Bag over the head and all.

>>95140808
I will say the Kite Man issues were the best so far but only because Janin isn't on the art. Otherwise it's just as shitty as most of what King's done with this book.

>>95145523
There's a difference between a clever reference to a classical myth and a hamfisted insert of an already overused philosophical worldview. King isn't even trying to be subtle here. Kiteman literally summarizes Camus' thesis in a conversation with his son? Its silly and obvious and seems completely unnecessary. We already got an outline of Kiteman's absurdist philosophy through his entire monologue about accepting his life as a joke. But just in case you didn't get it, King has to beat you over the head with an overt reference to Camus' essay.

>>95145172
>Arc about a war between Riddler & Joker
>Best part is Kite man

>>95145444
Remind me again where the ubermensch cuts his wrists and why tying Kite Man to absurdism is anything other than obvious and lazy?

>>95145444
I feel like you're a King fan who didn't necesarily read any batman before. So you post that image to make it look as if you have (even though it's literally the google result for "which batman stories do i read to sound cool".

I'm not attacking you, per se. It just seems you're in this for King's ideas rather than Batman. Which I think is King's problem too. He wants to write his story rather than write a Batman story.

>>95146653
It goes further than that, he fundamentally misunderstands the biggest character in the medium he chooses to work in.

>>95146044
Imagine being this pretentious.

>>95145361
I don't know, tragedy is always the easiest story, everybody knows that, its' just a cheap trick, that's why there are so many "dark" stories in comics, I'd say it's their favorite plot.

>>95146806
You're being just as pretentious. It really just comes down to how you feel about the incorporation of such material.

>Anyone who says that a writer cannot reference a classical myth is aids an idiot.

setting aside the sloppy semantics, this isn't what he said at all. You're acting as if incorporating Camus into the story it's automatically good. he's saying it's hamfisted which makes it bad, and cliche which makes it worse.

Neither is right, its both opinion, but don't act like he's the pretentious one here.

>>95146742
See, I'm divided on that point. I think he understands that he wasn't going to "make his mark" unless he toyed with the concept of Batman. The problem is, especially after Snyder's terrible run, we just want Batman to be Batman. And instead we're getting "wouldn't it be cool if Batman were like this" in a non-"what-if" story.

>>95146806
King is literally pretension bingo.

>>95146044
I hate fuckers like you who shit on the idea of writing as an artistic medium. It's very easy to tell when someone just doesn't appreciate creative writing, they are unimaginative and want to rob the story of all character.

>>95146894
>You're being just as pretentious.
Not even close.
>You're acting as if incorporating Camus into the story it's automatically good
No I am not, I'm saying anyone who says using literally allusions is lazy isn't very literate minded.
>it's hamfisted
No it is not, you just arbitrarily decided that.

>>95147046
I hate children like you who think base level philosphy is creative.

That his point and now mine. You and the other faggot are literally lobbing "you don't like creativity" when he's actually saying that what you like isn't creative.

Fuck off. Jesus christ the juvenile posts this past few months have made this place worse and worse. King isn't good just because you think he's good. he isn't infallible. Philosophy in writing isn't inherently good or creative.

I hate fuckers like you with no sense of quality.

>they are unimaginative and want to rob the story of all character.
what character? The character of Kings stories is literally "this shit is so heavy and burdensome and im so depressed. the world is just TOO real." before adding some high school level intellect in the last three pages for faggots like you to marvel at.

>>95147168
>No I am not, I'm saying anyone who says using literally allusions is lazy isn't very literate minded.
quote where he said that.

Do it faggot. You can't.

>>it's hamfisted
>No it is not, you just arbitrarily decided that.

Yes it is you just arbitrarily decided is wasn't. See how that works? Opinions. We all have them.

>>95146894
>don't act like he's the pretentious one here.
He is, He is objectively being a pretentious twat and honestly you're coming off as a pretentious twat yourself.

>>95147274
I didn't say he was. If you quote the first part of that I called both of you pretentious.

You clearly don't know what the word objectively is. Only a pretentious twat would call a subjective opinion objective.

>>95147227
>isn't creative.
Fuck you, Kite man turning to be a Joker Loyalist with an absurdist world view and a backstory that actually play into the main story arc? That's creative as fuck.

>>95147330
In my opinion it isn't. I don't see why you're sitting here stating your opinion as objective fact while calling others pretentious.

>>95147249
Right here
>>95141064

>>95147249
>you can't
It's his entire argument!
>oh a camus reference?
>how droll.

>>95147355
Well then guess what m8, your opinions shit because that it's a creative direction to go with Kite man.

>>95147298
It's not a subjective opinion, it's a baseless criticism.
>oh a sisyphus reference!
>0/10 shit comic what is King doing oh no how ham-fisted.

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>>95140972
WOW Kiteman Feels. Say what you want about King but this right here is good.

>>95140808
this "war" has been boring and shit but the issue was good.

>>95147362
how is
>honestly using Sisophys is fucking the laziest thing in all of fiction

the same as

>I'm saying anyone who says using literally allusions is lazy isn't very literate minded.

>>95147432
I really don't care. I'm simply pointing out that your view here is pretentious. Which you continue to be.

>>95147390
>>95147512
It's a poorly executed lazy reference. Kite Man is inherently absurd, making it explicit and literal in the most obvious manner imaginable is not good writing.

>>95141898
Lazy writers prefer to have him talk to himself instead of trying to remember how his character works.

>>95147512
you saying it isn't subjective doesn't change the actual meaning of that word. Beside the fact that I agree with him that Sisyphus is cliche enough to be devoid of any merit, that's actually a text book example of a subjective reason for not liking something.

>>95147699
How is it not?

>>95141898
>>95147722
Even in the fucking TAS he had schizo tendencies. That's fairly well used for Two-Face.

>>95141920
though this is right too.

>>95147701
Is Kite man really that absurd tho?

>>95147789
His name is Kite Man.

>>95140980
So let me get this straight: King turned Kite Man into a beloved meme character simply through the catch phrase "Kite Man, hell yeah?"

So this is the power of comic book writing. Glad I dropped this shit.

>>95147771
Saying one example is lazy is not the same as saying the general practice is lazy. If you can't see the difference there I can't believe you function on a daily basis. I'm dead fucking serious. There's a massive difference between the two.

You've wasted all of our time now that you've essentially proven how retarded you are.

>>95147803
And Batman's name is Batman.

>>95142055
It's just King fanboys upset that you don't love him like they do

>>95147829
But why is it lazy though? It did exactly what an allusion is supposed to do.

>>95147896
Laziness has nothing to do with effectiveness or correct usage.

>>95147861
Yes, he adopted a persona of a flying nocturnal animal that no one has any positive feelings about in order to create fear. Not a fucking children's toy.

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>>95144005
The Big Burn, flawed as it was, had really great moments with Harvey's character.

>>95148011
So, did Two-Face go back to not knowing that Bruce is Batman after this?

>>95148074
Didn't he kill himself? Then Snyder ressurected him off panel.

>>95147995
Bats are cute tho.

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>>95148074
He killed himself at the end of the issue and he was just brought back later like no part of that entire story even happened (he showed up in Forever Evil just fine).

>>95140817
Thought that was Jimmy Olsen for a second

>>95147046
How am I shitting on writing as an artistic medium? I'm trying to hold the medium to a higher standard. How is literally summing up someone else's work creative? That is the opposite of creative. Its derivative. For the record I think writing is the single best artistic medium.

>>95147168
I never said using literal allusions is lazy. The way it is specifically being used in this instance is lazy. But I see that we're going down the path of subjectivity here so I won't bother arguing.

>>95147274
>objectively being pretentious
kek thanks mate this one was good for a laugh

>>95147330
My problem isn't with the philosophical viewpoint of Kiteman in this story. Kiteman being an absurdist actually makes a lot of sense and is quite funny. My problem is with the way King conveys this fact to the reader, by having Kiteman actually sum up Camus' writing in a monologue. It reads to me as King having little faith in the intelligence of his reader and deciding to spell out his influences and intentions in the most obvious way possible.

>>95147390
Again, not my argument. The success or failure of a reference or allusion is dependent on the context. Here the context is Kiteman explicitly summarizing his philosophy by directly pulling from Camus in a conversation with his young son. It fails on multiple levels.

>>95148011
Who's McKillen?

>>95148314
It's not King explaining it to us, it's Kite man explaining it to his son.

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>>95148456
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Erin_McKillen_(Prime_Earth)

>>95140956

Why is this "guy rolls a boulder up a hill over and over again" thing used so often? Is that really the only parable that people know?

Is Kite Man the opposite side of white privilege that the SJWs don't see?

Is Kite Man, truly, all of us?

>>95148873
Kite Man doesn't exactly have an education in literature (I think it's in engineering).

>>95148873
Basically what two of us were saying above while being called pretentious for saying it was cliche. Literally heard a Dan Patrick use the Sisyphus example just this morning because of it's commonality.

>>95140817

I had no idea this was coming.

>Paul Dini

This just made my pull list.

>>95142184
Trevor?

>>95140995
Wait, is this supposed to be a new Absolute Edition?

Why not just combine it with the long OOP Dark Knight absolute and re-release?

>>95149698

It's for DK3, it's not re-release.

>>95140980
Someone fucking kill the fucking Riddler

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>>95140924
>>95140837

So is choosing Riddler's side/betraying Kite-man's promise the original sin that Batman is telling the story?
Did Bruce kill the Joker once?

>>95140916
>Cluemaster
>Not speaking in Cluemaster's Code

>>95152235
King didn't get to that part of his wiki page.

>>95141288
But anon there's only one bad cover there. And it isn't Tim Sale's.

>>95152254
King and Seeley made use of it multiple times in Grayson. I'm surprised it didn't get snuck in here.

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>>95142225
I think Bruce was going to choose Joker, before he killed his hostages for kicks last issue.

>>95142290
Fuck you Tom.

>>95141059
That is the twist. What a twist. It's a double cross.

>>95140817
I'll trust in Dini, he could fail but at the moment he has earned my trust.

>>95148266
me too

>>95140967
1992 Batman return reference.

>>95140893
Poor Man-Bat.

>>95145361

This makes sense to me, but i still hate his entire run. King is a faggot.

I keep reading because im interested in rebirth as a whole. Also to see if they acknowledge any of the post crisis stuff like how he met Selina. But its getting really painful to follow.

>>95140879
Change his name from kite man to cuck man jesus christ how depressing

>>95153764
I'm worse, through IAMGOTHAM I defended the dude from Snyderfags (the worse kind, the Scott Snyderfags) on here. And all the way up to the end of IAS too. Even past the self-harm bit.

But it's just very bad. In rooftops batman got his throat slashed and was completely fine. robins fight off page, get roasted off page, hanged off page, remain hanging on page, heal off page. batman consistently gets his ass kicked BY FUCKING BANE for two arcs surrounding the throat slashing and then finished FUCKING BANE with a headbutt. Another shart of a finish.

I would love more of the button type shit (not necessarily a tie-in jernt just the type of story) or the Swampy issue. The fucking elmer fudd was good too.

I just don't understand why every writer has to try to do some cryptic "I'm changing it all and making my mark" type shit. Just watch TAS, read some Alan Grant Denny or O'niel and write fucking batman. Stop trying to be Frank Miller(aside from year one). Stop trying to be Alan Moore. Bat writers need to enjoy those type of writers' work (at most) and then fucking forget it.

>>95140908
One nothing wrong with me!

>>95140924
Two nothing wrong with me

>>95140956
Somethings gotta give

>>95140962
Somethings gotta give!

>>95140972
Now!

>>95140980
Let the bodies hit the floor!

>>95153896

Agreed.

Bane arc is where he lost me though. Im a fan of Dixon's Bane, so you can imagine how hard i cringed.

I did enjoy swamp and fudd, and kind of OK with the Batman / Shadow story. Liked The Button (though lack of Wally was annoying) But really disappointed with current Batman comics.

So im just re reading old trades like Grant , Dixon, and even Morrison Batman and Robin.

>>95142250
Promise? I wish you were. I'm so tired of seeing you and the other angsty sad sacks complain about every issue.

>>95154415
Have you seen the preview for the Marini book? Think it's called dark prince charming. 20 page preview just came out and it's some clean ass batman being batman. I've been hyped on it for a few months now.

>>95155926
Not him But the book looks really good

>>95141059
He's going to betray Riddler somehow, that's why the Riddler says to Bane, "Tell Batman he and I both know he deserves this after the War of Jokes and Riddles".

>>95153903
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>>95153980
>>95154011
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>>95154070
Nice.

>>95155926

I just did, thank you!! Looks great!

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>>95156431
can't wait for that shit man. proper bats.

>>95140808

it's fat batman

>>95140817
Full on tumblr nose in a big 2 comic book? WTF?

>>95148543
So this is who scarred Harvey in nu52?
>>95152235
What's Cluemaster's Code? I don't recall it from the 90s comics I read him in.

Jesus, let Kite-Man be happy

>>95145361
>Having bruce actually be a self-harmer is a bad idea.
why?

>>95140808
Hell Yeah!

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>>95140956
I honestly kek'd

>>95147995
you do know that kites are tools of war and drug dealing since forever right

Honestly, King's writing is very weird. Sometimes it comes off as pretentious and really up it's own ass, and other times it works out and makes a comic seem unique. I'd say this was a cool issue, but I honestly can't say I don't see why people would call him a hack. He really does love writing everyone severely out of character. It's like this is the King-verse. And GODDAMN does he like repeating himself like it was deep.

>>95159877

maybe writing batman just doesn't suit him

>>95140924
What am I missing here?

>>95161834
Charlie Brown kicking the football.

>>95140956
I'm surprised he didn't use Charlie Brown kicking the football instead.

>>95142395
>the fuck you looking at?

I'm calling it.

Batman's going to put on the Kite-Man suit and beat up every one of Riddler's men.

>>95159877
>. He really does love writing everyone severely out of character.
who?

>>95159877
If you search your feelings you'll realize that it doesn't work at all even in the so called good stuff.

>>95146653
Actually I think King's run has been largely boring, at least the arcs, the standalone issues have been fine.

However just because I'm not a fan of King's Batman doesn't mean I dislike how he's done Kiteman.

>>95146653
Actually I think King's run has been largely boring, at least the arcs, the standalone issues have been fine.

However just because I'm not a fan of King's Batman doesn't mean I dislike how he's done Kiteman.

>>95140980
>tfw people don't notice Batman moving closer and closer to Riddler

On one hand, King sure knows how to craft a compelling story...but on the other hand, I really don't recognize this Batman at all. I want to like it, but I don't know...he just feels so useless...and so detached. Like in the rare moments he actually shows emotion it just doesn't feel genuine to me. This isn't Bruce Wayne. And this isn't Edward Nigma, either.

Kite Man's pathos feels more genuine. Maybe he King should just write a Kite Man book.

>>95143352
He used his scarface persona using a hand puppet during I am suicide.

>>95140924
hey, mr. miracle was pretty good though

>>95159349
>Full on tumblr nose in a big 2 comic book? WTF?
Where have you been for the past 5 years?

>>95159487
because it's never been touched on and it takes away the significance of "batman is his form of self harm" which was being used there. King does that a lot, sets up an interesting parallel and then beats you over the skull with it. Much like the issue where it's bane and bruce and it shows how they're the same.

That's always been the parallel he just beat the casuals over the head with it.

Having batman self harm as a child, and then implying that being Batman is the continuation of that doesn't work since Bruce never would have stopped self harming in such an obvious way. And if he HAD miraculously decided to channel that self-harm into being batman there is no way Alfred could allow a child who's admittedly attempting suicide to become a vigilante expressly to get to that end. It makes alfred worse than he's ever been in that he's not just allowing bruce to become batman he's allowing him to do it with the knowledge that he's a self-harmer and that's his way of harming himself.

Like I said, it's a good parallel, and one I don't think I've ever read being looked into too explicitly in a main book but making it so he's ACTUALLY slit his wrists before colors Alfred as incredibly terrible person to allow any of it to continue.

It takes the good idea and, like King is always want to do, beats you over the head with it until it's stupid.

>>95164011
Because he lost his puppet here. That's why he's, in some ways, almost getting to a point of accepting that fact.

Him referring to it as a puppet here is really dumb.

>>95166193
If you like watching your heroes bleed out from their wrists maybe. Otherwise just more of the same repetitive pretentious garbage.

>>95163865
I agree

But his Joker is great. Best Joker in years.