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JUST
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>>95123795

They released a network television pilot in theaters. Like when Lucas decided the Clone Wars needed a theatrical debut before airing on Cartoon Network. It was similarly panned.
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>>95123795
>almost as bad as BvS
wow
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>>95123830
Obsessed
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Why are the Marvel movies generally decent but the shows are awful while DC movies are generally terrible while their shows are generally decent?
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>>95123863
But anon, how else will we be able to feel superior to the competition without admitting to the problem?
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>>95123884
The universe is balancing itself out
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>>95123884
>Why are the Marvel movies generally decent but the shows are awful
Until Iron Fist, all of Marvel's shows were well received critically.
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>>95123906
Guess who's the director for both these monumental failures? Scott motherfuckin Buck. The guy that destroyed Dexter.
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>>95123906
>Until Iron Fist, all of Marvel's shows were well received critically.

True. IF was really terrible, but it got such abysmal scores for the same reason LC,JJ and WW all got great scores.
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>>95123884
>DC movies
>generally terrible

Why do people forget that DC has had decades of decent movies before the DCEU started?
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>>95123884
All Marvel's shows save Inhumans are decent to good, with Daredevil absolutely blowing everything DCTV related out of the water. Yeah, even Iron Fist - it's not great, but it's decent, and its low score has more to do with the white protagonist than the actual quality of the show.

Inhumans is the first truly bad Marvel show, and it's not even a real Marvel product, just a Perlmutter spite project. It's literally scrapped together from what Ike could save up. The vast majority of Marvel fans WANT this to fail so that the retarded Inhumants push will fail and Ike will get his ass humiliated.
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>>95123952
1 or 2 movies per decade compared to 5-6 terrible ones is not a good score
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>>95123820
>one of the best pieces of star wars media in years
>terrible reviews
why are movie critics so bad?
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>>95123980
The Clone Wars movie was awful though.

The series was alright.
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I can't stop laughing at this whole situation

>>95123980
Did you actually see The Clone Wars movie? It was terrible. TCW as a whole didn't get it's legs until halfway through season 2
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>>95123952
>has had decades of decent movies
Only Batman and 2 Superman movies though.
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>>95123998
Not even, it was around season 4
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>>95123895
You think Marvel fans think this is a problem? They've had their fingers crossed for Inhumans to fail since day one of its production. They are far happier than you are about this.
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>>95123980

Because Lucas, after seeing the first 3 episodes of the Clone Wars cartoon, felt that it would be a good idea to release it in theaters.

But the truth is that TV network budgets and the TV show format don't really allow you to create work that really competes with actual movies in the theater. So it ended up with rotten reviews.

But then they aired it on TV, and compared to other animated shows on TV, it has nice animation, decent writing, and tackles much weightier materials with ongoing stories and multi-part episodes. So when you go the RT tv reviews, it's actually at 89%.

The standards of movies and tv shows are very different. Which is why people trying to compare old WB/MGM/Disney shorts (originally theatrical releases) to TV cartoons are fucking retarded.
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>>95123918
I remember how I felt joy that the Twilight bitch who made season 5 left the showrunner position. In retrospect, season 5 wasn't the worst-case scenario and it was still pretty bad.
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>>95123980
Did you even see it? Awful movie
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>>95123980
they get paid to be right. You get salty when youre not. thats why
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>>95123970
>>95124015
Holy fucking underage.
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>all this marlel damage control
Top kek lads
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>>95123906
Agents of Shield....Agent Carter....well received?
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>>95123795
>11 reviews
>11 rotten
>no consensus yet
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>>95124359
It's shit. Get over it.
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WILL IGER FINALLY FORCE OUT IKE?!
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>>95124119
I don't like either of them, but yes, they are well received. AoS has been extremely successful and Carter is mostly praised by reviewers.
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>>95123795
It'll be funny ifDCEU fans try to point to this when getting into arguments about quality in the MCU, except...literally nobody cares.

I think even the biggest MCU fanboys have no interest in this and never did. The warning signs were there all along and it may as well be non-canon.
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>>95124603
You don't understand, anon. If you point out that Marvel fans actively wanted this to fail, that's 'damage control'.

DCucks can't comprehend the idea of fans not slavishly sucking the dick of every piece of media a company produces, no matter how shit it looks. BvS should have made this abundantly clear by now.
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>>95123795
Well, when the first episode gave me jump-scares from the sudden transitions and they take forever and a day to get around to get to something interesting, I don't feel compelled to continue, either. I'd rather watch Legends of Tomorrow.
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>>95124648
Agent Carter
>8/10 IMDb
>88% fresh RT

Agents of Shield
>7.5/10 IMDb
>93% fresh RT

So yeah, both were well received. Not personally liking these shows won't change reality.
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>>95124730
>IMDb
>RT
I can smell your desperation, shill.
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>>95123985
people seem to forget it was horrible until season 3 when I guess they changed writers or something
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>>95124119
Agents of Shield is great. It's an ancient meme that it's bad.
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>>95124755
>he says while posting in a thread mocking another shows RT score
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>>95124755
I suppose your annecdotal evidence is more valid than these objective aggregate scores?
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>>95123918
I will never understand how anyone could hire this guy after dexter finale
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>Kirby died for this
Happy 100th, Jack!
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>>95123884
Iron Fist was the only of Marvel's Netflix series that didn't get fucktons of critical praise, and even though I'm not a fan of the ABC series so far, AoS and Agent Carter were both well received. Inhumans and Iron Fist are the outliers here.

To answer your question about the DC shows, they are successful because they know the audience they're pandering to, which is your average CW viewer. All of their TV shows so far have been Dawson's Creek with some shitty superhero costumes thrown in, and that's what their viewers want so it works. Their movies have been largely flops because they keep trying to appeal to 2deep kinofags, but the people who want that from their films don't like capeshit, and the people who like capeshit don't want 3+ hours of biblical references and poorly written dialogue. This is why Wonder Woman was their most successful film so far, it had a good ratio of action to other stuff (even though the third act was a mess visually) and it wasn't so afraid to be a movie about superhero shit, even though at its core it was a war movie. Well, that and it had Chris Pine carrying it which didn't hurt.
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>>95123884
>DC movies are generally terrible
What's with this meme?
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>>95125082
>Their movies have been largely flops
Not a single DCEU film has flopped financially.
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>>95125113
underageb& who think capeshit started with the MCU
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>>95123795
>ctrl f "DC"
>10 results
Never change /co/rvel, you'll save the corpse of a company that is Marvel if you compare them to superior companies enough
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>>95124755
>post RT score to prove a company is doing badly
>BUT ackshally RT is bad and wrong and irrelevant

If Yahweh or Shiva or whoever killed off all company loyalists in a targeted pic related, the world would be a genuinely better place.
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>>95124667
>DCucks
Ban incoming.
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>>95125156
Well I was referring to critical/audience reception, not financial success, but the DCEU so far has had a lot of financial disappointment for WB and that's no secret. MoS and BvS didn't make anywhere near what WB wanted them to based on how much money they poured into them. If their strategy so far had been raking in profits, they wouldn't be panicking so much every time one of their turds comes out and doing shit like hiring other directors to overhaul their films after they've finished shooting.
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>>95125156
Retards now use "flop" to mean "people didn't like it." SS was terribly reviewed even though it made a lot of money. BvS and MoS were middling at best. WW did fantastic in reviews though.
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>>95125327
>the DCEU so far has had a lot of financial disappointment for WB and that's no secret
You literally just made this up. The only financially disappointing movie was BvS and that didn't flop either, they just were expecting to outgross Force Awakens or some shit

Suicide Squad made more than Winter Soldier without being released in China, with the same budget i.e.
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>>95124943
Not one of Kirby's better creations if we're being honest. Now if this was New Gods, then yeah Id be upset
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>>95123795
PUT INHUMANS INTO PIECES
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>>95124836
It's an even ancienter meme that it got better
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>>95124943
Inhumans were abandoned by Kirby himself
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>>95125389

People forget this kind of shit when talking about movies. They cry and belly ache about bad movies getting made and how the industry is failing.

But the "shit" is making money over the "kino". Audiences are choosing shit. It's making money and keeping Hollywood going where "kino" isnt.
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>>95125465
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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>>95125608
RETARDATION, NO BUDGET,
DON'T GIVE A FUCK, IF MY MOVIE FLOPS
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>>95123900
>>Trump gets elected
>>Good Sonic game comes out

Fair enough I guess
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>>95125718
...you realize none of those words rhyme, right?
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>>95124913
B-b-but season 7 was good!
I hate this meme. All interesting ideas either go fucking nowhere or receive the least satisfying resolution possible, the only enjoyable character in the whole season dies like a bitch while Buck's waifu keeps being forced (if you're gonna tell me that it's okay because the actress is hot, go watch Chuck and shut up), that shitty Doakes retcon that makes Dexter look like a retard and takes away Doakes being a good detective because the only reason he's suspicious of Dexter is the latter's retardation, rather than the former's intelligence and intuition.
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>>95124943
Kirby created the Inhumans because Stan wanted some third group of superhumans that weren't regular humans or mutants. They never quite made sense. Even their introduction is incoherent, with the Inhuman royals hiding from the Seeker who wants to take them back to Attilan, from whom they flee... to Attilan. And then Black Bolt just yanks the crown off of Maximus's head. Why did they ever bother hiding?
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>>95125815
I'm not a poet
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>>95125483
This.
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>>95124667
>W-we wanted Inhumans to fail!
>A-also Iron fist! We wanted it to fail too!
>We wanted Luke Cage to fail after Cottonmouth!
>We're glad Age of Ultron sucked!
>We hate Thor! We love how his movies are bad even though we really want this one to suceed but if it fail then we actually wanted to fail

Pathetic
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It's gonna change; There's already people saying it's actually great and how critics are dumb and the public will love it.

I kinda knew this was gonna happen. you alway sget contrarians who like a thing because the general consensus is that it sucks.
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>>95125899
Disney shills aren't people.
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>>95125899
>it's actually great and critics are dumb
>the public will love it.
>I kinda knew this was gonna happen, you always get contrarians who like a thing because the general consensus is that it sucks.

MoS and BvS all over again, MCUcks are the new DCucks, and I'm not even a capeshit fan.
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>>95125899

After episodes air on tv and it gets to be seen and judged as an actual tv series instead of several tv show episodes edited together into a movie, yes it will defiantly get a higher rating.
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Has Ike ever done something positive for Marvel?
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>>95125173
Good capeshit did start with the avengers though
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>>95126100
Nah good capeshit started 34 years before that.
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>>95124830
Bullshit, half of Season 2 was great, the fucking Geonosis arc was in Season 2 for god's sake. Season 1 even had a few really good episodes.

Season 1 was mostly shit with some good, and Season 2 was pretty even, Season 3 was mostly good, and 4+ was outstanding.

And it wasn't new writers, it was a mixture of the writers getting more comfortable with what they were doing, as well as both George and the writers getting a lot bolder with what they could get away with on CN. The types of subjects they could handle, how adult the writing could be, that sort of thing.
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>>95125892
Go post in your /DCHADSONLY/ thread on /tv/ Pajeet.
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>>95126068
No, but he has done very well for himself
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>>95126212
Im 30. This movie is dated as fuck. Its considered a "classic" for a reason, but no one can call it timeless. Im pretty sure when people talk about cape shit movies generally theyre reffering to the recent trend. By bringing up this old shit and calling people underage, your being facetious.
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>>95126600
His point still stands that good capeshit started there.

In 30 years Avengers is gonna be just as dated as Superman is today, if not more. Desn't change the impact it had when it came out.

You can't take away the achievement of ssomething just because it's old
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>>95126600
I first saw it in ~2010/11 at the age of 22. It's absolutely timeless.

Reeves is fucking perfect, the themes are on point, and they nail the Superman/Clark character. Sure, the effects are dated, but so what?
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>>95123795
>3.6
Jesus!
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>>95126639
Avengers will always be seen as a turning point, just like I think TDK will and Raimi Spider-man was before it. But I can't see any of those holding up as well as Reeves Superman has.
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>>95126660
Them holding up, and them starting something when they came out are too different and unrelated things though. The impact now is not dependent on how cool your grand children will think it is.
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>>95126696
Sure ... but what's your point?
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>>95123820
That's because it was just a couple of episodes slapped together and they had no experience with a tv show or animation before. Marvel on the other hand have had plenty of experience with making tv shows.
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>>95126639
In 30 years from now, Avengers are going to be seen as cringe garbage it always was, and be something of a laughing stock with "how many heroes you can squeeze on screen" tropes
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>>95123795
I feel bad for the actors
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>>95127620
Yeah Serinda shaved her hair just to ruin her career.
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>>95126525
Yup.
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>>95127822
>An immigrant war veteran that lived off selling toys is in charge of Marvel.
Let him take care of the security or the toy sales, get him away of everything else.
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>>95127747
>implying it isn't cancer
>caused by all this awfulness
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>>95127822
Maybe someone should realize that he has good macro ideas but doesn't know shit about anything creative.
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>>95125892
The resounding consensus to the Inhumans since 2012 for most Marvel fans has always been "Fuck 'em".
People have hated them for a long time now
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>>95127884
And this is why we should build the wall.
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>>95124830
But that's bullshit, the Genosis arc was early in the show and remained one of the best of the series by the finale. Also Georgie juiced up his influence with what the writers were allowed to do.
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>>95123795
ITS FAKE REVIEW IT ALL FAKE REVIEWS!!!!!!
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>>95124079
Oh what, Swamp Thing? Steel? Supergirl? Catwoman? Jonah Hex? Superman 3 and 4?
Retard.
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>>95128157
But most Marvel fans are more than glad this shit bombed.

Why you keep trying to make them look bad, shitposter-kun?
The show doesn't need that to look bad.
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Inb4 Armin defends this and blames Fox
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>>95125821
What was the Doakes retcon?
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>>95128041
Israel already has walls. How do you think they keep mudslimes out?
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>>95128384
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>>95128408
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>>95123980
It was the first three episodes, which by comparison to the good stuff, is rightfully panned.
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>>95128428
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>>95128456
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>>95128456
>Delisle visits another tyrannical regime
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>>95128481
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>>95128518
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>>95128384
I heard that thousands of palestinians still work on israel illegally to the point that Palestine ecnomy would colpase and israel face a decline if Jews stopped hiring them.

Kinda like US-Mexico relations
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>>95128546
>>95128483
I've just realize all his travelogues are about that huh? Best Korea, China, Burma, and this.
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>>95125608
I am the rocks of the Eternal Shore. Crash against me and be broken!
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>>95128580
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>>95128607
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>>95123906
JJ and LC were coasting on the Daredevil wave. In a vacuum, they wouldn't have been received nearly as well. It took a truly horrendous show like IF to finally convince people that not all Netflix Marvel is gold.
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>>95128627
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>>95128638
JJ was at least as good as DD, though.

First half of LC is the best part of Netflix Marvel yet.
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>>95128654
And now, you may resume your regularly schedule shitposting.
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>>95128638
Even defenders got a really mediocre score for a tv show
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>>95128583
Those pipes will never stop looking retarded.
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>>95128674
>JJ was at least as good as DD
lol
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>>95128712
Solid discussion. Thanks for chiming in.
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>>95128674
The usual Jessica Jones episode:
>Jessica drinking
>Jessica having a hangover
>the annoying neighbors being annoying
>the junkie neighbor being a junkie
>Killgrave being the baddie in the shadows
>Luke Cage being very disquietingly erotic
>JJ's irritating friend being irritating
>Carrie Ann Moss making butchy dyke faces
>rinse and repeat
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/abcs-marvel-drama-inhumans-underwhelms-imax-bow-1034545

>ABC's Marvel Drama 'Inhumans' Underwhelms in Imax Bow

>ABC and Marvel Television's forthcoming drama series Inhumans certainly didn't boast a heroic start in its exclusive theatrical run over Labor Day weekend several weeks ahead of its television premiere.

>The straight-to-series is produced in partnership with Imax and, in a groundbreaking deal, launched this weekend in 676 Imax theaters around the globe, grossing an estimated $2.6 million. That included an underwhelming $1.5 million from 393 theaters in North America. (To be clear, Inhumans is a Marvel TV show and is not connected to Marvel Studios, home of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.)

>Adding slightly more salt to the Inhumans wound, the comic book drama was beat by a special 40th anniversary release of Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which earned $2.6 million from 901 locations.
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>>95128956
>On paper, the idea of using a theatrical release to cut through the cluttered fall TV landscape is smart and bold. In reality, it didn't work for Inhumans, which stars Anson Mount and Serinda Swan. The exclusive viewing opened on par with a special digitally remastered theatrical viewing of Game of Thrones in February 2015, even though those episodes of the HBO fantasy drama had already aired. (The Imax release also came with an early look at next season's trailer as a special incentive.)

>"This is a pretty ho-hum result," says box office analyst Jeff Bock of Exhibitor Relations. "I just don't think the average moviegoer knew what this was, and if they did, they certainly didn't know it was debuting in theaters before its TV debut."

>The first two episodes were shot partially with Imax cameras and featured special scenes designed just for the 75-minute release. Imax was to benefit from the end-of-summer doldrums by delivering a Marvel-branded drama to fanboys who fuel Marvel Cinematic Universe releases, including this summer's Spider-Man: Homecoming.

>Early buzz for Inhumans did not help the show about the royal family, including Black Bolt (Mount), the enigmatic, commanding king of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that his slightest whisper can destroy a city. (The show also features a 2,000-pound CGI dog named Lockjaw, pictured above.)
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>>95128983
>Sources tell THR that the eight-episode series was produced over three months in Hawaii and underwent a number of reshoots. Among them was an estimated $100,000 to fix the visual effects for the wig worn by Swan's Medusa, who has the ability to move and control her hair the way most people use their hands and fingers. (Feature director Roel Reine, who helmed both Imax episodes, noted that the first trailer for Inhumans may have been released too early, as it featured unfinished VFX, including Medusa's hair.) Meanwhile, some insiders say Lockjaw eventually disappears from the story because the production couldn't afford the continued cost to deliver the huge canine.

>The Imax debut doesn't exactly offer a promising linear debut for the Inhumans when it premieres Sept. 29 on ABC as part of the network's new Friday lineup. (Marvel veteran Agents of SHIELD will move from its Tuesday home and take over the Friday 8 p.m. slot once Inhumans wraps its run.)

>As for Inhumans' ABC debut, the first two episodes will be expanded and feature an 84-minute run time as a way to offer something new for diehard Marvel fans who saw it in theaters. Sources note that Imax paid to produce the first two episodes of Inhumans, which likely offset at least some of the costs.

>Inhumans will launch with low expectations given its home on Fridays, though ABC is optimistic that loyal Marvel viewers will make the freshman drama a DVR hit the way Agents of SHIELD has remained a sturdy performer when factoring in delayed viewing. Agents of SHIELD, which like Inhumans is produced by Marvel and ABC Studios, underwent budget cuts and a licensing fee reduction in a bid to reduce costs. Season four averaged a 1.7 among adults 18-49 with seven days of DVR and 4.6 million total viewers.
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>>95129001
>"Marvel understands just as well as we do how loyal that SHIELD and the Marvel audience is," says Andy Kubitz, executive vp program planning and scheduling at ABC. "For the ability to move a show from one day to another, we have more confidence that that core audience — those very faithful watchers of Marvel product — will travel with it. The great thing about Friday night for these shows is it gives three days of downtime for a lot of these younger viewers to be able to catch up on it. You've got Saturday and Sunday viewing that will be able to be counted into our C3 to help us monetize it."

>Inhumans is one of multiple new Marvel series coming to the small screen. Next up is Fox's X-Men take The Gifted (Oct. 2), followed by Hulu's adaptation of Runaways (Nov. 21). Still to be scheduled are Freeform drama Cloak and Dagger and comedy New Warriors (both expected in 2018) and FX's animated Deadpool. The comic book powerhouse's TV slate also includes Netflix dramas Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders and The Punisher, as well as FX's Legion.
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>>95128956
>Inhumans is a Marvel TV show and is not connected to Marvel Studios, home of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies
Wrong.
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>>95129074
No its not
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>>95125892
>implying Iron Fist and Luke Cage failed

lel, companyfags are delusional.
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>>95129147
>>95129148
Companyfags are delusional indeed.
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>>95129203
You're an idiot if you think Marvel TV is connected to Marvel Studios.
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>>95129235
>Nick Fury appears in the AoS pilot.webm
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>>95129250
No he doesn't, even if he did it's still two different companies that answer to two different people.
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>>95123884
>MCU shows are awful
>DC shows are generally decent
Neither of these statements are correct. Iron Fist and Inhumans are the exception, not the rule. Flash and Arrow are garbage and you know it, they should've ended at their height
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>>95129250
Also Peggy Carter's show for fuck's sake.
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>>95129282
Both answer to Disney
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>>95129203
I agree, you are pretty delusional.
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>>95129312
Arrow is kino. Get your shit taste out of here bub.
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>>95124830
>>95126318
Plus Season 3 had a boost in its animation budget which put it as close to cinematic quality as you can get on television.
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>>95128191
becuse i want miss marvel to be in the mcu
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>>95129325
TV answers to Ike Perlmutter, Studios answers to Disney. I'm done with your bait.
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>DCfags: OOOO LOOK HOW BAD THIS IS
>Marvelfags: Yeah we already knew, hopefully now Perlmutter's retarded Inhumants push can die
>DCfags: d-d-d-d-damage c-control! shills! uhggh uh marlel!

This thread is hilarious.

I know we shouldn't appease the /tv/ crossboarders, really, but I'm glad they're capable of amusing on occasion.
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>>95129282
>No he doesn't,
Nice denial, bro.
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>>95129377
>Marvelfags: Yeah we already knew
Then why are you always shilling all those crap movies?
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>>95129413
>shill shill shill uhhh um mo-mmm-movies righht shilllll

KEEP GOING.
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>>95129235
I think they got pretty disjointed when Feige got control of Marvel Studios. I suspect only AoS gets to be anywhere near what the movies are doing, and only by name dropping every now and then.
Given Perlmutter's history of flying off the handle with X-Men because of Fox, I would hazard a guess he's been further meddling with the Netflix shows and apparently games out of spite.
How the guy hasn't had a stroke or heart attack by now if he's such an insufferable asshole is quite a mystery.
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>>95129339
>Olicity
>Canning Roy Harper
>Making Malcolm Merlin a joke
>Ray "Discount Iron Man" Palmer
>Kino
You're pushing it
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>>95129413
Because the movies are good.

You realize people are allowed the like some things a company makes, and dislike other things, right? You're not obligated to tongue the ass of everything a company puts out simply because it's made other things you like.
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>>95123970
>>95128184
Fucking idiot
>Batman:the movie
>Superman
>Superman 2
>Batman
>Batman returns
>Batman Begins
>Superman returns
>watchmen
>The dark knight
>the Dak knight Rises
> lego Batman
>Wonder Woman
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>>95129436
Are you OK?

>>95129467
>>95129458
I see you aren't.
>>95129467
>You're not obligated to tongue the ass of everything a company puts out
Then stop doing that, anon. It's no use.
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>>95129339
Every season after the second is complete horseshit.

First two season were fun though, and about half of the S1 episodes of Flah were good too.
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>>95123795
Good.

Now Marvel needs to stop treating X-Men like shit, stop pushing Shithumans, and issue a public apology to all X-Fans.
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>>95129490
I didn't make >>95129467 comment, dumbass. Don't lump me in with that
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>>95129458
>Olicity
As long as they put it to the side like s5 I don't mind
>Canning Roy Harper
Yeah that's some bs
>Making Malcolm Merlin a joke
That was bs too. At least he isn't coming back
>Ray "Discount Iron Man" Palmer
Ray is a gaylord
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>>95129467
>Suicide Squad sucked
>DCfags:oh wow that sucked
>Marvelfags: woooooooow DC is done RIP, MARVEL MAKE NO MISTAKES hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

>Inhumans sucked:
>Marvelfags:wow we wanted it to suck ahhahahahahahahahahahaha

lmao
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>>95129490
>marvelfags knew something was going to be shit and don't like it
>k-k-kkeeep too-oo-o-onging all m-marlel s-sshit m-marlels! kek!
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>>95129499
I liked s5
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>>95129458
>>95129518
>hates Arrow but watches it religiously
Hmmm...
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>>95129519
>as long as they put it to the side
WHEN WILL YOU STOCKHOLM SYNDROME BITCHES REALIZE YOU'RE BEING HAD? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH
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>>95129530
THIS
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>>95129550
>>95129535
Meltdowning.
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>>95129547
You'd have a point if I didn't stop watching it. I appreciate the earlier seasons, but that doesn't change the fact that the show, as a whole, is shit, which is to be expected of a CW show
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>>95129530
>I appreciate the earlier seasons, but that doesn't change the fact that the show, as a whole, is shit
Just like Luke Cage,Jessica, defenders and Daredevil

Iron fist was shit from the fist episode
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>>95129550
S5 was the payoff for all the beatings
>>
Rewatching the beginning of Arrow actually made me appreciate the netflix stuff much more.

Even at their worst, Daredevil and Luke Cage are still better than the golden age of Arrow.
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>>95123952
>Implying the Dark Knight Trilogy was good
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>>95129393
He doesn't, he appears in episode 2 and the finale. Fucking idiot
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>>95129640
Who are you talking too? This isn't a arrow thread. Arrow was rough at first but s2 is close with DD S1
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>>95129657
>being this edgy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Pvi1XVm_s
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>>95128956
>Adding slightly more salt to the Inhumans wound, the comic book drama was beat by a special 40th anniversary release of Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which earned $2.6 million from 901 locations
Kind of a dumb comparison. Close Encounters is a classic; Inhumans is a TV show. Both are gimmick event releases, but they're totally different markets. Besides, Inhumans earned more per screen.

Doesn't mean it didn't fail, but it's a dumb point to make.
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>>95129530
This, faggots were sucking Marvel/Disney balls a couple of minutes ago, now that Iron Fist sucked,Inhumans is a disaster and Wonder Woman buttfucked all their movies this year they're trying to act like they were never ducksuckers.
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>>95129667
As if that changes his point?

Marvel TV is objectively in the MCU.

>Fury
>Peggy
>Maria Hill
>Howard Stark
>Coulson
>Sitwell
>Dum Dum

The only thing people point to that shows otherwise is Whedon's out of context statements.
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>>95129778
>This, faggots were sucking Marvel/Disney balls a couple of minutes ago

You can like things by a company without liking everything. A hopeless Snydershill like yourself may not understand this, but this is how normal people operate.

>Inhumans is a disaster

Everyone knew it was a disaster and wanted it to be. You have to be extremely new to /co/ not to know about its hatred of Perlmutter and everything he touches.

>Wonder Woman buttfucked all their movies

Still hasn't made more than GotG and Homecoming is about to burst past it. It's an alright film, but jeez, show some class when you shill for your WB overlords.
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>>95126600
>Im 30
>spelling all these words wrong
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>>95128334
Under8d post
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>>95129778
>Wonder Woman buttfucked all their movies this year
>us vs them
Here's a secret:

I liked Wonder Woman, Spider-man, AND Guardians.

Crazy, right?
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>>95129857
please grow up, really none of this fucking matters you psychopathic autist.

Jesus, just like what you like and disregard naysayers if it bothers you so much
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>>95129282
He appears multiple times throughout the show.
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>>95129857
SEETHING
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>>95126600
the only thing thats actually bad about the film is the actress playing Lois is abysmal, otherwise its very solidly made, and while not a perfect adaptation its a fuck ton better then most superhero films
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>>95129923
>I liked Spider-man, AND Guardians.
My condolences.
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>my visage at this moment

X-Men so stronk even RL Mossad can't defeat them.

God I wish we had Ike's reaction to this. Supposedly he believed so hard in this he pooled quite a bit of his own money into the project to get it up and running.

Do we have an image of laughing Feige to put next to that one mildly disconcerted picture of Perlmutter that exists?
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>>95123795
>11 reviews
>all rotton.
Anybody wanna post any?
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>>95129790
What the fuck? I wasn't arguing if it was canon or not
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>>95126600
That says more about you than it does the film
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>>95130117
Fair enough ... downside of anonymous conversations; never know who is who.
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>>95130117
>>95129235
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>>95130218
Again, I'm not arguing whether it's canon. The company Marvel TV has nothing to do with the company Marvel Studios.
>>
>>95123795

Is Marvel going to be the first company to relaunch a TV show
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>>95130400
>first company to relaunch a tv show
>first
what did he mean by this?
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>>95130344
>I'm not arguing whether it's canon
Yeah, whatever.
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>>95130508
>canonfags are so sensitive they think everything is about them
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>>95130520
>implying I watch TV shows and movies I don't like
I'm not you, anon.
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>>95129857
>gets caught out
>y-you're just a snydershill
Like clockwork.
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>>95123795
I kinda wish this did good because Black Bolt is cool.
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I feel bad for the actors. The girl playing Crystal was cute, but fuck Perlmutter I'm happy this is bombing hard.
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>>95129790
>The only thing people point to that shows otherwise is Whedon's out of context statements.

also Mackie's statement: http://www.cbr.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-tv-crossover-anthony-mackie/

though that doesn't mean that the TV shows aren't canon to MCU, just that they aren't going to be affecting the movies.
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>>95133689
>actor's statement
As if that matters at all. But as you said, even then he doesn't say that it's not canon.
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>it's a canon debate episode
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>>95123795
X-Men and the mutants died for this. Marvel should make a public apology for all the fucks up in their comic books line.
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>>95123795
It will still be better than Wonder Woman.
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>>95135152
Fuck off Snyderfag, WW is the only saving grace the DCEU has
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