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Nazi Supergirl Confirmed

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FUCKING MADMEN

>Comics readers will remember The Ray—who can generate and manipulate light and turn into a powerful energy form—from his 1970s debut as a member of the Freedom Fighters, heroes of Earth-X, a parallel world where the Nazis won World War II. This animated version also takes its inspiration from Grant Morrison’s popular The Multiversity series (the seventh issue of which featured a reimagined Freedom Fighters). And while the show is focused on The Ray, his teammates will appear too. “It’s called Freedom Fighters: The Ray for a very specific reason,” Guggenheim explains, “which is we knew we wanted to establish the Freedom Fighters and Earth-X. In Multiversity, Grant Morrison came up with an idea we really responded to: The Freedom Fighters are made up of various minorities targeted by Nazis—women, gay men, Jews. We wanted to honor that idea. At the same time, it’s an origin story about the Earth-1 iteration of The Ray.”

>Some familiar voices will be dropping by, like Supergirl’s Melissa Benoist as Overgirl, the Earth-X version of the Girl of Steel. “Melissa is so sweet, and so is her interpretation of Supergirl,” Guggenheim says. “It was fun to hear her voice records and see she’s capable of a darkness. I think she really enjoyed playing the bad guy for a bit!” Other supervillains The Ray will take on include evil Nazi counterparts of The Flash and Green Arrow.

https://www.tvinsider.com/274478/freedom-fighters-the-ray-cw-seed/
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>Melissa Benoist
D R O P P E D
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Pretty sure she was in the trailer, so no surprise there.
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>>95020832
Who the fuck else would play her in a CW production, you idiot?
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Tripling down on the diversity crap I see
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>tfw Earth-X and the Freedom Fighters finally start to climb in popularity

And all you needed was the rise of white supremacy in the united states!
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>>95020890
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>95020919
He's misapplying a complaint. Sometimes diversity is shoved in for brownie points, but he assumes this is one of those times when it's not. It has artistic purpose here (and in Multiversity).

Basically, fucking casuals need to shut the fuck up.
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>>95020780
>Overgirl
>bad guy
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>>95020890
>Story about minorities in a Nazi-occupied world
>"What is this SJW shit?"

For people who mock tumblr so much, /pol/fags sure are triggered.
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>>95020780
Overgirl and Overman are not evil. Fuck these simpletons.
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>>95020919
>>95021165

Quit biting.
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>Earth-X Superfamily
>Evil
D R O P P E D
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So they're eager to incorporate the idea from Master Men that each Freedom Fighter represents a different group targeted by the Nazis.

But they're completely ignoring most other themes from Master Men, like how it's unfair to blame young people for benefiting from atrocities committed by their ancestors before they were even born.

In other words, there's parts of Master Men they like and parts they don't like. All of the easy PC diversity with none of the hard questions.

I don't expect better from Hollywood. They always adapt stories selectively to push their preferred agenda, so I'm used to it. And I know these CW Seed cartoons have only a small amount of very short episodes, so there isn't a lot of time for nuance. But let's not pretend like we don't obviously know why some parts of Master Men are being directly adapted and other parts are not.
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>>95021319
>>95021382
They were just misunderstood heroes just like Harley Quinn
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>>95020780
Are you saying what I think you are today Ed...?
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>>95021396
You're giving Guggenheim too much credit. He is legitimately bad at comics and that meaning probably flew over his head.
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>>95021319
>>95021425
hahahaha, nice btfo
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>>95020780
>Melissa Benoist
>voice
>no suit
damn
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>>95021382
They actually weren't evil. In fact, i think the part where Overman comes back from deep space and finds out about the holocaust.

>"What the fuck did you DO?"
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Will we get this emblem in Injustice 2?
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>>95020832
>Melissa Benoist
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>>95021382
Hell Overman was so deeply affected by the horrors he allowed to go unanswered (the holocaust) that his guilt over it clouded his judgement and allowed the FF to get away with killing a shit ton of people that were only guilty of being the descendants of the men responsible for the holocaust.
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>>95021493
Sure is Antifa around here.
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>>95021621
Reading comic books is above /co/
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>>95021654
Sure is intoxicated and obedient like frigging always around here all of a right now.
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>>95021680
It's like saying most modern day Americans deserve to die for the horrors committed against native Americans by their ancestors.
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>>95021654
>sure is people who hate nazis in here
Geez, what a shocker
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>>95021691
So you cant be bother to read a comic book and suddenly you get all defensive when people call you out on your bullshit? Eat shit faggot.
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>>95021722
>I've never read the comics
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>>95021722
But thats not the point. Overman and family were not evil, period.
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>>95021712
Writers will make them evil. Because of political bullcrap. No respect for the source.
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>>95020832
That is some shit taste mate.
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>>95020780
But they entire point of Grant's New Earth-X was that Overman and Overgirl weren't evil and that Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters were bad guys supplied by the Sivanas of Many Worlds who were willing to murder everyone in Berlin just to spite the Nazi empire for crimes they committed centuries ago.

>>95021165
In the Multiversity issue the Freedom Fighters were evil terrorists.

>>95021567
>>95021621
>>95021773
Overman is one of the saddest characters Grant's ever created. I wish we got more of him and that Superman team from Final Crisis. They were all great and played off each other well.

Just add Superdemon and Sunshine Superman.
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Was the first season of the Ray even good?
In fact, was Vixen good?
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>>95021567
While overman was clearly feeling the guilt, the other members seemed to be fully into the cause.
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>>95022562
>>95021722
>>95021680
>>95021621
>>95021382
>>95020780
>All the nuance of Overman's character is stripped away so the writers can mindlessly feel good about punching Nazis in the face

Disgusting.
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>>95023416
>centuries

The whole take is about Superman landing in WWII germany. All the crimes aren't even 40 years old.

Of course the FF group is pissed while at the same time trying to save the few minorities left over from the genocides.
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>>95021747
You should consider that I'm not the guy you were referring to - off chance that you're a Trumploid.
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>>95023501
The other members we see are too young to have been involved in the holocaust, hell Batman even brings up the point that why should they be blamed for what their ancestors did?
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>>95023578
>The whole take is about Superman landing in WWII germany

And he's centuries old in the modern day of the story. Overman is agelessly immortal.
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>>95023578
Weren't they celebrating some kind of century thing in the Multiersity issue?

>Save a few minorities left over

They Char's Counter Attacked Berlin.
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>>95023631
>FF gonna push away a meteor with UNDERSTANDING magic
granted I'd pay good money to see that shit, but I don't think that's a marketable idea
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>>95023650
>FF gonna push away a meteor with UNDERSTANDING magic
But FF were the Chars of the story.
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>>95020780
It ain't anything new
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>>95021396
>like how it's unfair to blame young people for benefiting from atrocities committed by their ancestors before they were even born.
Whoa that is the exact opposite theme of Master Men. This is a wolrd that was born in evil and continues to support evil by continuing Hitler's vision. Overman may feel remorseful but that does not make him good.
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>>95023667

What
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>>95021773
>they're not evil!
Yes they are. They are tragic in that sense.
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>>95023665
>FF were the Chars
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>>95023614
Does the story take place in a fast forwarded time line? Or is it parallel to ours in 2010ish. Haven't read it since it came out.

If former than forget what I said
>>95023593
>>95023614
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>>95023667
>Politically Incorrect
Man that takes me the fuck back. Maher's HBO show just wasn't as good
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>>95023416
Just because he's tragic doesn't make him good. Overman contnues supporting a regime that he knowns committs horrible atrocities.
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Someone storytime the multiversity issue.
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>>95023593
Because they continue to support the same evil regime their grandfathers did.
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>>95022562
Outside of Overman and gang, all the NAZIS were cartoonish evily. Issue opens up with a hitler on a shitter joke and any time the world comes up it always has some nazi crazy trying to continue the opressing agenda.

And also was the world even in working order? I think America remained in shambles but I don't recall any mention of other places.
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>>95023519
They'll fuck it up or deliberately end up portraying Overman as more sympathetic than the terrorists, just like the Man in the High Castle.
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>>95023759
How can you call it evil when almost everyone except an extremely small minority is living happily? There aren't any concentration camps nor mass genocides taking place in the present because those were done generations ago. It's the equivalent of claiming that modern day US is evil because it was founded on the corpses of countless native americans that were trampled in the name of manifest destiny.
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>>95023702
That run of Supergirl went to some weird directions. As in "Supergirl is aliteral angel" tier directions

I liked it. It was storytimed somewhere around when /co/ was all about how good reviwal Samurai Jack was
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>>95023723
The stories is set in modern times, bot hundred of years into the future like anon is saying.
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>>95023586
The answer is still aplicable to your very ignorant persona. May I suggest you kill yourself?
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>>95021396
>like how it's unfair to blame young people for benefiting from atrocities committed by their ancestors before they were even born.

Except the CW show isn't using Morrison's peaceful Third Reicht utopia built through global genocide premise, or that Freedom Fighters are terrorists. It's just using the minority angle on the Freedom Fighters roster itself. Everything else is clearly based on the silver age Eath-X with Nazis still fighting for the control of America and trying to exterminate groups of people that the FF, the underground resistance movement, are visibly protecting in the trailer.
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>>95023830
Wasn't that supergirl also with a clone Lex Luthor?
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>>95023830
Well, I liked that elseworld Supergirl Wings so I might give this a try some time...
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>>95023670
No. Just no. Your approach is disgusting.

>>95023709
I guess so are all the americans.
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I had no idea they were making a Freedom Fighters cartoon. I like that they're keeping Ray's history instead of the dumb Rebirth version.

I loathe to imagine what kind of awful tacticool designs Uncle Sam and Phantom Lady will get though.
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>>95023830
>As in "Supergirl is aliteral angel" tier directions
Is this the same run with the Supergirl made of goo that merged with another bitch?
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Did somebody say "teh rei"?
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>>95023823
But anon, that's escactly what american left has been trying to get accepted as the truth since midwest america stabilised and it became clear that Tribes won't be recovering and spoiling their vision of future
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>>95023823
>How can you call it evil when almost everyone except an extremely small minority is living happily?
If you had to kill a billions of people to get peace then it's not really peace, that's just killing everyone who didn't fit in your society.
It's not worth it and Overman agrees, the paradise that HE built is still evil.
Did you not read the comic?
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>>95023823
>How can you call it evil when almost everyone except an extremely small minority is living happily?

By the fact that they don't acknowledge or denounce their evil history, and instead celebrate the nazi regime, its ideology and culture as the pinnacle of humanity. Overman is literally the only person shown to be haunted by Hitler's legacy and the only way he deals with it is discreetly undermine the very foundation of the society through helping terrorists rather than try to publicly, as the figure head of the leadership of the world, make the society see how terrible their inheritance is abd how they should learn from their mistakes.
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>>95023893
You can't equate Nazi germany with America. America was founded on the principle of freedom and liberty and while it doesn't it live up to those ideals at least it's ideal are not founded on oppression and murder.
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>>95023999
>make the society see how terrible their inheritance is abd how they should learn from their mistakes.
And now they can't do that because the Freedom Fighters dropped the watch tower on Berlin. Good job Overman, you got a shit ton of more people killed because of your guilt.
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>>95024037
Oh I see, people fighting for their very survival are evil while the Nazi who still want to kill them are good.
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>>95024075
>people fighting for their very survival are evil
How is dropping a watch tower on a bunch of civilians survival?
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>>95023861
>>95023928
Yes. It comes up in many issues. But she is also an angel who is somehow also a teenage girl living in small american city. There is also a lesbian who can transform into a superpowered albino man with equine eyes and legs
>>95023852
Anyone remember the Convergence freedom fighters mini ?
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>>95024037
That's why it's a tragedy.
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>>95024037
The comic went over your head anon.
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>>95024119
Exactly, there's no clear good or bad guys here just more deaths.
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An apt comparison would be if Filipinos started trying to blow up the US for what they did in the Philippine-American War.
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>>95024091

Because they're fucking Nazis.
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>>95024133
I think it went over your head, the final scene is played as something horrible which Overman regrets because in the end all he just did was let the Freedom Fighters kill more people which won't change anything. The men responsible for the genocides had long gotten away and those that were left to receive the punishment they deserved were their children's children.
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>>95021654

Sure is easily baited in here.
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>>95024091
Because it's a strike against the Nazi regime! You're fine with billions of civilians dying to get to the Nazi utopia but now the cost of life too much?
Doesn't work like that m8.
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>>95024156
Out of curiosity, do you think the US should have nuked Moscow and St. Petersburg?
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>>95021563
what did you expect when her black Supergirl costume was just a full body jumpsuit
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>>95024200

It would have been a good start.
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>>95024091
Taking out key members of the government will create chaos and allow larger attacks on the reich to be made, which furthers the agenda of taking the regime down. There's no denying it's still a vile act of terrorism, but that's how underground resistance work tends to operate when they're desperate and small in numbers. Playing dirty becomes a necessity.

The point of Master Men is that there are no black and white good and bad guys in this world. Everyone is corrupted through the hate and genocide.
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>>95024193

But what do those deaths actually bring about?
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>>95024193
>You're fine with billions of civilians dying to get to the Nazi utopia
I'm not but the dead are dead and those that caused those deaths are dead as well unfortunately. It's morally wrong to punish a child for their father's sins.
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>>95024037
>ignore problems for decades
>be surprised when shit happens

This is why we had 9/11.
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>>95024171
The children are still responsible for supporting the regime, they don't feel gulity about the atrocities and the fact that the freedom fighters were still around shows they were still willing to committ the same atrocities.
They're not being punished for the sin of their fathers but their own sins.
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>>95024247

Not if their father was a Nazi and they're also Nazis.
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>>95024244
A chance to destroy the evil regime you stupid shit.
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>>95024033
Do you honestly think nazis thought they fought for "oppression and murder" ? Just because they lost their megalomanic war of all fronts and were satanised by popular culture continued from war propaganda doesn't mean that clouding people's motivations after their age isn't one of the most efficent methods of controlling living public. If USA fails somewhere in near future, you can bet for sure that whatever is put in its place will justify itself by vilifying its predecessor.
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>>95020919
>>95020953
>>95021165
This is Guggenheim we're dealing with. His idea was to hire a Muslim actress based on Isis as a response to DRUMPF.

What's really going on here is that Guggenheim is piggybacking on one of Morrison's cool ideas in order to continue his little social politics rollercoaster ride.

Just st look at what the Game of Thrones showrunners are planning next with their alternate history Civil War America show. It's all just race bait, gender bait and politics bait.
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>>95024255
>Tolerate Great Ally's propagandizing
>it gets a tad out of control

Fix'd for accuracy.
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>>95024294
To be fair, the United States is built upon deeds far more nefarious than Hitler's modest predations.
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>>95024285

Seems to me they were less interested in toppling the regime and more interested in righteous payback.
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>>95024303
So diversity is okay if Morrison does it but bad when it's by Guggenheim, despite nothing changing in the core idea of FF being represented through oppressed minorities?
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>>95024349
Yes. Morrison's cock gets a lot of unwarranted worship around here.
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>>95024334
Difference however is that the US has tried, a bit painfully to correct them.

The NAZI world is just follow it or die in some corner
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>>95024294
You think the final solution was a side project or something? They knwlew what they were supporting, how could they not? Nazi Germany was a propagamda trap where jewish moral degeneracy was public enemy no°1
You did not ironically say kill the jews or hitler was right in nazi germany.
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>>95024349
What was wrong with making Steve black?
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>>95024382
The USA made the population of an entire large continent "disappear" and tries to atone for it by feeling awkward about naming sports teams after them.
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>>95024397
worth it for that very joke
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>>95024397
>In one book Morrison managed to piss off both purist and SJWs
That shit was great
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>>95024336
You can do both, that's underground resistance in a nutshell because they were vitctims of the Nazis and they knew Death was a certainty but they did it anyways because they knew resistance was the only moral option.
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>>95023930
You already know there's no medicine for that kind of thinking, don't you my praetor?
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>>95024382
>The NAZI world is just follow it or die in some corner
You don't say.
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>>95024334
>the United States is built upon deeds far more nefarious than Hitler's modest predations.

Well I see you're an idiot
KYS
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>>95024473
Those are some nice looking corners to die in though.
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>>95024489
Texas-tier education detected.
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>>95023670
>>95023735

I thought Overman and friend were horrified when they learned about the camps. I don't think the modern Nazi empire was still doing anything evil. I thought they started to reform but I could be wrong about that, its been awhile since I've read it.

>>95023786
>Anytime this world comes up

We haven't seen it since Multiversity.

>>95024075
>>95024037
>>95024033
>>95024091
>>95024075
>>95024133
>>95024156
>>95024171
>>95024247
>>95024266
You are aware that Overman subconscious let the watchtower fall because he was dream raped by The Gentry and the Freedom Fighters were funded by the Council of Sivanas?

They were the bad guys. The cosmic-level bad guys supported them.
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>>95024509
Very few Reservations are on "good land".
Although occasionally they luck into some mineral/oil deposits that no one at the time could have suspected were in the badlands.
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>>95024489
>G-guys, stop calling us nazis! That's our thing!
Sanctimonious burgers
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>>95024413
>>95024473

Native americans have represenatives both on the federal and local levels for their tribes. They get a shit ton of land grants and tax free zones. And other privlages I'm sure I'm missing.

While not perfect in making up for genocide, that is 3000xtimes better than anything the NAZI world is attempting.
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>>95024563
The only significant difference is that our Final Solution was actually pulled off, and that our hostile territorial acquisitions were successful.

Then we made John Wayne movies about how noble and courageous it all was.
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>>95024413
First of all, you do not know anything about the Native American plight so this is just virture signaling.
Secondly, america changes it's policy towards Native Americans for the better.
The treatment still sucks but the fact is they tried to correct the wrongs they did.
Third, America wasn't founded on the principle that the native america were subhuman filth that needed to be exterminated.
We had policies like that but policies can change, the leadership leaned.
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>>95024548
And ever so often, like with Standing Rock, the government will come over and threaten to destroy their fresh water sources with oil pipelines because the opinion of the people living on the reservation doesn't matter as much as white neighborhoods who refused to allow the pipeline go through their land.
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>>95024413
God, that strip is retarded.
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>>95024608
Stop projecting your relative ignorance onto others, please.
>Third, America wasn't founded on the principle that the native america were subhuman filth that needed to be exterminated.

It was founded on the policy of "they just have to go" see pic related.
>>95024602
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>>95024602
>that our Final Solution was actually pulled off
Now that's something a native would kick your ass over if he ever heard you said it. They take the fact they are a a living and thriving community very seriously.
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>>95024707
>They take the fact they are a a living and thriving community very seriously.
Yes, they are a "thriving" pocket of drug addicts and congenital alcoholics enjoying the good life in shit-tier regions no one else could be paid to live in.
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>>95023847
Look, just stop attacking everyone okay? I'm just here to observe the discussion, take the misplaced righteous attitude somewhere else, hypocrite.
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>>95024673
It was more akin to "with these treaties we promise to keep our borders where they lay and be friendly but isolated neigbors" which then became "treaties, what treaties? There's gold in dem mountains so you redskins just fucking have to move out of the way."
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Please will a mod just put this thread out of its misery
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>>95024745
Trail of Tears would have been the equivalent of Hitler convincing the Jews to fight on the front lines of the Eastern Front, then marching the survivors out to Siberia to "thrive".
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>>95024731
Oh yeah you fuckers know nothing about us.
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>>95024822
t. 1/32nd Native American
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>>95024608
As the anon arguing the US is far and away better in reforming its past compared to Earth 10 NAZIS. You really need to look over the manifest destiny policy. The whole point of that document was that the US/white man would take over the continent from coast to coast.
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>>95024849
It's unsurprising that the USA, as the victors, got to write a better history book than the Nazis.
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>>95024843
Nano-machines and proper supplementation
>vote Armstrong
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>>95024473
Maybe those fucking Indians shoulda been better at war
Then they wouldn't have lost all that clay
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Remember that the state of Texas is the American Sudetenland, except it wasn't filled with ethic Americans, it was land lent to American sharecroppers who just made themselves cozy and decided "hey, all this country's land is ours now."

And since we won, it was totally a noble fight against Evil Mexican Aggression against outnumbered but Noble patriots and heroes.

I can imagine victorious Germans putting the same spin on "Unified Europe".
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>>95025043
*ethnic
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>>95025043
Currently underwater due to basic inability to correlate cause and effect of long term industrialization and a secret love for places that look like parking lots.

And radioactive too!
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>>95024849
But many Americans rejected Manifest destiny as well like 3 fucking presidents and it never was really a popular idea in the first place. You cannot place a moral equivalence to Nazi Germany because they're two completely different things.
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>>95025043
>Texas was like the American Sudetenland
>except in all the vast ways it wasn't
Fantastic.
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>>95025084
The best quality of Americans is that when they are sending you Smallpox blankets, loading you onto slave ships or violently annexing parts of your nation, there are always that percentage that feel really, really, really bad about it.

That (and success) are what separates us from monsters like the Nazis.
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>>95025132
That's the point, the Germans could at least say "look at all the generations of Germans living there in Czech, (and we need that farmland).

The Americans were invited in as temporary tenants, and liked the place so much they just thought they'd keep it.
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>>95025043
Good job ignoring how the mexican citizen in texas also want to be independent from mexico.
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>>95025209
At the time, they didn't want to be part of the United States. By the time Texas was accepted in, it was a majority white American region.
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>>95025171
No you faggot the best part about americans is the written in the constitution. That all men are created equal. Africans enslaving their own to be bought by the english isn't the fault of american values but flies in the face of it. The english and later americans basically committing genocide to a conquered native people (name a culture that hasn't done that, I dare you) flies in the face of those values as well. American values are free speech, the right to your stuff (which includes your own body and labour by the way), and the right to have your vote count for something. If you don't like it you can go die in a gulag.
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>>95025318
Exactly my point, the best part is Feels, writing down aspirations you don't intend to commit to, and generally paying lip-service to ideals like "We Do Not Torture" or "We Don't Make Deals with Terrorists", until it's advantageous to do so.
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>>95025318
Oh and the argument was never "Other Countries dindu nuffin", it was "Nazis are only special Super Monsters" because they ultimately failed completely at being dicks.
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>>95025318
Polynesians?
even the Mongols were absorbed into existing culture/bloodlines, after conquering much of Asia.
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>>95025318
>(name a culture that hasn't done that, I dare you)
India?
One of the oldest nations with a staggering population?
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>>95025380
It's not a matter of feels. It's a matter of ideology. Civics lessons in america are trash because they've been systematically dismantled by politicians with distinctly unamerican principles and america has been under control of various groups people who don't want your vote to count for 60 fucking years. The american ideology is dead. America the corporate nation is still around. The problem is that people are so politically illiterate due to the shit school system that they think the left/right dichotomy offers any kind of solution to it. I'm antireligious and I would rather vote for a actual fundamentalist prostestant than any american politician. Because at least the principle of standing by what you say is instantiated in christian dogma.
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>>95025318
t. Angry Anglo Teenager
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>>95025487
Ideology isn't as important as ACTUAL ACTIONS.

Strangling the neighbor's kids doesn't become more noble because you've always had strong feelings against child strangulations.

You triggered as hell dumbass.
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>>95025482
India's defense policy vs pakistan is "for every indian you kill we will kill 100 pakistanis"

They had a caste system and in antiquity perpetuated genocides because that culture is 6000 years old and genocides were as common as getting brunch is now
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>>95025521
I agree. Reread what I wrote nigger.
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>>95025482
Psychiatry and tech support are my main arguments against that with respect to mutilation and the destruction of individual cultures apart from their way of thinking. Yes, I meant it *that* way.
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>>95025523
>India's defense policy vs pakistan is "for every indian you kill we will kill 100 pakistanis"
That's a DEFENSE policy against a breakaway nation. Not a genocide.

>They had a caste system and in antiquity perpetuated genocides because that culture is 6000 years old and genocides were as common as getting brunch is now
[Citation Never To Be Provided]
First, I think you ought to look up the meaning of the term "genocide". Then stop posting because nigga you is dumb.
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>>95025551
I'm not Dumb White Trash enough to really get excited about a debate on Cultural Genocide, sorry.
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>>95025573
https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history

Took five seconds
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>>95025606

Why? The ongoing situation with Tibet is pretty fascinating.
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>>95025521
The American Ideology was ALWAYS a corporate/exploitative one in PRACTICE, whatever they taught the future Doughboys and Marines in grade school.
Isolationism was a thing simply because we had so much territory to "free" and control and expoit from the onset. America has always been predicated on a Fast Buck, whatever noblebright shit you've had your head filled with.
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>>95025606
And neither am I, I was talking about what happens when you give Super Einstein systematically institutionalized brain damage... or did the original topic of this thread fade a bit for you?
>refuses to sell you horseshoes
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>>95025616

Isn't that genocide committed against, rather than by Indians?
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>>95025293

That's because the independent Texas was failing miserably as it's own nation. Still was considered an improvement over Mexican rule, but they were desperate to get into the US since they couldn't support themselves. They still tried though and it's not like the goal was white people taking the land from Mexico for glorious USA all along.
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>>95025661
Not really, it hasn't fascinated much anyone in the decades it's been dragging on.
China can do whatever they want to the Mountain People, we have to much money tangled up with them.
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>>95025699
You're conflating Hindus with Indians

This was a genocide against Indian hindus committed by Indian muslims. So it is a genocide committed by indians
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>>95025699
Shhhh, let him think he made a point, he might shut the fuck up as a result.
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>>95025726
PLEASE just look up Genocide. You've proven you can use the internets to some degree.
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>>95024585

>NAZI

If they are full on Nazis in every way, every single man, woman and child would have access to college level education, health care, a job and be driving a modern car and have an apartment.

Nazism at it's core is no different to modern Scandinavian Socialism. It just gets a bad rap due to the actions of a war time political party being pressured into what it had to do to make ends meet.

Compared to what the Soviets did to the Poles, Ukrainians and other non-dissident nations once they were 'united' after WW2, the Nazis were literal saints.
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>>95025799
Native Americans didn't get wiped out simply because we had enough Ghetto territory to shove them into, far enough away that we didn't have to look at them anymore.
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>>95025781
https://www.google.ca/search?q=genocide&rlz=1CDGOYI_enCA713CA713&oq=genocif&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.1978j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

>Genocide,” a term used to describe violence against members of a national, ethnical, racial or religious group with the intent to destroy the entire group
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>>95025840

Native Americans didn't get wiped out because Britain put pressure on the US government of the time to stop being niggers and killing them. The threat of a total trade embargo with the British Empire and policing of all trade lanes meant the US had to suck it up. The ghetto thing came later after the US realised that giving them land was better than just having them walk around. Britain already advised on giving them reservations ala 1812 demands.

Don't act like the US wasn't entirely willing to genocide the rest of the natives until outside pressure prevented it. The same happened when Britain pretty much single handedly ended the transatlantic slave trade, primarily to fuck with the Dutch.
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>>95025799
>Nazism at it's core is no different to modern Scandinavian Socialism
No that's entirely wrong. Nazis is not a socialism at all, it's facsim.
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>>95025799
Why the fuck you lying anon? Nazism wasn't about socialism at all, it's about creating an ethno-state. It was always about Race, you can't pull a no true scotsman and say that Nazi germany doesn't reflect Nazism.
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>>95025521
Ideology does matter anon, I would rather deal with a pragmatist than an fanatic which is what really divides America and Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was filled with nothing but fanatics who were more obsessed about killing jews.
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>>95024303
>Just st look at what the Game of Thrones showrunners are planning next with their alternate history Civil War America show. It's all just race bait, gender bait and politics bait.

Wait what? I don't what GOT, what the he'll are they doing?
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>>95020780
What show?
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>>95026216

Really? Filled with literally nothing but?
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>>95026221

Show about what if the South won, I think.
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>>95026030
>Native Americans didn't get wiped out
Exactly, they didn't. You're talking about hundreds of years of the united states government dealing with thousand of tribes and you're generalizing it down to America killed all the indians.
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>>95026318

So is it only genocide if you succeed at it?
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>>95026278
Well how else would you describe a nation that is more focused on killing civilians than fighting thet enemy? When they realized they were beat many of it's leader and citizens choose to kill themselves than accept defeat.
That's not a country thinking straight.
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>>95026348
Pop quiz. Which nation walked the trail of tears?
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>>95026221
Had a bit of a nautical captaincy moment from BENEATH the waves now did you!?
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>>95026348
It ain't genocide when we're talking hundreds of different cultures because the native Americans are not just one big ethno-group because now we're just talking politics.
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>>95025661
ANDREW MOTHERF-
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>>95026444

Okay, so it's not genocide, It's just mass murder with racial overtones, got it.
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>>95026368

So literally (literally) the entire population of Germany consisted of completely insane fanatics?
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>>95024735
For that response you really should kill yourself
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>>95020780
>evil Nazi counterparts of The Flash and Green Arrow
lol
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>>95026983
meme arrows
>this new movie may be our chance at "Red Lantern, Red Arrow"
Though honestly I'd guess something was up if some other corps or the Zamerons or even the Eldritch copycat Starheart was involved somehow.
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