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So this weeks Red Hood and the Outlaws annual shed some interesting info on Dick and Jason's relationship as brothers. What did you guys think? Is this a starting point for them? How about the rest of the family.

Pic for Tim fans :(
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Timfags on suicide watch
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>>95005232
This is such terrible writing.
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>>95005232
Sorry Forgot to link the Storytime

Here >>94995794
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>>95005232
>Is this a starting point for them?
I think this the last time Dick will appear in RHATO to be honest.

Also,the fact that it happens in annual prove that Lobdell isn't interested to take this anywhere.
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>>95005254
They were flipping their shit earlier. It's honestly not a big deal. Pre Crises Jason had circus origins
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>>95005343

I would take Jason cameos over Tim. Seriously fuck Tim. I got a laugh at his fans crying about this
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>>95005232
I think, with this and that one page in Nightwing some time ago, that they're definitely trying to rehabilitate Jason in, at least, Dick's eyes. And Bruce, too, probably. There certainly are some interest by at least three writers and I'm guessing, two editorial offices (Batman and the one that manages RHATO's ones)

As I said in the former thread, I'm guessing Tim will have some short personal stories that go further into their relationship as partners and family (after he passes his problematic phase after coming back from dimensional limbo)
And I'm guess Kate, too, will have some kind of "getting to know Jason deeper and better" with the next arc in RHATO and whatever they end up having in the future storyline in Batwoman.
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>>95005300
Why?
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>>95005431
I'm glad. It's stupid for them to be estranged over nothing at this point. That said uh is there anything left for Tim that doesn't need fixing Tim this point?
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>>95005232
>>95005431
Oh, I just remembered, OP.
We are getting a one-shot story for Jason and Duke with the green writers from the academy-like thing on DC (I cannot remember the name of the thing).

So, yeah, definitely, I think DC is trying to integrate him in the bat family as a recurrent-but-not-regular ally.
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>>95005343
You know Dickfags were scared about the annual going in but they made out like bandits. Fucking Tim and the annoying segment of Jason fans are he only ones complaining
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>>95005466
I dunno. Maybe bringing back his pre-FP character traits and backstory, while integrating some occasional aspects of his post-FPs and giving him some flaws because the afer effects of Oz's prison could be some balance for him. He could have a place in the senpai as the detective and smart guy, yet. It's just, please, don't make him a fucking kirito-gary stu.
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This is the only relevant part of the story.

>>95005431
Jason has said in this month issue that the batfamily aren't a family to him in the way that it matters and only Artemis and Bizarro are family to him. So, don't get your hopes up so you wouldn't be disappointed.
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>>95005580
I'm plenty aware of him putting some distance from the batfam, but I also think he will overcome that, eventually, even it it doesn't last for long because comics. It's a distance that is grown from his regrets from his fucking ups and fears about himself. I mean, I bet he thinks of Alfred as family, even if he stated that. And clearly threads Bruce as a father in his inner dialogue.
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we need to talk about this Artemis/Dick bullshit they're trying to pull on us
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>>95005661
Literally all she did was take him aside to talk about Jason
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>>95005661
>redhead in a book with Dick

What did you expect?
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>>95005580
>Jason has said in this month issue that the batfamily aren't a family to him in the way that it matters and only Artemis and Bizarro are family to him
Well, when Dick and Artemis get married, Jason will have to see the Batfam as family.
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>>95005254
I don't even get why. It's a fucking circus and the Flying Graysons were one of the main attractions. Did they think only Bruce Wayne and the Drakes ever went to see them or something?
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>>95005661
Some people didn't get that it was all a ruse, eh?
Artemis wanted to tease Jason while also getting to know a bit more about him by Dick's stories. Dick wanted to share his thoughts on his problematic but good little brother with her new partner while teasing him (because that's what brothers do)
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>>95005576
I would have faith but Tynion is writing it and the only part of Pre 52 Tim he seems to care about is Steph
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>>95005724
>when Dick and Artemis get married

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
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>>95005645
Bruce and Alfred will always have connections to Jason no matter the rectons. The rest though? Not so much and you need to understand that there's a big part of Jason fandom that will not be satisfied with the batfamily being more involved in his live in this way.
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>>95005580
He's clearly full of shit because it's shown several times that he sees Bruce as a father and Alfred too
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>>95005726
Apparently, they only have two customers, silly anon. Even if it would be kind of realistic for half Gotham to go watch them at least once.
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>>95005776
But Tim was involved for a while and even before this him and Dick seemed like brothers. Estranged and distant ones but still brothers
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>>95005661
Nah, man. Although Annuals are canon, the fact that this will probably be one of the few times in RHatO Rebirth that we see Dick and that all Artemis cared about was talking about Jason means that Artemis is still likely to give Jason death via snu-snu


What we do need to talk about is Bestzarro and the fact that he is the best boy for all time.
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>>95005758
I don't either, but maybe we will be lucky, who knows.
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>>95005232
I think the better question is at what point did this board get so bad that it started sucking Scott Lobdell's dick?
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>>95005747
>Artemis wanted to tease Jason
I didn't see that.

She kept flirting with Dick when Jason wasn't even seeing it.

She was over Dick because she was over Dick.
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>>95005661
Fuck that it was a ruse. What wasn't was the homo moments between Dick and Jason. What is Lobdell trying to do here?
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>>95005806
Bizzaro has more game than Jason. It's getting sad.
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>>95005823
when he apparently got a good editor who told him to stop trying to be edgy and just write good stories.
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>>95005825
When was she flirting with Dick with Jason out of picture? Because I only saw her talking about Jason, anon. You don't flirt with a guy by talking about that guy's brother.
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>>95005849
So it's Dick> Tim> Bizzaro> Jason> Roy getting fucked over by Wally.
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>>95005825
Man, Dickfags were so obessed with any Jason related thing. It's kind of getting creepy.
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>>95005872
Oh so his entire career has been plagued with editors telling him to write literary dumpster fires over and over again. Makes sense.
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>>95005935
>were
Well, I actually means are.
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>>95005935
She was just saying that to make him feel better
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>>95005834
All so see is one ripped guy looking at another. Also Dick is fucking rude to get naked on someone else's couch
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>>95005915
Did people forget that Jason was involved with few women in n52? He only stopped dating after what happened to his blonde girlfriend who got hurt which made him more wary of getting himself involved in relationships.
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>>95005935
I'd say she was joking but I dunno, I think she was slightly very slightly interested
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>>95005985
Oh man, this guy in in critical stage.
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>>95005873
Not really. Just asking about funny stories.
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>>95005834
Dick is fucking jacked
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>>95006015
>I think she was slightly very slightly interested
She was just trolling. She completely forget about him later.
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>>95005823
Since when has this board ever been good?
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Artemis and Dick's children will be cute
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>>95006056
He's the hottest member of the Bat Family.
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>>95006008
Even then his game was weak. He took her on a boring ass date
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>>95005661
The Artemis/Dick stuff was there to do two things:

- have Artemis troll Jason a bit
- have Artemis tell Dick what Jason was too scared to say
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>>95005431
>I'm guessing Tim will have some short personal stories that go further into their relationship as partners and family
I wouldn't be surprised at this point if they did the exact opposite, all things considered.
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>>95005834
I saw a porno like this once
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>>95006056
I'd Jack that fucking dick
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>>95005935
>Dickfags were so obessed
They always been tsundere for Jason. Why do you think they are trying to push Artemis on Dick? Because they want to her to get out of the way.
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>>95006109

If you read it a certain way then so would Jason apparently
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>>95005431
That 'Tec crossover will be hilarious on CBR. DT already has anti-Tynion tantrums pre-written.
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>>95005834
is there porn of them?
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>>95006086
He was trying to be normal. Jason didn't get that that couldn't work until later: she was a playful amazon who likes adventures to the core.
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>>95005834
> Dishes on the table

Disgusting
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>>95006139
You have no idea.
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>>95006139
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the biggest Dick pairing right now
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>>95006056
Kirkman draw everyone jacked.
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>>95006139
Give it another day
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>>95006134
>DT already has anti-Tynion tantrums pre-written.
As expected. He always does. Guy sure thinks he can see the future.
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>>95006160
Wasn't that Bruce/Dick? This is second-biggest.
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>>95006126
Awww. It's ok dick fans, we all love Jason.
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>>95006145
A shame too, I thought they were cute.

>>95006160

Which is strange but they should love this issue
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>>95006139
Plenty.
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>>95006126
Aha, this explain it
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>>95006184
Nope. JayDick has surpassed it
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>>95006184
JayDick passed it long ago on AO3, 1926 vs 1183

I don't know how to do a google trend or whatever though
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>>95006184
Dick/Jason overtook Dick/Bruce recently
Dick/Wally is third
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>>95006197
Me too, anon. Me too.
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>>95006224
>>95006231
Dick/Wally will probably pass it if YJ S3 provides fodder. At 1025.
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How much time until Dick/Artemis lewds start dropping? I say two weeks.
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>>95006231
>Dick/Wally
The shittiest of taste
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>>95005834
Okay maybe I'm stupid but I don't get this page
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>>95006264
please delete this

>>95006272
they know they should talk but they don't
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>>95006252
Anon, Jason isn't gay and he will never be interested in you. Let it go.
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>>95006264

I agree.Should be Dick/ Roy
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>>95006231
>>95006224
>>95006184
What about not homo pairings?
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>>95006157
>>95006175
>Will probably be porn of Dick and Jason in less than 24 hours time
>Is absolutely nothing of Jason and Artemis
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>>95006286
Aww that's actually really sad. They won't admit they they want to hang out or anything thing? Hope they can fix it. Ilike them both
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>>95006231
>Dick/Wally
But why. There's absolutely no chemistry between them
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>>95006295
Dick was made for cock, anon.
Babs 773, Kori 280

But more of the TT cartoon stuff will be on FF.net though, this is recency bias.
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>>95006264
Dick/Wally is great
Dick/Roy is good too though
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>this thread
This is why I don't want Jason to be associated with Dick.
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>>95006299
>Is absolutely nothing of Jason and Artemis
Even worse: it is easier to find porn of Artemis and Sam Wilson than Artemis/Jason.

Sam fucking Wilson.

Why?
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>>95006330
This. Dick/Wally is bland shit.
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>>95006224
>>95006231
>Dicknighter only has 51 works

Not fair, desu.
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>>95006362
Jason doesn't deserve her.
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>>95006330
He's a redhead with perfect tights.
Of course people dig it.
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>>95006362
If I had a picture to express my current level of annoyance, disgust and disappointment I'd post it
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>>95006339
To be fair, more people include Dick/Babs as a generic side pairing than as an actual main thing to write about too
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>>95005661
Any feelings for him are gone as soon as best Superboy is almost kill
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>>95006354
This is a pretty civil thread though, unless you mean you don't want Jason to get touched by Dick(s)
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>>95006354
Give it until the next issue of RHATO and we will be free of his fans.

Until then, we just have to be patience.
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>>95005834
Why'd he smile?
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>>95006354
Jason is canon gay for Dick, and there's nothing wrong with that
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>>95006354
It will be worse if he ever crossovers with Tim
Jason/Tim is most popular Jason ship
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>>95006454
Such a trash one too. Not enough Jason/ Artemis. Him being jealous was cute
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>>95006371
>that one JayDickNighter fic
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>>95006435
>Two more weeks
Oh man..
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>>95006354
Come on, anon. We are doing dome gayness for fun, only. Chill.
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>>95006286
Huh that's a sad scene then
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>>95005232
>all the other comic websites are angrily arguing about the annual
>/co/ is talking about gay shipping
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>>95006475
> Bubble butt Jason

I like it
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>>95006496
They are arguing about what exactly?
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>>95006454
Tim non tumblr fans don't care about ships like Dickfans everywhere do. No to mention that we have been dealing with tim fans since n52 and the way less annoying.
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>>95006496
What are they arguing about? Nobody looked bad here . Lobdell pulled through
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>>95006505
Timfags are angry about part of Tim's origin being 'stolen' by Jason
Some Jasonfags are pissed because they don't want a good relationship between Jason and Dick or they don't like that Jason looks up to Dick
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>>95006496
Reddit is enjoying it too, actually.
And I'm betting Tumblr too, based on the feeling of the issue.
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>>95006520
Yeah, /co/ Timfans aren't actually bad.
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>>95006448
He knows they'll be alright

OR

He is reveling in having cucked Jason

OR

He knows Jason wants him and is too afraid to do anything about it

Who can say?
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>>95006529
Mostly Tim fans and a few Jason fans on CBR are upset. Everyone else is good.
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>>95006548
More like /co/ timfans don't exist
I think this website's perpetual hatred of Tim drove them off, I never see them around anymore
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>>95006559
My mind says 1 the troll in me says 2 and my vag says 3, so all of the anove
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>>95006496
CBR is the only place having a meltdown while the rest are enjoying it or simply not taking it too seriously.
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>>95006529
As far as I've seen it's just CBR/Batman at each others throats, and they do that anyway.
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>>95006578
Ya know Tim fans I get but wtf do Jason fans have to be upset about? He didn't look bad.
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>>95006575
There are some here, but they're actual chill dudes with at least two neurons.

It's funny, because no one complains about Tim getting Jason background and character in the BTAS universe.
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>>95006559
OR

Jason has heard Dick's take on Jason in his first night going alone as Robin and they're having an "Now I know what you really think of me" moment.
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>>95006525
I don't get how it's stealing.

Jason goes to the circus once before the fatal night, thinks Dick is cool, then goes back to his miserable life.

Tim goes to the circus on the night Dick's parents die and becomes an obsessive stalker until he becomes Robin himself.
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>>95006597
Huh? It's only the usual two fans who aren't happy with anything, the rest are ok with it.

>>95006578
Tumblr reaction surprised the most because I thought they will be all about Jason/Dick, but they don't care much about it and they only gushing on how cute Jason is (and laughing at Tim).
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>>95006597
>wtf do Jason fans have to be upset about?
The kind of fans that want him to go maximum edge and disown any form of family he has/had.
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So who was the artist for the Annual? Didn't look like the normal artist's work.
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>>95006604
I think it's because most people rightly acknowledge that the second BTAS Robin was Jason-in-everything-but-name, probably because actually calling him Jason Todd would be too obvious about leading to a bad end. I don't know anyone that actually considers BTAS Tim Drake actually "Tim Drake".

If anything, most modern cartoon Robins seem to be heavily Tim-based, but with Dick's name slapped on purely for the name recognition.
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>>95006597
Some Jason fans think he should be in bad terms with the batfam and with no connection to them.

They're few, but they exist, unfortunately.
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>>95006664
Tumblr started "no incest" campaign and most of them only like Jason and Bruce fatherly relationship while so-so on the rest.
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>>95006664
>(and laughing at Tim).

I'm glad that comic fans across the internet can come together and laugh at Timfags. Hope for humanity.
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>>95006715
Yeah, Bruce/Jason moments get the biggest reaction and reblogs.
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>>95006687
Oh, it may be that, yes. I can see the same with Tim/Dick, as you point out.
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Does anyone have a snap of Artemis' water dripping ass?
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>>95006761
And boners
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>>95006664
>but they don't care much about it and they only gushing on how cute Jason is
Can you blame them? Look at how cute Jason is.
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>>95006991
Yeah, he was really cute in this issue. Also, salty jelly cute there.
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>>95006991
>tfw you'll never have Jason as your awkward qt housewive
Why live
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>>95007189
We won't, but Artemis and Bizarro might.
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>>95005834
Is this the gay pic you gross people keep going on about?
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>>95006991
Artemis is so freaking lucky to have this cutie.
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>>95005834
> How are his abs so ripped?
> Dont worry bro I know your abs are gen more ripped
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>>95006991
>Can you blame them?
Oh, I don't at all.
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>>95007396
no the OP is the gay pic, that's just beefcake
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>>95005580
This the nicest thing I have seen Willis do for Jason.

Give me more of this, Lobdell.
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>>95006991
>>95007412
If You'd told me back in 2006 that I'd want to take Jason freaking Todd on a romantic date and tell him how cute he is I'd have called you a dirty rotten liar.
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>>95007566
It really messed up that he stole the tickets from elderly, but it still nice that he did it for his son.

I kind of had mixed feelings on the idea of exploring Willis Todd, but now I want to see more of him.
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>>95007566
It reminds me of Mac's dad in IASIP breaking into peoples houses on Christmas, and stealing other kids presents so his family could have a nice day. Shitty good parenting Willis.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4RlViJkq40
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>>95006575
I just don't bother responding to echo chamber shitposting most of the time. It's boring and you end up feeling bad for the instigator.
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>>95007515
That's even less gay. Jason has always admired Dick in some way
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>>95008210
Jason admires a lot of people. But he rarely receives any admiration. It's sad.
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>>95005661
>Walk off alone with Dick
>Immediately starts asking him about Jason

Calm down yo. Artemis is tsundere as fuck for Jay

>red-sex is coming
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>>95005834
That seems incredibly awkward. Just sitting in the dark not speaking
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>>95008210
Has he? I can't honestly think of too many times where he's expressing that
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>>95005232
This pisses me off. Jason has never hushed about Dick like this or been nervous around him. I legit think this has to be editorial. The whole issue was Jason pushing up Dick which is ooc as fuck and not even close to the equal relationship he has with Tim. Which took a long time to get to btw.
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>>95006295
DIck/Babs is.

Though to be fair, the majority of them seem to be a side pairing in a Young Justice fanfic and Teen Titans (which would have Robin/Raven and Robin/Starfire) is more of a fanfiction dot net thing due to being from a decade ago.
If the live action Titans show isn't complete garbage and Babs isn't shoved in it for a love triangle, Dick/Kori will probably get more popular.
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>>95008210
>"god I've always loved Dick and I should just tell him I want his cock down my throat!"
>less gay

?
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>>95005834
Why are there anal beads dangling above him in the first and last panels?
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>>95008405
LOL is that what you say to people who disagree with you? This is ooc bullshit which I didn't expect from how Lobdell been doing a good job so far.
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>>95008472
Well uh I didn't read it that way but you do you man. He just seems like Dick inspired him at that moment
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>>95008570
Symbolism. He wants it in the butt
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>>95008472
You have problems anon
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>>95008355
Agreed. Lobdell was trying to be deep and it didn't work
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>>95005232
This is stupid. Steps on Dick and Tim's relationship and Tim and Jason. I prefer Dick and Jason antagonistic
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>>95009008
Maybe the more Jason bonds with people the more he calms down
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The annual was really fun.

I don't get why people think Artemis was really interested in Dick though. She spent literally the entire time she was with him talking about Jason and when Jason said something she laughed at the idea. She's tsundere as all hell for Jason. The DickxJason stuff on the other hand......

Though the best part is how triggered Timfags are that Jason "stole" some of Tim's backstory. Despite it actually being Jason's backstory first. I like all the Robins being on good terms with each other. Why DC haven't done a Robin: The Brother's 4 like people have suggested is fucking beyond me.
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>>95009198
> Dick bending Jason over the table

It was in front of us the whole time
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>>95009216
> The Dick x Jason stuff

So I usually laugh at you guys but I can see what you mean this time.
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>>95009216
>The DickxJason stuff on the other hand......
There is no Dick/Jason stuff except in the depraved minds of the thirsty fujos who shit up the board.
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>>95005232
Jason and Dick are tsundere towards each other but really feel bad about not trying hard enough to be good brothers. I'd love to see a Dick/Jason mini at some point exploring their relationship more, or one featuring all the Robins.
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>>95009390
Who would write it? I wouldn't mind a 2 in one. One story by Lobdell and one by Seeley.
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>>95009268

Anon pls
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>>95009268
But that's wrong. If anything, it should be Jason x Dick, not Dick x Jason.
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So Timfags are upset that Jason stole some of Tim's backstory but there's literally nothing in the issue to indicate that Jason was actually there the night Dick's parents died. Just that one time Jason and his dad went to one of the many shows the circus put on.
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>>95009679
Um I don't know the difference
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>>95009737
They are mad because either they're retards or didn't read the issue and just saw isolated pages, as far as I've seen.
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>>95009737
Not to mention, OG Jason met Dick first at the circus
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>>95009746
I'm assuming the switch means Jason is the one who takes charge.
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>>95009679
Damn man, orders haven't mattered in western shipping in quite some time.
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>>95006056
Canon wise Jason has a bigger build and is taller than dick
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>>95011401
The only charge Jason could take is from the bottom, doubting even that.
The fuck are you anons making me type
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>>95011708
Jason is a pillow princess.
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>>95011708
Go on you know you want to. Also wtf guys his isn't a gay ship thread.
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>>95005232
I think this is actually a sweet page
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>>95011795
>Robin thread
>not gayer than Christmas with Elton John, his boy toy and your husband of 27 years
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To be a Robin you must also be a bottom.
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What're the odds Jason and Artemis become a full blown couple?
>start actually dating
>is super awkwardly cute becasue neither one of them has done it before
>Bizarro "secretly" following them to try and "help" they both obviously know what he's doing but play along
>eventually get married
>bizarro is best man
>Mr and Mrs. Todd legally adopt Bizarro
>Artemis announces she's pregnant
>Bizarro can't wait to be a big brother
>Have cute daughter that ages quickly for a little bit for reasons
>She and Bizarro start elementary school together
>She tells a nervous Bizarro not to be scared since she'll be there to protect him
A-All I want is for them to be happy and do cute things together.
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>>95012147
Stupid requirement. You could just say you are, even if you aren't and they'd have to take your word for it.
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>>95012435
absolutely never because comic books are shit and it would ruin an easy source of tension
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>>95012435
It's too cute and pure to happen.
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>>95011795
This issue was gay though
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>>95012574
Only in your demented imagination. Show me one, just one single gay thing that actually happened and isn't fujos interpreting everything through their lens of degeneracy.
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>>95012461
It's worked out great for Superman. Having another actual happy, stable couple or 8 would be great. It'd also help further differentiate Jason from the other Robin and Batfamily books.
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>>95005232

I don't see how this hurts tim
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>>95006673
>>95006713
I certainly have no qualms with Jason being on decent terms with the Batfam but I'd his black sheep status more emphasized if given a choice to make him stand out more instead of "the batfam guy who just happens to use guns".

Jason told Bruce he wouldn't kill but I'm wondering if it's just a matter of time before he snaps or regresses.
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>>95012684
It also is fair justice, given that he has a shitty record as far as family matters go. He's not a lucky guy, not even with him being revived.

Poor street orphan boy with sitty life and no love who gets to taste heroics: you could say that's cool, but in the end in only got worse for him.

Until recent years.
He and Billy should create a club or something
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>>95012793
Apparently it's Tim ancestry for meeting Dick or something
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>>95006673
>The kind of fans that want him to go maximum edge

I want this.

>and disown any form of family he has/had.

Nah not completely for this.
I thought Jason was a little too cute and friendly. He was also too gushy over Dick, which is a bit weird since he usually reacts more negatively to him.

>>95012945
>I certainly have no qualms with Jason being on decent terms with the Batfam but I'd his black sheep status more emphasized if given a choice to make him stand out more instead of "the batfam guy who just happens to use guns".

This.
I'm also a bigger fan of New Earth Jason though.
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>>95013071
> Wanting an edge lord over an adorable dork

Anon pls
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>>95012945
Giving him time and the proper writer, I wonder if they could play the same card that they played long ago, when he was Robin. With Jason killing someone before he does worse, after that said someone did tortured and hurt, and provoqued dead to good people with total impunity. I can see people responding to it differently from old times nowadays.

But alas, that could put Bruce in a bad place, being questioned for his probably rejection of Jason's decisions.

Of course, that could end up hurting Jason even more, not only because Bruce rejection, but because cold killing and desperate justice has only hurt him There is only so much that you can regret in your life .Could work for a psychopath with no empathy or feels, but Jason is everything but that.
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>>95013092

Can't I have both?
Mostly edge though.
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>>95013092
Why not both?
A person can swing between emotional states, and you could argue that, given his editorial history and his actual emotional, dramatical personality, he is almost bipolar. You just need the right trigger for triggering him again.

And of course some sense of balance, because readers like me need to have our moments of chill and our moments of rage.
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Anyone know if the annual will be collected in a trade and if so what one? I just had a quick look and it looks like it won't be in volume 2 or 3.
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>>95013247
Are you sure about the 3rd trade? Because it feels like it's the most fitting one.
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>>95013264
According to Amazon it collects issues #12-17. Though I suppose that could just be a placeholder since I don't think the volume has been officially solicited and it's release date is currently over 7 months away.
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>>95012972
IT'S MY ONLY GIMMICK!
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>>95013415
Lmao. Poor Tim doesn't have much left.
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>>95011622
Very true, but I always pictured Dick being "thicker" since he's shorter but since Jason is taller he only looks leaner but in reality the motherfucker is built like an irish shithouse.
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I don't mind Jason being more mushy, although I agree they really tried to play up the bromance w/ Dick and it came off really forced and so "notice me senpai!"

Then Dick tried to steal Jason's girl.
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>>95013701
>Then Dick tried to steal Jason's girl.

That's because he's Dick.
Also he seems to really have a thing for redheads.
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>>95013701

She isn't Jason's girl yet so it's still free game. Jason being notice me Senpai is cute so I'll accept it. Dick is still that cool olde ebrother to him.
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>>95013701
What's so forced about it? You guys just keep saying that.
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>>95013701
>Then Dick tried to steal Jason's girl.
Dick being a whore isn't surprising in the least.
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>>95005254
>Comes back
>everybody got better without him
>Is happy because he loves his freinds/family
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>>95013905
They mean they don't like it so it's forced
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>>95013701
He asked.

But I aslo noticed he came back late at night an Artmeis wasn't in the room.

Maybe she has her own trailer.
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>>95013905

I think the reason most people think it's forced is because Jason and Dick are usually more negative towards each other. They are rarely this nice to each other.
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>>95014067
Eh, after Dick came back from the dead they've been pretty nice. I think Dick us flattered that Jason wanted him here
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>>95014026
That would explain why Dick just got naked in the room
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>>95014139
>Eh, after Dick came back from the dead they've been pretty nice.

Didn't he fake his death though?
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>>95012435
Is Jason still a virgin? The way he acts around Artemis makes it seem like he is, but is pretending he isn't.
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>>95014190
No he slept with at least Essence and Isabel
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>>95005834
This is Geoff John's Gay tier.
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>>95014190
of course he is.

And she's never been with a man so it's perfect.

I demand one full double sized issue devoted to their first love-making.
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>>95014187
He died for real, came back quickly and continued to pretend to be dead
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>>95014267
What's that?
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>>95014190
Nope. He's been with at least 3 women. No dudes though so Dick can take his purity
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>>95014280
Yhis is what a delusion is.

Jason isn't a virgin. He has have at least two partners in new 52 (one was implied) ad did get to fuck iwth Talia before that. I think it was also implied somewhere that he hadsexy time with Rose too.

(I mean Deathstroke daygter, whose name I cannot remember for sure now)

He is dolite and silly and dorky, but he's now a virgin.
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>>95014364
I meant 'polite"
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>>95005232
> He was the most amazing thing I ever seen


That's really something. Like strong words
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>>95014385
For a little kid with a shitty life, not that strong. But it's dramatic, which is fine for how Jason speaks.
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>>95005232
Really? Do they have to shill this 'everything is interconnected and everyone knew each other before they actually knew each other' bullshit? One of the Robins admiring Dick when he was a Flying Grayson was already Tim's thing and that kid's lacking enough uniqueness and character as is and there's other ways you can show Jason's admiration for Dick. Why the fuck are so many comics like this?
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>>95005232
>both Tim and Jason giving this many shits about a circus act as a kid

This is ridiculous and completely unbelievable in the 21st century
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>>95014529
Not in a world with superheroes
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>>95014500
Well Tim doesn't have his old backstory anymore so fuck him. Might as well give it to Jason
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>>95014364
And it will be that dorkiness and politeness that will eventually make Artemis gush like a waterfall, then come to an abrupt halt when his heart's stolen by Bestzarro.
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>>95006224
>>95006231

>even fucking Dick/Wally is more popular than Dicknighter and Dickstroke amongst the fanfiction crowd

Why do women have such awful taste
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>>95014573
Shit he almost vomited it up for Dick right there. Biz has best girl now anyway
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>>95006673
Most Jasonfags are fine with him being cool with the Batfam they just have a problem with Dick, and Jason STILL having an inferiority complex after all these years. It's gotten annoying.
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>>95014592

This is true, I support Jsydick only to drown out the awful JayTim
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>>95014633
At some point u just need to accept that it's part of the character instead of bitching every time.
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>>95014529
It was fine with Tim because it immediately segues into him stalking everyone for years.
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>>95005232
>>95005834
I know what he was going for but out of context makes this seem like a confessing a crush.
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>>95014732
Indeed. It's not the first time Lobdell has laid the homo subtext on thick.
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>>95014732
It seems like that in context too. It it led to them fucking I would've just said yeah that seems right.
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>>95014807

I only started with Rebirth but I assume u mean RH/ Arsenal?
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>>95014267
? Pls explain
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>>95014915
It goes back to at least the early 90s when he did that X-Men comic Bryan Singer later repurposed into the scene where Bobby talks to his parents.
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>>95014977
Or maybe it was the late 90s. Either way the fashion was horrible.
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>>95014943
Think of they mean the Teen titans he wrote
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I miss psycho Jason tbqh
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Daily reminder this is the reason he's the "bad" robin.
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Can Starfire be a part of the Batfamily
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>>95005762
dick does have a thing for tall redheads though
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>>95015216
You're the only one. I was sick to death of him being an edgelord.
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>>95005232
Why does this feel like it leads up to them having intense butt sex.
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>>95015443
jasons mom is a cunt.
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>>95015994
Because that's what they will do.
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Does everybody in Gotham just love the circus?
It seems like everyone had seen the flying graysons perform before they died.
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>>95005300
Why?
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>>95017010
Because when Batman was first written people loved circus.
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>>95015566
Didn't Starfire and Dick have a kid
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>>95017811
Not in normal timeline, no
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>>95005300
That's modern comics in a nutshell. Keep in mind that this shit is considered the best of rebirth.
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>>95017845
Why does dc hate those two being together. Everyone else wants them to be but dc keeps making dick a whore or an asshole
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>>95017811
They had a daughter called Nightstar who wound up marrying Batman's son in Kingdom Come.
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>>95018054

Dick with Starfire and Jason with Artemis.
The two oldest batsons with tall redheads.
Men with taste!
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>>95018054
Probably because Starfire isn't under the Bat office editorial, which is why they end up pushing for Barbara most of the time. Plus if the Robins start settling down and having kids. Bruce starts to look pretty fucking old.
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>>95018108
>Barbara
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>>95018149
There's nothing wrong with Babs.
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>>95018149
Oh I agree with you. But it's never going to go away.
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>>95014592
>literally no DickTiger content at all outside of those two pics
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>>95018169
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>>95015116
everything Johns writes is gay as fuck
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>>95018200
Even comic books have to pander to the fujos now.
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>>95018054
They're working him into being a canon bisexual to enable him to whoring around with the guys too.
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>>95018284
They won't dare do it. The outrage would be too great.
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>>95018284
That's a really retarded idea
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>>95005300
The level of praise and admiration is OOC, but Jason is an intense person.
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It's completely fine that Dick and Jason are estranged when Jason was a complete psychopath Batvillain for a stretch of several years. I wish they actually acknowledged that instead of gloss over it with "I had a couple rough years" but it is what is it. It would be hard for a writer to dance around some of the shit Jason did anyway
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>>95018231
At least fujos pay out of the ass for the product
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King just tweeted this out

>shilling Lady Killer

well played, Joelle
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>>95018231
It's not pandering if he does it accidentally, though by the end of GL I think it was on purpose
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>>95018484
Jason did say in the annual something along the lines of "It wasn't long ago that I would have killed Dick Grayson where he stood. We got better."
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>>95018108
>Starfire will never be a part of the batfamily
>she will never have kids with dick and we will never have grumpy grandpa Batman
>Alfred will never bake them cookies
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>>95020185
I can't believe this qt spaghetti dropping dork was an edgy killing machine
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>>95020065
>So dog guy is Jason
Middle aged looking guy on the left Dick
>Stoner on the right Damian
and I guess Duke is reading? Or is this after Tim comes back.
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>>95020185
>>95020304
Here we are. He's a loveable dork now with huge artillery.
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>>95020414
Duke is the person on the right.
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>>95020456
Really? Huh maybe it's the lack of colour but Damian looks a lot older here.
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>>95020451
what up artemis.
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>>95013177
jason looks like a 40 y/o man there
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>>95020456
Tim should be there though since he's back by then
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>>95020451
They are all cute.
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>>95020451
How come these Outlaws are good when the previous Outlaws were shit?
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>>95020722
Rebirth magic, or Roy is cursed
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>>95020722
Lobdell is writing with lesser known characters which gives him more freedom. Kory and Roy are well known well loves and more associated with Dick than Jason
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>>95020566
Just because he's not in the panel doesn't mean he won't turn up or hasn't been on a previous panel.
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>>95020744
This, which is why Titans isn't a good book. Roy is a Dick man, so he needs to get off the Wondergirl and back on some man ass.
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>>95020750
Tim fans are in outrage mode at the moment so they will jump
On anything
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>>95020566
I'd say there's a chance reading boy is Tim, and Damian is off panel. Otherwise he'd probably be yelling at Jason for playing with his dog.
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>>95020722
>>95020731
>Roy is cursed
It's this. Roy has been fucking stories up since he was introduced. He's a bad character by design.
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>>95020566
Not sure about the timing. It's from #33.
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>>95020839
I think this is his trip so yeah Tim will be back
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>>95020296
Alfred being a great grandfather is a comfy idea
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>>95005232
Jason and Tim fags blow up
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>>95014333
There are hints that Jason was raped as a kid
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>>95021140
Winick and Daniels please go.
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>>95020799
I want More Jason and Damian shenanigans
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>>95020966
Imagine the kids of Jaytemis and Dickfire growing up together

>>95021140
Notthisshitagain.jpeg
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>>95021238
Jaytemis kid will have to protect Mar'i Grayson from perverted uncle Damian
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>>95021140
> I take the most garbage tier writing as solid continuity.

Ew.
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>>95021325
Damian would see her as a sister though.
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>>95021238
Bizzaro's already grown up, how would this work?
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>>95021238
>Imagine the kids of Jaytemis and Dickfire growing up together
Going by the last issue, It will be Dickfire and Dicktemis while Jason watches alone.
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>>95021358
But anon, they get married in another universe, it's inevitable
It'll be like Japanese animu with Damian feeling conflicted over his lust for his younger 'sister'
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>>95021140
Pls leave Winick
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>>95021238
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>>95021398
Yeah but it's not the same universe. Damian isn't even really that guy.
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>>95021238
Outlaws Gen2! Helping the citizens of Gotham with minor issues on the weekends!
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>>95021238
>Imagine the kids of Jaytemis and Dickfire growing up together
Please tell me Batman spoils them
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Is this thread still arguing over gay ships?
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>>95021140
What hints?
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>>95005834
>Jason I am home
>in your trailer
>and somehow my clothes fell off?
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>>95021564
There is no need to argue since everyone knows Jason and Bizarro is the best pair.
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>>95013701
Lobdell just isn't a good writer. Like with a lot of Rebirth writers (Tynion, Percy, Venditti, Humphries), he lacks subtlety.
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>>95020065
Jasonfags on CBR are already pissed over a comic relief scene.
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>>95021581
Well yes. There's nothing gay about that. Like I'm seriously confused by you guys
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>>95021564

Tim fans really don't have anything anymore. No Circus origin and no gay tension.
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>>95021581
It's pretty ride of Dick to make himself at home like that, but it isn't gay
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>>95021764
*rude
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>>95021764
This. I'm more confused by him just getting naked for no reason. Keep your pants on jackass
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>>95014190
Jason has slept with
>>Talia
>>Essence
>>Ravager
>>Starfire
>>Blonde flight attendant whose name I forget
Probably some more I'm forgetting but the boy gets around

How many of them remain canon in Rebirth is up in the air, but Essence at the very least has to be canon because he still had his All-Blades.
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>>95021836
Jason hasn't slept with Starfire
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>>95021836
>Ravager
rose is virgin, my man.
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>>95021764
>>95021817
Getting naked is a classic brother intimidation tactic. I do it almost every time I visit my little bro.
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>>95021764
>>95021817

It's only gay out of context
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>>95021878
This
She flirted with Jason and that was about it unless I'm remembering it wrong
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>>95021893
Um why ?
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>>95021975
To intimidate him. Enforcing a fraternal hierarchy is important.
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>>95021910
>>95021878
They fucked
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>>95022129
If they did it's been retconned out, Priest Rose is a virgin.
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>>95022129
Priest retconned that. The only Robin she's probably interested in now is Dick.
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>>95022059
I see. That said, I don't think Dick and Jason have that problem. Although the flashback could've been looked at that way
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>>95022592
Why does Dick look so old?
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>>95022059
>>95022539
People are reading way too much into this. Dick got naked because he sleeps naked. And to make it easier for readers to tell them apart.
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>>95022758
>he sleeps naked
weirdo
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>>95022829

Best scene. Lobdell giving us what we always wanted
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>>95020065

Fucking hell King, you just had to show Ace beating Jason didn't you?
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>>95022758
Should've left his shirt on. A blue shirt and a red shirt . There
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>>95022829
What does that phrase even mean
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>>95022829
Why are everyone's eyes black slits?
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>>95022875
Jason thinks they're going to be having tons of sweaty, athletic sex. He doesn't believe that Artemis is a loyal girl.
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>>95022829
Dicks fucking face lol. He knows what he's doing.
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>>95022850
He looks like he's smiling in the first panel. Jason I mean, not Ace.
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>>95022829
I'm getting "tumblr-level" of violent over here
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>>95023857
????
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>>95022829
It's cute seeing Jason salty and jelly as hell. But it's even funnier to think that he apparently doesn't realize that he also has a full pach of manly muscles.
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>>95022850
He's playing with the dog, anon. Don't be mad.
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>>95022850
makes me think
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>>95024909
Dick is still way more muscular than he is though.
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>>95024957
Is he? I take your word, but honestly, every time I see a design for Jason, he has at least a well rounded and balanced muscular built.

>>95024946
He loves to troll batfags with these silly listings, doesn't he?
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>>95024946
>scrawniest robin #3
What did he mean by this
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>>95025025
he was ranking them in long-term strategy. he said tim was the 3rd best strategist
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>>95025025
that's the strategy list, Tim was last on the fighting list (below even Duke)
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>>95024991
In terms of muscles it goes Dick > Jason > Damian > Tim
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>>95020065
he said "the boys are back"
I'm actually looking forward for a Batfamily arc, King seem to not like so much the robins
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>>95025276
he's just a big Dickfag
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>>95025276
Too bad for him he doesn't live in the ye olden days where he could just kill them off, indefinitely
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>Jaydick
>Jaytemis
>not Jayzzaro
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>>95025298
>>95025276
I honestly think that he likes all of the Robins. It's just that he cannot write them often for whatever reason. His fav is Dick, probably, but I would say that, even if he puts shit on them, he really likes Jason and Damian too, almos as much as Dick. You just have to look at the background things he does with both of them when they're in the story.
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>>95025376
>Jayzzaro
purest ship
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>>95006093
I think the same, he will probably choose to team-up will Spoiler or he will become a Spyral Agent after his return
I really don't see him stay, he wanted to leave even before the kidnapping
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>>95025418
That issue at the Bat-burger was cute

Personally, i think he just doesn't like Duke that much
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>>95025424
You mean degenerate ship
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>>95017010

the circus was a thing when the comics first came out
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>>95025475
Probably doesn't know what to do with him. I cannot blame him.
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>>95025477
purest
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>>95025429
he will probably go on a rebal phase with Steph or they will lounch the new YJ and he will be the lead
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>>95005431
>And I'm guess Kate, too, will have some kind of "getting to know Jason deeper and better"

I thinik Kate will be having trouble with some other sidekick first
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>>95021544
Very much so
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Why isn't JayDick a more popular ship like JayTim? They have way more chemistry together than Tim has with anyone
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>>95026458
Yeah, but after that, I wouldn't put it out f question.
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>>95018149
It has become a really good ship after Shawn imho
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>>95027485
Had to do with the new 52 forcing the idea that Jason and Tim were close, but now everyone knows Tim is shit so it's fading.
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>>95027523
No. Dick Helena is a good ship that should be pushed. Babs is trash
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>>95027582
I know a JayTim shipper who is livid after the annual. It warms my heart.
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>>95027523
Babs is easily the worst heterosexual option. Like I'd even prefer for Dick to cuck Aquaman and get with Mera, that's how bad Babs is.
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>>95027592
>Dick Helena is a good ship that should be pushed.

They are pushing it right now in NIghtwing
But at the same time they are starting to push again BabsxDick in Batgirl
Dick really is a slut
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>>95027738
>Like I'd even prefer for Dick to cuck Aquaman and get with Mera, that's how bad Babs is.
Dick already has a netorare redhead.

She is called Artemis.
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>>95027738
Shawn has set a new low
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>>95027485
IT's the archetypal Jock/Nerd seme/uke romance. Well it wouldn't be if Tumblr and AO3 could remember that Tim isn't given to crying every 30 seconds. But there you go.
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>>95027764
My problem is that they aren't pushing it enough. They only kissed once.
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>>95027792
Shawn did nothing wrong
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>>95027809
They are just two issues in, give them time
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>>95027617
Reeeee No way that Jason admires Dick more than Tim. Reee they should hate each other. I hate JayTim fags
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>>95027793
Tumblr or fanfiction Tim is one of the largest examples of fandom turning a character ooc for their shipping. Can't think of too many other people who have it as bad other than Bruce and Clark.
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>>95005834
Can someone please explain this scene to me? I have the annual but I honestly don't get what it's tying to convey.
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>>95027793

I'm glad I don't read fanfiction.
Comicbooks are enough.
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>>95028315
That they want to talk to each other and apologise but can't. Dick being shirtless during is an odd artistic choice I grant you.
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I have read the annual and I have to say that I understand why some jason fans dislike it.

Jason and Artemis were really occ (like seriously, what's up with it?) and the fight scene was really bad. It's such a big drop in quality compared to the rest of series.
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>>95028462
To be fair we've never seen Artemis during down time and I thought Jason was just trolling Dick at first. I didn't expect the Znotice me Senpai slant and I'm surprised it went there
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>>95028462
Dick's presence poisoned the series.
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>>95028365
I see now. Not sure why it was so hard to grasp. I agree with Artemis on them being good friends if they could get past this.
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Remember when Jason wasn't neutered?
I like RHATO Rebirth but he is a pussy compared to how awesome he used to be.
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>>95028462
I couldn't agree more with you. The annual was really disappointing.
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>>95028462
A lot of it is Being mad that Jason admires Dick so much. But I actually don't think that's a surprise. When they get together Jason with no argument listens to Dick and seems to trust him to lead. He always seems like he respects him even if it's not to his face. Hell in RHaTO N52 there was point that he said he was actually listening to Dick albeit he was dreaming about them training in his sleep. Jason has always admired Dick, but their situation/ baggage is always in the way
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>>95028517
I definitely don't miss Morrison's Jason, but I agree that Jason is too soft in Rebirth.

He wasn't like this in n52 so I don't know what happened exactly.
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>>95028575
Admiring him is fine, but going as far as saying that he was his hero? Yeah, no.
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>>95028627
Some people just want to fuck Dick, there's nothing wrong with that
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>>95028592
The family started accepting him. His new crew are also more fanmily like without being messes like Roy was. Jason is now trying to set an example for Bizzaro. Artemis is better grounded than Starfire.
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>>95028634
What does that have to do with either post?
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>>95028627
Well first he didn't say it but think it and secondly it makes a lot of sense. Jason views him and Dick as opposites. It's no wonder that he would be someone that Jason aspires for. Like this is what I could've had kinda way. Dick inspires a lot of people.
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>>95028592
>He wasn't like this in n52 so I don't know what happened exactly
The batfamily happened. Jason only interacted with Bruce (and sometimes Tim) in his book which was fine because his relationship with Bruce will always be important to him.

In Rebirth? The batfamily started to get more involved in his book which is the worst thing to happen to him.
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>>95028627
But no one but jason knows that. Might be why they don't get along. You admire someone and they constantly let you down.
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>>95028722
Rebirth is better than N52 so I dunno wtf your going on about
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>>95028672
That's why he was being dramatic
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>>95028722
>The batfamily started to get more involved in his book which is the worst thing to happen to him
This. Keep the freaking poisonous family out of his book.

I don't mind the friendly relationship they have, but I don't want them to get too close to him. Batman get a pass because Jason doesn't lose some brain cells when he is around him.
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>>95028749
It isn't. N52 had tension and a ruthless Jason. Rebirth Jason is a bleeding-heart by comparison and the book pushes the muh friendship angle too hard.
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>>95028749
It's, I seriously love rhato rebirth.

But I agree with this dude >>95028819 because just look at how bad the annual is.
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>>95028804
> That meme about Jason having a one sided crush on Dick now has traction

I hate you co
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>>95028873
Minus the fight which was actually bad, the annual was fine unless you think that jason should only ever act one way and not have hidden feelings about his family
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>>95028804

Guys, you can admire someone without wanting to bang them.
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>>95028703
>It's no wonder that he would be someone that Jason aspires for.

Jason usually aspires to be his own person and not Dick. One of Jason's biggest problems was about being in Dick's shadow.
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>>95028925
>tfw the tsundere Jason anon was actually correct all this time
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>>95028968
This is /co/, everything is about sex or politics
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>>95028968
? ? ?
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>>95028945
Dick is the last person Jason should ever act like this around.

Interestingly enough, someone made a good point in tumblr about how Jason's line about dick deserving more credits from him was such a BS and how his behavior around Dick made no sense which I unfortunately agree with.
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>>95028925
Wasn't much of a meme if only one autist was pushing it.
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>>95028834
>N52 had tension and a ruthless Jason.
Nu52 Outlaws was also written like complete garbage, so whatever floats your boat anon
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>>95028977
> Meme magic continues to be real
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>>95028462
The fight scene was typical Lobdell writing. Just globs of expository dialogue slathered across a bunch of splash pages.
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>>95029026
I might have replied to the wrong anon. I thought the implications was Jason was dramatic about his admiration because he wanted to bang Dick.
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>>95028592
>I definitely don't miss Morrison's Jason
Morrison's Jason was excellent though. Everyone seems to forgot how he completely redeemed himself in Batman Inc. but crazy Jason was fun in B&R.
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>>95029156
The only person who thinks New 52 Outlaws is even close to being better than Rebirth Outlaws is DT, and he thinks that Lobdell had this tightly plotted vision that was only hurt by editorial.
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>>95028976
I actually think now he's okay but before he was unsure.
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>>95029108
>Dick is the last person Jason should ever act like this around
Yup, Dick is the last person in earh who deserve any gratitude from Jason. He literally never done anything for him.
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>>95029175
>the only thing /co/ does with meme magic is make an autistic post from a thread about batfamily incest real
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>>95029175
What will get memed into the comic next?
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>>95029108
Act like what? He was sullen at the camfire and stuttered a little asking for help. That's it. He didn't tell Dick how he felt about him. The only thing both showed is that they wish their relationship was better
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>>95029242
Actually, I have seen numbers of fans who enjoyed n52 rhato more than rebirth because they didn't like how soft Jason has become.
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>>95029285
>>95029175
>>95028977
Anon, just stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>95029314
Well, edgelords have no say in anything.

There are fans who prefer N52 Deathstroke over Prieststroke.
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>>95029132
I agreed with him one time, at least to the point of saying that's the only way I'd ship it.
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>>95029332
I bet he is the anon who is tsundere for Jason from yesterday.
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>>95029108
>Jason's line about dick deserving more credits from him was such a BS
Forreal, Dick was a shitty older brother, credit for what?
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>>95029314
I like dork Jason but him not killing kind of dilutes his character and turns him into just another batfamily member
He should be the black sheep and token anti-hero, not an asshole like in nu52 RHATO but willing to kill if he feels like it's the best option
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>>95029285
It's called hypercrisis on /co/ not meme magic

And we always make gay shipping work
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>>95029364
>There are fans who prefer N52 Deathstroke over Prieststroke.
But that's correct. Just because you have shit taste doesn't mean everyone else does too.
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>>95029285
Why can't co use its power for good instead of troll requests?
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>>95029108

Honestly Jason must have been high or something because him being so nice and verbally (internally) generous towards Dick makes no fucking sense.

The "J-just tell him!" part was ridiculous.
I don't even think circus Jason was that happy about Dick.
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>>95029454
> Lobdell gives Jason a school girl crush on Dick, a guy who's done nothing for him

> No killing

Rebirth was a mistake
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>>95029314
If you want Jason who isn't soft why wouldn't you like pre-Flashpoint Jason best?
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>>95029421
>And we always make gay shipping work
Fapping to fanfiction isn't "making gay shipping work"
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>>95029425
Lmao are you serious? N52 Deathstroke was trash not even sometimes fun trash that N52 RHATO was.
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>>95029425
>Prefers N52 Outlaws over rebirth
>Prefers n52 Deathstroke over rebirth
My god, man!

Have you tried "America"?
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>>95029108
The good thing is this just annual which means that it will never be acknowledged again.
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>>95029497
If it makes you feel better it doesn't always work positively, everyone regrets Korrasami.
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>>95029314

Those people are wrong and should be shamed
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>>95029504
Yes I have. It's also spineless, neutered shit like Rebirth, but with random Babelfish Spanish.
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>>95029413
But he can do that now. The Batfam accepts all sorts of past and current shady people. Jason being a black sheep makes no damn sense
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>>95029454
Circus Jason didn't care much about Dick or even talk about him.
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>>95029589
No version of Jason ever did which is why people keep pointing that Jason was really occ in the annual.
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>>95029571
The black sheep angle serves to differentiate Jason from the rest of the Batfam. Without it, he becomes too similar
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>>95029564
I thought edgelords like you didn't exist anymore. Heh, the more you know...

Maybe you should read some Sentry by Bendis, then. It has a lot of blood and gore and violence and all. You will have the time of your life.
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>>95029564
>spineless, neutered shit like Rebirth
I can understand why you liked Nu52 Outlaws and Deathstroke then
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>>95029682
more like this
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>>95029371
>>95028977
Why do people ship this, honestly? Like, it's incest, which /co/ loves, but also gay, which /co/ hates, so why?
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>>95029840
>/co/
>not gay
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>>95029481
>> Lobdell gives Jason a school girl crush on Dick, a guy who's done nothing for him

Actually it's worse than that. Dick didn't just do nothing for Jason. Dick actively went against Jason. Dick was the harshest and meanest to Jason when he came back from the dead (and years after that).
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>>95029625
I don't agree with this because Jason has a lot of things that differentiate him from the rest.

The problem isn't whether the batfamily should accept him or not (they will be a bunch of hypocrites if they didn't), the problem is that the writers keep sacrificing his character for them which is why a lot of his fans want them away from him.
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>>95028873
>But I agree with this dude >>95028819 because just look at how bad the annual is.
I liked quite a lot. Annuals are often trivial stuff. This at least gave us some character interactions, which is cool, and some action, which is also cool.
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>>95028462
I don't dislike it, but I don't like it either.
Probably because Soy's art spoiled me so much.
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>>95028976
You realise that most of the time, of not all, Jason was talking about how he felt, right? Not how he feels now.
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>>95029840
Well it's not real incest, they barely even lived in the same house.

But I'll read porn of most things with adult characters. Doesn't really matter.
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>>95029219
Jason is often dramatic with his exposition. Not always, but you can see that it's certainly a character trait. He is a drama queen.
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>>95029891
>the problem is that the writers keep sacrificing his character for them which is why a lot of his fans want them away from him
This guy get it.

The claim that only "killing" set him apart is such a dumb one because Jason isn't one dimensional character with no personality or history. You just need to keep the bat family away from him and he is good.
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>>95029232
You can say that Pre and Post Batman Inc were different characters by how they behave. I suspect they told Morrison to calm the crazy villanness with him.
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>>95029589

The people who are fine with this clearly have not read anything with Jason in it outside Rebirth (or even Nu52).
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>>95029314
Not in the places I usually go.
I dunno, anon. Maybe it depends of the place.
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>>95029314
I can understand if they liked UtRH or Morrison Jason when he was actually an antagonist and put his money where his mouth was. But New 52 Jason was a whiny edgelord who didn't have the balls to do what he did preFP/
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>>95029886
Maybe Lobdell Thinks Jason is a masochist?
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>>95029413
Jason has more to him that "DUH, I KILL PEOPLE, DUH".
Oh, come on. For starters, he's the most hard worker, and the one who has to deal with most complexes out of the whole family. And has a pretty nice personal background with his stuff with multiversed earths and magic stuff.
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>>95029448
We are lazy.
The cool stuff requires more power.
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>>95030107
>New 52 Jason was a whiny edgelord
I actually disgree with this, but I'm not in the mood to agrue about this
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>>95029942

Jason never even talked about feeling like that about Dick in the past before. Jason was never so gushy over Dick before/when he became Robin.
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>>95029481
> School girl crush

I was trying to figure out why he was acting so off and yeah it's this. He's acting like this. If Jason was a girl then this would make sense
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>>95030077
Not anywhere is large numbers from what I see either.
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>>95029497
Lets be honest most shipping is just fanfic based on tiny things that will never happen in canon. If people want to push JayDick one sided and hard on Agee examples to do so then they aren't really wrong
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>>95029840
>it's incest, which /co/ loves,
That's /a/ tho.

>but also gay, which /co/ hates, so why?
We like gay, tho.
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>>95030122

Maybe Jason has Stockholm syndrome.
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>>95030182
> If Jason was a girl

They would've banged already
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>>95029942
>Jason was talking about how he felt, right? Not how he feels now
You are actually right about this. Kid Jason admired THE IDEA of what kid Dick represent to him and the Jason who meet Dick after being Robin doesn't actually admire him.

Though, I still agree with the anons who said that Dick was given more credits than he deserves in the annual.
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>>95030182
That's probably where the gay comes from. If this was a girl speaking then yes it would be viewed in a romantic light. But they aren't gay and are brothers so it's just strong admiration
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>>95029840
>but also gay, which /co/ hates, so why?

Are you new?
/co/ is almost the gayest board.
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>>95029891
>The problem isn't whether the batfamily should accept him or not (they will be a bunch of hypocrites if they didn't), the problem is that the writers keep sacrificing his character for them which is why a lot of his fans want them away from him.
That I can understand it. But usually it's the natural outcome when you have a C-lister showing up in an A-lister o A-team book as a one time thing or as a secondary character to the main story. It's not the batfamily themselves.
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>>95030287
Ehh I think it could read either way. That you've been a hero to me doesn't imply only in the past.
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>>95030287
Kek, anon you just killed the "Jason is tsundere for Dick!" meme. I like you.
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>>95030371
He really didn't because 1) when has shipping ever made sense and 2) I honk you can argue that's jason still feels that way since he called Dick for help without really needing it and the look they shared and saying that he owes Dick credit. We can it's ooc but it is what's on the page
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>>95027485

Because all Timfags are literally fags
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>>95030291
>and are brothers

Not really.
They both got taken in by Bruce (Bruce adopted Jason). Barely spoke to each other. Then Jason died, came back, and Dick treated him shit. Jason and Dick then tried to kill each other on a regular basis but put aside their differences. They weren't raised together.
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>>95030181
He did recently, I'm pretty sure, even if I cannot remember when. He did talked about Dick with respect and even some admiration, but I cannot remember if it was in a Batbook, the n52 outlaws or even an event thing. But I swear I read at least twice of him in that direction.

And there is the whole thing of his complex with him not being able to fill Dicks shoes, that could come not only from Bruce, but from his own perceptions about the former Robin.

I can really buy it, anon. Not that far fetched for me.
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>>95030287
Finally someone get it. I know /co/ is freaking dumb, but come on.
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>>95030472
>He did recently, I'm pretty sure, even if I cannot remember when. He did talked about Dick with respect and even some admiration
I read all of Jason's recent book and I can confirm that he never did.
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>>95030463
Well they view each other as brothers now so that's what counts
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>>95030287
>Though, I still agree with the anons who said that Dick was given more credits than he deserves in the annual.
I can agree with that too. Dick was a self righteous dick, as expected. But then again, Jason is showing self eastern issues, and I think Lobdell at least shoed Dick as admitting that he was a kind of shitty big brother figure.
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>>95030497
It's just shippers and dick fans who desperate who refuse to get it.
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>>95030519
I'm not going to put my hand into the iron, so I will take your word. But I swear I kind of remember reading something like that. Maybe I'm mixing it with Tim (even if I don't think so: but I'm helpless with this stuff).
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>>95030534

Well yeah, but I think trying to view each other as brothers isn't the same as genuinely being brothers.

>>95030472
>He did recently, I'm pretty sure, even if I cannot remember when. He did talked about Dick with respect and even some admiration, but I cannot remember if it was in a Batbook, the n52 outlaws or even an event thing. But I swear I read at least twice of him in that direction.

Was it like one panel where he being nice for the sake of being nice? Or are you thinking about fanfiction?
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>>95030643
I don't think it was that kind of panel. It probably was son inner monologue.
I don't read fanfiction.
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>>95030690
>son
I meant "some".
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>>95029448
But anon, there's nothing greater in this world than homolust.
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>ITT: Edgelords are mad that their patron saint is growing up and realizing how stupid it is to constantly try to look cool and edgy all the time.
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>>95028517
>>95028592
Gotta have to be a good example for Bizarro.
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>>95030835
this is why rebirth rhato is selling worse than new 52 rhato
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>>95030287
>Kid Jason admired THE IDEA of what kid Dick represent to him and the Jason who meet Dick after being Robin doesn't actually admire him
Bingo.
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>>95030915
are there any statistic and source to back that up?
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>>95030287
I think that what Lobdell actually intended. It's just his awkward dialogs made it a little bit hard to get it.
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>>95030977
That is a problem that does seem to crop up quite a bit in his dialogues.

That being said, hopefully the Annual stuff doesn't impact the main Rebirth issues too much. I like where it's going so far and if they can keep most of the other A-listers out it should still be, mostly, smooth-sailing.

>>95030718
I dunno anon. I think I lie the idea of having Artemis destroy Jason's pelvis more
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>>95030835
>realizing how stupid it is to constantly try to look cool and edgy all the time.

But he was still trying to look cool/edgy while in the circus. What's terrible is that he's acting like a schoolgirl with a crush on someone he normally doesn't completely like.
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>>95031160
He doesn't sound like a school girl. He sounds like a dude asking for help from a man he tried to murder.
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>>95031128
>hopefully the Annual stuff doesn't impact the main Rebirth issues too much
I don't think it will be acknowledged again to be honest.
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>>95031251
Nah brah it sounded like homolust which is why the annual fails
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>>95031251

Sure.
But both the pictures and the dialogue together make it look like he has a crush.
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>>95031360
This. Nobody is saying it's intentional just that it seems that way and it makes it funny/ strange
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>>95031324
That is probably the best course of action to take. However, while Lobdell has done well with Rebirth so far, I think somewhere down the line he won't be able to help himself and will feel the need to reference it once or twice.
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>>95030915
n52 only sold bc of slutfire
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Is no one going to bring up that Dick wanted to adopt Jason?
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>>95031696
How old were they here?
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>>95031696

Oh yeah!
Too bad after this Dick didn't really interact with Jason much and neither of them cared about each other outside of "Oh yeah I know you!".

Or at least that's what I think I remember.
Dick felt responsible for Jason's parents being murdered by Killer Croc. Which is why he wanted to adopt him.

>>95031774

What's interesting is that they look a lot closer in age in those pages.
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>>95030935
http://www.comicsbeat.com/dc-comics-month-to-month-sales-july-2017-the-die-is-cast/

>07/2012: Red Hood & Outlaws #11 -- 35,820
>06/2017: Red Hood & Outlaws #11 -- 25,185
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everytime i see this i have nightmares , the glorious master ''rock'' conquer or worlds
>>
Another Jason thread pushed to the limit and also derailed by gay talk. Good job guys
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>>95032828
We aim to please
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>>95032828
Jason's not that good of a character, so you shouldn't be surprised that people only give a fuck about the porn.
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