What did Mike Mignola mean by this?

What about the white chick who became a greasy looking black chick, though?

At least he's JK Rowling.

Bitch flip flops on everything and people praise her like the second coming of Jesus.

Why's a white guy writing Asian characters in the first place? It's not his place to appropriate whatever culture he feels like.

>>94973661
>>94973688
Here's a better question: WHY DID THESE SJWS LITERAL FAGGOTS NOT CARE WHEN THEY TURNED THE ASIAN DUDE FROM IRON FIST INTO A WHITE BITCH?

>>94973735
not*

>>94973741
They did care, but the reasons were "muh China" so...

>>94973741

Because they don't actually read comics

>>94973741

Iron Fist was always white..

>>94973779
Going by "white bitch," that anon mixed up Iron Fist with the Ancient One from Dr. Strange.

>>94973661
Why did /co/ praise Michelle Rodriquez when she said she'd never play Green Lantern because Green Lantern is a white man? Why do they hate actors standing up for comics accuracy now?

>>94973790
In that case tons of people complained about it.

>>94973741
You yourself don't care enough to know the characters name or even where he's really from.

>>94973779
assume they either mean, "alexandra". Sigourney weaver. who was created for the show. But still begs the question what a white women as doing in Kun lun as an elder..

Or... means The ancient one from Dr. strange.

I'm just going to stop coming to /co/ so I can enjoy things and not have twitter screencaps warp my perception of people by seeing them engage petty shit like this.

Time for a "people who don't read Hellboy bitch about casting choices" thread

>>94973845
Right, see you in the next Twitter thread, Anon.

Can we replace Chris Roberson with a better writer too?

>>94973800
Probably because that was before racebending. There's literally no problem with black people in comic book movies except for some racists but just fucking make them from scratch. Racebending is shitty.

>>94973741
What are you talking about?? They DID care.

>>94973910
It's called lying, a lot of people do it here

>/co/ is turning on Mike fucking Mignola because he's not /pol/
I've never been more disappointed in /co/ and more proud of Mignola

>>94973917
Don't worry, none of these people read his work anyway

>>94973879
>There's literally no problem with black people in comic book movies except for some racists but just fucking make them from scratch. Racebending is shitty.
This.

>>94973661
I don't know who Matt Murdog is, but they sound like a real piece of shit.

>>94973741
Because diverse means black, sometimes asian, and other races only if it's trendy, like when they bitch about the Washington Redskins every few years.

>A person in the comic industry is pretty liberal

How many fucking times do you people need it to happen before you pick up on a pattern and stop being shocked every time?

>>94973917
I'm more upset by people shitting on Mike for "letting it go this far".

>>94973917
>>94973934
I don't see people turning on him in this thread.

>>94973661
What's this about a Hellboy reboot?
All I'm getting is this whitewashing "controversy".

>>94973661
Mignola can't be more vocal when he's choking on lions gate money!

I'm usually very apathic to shot like this but this case does annoy me for two reasons:

1. Stupid twitter sjws are using it as another argument against Finn Jones quiting the Danny Rand tole. YES. AGAIN!

2. If it was the reverse, and Zasie, Elba or Tessa were leaving the Domino, Heimdall or Valkyrie roles, you can't bet your ass everyone would be bitching instead of celebrating shit

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>>94973661
How do you actually whitewash Hellboy?

I am confused. Someone explain it to me.

>>94974126
Eh, standalone (supposedly animated, but they've been weirdly contradictory about that) reboot without Perlman or Del Toro, currently still in pre-production.

>>94974158
They casted a white person to play an Asian dude. Where exactly are you having trouble?

>>94974163
>that
>whitewashing
fucking lmao

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>>94973661
Too bad the biggest problem in the movie still exists

>>94974200
>another redhead

>>94974163
Half-asian.

Which makes me wonder if the uninformed public would have had a problem if it had been Keanu Reeves. That would have been fantastic.

>>94974210
Even playing devil's advocate, I doubt it's impossible for them to find a redhead with freckles who can act.

>>94974237
No one casted in this production is a good actor anyway

>>94974280
Guess they're treating Hellboy as a pump 'n dump license.

>>94973661
You know if you think about it; if an Asian's biggest problem is representation in media, they must be doing pretty good for themselves as a whole.

>>94974280
>Ian McShane

>>94974237
redheads are less than 1% of america's population

>>94974323
so?

>>94973661
More white actors should step down from roles meant for non-white actor

And frankly they should step down from roles meant for white actors so non-white actors get a chance to really shine

>>94973741
It was because he was a villain.

>>94974355
So they should be given protected minority status.

>>94974635
Nice bait mate.

>>94974355
that means very very few redheaded actors who can actually act

>>94974323
Just hire Australians then, Hollywood is full of them anyway.

>>94974652

But they're white.

>>94974698
If they were an animal species, they'd be the target of an international preservation campaign.

>>94974635
Agreed but everyone here will call that bait, since /pol/ has engulfed the whole site

>>94973856
Is it okay if I complain that this whole thing just makes me nervous the movie is infected by politics from the outset and won't be nearly as good as the other two?

>>94974655
Yes /pol/ it's bait I'm actually a Nazianz just like you I'm just falseflagging as someone who actually cares about people of color and thinks they deserve more than just stereotypical roles

>>94974710

But the problem is, they're white. I mean, if they were PoC and had red hair, I'd agree with you.

>>94974729
If it's gonna be bad it sure as he'll won't be because Alice is black and Daimio is played by a Japanese guy

>>94974728
Why agreed? It makes no sense and it goes against racial equality.

>>94974736
Good to hear you love coloured people and want to make sure they need assistance to get what they want like the children they are.

>>94974736
WHITE MAN'S BURDEN
WHITE MAN'S BURDEN

Whites unselfishly sacrificing themselves for the good of the negro. Kipling would be proud.

>>94974728
>everything that goes against my world view /pol/
okay tumblr. I don't go to /pol/ and you're being retarded.

>>94974825
I think they're symptoms or signs, though. To me, the cast and crew of the movie care more about politics than about the movie itself. I have not seen one thing about the actual movie aside from """controversy""" over cast races. That does not bode well.

>>94974867
It has no ron pearlman or de toro it's shit. Just pretend it doesn't exist.

>>94974877
>no toro
fucking dropped.

>>94973739
fuck off gook.

>>94974877
Pearlman is overrated as Hellboy and Del Toro hasn't done a good movie in a decade.

>>94974877
The animated movies that Galloway worked on were pretty good.

>>94973661
I think it's fine that fans wanted a guy of Asian descent like the comic and the actor was a cool enough guy to acknowledge that race is an important trait for a character. The problem lies in how only whites are held accountable for this kind of thing.

>>94974867
Bitching is louder, everyone was happy with David Harbour and Ian McShane, indifferent to Mila Jovovich. Some minor plot details leaked. But you know, it's easier to get people who have no interest in the series to bitch about characters they've never heard of if you make it all racial.

>>94973917
disapointed in someone that will never know you or care about you?
Who gives a shit?

Anyway /co/ has always been /pol/
It's just the truth gets stifled by fay, annoying voices.

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>>94974908
I'll acknowledge that I liked the movie more than most people, but are you really going to claim that the film wasn't even "pretty good"?

>>94974919
I highly doubt there's a single actual fan of Hellboy who gave a shit about the actor's race.

>>94974951
I think Mike Mignola is probably a fan of his own work.

>>94973801
And the movie's writer called the SJWs out by name, saying that they didn't know what the fuck they were talking about

If the Ancient one was:
-Tibetan, China would freak out
-Chinese, Tibet would freak out
-Japanese/Korean, they would complain about interchangeable Asians
-Vietnamese/Indian/Mongol, more so, even though everyone forgets that they are also Asian

So they went with an EXCELLENT actress who looks like a fucking alien, and applied for feminist points by making possibly the most powerful character in the MCU a woman.

>>94974932
>/co/ has always been /pol/
As someone who's been here for over a decade, that's hilariously false. We're the most self-consciously un-manly board on the whole of 4chan.

>>94974989
>We
I don't really believe you've been here for a decade.

>>94974951
I gave a shit about it.

Which is why I don't like the racebent Negress and David Harbour being fucking Hellboy.

David Barbour is a fucking horrible choice. He sounds like a fruit.

>>94974908
>Del Toro hasn't done a good movie in a decade

Don't worry, he's getting right back on track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFYWazblaUA

>>94975052
I love how it's literally Abe Sapien the Movie.

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Can we get an actually white actress to play Alice, then?

Like, i'm not usually one to bitch about race changes in movies, but this one is a definite instance where a black actress doesn't make sense.

The character is known for being Irish from the late '50s, and eventually becomes the fae guardian of England. Her whole character is being heavily tied into British Isles mythology.

She should be white.

>>94975088
Yeah. They told him he couldn't do Hellboy and that they were going to reboot it with a different director, so he went off and did a backdoor "Not Abe Sapien" movie for Fox instead.

And judging by both the trailer and my prior knowledge about the love Del Taco has for that kind of character, I think it's going to be great and will probably blow Blood Queen out of the water.

>>94975111
The actress is half-white, mom's a kiwi.

>>94975143
So how does that make her a very Irish trope?

I mean not to be funny, but the Fae would probably be pretty particular about something like that.

>>94974989
>un-manly board on the whole of 4chan
It's a toss-up between /toy/, /y/ and /r9k/, retard. /y/ would probably be the unmanliest by virtue of its veterancy.

>>94975143
That doesn't really change the issue that Allice Monoghan literally becomes the Fae Guardian of England. And the entire idea of Prophecy and Bloodlines of the fae being a very English Mythos.

Honestly? This is like casting a White guy as Black Panther. It is LITERALLY interrupting the Mythos.

>>94975153
>Forgetting /cgl/
If you discount /toy/s doll threads, /cgl/ easily has the highest female population on the board.

>>94975124
Del Toro just has a hard on for the Creature from the Black Lagoon and when he hits an idea he likes he'll use it a bunch of times.

Just look at how much of his vampire ideas are recycled through Cronos, Blade 2 and the Strain.

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>>94974996
>>94975153
Son, I came here from /b/ when /co/ was barely a year old. I remember the days of Kosh's stupid rp-fagging and AtlA threads taking up the entire front page and Freehaven's furry bullshit and "/co/ is love" and that time we were blamed for crashing the site during a cooperative GET invasion with /m/ and MSPanon's weird fetishy speed requests and that time Warren Ellis did a Q&A and the glory days of /rs/ when any comic you could ever want was instantly available in CBR format without ever leaving the site and the rise/fall of plus4chan and Dave's Bleeding Cunt and /an/'s attempt to invade us by sending two guys with puppy pictures to "flood" the board and that time we were all fucked when the Hulk got back.

I didn't fight in the Homestuck and MLP wars so young ingrates like you could tell me what's what, I tell you what. Hrumph.

...but yeah, I suppose the influences of /tv/ and /pol/ have changed /co/. We no longer have any sort of female userbase, for one thing.

>>94975197
>Empathic kind-hearted Deep One

Pretty much is Abe anon.

>>94975197
Yeah, it's true. I'm just excited to see what he'll do now that he's been given a movie that'll focus solely on his beloved Fish Man.

>>94973661
Dude was too young for Daimio anyway.

>>94975212
I'm saying it's not like he just wants to make an Abe Sapien movie to stick it to anyone. He's just "holy shit I love making movies about weird fishmen".

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>>94974989
>/pol/
>manly
They've forgotten the face of their fathers.

>>94975208
>we

>>94975182
/cgl/ used to be the board where dudes would post shit to try to spot upskirts or panty shots, nip slips, sideboob, or anything else that they could fap to. Like most of the site, it's been infiltrated by betafag white knights who think defending virtual characters that in so doing will give them pity sex points to somehow trade with a tangible female.

/co/ is love was a brotherhood bond, not because somehow loving someone is "unmanly" you underage fuck.

>>94974222
Ed skrein is not half Asian.

>>94974916
if it's an animated movie then I don't get these casting choices mattering at all. This movie seems like something to keep the rights rather than a labor of love. Say what you will about del toro but he made it because he liked the material.

>>94974919
Why does it matter when they don't even care what kind of asian it is? It may surprise people but asians aren't interchangeable.

>>94975261
I personally think that it's a little bit of both desu, at least on some level. Abe was clearly his favorite in the Hellboy movies, due to his love of Black Lagoon-esque characters, and he probably had a bunch of ideas while working on those movies. When he got the boot, he probably just said "Fuck it" and reworked them into their own thing.

I don't necessarily think it was a spite kind of thing so much as it was a "I'm gonna make a bootleg Abe Sapien movie because I can get away with it."

>>94974951
I highly doubt you can speak for hellboy fans.

>>94975301
>used to be
Today, it's 90 perecent girls being catty with eachother about whether a dress counts as real lolita or not.

>>94975150
>>94975181
The ONE thing I will give them is that this Alice is being altered from the one in the comics to be different. She's a BPRD agent with the abilities of that one asian agent from Hellboy & the BPRD.

But still, if this really is a loose adaptation of The Storm & The Fury, and Alice is supposed to be anywhere close to the Alice Monaghan from the comics, her not being white at the least is just nonsensical. I don't care if the actress is full blooded Irish or not, but shit. Get someone who can portray that.

What's Ygritte up to nowadays, besides fucking Kit Harrington?

>>94974944
It's fine, but it's quippy, quirky action garbage that went on to define Marvel movies. It's entertaining, but it is absolutely nothing like the comics I know and love. That whole Liz subplot is a fucking tragedy.

>>94975318
He didn't know the reboot was being made until after Shape of Water was written

>>94975124
>They told him he couldn't do Hellboy and that they were going to reboot it with a different director, so he went off and did a backdoor "Not Abe Sapien" movie for Fox instead.
are you stupid or something?

I really don't care who is cast as who as long as they can act.

>>94975284
>are

>>94975318
It's weird to say Abe was his favorite when he did the character completely wrong. Since when is Abe an empathic puss

>>94975301
>brotherhood bond
It was a circlejerk and you know it.

>>94975379
What's the difference? Men think with their dicks, a pure and noble sentiment. Enjoying the company of others whose dicks have guided them to the same thing to wich your own dick guided you, is the ultimate in bond that should be as unbreakable and steadfast as our boners.

Instead we let our friendship go flaccid when the lowtest faggots, who never truly understood us because they put the pussy on a pedestal, began to bitch about what we liked and thus tear us down.

>>94975333
This really ruins my hopes for the movie. I was really onboard with an R rating, David Harbour, and getting to see my boy Daimo. I'm willing to bend a little to have both Hellboy and Daimo at the same time. But the weird changes to Alice do not bode well at all.

>>94973661
He means he wants his characters accurately played and comic accurate like the rest of us evidently do if the whole shit with Domino is anything to go off.

>>94975379
it got really annoying after awhile but it's better than /pol/ coming here every day. I wish we had better fucking mods. I'm getting sick of the thinly veiled bullshit threads.

>>94975431
So where's his statement about Alice?

>>94975411
>>94975333
>>94975181
>>94975150
>>94975111
>>94975021
>>94974200
>>94975431
>>94975444

Okay, negress comments aside this is a important discussion for the casting of the movie. The Daimio change shows that these people are willing to alter the casting decisions based on online feedback. How do we get this conversation to the right people?

Framing it in a light of ENTIRELY the character's English heritage being key to her person and the hypocrisy of adjusting casting along racial lines in one direction and not the other is the way to do it, but how and where? Twitter? Tweet at that casting director, Mike, the actress, etc.,?

>>94975444
Being white isn't important to her character bit being Japanese-america was central to Ben Daimo's character.

>>94975467
>Being white isn't important to a character who's whole deal is being brought up by Fae Folk in Ireland in the '60s and eventually becomes Queen of the Faeries

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>>94973661
4chan is LIVID over this, whew

>>94975454
That wouldn't work at all, as long as Alice was a baby kidnapped by fairies then the character's trait has been filled.

>>94975481
there are black people in Ireland you know

>>94975483
>not being livid over obvious racial double standards
fuck off, faggot

>>94975481
Did I s-s-stutter anon? Nothing about that demands to be white.

>>94975498
You have to go back.

>>94975498
Aren't Irish black people as rare as redheads in Ireland?

>>94975498
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_in_Ireland

1.42% after a "boom" in the late '90s. We're talking about the '50s and '60s here. Yes there were black people there back then but you'd be just as likely to find 'em as you would whites in China.

>>94975454
I have no clue, honestly. I think logic is so far out of the question we may as well not bother. We just had an actor step down for whitewashing a half-Asian character, while another is getting the fucking X-men treatment where they slap a familiar name and another character's power on an actor who looks like neither. There's no way they don't see it already, they just don't care.

I also can never spell Daimio's name right without checking

>>94975481
>>94975498
And Sasha Lane is very light-skinned so it's not even that noticeable.

>>94975526
Just tell these tumblr faggots to go back I'm fucking sick of engaging them at this point. They make up any nonsensical excuse as to why some race changes are fine and others aren't.

>>94975504
>>94975526

>people actually getting mad that he dropped out when just a week a ago here they were bitching about his casting

>People getting mad because he dropped out even though it was HIS choice to do so in the first place.

>people bringing up Black actors because "reasons"

>people failing to see that many non White actors in particular Asians get shafted in Hollywood

>People getting mad over some Tumblrfags getting mad that Iron Fist wasn't Asian

>Yet are completely OK with years of Asian roles ( even when it comes to movies based on real events like "21" having Whites in Asian role or that time John Wayne played Ghengis fucking Khan) for decades.

>People getting mad at the few movies and roles with non Whites when there are millions of movies with Whites out that they can watch.

>>94975566
>>>/Tumblr/

>>94975566
I'm getting mad because it's called source material. Racebending is shitty. Just make up a different character.

>>94975526
>We're talking about the '50s and '60s here.

yeah, but when have the Hellboy movies been accurate to that detail?

>>94975566
People are mad that such a minor issue is overshadowing the huge issue of Alice's entire character, not just her casting. It's all wrong. Completely wrong.

You put a lot of work into that condescending greentext, though, so good for you.

>>94975566
>people bringing up Black actors because "reasons"
Isn't that because they're trying to point out the double standard in the casting?

>>94975541
>And Sasha Lane is very light-skinned so it's not even that noticeable.
It's very noticeable. She's supposed to be an out-and-out ginger.

>>94973879
That happened last year newfag. Rodriguez is also a dumbass because the GL people were suggesting she play is Latina.

>>94975566
I'm happy we might get an Asian actor for Ben. His cultural and racial heritage is a big part of his character.

I just want it to also happen for Alice.

>>94975566
>people failing to see that many non White actors in particular Asians get shafted in Hollywood
Oh boo hoo, poor Asians.
Meanwhile, Hispanics/Latinos, Pacific Islanders, Native Americans/First Nations, Middle Eastern people have even less representation than even Asians.

>>94975614
No she was just smart and new it would be an even bigger trainwreck than the original.

>>94975598
>It's all wrong. Completely wrong.
Did something more specific come out? Because all I've seen is people going on about the race, justified criticism or not.

>>94975566
You know, with Asians being the most successful minority group in America, you'd think that representation wouldn't be such a touchy subject with them.

>>94975598
Yet the discussion revolves entirely on her skin color.

>>94975564
But Sasha Lane is white-passing. Dye her hair red and this whole argument is laid to rest.

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>>94975558
^He's right, you know.

>>94975604
Her being ginger isn't important.

>>94975694
Weak.

>>94975566
Did it ever occur to you that the reason you see so little Asians in media is because they would prefer jobs in medicine and science?

>>94975672
And Ed Skrein already has slanty eyes, just give him a tan and he's good to go, argument put to rest.

>>94975672
>>94975673
She doesn't look white passing at all.
Skin tone aside, her facial features skew closer to African or Pacific Islander.

>>94975634
>>94975647

>>94975333

>>94975704
And that makes it okay for asian actors only getting token roles? B.D. Wong is amazingly good actor, just look at him in Oz, Law and Order or as Hugo Strange in Gotham, yet he's barely got any significant roles, even after several decades as a beloved character actor.

>>94975714
The difference between Alice and Daimo is Daimo's Race play a big part of his character. What Matters for Alice is not that she's white but that she's irish and was kidnapped by fairies as a baby.
TRY AGAIN YOU STUPID FUCK.

>>94973661
Oh for fucks sake do these people never stop bitching

>>94975750
Oh well that's pretty dumb then. Why even make her the same character then?

>>94975750
What's nonsensical about not being white and Irish?

>>94973775
Yeah that's another thing most of the people bitching don't actually read the damn book but complain when they don't cast the right actor

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The character in question since no one can be assed to post what he looks like.

>>94975767
Try to get more Asians in Hollywood then.

Oh wait, they'd prefer to have successful and satisfying careers in fields that could help people rather than go to Hollywood to prove a point.

>>94975785
Being white and Irish actually is kind of a big deal in this case. The bigger issue, however, is putting her on the team and giving her different powers. Allegedly for the latter point.

>>94975767
Why would the race or skin color of an actor matter?

The fact that you brought up the fact that he's Asians shows you care more for his ethnicity than his acting skills.

>>94975815
>Being white and Irish actually is kind of a big deal in this case
No, not really.

>>94975803
I imagine most of us don't actually need a reminder. I thought Skrein would have looked fine with make-up. I think you need someone with a more "army" look than Japanese desu

Also, can we talk about fucking Milla J as the Nimue? Why?

>>94975767
>as a beloved character actor
Beloved by who?
I've never even heard of the guy.

>>94975842
Blew all the acting money on Ian McShane

>>94975832
>Why would the race or skin color of an actor matter?
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ASIAN REPRESENTATION IN AMERICAN MEDIA
BECAUSE HOLLYWOOD USED TO CAST WHITE GUY FOR ASIAN ROLES
BECAUSE DAVID CARRIDAN WAS MADE FAMOUS BY A ROLE THAT WAS LITERALLY CREATED FOR BRUCE LEE BY BRUCE HIMSELF
KEEP THE FUCK UP ANON

>>94975785
>>94975835
>>94975769

The character is entirely wrapped up in old English & British Isles mythology. She becomes the queen of the Faerie Folk and protector of England.

That's a white role.

Or would you be totally okay with a white character being raised in Africa, getting himself raised by their figures of cultural myths and stories, and getting named mystical protector of that region?

It'd be dumb either way.

>>94975881
>That's a white role.
No it's not.

>>94975877
Holy shit.
Are you autistic?

>>94975835
Care to explain your position, then? You can offer all the "nuh uh"s you want, but the fact remains that the character no longer matches the associated mythology. If we had a character raised by the Loa I'd be irritated if they were white.

>>94975897
Elaborate please.

>>94975881
white people aren't the only people in those countries genius

>>94975694
>her being a ginger isn't important
>for an irish changeling

>>94975881
>would you be totally okay with a white character being raised in Africa, getting himself raised by their figures of cultural myths and stories, and getting named mystical protector of that region?
OH YOU MEAN LIKE TARZAN ANON? OR ANY TARZAN IMITATORS? HOLY SHIT YOU DUMB FUCK YOU'RE LITERALLY DESCRIBING ONE OF THE FAMOUS CHARACTER IN WESTERN CANON YOU DUMB SHIT.

>>94975881
>That's a white role.
Doesn't have to be.

>Or would you be totally okay with a white character being raised in Africa, getting himself raised by their figures of cultural myths and stories, and getting named mystical protector of that region?

If it wasn't treated as a white messiah savior trope and made him a local afrikaans, then yeah. Tarzan works when you write him properly as a lord of the jungle and not just as awesome white aristocratic dude in Africa.

>>94975881
I feel like it would be a good opportunity to examine what culture and tradition means in an ever shrinking world where people from wildly disparate regions can come into contact more easily than every before. Perhaps shine some light on the fact that people always liked to move around, though never so commonly or frequently as now. Juxtaposition two such people in two such places would be a nice way to also do some interesting comparisons between traditions, morals, and current circumstances.

I wouldn't trust anybody with the idea in this climate, though.

>>94975903
>>94975926
Ireland is not a white only country and the only thing that matters is that she gets kidnapped by fairies.

>>94975929
Tarzan was raised by deities? I thought he was raised by jungle animals.

>>94975920
No, just overwhelmingly the majority, and if you go back a number of decades to where Alice's character was originally set, ludicrously so.

>>94975906
Fairies and Gods and spirits have no race.

>>94975317
Neither are whites but no one's gonna split hairs over a slav character looking too Nordic. Maybe a Mediterranean.

>>94974932

Out of all the "/co/ has always been X" posts I've seen, this one is the dumbest. Too bad you're not right.

>>94975832
I'm pointing his ethnicity up because he's a great actor only getting small roles due to limited options in what asian actors are offered.

>>94975926
>>94975972
Can you stop shitposting you blatant retard?

>>94975972
Characters intrinsically tied to English myth shouldn't be English?

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>>94973661
FUCK YOU MIKE "TWO FACED" MIGNOLA

>>94975958
It's 99% white and a young woman of her complexion would have a widely different experience when compared to a redhead white girl. Now, if this was accounted for and we were given a story about how she accepts this country as hers, despite her superficial differences with the people, and despite and prejudice she received, that would be a really cool story. But that isn't what's going to happen. Hell, I bet $10 they take Ireland out of the equation completely

>>94976124
She will be Irish, just not white.

>>94976171
>She will be Irish
>just not white
Pick one.

>>94976128
BTFO

>>94973741
Which character are you referring to?

>>94976163
>It's 99% white and a young woman of her complexion would have a widely different experience when compared to a redhead white girl.
That's irrelevant for Alice though, as a character that is.

>>94975881
You'd probably find plenty of salty English people that would argue that isn't even an Irish role

>>94976171
So why couldn't Skrein be a white Asian? Those exist in higher numbers than black Irish.

>>94976189
I'll pick two because you don't know anything avout ireland.

>>94973741
People would've had to watch ironfist first.

>>94976171
It's a 98% white country, and if you go back a few decades it's almost 100% white. Then, if you follow history back longer to where these myths and cultural stories come from, it's completely entirely white.

It's not racist at all to point out the plain and simple fact that historically, Ireland's been pretty fucking white.

>>94976224
Then we're getting into a discussion about the source material which is different.

>>94976226
Because him being japanese-American is central to the character.

>>94976210

Well previously it was irrelevant, but with a race change it SHOULD be relevant, narratively speaking. Otherwise, if there's literally nothing else changed and nothing new explored, what's the point?

>>94974971
>-Tibetan, China would freak out
Yeah showed them
>kowtowing to the market was the most important thing, who cares about the work in question
Showed them.

>>94976232
So I take it a white European born in an Arab country is an Arab, then? Rofl. Genetically speaking, the actress playing Alice is not Irish. Genetically speaking, neither is Skrein a Japanese-American, but that's bad and he should drop out because muh genetic accuracy.

>>94976269
>>94976276
Sasha lane is white passing.

>>94976312
And Ed Skrein could easily be yellow-passing, with the same amount of makeups they'd apply to Sasha.

>>94976293
If they were born in arab country they wouldn't be European.

My judgment will depend entirely on whether or not they have the decency to at least still make her a ginger.

>>94976210
It's really not, though. It fundamentally changes her experience as a character in that environment. The character we know as Alice would not exist as she appeared in the comics if she were another race. Her childhood in Ireland would be drastically different. Her adulthood would be different.

A red headed white women in mid 1900s Ireland is going to have a very different perspective and experience to a girl of different race

>>94976332
I was born in Hong Kong to two English parents who were living there for work. I guess I'm not English, but Asian. Thanks for clearing up my racial genetics, anon.

>>94976328
Sasha lane can't help that she's light-skinned.

>>94976272
Elaborate. How is it more important than Alice's heritage in a way that it makes it literally impossible for him to be white.

>>94976361
What does this statement have to do with anything?

>>94974971
More importantly If they cast an Asian of any type people would be upset that it's the wise Asian elder dies so the white man gets their position.

They literally had no good options.

In this case of this guy it probably benefit him more to drop out as far as getting notoriety than moving forward with the role.

With Swinton or ScarJo, they won't take a hit no matter how many people bitch. In fact it seemed like Swinton didn't take any flack because most of the people that complained about the casting love her for being fucking weird.

>>94975621
>Native Americans

Well to be fair you people murdered most of them so there probably aren't many left to act

>>94976360
Well yeah that it works. If you were born and raised in Hong kong, have a honk kpng birth certificate, spoke the language, made friends, live your life as a hong kong citizen then you wouldn't be english at all.

>>94976360
I assume HK was still British governed soil at the time, so yeah, you wouldn't technically be Chinese.

>>94975806
Oh is THAT why you see many Asian American actors/singers going to either China or Korea to find success in the movie and music industries over there?

Really makes you think.

>>94976402

My people didn't murder Native Americans.

>>94976403
But his parents and home life were still likely fundamentally English. He would be treated differently than his peers due to skin color and tea-times alone.

>>94976367
Because Alice's heirtage doesn't matter. What matters is that she was kidnapped by fairies as a baby. Daimo's herotage because his grandmother was a imperial Japanese occultist. Him being a BRPD agent and being involved in the paranormal is intrinsically linked to his Japanese heritage.

>>94976425
Same, I'm not a smallpox

>>94976442
>herotage
That's a typo but it works.

>>94976442

Yeah, but the characters are being altered anyway, so what's one more change?

>>94976344
>It fundamentally changes her experience as a character in that environment
No it doesn't because that's irrelevant. The only thing that matters about Alice's character is that she was touched by fairies as a baby.

>>94976442
>Daimo's herotage because his grandmother was a imperial Japanese occultist
I'm still not seeing anything there that screams that he has to be Japanese. Why couldn't he be an adopted white guy?

>>94976442
Her Irish heritage is important actually, she was kidnapped by Celtic faeries and Grugach is also of Irish origin. Mignolaverse is steeped in cultural folklore.

>>94976455
Daimo hasn't been altered as a character, now if anything he's more accurate to his comic book counterpart.

>>94976490
How about you read the comics to find out?

>>94976442
Couldn't they make him a quarter Japanese?

>>94976490
HE HAS TO BE BIOLOGICALLY RELATED TO HIS JAPANESE WITCH GRANDMOTHER BECAUSE THE PARANORMAL HAS TO BE IN HIS BLOOD.
HE HAS TO BE RELATED TO THIS JAPANESE WITCH FOR HIS CHARACTER TO WORK.

>>94974832
theres a difference between "equality" and "justice" things aren't really equal as it is, but the problem isn't their inequality as much as their injustice.
people of color deserve to see themselves represented in the media

>>94976403
I wasn't born and raised there. They had 7 months left on their work visa and requiements. My mum got pregnant much earlier than they expected, thus I was born in Hong Kong. I was only there for a year before I lived in England. But by you retarded logic I am Asian LOL

>>94976537
It would still be whitewashing for Ed skrein to play Ben Daimo even if he was quarter Japanese.

>>94976565
Ah, but Alice being light enough to pass is totally fine.

>>94976553
Then why even mention Hong Kong m8? Your situation ain't even close to the one we're talking about.

>>94976549
first world problems

>>94976486
>>94976442
Alice has more interactions with the Fae Folk than just being kidnapped by Gruagach as a baby.

She's more or less raised by them, continuing to interact with them and connect with her deep, rich cultural heritage throughout her growth and development. She doesn't look so young when she's ~60-70 because of one incident when she was a baby, but because her whole life has been steeped in these creatures from English cultural myth.

>>94976549

Why?

>>94976402
>you people
What did he mean by this?

>>94976588
Because her race doesn't matter.

>>94976631
Americans.

>>94976068
Not really.
There are more factors to getting roles than just race. Your ethnicity would probably be the sixth most important to getting into Hollywood.

>>94976633
Fuck off you piece of shit.

>>94976603
The fairies themselves are not english.

>>94976646
Right, because we all know Native Americans were getting along just fine without the white man.

>>94976646
Anon, there were no Americans when the natives were being killed off.

>>94976671
And that's excuses the genocide?

>>94976442
Say I agree with you on the Daimo front, why is it not also applicable to a person in a country that is majority white using mythology that is white?

There is an active attempt to remove all redheads from comics media. Even Archie looks fucking stupid with his shitty dye job. He's one of the few left.

Wait til the next X-man reboot makes Jean a strong black afroed woman. Tumblr will argue there are black people with red hair in some country in Africa but they won't make any effort to change her hair and we'll be expected to take it because white people deserve it.

This story keeps repeating itself. This redhead minority, and it is a real minority of people in the world-not just the US, is getting erased from media because they are seen as less important than black people.

>>94976661
They're Irish in fact

>>94976633
And I think we found the fundamental disagreement here.

This character, Alice, is tied extremely heavily to English cultural myth.

Some of us believe that her portrayal should have the same race as is overwhelmingly predominant in the culture and location from which she is born.

You, and perhaps some others because this is an Anonymous board after all, do not find that to be important.

My two cents are that race and culture are heavily tied together, particularly when going into the well for historical cultural myths. Since this character is a representative of that realm of myth, I feel she should have the same race that she was originally depicted as, one that is immediately identifiable with the region she is from, and becomes a big figure in.

Why do normies complain when the character don't have the same race than the one in the comics and when we complain about the character not being the same as in the comics we get said "It's not the same universe, nobody care" ? How can they keep getting away with it ?

>>94976700
No but to say the white man was 100% responsible for killing the Natives is stupid.

When did this suddenly become about American history?

So how about those Hellboy comics

>>94976930
I want to re-read Daimio's fight with the Wendigo badly, but I can't find it. I lost my electronic comic collection with my hard drive. The only thing I really miss from it is Hellboy, although now I'm going to get those badass hardcover collections

>>94973661
what a fucking sell out, i hope this abomination of film crash and burn

>>94973917
>not leting holywood butcher your lifes work make you /pol/
wew

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>/co/ somehow rationalising both this turn of events and casting some halfie to play a redhead

So this... Is the power... Of Tumblr...

>>94974200
If they get rid of the dreads, she's definitely passing.

>>94977480
>hey internet. Thank you for your voices
If /co/ bands together can we stop red head genocide?

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Can you believe this horseshit? Every time a white person gets replaced they cheer it on. And /co/ rationalizes it every single time. Sickening. Pissening.

>>94974971
>If the Ancient one was:
>-Tibetan, China would freak out

no they wouldn't. this is a dumb idea. china does not deny the existence of tibet.

>-Chinese, Tibet would freak out

unlikely, and why would hollywood care about that? losing out on all those sweet tibetbucks?

i don't care about whitewashing but you people buy these cheap PR excuses too easily.

>>94977543
>>94977480
Jesus Christ, to think I was defending this movie from those Del Taco cocksuckers. Alice was a warning sign, Milla was toeing the line, but this is too much. If it's get me a better, more accurate Daimio I'll be happy, but this doesn't bode well. We all know this has nothing to do with remaining true to the comics

>>94977543
You'll get over it

>>94977619
I guess I'll just get a Dodge Challenger to cope with this.

>>94976128
Fucking cunt

>>94977605
You realize saying that tibet should be free from china is enough to get jailed in china right? And implying a character is tibetan and not chinese is a statement that they are distinct.

And making the tibetan character chinese would be racist

>>94973917
hello newshihead. Go away to facebook with your norman shit. Don't act like this website must be "muh tolerance" and shit. If this is bait, 10/10 made me mad.

This isn't a big deal

Ben Daimaio's race was essential to the character while Alice's race wasn't. There are non whites in Ireland and England you know.

>>94977686
>You realize saying that tibet should be free from china is enough to get jailed in china right?

this is irrelevant

>And implying a character is tibetan and not chinese is a statement that they are distinct.

implying a character is tibetan doesn't imply they are not chinese. that would be like saying that having a texan character implies that character is not american, or a scottish character implies they are not british. tibet is an autonomous region of china. more importantly, tibetans are one of the 56 ethnic groups recognised by china.

if they were really desperate they could have made the character bhutanese or nepalese and nobody would have noticed. but they wanted tilda swinton and i can respect that, just not their dumb excuses.

>>94977747
>if a character is white their race isn't important
>if a character isn't white their race is important
Every time.

>>94975621
>Hispanics/Latinos
>less than Asians
I doubt this is true considering how many of them can pass as white, black or mixed and people couldn't really tell the difference. Plus all those groups are smaller minorities in america

>>94977844
In this case it literally is, but you don't read comics so...

>>94977905
Name white characters whose race is essential to their character.

>>94977402
I honestly thought she was white from her thumbnail on imdb and i had no idea what people were talking about. She's part pacific islander too, should we even call her black? People the see the Rock like that before they see him as black.

>>94977905
There are people in this thread who clearly have read the comics and made a series of arguments as to why her race is important. The only response received was "her race is not important because it's not".

Of course, you'll respond to the one idiot instead of actually engaging in conversation with someone making well phrased arguments instead

>>94974200
They both pass, just say his character is 3/4s white and dye her hair orange, maybe have her carry a potato everywhere.

>>94977508
>comics and cartoons
dont think so mate

>>94977619
you would be surpised for how long i can hold my grudge

>>94973735
>>94973744

he is though.
go back 2 weeks and his tweets are excited about Skrein being involved.

>tfw everybody talks about her tone of skin and not whether or not she can do an Irish accent

Oh me lucky charms!

>>94977917
The main character from the Dark Tower series
Iron Fist
Magneto (if you count jews as white)
Dancy Flammarion
The main character from First Year Healthy
Alice

And you can expand the list quite a bit if you add in characters that would be very different if they weren't white, though aren't explicitly required to be white. Usually, it's just because straight, white male is the default character because most writers are straight, white males. If people make a character not that, they usually have a specific reason in mind.

>>94978495
>Magneto (if you count jews as white)

Remember when he was a gypsy?

>>94976549
I agree that people of color deserve to see themselves represented in the media, but I don't think yelling at people to recast roles is the way to go about it.

The USA is a capitalist country. If there's a demand for (competently written, non pandering) media with more POC then fill the demand. Read as: Rather than pissing and moaning about roles going to people you don't like, work on convincing the dudes in power to CREATE something for you, not TAKE AWAY something from someone else. The second option will piss people off and generate blowback, whereas the first option will not.

>>94978495
As >>94976344 points out, a character's race, especially in an area where they are a minority, should affect the character in a fundamental way. You're not going to drop a black man in 1940 Siberia and expect him to fit right in. If anything, you'd think the socially aware types would want an exploration of these themes instead of pretending like race doesn't matter

>>94977971
>made a series of arguments as to why her race is important
And they're wrong because the singular argument, not a series just one argument, is that English folklore is only for whites.
But that argument is incredibly flawrd and also racist might I add because England and Scotland and wales and Ireland are not white only countries so if Alice is a citizen of Ireland then she's fucking irish and therfore can be part of a story with irish folklore.

>>94975267

You lost. If you loved the country so much, you probably should've fought harder for it.

>>94974222
Granted, Daimio is half Asian, but his Asian side is pretty prominent. Even without the race thing Skrein doesn't really fit the character

>>94974951
Daimio is awesome and again, fucking Ajax just wouldn't do the dude justice.

>>94974932
>Anyway /co/ has always been /pol/

It really hasn't, though.

>>94977365
If you read the thread you'd see it's like one or two people doing that, there're a lot of complaints about Sasha.

>>94978577
Friend you might like to think the irish are brainless dolts who see black people as mythical creatures but we don't really give a fuck.

>>94978574
>If there's a demand for (competently written, non pandering) media with more POC then fill the demand.

But studios always take away the wrong lessons. When Denzel Washington gets into an A-list actor, studio thinks "people like charming black leading men, let's make more black leading men movies with Denzel" rather than giving more black men leading roles.

>>94976606
why shouldn't people of color be able to see themselves represented? thats a fucking stupid question. theres no reason for white people to dominate everything everywhere always, especially in the United States with it's melting pot of cultures and ethnicities.

>>94978574
I dont actually disagree with you, but it's the little things that count, and casting a white in a role where the character is originally non-white is a pretty big slight considering the opportunities for people of color are limited already.

I heavily agree with you as far as creating things for them (people of color) but alot of things dont get the budget needed based upon the very circular "well theres no market for it" reasoning. Hollywood and american media in general is still dominated and run by white men, many of whom dont understand or dont care, and so that makes it harder for them to find/create opportunities.
I dont have any sort of "good" solution though.
>>94978641
also this. the suits are fucking retarded, but thats been obvious.

>>94978640
And besides the girl is light skinned as fuck, I wouldn't peg her as black to save my life.

>>94974932
>Anyway /co/ has always been /pol/
/co/ was formerly one of the most educated, forward thinking, and generally "liberal" boards before the /pol/ take over
/pol/ dominating the conversation and opinions is a pretty recent thing in the last 2-4 years.
if you had been on /pol/ before 2012, or 2013, you'd know that

>>94978689
/co/ is still easily in the top five most liberal boards. You need to venture out some more if you think this board's conservative.

>>94978593
No, the argument was that a black girl is going to experience England differently than a ginger. Additionally, they are not white only countries, but they are almost 99% white. It has nothing to do with citizenship, it's how that singular person experiences their country and it's mythology. Race will absolutely affect how you interpret your surroundings, especially when you're a minority to an incredible degree.

You're simply reducing the arguments presented to you without actually presenting a decent, well-thought point instead of "but dat's racist" and "race doesn't matter". Race DOES matter and to imply otherwise is racist in itself.

>>94978658
>theres no reason for white people to dominate everything
they are paying for the film and they are the mayority in america
>why shouldn't people of color be able to see themselves represented?
blaks are 10% of america population so if you have a black actor per 9 whites you are good to go

>>94978724
this

people here actually fell ill after Hillary lost.

>>94978689
>every single board know us as /co/mblr
>/pol/ take over
i sence a disturbance in your narative

>>94978593
>And they're wrong because the singular argument, not a series just one argument, is that English folklore is only for whites.

This is a misrepresentation of the argument.

No one is saying that English folkore is 'only for whites', but that it was created by whites in a white culture and is historically tied to whites. You can enjoy whatever folklore you want to, man, but when picking an actor to represent a character heavily and intrinsically tied to these folklores, it makes sense that they be of the race that is in every sense tied to that lore.

>England and Scotland and wales and Ireland are not white only countries
Yes. But Ireland, the country this character is from, is overwhelmingly predominantly white. Especially if you go back to the time when this character was born. For her not to be would be such a distinct difference from the societal and cultural norms of that time that the narrative would have to focus on that in particular.

Also I don't think the phrase "cultural appropriation" has been used in this thread yet, when it's completely apt and appropriate in this instance.

>>94978770
This. There was even an anti-Trump thread stuck on the front page by mods.

>>94978724
oh, I know /co/ is still one of the most liberal, it's just not as liberal as it used to be.
the "everything was always /pol/!!" perspective just irritates the shit out of me as a long time 4chan user.
>>94978732
>blacks are 10% of american population
okay, thats fine, but I never mentioned black people, I'm speaking about non-whites as a whole, and non-white people are more than half the the american population.
But that isn't the point, even if non-whites were 10% of the population, they're still entitled to representation.

>>94978726
But alice was already touched by fairies and lead a charmed life, different from the waking world around her with the absolute certainty that fairies exist and by the time we met her proper in the comics Ragnarok is already it way so day to day English society doesn't even matter to the fucking story!

>>94978593
It's literally cultural appropriation. Would you be fine with a white guy playing a hero based on Anansi, the African trickster spider god? What about a white guy playing Baron Samedi or Papa Legba? Or a white guy playing the avatar of Bastet or Shiva or Quetzacotl or something?

>>94973741
if you mean the ancient one from strange,
there were people bitching about it, there was a
whole thing with margaret cho and the lady who played the character

>>94978785
>This is a misrepresentation of the argument.
No it's exactly what you guys are saying. You fags are bleating muh heritage and you don't even have the courage to admit that you believ England,Scotland,wales and Ireland are white only countries who fall apart when they see a light skinned black person, who easily passes as white might I add, their brains explode and don't know how to function proper.

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Why is it okay for non/whites to slip into stories based on European folklore, but not the other way around?

There are people ITT literally asking the central role of a tale about a red-headed Irish girl interacting with faeries be played by a black girl. What if a film based on, say, the Mahabharata starred a black guy as Karna?

>>94978807
>they're still entitled to representation
i agree as long as it isnt over-representation

>>94978886
>who easily passes as white might I add
heh

>>94978886
It would be greatly appreciated if you could read and respond to my post outside of my first sentence. There are statements I have made in it that address what you are saying, that you have passed completely over.

>>94978854
The English stopped having the right to complain about cultural appropriation when they became an empire.

>>94977606
>>94977606
And you are part of the problem too. It's Del Toro, not Del Taco. implicit racism.

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Finally the SJWs are messing with something I can actually boycott. Usually I have no interest in any of the dumb shit they try to fuck with.

>>94978854
colonist empires can't be culturally appropriated when they've gone across the globe and asserted themselves everywhere

>>94978932
>>94978957
It's a good thing we're talking about Ireland and not England then. The Irish are probably the white skinned ethnic group that has suffered the most discrimination, especially in the last couple hundred years. Nice that you're outing yourselves as casual racists.

>>94978922
Well I think it's all fucking bunk so I'm not even gonna bother with your prattle. Honestly it's typical for cowards like you trying to bury your true intentions with off topic tangents so I'm gonna stay focus.

>>94978892
>Why is it okay for non/whites to slip into stories based on European folklore, but not the other way around?
because whites/Europeans colonized and imposed themselves on peoples all across the planet.
no other country did that.
maybe japan to korea, but thats about it

>>94978854
No. But I also would've be fine with Mercury or Odin or Perun or Zalmoxis being replaced by black dude solely because SoCal liberals think it's "progressive".

>>94978970
>racism against white people!!!!
back to >>>/pol/ with ya

>>94978886
>a light skinned black person, who easily passes as white might I add
Is it just me or does this come off as an incredibly racist thing to say? I can't really put my finger on why, though.

>>94978987
And?

>>94978994
Oh, I'm sorry. It's my mistake that I thought you were trying to have an actual discussion.

>>94978970
You're the fucking racist anon, here you are equating whitewashing with black actors getting employment as if they are the same thing.

wait a sec, the girl who's playing alice is black??

I looked at a picture of her and thought it was a white chick with dreadlocks

>>94978985
Please, how was anything I was saying off-topic or a tangent. I was directly responding to your statements.

>>94978987
By that logic, blacks lost their right to complain about slavery when they themselves sold slaves before the Europeans even arrived.

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>>94979015
One-drop rule, anon. Apparently, pic related passes as black to burgers.

>>94978994
Racism is healthy.

>>94979013
This is a specific, individual film being discussed.

Also:
>White actor gets role as Asian character
>Whitewashing
>Black actor gets role as White character
>"Black actor getting employment"
Shit if we NEED to have more black people in the Hellboy movie, use some from the comics, or make a new BPRD agent or two, nothing wrong with that.

>>94978987
>your ancestors had empires so whites are no longer allowed to have racially specified characters in fiction

Makes sense

>>94973661
I bet his daughter is behind this, she's a huge sjw dyke.

But she does have pics on Facebook of her pole dancing which I've totally jacked it to.

>>94978987
>No other country did that
Acting retarded on purpose is not trolling anon. Its acting retarded.

>>94979013
I don't believe I ever said that. I'm saying that this is clearly a case of cultural appropriation and then people said that it's not cultural appropriation because the Irish live next to people who were mean a few hundred years go.

>>94978987
Why do film casting decisions in 2017 have to be beholden to political history from centuries hence?

>>94978996
It's cause you're a white guu whose never experienced what's it like being black in america and how sometime when your brothers or sister come out with lighrer skin and straighter hair they don't really have to worry as much as being discriminated against when they're out in public.

Morgan Freeman culturally appropriated the role of an Irish person in shawshank redemption and this kind of racism is absolutely unnacceptable.

>>94978936
It's because he's fat, not Hispanic

We dont even know if Movie Alice will have a fairy connection. All we know is she'll be a BPRD agent and have ghost powers. From the outset its clear the movie version will be an OC using the name.

And to be perfectly honest I find it hard to believe anyone actually gives a shit about Alice. I love The Storm and The Fury, but she's a flat character who only exists to be expositied to. The Fairy thing, outside of callbacks to The Corpse, is just there so Arthur and Queen Mab have reason to divulge info to a character close to Hellboy.

Stop complaining about this bullshit "oppression"

Just a bunch of racists scared of seeing a non white in their funny book films

>>94979048
>Shit if we NEED to have more black people in the Hellboy movie, use some from the comics, or make a new BPRD agent or two, nothing wrong with that
this would be the rational and sensitive thing to do but then they woundt have that buzzfeed articles

>>94979013
Aren't they literally the same thing? Employment of actors.

>>94979080
I have only interacted with black people when getting a taxi and I have to say that their behavior is worse than any other race iv had to get a taxi with. Its remarkable how much poorer their behavior is.

Not ex slaves btw. Africans.

>>94979103
its really this, but it's always this, and they'll never be able to admit it

>>94975881
>Or would you be totally okay with a white character being raised in Africa, getting himself raised by their figures of cultural myths and stories, and getting named mystical protector of that region?

Yes, because there are significant populations of white people in Africa, and depending on the era you could get some really kick ass stories.

>>94979063
It's not though ya shiylt. If she's irish citizen in the story then giess the fuck what? It's her fucking culture.
We're not fucking americans here anon, we don't hate black people.

>>94979103
They cast a nobody actor, in a nobody role and then have him step down. This makes the news.
Its called free publicity. They are using race baiting to advertise films now. Instant boycott from me. False controversy can only hurt us all.

>>94979098
That's the main issue, really. It's only Alice in name. Bet they keep her relationship with Hellboy, though. I bet that's why they're using her in the first place

>>94978987
Right I forgot when Genghis Khan literally erased Khwarazm from the face of the earth, he did it in the name of white nationalism...

>>94978987
Let's see. You mentioned Japan, but there's more!

>Ottoman Empire
>Qing China
>Muscat and Oman
>Mali Empire
>Songhai Empire
>Early Muslim Conquests
>Mongolian Empire
>Inca Empire
>Aztec Empire
>Tu'i Tonga Empire

Even if they were limited to a particular region, white Europeans aren't the only humans to have ever done conquest, slavery and genocide.

No one is pure.

>>94979113
>bringing back a classic.
Cool story bro.

>>94979163
He is trolling or he is retarded. Why are you responding seriusly to a troll/retard?
Lurk more newfag.

>>94979131
Citizenship =/= Having the same cultural heritage

>>94979163
Australian aborigines dindu nuffin

>>94979103
You must have missed /co/ throwing fits when Waller and Mandarin were changed, then. You can cry racism all you want, if that makes you feel morally superior, but it's actually a bunch of people mad somebody is screwing with characters they feel strongly about.

>>94979166
They try to steal change, go the wrong way, act aggressively with passangers and they often, but not usually, smell.

You dont get this from slavs, asians or muslims. Its a real eye opener. Young single women are advised not to use them at all and this can be said openly.

>>94979131
I'll use your post as evidence as to why it's okay when I write my "White man moves to Haiti and becomes the avatar of Baron Samedi" story then. That should stop all the butthurt.

>>94979131
Are you seriously trying to pretend there is no racism in Ireland? That racism is a wholly American issue?

>>94979179
>cultural heritage
A bunch of smoke and hot air. Anyone can claim they pertain or descend from wherever they want. African-Americans do that with Egypt, Germans did that with the Romans.

>>94979210
I like that idea more than I should.

>>94979214
He isnt Irish and the Irish are very racist, only against blacks and muslims though. South americans, asians and slavs behave themselves.

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Today, I will remind them

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I genuinely can't see the day when hiro finally deletes /co/ for good.

>>94979258
I should add that we hate Irish travellers, roma gypsies and scummy working class irish people too. All of them have no idea how to behave.

So maybe we arnt racist at all and we just hate bad people.

>>94979267
>black guy is the doorman
What did they mean by this?

>>94979210
Riding people is what the Loa do, as long you acknowledge the slave roots and how Vodun plays in Haiti society you can writer and I would gladly read it.