What comic has aged the absolute worst?

>>94972455
America Chavez.

Preacher is nearly unreadable amounts of edgy late 90s post Beavis and Butthead/South Park levels of cringe. It dedicates a whole issue to unironic Bill Hicks worship lmao

>>94972455
>>94972623

He said "aged the worst", not "were awful since day one". Unless you mean that comic was dated the minute it was published.

>>94972675
Watchmen

wow cant believe ive never heard of digital justice before

sounds hilarious

>>94972675
America is actually quite the comic as it gets worse every issue which should be inhumanly possible since every issue since 1 has hit rock bottom but it just goes lower.

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>>94972455
>3D comics

Man what the hell were they thinking?!

>>94972675
That's a tricky question to answer. Plenty of stuff is just automatically bad out of the gate. War Machine 2.0 and other attempts at CGI comics in the early 2000s come to mind, CGI being what it was at the time. But even those get worse with time, because current CGI continues to improve. Stuff like America Chavez is also complete garbage from a writing and technical standpoint, but I get the feeling that it, and comics in a similar vein, will be viewed the same way we see stuff like After-School Specials or that one Sonic short cartoon about how to handle Uncle Bad Touch. Weird, quaint, and definitely inappropriately direct.

To put it another way, a lot of Superman comics from the Silver Age have aged poorly because they were designed with a ridiculous shock premise in mind, or because they were infantile in their over-use of expository language, simplified plot-lines, and extremely one note characters. Those are just bad qualities that any story can have, but those comics are definitely products of their time period. I wonder if, in another 50 years time, we will come to view Bendis style dialogue, heavy narrative decompression, and the tackling of social issues with all the grace of a herd of bulls in the world's largest china shop.

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>>94972455
I'm kinda sorry to say it but Witchblade.
If you guys weren't around this was bigger than Spawn for about 8 months and then just imploded completely.

>>94972455
pretty much anything from the early 90s

>>94972725
Err, that is to say, I wonder if we'll come to view all that in a similar vein.

There's a Digital Justice HC in the discount bin at my LCS.

>>94972673

Yet it's still topical.

>>94972733
They didn't age badly, because there wasn't anything to age. They were over the top edgy and humorously awful and still are. They aged perfectly.

>>94972756
How so?

>>94972726
I know there was anime and I fapped to still images of it

>>94972455
>implying shit like this isn't great

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>>94972834
wow. the latest was 2013. she was everywhere.

>>94972455
Frank Miller's art hasn't aged well.

>>94972726
I think I fapped to it when I first found out about it in the late 90s.

>>94972726
It didn't go anywhere. It had less to work with than Spawn and burned out faster.

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>The art is outdated
>The writing is outdated
>The concept of reboot is overused
>So are mega events
>Anti-Monitor isn't new anymore
>Barry came back
>Supergirl came back
>There are more than one Earth again (not infinite, though)

This book was revolutionary at launch, I can't stress this enough, but as it is know, people only read it out of respect, nothing in there is relevant anymore.

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>>94973002
yeah i know. that's the point of the thread. this even had its own tnt tv show though. there was about half a year where anything comic books was all Witchblade

>>94972455
To be fair to the an otherwise terrible book, the CGI effects were VERY new at the time. Even the Swirl effect would not become common place in Photoshop until 2 years later in 1992.

Remember, just 17 years earlier the first CGI was used in the movie West World. And 8 years earlier Tron was a graphical feast for the eyes.

Got to at least give it to them for doing an entire book on computer in a time when digital art was in its infancy.

>>94972871
There's also another Witchblade TV series in the works

>>94972455
Most pre mid 80s comics.

>>94972874
Wrong again

>>94972455
This is pure a e s t h e t i c

>>94972717
In fairness 3D cartoons and films has taken over those markets.

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>>94972455
If you don't think this is the best looking Batman then get the fuck out of my facr

>>94972874
This. His layouts aren't as interesting anymore and his action scenes always looked awkward with the characters contorting their bodies awkwardly and their blows having no impact because they'd be falling backward to deliver a backhanded chop while hitting some guy with their toes and shit like that.

>>94973180
wtf why? that is insane. i used her as the example of not aging well/ie not working in 2017.
i didn't actually realize how popular she was till I spent the last hour reading up.

should have gone with G-13 or Fathom.

REBOOT DANGER GIRL

>>94973296
how can one man be so wrong

>>94973311
I'm not wrong.

>>94973329
you're possibly the wrongest person on the board right now

>>94972673
>Preacher
>cringy

When did this board get so full of insecure faggots who can't enjoy anything?

>>94973334
No, I am right.

>>94973335
it literally has a character named Arseface

so named because his face looks like a butthole

that's it

that's the entire joke

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>>94973046

>>94972623
>>94972675
I mean, didn't America Chavez actually have a character turn to the camera and outright say something along the lines of "LOVE BETWEEN TWO WOMEN IS THE TRUE LOVE YAAAS QUEEN" recently?

Like... can they go lower than that?

>>94974038
they could take the writer of the MAC solo and have her replace Slott on ASM

>>94972786

It deals with a lot of issues and themes that are pretty universal, even today.

>>94973339
>that's the entire joke

And then he becomes a surprisingly well rounded and sympathetic, multi-dimensional character.

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>>94972673

It breaks my heart but I do have to admit that a lot of 90's Vertigo stuff does come off as pointless edginess for the sake of edginess.

Although to say they aged the "worst" when there are literally Golden Age cape comics whose entire point was to dehumanize Japanese people to the point that the readers wouldn't feel bad about he government was putting them in internment camps would obviously be silly.

>>94973101
It also got an anime, somehow.

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>>94974038
No.

It wasn't directly to the camera.

>>94972455
Considering the whole ironic retro vaporwave memes I'd say this aged pretty damn well. Literally ahead of it's time.

>>94974453
Is vaporwave still a thing?

>>94974104
Maybe you just have shit taste.

>>94974243
and the anime was honestly not that bad. a story about a single mother working as a superhero to provide for her daughter is pretty damn rare, and the romantic subplot with her boss developed naturally as a growing affection between two adults with their own responsibilities to consider without relying on the usual romantic tropes most anime fallback on. I'd definetly rate it higher than the X-Men anime and Iron Man anime

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>>94972874
Excuse me, my name is, euh, Mr. Rellim (yes, that will do), and I think that Frank Miller fellow is an excellent creator.

>>94973109
It would have been a good cyberpunk comic, but they had to do it about Batman.

>>94974504

Ok.

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>>94974531

I like the way Rellim thinks!

>>94974606

But Zack, when you take scenes directly out of Miller's comics and directly adapt them but without the context that they take place in within the original it completely butchers the meaning and slaps Miller in the face!

>>94972455
>shit talking digital justice
what has /co/ become

>>94974642
I was introduced to Digital Justice by /co/ mocking how dated it was ... back in '08.

>>94972685
check it out if you can, its worth it

>>94972717
its less 3D, more the entire thing was computer generated, some of its looks fantastic, and admittedly some of it less so, all done by a guy named Pepe no less

>>94972874
fucking kill yourself

>>94973329
you are very wrong

>>94974679
it was my first introduction to comic books as a whole, holds a dear place in my heart honestly.

Still love that Catwoman design.

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>>94972726
Yeah, it was such a phenomena that Steve Gerber parodied it it an issue of his Howard the Duck MAX series.

He also parodied all the popular Vertigo titles at the time like Sandman, Transmet, Preacher, ec cetra.

>>94974500
>Is vaporwave still a thing?

I really hope not.

>>94974900
Pleb

>>94972455
Killing Joke

>>94973335
Sounds like you're the insecure faggot if you can't admit a Garth Ennis property is full of 90s edge and fedora-tipping.

Fair enough if you think it's the greatest written work ever to have those tropes, but they're still there, and you'd be hard-pressed to deny it.

>>94972726
Did whatsisface, the deviantart guy who makes Suicide Squad covers, Harley/Ivy lesbian comics, and that lesbian bondage comic ever get around to his Witchblade fancomic where the younger host is being haunted by previous hosts, like Boudicca and shit?

That was the only time I was remotely interested in that franchise, it's entirely built on cheesecake.

>>94975361
you sound butthurt as fuck holy shit

>>94972455

Early 3D-graphics *anything* is simply appalling.

I remember people jizzing all over themselves for Tekken 1 in the arcades. The game characters poly count was something like 50 for the entire model, with shitty textures. I found it too hideous to be playable but it had all sorts of apologists explaining away how it'll get better in the future. Oh, it did, and i knew that then like I know it now, I simply wasn't willing to accept that early Alpha tiptoeing into 3D design until it reached some minimum level of quality. A brand-new model of shit, some people see the "brand-new" part, I see the "shit" part.

>>94975625
What was worse is they had the technology to make beautifully animated 2d graphic games for the Ps1 and Saturn, but everyone wanted blocky, floaty 3d characters that moved like driving a remote control car. I seriously had trouble staying into gaming in the late 90s.

I think MGS, FF8, and Brave Fencer Musashi were the only 3d graphic games I was into back then.

>>94972874
Wrong

>>94972874
It hasn't aged as well as most might have expected back when he was EXTREMELY popular, but I think it still looks OK.

>>94974104
>government was putting them in internment camps

not true

they were only kicked out of a certain part of california

they weren't forced to go anywhere

the encampments were built for the ones that had nowhere else to go

they weren't even guarded

>>94974606
snyder has said he doesn't like any comics

>>94975184
came in here to post this

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>>94974679
>>94974725

I still have my original edition from 1990. I was 6 when I was given this as a gift. I dont think I even looked at it for another 2 or 3 years

>>94973046

what does "outdated art" mean?

I honestly don't know the answer. This is one of Perez's best showings, I personally love this art and still prefer it over most currently-working artists.

>>94972673
>lmao
you must be 18+ to post on 4chan

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>>94972455
>made with a Mac

>>94973046
>If anything has been done again since it, it's no longer relevant
kill yourself at the earliest possible opportunity

>>94976256
If I had to guess, doesn't look like a Jim Lee knockoff and doesn't use digital coloring

>>94975993

wtf racism is fake? i'm redpilled now!

>>94973046
>Perez
>outdated

>>94976477
because when it came out your alternative was DOS or an Amiga, fa/g/got

>>94975184
>Hillary Clinton and her inflation porn twin.jpg

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>>94973101
speaking of aged well

>>94975374
Yeah I think he's still working on it but the god awful release schedule is really killing it for me

>>94973335
When Leafyishere got popular, I guess. And everything had to be layered in irony. Though that's more of an issue with some of the site's userbase.

Stan Lee's stories were really, REALLY, rough. There's a point in the mid 60's where he learns to stand aside and let the artists do their thing, and that's when the comics get pretty fun. But before, a lot of it's bogged down in his overexplanation and exposition, messing up the flow of action among other things. It was overexpostion, even for it's time from what I read of other SA material.

>>94977035
>It was overexpostion, even for it's time

not compared to DC

and FF and ASM hold up just fine

>>94976847
>insulting Amigas

whos the real faggot here?

>>94972455
Martha Washington Goes To War

>>94976013
i can find a shit ton of quotes that say otherwise

>>94977188
AT NO POINT DID I INSULT THE ORIGINAL GRAPHICS WAIFU CHUM