the only reason i hated the movie this is just.......sad

>>94962256
Isn't a Miles animated movie already confirmed? There was never any chance of Miles being a main character in the MCU. That said fat Asian friend was the worst part of the movie.

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>>94962256
>Miles Morales' Personality

>>94962256
Just give Miles Peter's personality and friends. Problem solved.

>>94962501
giving gwen, harry, mary jane to miles?

>>94962256
But Miles doesn't have a personality that really sets him apart from Peter.

>>94962614
Well I doubt Homecoming verse will ever use Gwen or Harry as their roles have been filled by someone else, and God knows where the MJ things going to land at this point.

But Miles is already black Peter Parker.

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>>94962256
>Miles Morales' personality
Miles Morales has a personality?

>>94963177
please, stop with this meme

>>94962453
>>94962501
>>94962659
>>94963177
>Flash spills brown paint on Peter at school
>Pete has to suit up before he can scrub all the paint off of himself
>suit gets torn during a fight
>everyone now thinks Spider-Man is black and makes a big deal out of it

>>94963177
being black is a personality, it defines all black characters in capeshit entierely

>>94963199
But he really doesnt have any personality at all, nor good storylines at all.

>>94962256

So many milesfags getting mad because they took the one good character from his cast and gave him to Peter.
I guarantee, we would not be hearing this bullshit if they didn't.
Also let's stop pretending Miles even has a personality, he doesn't and we all know it.

>>94963426
Same with Peter

>>94962256
>his character had miles personality
so he was just white miles aka peter parker whats the problem?

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We've had 5 movies of Peter Parker the weird loner with no friends

Was a sixth really needed?

>>94964928
He was reasonably popular in Homecoming though.

>>94964824
>Same with Peter
Fuck off Slott.

>>94964928
>We've had 5 movies of Peter Parker the weird loner with no friends
You mean like that one where he had a hot girlfriend?
Or the other one where he had a hot girlfriend?
Or did you mean the other one where he had a hot girlfriend?

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>>94962256
>Miles Morales
>personality

>>94965637
please stop with this other meme

Actually it's Native American.

>>94962319
>That said fat Asian friend was the worst part of the movie.

That's not how you spell "Michelle" or "Flash"

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>>94962256
>Miles Morales
>Personality

>>94965758
Stop pretending miles has a personality.

>>94965758
other meme?

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>>94965922
YES, MILES MORALES HAVE A
PERSONALITY STOP YOU PRETENDING

>>94965945
FUCK YOU

>>94965872
FUCK YOU TOO

>>94965637
AND FUCK YOUU TOO

>>94966417
>that bubble placement
Disgusting. Fucking Buckley-tier

>>94966417
>words
>words
>words
>words
All to explain something Bendis stole from Peter's personality

>>94962256
>miles can never shit up the mcu
Horray.

>>94966417
AYO HOL UP
Is Bendis trying to claim black crime is a genetic issue?

>>94966512
>>94966508
>>94965872
>>94962659
>>94963177
YOU DO NOT LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE HAD VERY BETTER STORIES THAN PETER?

you guys do not like Miles morales because he had very better stories than Peter?

>>94966417
One page of slight character development does not make a personality.
Especially since this was 5 fucking years after his debut.

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>>94966597
>>94966417
Why am I responding to obvious b8

>>94966597
>better stories than Peter
Motherfucker you better back that horseshit up with cold hard facts.

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>>94966624

>>94966597
Maybe he could have had a good story if he had gone through with it and killed captain hydra.

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>>94966696

>>94966742

Anon your desperation is showing.
And it is not impressive.

Miles' "personality" is a watered down version of Peter's anyway.

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>>94966696
wew

>>94966740
>>94966512
>>94966508
>>94966643
You can already stop that "Miles has no personality" we all know that this is a lie, this is just you looking for reasons not to like Miles, the truth is that you are afraid that Miles can replace Peter someday,

>>94966740
Except Secret Empire is awful.

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>>94966742
Such a hack he steals from himself

>>94966857
>Miles can replace Peter someday
He really can't though, Peter is too popular for that. This isn't like something where the original can die, Peter is just completely inseparable from the name Spider-man.

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>>94966857
Oh God, I don't know what's worse. Either the fact that you believe this would be a good thing or the fact that I can see Marvel actually doing it.

>>94966915
so, can you like Miles?
if Peter lpve him, why you cant?

>>94966949
Why you only ask questionds in broken english and splling errs?

>>94966949
Let me ask you something. Why do you like Miles? What makes him an interesting character?

I have yet to hear a good case for why Miles is good, how hes not just a retread of Peter's old shit, or what his personality even is. He has no fans, just advocates

>>94966949
People can have their own opinions, anon.
If we all took our opinions from characters we like I'd be obsessed with explosions.

>>94966597
>very better
>said it twice

Okay no but seriously...what did he mean by this?

After >>94966417 I think there IS a way to make Miles interesting.


They should have Miles go bad guy. Legit.
Just like Ultimate Reed, but in this case it will actually make sense, it's in his family DNA. Hell, make him a top-tier Spidey-Pete supervillain. Same powers, twisted justice logic, but in the end, bad guy. An un-alien Venom of sorts.

>>94966597
>>94967040
He's either a retarded Foreigner or he's falseflagging

>>94967164
Can't. Not with Otto running around in his fancy new Pete meat suit

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>>94966857
>Miles can replace Peter someday,

>>94966417
>>94966696
>>94966742
Personality doesn't come out with story elements piling on or in these extreme circumstances, the fight or flight beast does.

If you want to make a case for Miles's personality, it has to be in the day to day action and slow moments. He needs his own voice and perspective on reality. We need to see what makes him unique and likable.

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>>94966417

So he's a big manchild who cries all the time like Steven Redditverse?

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The best part is this thread proves it, Miles it's not Spider-man, and never will be, no matter what, he will always be Miles Morales.

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>>94965592
Weird loners have hot girlfriends all the time, Howard Hughes got to fuck anything that moved back in the day

>>94967238
No one cares about MIles outside the black community in America.

>>94964928
Are you retarded? Do you not remember how in every movie he either had
A) a friend
B) a girlfriend
C) both

Are you retarded anon?

>>94965027
People knew about him but not many liked him

The DJ at the party got everyone to call him Penis Parker

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>>94966696

>Nearly all of Miles' most dramatic encounters are resolved by him literally just paralyzing/incapacitating his enemy by poking them.

>>94967515
Most of them who read the comic think he's pretty boring as fuck though. casuals care more but don't buy comics.

>>94967515
>No one cares about MIles outside the black community in America.
No we don't care about him either.

>>94962501
>>94962614
>Miles + MJ
DEAR GOD, this was Quesada and Bendis plan all along!

>>94967497
>a millionaire gets a hot girl
Oh yes that's because loners surely smash like crazy and not because of golddiggers.
I tip my fedora to you fellow paladin!

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>>94967483
shit anon that's a good point

>>94967483
For real, Miles needs a different superhero name

>>94967815
They're afraid to, because without the Spider-Man name no one's gonna buy it.
Because that's most interesting thing about miles.
And by "interesting" I mean "marketable".
Of course not much of a difference.

>>94967815
In the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon they called him Kid Arachnid
Call him that or just Black Arachnid

>>94967164
>it's in his family DNA

That would be a horrible thing to do to a legacy character of Spiderman. It's overly edgy.

Ultimate Reed's evilness makes sense because he's already condescending to a point. Doesn't make sense for Miles though--he's never shown a desire to be evil, or overly judgmental in a way that might lead to going bad.

>>94966597
not sure if bait or just really autistic retard

>>94967238
Well, not gonna lie, his writing isn't that great...


...that's bendis isn't it

>>94969455
Bendis?

>>94969561
Yeah, bendis. Comic book writer?

>acts like Ultimate Peter Parker
>LOL WHY IS HE MILES

>>94969948
>Acts like how all of Bendis's nongritty characters act
>Audiences get confused because normally different characters have different personality

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>>94966417
>>94966597
>>94966857
Anon, Maybe you need to ease up on being speglord. I agree with you on "miles personality". But, 4chan will take advantage on your emotions.

>>94968068
>>94967815
He really doesn't.

He came from another universe. It is like a spider-man 2099 situation.

>>94970119
Except now he's in 616 with an alive Peter.

>>94970119
He came from another universe and took over the name Spider-man after Peter's death.
Him being Spider-man in the main universe is pointless.
He can still be a Hero but his name being Spider-man should have been the first issue they covered and solved.

>>94962256
Yeah man, what are they gonna do presenting a character never adapted to live-action? Change his personality or something? MCU doesn't do that, like with GotG!

>>94970409
There are plenty of heroes with same name. Hell, there is two scarlet spiders, and two spider-women. I don't know why miles getting bad wrap about it.

>>94970119
Miguel did his time and paid his dues. He got shat on, beaten up and lost friends. He deserves being Spideman.
He also had a personality. That helps a lot.

>>94966417
You know, I would actually like Miles if he went evil. He could be a wicked villain.

>>94970512
>Hell, there is two scarlet spiders, and two spider-women.
There aren't two spider woman
>I don't know why miles getting bad wrap about it.
It not just him. But the difference is the rest of the heroes have reasons for sharing the same name, miles doesn't now that he's in the main universe.

>>94970591

He even has an op villain move forcing the hero to come up with a plan that isn't "direct fight". And eventually he will job as a villain and basically become the new scorpion.

>>94963365
That would actually be pretty funny and wouldn't feel too out of place in the Homecoming movie. Would never happen though

>>94962256

Same thing with Flash, they fucked him over so much for the short time they can't use him later on now as Agent Venom.

It shows how the people making this stuff lost contact with the source material a long time ago.

>>94970538
Not really read his stories. 90's artstyle is boring and hard to look at.

>>94970591
It will never work. He got no motivation, it goes against his character, It is like peter parker turning into a villain for no reason. And it is freaking cliche as hell.

>>94970633
>It not just him. But the difference is the rest of the heroes have reasons for sharing the same name, miles doesn't now that he's in the main universe.

He wanted to be spider-man. There are moments in comics that he look up to spider-man and consider him as a hero.

>>94970664
>It shows how the people making this stuff lost contact with the source material a long time ago.
No it shows that they are aware the MCU doesn't need to be an exact copy of 616 and decided to do what they want.

>>94970811
>He wanted to be spider-man. There are moments in comics that he look up to spider-man and consider him as a hero.
First no, in the Ultimate comics he didn't want to be Spider-Man and only did it because he felt guilty about Ultimate Peter's death, but now in the main universe there's no reason for him to call himself Spider-Man since Peter's alive and well, hell the last few Issues of Ultimate Spider-Man revealed Ultimate Peter was still alive.

>>94970872
>First no

At first, He didn't wanted to be spider-man. Now, He got deep respect for him. When he got beaten up by hammerhead. He was thinking about spider-man.

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>>94962319
>fat autist bro
>worst part of the movie
>not le random, sarcastic, omg so antisocial "MJ"

>>94966417
>those bubbles
Does Marvel even have editors?

>>94967626
It really is a genuinely bad trump card/power.

No drama, no style, no stakes, especially since it's one-shot literally everything INCLUDING BLACKHEART that it's been used on thus far.

I mean, one hit kill capability can be good, with an obvious non-comics example, but it takes good writing and building the comic around that ability/everyone else not having that ability to make it work.

>>94967626


so what? Complaining that he uses his powers? Do you also criticize Wolverine for using his healing power?

Does Miles have to defeat an enemy by beating him with a burrito instead? Like what the fuck do you actually expect?

>>94971270
Most people complain that Venom shock is too powerful. There is nothing wrong with venom blast, I wish bendis develop venom blast more often. It is like rogue. You need some small drawbacks, or little nerfing.

>>94963365
Wells, Miles is literally just Peter Parker in blackface in the comics. He's a garbage character.

>>94971363
>Miles is literally just Peter Parker in blackface in the comics

He is not.

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>>94971363

>that one guy who doesn't read comics

>>94971369
He literally is. There's nothing unique or special about him compared to Peter, and Bendis knows it.

That's why he had to include the whole scene about "I don't want to be black Spiderman."

Because that's literally all he is, and is terrible wherever he shows up.

>>94971363
Anon, Miles doesn't have enough character to be a Peter Parker clone. Miles is a sleeping pill character.

Peter is, at a minimum, sassy.

>>94967815
>>94967815
They called him Kid Arachnid in the Ultimate Spidey cartoon, or at least they did on some toys. Feel like that'd fit if they hadn't timeskipped him up to whatever age he is now.

>>94971467
>He is like a nerd.
Confirmed for never reading a single spiderman comic in your life if you think this actually makes him distinct from Peter.

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>>94971489
>Confirmed for never reading a single spiderman comic in your life if you think this actually makes him distinct from Peter.

Not scientist nerd. he is lame nerd. He is more quiet, always getting told what to do. Peter parker is more of a hothead sassy nerd.

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>>94971664
he's more of a supervillain-in-making nerd

>>94971679
No, That is peter parker. Did you see his origins?

>>94971422
Peter Parker's literal female clone is more memorable and distinct than Miles.

>>94970512
>two scarlet spiders
At the moment the only reason Kaine has put the costume back on is to kill Ben. I don't think for a second that that is actually what is going to happen, but somehow this situation will resolve itself and only one will use the name. There are not two Scarlet Spiders.
> two spider-women.
Drew and who? Gwen crosses over often enough but she's not the actual Spider-Woman of Marvel world.

Miles needs a new name if he wants to coexist. Having two Spider-Men is stupid. Three is stupid too, Miguel should come up with a new identitiy for present day shenenigans and go back to being Spider-Man if he ever gets back to the future. But I'm mostly angry at Miles because he sucks shit.

>>94971270

I'm saying his power is boring and greatly diminishes any tension that would otherwise exist in a battle between him and an opponent that is clearly out of his league.

Miles is boring, his venom blast is boring, everything about him is just fucking boring. At least characters like America have the decency to be offensively terrible, Miles is just sort of there, not good and not bad, he just exists.

>>94962256
> Holland plays a guy who has a crush on a girl called Liz.

> Parker is very like Holland.

>>94973557
>Tom Holland liking women

>>94971405
Are you saying Peter is terrible?

>>94962256
They could, with Older Miles being former CIA/FBI/SHIELD/SWORD/SPEAR and the original Spiderman.

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>>94962256
Ned is Ganke. It's way too obvious.

>>94974616
But the name change prevented Bendis from getting any royalties, which is hilarious.

>>94974590
>Miles being former CIA/FBI/SHIELD/SWORD/SPEAR
Actually that's sounds pretty cool
>and the original Spiderman.
Nope, nope, none of that bullshit.

>>94974717
Can't have one without the other.

>>94972568
>Miles needs a new name if he wants to coexist. Having two Spider-Men is stupid. Three is stupid too, Miguel should come up with a new identitiy for present day shenenigans and go back to being Spider-Man if he ever gets back to the future. But I'm mostly angry at Miles because he sucks shit.

No, He doesn't. Having the same name doesn't hurt nobody. What is with spider-fags getting trigger about a person with the same name? But, DC fans are okay for batman getting more batmen.

>>94974902
Are you referring to Batman Inc? Because last time I checked, that was mostly retconned out, and even then the agents working in other countries went by their own name, followed by "The Batman of *insert region*". Miles going by Spider-Man is a lifeline that keeps him relevant.

>>94974952
>Are you referring to Batman Inc? Because last time I checked, that was mostly retconned out,

Still, they fully accept another batman.

>Miles going by Spider-Man is a lifeline that keeps him relevant.

You still using that? He is spider-man of the ultimate universe. There is plenty of issues of hin trying to be accepted as spider-man. Now, he going be like "Yeah, I don't want it".

>>94962256
But Miles is literally just black peter. Infact, of the legacy characters, Miles is the only one who lacks his own personality with literal mary sue powers that do not even make sense.

>>94974590
That's a good idea, it could also work into the whole Iron Spiders angle too. He's a guy that Shield has given the suit and web fluid too, but his actual powers are the venom blast stuff.

And they should call him either the Iron Spider or Scarlet Spider.

>>94972730
Hit the nail on the head. Miles is going to disappear into the background when bend is gets fired.

>>94974860
>Can't have one without the other.
Yes we can Peter was around nearly 50 years before miles was even created.

>>94975090
>Still, they fully accept another batman.
Yeah, because if there is gonna be another Batman it'll likely be one of Robins or Terry Mcginnis, not a bland wannabe who needs the Batman name to be relevant.
>He is spider-man of the ultimate universe
He isn't in the Ultimate universe anymore, until then he has no reason to still call himself Spider-Man.

>>94975400
>He isn't in the Ultimate universe anymore, until then he has no reason to still call himself Spider-Man.

And there is no reason for him not call him spider-man. Again, we all know that he is miles morale.

>>94975506
>And there is no reason for him not call him spider-man.
The only reason he even took up the Spider-Man mantle is because he felt guilty about ultimate Peter's death, in a world where Peter's alive he's got no reason to call himself Spider-Man.

>>94975552
>The only reason he even took up the Spider-Man mantle is because he felt guilty about ultimate Peter's death, in a world where Peter's alive he's got no reason to call himself Spider-Man.

Then in later issues, Ulitmate spider-man gave his name to him. So, he can retired with MJ.

>>94975400
>implying people will care as much about any other Batman

>>94975661
>Then in later issues, Ulitmate spider-man gave his name to him. So, he can retired with MJ.
Again he's not in the Ultimate Universe anymore.

>>94975687
No I'm not.

>>94975764
And after miles beaten blackheart, 616 spider-man accept him as being another spider-man.

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>>94966640
This arc is why I miss JMS so much. For all his missteps, he could produce solid gold unlike the current crop of Spider-Man writers who are only good at making missteps.

>>94963129

>but miles is already black peter parker
>black peter parker
>white miles morales

It's like everything is coming full circle which will inevitably lead to Spiderman's final form: Miller Parales