The Politics of Korra

>>94952403
This is pointed out in the last season. Extremists can have good ideas, they just take them too far.

>>94952464
So before Korra goes off to Lesbian Spirit Land?

>>94952484
Yes.

>>94952403
People with higher potential should be treated differentely.

>>94952403
Would be pretty stupid and downright negligent to recruit normal people as police officers just to fill some quota when benders are just far more efficient at doing that job.

>>94953927
SIEG HEIL

>>94952403
what you just realized this?

people realized this shit after watching fucking episode 1 season 1

although honestly some of your points are wrong, for example you don't have to be a bender to be on the council, Sokka used to be the councilman from the Southern Water Tribe after all

Does the government pay for Tenzin? I assumed he did that based off a mix of donations to charity, likely started by his father and a high government salary

>>94954008
There are positions in the police where a non-bender would be just as qualified. Namely all the positions that are largely investigative or administrative. If Lt. Columbo can be a cop while barely being able to walk or see properly, there's no reason a non-bender can't be a cop in a world of benders.

>>94952403
Actually Mako is part the police force so they allow Firebenders too.

I think Air Temple is owned by Tenzin. Its like having a lavish estate in middle the metroplex, due to the fact your dad built the city & carved out large chunk for himself.

Non-Benders had most wealth. Cabbage Corps, Saito Corp, the crazy dude who was littlefinger light. Meanwhile most the folks in slums were benders or criminals who were benders.

>>94954079
he's a cop in season two, I think there are suppose to have been governmental reforms between season 1 and 2 to address some of the issues equalists had, which is why there was suddenly a president instead of a council

>>94952403
The detailed, intricate, well-developed political mess of season 1 gets completely swept under the rug by the first chapter of season 2.
We stopped grieving for the missed opportunities a long time ago, just shut up and appreciate the progressive lesbians.

Mud horses can't walk on clouds. Ban clouds.

>>94954135
what did he mean by this?

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>>94952403
Amon was right about everything, but because he is the antagonist and a bender he was wrong about everything and so was the Equalists.

Et Tu Amon

>>94954020
The more pressing issue was that the Gaang apparently never accounted for, y'know, native RC population growth and the expectation of autonomy that follows; the United Republic was ruled by representatives from foreign nations.

>>94954237
He was a communist who was against meritocracy. People aren't born equal, so instead of allowing everyone to realize their own potential, Amon wanted to bring everyone else down to the lowest common denominator.

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>>94952403
>1. No non-benders serve on the Republic City council.

Just during the timeframe of the show, on Aang's time Sokka was the leader of the council, as well as some air acolyte.

>2. Though there are some exceptions, Sato, Cabbage guy, most non-genders live in the slums.

False, bending is so common that there are still plenty of benders in proverty because its not that special when 1/3 of the population can do that. They had an episode on the first season showing it when they hide among the poor. Hell, if anything, the show showed that its more common for NON BENDERS to be the most rich and powerful: Beifong on Aang's time, Cabbage corp, both Earth King and Queem, Sato, Varrik and so.... but this isn't any "non bender" conspiration, just luck most of the time; after all, any rich non bender can have a bender child, and any poor non bender can also have a bender child too.

>3. Only benders (earth/metal) may serve as police officers. There are several cases of abuse, too.

Agree, but seeing that Mako joined the force, it started changing, which shows that there are better ways to deal with it than "overtrhow the governament, destroy bending!"

>4. The government subsidies the lavish living of Airbenders on Air Temple Island.

They are basicaly an endangered specie, and nothing says that the governament subsidies them, even so, Tenzin is part of the council.

>5. Non-benders only means of advancement is marrying benders.

Never stated anywhere, and contradict the show.

>6. Almost all high profile private occupations are made up entirely of benders.

Actualy, seems like the opposite, most benders are on some sort of manual larbor.

Anyway, Equalism is like fighting against gravity, its stupid because you will never really get rid of bending. Among would probably take years to do that on RC alone, much less the world (and benders would likely still born). After 3 or so months, other nations would likely have destroyed Equalists after they conquered RC.

>>94954267
>Amon was against meriotcracy
What? He promoted people based on their skill and talent why do you think Lieutenant usually curb stomped people or the Equalist that followed him were stronger the normal ones?

>People aren't born equal.
This is false. EVERY HUMAN was originally a Non-Bender (Equal) until Vaatu fucked everything up and invaded for no reason.

By removing bending from the world, Amon was restoring humanity to its natural state and bringing balance to the world. The Avatar for some reason doesn't want humanity to go back to its natural state even though Non-Benders made all the technological advancements and proved when they have dominance over things they are better than Benders.

>>94954318
If bending ceased to exist, people still won't be born equal. What's Amon's next move? Break everyone's legs if they are faster runners than average? Hit everyone with an above average IQ over the head a few times?

>>94954366
He would create a glorious non-bending empire that will eternally hunt down the hiding benders of the world who will be a constant threat to the regime. He would also advance technology and people would be living comfy from the threat of benders.

If any wars were to be started it would be bender vs. non-benders.

>>94954366
Yeah, those things are totally comparable to being able to shoot lightning or cause a tidal wave.

>>94954318
>This is false. EVERY HUMAN was originally a Non-Bender (Equal) until Vaatu fucked everything up and invaded for no reason.

Amon doesn't know any of that. No one does except for the viewer. For all the people in the ATLA universe know, bending has been a part of humanity since the dawn of time and it's perfectly natural considering benders just born without anyone doing anything special. The unnatural thing clearly is to use a highly specific form of bending to destroy the natural bending ability people received at birth.

>>94954391
To people who don't possess those traits, they certainly are.

>>94954384
He is the only one who can use bloodbending to destroy the bending of others. If he dies, his regime would die with him and benders would easily wipe the floor with his followers.His plan was very short-sighted. Hell, he can't even prevent new benders from being born even if he takes away the bending of the potential parents. There are millions of people in the world accross different nations and only 1 person who can manually, by hand, remove bending. He and his followers were utterly retarded if you really think about it.

>>94954405
Just because people don't know doesn't mean he still isn't right.

>>94954447
All he needed to do was create his regime and create an eternal shame culture on the benders who would be genocided or go into hiding post-death.

Not too mention all he has to do is create a new Amon to take on his mantle as an eternal leader as he never revealed his face (Even though nobody knew who he was in the first place or ever seen his face.)

>>94952403
>I realize after watching TLoK for the first time that the Equalists have a point. Allow me to explain
No need, no explanation required.

>>94954457
It means he can't claim he is doing it to restore balance and the natural way of things, because he too has no fucking clue that bending hasn't been a part of humanity since forever.

>>94954253
really people who lived in a non-industrial society were unable to guess or understand the consequences of the industrial revolution? who would have guessed that

>>94954487
How could he possibly create a regime that spans the entire world, you dimwit? Benders aren't rare, they are like 1/3rd of the population. Why would benders thousands of miles across the globe let themselves be shamed and hunted down if they can fuck up those who hunt them without breaking a sweat?

>>94954519
Could it possibly be common sense? The IR hardly has anything to do with the basic premise of autonomy. The population growth is only a backdrop. Why should a population made up primarily of Earth Kingdom natives and Fire Nation immigrants be partially ruled over by not just one but TWO Water Tribe members?

>>94954417
False equivalence. People who are intelligent or are fast runners do not have abilities that allow them to radically impact their environment and those around them in an almost instantaneous manner.

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>>94952403
>1. No non-benders serve on the Republic City council.
At the moment. The flashback to Yakone's trial showed that Sokka and some random Air Acolyte used to be on the council. It's a coincidence that they're all benders, not oppression.

>2. Though there are some exceptions, Sato, Cabbage guy, most non-genders live in the slums.
Mako and Bolin were basically homeless. Being rich or poor has nothing to do with bending.

>3. Only benders (earth/metal) may serve as police officers. There are several cases of abuse, too.
Mako becomes a cop. The metal benders are just a specialized division within the police force, like a S.W.A.T. Team.

>4. The government subsidies the lavish living of Airbenders on Air Temple Island.
I don't remember this. In season one, Tenzin was a government official, so I assume he got paid. And I still don't know what Air Acolytes do when they're not trying to suck an airbenders cock, perhaps they make money somehow?

>5. Non-benders only means of advancement is marrying benders.
Sato, Varrick and the Cabbage Guy are some of the richest people in the entire world. Again, being rich or poor has nothing to do with bending.

>6. Almost all high profile private occupations are made up entirely of benders.
What?

>>94954579
do you have immigration numbers? because while I don't its very clearly implied that Republic City is basically suppose to be New York with large immigrant populations from all over the world

they literally have Water Tribe only gangs in the city, its not like they are an irrelevant minority, at the very least they are a sizable minority

>>94954596
Intelligent people have the ability to invent all sorts of weaponry that can. So wouldn't the solution to this whole problem be to just invent guns?

>>94954562
The same way the US does. Having the strongest military and industry. Remember how the Equalist literally BTFO if the Republic Military. He could easily curb stomp the Earth Kingdom which has majority of Non-bender and collect their resources to fuel his war machine.

>>94954562
>How could he possibly create a regime that spans the entire world, you dimwit?
Why are you arguing with them? The fact that the OP says "the Equalists have a point" and then supporters in the thread say "create a regime" flies in the face of having a point. You don't have a point and then take over the world and continue to have others take over in your stead. A democracy is the closest we can get to equality and democracy doesn't have you put your disciple and your disciple's disciple in "control." That is just replacing the messed up system of Republic City for another messed up system. Plus only Republic City and the URN have this issue since nonbender vs. bender wasn't a thing in the 4 Nations as they were their own people with a shared identity through a culture.

The OP's points do not make hold as others up above have already explained. Just let these threads die like the show should have long time ago.

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Why did they never address the fact that, despite there being an alleged "genocide" of airbenders, there seem to be quite a lot of them flying around. Seems kind of fishy to me

>>94954705
They did. There was only Tenzin and then Tenzin's kids. If the Earth Queen was holding airbenders to build an army then she's just as bad as the Fire Nation's war machine of dominance.

>>94954705
>Avatar after Korra has to start dealing with Airbender Holocaust Deniers

great just what that world needed

>>94954634
It's implied that the RC population is based on immigration, not that it's dependent on it.

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>>94954736
The Fire Nation was liberating the Earth Kingdom from the tyranny of the Dai Li regime in Ba Sing Se. Princess Azula herself brought about the coup and freed the people, but after the war they fell back into their corrupt and oppressive ways

>>94954744
There's no evidence that a genocide ever took place, just the word of some religious zealot who thinks he's better than everyone else because he can bend 4 elements because a spirit is using him like a puppet to enforce its will on the world

I want the White Lotus to leave this thread right now

>>94954657
>Remember how the Equalist literally BTFO if the Republic Military.

Surprise attack with planes. Once Iroh infiltrated, he destroyed all of Amon's airforce.

>>94954651
Producing and using that weaponry still requires time, resources, infrastructure and the cooperation of multiple people. Again, these things just aren't comparable to bending abilities.

>>94952403
The whole point of every season of korra is that they're all right but take it too far

>>94954859
Unalaq isn't right at all, there's not really a more moderate version of "become the dark avatar and plunge the world into a thousand years of darkness"

>>94954796
and you know like 100 years of records from a war where they were all killed

well documented and detailed plans about how Sozin planned and carried out his plan to wipe them out on Comet Day

Red Lotus GTFO, at least Zaheer didn't believe in dumbass conspiracies, you anarchist trash

>>94954871
I mean something something reopen the bridge between the worlds

but that really didn't make any sense to me, all it seemed to do was cause a bunch of problems for Korra and the rest of humanity

>>94954881
All White Lotus fabrications. You'd have to be a fucking earthbender to believe such silly tales. The truth of the matter is, there are airbenders now, and a majority of them *aren't* related to Avatar Aang, which can only mean that airbenders were never killed off. Harmonic Convergence is complete bullshit and has no basis in scientific fact

>>94954914
the fucking spirit energy cannon has no basis in scientific fact either but that didn't stop one from leveling Republic City

>>94954955
The spirit cannon was an invention powered using natural resources, much like atomic weapons. A magic spell randomly turning people into airbenders is nonsense. It's all lies to keep the Fire Nation weak and under the control of the Avatar and White Lotus

>>94954807
>Surprise attack
There was no surprise when you could see them dominate the air of Republic City once the coup happened.

Stop sucking bender cock.

>>94954983
atomic what now?

don't tell you buy that atomic theory crap? If matter and energy is all the same thing then why can't I earth bend a cloud or your blood?

>>94955019
You can't bend my blood because it's illegal to do so, not because you physically can't

>>94954796
Did the Avatar steal your punctuation, too?

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>>94954881
>muh six gorrilion Airbenders!
>The Boy in the Iceberg
>Iceberg
>berg
Pure coincidence.

>>94952464
Extremist don't take anything too far, they take ideas to their logical conclusion, Extremist are only bad when they have bad ideas.

What exactly did Amon do wrong? He didn't kill anyone, he took their bending and then released them? Why is it wrong to take someone bending. He's not even taking away someone's bending, all he is doing is either creating a mental block in the brain to prevebt benders from triggeeing their bending or blocking all their chi points at once.

>>94955299
>What exactly did Amon do wrong?
Read the above posts that want Amon to set up a regime, recall the various threads that already talked about it, and think about how the Avatar world stands based on what you know from AtLA.

>>94952403
>Hey, /co/, I realize after watching TLoK for the first time that the Equalists have a point. Allow me to explain...

The funny thing about TLoK is that while the aesthetics are East Asian, the politics are American. TLA engaged in parallelism with Imperial Japan and Y7-rated colonialism, but TloK... oh boy...

Here we have an East Asian flavored 1920s fantasy, with East Asian jazz music and all that... but there's no labor movement. There's no unions or strikes. Everything revolves about a fantasy stand-in for race: bending.

I mean, the Equalists are supposed to be for equality. It's literally in their name. But to them, class is totally irrelevant. Horisho Sato is a plutocrat riding a platnum-plated death machine against Mako and Bolin, two orphaned street punks who are barely squeaking by on money they earn in a sport so corrupt that the owners feel fine letting the Wolfbats cheat right in front of the eyes of the chief of police and Councilman Tenzin.

Wait, hold on. Mako does earn some money to buy Bolin that pastry that one time. How? By doing a day's work at the power plant. There's no union or anything. He can just walk up to the plant and get a job there, because lightning-benders are so interchangeable they don't need a regular workforce to power the city.

And let's not forget that Hiroshi manages to build a goddamn WAR FACTORY under the nose of the city, the local government doesn't monitor the import/export of raw materials or the number of hours that workers do. Now Hiroshi isn't just a pudgy parody of Batman, beating up poor people with his fancy toys, he's also living in a libertarian nightmare/paradise with no government oversight of the economy.

Do the Equalist want to change any of that? Nope. They just want to liquidate the benders, even the pacifist monks, while apparently leaving the rest of the minimally regulated capitalistic system intact.

Don't forget that time in Book 2 when Korra and Asami were all in for saving Asami's company by war-profiteering.

Iroh was literally for some Tonkin Gulf bullshit and he's meant to be a good guy.

The more I think about. The Earth Kingdom + Fire Nation + Water Tribe North are 1000 year old regimes. They lasted a long time and continue to last.

Amon's regime would be based on technological advancement for non-benders.

>>94955487
Don't forget that Mako wanted to do that too. You know, the by the book cop that was more by the book than Lin who wasn't by the book anyway.

>>94953927
Explain Donald Trump, Neil Tyson and Jake Paul

>>94954094
That makes the most sense.

>>94954629
>At the moment. The flashback to Yakone's trial showed that Sokka and some random Air Acolyte used to be on the council. It's a coincidence that they're all benders, not oppression.

That's not a given. After all, Sokka and the air acolytes both enjoyed the patronage of Aang, the apex bender. Would non-benders without those connections have the same opportunity? No smoke without fire, as they say.

>>94955582
No, Mako told the President after being reminded of his job. He only knew because Bolin let it slip. It's why Korra PMS'd hard in the office and tore shit up when he broke up with her.

>>94955756

Ugh. S2 Korra is Worst Korra.

They never quite managed to walk back her being a Quisling. They just sorta ignored it and pretended it didn't happen.

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>>94952403
>Republic City
>not a republic

>>94955756
>his job.
Which included him working with the Triads afterward and helping Asami secure her war-profiteering materials in that sting operation of his own doing and choosing.

>>94955728
>Would non-benders without those connections have the same opportunity?
We don't know since without the connector of Aang being there the Fire Nation would have scorched the planet with their progress.

>>94955728
your literally not even trying to make a coherent argument anymore, just spouting a few buzzwords together and hoping it might seem like a point

>>94952464
Kid radd had an excelent way of putting it:
Good view of the issue
Awful view of the solution.

>>94956069
>Good view.
>There is inequality among us, it's those people over there doing it.
>Unalaq wants to bring back spirits.
>No one else does except suddenly Korra and Tenzin and Jinora.
>Zaheer wants humans to dismantle all forms of governments and authority.
>Kills those in government and authority because no one will ever take their place.
>Kuvira wants to help the Earth Kingdom move forward.
>Is stuck in the past with her parental issues and land distribution which have her pick a fight with the world despite wanting to only help her people which she wasn't a part of anyway since she lived in an isolated self-sustained state.
They all had terrible views of the issues and awful solutions.

>>94952403
You forgot how the crimminals (benders) have the nonbenders as their main target. However i think that's not the most important point.

benders are, after all, dangerous. Every war on the planet happened because of them. Most crimes happens because of benders abusing their power. It's like giving assault rifles and rocked launchers to random people without any kind of check.

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>>94954881
Fuck off, everyone knows airbenders race-mixed into the population.

Here's the fire pill for you:
>Earth nation has basically 70% of the planet to themselves
>they don't even use it, but somehow they declared all that land belongs to them
>FN, the most developed nation on the planet, is forced to live in two goddamn islands with active volcanos
>literal God on the fire nation doesn't let the fire nation develop, until he finally dies because of one of the motherfucking volcanos
>Sozin decides that is not fair, take some land no one was using on the earth nation
>they start the war
>you know that the Literal God on the air nation is going to try to stop you
>attack the air nation to get that God before he gets you
>air kikes run away before you do anything
>can't find the avatar, goes to the savages up north and down south
>tries to make some deals, but they will have none of that bullshit because "muh 6 million air kikes" propaganda
>no other option but attack
>losing men on all fronts, decides to ban gay marriage to have more people in your army
Tell me ONE thing the fire nation did wrong.

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>>94952403
>non-genders

>>94954008
Did you miss the part where people were able to go toe to toe with benders after some training and getting their tazer gloves?

>>94956600
seriously who was the shitty writer who came up with the whole Sozin banned gay marriage stuff?

Its so dumb I'm not sure if its funny or sad

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Guys, guys. You're all looking at this the wrong way. Instead of making everyone equal by removing bending, we should make everyone equal by giving them guns.

Even the avatar in their OP state can be killed by a shot in the back.

Fuck, man, guns would solve all the problems any series has where some humans have a magical mystical moxie that the rest of the plebs don't have.

>>94956834
The artist who is adding blacks and arabs to Republic City for literal "Why not?"

As a black I am offended by her doing this.

>>94954008
Chi blocking.

>>94957046
She didn't come up with the marriage stuff as she is not the writer (Mike, the co-creator of Avatar is,) she's just the artist and has no input on the story. But even she said she didn't get the backtracking to the past when they should be focusing on the present in her post on the matter.

>>94953927
Should, but that's not how reality works.

>>94952403
1. The CURRENT iteration of the council is made entirely of benders, during Yakone's trial flashback we see that Sokka and an unnamed Air Acolyte are part of the council. So it's entirely possible for non-benders to make it into the council.
2. We're only shown two big industrialists (three counting Varrik in season 2) and they're all non-benders, and benders are shown working menial jobs (supplying power to the power plant) and joining gangs because they need the money and nobody will take them.|
3. It makes perfect sense that the police force, the people meant to keep the peace and enforce the law, be made up entirely of the most powerful individuals you can get. Don't forget that Republic City's police double as it's military if it's ever attacked by a nation.
4. For all we know Tenzin pays for that himself. Never mind them being the last Air benders in the world, the last remnant of the Air Nomad way of life, and that the island is tiny and only has one tower on it. Even if it was subsidized by Republic City, it's a negligible amount.
5. ??? Unless non-benders in republic city don't have voting rights unless they're associated with a bender this doesn't make sense. Also, non benders are shown to occupy the middle class upward, judging by their clothes.
6. In a world were people can throw fire from their hands would you hire someone who can do something similar to protect you? Same as the police force.

The whole thing made no sense. We were shown thousands of people going to equalists rallies, but no trouble on the streets. One part of the population (non benders) very vocally attacking the other (benders) but no conflict coming of this.
And we're never given a sense of how the population is divided, how many benders are there in republic city?

The whole equalist movement falls apart under a closer look, it has/had potential to be good, but it didn't make it.

>>94952403
BENDER IS BETTER.
NON BENDERS CAN GO GET BENT.
FUCK AMON
LONG LIVE THE AVATAR.

>>94956964
Anon, a city leveling laser didn't even kill the avatar, nor any of her friends.
In fact it only managed to kill the non bender factory owner.

>>94956600
>Here's the fire pill for you:

kek.

>>94954318
>This is false. EVERY HUMAN was originally a Non-Bender (Equal) until Vaatu fucked everything up and invaded for no reason.

Didn't Lion Turtles give out bending to humans who adventured out into spirit wilds?

>>94958778
Did you see the design of that thing? It's a wonder they could aim at all. One sniper or a guy with a submachine gun and the element of surprise could easily kill the avatar.

Plot armor not withstanding, of course.

>>94952403
It's called a caste system dumb ass.

>>94957181
Gay themes and non-Asians weren't considered or intended back when they were world building. In an attempt to have always been a progressive ally, they're backtracking, and awkwardly adding new elements. That's why the changes feel shoehorned and disingenuous.

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>>94956600
Non fire nationfags on suicide watch

>>94955394
bump

>>94956600
They didn't drill the artic for oil after conquering it.

I mean, if you're already there and wasted all these resources to kill the locals, what the fuck are you even doing as a nation when you don't plunder a land's only resource besides ice cubes?

>>94955394
>bump
Expecting actual discussion from /co/ on the many problems of the successor to Airbender instead of just focusing on Korra and how the "villains" did nothing wrong, even those in AtLA, is unwise.

>>94953927
You are the people The equalists wanted gone.

>>94956834
Everyone knows Sozin only banned gay marriage because his boyfriend Roku broke up with him and if he couldn't get gay married, no one else could either.

>>94959972
There will be no third avatar series to talk about and if it was it would be drowned in SJW shit.

Also the only thing Kuvira did was lock up some people who weren't Earth Nation natives. If Korea wanted to keep Republic City separate she should've Earth Bend them out in the middle of the ocean. Kuvira wouldn't build a Navy to annex them, if she did the Fire Nation and Water Tribes would've joined in the war.

>>94953927
So some people are just better then others just because they are and there is nothing that can change that?

Okay Nazi.

>>94962697
>smart kids should go to common nigger schools and don't perform than niggers to not upset niggers. Fuck them and their potential.

>>94952484
Actually bud she just went to the Spirit World. That is what it's called in the avatar universe. I think you threw in some extra bits there, probably because you wanted to seem completely unlikable.

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>>94963662

Man, seems like everyone in this thread thinks that Harrison Bergeron was set in a utopia.

>>94952403
the inconsistency with the show is ridiculous. If you insert guns, that means a way for a normal person with little training and without special biological traits can win against an elite with magical powers. Normal people eliminating elite aristocrats with technology has happened IRL and in Korra is not weird if that could happen too. Shit, if you are scare to put guns in a kid show make something else like magic electric gloves (they are in the show) or shit like that.

>>94952403

1. Until Raiko was put in power

2. "Non-genders"?

3. Mako is a firebender who joins the police.

4. True.

5. Not true, not even in season 1

6. Well yes, that is Amon's claim to legitimacy.

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>>94957046
no they didnt you fucking retard

>>94959586
you sound fucking retarded everybody in the comic is Asian you fool

>>94958667
The Equalists would make perfect sense if they were in reality another gang using discontent against bending gangs and ineffective government response to add a political cover to what is essentially a large-scale protection racket and gang war.

>>94967136
Its likely what they became after season 1, Bryke said that there was still some groups, but they were largely discredited, like modern day anarchists.

>>94959586
>and awkwardly adding new elements.
China's 5 elements are water fire earth wood and metal you dingo. But nobody wants wood so they used air. I also found a Chinese coin once and it had the same symbol that Toph uses in her metalbender school. And don't forget shadowbending and cookiedough bending.

>>94967158
>>94967136
No. The Equalists are gone the canon game tie-in between had Equalist discredited once Amon was revealed to be a bender. So the remnants teamed up with an escaped Spirit who wanted revenge on the Avatar for being sealed away.

Korra btfo the Equalist again.

>>94952403
>No non-benders serve on the Republic City council.
It was a coincidence because Sokka served on it and so did an Air Acolyte, and all of those are non-benders. Still there probably should have been a law to prevent a council of all benders/non-benders.

>Though there are some exceptions, Sato, Cabbage guy, most non-genders live in the slums.
This is untrue and vague. The fact that the only rich people we saw in Republic City were non-benders while there was an emphasis on benders who had to turn to a life of crime to survive was supposed to be a hint that Amon wasn't completely right.

> Only benders (earth/metal) may serve as police officers. There are several cases of abuse, too.
Again, this is never said to be canon, disregarding the fact that benders by default would make better cops than non-benders (at least until Asami stops hogging the shock glove technology).

>The government subsidies the lavish living of Airbenders on Air Temple Island.
Because they're an endangered race and there were only four of them at the time. Aside from owning the land they were an entirely self-sufficient community IIRC.

>Non-benders only means of advancement is marrying benders.
??? Not true.

>Almost all high profile private occupations are made up entirely of benders.
It's 50/50 and depends on the country.

>>94954596
Yes they do, it's called thinking and moving.

>>94952403
>most non-genders
Henh

>>94959086
Yes. Humans also lived in fear in small enclaves on said lion turtles backs because the spirit world would ate them, this was even before Vaatu (ugh) went nuts

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>>94952403
>non-genders

Why was the southern water tribe so shit compared to the north?

>>94971017
They got raided by the firenation repeatedly and didn't have a unified leadership to protect them. The south is comprises of multiple tribes living on their own, they'd be much easier to isolate for the firenation. Whereas the north seems to be able to fall back to their city and hide behind the great wall and ice barrier.

>>94971017
Southern rednecks

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>>94972070
fuck off north nigger

>>94967476
>>94967091

I don't care enough about the comics to check. With the amount of cringy gay retconning they're adding, I wouldn't be surprised if black characters started showing up.

>>94953927
People with higher potential are treated differently; by being used, unrecognised, ridiculed and maltreated by the common masses and the absolute fucking subhumans in power. Equality favors the talents, you dumb fuck, because given an unbiased deck we'd immediately draw all the right cards.

>>94972372
Please don't post racism outside of /b/ or /trash/

>>94954825
Yeah of multiple people just like them

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>>94954118
>The detailed, intricate, well-developed political
> season 1

>>94954825
Learning to bend at a high enough level to be useful also costs time, resources, infrastructure and the cooperation of multiple people.

Added bonus, large groups of people can relatively easily learn how to effectively use guns, while you kind of need to be lucky to become a bender.

>>94954651
My man!

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>>94952403
"Korra is shit"

As for your actual post, no, the Equalists didn't have a point and you could tell amon was full of shit even before the show aired.

1. The Council is a NATIONAL/CULTURAL organism. The council members represent the interests of benders AND nonbenders of each of their respective nations. There's no "nonbender nation".
2. That's retarded. The wealthiest and most powerful individuals in both ATLA and Korra were nonbenders, save for a couple exceptions. Probably because they spend their youth educating themselves instead of learning to chuck rocks for 3 - 5 years.
3. Nonbenders serve as police officers. However the swat team is benders, because they're most combat capable. Either way, being police isn't some amazing and lucrative job.
4. No, the government was subsidizing the continued existence of the air nomad culture, in reparation for their genocide and near extinction. 99% of people living in air temples are NON BENDERS.
5. Plain false and stupid.
6. The opposite, most actual important and lucrative positions outside of the military are occupied by nonbenders.

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>>94972998
guy you sound fucking retarded

>>94972998
There's a black kid in airbender garb in the train station in the earth kingdom in ATLA fool.

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Who was in the wrong here? Did, Bolin have a legitimate complaint for defecting when there was nothing for him to gain by it and he knew Kuvira was in the right?

Why did Bolin betray Kuvira despite fighting with her for the last 3 years and was loyal enough to be invited to her inner-circle? Or was this just lazy writing just to have Bolin not be an antagonist and fight his former friends?

>>94977746
My good man, you seem to have lost the train of thought in the chain of posts you are replying to, so let me rewind things a bit for you. The question is: is there an intrinsic difference between possesing bending ability compared to simply having an excess of common abilities (like intelligence, speed, what have you)? The answer is, of course, yes, because having bending empowers an individual in ways nothing else can. This obvious truth created the fear and jealousy within the nonbending public that Amon and the Equalists could prey upon.

A counter to this notion was given in the form "But smart people could invent all sorts of weapons!", which, while true, is again a false equivalence, since the results of intellectual endavours require a whole functioning society to be put into fruition, thus, again, not empowering individuals in the same way as bending does.

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>>94974318
>racism
>cartoon about a fantasy world that is culturally Asian all across the board where all "black" people have blue eyes and live in the snow

>>94952403
who even gives a shit about the show anymore
when is someone going to post the new uncensored iahfy pic

>>94979873
the real question is when is someone going to find this picture

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/55966176/#55972663

https://archived.moe/co/thread/55966176/#55972663

>>94952403

1. I thought one was a non-benders since Sokka was part of the council before.

2.The Hell? you going on about them living in the slums there was plenty of non-benders with respectable businesses. They where being pushed for protection money from gangs but they where still far from being poor slummies.

3. This is true, but remember Toph build the force in mind to protect and serve it is sad what happened to her legacy.

4. Lavish living of air benders? Fire Nation pretty much went The Crusades on the Air Benders, Down till only one was left, who after what 70 years was it, there where up to four. They are pretty much a fucking Panda, and the island is a natural preserve for them. I pretty sure its OK to

5. you proved your self wrong with Satto, and Cabbage guy.

6. we got fucking lightning benders as batteries now, a once noble bloodline, use to power your kitchen blender for less then minimal wage. THAT IS SOME HIGH FUCKING PRIVATE OCCUPATION INDEED!!!!

Now here's the twist I agree with you Tenzin and the Council never took the time to actually fix the issues of the oppressed non-benders, had he done that, Ammo's movement would have fallen on deaf ears.

Basically benders all have conceal and carry permits from birth and have a huge advantage in life.

Earth bender? lol, fucking buying a house just bend that shit up, you have a guaranteed occupation in construction.

Non-Benders are purely genetically inferior if you think about it. Sets an odd precedent, which makes bad parallels to real world metaphors. It's too messy to make a lazy comparison like "oh white people are benders".

It's a Nickelodeon show that has little business making political points, so they stuck with the "We Lesbians now".

Amon was a wasted villain because his motives basically would lead the show into to much of a gray area, so they just made him "Spooky blood benders wants to take away all the bending/2nd Amendment"

>>94979357
It's lazy writing to have Bolin in the show in the first place.
Aang's team Avatar had a dedicated earthbender, so Korra's team Avatar needs a dedicated earthbender. Bryke miss the point of having characters on screen for long periods of time. Bolin has no purpose since probending is unnecessary when so much of Republic City and the United Republic of Nations was unexplored or unaccounted for in its ideas and execution. Bolin and Mako should have been combined into a single character. And that single character should have only appeared in season 1 and in only one or two episodes like the characters Aang encountered in his travels.

Bolin betrayed Kuvira because Kuvira was making commissioning weapons of mass destruction and involving people into matters where they should not be involved in since no strife was occurring there. And you can't be a part of someone's inner circle if you have no idea of what is going on nor understand what is going to happen as a result of the actions being taken.

Bolin posters on 4chan should also be combined into one human being. And get a trip so I can block them.

>>94981505
>Earth bender? lol, fucking buying a house just bend that shit up, you have a guaranteed occupation in construction.
Did you miss the skyscrapers? Shit's made out of metal now. Korra's first fight shows that the shops are made out of wood. They're not in Ba Sing Sae anymore.

>>94981505
>Earth bender? lol, fucking buying a house just bend that shit up, you have a guaranteed occupation in construction.

You still have to train a minimum of 3 years to get your earthbending to a useable level. Meanwhile nonbenders can spend those 3 years learning ecomonimcs or engineering or whatever and have a much higher paying jobs than glorified bulldozers with a salary.

>>94981907
Depends on when you start learning. Like so many Amon supporters in the various thread spout about babies being born with weapons of mass destruction at their disposal as early as childhood. Are you going to grasp economics, engineering or whatever at a tender young age and be accepted in university or be taken seriously by your older peers in the field? Or are you going to learn from others in your family or neighborhood about your culture and hone your bending and then choose how you want to continue as you get older?

That's the beauty of the four nations, it was a unified identity that didn't make someone a bender or a nonbender. You were a part of a whole, a community.

>>94982041
>Like so many Amon supporters in the various thread spout about babies being born with weapons of mass destruction at their disposal as early as childhood

Idiotic. The vast, vast majority of child benders are barely capable little stains that can throw pebbles around. Aang and his crew were extreme exceptions, same with Zuko and his sister. Other children could spend that time getting a basic education instead so they're not doomed to being a bulldozer with a salary or a cop when they grow up.

>>94982302
>Other children could spend that time getting a basic education
Which Azula and Zuko were doing as well as learning bending. Physical Education was a thing in school back in the day for my generation. A session like that could be part of the curriculum like how Piandao trained Sokka. There is nothing idiotic about building up your body, we have a whole board dedicated to that with /fit/ in this time.
Education is a lifelong pursuit anyway. Adults still learn even in current computer programming, medicine, changes in law for lawyers and those in government, new technology for engineers. Alongside that comes knowledge of the arts, which Piandao said belong to us all.

>>94982732
>Which Azula and Zuko were doing as well as learning bending

The royal family of the heavily militarized and mightiest nation in the world was getting an especially amazing education? No fucking way.

Getting PE isn't gonna make you a well-paid pro baseball player, anon. Nor will it make you Mike Tyson. It won't even guarantee you a half decent job, Mako and Bolin were poor as shit despite being above average, talented benders who'd received specialized training by another pro athlete.

Bending gives you some extra options in life, but you need a lot of time and effort, and usually money, to be able to bring those talents to a level where they're worth anything.

>>94982834
It's not to lead a person who can bend into a career. Getting PE would be a way to express yourself, maintain camaraderie with peers, build your body, and be a part of a curriculum that a person would get in school which would be a new way for ancient China turned more modern that Avatar went with its change sans bullets and guns.

A bender does not have to pursue that as a vocation or profession. They can learn as they go along, no devote their life to it like a monk in the temples on the mountains. How did your education go since you were not a part of a royal family (do not answer this but consider it since the Avatar world was changing and developing albeit in a weird way to provide unnecessary drama.) Part of life, not the whole focus.

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>>94952403
Almost like Korra had really bad writing.

My biggest issue with it was the structure, not having it be about globe trotting was an absurd disservice to the world of the show.

Doesn't damn it to being a bad show though.
You don't have to retread the heroes journey, but you do have to acknowledge the main character is supposed to be a hero.
She shouldn't be an eternally impulsive twat with a heavy flow problem.

If nearly the whole show was going to take place in a single city then the core focus should have been Korra as a superhero in this fantasy flavored version of early 19th century hong kong.
Shifting the Avatar from the old world sense of a hero to a more modern sense of a hero.

A big problem is the lack of self contained episodes.
You should write it like you're writing a basic 120 minute long 3 act movie.
Act one is a 2 part introduction, act two is a two part event that causes some kind of substantial change, act 3 is a 2 part finally.
Episodes 3-5 and 8-10 are
>Character has a problem
>Korra becomes the supporting character of those stories
The theme of the episode would match the character she is paired with.
>Mystery with Lin
>Comedy with Bolin
>Revenge with Mako
and if you're really going to try and make something progressive
>Romance with Asami

Huge fucking problem is the lack of a central villain.
Amon should have been the villain for the entire series just as Ozai was but instead as a reoccurring villain like the Joker.
Have him still "die" at the end of season one but be manipulating all the other villains and in the end it is him piloting the big dumb laser robot as the least subtle representation of technology as Korra is forced to turn into a big blue giant again to fight that bullshit.
Then either she manipulates the cities vines / spirits to take it down like it's the end of furngully.
Wasn't the battery made out of enchanted tree bark?
Just spitballing.

>>94983008
So you're basically agreeing that the basic training you can get at a young age is basically worthless as an advantage in life over nonbenders, and that for benders to properly develop and exploit their birth talent they still need to put it real time and effort, which could be spent by nonbenders learning equally valuable skills to far more valuable ones.

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>>94983048

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>>94954008
GOD CREATED MAN
SAMUEL COLT MADE 'EM EQUAL
HIRAM MAXIM MADE SOME MEN MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS

We would not be having this conversation if there were simply SOME FUCKING GUNS in this universe. Go ahead and bend through enfilading fire! Machine guns solve all equality problems, because they give the message loud and clear to every passing oligarch: Death claims all!

>>94983096
Only if by saying what you just typed that they are all equal and therefore Amon is wrong.

>>94983172
Amon IS way wrong. I was telling people he was 100% guaranteed to be a manipulative villain since the early plot synopsis came out years before the show aired. There wasn't a systematic discrimination against nonbenders during a century of war (the opposite in fact, benders were the ones getting put in work camps), so the logic behind there being systematic discrimination NOW was non-existent.

>>94952403
Just remove all benders

Does it actually make reference to Chinese/Japanese traditions and/or politics?

>>94952403
Spirits suck. They have no respect for humans, take over homes, ruin lives, and refuse to participate in society.

>>94985324
None at all, except maybe if you compare Kuvira to Mao.

>>94985495
Mao Zedong isn't a hottie though.

>>94956148

>There is inequality among us, it's those people over there doing it

In the context of season 1 Korra, and Republic City alone, this is pretty accurate. For all we know Sokka was the only non-bender representative, ever. The head of police is a bender, as are all the active officers, all the major gang members are benders, all the politicians are benders, all the sports heroes are benders etc...

Considering that the politicians could create taskforces to deal with chi blockers and not gangs, it's pretty accurate.

>Unalaq wants to bring back spirits.
>No one else does except suddenly Korra and Tenzin and Jinora.

Don't ask me to defend season 2, I won't do it. Even Wan realised spirits and people needed to be seperate, it's amazing that they didn't just overthrow humanity again immediately.

>Zaheer wants humans to dismantle all forms of governments and authority.
>Kills those in government and authority because no one will ever take their place.

The red lotus never really had a finished arc; for all we know, there's still dozens of cells still out there. But yeah, pretty daft.

>Kuvira wants to help the Earth Kingdom move forward.
>Is stuck in the past with her parental issues and land distribution which have her pick a fight with the world despite wanting to only help her people which she wasn't a part of anyway since she lived in an isolated self-sustained state.

Don't forget the concentration camps, which made no fucking sense whatsoever, seeing as she's all about helping her people, and every other nation is okay with non-native bending military squads.