Rick and Morty - Toxic Earth

>>94950795
Huh, a joke about God not being real... Again...

Why Americans seen making fun of Christianity as something super duper edgy?

I NEED porn of stacy right fucken now.

>>94950809
>>94950823
The only reason you complain about religion jokes its because of the pol influence. 5 years ago everybody on the internet was an atheist, but ever since the fedora meme making fun of christianity makes you a SJW or something.

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>>94950880
so many wrongs in a single post, I cant figure out if its a Joke or are you genuinely retarded

>>94950823
Because America still takes Christianity incredibly seriously.

>>94950809
For me that's not the issue. The issue I take from it is that the joke is that in the absence of the belief in God results in hedonism. It's an old stereotype for atheists.

>>94950823
Pretty much this >>94950944. The U.S.A. is one of the countries where Christianity is alive and strong.

>>94950970
I'm not sure if it's really a stereotype, but it's certainly an extremely played out joke.

>>94950823
The better question is why American writers still think "Man enjoys having nipples touched/licked/etc" is good joke material, rather than something that's already been done to death.

>>94950993
after watching a lot of jordan peterson's stuff, I appreciate Christianity a lot more. Atheists need to realize that our society was founded on christian principles, and without Christianity our society will go to shit. I'd say most people are better off as Christians, and would just turn into degenerate shitheads without Christianity.

>>94951042
Whose society? Because I know you ain't talking about America.

>>94951042
Not to mention, no matter how areligious society gets it still has its foundation in Christianity.

Our morals would be completely different in a post-Confucius, post-Buddhist, post-Aztec, ect society.

>>94950880
No I kinda more think the reason is that since it being pointed out it's more noticed how much it's said, religious jokes are fine but the same one-liner plowed down a throat isn't

>>94951042
you are a retard

>>94951042
this

>>94951042
The founding fathers weren't christian tho...

>>94951230
A good few of them were Deists, this is true.
But that still holds the same principles as Christianity.

>>94951042
I've actually seen more people become shitheads after finding religion.
They dive too hard into it and the cross turns into a stick up their asses.

>>94951262
I don't know if they were Deists; it's better to just label them Theists instead.

>>94950880
No, they just all remember that edgy teenager phase were they were all too happy to piss all over Christianity in the most embarrassing way possible. In response to that, and also because the average 4channer is a habitual contrarian, they've swung back in the other direction in an effort to dissociate themselves with those memories.

>>94951042
Jesus Christ people, read some Chesterton.

Degeneracy is fun, though.

>>94950970
>Toxicity in the show is based on the person's own belief in what needs to be purged from themselves. It isn't black or white, but based on what each person feels needs to be purged from themselves and what they dislike.
>So god-fearing christians turn into hedonistic sluts who bask in their own doubts.

Gee wiz it's like you didnt watch the fucking episode

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>>94951042
>after watching a lot of jordan peterson's stuff

>>94951291
This is actually correct answer, ignore any posts about /pol/ or SJWs.

>>94950795
What did you enjoy
>Stacey 10/10 waifu material
>Mortys ideal version of him self is a psycho
>Toxic Ricks babbel
>TERRY FLAPS

>>94951042
>all these triggered /co/mblr replies
You're talking to the gomorrah of 4chan boards.

The only characters who denied God were the toxified ones

This episode is literally saying that atheism is toxic. You all lack basic comprehension skills

>>94951699
I would like to disagree, but your digits say otherwise...

but seriously, this place isn't that bad by my experience

>>94951699
As much as it'd be nice for god to exist here's no basis on that. I wish I did believe in god or anything because I'm scared of dying and that just being the end.

>>94950880
>about religion jokes

You mean Christianity jokes

I wish toxic Rick and Morty were the MCs.
They were fun, like the old R&M from S1, they had a personality, unlike the new ones.

>>94951758
Projection much?

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DUDE, DEUS VULT LMAO!

>>94950944
>Because America still takes Christianity incredibly seriously.
It has to; otherwise it would have fallen to cancers such as catholic church long ago.

Here we had churches being blown up, statutes of Mary and Joseph being shoot at and pissed on, nuns raped on a mass scale, and built concetration camps for preists and religious people.

Let me known when America reaches that level of edgy.

>>94951071
America was absolutely founded on Christian principles. The founding fathers had enough foresight to keep religion separate from matters of state but all of them were religious men. God is in all of the founding documents and many of them Jefferson, Washington, Hancock, and others in their own writings make it clear they were guided by their Christian morals. America is not strictly a Christian nation, but it sure as hell was founded on Christian principles and by Christian men.

>>94951958

How about where you tell us where "here" is faggot

>>94951963
>but it sure as hell was founded on Christian principles and by Christian men.
*Protestant Christian principles.
Otherwise it would have turned to an oligarchic, cleptocratic shithole.

>>94951972
Mexico

>>94951958
Postsoviet state or Former Eastern block member, right?

>>94951989
oh

>>94950970
This

>>94951758
Retard spotted

>>94950877

I need porn of Stacy so bad right now.

>>94951291

this

Fedoras killed atheism. Fat kids with hats hating sky santa gets old fast.

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>>94950970
Not a stereotype though. Its just a logical end. Putting aside all "why God exists" arguments and looking it by simple materialistic perspective: If there is no Objective moral vector for the society and removing any mention of eternal life (No, by any means it is not achievable in this universe, due to heat death) will lead to taking as much pleasure of the remaining lifespan as possible, leading to ultimate decadence.

>For the ungodly said, reasoning with themselves, but not aright, Our life is short and tedious, and in the death of a man there is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave.
>For we are born at all adventure: and we shall be hereafter as though we had never been: for the breath in our nostrils is as smoke, and a little spark in the moving of our heart:
>Which being extinguished, our body shall be turned into ashes, and our spirit shall vanish as the soft air,
>And our name shall be forgotten in time, and no man shall have our works in remembrance, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, that is driven away with the beams of the sun, and overcome with the heat thereof.
>For our time is a very shadow that passeth away; and after our end there is no returning: for it is fast sealed, so that no man cometh again.
>Come on therefore, let us enjoy the good things that are present: and let us speedily use the creatures like as in youth.
>Let us fill ourselves with costly wine and ointments: and let no flower of the spring pass by us:
>Let us crown ourselves with rosebuds, before they be withered:
>Let none of us go without his part of our voluptuousness: let us leave tokens of our joyfulness in every place: for this is our portion, and our lot is this.
>Let us oppress the poor righteous man, let us not spare the widow, nor reverence the ancient gray hairs of the aged.
>Let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble is found to be nothing worth.

>>94951042
>being this much of a brainlet you have to watch babby tier Jordan Peterson to appreciate Christian theology

>>94952038
God I hope, that's my fetish

>>94950993
>The U.S.A. is one of the countries where Christianity is alive and strong.
As someone who lives in an Orthodox country, I couldn't disagree more. American brand of Christianity is just that, a brand. A scare mongering and moral baiting one at that.

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>>94951042
I don't like this budding narrative that all our current values come from a judeo-christian root, for one it's patently not true, you don't need to look far into it to see our enlightment values are secularist and a deliberate step away from religious thought, and secondly because I feel it's an excuse to propagate an east versus west view.
Not that you can't complain about backwards people coming into a country and disrupting the value system, but still.

>>94952049
A shit quote by the way

Six episodes in and the season isn't getting any better. That's pretty much my limit for dropping a show

>>94952122
6 episodes is your limit? You wouldn't last a season watching anime.

>>94952078
Hello, fellow Orthodox

>>94952141
Most anime these days are fucking single cours, what are you talking about?

>>94952049
>I need skydaddy to tell me not to be a degenerate

>>94952150
I'm saying that if you watched the first 6 episodes of every new anime before deciding to drop it you would do nothing but watch anime and low quality ones at that. 6 is too many is what I am trying to say, most people go for the rule of 3 with new shows.

>>94952049
>there's not divine punishment...
>let's opress our fellow man!
Everybody that thinks this is a logical step is a sociopath

>>94952161
>I'm so brain-deficient that I cant understand what I've read

>>94952164
This isn't a new show though, it's an established one with seasons I've already enjoyed. I gave it more of a chance than I would otherwise normally

>>94952182
>Everybody that thinks this is a logical step is a sociopath
Or uneducated/ignorant which accounts for a lot of people now and the majority of people in the past.

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>>94950795
Sea Cucumber!!!!
>Who has a safety word in a relationship

>>94951366
Welcome to /co/.

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>Not a whole episode of comfy rick and morty chilling at a spa

Still a good ep tho
Too much emphasis on morty though, needed more RIIIICK

>I hate this show because it's shallow and pretentious
>here's a bunch of babby's first community college tier philosophy and theology

Anyone got links to high quality versions of season 3 so faR?

>>94952262
Rick isn't interesting though.
He's just some sociopath that doesn't give a fuck about anything.
Morty is the character that makes the show and is the only reason it works.

Imagine you are on the jury in a murder trial

There's a lot of evidence for the guilt of the man on trial. multiple eyewitnesses to the murder, video recordings of the murder, tons of DNA evidence, so on and so forth

But, the defense lawyer claims, that evidence is not 100% proof, and the murder was actually committed by an alien, which nobody saw and defies all logic and reason.

But since you can't be SURE either way which is what really happened, you should give equal likelihood to both theories and therefore cannot convict.

Do you buy this reasoning? Because billions of religious people have.

>>94952312
>interesting
who gives a shit about interesting its a sci-fi action comedy. what matters is who kills the most aliens and gets the most laughs
morty makes the show work yes but he sucks

>>94951758
No, the episode is saying that religious people consider their faith good, and their doubts toxic.
Which makes sense.

>>94950880
Wow it's almost like atheism is a phase most rational people eventually grow out of. No, can't be. Has to be the brainwashing of one of my vague enemy complexes.

>>94952337
>it's almost like atheism is a phase most rational people eventually grow out of

Rational people don't grow out of rationality anon

>Stacy is left in the toxic cylinder
no

>>94952322
>what matters is who kills the most aliens and gets the most laughs
Rick is a nihilistic gary-stu that can never die and will always get out of any situation and doesn't actually care about anything. Him killing aliens carries no weight and is completely meaningless and doesn't work by itself without someone else there to make it funny or make the action have tension. Is why I found his moments in that pickle episode so damn dull until he got to the prison and actually interacted with other characters and the comedy could start to work again.

>>94950877
Fuck Stacy, need porn of Jessica's big boobed friend with the pee fetish.

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>>94952316
You already posted this on a Sausage Party Thread like an hour ago and got called a retard. What makes you think people on this thread won't call you a retard? Retard.

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Well, at least /co/ had /ss/

>>94950795
Episode kind of felt like something from season 1 but I didn't really laugh at all. I mean I guess detoxified Morty was entertaining but none of the comedy stuck out to me. In any case this was probably the strongest episode of S3 so far at least from a plot perspective.

>>94950823
Because ir results in 300 reply threads with ten images.

god almost certainly doesn't exist and nobody with access to all the information on the web has any excuse for believing in one. When your great grandparents only got their information from people in their immediate physical vicinity and whatever local authorities existed that ignorance was excusable, but today it just means you're lazy.

the personal god that listens to your thoughts and prayers and sometimes answers them doesn't exist. flip a coin 100 times and pray to your god to make it heads every time. get others to pray with you, donate money to your church if you think it helps. record results. easy proof.

no creator or vengeful is required to explain anything we see, everything from evolution to disease to thunder to the big bang is well understood to have arisen from natural causes. Yes the universe can come from nothing, physics allows it.

Souls don't exist. Everything intrinsic to your personal being is in the physical brain. Studies of brain injuries reveal this clearly. Your identity, your sense of self, preferences, memories, morals, quirks, everything you love or hate or that drives any action is chemistry in your head and can be altered.

Free will doesn't exist either. MRI brain scans can predict what a person will choose before they are aware of making the choice.

When you die, there is nothing else. You know it because you've all been dead before you were born. What was that like? There you go champ. You have only these few decades to experience what it is to be. Spend it learning about the universe, not worshipping to some badly written fiction.

Also Rick and Morty sucks.

REDDIT
AND
MEMEY

>>94952386
She isn't. Every episode has a post-credits scene.

>>94952346
>The entire pragmatic appeal of atheism is the pleasure from the things religious beliefs prohibit
>The dissatisfaction of aspirituality and separation from the majority of people's beliefs may very well outweigh the immediate gratification of doing what religion told you not to
The most pragmatic rationality here would be divesting into at the very least spiritual reflection or cultural Christianity, if not practicing religion. You can hate that fact as much as you want, but from a purely logical standpoint it's the contextual truth.

>>94952394
Everyone has a pee fetish, or most importantly the writers have a pee fetish.

>>94952432
I'll take stephen Hawking's word over an edgy 10 year old on the internet cheers.

Mega pls

>>94952432
uh uh uh uh FEDORAS!

>>94952476
Isn't Stephen Hawking a fedora?

>>94952466
the appeal of atheism is that it's true. no one pretends its uplifting or optimistic or makes you feel good. on the contrary, it's a pretty scary idea that takes courage to face head on.

you could argue religion makes you happier, you could argue it makes society better (it doesn't) but none of that makes it true. so is it better to believe a pleasant lie or a distasteful truth?

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>>94952432
Mmh, nice comment my fellow atheist, upvoted. *tips*

>>94952417
Why did he let himself turn back again?

>>94951963

Christian in Pakistan, Egypt or India I'm guessing?

>>94952466
>The entire pragmatic appeal of atheism is the pleasure from the things religious beliefs prohibit
He says this like degenerate protestants don't ignore most religious proscriptions anyway.

>>94950795
So it's crossed with an on/off switch?

>>94952476
Hawking has explicitly said no god was needed to create the universe, even made a book and tv series that touched on the matter (The Grand Design) so I'm not sure what your point is

>>94951987
>turned to

Currently is a kleptocracy

>>94951854
I don't believe in God but I wish I did. Sometimes a man just needs to pray and hope things go alright.

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HOT

and this is why agnosticism is the real answer

>>94952580
the real answer is Gnosticism
stay plugged in Hylic

>>94952580
As a Christian I find "agnosticism" (I put it in quotations because I have fundamental issues to how the term has come to be used) much worse than atheism. Be hot or cold, but be lukewarm and you are spit out.

>>94952501
Christianity is only pleasant for those who know little about it (which includes many of its followers). The teachings of Christ require an incredible amount of willpower that comes down to a lot more than just "believing," contrary to what you get from a lot of American Sunday schools.

There's shit that scares me a lot about Christianity; not about what happens if you disobey God, but what obeying God theoretically entails.

>>94952580
agnostics are people rational enough to know gods and souls and afterlives are stupid fictions but too cowardly to face the notion of non-existence after death and a universe that doesn't care about you in the slightest.

If you were really agnostic I could tell you I'm God and command you to worship me and give me money on penalty of eternal hell, and since you can't prove me wrong you'd have to do it just in case I was telling the truth.

>>94950795
in a strange way, this actually kinda pro-religion. These people consider the most toxic parts of themselves to be their idolatry, hedonism and lack of faith. Same with the kids and their desires to destroy.

I can't tell if Morty is actually a psychopath or if he just feels like his empathy is toxic due to spending so much time with Rick. Rick certainly thought his attachment to his grandson was toxic but his Nihilism to be totally healthy.

>>94950880
Personally I complain about it because it's some low hanging fruit type shit. It's a safe easy dig with zero consequences and because you know that if they would attack any other religion their would be an endless shit storm because of it.

>>94952580
Agnosticism is separate from atheism, it just describes the confidence in your belief. You can be a Christian but still be uncertain to the point of just saying "well, I might as well! what if he does exist?"

It's a strength of belief thing. The presence of belief is a binary, but agnosticism describes (along with gnositic qualities) the relative intensity within either position. I'm agnostic in the sense that I admit I don't know everything in the universe and there might be something fundamentally wrong with my understanding... but an atheist in the sense that nothing I've seen has convinced me yet that I am wrong.

And I'm far enough away from my shitty teenage years and I've had enough emotional turmoil and people dying under my care to have thought about it beyond a stupid hat I'd never wear.

>>94952618
That's not what the term means, but okay son

>>94950880
This. Fucking /pol/ ruins everything.

>>94952616
>>94952618
no, I just don't carw about blindly worshipping anything, because the existence of God is something that can neither be proven nor disproven, and claiming otherwise is just stupid.
If there really is a God, I'm confident he's good enough to understand that not believing in him doesn't inherently make me a bad person so he won't punish me. If there isn't at least I didn't engage in stupid wars because of my beliefs.
If there is a God and he's vengeful, then I'm glad I'm not worshipping him anyway.

>>94952616
>. The teachings of Christ require an incredible amount of willpower that comes down to a lot more than just "believing"

On the contrary, your bible specifically states that whether you get into heaven is dictated by one single thing: accepting jesus christ as your personal savior. And the most important thing you can do with your life is convert others to your church.

Being a good person or excersizing willpower are ancillary. Those are things you have to do anyway to function in a society. Control your base urges and act with consideration for the people around you. Without religion we'd still have laws against murder and theft because people don't want to get robbed and killed, and people would still have to obey those laws or be punished.

The purpose of your religion is to elevate the clergy into positions of power and give the church money and to spread itself as much as possible so they have more power and more money. It's harsh but it's true.

>>94951042
You unironically used the word 'degenerate'. You are fake news!

Why does everyone say that Morty became a psychopath?

>>94951854
Your on /co/

You've probably imagined a character before.
You've probably imagined a world for that character.
you've probably written or thought up a story for that world.
Does that character cease to exist when you finish writing their story?

>"There's no such thing as hell Morty!"
>literally fought the devil in season 1
Did they fuck up?

>>94950823
Because we're not allowed to make fun of Islam. We're allowed to flaggelate ourselves for having a religion, but we're not allowed to diss worse religions like the "Magic hippy organic woo chakra crystla bullshit" cult or the other death cult.

Also, FUCK THIS EPISODE!

I was expecting a deep moral about dealing with who you are in a healthy way instead of literally dumping your shitty parts into a container someone else has to deal with...

And do you know what we got? Some shitty edgelord bullcrap where "Our toxic parts make us who we are" and Rick, edgelord magiscientist supreme rick, his idea of "Healthy" is suddenly a wimpy hippy bitch that can't even accept some views don'-.

Motherfucker, this bluepilled cancerfest was dissing SJWs for not hating "Toxic" views enough.

Anyway, back on track...

No, Justin Soiledpants and Dumb Hamon, our Shadows are a part of our psyche. Our """Toxic Parts"""... Fuck, how does it feel to realize a show that regularly gets called the smartest show on television tried to tackle this subject and did so with far less maturity than a fucking PS2 game named Persona 4?

>>94952664
Different Rick. Y'know, maybe.

>>94952666
>Missing the entire point about how the "toxic" bits were self defined, and the entire "shtty parts into a container" caused a lot of problems.

>>94952648
>can neither be proven nor disproven, and claiming otherwise is just stupid
Every atheist knows this, it's nothing revolutionary. Quite the opposite, it's a trivial non-argument. Russell's Teapot. Of course you can't disprove it. You can't disprove anything. That's not the point.

What's the evidence? Overwhelmingly that every religious text is a lie, and there is no god that answers prayers or created shit. That's what matters.

>>94952509
He had no way to escape and was so fucking zen that he accepted his inevitable fate instantly.

I felt the episode was too healthy-Morty centric. I'd have preferred seeing more of the differences in Rick, such as what he does with his sciences and how his family reacts to his new personality. I'd have even liked seeing toxic Rick and Morty more if it meant less of the healthy Morty. Still, the episode was okay.
I hope to see many pictures of those women Morty got with.

>>94952122
What are you talking about? This was easily the best episode of the season. Hell I'd even put it about on par with the better half of season 2.

>>94950880
Why blame /pol/ for the neckbeard fedora meme when it's something liberals pushed and use regularly?

Are all the "Ugh, fucking /pol/" tards here too young to remember what the internet was like fifteen years ago, or are they just SJWs here to try and poison our metaphorical well by shitting in it?

Also, I'm an atheist and I hate all religions. Not equally, though, because while Christianity is kinda dumb, it helped make western society what it is, warts and all. Islam is a cancer, hippy bullshit is a cancer, and glorified nihilism: The Religion (Everything that claims we need a balance between good and evil and you gain enlightenment through sitting on your ass) is slightly less cancer than the aforementioned two.

>>94952668
That's true
Still, the old Rick joked about religion all the time too despite having literally met the devil

>>94952666
and of course it's a fucking /v/edditor

>>94952651
>accepting jesus christ as your personal savior
and keeping his commandments
I love how everyone forgets that part

>>94952689
you cant disprove anything that's not true

>>94952692
that was the point. morty naturally is mostly beta.

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>>94952337
Yeah man totally, eventually everybody realizes santa clause was actually real this whole time

>>94952697
You can't be certain that the Rick who met the devil was in anymore than that episode. There's decent evidence that we have had episodes in multiple universes.

That and Rick is a hypocrite, so big shock there. Or he might just view the Devil as more of an abstract, or some advanced universal intelligence that he defeated without the need for God

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>>94952694
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AN ARGUMENT, TARD!
>>94952684
>Claiming I'm missing a point I understood fully because you missed the point of my post.

You never played Persona 4, eh?

---

Here, to all the stupid little shits here, let me post a heirarchy of arguments. Read it, and if your debate opponent ever uses an argument beneath yours, you instantly win and he (Or she, in the case of /co/mblrs here to shill for the show their diversity-hire wimmin fucked up) needs to fuck off.

>>94952684
This.
If you're getting triggered because of a word that happens to also be used by tumblr I have no sympathy for you.

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>>94952718
Santa Claus is real, unironically

>>94952689
You can disprove lots of things, you can disprove that the earth is flat, for example, all you need is proof. We don't have proof that a God exists, and we don't have proof that he doesn't.
So, again, pick whatever side you want, engage in your meaningless arguments, I don't mind. I'll just be over here enjoying parts of life that are more important to me.

>>94952725
Bitch I don't need to give you anything.

>>94952721
Literally his only reason for not believing in god is because he doesn't like the idea of someone more powerful than him.

>>94952721
Another thing is that Mr Needful might not be the actual literal Christian devil
Like in that doctor who episode where they fight "the beast" which is the precursor to all devil myths across the universe

>>94950880
>>94951291
>>94952337

People seem to miss the fact that 4chan got "older" but not at the same rate as the original population did. Newfags came in, typically 15-20 years old.

Millenials have a split. The older half is majority atheist. The younger half is majority Christian. That's why recent trends online have shifted.

Why are people focusing so much on one little example of how the personal interpretation of toxicity works? And why the Christian one? I'd have thought more people would have reacted to the children becoming murderers. Why do all of them have the same interpretation? How do they know such intense violence, such as beheading?

>>94952706
it's absolutely true. Whatever you think you've disproven, someone with enough imagination can come up with a reason why it might not really be disproven. Maybe a demon changed the results of your test to fuck with you, or maybe everything's a dream you're having so no proofs or experiments are actually real.

That's why "you can't disprove it" has never been a useful argument. Rather it's the last bastion of somebody who has none.

>>94952739
btfo

>>94952756
>The younger half is majority Christian
Really? I find that hard to believe

>>94952735
>>94952684
Why do you faggots love using the phrase "Missing the point"?

Do you hope I'll think you're right? Do you hope people here will think you're right? Do you think you've uncovered some amazing magical way to get out of having to debate, think, and defend your shitty and objectively wrong views?

This was a bad episode of a bad season of a show that's been on a downward spiral with the rare good episode for a fucking long time. But because the downward spiral accelerated when the wimmins were hired for diversity reasons and they felt like making Rick cry and felt like going all BBC Sherlock "We're so clever, stop liking our protagonist, he's not healthy" on us...

You know what? There's no point even talking to you tumblr tards. I could make an argument 5000 words long and you still wouldn't read it. Go back to calling me a Nazi. Then go back to your safe space on tumblr.

>>94952745
Also I think everyone forgets that one time he actually prayed to god
He doesn't not believe in god he just denounces him

>>94952771
>one time
oh it happened more than once, anon, definitely

>>94952725
>N-no! you missed my point, even though my post was almost entirely built on rambling, "ironic" excessive quotation marks, video game references, and insulting nicknames

It may not be true that nothing in the universe matters... but I'm pretty certain you don't

>>94952758
Oh for fuck's sake, this old argument.

My Stand, [GAS GAS GAS], is right fucking behind you. It travelled through the internet, through your screen, and it's right fucking behind you. It's going to unleash poisonous and flammable gasses that will kill you and everyone around you and blow your shit up unless you send $1,000,000 to me over paypal anonymously. If you don't have the money, you'd better borrow it from the bank and any loan shark you can before I turn your hometown into a permanently-uninhabitable crater. I can't prove that I have a Stand without using it on you or some innocents, but you can't prove that I don't have a Stand because non-Stand users can't see Stands.

Will you give me the money? Or will you say "You can't prove you don't have a stand"? After all,
>you can't disprove it" has never been a useful argument. Rather it's the last bastion of somebody who has none
riiiiight?

>>94952788
>i'm gonna use all my tumblr words like rambling and continue objecting to tone instead of the points made because thinking is hard
>u dont matter haha checkmate bigot

Somebody's triggered and trying too hard to seem cool. Tumblr's that way, sweetie.

>>94952788
It's not that nothing matters, it's that meaning is relative.
You hear people die in the news all the time, you quickly forget about it, because it doesn't really matter to you. But that person who died was someone's parent, child or sibling, and they meant a lot to them.
In a universe so big and infinite, what really matters is what matters to you and you only.
That's how I see it at least.

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>>94952740
>you can disprove that the earth is flat
you actually can't. Flat earthers have found a way to explain away any evidence for a round earth.

So since you can't disprove a flat earth, we should all live our lives and build all our satellites and plan our boat routes on the assumption that it might be true right?

This is how stupid agnostics sound

>>94952802
What the fuck are you going on about? Of course I tell you to fuck off, because you're insane

>>94952725
A. By your own logic, you lose because you resorted to namecalling and degradation over a substantive argument.
B. You liking how one story works doesn't make it objectively better. You are comparing two superficially similar narratives and drawing conclusions about the authors based on assumptions that directly contradict the work in question.

>>94952767
Are you like 15-17 or something? Almost no one you argue with online will change their mind. The only thing you can realistically hope for is that other people read your points and agree with you.

Anyone arguing with you obviously disagrees with you, and arguments on the internet typically INCREASE their confidence in their opinion, regardless of what you throw at them in a debate. I simply didn't see the need to debate with you because your points are so shitty that anyone else reading them is driven away by default, so what purpose does having a structured, nuanced argument with you have?

>>94952765
young people are contrarian by nature. rebellious and antiauthoritarian. now that society is shifting away from religion, they're diving head first into it. not because it makes sense, but because it fights THE MAN

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>>94952767
You seem upset

>>94952739
I think you mean "was" instead of "is", that guy has been dead for a long ass fucking time my dude, he was also not santa by any modern standard just one of the many inspirations we took for the current fat man

>>94952812
Well, that explains why nihilists act the way they do.

This planet, society, the future, and goodness matter to some people. And others use "The universe is very large so it doesnt really matter" to rationalize why they have nothing in their life that matters.

>>94952834
The Second Opinion Bias also plays strongly into this

>>94952767
Disbelief in god is seen as toxic by Rick, so religion is seen as a positive. If you weren't so triggered by just the idea that people don't believe in 'God' then you're a bad Abrahamic follower.

>>94952838
>"was"
>Implying humans are mortal and cease to exist
>Implying we dont live for eternity
>Implying to imply

>>94952841
I'm as nihilist as they come... an absurdist. Nothing inherently matters.

Yet, I recognize that I can as a human make things matter for me, so I choose to have moral axioms and place value on things like life, etc. because it makes my life better.

>>94952818
A. Wrong. By my own logic, you already lost because you started with the name-calling and degradation first. Tumblr's that way, honey.
B. One story tackles the subject of a person's id with tact, purpose, and maturity. Another uses it as an excuse to say toxic a lot, say you shouldn't trust """toxic people""" because they'll betray you, and remind you that Rick is so super special he can turn a whole world evil in an afternoon because this show has stopped being about the adventures Rick and Morty going on and started being about Rick the all-powerful ubermensch and his cute broken edgy boi Morty. To say one tackles the subject matter of a person's negative side better is objective fact, whether you like that or not. Run along, now. Back to tumblr.

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>>94951042
>after watching a lot of jordan peterson's stuff

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do not speak to atheists. if you find one, tell an adult immediately.

>>94952767
You seem very obsessed with people thinking you are more objective then them despite the fact that you continually state your opinions as though they were fact.

>>94952851
Souls are the biggest crock of shit out there though. It's something that made sense thousands of years ago, and just became a cultural thing.

What is a soul? Answer what it even does to me, because it's honestly just a crap shoot for explanations out there. Say an old guy is super pious for his whole life. Super nice guy. Then he falls and hits his head. Cognitively he's still there, his memories are intact, and he is still (defined by his family) him. However, they notice he seems angrier. More prone to lie. More likely to drink. More likely to get violent.

Did he die when he hit his head? Is this a new person, a new soul? Or was his soul impacted by the fall? (I've seen a case like this btw on my psych clerkship, shit was fucked up)

>>94952841
Personally I don't really get why people need to label themselves based on their philosophical beliefs. If they're into that, more power to them, but I don't really care for that. So I never really understood the subtle differences between all the different labels etc.
That said, people usually first attach to the idea of nihilism because it gives them an excuse for all of their problems, it enables depression. "If nothing really matters, why try?"
But as far as I know, that's just nihilism for dummies, the actual belief is something more like "nothing really objectively matter, because meaning is subjective and relative".
I might be wrong though, I haven't read about this stuff in a while, and as I said I'm not the best at distinguishing the definitions.

>>94950880
I'm going to reply seriously instead of memeing at you. I've been an atheist for most of my life now, and at some point I realized the so-called "progressivism" that a lot of other atheists were very fond of was just another religion. I flirted with it and it sure felt like a religion from the inside, complete with the science-denying bits. The vast majority of allegedly anti-religious fiction today, whether comedy or drama, is progressive. I won't prop up progressives, or their recent favorite, Islam, in a fight against Christians. Non-retarded Christians seem to like me (and sustainable civilization) more. There is atheistic and anti-religious fiction that is not progressive, but it is a different beast and not what we're seeing in nearly every case.

>>94952851
>muh special snowflake syndrome
>we're somehow different from literally everything else in the universe on a fundamental level
>Why? Because I just feel it that way man
Yawn

>>94950795
"Have you ever been peed on before? Oh my god, Yum."

>>94952907
man JelloApocalypse was right, there really is someone with a pee fetish on the staff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_h062haCH0

>>94952869
I want to fuck that atheist

>>94950795
*tips fedora* What a great show!

>>94952891
>I'm not an atheist because other people who also claim to be atheists are idiots

>>94952921
I knew this was more than a (((Coincidence)))

>>94952907
>>94952907
>Loves her family
>knows what "s'more" stands for
>Sexually adventurous (docking, pee stuff)
>Stipper tits

Why do we care about Jessica again?

>>94952891
so you're smart enough to be atheist but dumb enough to buy into right-wing redneck propoganda, and that leads you to reject the majority of atheists who are smarter than you are.

You won't be missed.

>>94952814
>ou actually can't. Flat earthers have found a way to explain away any evidence for a round earth.
can they explain time zones?
can they explain why you can see further along the horizon the higher you go
can they explain gps
can they explain why different parts of the world see different constellations

>>94952883

You are confusing nihilism with postmodernism. Nihilism is simply the position that something (like meaning or objective reality) does not exist. Subjective or relative existence is a response to nihilism, not strictly part of it.

>>94952409
Man u really countered his argument. Kys redditard.

>>94952877
>What is a soul? Answer what it even does to me, because it's honestly just a crap shoot for explanations out there. Say an old guy is super pious for his whole life. Super nice guy. Then he falls and hits his head. Cognitively he's still there, his memories are intact, and he is still (defined by his family) him. However, they notice he seems angrier. More prone to lie. More likely to drink. More likely to get violent.
You misplace material and immaterial
If something cause brain defect after which he cannot control his own actions or radically changed due to that, it doesnt imply anything on soul, but about the fact, that he got brain damage.
The point that Body and spirit desires different things are no new in Christianity (or be it in any religion). Technically Body is a weapon, by which we operate on the matter. One of the impact of fall of Humans, by Christianity is desynchronization of Body-Mind-Spirit relations.
TL/DR to answer your questions:
>Did he die when he hit his head?
No, Death of human is separation of body and soul. If he is alive, he has a soul.
>Is this a new person, a new soul?
No, Just got a brain damage that caused malfunction of body.
>Or was his soul impacted by the fall?
Answer to second question

>>94952950
yes all of those, actually

>>94952971
Really?

>>94952862
Broseph, that post was the first time I addressed you and I never insulted you. I don't use Tumblr, and I don't care one way or the other about your points. I just find it amusing (this is the part where I start insulting you by the way, bud) that you seem to find your own beliefs so correct that you will ignore the same material you cited as part of your argument. It has nothing to do with your politics, just how sad and pathetic you are as a person. They way you espouse your values as fact is no different from the average tumblrina attack helicopter but your self-precieved rigorousness makes you too defensive to overcome your willful ignorance.

>>9495293
>not an atheist
Pro tip: "I have been" means I still am.

>>94952814
Just because they have an explanation doesn't mean they're a fucking good one. Nothing a flat earther spouts is viable.

>>94952982
To some extent. It mostly boils down to "The Jews did it, and you only don't think it's possible because they told you it isn't."

>>94952995
was for
>>94952930

>>94952725
>arguing about subjective preferences
>posts some bullshit hierarchy of arguments as if it means shit in a subjective argument

dude you need to chill

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>>94952982
yep

>>94952740
You cannot prove a negative; you can only explain phenomena so thoroughly it excludes all other explanations

>>94952970
He was in complete control of his actions though. He had no expressed confusion over what he was doing. If the soul is so completely controlled by the body (physical mind) as to it being so easily overshadowed, and our actions/expressed beliefs can be separate from our "true selves" and not impact our soul, that means that our "holiness" is predetermined and that any actions we take are irrelevant.

So Calvinism? You a follower?

>>94952951
But wouldn't just believing that nothing matters be a fundamentally incomplete belief? It's like you're missing half of a whole, why believe that nothing matters if you get no conclusion from that? There's no reason to stop there and stop asking questions. If nothing matters, why live? What is meaning in the first place? etc. I don't get how anyone could declare themselves a nihilist and stop there.

>>94952999
just like how nothing religious people spout is viable. Studying the logic of flat earthers really puts religion into perspective.

They are able to explain literally every evidence you offer that counters their worldview, and have plenty of "evidence" of their own to support their model. It's interesting to see what human imagination is capable of, and to realize we can all fall into these pitfalls of mental gymnastics.

>>94952869
Pic related makes me wonder. Are there any atheists that love religon like a person likes greek mythology? A majority of atheists both in real life and fiction come of as anti theist. I know there are cases where atheists reference verses from the Bible in their works, but I'm curious if there's an atheist that can recite parts of the Bible or Koran and explain why it's a good example of literature like a hardcore star wars fan can recite parts of the movies and explain why they are good scenes

>>94953028
>If nothing matters, why live?
because we want to
>What is meaning in the first place?
for us to decide

it's not as complicated as it seems.

>>94953033
We evolved that way, though. The human brain is wired to respond to being proven wrong the same way as if we were being physically attacked. You fight to preserve your identity the same as if you were fighting to keep your arm.

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Where were you when the world turned into Competitive Overwatch?

>>94953045
They would if the Bible was good literature

>>94953045
I reference Judeo-Christianity, Buddhism, and Hinduism all the time as literary devices. Religious imagery is great for fiction.

I grew up Catholic and have a good memory, so honestly I'm atheist because I know my bible really well... but I don't use it to back up moral shit

>>94953028

No. It is a conclusion, the only reasonable result of radical skepticism. Nobody said you had to stop thinking or questioning just because your argument found a conclusion.

>>94953046

>because we want to

Nihilistic Hedonism.

>for us to decide

Existentialism.

This is just housekeeping. If you're running all these ideas together, you probably don't understand them very well. There's nothing wrong with asking the questions you are, but you're squishing together half a century of thought.

>>94953045
Sure there are theology majors who don't believe in a deity but still have a passion for studying all the works that belief has inspired.

You'd probably find plenty of that in Europe, which is fairly secular, but in America you can't really go around saying "I think Christianity is false but let me explain how amazing the Bible is from a historical and literary perspective" because religion is very polarizing as a topic. We live in a Christian nation, people grow up indoctrinated by it, and those who break away from it tend to have a backlash from that indoctrination that pushes them into seething disdain. There's not a lot of room for dispassionate discussion.

>>94950880
No it's the same reason I complain about other jokes that have been done literally a billion times.

What's the point of the same joke over and over again? Especially when the joke itself had an, ironically, preachy side to it.

>>94953026
>So Calvinism? You a follower?
I'm Orthodox

> If the soul is so completely controlled by the body (physical mind) as to it being so easily overshadowed, and our actions/expressed beliefs can be separate from our "true selves" and not impact our soul, that means that our "holiness" is predetermined and that any actions we take are irrelevant.
No, I didnt mean that. I meant that sometimes Body acts independently and it is especially noticeable with someone with trauma similar.

The short expression would be that "Spirit desires one, Heart desires another and mind desires nether of those choices" gets more noticeable.

Of course we have free will by which we conduct operations, but I was focusing on part of sin-virtue, that can only be committed, if person isn't mentally ill. So we see a severe malfunction of a weapon, not that of a spirit.

>>94953046
>because we want to
yes, because we place meaning in our own lives, and realize subconsciously that our own life matters /to ourselves/. But that would render the conclusion "nothing matters" meaningless, because again if meaning is for us to decide, it means some things do HAVE meaning, which can't really exist in a purely nihilistic mindset.
Either nothing, not even your own life, matters, and you're a nihilist, or meaning is assigned subjectively, and you're not.
That's why nihilism seems like an incomplete belief to me.

>>94952757
Humans are inherently violent and destructive. It's the "hunter" part of our "hunter/gatherer" genesis. Children are especially prone to violent reactions, and those violent tendencies are what the children consider to be toxic about themselves.

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>>94952316
>But, the defense lawyer claims, that evidence is not 100% proof, and the murder was actually committed by an alien, which nobody saw and defies all logic and reason.
It doesn't defy all logic and reason if there's a precedent, smart guy.

>>94953095
So only one desire matters, and only one is immortal... it's just not the one that doesn't control our actions, and isn't reflected in them accurately.

So someone born a sociopath with no redeeming qualities by a clinically defined brain lesion or defect is just out of balance, and may actually get into heaven?

>>94952757
Children get told that violence is bad in all cases.

Adults tend to realise that sometimes violence is necessary or required.

And you don't NEED to know about something like beheading. Even a child knows that a whole is made out of parts.

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>>94953111

I hope this was just for punchline.

>>94952648
"Fully knowing" the truth of God isn't the point. I don't even think it's fully possible for humans.

>>94952651
Christ condemned profiteering off of religion in no uncertain terms. He fucking whipped those who did.

>>94953045
It's easier to like dead religions because they don't show up 6am at your door step or scamming gullible people out of their money.

But religion loving atheists do exist. They usually call themself agnostics or non believer tho.

>>94952316
Actually that's the agnostic view. Religious people are pretty sure it was aliens because they find the lawyer trustworthy and compelling, and they grew up being told aliens are real.

>>94953071
>This is just housekeeping. If you're running all these ideas together, you probably don't understand them very well. There's nothing wrong with asking the questions you are, but you're squishing together half a century of thought.

I mean the worst part of all of the questions is we don't even know if were really asking the right ones.

>>94953114
>So only one desire matters, and only one is immortal
Yes
>For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. (Romans 8:6)

>it's just not the one that doesn't control our actions, and isn't reflected in them accurately.
Not quite exactly. According to Basil of Caesarea, "becoming a god (Not big G) is the highest goal of all"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)
We must strive to become more Godlike, by which it also means dominance. This, of course also include the dominance over the body, that is an instrument. This is the prime reason of fasting, maintaining moderation of urges of carnal pleasures.

>So someone born a sociopath with no redeeming qualities by a clinically defined brain lesion or defect is just out of balance, and may actually get into heaven?

Depends on the illness we are talking about. If one who is born with severe deficiency, that cannot be responsible for his actions, wont sin. There is, of course, no general formula that can apply to every case, but if damage is severe, it is sort of a easing condition

>have you ever been peed on? Yummy
>Summer pees a lot

OMG ARE FAT TITTIES AND SUMMER HOOK UP AT SOME POINT

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Never heard of these stores but I think I get the joke.

>>94953157
>I don't even think it's fully possible for humans.
Then why pretend otherwise and go as far as to try to bring other people into this belief of yours. Why force other people into it, why baptize children who can't pick a belief for themselves yet? Why act like a goddamn cult? I'm glad you can be sure, but don't bring other people into this.

>>94952648
Only people who think they're "above it all" claims to be agnostic

>>94952182
>It wasn't REAL Communism!

>>94953255
haha brilliant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f3TVLxwiF0

>>94951042
Christianity states that in order to be welcomed into the kingdom of heaven, one must accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. Therefore, anyone who does NOT accept Christ as their Lord will burn in hell. Therefore, every Jew who died in the Holocaust is burning in hell, but many of the Nazis are in heaven since many of them identified as Christian and Christ would've forgiven their sins as long as they held him in their hearts. Does that sound like a system concocted by a just and moral God?
Whatever good came from Christianity was in spite of itself, not because of itself.

>>94953155
Yeah, you are a pretty good joke.

>>94953033
>>94952316
You guys are funny, really.

Simulation.
Theory.

BOOM

You guys can't at all argue against the possible existence of a being that has possibly created this world simply due to the fact we know we can create our own simulated world given enough time and processing power.

Therefore we have no idea whether or not our world is in fact simulated or not.

I hope the fall from your high horse hasn't killed you.

>>94952580
I go by agnostic atheism. There is no evidence of God, therefore I don't believe in God, but I accept that there is a possibility of a god and will accept the existence of a god or gods should sufficient evidence present itself.

>>94953272
>Therefore, anyone who does NOT accept Christ as their Lord will burn in hell
That's not how it works, you can accept him without saying the words or even knowing his name.

>>94953296
Why does it matter if we're in a simulation or not? What does that knowledge change in our lives, really?

>>94953296
I really can't tell what posts are supposed to be ironic anymore.

>>94953272
>one must accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.
And keep his commandments

>>94952921
that end song was fuckin ace

>>94953272
God was never just. Jesus was born after many people had died and Jesus lived for YEARS before dying himself which of course mean during his living years people had died. The religion itself have a ton of plot holes.

>>94953272
Also, Nice way to portray Evangelical protestant movements as representative of entire Christianity, by the way

>Whatever good came from Christianity was in spite of itself, not because of itself.
wow, edgy

>>94953272
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
Yeah, they probably are.

>>94953306
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."
-John 3:18

>>94953298
You should go with Pascal's Wager instead, it's simply better for you.

Also all the ancients texts were meant to be the vessels of proof, even if we corrupted them over time.

Think about if Jesus came down today and traveled the world then disappeared again...

Do you really think people 2,000 years from now would believe it?

>B-buh videOH!

Won't be believed 2,000 years from now.

>>94952417
She is the hottest redhead in this show

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>>94953296
>BOOM
BIG REVEAL! I TURNED MYSELF INTO A SIMULATION MORTY!

>>94953324
>Horrowing of hell
>virtuous pagans

>>94953317
>Some of people in the world agree it's possible we're in a simulation
>You think you can say anything in the face of that.

I laugh in your face, you've no right to talk

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>>94950795

>>94953329
Why wont you continue, go on... nevermind Ill do that for you

>19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
>20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
>21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

>>94953349
/ourguy/

>>94953330
Isn't believed right now.

>>94952088
its not completely untrue, for the simplest answer look to cultures based around non abrahamic religions and note the differences in family structure, honor values, etc.

>>94953330
It's possible that God exists, but there is no concrete evidence. Therefore, I do not believe, but am open to the idea should concrete evidence present itself. I don't subscribe to religions because I don't find them moral.

>>94953329
That doesn't change the fact of what I said. Trying to be literal just makes you look foolish.

>>94953360
I don't like my good actions to be attributed to god. No, everything that I do is my own, god doesn't act through me, not anyone else, we are our own people responsible for what we do and don't do.

>>94953330
>You should go with Pascal's Wager instead, it's simply better for you.
Pascal's Wager assumes that God rewards belief instead of punishes it.
Pascal's Wager also doesn't specify a specific religion.

>>94953365
It's an odd thought process which completely disassociates the whole from the sum of it's parts.
They don't realise that the only reason Saudi Arabia and such can remain oppressive shitholes is via the general consensus of most of the population. They somehow think the country itself and it's values exists separately to the values and morals of the citizens that compose it.

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>>94953393
His most famous work was titled "Defense of the Christian Religion"

>>94953400
kinky

>>94953397
Values and morals that are propagated through their belief system. I'm not sure which side you are arguing...

>>94953397
It is more the self-deception that the baseline of humanity is a harmonious, compassionate being that will innately go out of its way to defend those entirely unlike itself.

This was a nature long cultured in the countries of Europe. One from which the derided White Man's Burden arose from. A sense that all others could be as great as we are if we simply showed them the proper way.

>>94952520
>crossed
basically
the way I understood it: it removes what you yourself see as toxic
the kids see their violent behavior as toxic
>be a good kid, don't hit others
Christians see their sexuality as toxic
>Abstinence only crap
the fat people their need for unhealthy food
>unhealthy food is bad lose those pounds
and so on

>>94953360

>19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
>20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
All this is suggesting is that people know what's right and what is wrong and deliberately ignore the light that is Christ because it would expose their evil.

>21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Those who are good will come to Christ will come to him for Christ is good.

Going by this, the Jews in the Holocaust KNEW Christ was their lord and savior, but ignored this and rejected his name, therefore condemning themselves to hell. It also suggests that the Nazis knew that what they did was wrong, but deliberately ignored that it was wrong. However, if they came to know the truth and repented, they would go to heaven. Therefore, my point still stands.

>>94953380
>No, everything that I do is my own, god doesn't act through me, not anyone else, we are our own people responsible for what we do and don't do.
And who says that you dont?
It is YOUR faith and YOUR actions that is worthy of either praise or damnation.
Not everyone is Calvinist or reformed tradition, you know?

>(Sirach 15:14): "God made man from the beginning, and left him in the hand of his own counsel (free will)"

>>94953423
You should look into the Talmud.

>getting triggered by religious jokes
is this an american thing?

>>94953377
If you believe in Christ and repent your sins, you go to heaven. He died on the cross to free us from sin so we don't have to do Passover to get forgiven. If Nazis repented after the war, they'd go to Heaven, but unless the Jews converted before dying, they'd go to hell.

>>94953448
Yeah, pretty much

>>94952816
You really don't have any self awareness, do you? Thinking there's a god after the age of 12 is insane. Thinking real people can have magic powers after the age of 12 is insane. God and Jesus are fairy tales, just like Santa.

HOWEVER, these fairy tales exist for a reason. They teach us morality at an age when we aren't ready to grasp concepts like personal responsibility and why morality is important. Christianity has its place in this world as a primer to atheism and a tool for keeping out the mudslimes that want us both dead, do you understand?

And "Saying you can't prove something is the worst possible argument because I say so" is a bad argument. Do you understand?

>>94952823
Spoken like a newfag tard that's never changed his mind after reading a good argument.

Tumblr's over there, sweetie mchoney mccutiekins. Fuck off back to tumblr and read some AkechixAkira smut. That's closer to your level of reading comprehension, right?

>>94953423
>Going by this, the Jews in the Holocaust KNEW Christ was their lord and savior, but ignored this and rejected his name, therefore condemning themselves to hell.
Yes. Whats the problem? Many dies either by hands of a man or by natural causes, so what?

>It also suggests that the Nazis knew that what they did was wrong, but deliberately ignored that it was wrong. However, if they came to know the truth and repented, they would go to heaven. Therefore, my point still stands.
Are you genuinely stupid or trolling? Did you get your basic understanding of Christianity from Steven Anderson or IFB? believing also means that means to keep their commandments.

>James 2 14:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

i liked the episode, especially the Morty parts, although the way they dealed with Morty bothered me deep inside.

i wish Stacy comes back in the future and becomes unhealthily obsessed with Morty

>>94953414
I'm not saying that Pascal himself wasn't a massive Christfag, I'm saying that Pascal's Wager as an argument can't be used to justify belief in any specific religion. For example, it doesn't justify being a Christian instead of a Muslim, nor does it support Christianity over any theoretical religions that don't even exist.

also who cared about the god parts, they are barely relevant

>>94953393
Pascal's Wager says that if I threaten to have a nuclear detonation switch in my back pocket I'll use if you dumbfucks don't give me a million dollars, you should give me a million dollars because the alternative is the US getting nuked.

Pascal's Wager is a lie for cowards that need to rely solely on "Yeah, I'm probably not right, BUT WHAT IF I WAS RIGHT?! OMG WOULDN'T THAT BE SCARY?! DO WHAT I SAY SO I WON'T NUKE THE US AND GOD WON'T SEND YOU TO HELL!".

It's literally the worst possible argument a tard could make. It's also my personal "Yeah, you're too stupid to notice when you're wrong" moment. I'm telling the audience here why you're a tard, I'm telling you why you're a tard, then I'm leaving.

If you want to fight people over religion, fight a mudslime. https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/terror-2016.htm

How and why can I find all the episodes on Youtube like this?

I haven't even needed to torrent any episodes this season because they all keep appearing all over Youtube.

Why hasn't anyone cracked down on this?

>>94952088
It's not that they originated from judeo Christian practises, but religious structure has been an effective means of propagation of values through generational lines.

>>94953475
(edgy)

>>94953503
Yikes, you a really dumb. REALLY dumb.

The law of every major nation actually does take every single terrorist claim seriously. so you just shamed yourself.

We all have to agree that Pascal wager is stupid.

you have infinite chances of getting to hell or hells

>>94953503

Except the world actually takes such threats seriously, but they take more appropriate action.

>>94953490
I don't think the episode was implying that Marty was a sociopath so much as it just portrayed Marty as believing his empathy and moral convictions are toxic how much they have fucked him over during adventures.

>>94953546
>Marty

>>94953503
>Thinks he's intelligent
>Literal geniuses more intelligent than literally several of him put together believe in simulation theory as well as plenty that believe in God

>>94953448
I'm American and I just rolled my eyes and focused on the rest of the episode which was kinda... eh.

>The Rickshank Rickdemption
Promising start.

>Rickmancing the Stone
Loved the bucket-dude joke and the androids, but otherwise I'm very disappointed with the new writers

>Pickle Rick
Decent action scenes, but otherwise unremarkable

>Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender
Better than eps. 2-3 by a mile, but doesn't come close to anything like "Auto Erotic Assimilation" or "Total Rickall". I'd place it just above "Get Schwifty".

>The Whirly Dirly Conspiracy
Solid, but still below par.

>Rest and Ricklaxation
I've never been a fan of the "guy wants girl, guy gets a chance with girl, guy completely blows it" plot (mostly because I've seen it happen too many time to Steve from American Dad), but was an interesting look into their personalities and it had /ss/, so I'm staying optimistic.

Overall, Season 3 is the weakest one without a question. I'm hoping that, if there's a season 4, they'll either school the new writers or can them, both of which are, unfortunately, very unlikely.

>>94953503
You know, large swathes of the bible are dedicated to who should and shouldn't be stoned to death for their faults but just go ahead and keep acting like the Quran is the world's best murder manual.

>>94951989
wtf isnt Mexico mostly catholic

>>94953217
Fully knowing God doesnt mean that you cant or wont know God. It means that we cant know God in his FULLNESS. For details, you can see Energies-Essence distinction
Not that Anon btw

>>94953569
Jesus stood in from of a whore and saved her from a stoning. Muhammed never does that in the Quran. Also, as bad as Christianity is, modern Christian cultures aren't even close to being as bad as the cultures that have come from Islam.

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>>94953503
I agree that Pascal's Wager is a load of shit, but not for the reason you listed.

The general idea behind Pascal's Wager is that you lose nothing by believing, but gain an infinite reward if God actually exists. Faith is free — it doesn't cost "a million dollars".
Pascal's Wager treats faith as a free insurance policy against damnation.

>>94953546
i have issues with how the show acknowledge that everyone treats Morty better when he is his super confident self, he even get woman to like him "Everything for you Morty" , yet his crush doesn't acknowledge him, she even helps rick to get the old morty back, and says she doesn't care about morty anyways, and after that the show has her sorta acknowledge him, like saying men can be wimps , eventough Morty is actually badass a fuck and she doesn't know it.

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/CO/

I NEED YOU TO GET OFF THE AUTISM SPECTRUM RIGHT NOW. AND INSTEAD LOOK AT THIS!!!!!

TIME TRAVEL GUYS, FUCKING TIME TRAVEL!!!

>>94953548
it was actually just my tablets shitty autocorrect.

>>94953569
>I dont know what's the difference between civil, moral and ceremonial law, so I'll just post my post even though I dont understand complete difference

>>94953595
that's always been there

>>94953595
I can't believe Rick went back in time and killed Jesus to prove Atheism is real!!
Please don't take this post seriously.

>>94953595
That's always been there, but they're never gonna do time travel because it's too complicated. "A Rickle in Time" was written specifically to illustrate this point.

>>94953594
She didn't dislike healthy!Morty becuase he was confident, she just realized he was obviously self-centered and indifferent to others. You can be self confident badass and still care about care about others.

>>94953566
the simulation can come of conclusion of a higher being, a creator. believing in the specific Christian god doesn't have anything with theories or intelligence, its just personal opinion.

I'm not the guy you are replying

my issue is, why does matter if God exists?
why people think they have to worship him?
do you worship your mom or dad? do your worship your mayor? do you worship your president? God is just the same but in a higher level. In the end God is just another existence.

>>94953595
wow anon you might need to get off that 'tism spectrum as well, because that's been old news for the longest time

>>94952432
This post made me feel euphoric

Most of you don't actually care about what others have to say and have your mind made up to begin with meaning there is actually no real discussion occurring so I will only say one thing.

Think about the order of life forms and their vast differences between each other. From single cell organism to virus to ant to dog to human.

Look at the vast differences in their capability. Look how the single cell organism isn't conscious of the world. The ant is but it understands little. Let's look at the dog and see how it understands and computes much more of the world around it in terms of information. Now at last look at us. We understand and are aware of much more than the rest.

But remember...the single cell organism wasn't even aware of the world. The ant was superior...the dog superior to the ant and so far. But each live in their own level of understanding of the world

Think that perhaps you're the ant. There's higher life forms than you that you're simply...too simple and limited to perceive or understand. You simply don't have the capacity to just like the single cell organism.

God is not magic, it's a higher life form.

>>94953595
>toxic rick physically handling regular rick and easily dominating him
come on now, I can't be the only one who thinks that's pretty hot

>>94953629
That's the type of guys she normally dates, but when Morty become it, she feels not like doing it

>>94953643
Makes sense, but why worship him then? Why would he care about us? Do you care about ants? I don't.

>>94953643
that's pretty much it

what if some alien come and they are utterly Superior to us, and say that they are the true sons of God.

Religion would went in total destructive denial, it have a shifts in paradigm to be me acceptive.

>>94953649
Not even Brad is as shallow and self-serving as healthy!Morty. He's kinda rude and image conscious and doesn't really care about her, but he's not completely detached from every other human being.

>>94953647
>new fetish is created
>now want toxic Me to dominate and rape pleasant Me
It gives more meaning to mental masturbation, excuse the alliteration.

>>94952666
Your expectations were retarded as are your points. The show capitalizes on the "nothing matters everything is shit" message, and the episode runs on the idea that even being healthy is just another type of being dysfunctional.

The fact it runs with the trope of "Your evil embodied" is the exact point moron. Remember how the show keeps using sci-fi clichés as the premises for each episode? Remember "Anatomy Park" and "The Purge Episode"? Why for God's sake would you ever consider it being "done" would matter jack shit?

>>94953643
Single celled organisms and ants aren't cable of rationally analyzing the world, but we are.
Don't compare us to them, you misanthrope.

>>94953677
That implies she is enough perceptive to see this, i feel the show made her less shallow just for this episode and it bothers me

>>94953677
>new fetish
excuse you, that's called selfcest, and it's definitely not new at all, nor uncommon
god I wish I could fuck a goopy toxic version of myself, I would probably be able to dominate him too since the worst parts about me are my crippling lazyness, apathy, anxiety and depression so my toxic self would be pretty beta, kind of like toxic Morty. Just pin the fucker down and violate him.

>>94953683
You missed the point of the mental exercise.

What you call "rational analysis" is potentially the same as a dog's thoughts on bacon in the same way a ant's "thoughts" are nothing compared to a cat's. We could collectively be nothing to whatever is beyond us in the same way we cells/ants/dogs as nothing. Failing to perceive or understand them in any way since we are the ant in this situation.

>>94953669
>what if some alien come and they are utterly Superior to us, and say that they are the true sons of God.

We would Charge them in blasphemy and purge them out of existence

More seriously though, no
it was numerously said that its our title
>Psalm 82:6: I have said ye are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High.

Also, desu, after Angels that are basically beings of parallel dimension, xeno is literally a drop of water

P.S If we trust Hawkings, Xenos most likely will be space cockroaches

>>94952337
religious people are so annoying cant even take a little joke and have to shitpost 24/7 about it

its like you completly ignore the episode itself and just look at the jokes you personaly dislike

Because you are "missing the point". You think you're objectively right, when you're just misinformed and appear to your peers as ranting lunatic. Like a kid saying that "spicy food is bad because it burns in your mouth" and then not understanding why people are calling him out as "missing the point".

Also
>G-God you're all such TUMBLR-FAGS. I could totes argue but I'm not going to for reasons. Y-Yeah!

Fucking kek.

>>94953400
Toxic world looks already green and would make a great banner.

>>94953740
They get more triggered than SJWs it's insane

MEGA WHERE

>>94953723
There is no such thing as "mental exercise" that can apply to humans.
And how body operates and precieves cannot be compared with how spirit operates, that is a basics of concepts of creativity, self awareness and so on.
hen Moses asked God, what was his name, He answerd "I Am that I Am". So Self awareness is the most important part that cannot be resembled by other organisms.

>>94953700
I don't think the show has ever really shown her to be shallow. She just barely had any characterization at all. Her other two most in-depth episodes were Rick Potion #9 (Where she was under the effects of Date Rape Mantis Serum) and Ricksy Business (Where she seemed interested in Rick's lab until she ran screaming after she caught Squanchy squanching his squanch off.)

She has received less focus then Principle Vagina up until this point.

>>94953743
Spiciness objectively adds nothing to the taste of the food. It's for bland food that has literally nothing going for it and for people that ruined their tastebuds (which happens when you eat too much spicy food) so spiciness is the only thing they can feel that comes close to being a taste.
Don't eat spicy foods. It ruins your palette and makes food taste bad for the rest of your life.

>>94953719
I meant new for me. Right now i'm still on the flavors of SS and yandere.

>>94953727
>Xenos most likely will be space cockroaches
'nids?

>>94953782
self awareness is present in dolphins, elephants, and some apes. lots of experiments have been done on it.

You think they draw Rick's dick and then censor it, or do they draw it already censored?

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>>94953009
>flat earthers can disprove all evidence for round ear-

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>>94953791
>WASP believe this

Spices activate your tastebuds man, just like salt. You are denying yourself an entire spectrum of flavors based on an irrational fear.

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Wtf is going on in this thread with the angry church club and /pol/ shit?

I came for cartoons and comics, not what ever this is.

>>94953834
Welcome to every season 3 R&M discussion.

>>94952432
>Pray to your God to make the coin land on heads everytime

I'm pretty sure God would have more important shit to answer to, and even if he didn't it's in his nature to provide conflict to our lives, so he would never make it land on heads every time. Euphoric post, upvoted.

wouldn't it be funny if they drew a face on it too, like an in joke no one else would know haha

>>94953825
If you fuck with the scales and shapes you can make the mathematical/practical result be the same. Eclipses are possible in a flat earth model. You just have to understand that on flat earth, the sun and moon are very close and very small.

Basically flat earth is the example that you can't prove a negative.

>>94953795
Cool cool, sadly I don't think many people tag their selfcest accordingly, I always have the hardest time trying to find any fanart for it, and in general it's really rare ships too.
Selfcest was always good with rick and morty though, because of the infinite dimensions or whatever, infinite versions of them means infinite flavors of selfcest

>>94952432
>god almost certainly doesn't exist and nobody with access to all the information on the web has any excuse for believing in one
Literal geniuses disagree with you

>>94953825
oh they've got lots of reasons why the solar eclipse proves the flat earth model

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CCLbyRLQyo

>>94953852
>I'm pretty sure God would have more important shit to answer to,

Wouldn't everything be equally unimportant to a being with literally infinite power and understanding? If not, why?

Dont get why morty still loves jessica
>He imgregnated a robot
>Snogged a blondie
>probably fucked two older women who are hotter theb jessica

Also they both have nothing in common

>>94953784
that brothers me too, but everyone else was eating on Healthy Morty's hand, and somehow she is not.

also she would have already noticed Morty crush if she was that perceptive

>>94952835
I have nothing to say about this image.

>>94952509
if you didnt get the not subtle love for jessica youre an idiot

>>94953727
You think they would come without their own set of scriptures haha

>>94953475
>sweetie mchoney mccutiekins
is this... is this the fabled return of Fakeposting???

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This thread is stupid

All "god doesn't exist lmao!!" jokes aside, I'm just happy to have an actual Rick and Morty sci-fi adventure again for the first time this season. No shitty movie references, no divorce subplot, just Rick and Morty.

>>94953727
Depends on the mass extinctions that happen on the world.

In general, the hardiest generalist will survive, and it's kind will inherrit the earth.

Bugs arose first, filling niches. The problem for them was theirs was a time of unprecedentedly high O2 content. So, when microbes found a way to make lunch of cellulouse, that Carbon stopped being bound up in dead plants. (The carboniferous is where our fossil fuels come from, not dinosaurs.)

The the lizards inherrited the earth, some of them learning the trick of maintaining a body temperature, from them came mammals and birds. And in their wake mammal inherrited the Earth.

Now, we continue. Who'll take over after us?

Certainly we've been on the edges of mass extinction, had the carbon content of our atmosphere dropped as much as it has risen since we started tracking it, plants would have started dying off, unable to extract enough carbon from the air to photosynthesize anymore.
(One of the benefits of a higher CO2 level in the atmosphere is that plants require much less water to exist.)

But, in raising the CO2 level, we've perhaps finally ended the interglacial period the Earth has been in for the majority of our existance. What that will mean for life as it exists is unknown.

>>94953723
No, I fully understand what you're saying; our limited perception isn't capable of perceiving more advanced forms of life.

But here's the thing, we aren't ants. We are quite literally the greatest species on earth, and perhaps even the greatest in our galaxy.
You justify your premise with the limitations that govern lesser lifeforms — limitations that do not apply to us.
What is it that you think separates humanity from ants? Is it our size? The number of our limbs?
What separates humanity from cats? A tail? Fur?
Why are we the dominants species of this planet?

Our cognitive abilities are not the same as the rest of earths inhabitants. You cannot apply the limits of lesser lifeforms onto humanity when it's the very absence of those limits that set us apart.

I'm not saying god doesn't exist, and I'm not saying that we could perceive god if he did. I'm not making any assertions.
Perhaps there are cosmic entities beyond our ability to recognize. Who knows.

What I do know is that you can't justify faith in those hypothetical entities based on the assumption that we're the same as ants, or dogs, or fish.
We are men. We have the ability to rationally examine the world. We can build tools to examine the world in our ways our eyes never could.
Our understanding of reality isn't limited to what we see, or hear, or personally experience; it's based on logic.
Logic isn't restrained by intuition. We can build machines that analyze things in more detail and in greater scope than any human mind could ever comprehend. We are not limited by our humanity.

If you want to assert that god exists then you have to do better than comparing us to fucking dogs.

>>94953647
i had a semi-chub when toxic rick kicked healthy ricks groins repeatedly

>>94953880
She was the only one who had any one-on-one with Morty. Sociopaths do great in groups, but they suck at connecting with people. His girlfriend loved that he was completely fake and empty.

>>94953875
>entire video hinges on tricking the viewer into thinking that the moon is really close to the earth

christ alive

WE MADE HIM UP FOR MONEY!

>>94953213
Sbarro is a legit italian food chain, and a trashy one at that

>>94953879
I don't get why he's so fixated either. Maybe it's just some crazy, intense crush and he'll forget about her a while after they start dating or bang. I'm kind of tired of the "Young boy falling for older bitch" thing. Though the ending made me think that she was improving in personality, so maybe I'll start liking her later on.

>>94953913
Yeah that whole fight was super hot, plus the fact that healthy rick started bleeding at one point, plus the fact that they ended up naked. God bless unintentional fanservice

>>94953643
Well Duh, I'm pretty sure most people who've given this shit some thought have come to the conclusion that there could be some kind of lovecraftian beings out there that work on scales beyond our perception, to which we are but ants, but that doesn't mean that they're in any way related to everybody's favorite goat-herder desert trilogy or that they deserve our worship or that they would give a fuck about it anyway.

>>94953953
It is? 'cause I'm italian and I've never heard of that shit. Or maybe you mean they do "italian food"?