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This new episode hit me in a really deep and emotional level
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>>94948812
Anybody who hated this episode is just wrong
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Wrong subreddit friendo
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>>94948812

The toxifying of the world reminded me of the Crossed series.
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>>94948812
Shut up faggot. Go dump your emotions in your blog.
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I can't find a non-shady link :(
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link plz
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I cracked the code
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>>94948840
I need to take off my chest the fact that they didn't throw all the emotional build up out the window. Also the episode completely focused on Rick and Morty gave it a sense of depth. Jessica's inclusion as an active role. There are so many little details I loved about this episode that I can forgive the cringe the date scene gave me.
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>>94948812
Best episode this season.

Also the only good episode this season.
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>>94948812
I'm positive this show sucks.
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>>94948877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBDzYXbcSmM

Here you go
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>>94948877
here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1l9QsxH4I
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>>94948812
I like how Rick's toxicity is what makes him behave immorally by distracting himself from doing the right thing while Morty's toxicity is the opposite and actually keeps him from being a psychopath. Rick's a good person at heart who's misled by his demons while Morty doesn't really have a conscience and only behaves morally because he's so afraid of consequences.
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Healthy Morty was pulling some serious tail.

I wonder if that woman with the huge tits is still locked up in that toxic bottle. covered in all that slime
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>>94948840
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How much would society shift if someone invented a toxin removal machine?
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>>94948937
She gets released in the post credits scene
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>>94948918
Is that Toad screaming from Mario Kart 64 at 8:10?
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>>94948937

Should have tuned in to the after-credit scene, her and her nice tits got out.
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>>94948812
It did great work at showing that all the negative aspects people complain about with Rick aren't real. He's not a atheist. He's not really vindictive and mean. He's doesn't really think of himself as a god. Its all just a bad side of himself that he himself doesn't really believe.
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>>94948953
Perfect.
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>>94948914
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>>94948996
But it is also the "bad" side that loves his Morty
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>>94948953
it would fall apart pretty quick
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>>94949008
(You) too.
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>>94949010
True, which does in fact confirm, without a shadow of a doubt, that Rick doesn't really care about Morty. Which makes sense, during the citadel episode, even though he scoffed at the replacement morty ticket, he still took it.
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Where the fuck did Morty find all these pedophiles?
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>>94948812
That episode was okay
The only thing that made me laugh was that shitty Voltron joke towards the end
Where's Phoenix Person tho
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>>94949010
That was kind of the point of the episode, that neuroticism may be toxic but it's also the thing that keeps you from being soulless and shallow.
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>muh safe space
That said, yeah it was a pleasant episode. Nice to see Rick admit he loves his grandson. That said, too often the show turns on a dime and fucks up any development, and it's still terrible from an animation and cinematic perspective. I still feel like shit we got cucked out of any progress at the end of season 2, just to go back to status quo. I'm afraid the writers don't know how to take a story like this seriously and, you know, actually give us tangible character development.

That said, writing was nice. And the novelty of these ideas is pretty unusual for Murikan TV, even if it is just futuristic Jekyll and Hyde.
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>>94949052
wat
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>>94949050
>True, which does in fact confirm, without a shadow of a doubt, that Rick doesn't really care about Morty.
That's not true. Just because his caring about Morty is irrational and toxic doesn't mean it isn't real.
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>>94949050
More in all is that Rick aknowledges that it's bad to get attached to Morty because he lives with the risk of losing him and suffering his lost. He himself mentioned that he considers it a bad thing.
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>>94948996
>>94949010
You people are autistic, the machine removed the parts that the characters deem toxic about themselves because toxicity is relative and is determined by each individual differently.
Rick thinks his god complex, attachment to morty etc are bad parts of him, morty believes his self-doubt and anxiety are bad parts of him, when in reality they need to have those too, but keep them under control and learn to work with them because there is no shortcut to being healthy.
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toxic self = shadow self without the "y-you're not me!!" bullshit
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>>94949052
morty is 14. there are lots of examples of women getting into relationships with teenage boys. because it gives them emotional power over the man in their lives. though in morty's case, he became a sociopathic chad.
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>>94948935

No, the "toxic" parts of themselves are really what they hate about themselves. Morty hated his low self-esteem, his cowardice, and his conscience. After Fart and the Purge world, he's come to believe that he needs to be more amoral like Rick, but he can't be.

Rick, on the other hand, wants to be purely rational, free of attachments, and conscientious, but his impulsiveness, arrogance, and anger all keep him from doing that.
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>>94948812
>R&M hugbox thread with no contrarian meanies allowed to say bad things
ftfy
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Two good episodes in a row?
Holy shit, that's a new record for this season
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>>94949108
and the kids hated that they were murderous on the inside?

Get real

s h i t w r i t i n g
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>>94949050
episode does confirm that the 2 Ricks in Rick's fake memory were just different sides of his personality. that is alcoholism is just him trying to suppress one of his 2 aspects.
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>>94949091
>the machine removed the parts that the characters deem toxic about themselves
There was no indication in the actual episode that their own personal opinions about what makes themselves toxic determined what the machine removed. Rick and Morty each had different qualities removed because their toxic qualities were different to begin with. Morty has self-defeating neurotic toxicity and Rick has impulsive angry toxicity. Their opinions about themselves are irrelevant.
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>I can't fucking do this anymore
Rick, I'm feeling this watching the show.

Well, except the 25 minutes that followed. Literally my favourite episode of all three seasons.
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>>94949052
>Some what shit and confident kid with a successful career

Literally bring the /ss/ out of women.
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>>94949122
Not necesarily hate, but just identify as bad or toxic. That way when their parents tell them that "hitting your friends when angry is bad" becomes just that.
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>>94948812
It wasn't bad but it was really really boring outside of one or two moments.
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>>94949122

Have you ever been around children? Fucking demonspawn. I would guess they hate that they do "bad" things.
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mega when??
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>>94948812
This episode really triggers my pissing fetish.
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>>94949122
LOL You never wanted to kill something when you were a kid?
Or were you never invited to birthday parties?
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>>94949122
no, the kids hated being at a stupid kids' party.
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>>94949152

That girl who talked about it was the same girl who dated Ethan last episode. I remember because her white kneesocks and plaid skirt are my fetish.
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>>94949091
Morty didn't need them

He was a successful and happy man without any of those feelings, he was totally right in not wanting it back
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>>94948812
Dat Stacy was a real Stacy.
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Good episode but the
>Gods not real!!!
Aspect felt kind of turned up to 11 in parts
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>>94949141
>>94949143
>>94949163
>>94949167

>This culminates in everyone one of them becoming murderous

bravo reddit defense force.
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the show needs more of these slice of science fiction adventures and less sjw female power fantasies desu
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>>94949105
>though in morty's case, he became a sociopathic chad
How? He didn't become anything like that
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>>94949178
>le ledit dismissal meme
nice non argument
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Why were they drinking wine in the diner

they're underage
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>>94949169
He was kind of an egotistic sociopath, the "cocky" morty Rick warned us about
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>both Rick and Jessica are tsun about Morty
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>>94949177
toxic rick lies about almost everything. especially to morty.
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>>94949199
except my argument is two lines above calling you reddit
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>>94949122
children are tiny monsters, barely held in check by their love for their parents.
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>>94948812
desu I hoped morty would stay american psycho level
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>>94949196
Morty literally became a amoral stock scam broker from The Boiler Room.
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>>94949178
I thought it was just a Lord of the Flies meme
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>>94949071
I'm still upset that all the shit at the end of Season 2 got instantly reverted too, but this is the first episode in a while where I've felt like they made actual progress that might stick because of how it developed Rick and Morty as characters. We also finally got Rick admitting that he legitimately cares about Morty without backpedaling or turning it into a joke, which I appreciate. Granted, we also know that Rick considers his attachment to Morty to be a bad/toxic thing, but it was also basically the whole point of the episode that your bad/toxic side isn't necessarily a negative thing.
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>>94949130
rick explicitly said the machine removed what the person thinks is toxic about themselves
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>>94949163
>You never wanted to kill something when you were a kid?
Only flies that got inside because I didn't want them landing on my food.
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>>94949178
kids hate being told to behave themselves and being told what to do.
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So does Jessica care about Morty?
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>>94949196
Rick literally called him "little American Psycho" just in case it was too subtle for you, and it still went over your head?
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>>94949234
He thinks loving his grandchildren is toxic because of all the pain he's had with relationships in the past, and all the heart ache it's ever brought him.

Jesus, you people are retards.
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>>94949238
Not that anon but I made actual plans to kill my teacher when I was like 5, I drew them out and everything. Not sure what that says about me though.
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>>94949205
Yes he had a huge ego boost but there wasnt anything sociopathic about him, he was just and overoptimistic smooth talker, he actually helped people a lot and became happy on his own successful way
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>>94949196
that shit with him leaving the phone on just to emotionally mess with Jessica was pretty psychotic.
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>>94949255
maybe
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>>94948812
Fuck rick
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>>94949229
>stock brokers are evil
Move to Venezuela if you hate capitalism that much
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>>94949234
Which part specifically did he say that during? I was watching a stream so it might've cut out on me when he said that.
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Did Morty have any sex with the hot girl that kept the apartment?
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>>94949267
He left the phone on so Rick would trace him.
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>>94949267
Jesus that's why he did it? That's pretty fucked.
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>>94949178
not true the church people were doing sex things
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>>94949284
I think right after Morty slapped him? That's when the stream gave me problems as well
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>>94949313
i was talking about the kids
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>>94949294
>>94949303
At least that's how I interpreted it. He left it on specifically once his new hot girlfriend walked it and started to talk to him.
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>>94949257
>But Rick said so
Am I suppose to hate religion and burp like an animal because Rick does it too?

Patrick Bateman murdered people and beat hookers up, aside "healthy" Morty having an expensive aparment, the American Psycho analogy was pure BS that didn't compare the two at all
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Besides all the God isn't real shit this was my favorite episode
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>>94949267
He did it because on the inside he wanted to get "fixed", kinda like Rick did earlier listening to the signals his toxic side was sending him
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Just rewatched it. I wish every other episode was as good as this.
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>>94949284
right after morty slapped him and he realized he didnt give a shit about morty
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>>94949280
real stock brokers are not evil, well maybe a little.

What Morty was doing was defrauding clients in a chop shop investment firm. cold calling people and hyping up companies that basically exist only on paper. To drive up artificial demand boost the stock price. This is done to raise capital for the company or to sell the brokerage's own shares at the inflated price before they cause the price to crash.
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Who wrote this episode? I need someone to praise.
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>>94949323
>Patrick Bateman murdered people and beat hookers up
no he didn't do any of that
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0:35

did rick say "the abadango cluster"?
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>>94949363
Oh that's why he slapped morty back, to check if he (rick) cared, right? is that it?
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>>94948928
>>94948918
>360p
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I was going to respond to a post but then I realized it was a tripfag.
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>>94948840
Morty was happy, rick took it away. He's a douche.
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>>94949379
But he wanted to do that, he was also completely capable of doing it
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When I saw Rick only take a sample of toxic Morty I had hoped that only a bit of those traits came back so that we ended up with a better but balanced Morty
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>>94949406
He did what was necessary
>>94949424
That would've been worse, he would've become evil morty
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>>94949379
Let me guess, you watched the movie and even so, you totally misinterpreted the ending

Go read the book
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>>94949350
Yeah, I can see that. To me it just seems like everything he says in that conversation is specifically to mess with Jessica. I mean, he starts out with "you have nothing to be jealous of".
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>>94949387
yeah
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I wasn't really feeling the episode but the last two minutes were pretty funny
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>>94949375

Roiland and Harmon, the original creators.
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Best part of the episode.
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>>94949435
How do you get evil Morty?
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>>94949367
so he really was evil?
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>>94948853
Oh yeah. I was also thinking of the part in Kingsman in the church. Anyways good episode. Finding out that Tricia likes getting peed on makes her #1 waifu in my book.
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Porn of Stacy when?
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I'm really tired of all the episode plots revolving around Social Justice topics for some reason. It's not necessarily that they're taking THE SJW stance, but they are topics forced into the limelight over and over by SJWs nonetheless. It's quite obviously not a coincidence. I think the word/concept 'toxic' has appeared in almost every episode of Season 3 now.
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>>94949517
What in this episode had to do with SJWs?
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>Morty got with two hot older women and Jessica was revealed to have uncertain feelings about Morty in this ep. Will he still be rich from his brokering in future episodes I wonder?
Neat, Also, the second I saw those Drones I knew they were gonna make a Voltronverse reference.
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So, why did both healthy and toxic Rick cared about Summer and Beth? Does it mean the care for both of them is neither toxic nor healthy?
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Thinking about what my toxic self would be like made me really fucking sad really fast.
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>>94949484
He was amoral. Evil is relative. He was doing the wrong thing objectively though.
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>>94949527
He doesn't view his care for Beth and Summer as toxic so that part remained inside nontoxic Rick
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>>94949520
SJW's use the word 'toxic' to describe people they don't like and I guess that anon is too stupid to understand words can have different meanings based on the context?
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>>94949546
Remember that C137 abandoned his real Beth and Summer to rot in Cronenbergworld

The only real feelings this Rick has are for his Morty
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Did anyone notice that Rick's skin became lighter after the detox?
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>>94949177
Clearly a joke. Justin probably read these threads and referenced them with toxic Rick.
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>>94949546
Why do you think would he find his care for Morty toxic though and not them?
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Give me that fucking mega, I need something to wash this awful taste out of my mouth
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>>94949527
His care for Beth and Summer lacked any sociopathic tendencies. When they saw the aftermath of the fight, Rick offered to make them food and apologized profusely. Nontoxic Rick actually put forth effort to care for and protect people, instead of doing his own shit and expecting the two to worship him blindly.
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>>94949517
The concept of 'toxic' is too broad to necissarily be tied to SJWs in any way. This episode had nothing to do with social justice topics, its about how people are aware of things about themselves they think are unhealthy and would like to change about themselves, but for one reason or another often can't.

Just relax Anon, you're alright.
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>>94949575
His skin also became grayer after reabsorbing the toxic Rick.
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>>94949584
It was probably more detox Rick just being nice. He was an all around more caring person but he deemed his disproportionate care for Morty to be toxic.
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>>94949442
The book has an ambiguous ending.
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>>94949584
Probably because of what happened with his original Morty, which left some unfinished business that he regrets, and he is living that regret through his care for this new Morty, though he recognizes this obsession as unhealthy
to say it bluntly, Rick is Morty's bitch, he would do anything to not fuck this Morty up the same way it happened with the original, which I'm guessing is Evil Morty
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I still love that toxic Rick said "grandpa's here" to his Morty
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>>94949599
It's not a broad topic. That's your historical revisionism at work. Nobody used 'toxic' to describe people until SJWs started using it towards opinions they did not like to attempt to form a false consensus front against it. Before 2012 'toxic' was not a concept as it is known now. It is a word to describe poisonous materials such as nuclear waste, not people.
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>>94949642
retard
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>>94949572
Those are not his original Beth and Summer.

Evil Rick scanned C137 memories. Showing him holding baby Morty. Though Rick didn't come back to cronenberg family until Morty was in high school. After abandoning Beth as a child.
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>>94949642
Have you seriously never heard the term "toxic relationship" before?
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This is the first episode all season that I don't have any issue with. I think the lack of a B-plot really helped it.
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>>94949375
Tom Kauffman
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>>94949637
do you think making Evil Morty not Rick's original, but a different Morty who knows what happened and wants to avenge Morty Prime, would be making things too convoluted? I am not Justin Roiland.
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>>94949642
Well, I can't say for sure if you're correct on that front, but either way, just because a word has entered the public conciousness through SJWs doesn't mean it can only be used in that context. I have that same kind of reaction to the word "problematic", but I know that its not always being used to push an agenda.

I still think you're trying a little hard to force this to be a social justice thing when I really don't think it is.
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>>94949642
Bitch, Britney Spears' "Toxic" came out in 2003. That song detailed a girl's boyfriend being toxic and an all-around terrible person. I know pop culture, and toxic as a generalized term is not "muh SJW" shit.
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>>94949685
a term sjws invented for straight white relationships
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>>94949656
>as a child.
I got the impression he abandoned her right around when she got knocked up
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>>94949527
Rick doesn't really care about Beth or Summer. He even said as much about Beth in the Pickle Rick episode when he was talking to Jaguar, stating that his access to infinite universes (and therefore infinite daughters) precludes the need for him to care about them.

The only person Rick loves in any way is his specific Morty, since this is his only feeling of attachment to anyone and he prefers not being attached he views it as unhealthy and compromising.
Why exactly Rick C137 is so attached to this specific Morty is a question we haven't yet had answered, however I believe that it's because this Morty is actually C137's original Morty, making him the only family member Rick has that is actually from his original universe.
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>>94949588
Couldn't find Mega
I usually just download them off Youtube because they don't block the fresh uploads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1l9QsxH4I
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Anybody else caught that when he was selling the stock he described it as a beautiful red head that was recently single that was 2 lockers down? He was talking about Jessica,
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>>94949698
>I am not Justin Roiland
sure you aren't.
by the way yes, it would, there's no reason for it to be that way if you can just make it simpler by having evil morty be the original
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>>94949642
In addition to what everyone else is saying, you have to also remember that the whole thing spurred from a process at a Spa that promised to cleanse their bodies of toxins. The idea of using remedies or treatments to purge yourself of toxins is older than SJW's.
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>>94949122
Because you’re a fucking idiot who didn’t follow what was happening

The children didn’t have a toxic murdering side, they were infected with however many people’s toxic nature put into them.
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>>94949725
no, I didnt, thanks for the insight
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>>94949738
wow. children really are our future. ban the guns and pass the welfare around
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>>94949607
>But he deemed his disproportionate care for Morty to be toxic
He treats morty the worst out of the entire family, except jerry.
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>>94949718
I'm pretty sure he loves this Summer. Remember the first episode of the season, when Rick was bluffing to kill Summer? Even the other Rick said it "You're irrational (...) you love your grandchildren".
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>>94949744
but that's wrong anon otherwise fucking everyone would be killing eachother

still shit writing
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What was Rick's revelation at the house when he slapped morty? Did he understand that he didnt care about morty because the toxic version of him did to use that a leverage?
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The detoxifier is really making me think
would it work on the historically evils of the past like Hitler and Stalin? They certainly have themselves completely convinced there's nothing toxic about themselves.
I'm trying to drag science into science fantasy but at base level it seems the detoxifier would only really work well on the self-aware.
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>>94949588
They killed little Finger?! Fuck, I haven't watch the least episode! Spoilers next time!
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>>94949715
Shoneys. Out the window is loli Beth and rocks wife, standing in front of a portal.
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>>94949777
Spoilers have been out for a year, dude. Also the dragon melts the wall at the end.
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>>94949756
Because he doesn't want to get attached because he deems that to be bad, seems pretty obvious
he hopes that by doing that he will both avoid having morty turn cocky and also avoid his love for morty from growing and impeeding him
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>>94949772
>work well on the self-aware
this is correct, it's completely subjective. If the person believes what they are doing and who they are is fine and perfect, the machine wouldnt do anything
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>>94949535
Evil is not relative, except on few conceptions of morality. Good and bad are not objective properties of the universe though.

And btw, relativism opposes universalism, not objectivism.
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>>94949761
>The capacity to kill means you’re always killing
>everyone got the same exact toxicity instead of a random slew of different toxicity from a random assortment of aliens
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>>94949722
Nifty, thanks
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>>94949786
And Jon Snow is Aegon Targareon. Dany's brother and rightful heir to the iron throne.
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>>94949755
I'm pretty sure even (You) don't know what you're trying to say at this point, kiddo
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>>94949152
Before, it was just a Summer joke. Now we know that one of the writers has a water sports fetish
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>>94949772
Hitler had many insecurities that stemmed from his family and social life. Plus discrimination usually comes form a place of bad intentions.

However, Lord Secretary Stalin, the Iron Man, had no fears or insecurities. He was the perfect man, who all looked up to.
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>>94949777
>wow, you spoiled something for me because I clicked a webm? I will state it to spoil others!

>>94949808
We knew that from last season.
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>>94949811
Possibly Justin
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>>94949642
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>>94949514
Porn of Stacy getting tentacled by those aliens in the slime container when?
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>>94949702
no offense there pal but nobody really used toxic (not the word toxins) AFAIK in 2003 except to refer to waste and that song in particular or the pokemon status condition or the pokemon move. I've only heard of toxic being associated with human social problems and whatnot since these current SJW days
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>all these redheads
muh dick
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>>94949814
Wasn't Stalin insecure about his thick Georgian accent?
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>>94949642
There is also someone who thinks everything is pushing an agenda
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>>94949846
get your eyes checked
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>>94949811
Wasn't Morty at the family psychologist in Pickle Rick because he pissed himself in class as well?
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>>94949846
That’s a brunette you dumb fuck
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>>94949846
There were some top tier waifus in this episode
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>>94949844
>Mentions pokemon 3 times in one post
Is it possible you never heard the word toxic in 2003 because you were a fucking child then?
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>>94949846
That head isn't red.
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>>94949086
That's what the whole episode was trying to say
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>>94949760
In episode two he originally wanted to leave her to die with the gangs after grabbing the little shard of crystal.

He only stayed because Morty didn't want to leave her behind.
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>>94949866
Oh right, that too
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>>94949866
Yup, but we didn't get many nice omorashi pics out of that, fetish artists need to step up their game
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>>94949195
My dude, you are carrying around some really unhealthy stuff in you, you know? You gotta get rid of those toxins.
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>>94949698
Take back control of your show, you made House of Cosby's you magnificent bastard. Please be my friend and come to the Panera Bread in Myrtle beach, Not North Myrtle or Carolina Forest. I guess it is more Surfside.
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>>94949880
>>94949873
>>94949863
it's dark red you retards
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>>94949642
The term "toxic masculinity" was coined back in 1993. Feminists just picked it up a few years ago and started throwing it around for everything a man did, rather than it's original meaning.
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So Jessica is only into Rick

And only pities Morty

It's Jerry all over again
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>>94949910
brown is a composite of every color and it's dark
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>>94949844
You're a fucking retard, aren't you?
>Popular song in 2003 uses the definition
Even though the generalized definition was done long before '03, it proves my point that it ain't the SJW boogeyman. Get off your computer, take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.
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>>94949698
Justin sign my tits please
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>>94949722
360p is the best we've got I guess. It's already been up on kimcartoon I was hoping for at least 720 though.
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Nothing in this episode grabbed me besides the /ss/. Maybe a few more watches and I'll see why everyone's gushing. Happened with Purge, anyway
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>>94949927
Except Morty can be successful.
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>>94949910
Nigger that's not dark read it's brown.
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that ending song though
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>>94949910
Are you colourblind? It's brown.
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>>94949942
>Happened with Purge
Oh my god, an anon who doesn't hate Purge, like me? Whoa
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>>94949926
>it's
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it's blue and black you fuckers
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>>94949930
>>94949947
>>94949957
http://www.htmlcsscolor.com/hex/582E2F
Not the anon saying she was a redhead, but the results from the lab are in and it looks like this does qualify as a shade of red. Just over 48% red.
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>>94949972
NOW NOW, let's not start that
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Toxic Rick: narcissistic, complacent, dependent
Toxic Morty: anxious, depressive, defeatist
Detox Rick: optimistic, polite, self-sufficient
Detox Morty: confident, amoral, sociopathic
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>>94948812
Good things:
>Confirmation that Rick cares about Morty even if he considers it irrational and toxic
>Confirmation that all it would take is a little confidence to turn Morty into a total psycho
>Screentime and development for Jessica, maybe she'll become a more prominent member of the cast in s4?
>No Jerry

Bad things:
>That fucking flaps song
>No Jerry
>Not really a bid deal but I would've loved to see a cut over to toxic Beth and Summer
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>>94949942
I think everyone's just happy to get away from the rest of the family for an episode. They're not really the most compelling of characters.
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>>94949984
>>94949972
It's white and gold.
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>>94949981
>Jazz
Ya like Jazz?
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>>94949985
>dependent
what do you mean?
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>>94949995
>Screentime and development for Jessica
I disagree in that this MortyxJessica chemistry, or lackthereof, was strange and retreading water that other episodes had already gone through. It was already shown in a prior episode that Morty was comfortable handing out with Jessica and talking to her without acting like a spaz yet all of a sudden he reverts back to first half of S1 Morty when talking to her here.
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>>94950021
He is irrationally dependent on Morty.
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>>94949985
>Detox Morty
>Sociopathic
No, he wasn't.
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>>94949942
I'm happy that it didn't focus on Summer and Beth for a change. Jesus they have unnecessarily focused on those empty characters this season. I just want the dynamic back.
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>>94950033
are you high? Look at the phone shit with jessica.

He left it on to manipulate her.
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WHY DOES RICK FUCK OVER MORTY EVERY EPISODE, FUCK
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>>94949995
>good things: no jerry
>bad things: no jerry
I don't get it
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>>94948840
It wasn't as bad as the others in the season at least, but damm the new writters are obsessed with playing the psychoanalyst.
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>>94949168
She is a pretty top tier girl.
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>>94950022
its dan harmon setting her up as a self insert for his current gf
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>>94950047
He's not high, he's autistic. He can't pick up on social cues so it went over his head.
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>>94948812
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I found this episode to be genuinely interesting, but not funny. Ideally it's be both, but with how thing have been going recently, beggars can't be choosers.
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>>94950070
This writer for this episode was on the show since S1, though.
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>>94949995
>Grandpa's here
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What would your toxic version be, /co/?
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I forget, did Morty lose his virginity before now? If not, Jacqueline was certainly a good way to do it.
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>>94949482
Objectively wrong.
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>>94950098
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>>94950116
You know what, I bet they didn't even have sex. Non-toxic Morty is too good for that.
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>>94949482
>plain white
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>>94950116
non toxic morty didnt care about anymore and was a sociopath, probably didnt
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>>94950116
>>94950128
Morty was making out with Stacy right after meeting her. They established a safeword. Things were going to happen.

Morty was off doing his Little American Psycho thing for 3 weeks. Things Happened.
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madarista, i beseech thee!

mega please
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>>94950057
It had to be done man. The non-toxic Rick was a great guy.

Non-toxic Morty I couldn't stand to be around.
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>>94950128
>>94950138
He wouldn't have said no, and given that outfit, you can be damn sure Jacky was going to push for it.

>>94950145
Also this. Morty was clearly down to get freaky.
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>>94950162
>freckles on boobs
I don't know why I like this but I do.
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>>94950128
>highly confident and amoral
>"too good" for something
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>>94950147
Just watch it on Youtube. Really not worth it
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>>94949091
>deem toxic about themselves

Yes. Parts they deem toxic about themselves. Parts that they hate, and wish to reject, but cannot. Parts they don't believe to be true. Self lies. So no, Rick doesn't think he has a god complex, but there is a part of himself (NOT his true self) that does believe he has that, but actually he tends to try to ignore that part of himself when he can.
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>>94950177
freckles in general is god like
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What would your toxic self be /co/?

What parts about you do you hate about you?
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>>94948895
this isn't a new concept
>if only I could seperate from all my terrible parts
has probably been a thought since dawn of man
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>>94950203
the fact that I go on this board
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>>94950200
That's one cute boy (female.)
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>>94950190
i'm doing that now, but i'd like the mega for autistic archival purposes
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>>94950203
jobless and wasting time
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>>94950149
>Non-toxic Morty I couldn't stand to be around.
I liked non-toxic morty way more than regular morty
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So Healthy Rick figured he didn't care for Morty because Normal Rick's conception of an ideal mindset would be one without the vulnerability of loving Morty and so Toxic Riick loved Morty?
That means Rick loves Morty, right? Fuck this show, does Rick love Morty or not?!
I guess this episode establishes that yes, he does. So what do I do with this information against the information presented in previous episodies where we see that he doesn't?
Also, hey! Morty lost his V card! Good for the kid.
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>>94950068
No Jerry is a good thing because honestly we've had like, three divorce-centered episodes and we're almost done with the season and the "everybody hates Jerry" bit is starting to feel like a dead horse

No Jerry is also a bad thing because I actually still find Jerry funny and I'd hate to see him demoted to, like, a b-list side character
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>>94950203
That I'm lazy, scared to take risks in order to succeed and just a general sadness about my life for the forseeable future

>>94950214
oh thats a good way to summarize
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>>94950230
He does shit like break your phones and never shuts up. He would annoy me after a while.
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>>94949178
they were told santa isn't real and thats like God to kids, so of course they are going to do the most extreme thing
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>>94950234
He does love morty but hates the fact that he does it's obvious and has been in other episodes, he once almost died sacrificing himself for morty in season 2.

I dont know why people keep forgetting that
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>>94950116
Does the sexbot count? He did impregnate it
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>>94950244
breaking phones was annoying, but it was pretty ballsy, which I liked.
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>>94949808
That's fucking stupid
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>>94950203
Pretty much an healthy mixture of what Morty and Rick's toxic versions were
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>>94950244
>That moment when Morty almost snatched Jessica's phone

Honestly, was I the only one who thought Healthy Morty was going to try and de-tox the whole planet? Like, after he started pushing Jessica to de-tox and was acting all creepy
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>>94950285
yea I thought it was an alien ploy
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>>94950285
You have to keep in mind that the main effect of 'tism is being unable to read social cues. That's why so many people in the thread think Healthy Morty was a good person and don't understand what was supposed to be wrong with him.
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>>94950215
Actually it really is a boy this time and I'm pretty sure the freckles are makeup.
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>>94950264
>>94950285
What's with this boy and phones? in the whirly dirly conspiracy he broke his own phone and even stomped on it and now this
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>>94950021
He cares about Morty. Detox Rick does not care about his Morty at all that was what the slap meant. Rick (combined Rick that is) loves Morty but considers it a weakness and a liability so it was extracted along with other qualities he dislikes about himself. Rick wishes he could be free and uninhibited by emotional relationships but he is.
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>>94950203
I'd never be lonely. I wouldn't procrastinate. I'd probably be pretty close to nontoxic Morty.
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>>94950301
I think it's not that people dont understand what was wrong with healthy morty, but that they prefer morty being confident and not a little beta bitch
>>94950307
i think its just a good visual gag, but i could be wrong
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>>94950301
Dude. He got a 10/10 girl who was truly interested in him and he was truly invested into making her happy. If that's social autism, then I want it.
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>>94950296
At least the Marriage Counseling place told you exactly what was happening. There's probably a dozen other things that "detoxify" at that spa and none of them split you in two.

Jerry's supposed to be the one caught up in alien mishaps, not Rick
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>>94949698
>I am not Justin Roiland
>I am 'Not Justin Roiland'
:^)
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>>94949122
>can't take a simple "children are evil" joke
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>>94950336
sociopaths manipulate people, his entire attitude he is always in control of the people he talks to, why him making her happy is just another trait.
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>>94950336
The autism is not recognizing sociopathy
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>>94949842
Well she was screaming her safeword and covered in slime after exiting
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Anyone else really wanted to fugg toxic Rick for some reason?
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>>94949762
Yes. It was a test to see if he would feel bad about it, and he didn't.
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>>94950365
Healthy Morty is what autists wish they were.
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>>94950380
How come toxic Rick really cares about Morty but at the same time kept treating him like shit?
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>>94949529
dude my toxic self would be a psycho serial killer 24/7 until he got brought down I guarantee it
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>>94950371
I knew people would think this so I'm expecting fucktons of fanart on tumblr. The fact that he cares for Morty put my doubts to bed that he would be a fan favorite.
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>>94950203
My toxic version would be:

>hedonistic
>envious
>self-centered
>attention-seeking
>anxious
>helpless

So, basically a pile of snot who is too conflicted by its need to be lazy AND seek attention to do anything.
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>>94950371
No, just you, you twisted sick person you.
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>>94950398
>>94950400
Hell yeah, can't wait for the lewds
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>>94950371
I would fug a cute slime monster but not toxic Rick
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>>94950147
He just linked to BATV rips last time, those get those since they're out now too.
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Jerry's picture is now a horse
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>>94949375
who is this mana monster
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>>94950419
You're a master figurer
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>all this character drama
I JUST WANT FUCKING ADVENTURES
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>>94950371
I hope the amazon dl version isn't censored.
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>>94950432
Damn didn't think Beth would go straight into bestiality.
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>>94950419
>Rick drunk dialing Jessica
>puffy vagina

Funny how he nailed that.
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>>94950419
noice
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>>94950450
>puffy vagina
what
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>>94950395
He's just being tsun.

He's attached to Morty, but he doesn't admit it/show it because he's too conceited/narcissistic/entitled.
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>>94950432
Jerry became a horse then? Like in that excellent comic that some people posts some tienes
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>>94950457
one of the earlier seasons. Rick told Morty to forget Jessica because she's got a puffy vagina.
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>>94948953
The toxicity is self-determined so some borderline psychos like morty would be morally released and would be incredibly dangerous.
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good, not great. the animation team sure is going more out which is great to see but the writing gets more heavy-handed as the season progresses. still pretty fun but it's getting worrying.

>"is it wrong I think this is hot?"
>literally did took rick a minute to find him

ha, it's the little things.
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>>94950441
That what the first 3 minutes were for.
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>>94949529
If I were to be rid of my toxic self, would there be anything left of me to exist, or would the thing I call God within my being manifest itself and wreck despair, madness and woe unto those who gaze upon its tentacled maw?
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>>94950397
I'd probably be some kind of rapist
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>>94950441
And you're getting them but with character drama. The pure adventure stage of this show is over. There's nothing more to be done with an adventure. Now it's time to examine the characters as that's where the real meat of the show comes from.
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>>94950472
It wasn't Jessica you dumb dumb, it was that girl who worked in Anatomy Park
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>>94950443
The language might be uncensored, but the nude bits won't be.
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>>94950307
Morty got a brick cellphone. He thinks that smartphones are toxic to society, probably because people waste so much time on them.

This is the first episode I've really enjoyed this season, but holy shit I still haven't laughed once.

>>94950203
>anxious around others
>indecisive as FUCK
>shitposts on 4chan and faps all day
>puts off things to the last minute
>can't stay calm in the heat of the moment

It's some nice introspection thinking about it.
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>>94950203
I hope more people reply to this, its always hilarious having my opinions of /co/mblr proven correct.
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>>94950301
I might have the 'tism because I'm a little lost on what Detox Morty is supposed to convey. He was getting on my nerves talking so much during the date scene, but in universe, why was Jessica so put off? Actually, can someone write me a small analysis on why Detox Morty a shit?
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>>94950047
Shit, I'm autistic. I just thought he wanted to get caught for some vague/cryptic reason.
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>>94950047
Why would he leave the phone on for rick to track him, and get his happiness taken away from him? He thought he turned it off. Morty isn't smart. He has learning disabilities.
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>>94950490
>Now it's time to examine the characters as that's where the real meat of the show comes from.
Children need to fuck off.

If they wanted to take this show highbrow they should have done a deconstruction (and potentially a reconstruction, depending on the creator's viewpoint) of nihilism, ideally with a bigger focus on worldbuilding. That would have been watching. Instead we get F.R.I.E.N.D.S. with laser guns.

This was the worst episode of the season by far. Nothing but two unlikable fuckwanks whinging at each other.

>but they're SUPPOSED to be unlikable!
This only works if they manage to be entertaining despite that. For a while, they did. Rather, their adventures did.
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>>94948953
All extremes of personality would instantly come into being tearing the world apart. Most people would probably be highly efficient sociopaths who know how to achieve their goals pretty quickly. Most would hardly need other people to be happy so social structures would falter as everyone becomes self actualized without much need for other people.
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>>94949529
I used to play bass in My Toxic Self.
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>>94949050
>which does in fact confirm, without a shadow of a doubt, that Rick doesn't really care about Morty.
He cares about Morty even though he thinks that's a weakness. That means he irrationally, subconsciously, unintentionally, and unconditionally cares about Morty.

how is that not 'real'?
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>>94950472
But that's great though.
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>>94950526
>Children need to fuck off.
>Wants more adventures but doesn't like character exploration
>If they wanted to take this show highbrow they should have done a deconstruction (and potentially a reconstruction, depending on the creator's viewpoint) of nihilism
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>>94950538
I've been on here far too long and now I can't figure out a short, non-ironic way to tell you I enjoyed your post, so just be aware I really did like it.
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>>94950500
It wasn't a brick it was a clamshell. Very important distinction. I wish we still had clamshell phones. Even Japan is abandoning them.
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>>94950303
I thought it was a girl who dressed up as a boy or whatever?
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>>94950518
I was wondering about that too since he didn't seem particularly bummed when Rick was about to inject him.
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>>94949529
>toxic self is a suicidal lazy piece of shit that just tries to off itself as quick as possible
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>>94950199
You read way to far into that. Most of what you said is just inference and not actually shown or spoken on the episode. Rick has a god complex. It's a huge part of his character. Remember back when morty and rick were stuck in the paradox world and he was being phased out and he started turning to god for forgiveness and then he took it all back when he saved himself? It's mentioned multiple times throughout the show. There were no fake traits taken out of them for you to make such an assumption and even if that one thing was true as a lie you would only have that single thing to base your assumption on. A self fulfilling prophecy.
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>>94948812
All this episode did was fuel c137cest fujoshits with confirmation rick cares for morty instead of the usual denial.

Why can't Morty x Summer be the popular ship god damn it.
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>>94950555
The problem is that "character exploration" only works when the characters are worth exploring.

This is just some gay will-they won't-they platonic love affair stretched out over a TV series. This is literally a romcom.
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>>94950518
He had a "clamshell" phone too, when Rick first discovered signals from their toxic versions. Why would he make the switch?
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>>94950570
http://princerits.tumblr.com/
One of the pics looks like they have small boobs so I guess?
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>>94950588
Probably to check stocks or something.
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>>94950565
>It wasn't a brick it was a clamshell. Very important distinction.

Sorry, I guess the main point was when Morty said "I only use it for emergencies." Nevertheless, he sees smartphones as toxic to society because people are so consumed by them.
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>>94950518
Morty cares about Rick. He knows that it was Rick who was trying to find him. It's why he picks up the phone and doesn't disconnect it.
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>>94950573
>suicidal
>lazy
These two traits combined made me laugh, I'm sorry anon.

>Wants to kill self
>Doesn't have any medication lying around
>Doesn't want to go out and buy a gun
>Doesn't know how to tie a noose and doesn't want to learn how
>Doesn't have any rope lying around anyway
>All the good knives are in the dishwasher
Fuck it, guess I'm not killing myself
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>>94950581
>only works when the characters are worth exploring.
>Rick the logical conclusion of the mad genius archetype, a character that has pretty much never existed before isn't worth exploring
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>>94950203
>hesitant
>low-esteem
>lethargic and passive
>anxious
>depressed
>lazy
>perfectionistic
so I guess my good self would end up being
>impulsive
>confident
>hyperactive and aggressive
>carefree
>apathetic
>productive
>messy and sloppy

how would your healthy self fuck you over, /co/? what terrible traits would they end up with?
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>>94950588
It was probably just a good old fashioned continuity error combined with the visual significance of portraying Morty as being wealthy and self sustaining.
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>>94950577
>>94950581
>tfw I ship rickmorty but I don't wanna admit that these anons are kind of right and this episode really did fuel my ship
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>>94950612
If you can't relate you're on the wrong website, cunt.
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http://rule34-data-008.paheal.net/_images/2704c29bb969e7192081375aeb4791e9/2293372%20-%20Rick_and_Morty%20Stacy%20killerqueen.png
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>>94950518
Some small part of clean-Morty probably thought that he should go back to how he used to be. Morty from the start of the show would have put more of that part of himself into clean-Morty but lately he has been getting a lot of mileage out of the moments when he shoves emotion and righteousness aside to focus on the most immediate and dangerous problem.
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>>94949926
What's funny is the mythopoetic men's movement was all about solving "toxic masculinity" but feminists called it a hate movement and dissmised them because they believed that toxic feminity was also a source of serious problems for society. They were pro feminism in general until they kept shtting on them for no reason. Then you started to see the roots of modern anti-feminism.
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>>94950615
>a character that has pretty much never existed before
This is what children actually believe.
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>>94950518
Because they needed normal north for the show to continue

S H I T W R I T I N G
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>>94950612
I mean, there are lazy ways to off yourself, like jumping from a high point or drinking some toxic cleaning stuff
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>>94950643
Find me another example explored with nearly as much depth as this show. I would love to see it.
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You know, I was thinking that i saw this episode premise somewhere, Now i remember, this episode is literally the same that one gag of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
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>>94948812
Definitely the best episode of the season. Kinda reminded me of Season 1.
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>>94950511
He considered the part of him that was always worrying about moral misgivings as toxic, since it held him back from being happy/worry-free. But this got lumped in with his insecurities, social anxiety, low self-esteem, etc., so you didn't see it much in toxic Morty.

The hint came along when detox Morty was willing to just leave toxic R&M behind. You saw a bit more of it when he talked the entire time on his date with Jessica, and was completely unfazed when she left. Jacqueline said it at end as well, she thought he had no conscience and became a stock broker.
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>>94949529
My toxic self would just beat the shit out of 'healthy' me if we were separated. Fuck, hopefully I don't see my violence as toxic as I think I do.
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>>94950626
Nice!
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>>94950617
That's not how it works. It's not "makes you the opposite of your flaw." If you rid someone of their perfectionism they wouldn't be sloppy they would just be regular being able to handle things not being perfect all the time. Ridding someone of their messiness wouldn't be a perfectionist it would be just regular clean.
For instance. Rick removed his ego but he didn't become a downer; he just stopped being egotistical about his intellect.
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>>94950661
Eh, You're kind of right, it's similar.
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>>94950612
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>>94950653
>Find me another example explored with nearly as much depth as this show
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkWithAHeartOfGold

>TVTROPES?????
I'm giving you the response you deserve.
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>>94950691
Wrong. Completely and totally wrong. It was clear from the beginning you didn't know what you were talking about.
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>>94949808
This is wrong. Dany is his aunt, moron
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>>94950565
Samsung still makes them with modern specs. China exclusive. They've been making these exclusive flip phone for two years (release if a different model each year), and it seems they sell well enough to keep making them.
>Two screens, both 4.2 inchs.
>12 megapixel camera
>2,300 mAh battery
>4GB ram
>64GB storage
>Snapdragon 820
Expensive as fuck though. Roughly $3,000.
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>>94949910

Quite a few people on /co/ don't understand that auburn is a shade of red hair; you'll see that in any thread about redheads.
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>>94950686
>he didn't become a downer
Now I wish he did, that would've been really interesting to see
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>we got a tiny bit of development on Jessica

I'll take it
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People arguing about the cell phone are a bit simple. Obviously he upgraded when he became the wolf of wall street.
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>>94950647
>>94950518
He did it to make Jackie that woman jealous, Morty just wants to control people
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>>94950626
PRAISE THE LORD
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>>94950704
But it wouldn't work anywhere else and I'm sure using apps on it would be a pain.
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>>94949808
He's Dany's nephew not her brother you fucking schmuck.
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>>94950701
Gripping argument, chap.

>bwaaaa, my fandom has a coat of sci-fi paint on it and that makes all parts of it totally unique and never seen before in over 5,000 years of written history
The sheer arrogance is mind-boggling. You seriously think that in over 5,000 years there's never been a better writer write a story about a jerk with a heart of gold?

>b-b-b-but rick doesn't have a heart of gold
Making this merely a subversion of the trope, not something new and never seen before. Oh wow, the character they were building up to reveal his heart of gold turns out just to be an asshole. NEVA BIN DUN B4.

I'm embarrassed for you.
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>>94950619
bruh I don't even have any ships I just wanna see morty rape porn (jellyking or vance are perfect for it)

>>94950626
h-hayai!
doing god's work, senpai
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>>94950626
this is good
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My Toxic Self would have to be a collection of what I percieve as unwanted traits, not the result of some objective removal of negative traits that keep me from not being evil, or a consensus of what would make me nice.
So what happens if I'm evil, but I enjoy being evil? Not being edgy, I've put my lack of morals to good use. I'm about to marry a shy, damaged girl for her money, and I cheat on her all the time.
I lie to her every day when I tell her I love her. She had a mild heart problem recently and my only worry was "don't die before you marry me, you fatso!"
As I type this she's right next to me and I don't care because she can't read English. I'm actively enjoying typing this next to her.
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>>94950717
>no summer piss play jokes this season
at least we got that line at the end of this episode
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>>94950735
>but rick doesn't have a heart of gold
Continue to prove my point. I never said Rick didn't have a heart of gold. He clearly does. You just failed spectacularly of showing me another example of the type of character Rick is. And you clearly never understood what his character even was in the first place.
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>>94950739
>morty rape porn
same, mate, and you'll find lots of that with Rick, which is sort of why I started shipping it in the first place. I was merely a shotafag before that.
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>>94950745
>My Toxic Self would have to be a collection of what I percieve as unwanted traits, not the result of some objective removal of negative traits that keep me from not being evil, or a consensus of what would make me nice.
Yeah that's what it said in the episode. Did you watch it? You clearly didn't because if you did then you'd know Morty becomes a sociopath. Also you're a piece of shit.
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>>94950203
1. Procrastination
2. Bit of of a lazy streak.
3. Lack of 'sticking' to things for the long term sometimes. Seeing things through. I start something, stop, start again, etc.
4. Self confidence/esteem. I used to have loads of it when I was younger, but it's been tough building it back up again after some major/minor setbacks. Working out definitely helps, though.
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>>94950752
So you're literally attempting to say that a half-assed coat of sci-fi paint makes this totally new and complex?

No, I think it just makes it more accessible to you. I guess 5,000 years of literature doesn't mean much when you can barely fucking read, right? Maybe this really is the most complex rendition you've seen. Like I said, I'm embarrassed for you.

>You just failed spectacularly of showing me another example of the type of character Rick is
He is literally the most bottom of the barrel bog standard jerk with a heart of gold that could possibly fucking exist. Oh he's a lonely genius embittered with the world but his one weakspot is his family. Fucking groundbreaking.

Jesus fucking Christ, there are Marvel villains more complex than that.
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>>94950686
he hated that he he was an egoist and he stopped being egotistical. the parts of him left were the parts where he cared about others.
that parts of you left become what you are, so essentially yeah, you do become the opposite (assuming you are a complex person like any 3DPD)
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>>94950615

get some taste
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>>94950662
It was much more like "Doctor Who but R-rated" than "The emotional fallout of being a character in 'Doctor Who but R-rated'"
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This ep was amazing. Last week and this one were good. i hope that the rest of the season is like this.
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Thoughts on why Rick isn't a cyborg anymore?
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>>94950745
It would depend on what you actually feel is negative. Being greedy doesn't mean you feel that greed is a good thing. You aren't enjoying being evil because evil isn't a trait. You enjoy your disattachment to things but then you might also view your attachment to money and success as negative things.
I mean obviously your whole post is just roleplaying so this is all purely hypothetical.
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>>94950307
Beth broke the phone, not him.
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>>94950817
Well, he's not now.... considering he was just regenerated... but yeah, he had cyborg parts in Whirly Dirly but didn't here.
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>>94950588
It was more of a social statement than an expression of sincere emotion. It didn't really matter to Morty whether he committed to it, if it became inconvenient he would have just changed it. It was like that with the clamshell phone, and it was like that with Jessica. He didn't really care about integrity.
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>>94950817
He's constantly getting new bodies.
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>My thread survives when I actually thought it was gonna be ignored and archived like all my previous R&M htreads

>People are trying to make complex the "toxic self" topic
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Weird how the best episodes in the season aren't written by the new writers? And the episodes they do write are pretty awful. Like a fanfiction come alive. It's probably a coincidence though.
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>>94950791
Doctor Venture is actually a pretty good example however he doesn't take it as far as Rick and Morty does. Venture is a more grounded example where science isn't totally magic and able to do almost anything like in Rick and Morty so Rusty is a much more pathetic type of character which is also good. Rick and Morty encompasses more of the entire concept of a super genius by going to the very extreme with it. Rusty is like a good halfway point. Good job you succeeded where the other anon failed.
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>>94950760
>you'll find lots of that with Rick
o-oh?

anyway, those scenes were begging for it of all the porn plots that exist I'm disspointed people aren't making use of this. if there's none by this season's end maybe I'll just draw it myself
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>>94950836
yes my /b/rother fucking women am i rite
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>>94950790
The opposite of egotistical would be that you then think you are worse than everyone else.
It's not a binary configuration and would be more of a slider that goes to 0 as you remove traits instead of a slider that goes to the opposite extreme.
Perfectionists don't become slobs.
There are some cases where that is more lenient like if you hate that you fall in love easily then you don't become incapable of love but if you hate that you even feel love then you become like rick and lose all feelings for the person.
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>>94950825
Rewatch the scene instead of spewing bullshit, please
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>>94950817
The show plays fast and loose with stuff like that because you can come up with any explanation you want for why he doesn't have them.
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>>94950768
We're all pieces of shit, friend. Some of ID just stink more, and few of us hide the smell very fucking well.
Should I try to change? Why?
Why are you trying constantly be good? What's the real difference between being a POS that hides it and someone who is actually good?
You're not better than me, friend. You're just living with the stress of trying to do good even when you don't feel like it and I'm not.
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>>94950834
Rather lame if it happened off-screen. It was made a big deal in the last episode.
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>>94950859
>It was made a big deal in the last episode.
No it wasn't. It was a joke in the last episode.
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>>94949808
Reminder that Rhaegar named both of his sons Aegon
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>>94950835
What else are we supposed to talk about, loser?
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>>94950841
>I'll just draw it myself
Please do, we definitely need more of it
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Jeez Gravity Falls has been over for how long as he's still referencing it with 8 Ball in the corner
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>>94950858
>We're all pieces of shit, friend. Some of ID just stink more, and few of us hide the smell very fucking well.
This is literally the go to argument of sociopaths. It's not true but you people really believe it.
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>>94950626
There is a god and he is you.
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>>94950854
Ooof, yeah I just rewatched it. My mistake, sorry
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>>94950888
Holy fuck it's Caliborne
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>>94950865
Usually R&M make a point to be consistent between episodes. Such as the tiny pink spores stuck to the glowing green rocks from episode Mortynight Run that eventually become the memory-hacking aliens from Total Rickall.
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>>94950301
Detoxed Morty isn't a sociopath, just a bit of an asshole. In my experience in dealing with sociopaths, they very much are like the cartoony depiction of what you'd expect a sociopath to be(selfish, irresponsible, entitled, narcissistic, incredibly cruel, hypersexual, manipulative, and controlling. Think of Patrick Bateman). For instance, if Morty truly was a sociopath, he wouldn't have let Jessica go so easy and most likely would've made Jessica fall in love with him by manipulating her. He realized they weren't compatible so he her go, very unlikely for a sociopath to do, especially if they had an obsession with that person. It was also shown through out the episode that Morty had an interest in helping others, it can be argued that he was feigning emotional support so he can get on top of the highschool food chain but in a previous scene he was insinuating that he wanted to spend more time with rick by making plans to listen to more music with rick and later was actually worried for the well being of the planet when toxic Rick said he was going to toxify everything, a sociopath wouldn't have done those things if the end goal was just to spend time with his grandpa and preserve the planet just because.
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>>94950888
Unfortunately, bro-tato, that's a reference to Lord English from homestuck
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Okay this was by far the best fucking episode of the season
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>>94950915
If it needs to show up again it will. It didn't need to show up in this episode. You didn't need anything distracting from Rick getting crushed to death.
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>>94948840
I don't hate the episode, I just hate it's message: That Rick will always ruin everything around him, and none of the other characters will ever benefit from positive character development unless they pull a Unity and leave the series entirely. Which just isn't an option for Morty.

>>94948897
>they didn't throw all the emotional build up out the window

But they did. That's the point of that last parting scene. Rick drags Morty back to their adventures because that's how he copes with being a shitty person.

Character development doesn't matter, because the crazy old fuck ruins everything even when he's not trying to.
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>>94950941
Ok Harmon, calm down, jeez.
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Even if it was a bit boring the plot was at least fine.
At least they didn't put gore as excuse for jokes and there was no divorce crap.
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here's a fun game for you all.
>watch rest of season without credits
>rate them
>THEN find out who wrote most of it
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>>94950928
Well detoxed Morty wasn't a normal person. He had portions of his personality removed so some of the bad parts of being a sociopath were removed as well. Morty didn't care at all for the girl he left in the toxic tank. Morty had some good traits and some sociopathic ones.
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>>94949077
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>>94950906
>>94950932
Lack of Gold teeth and pointy ears make me not sure.
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>>94950956
I can't really take that as an insult because I've been listening to Dan Harmon so much I've begun to think like him.
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>>94950964
That's what I've been doing the whole time
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>>94950818
>your whole post is just roleplaying so this is all purely hypothetical
You'd like to believe that, dontcha.
Weak! You are weak!
I even encourage her smoking.
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>>94950964
I wish I could but you bastards keep writing it in the threads
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>>94950116

sexbot and when he was in the dream where his dog ruled the earth, this was probably the first real time though he wasnt his "full" self.
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>>94950915
>Usually R&M make a point to be consistent between episodes.

Huh? This is news to me.
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>>94951006
then... hide the threads?
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>>94951025
How am I supposed to discuss the episodes if I hide the threads though
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>>94951034
don't discuss till the season finale threads?
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>>94950967
Not him but detoxed Morty was living an objectively happier and more fulfilling life than regular Morty. If everything is subjective, what's wrong with choosing the happier option?

Rick is a cunt.
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>>94951047
Well that's just dumb
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>>94950996
>you would like to believe that
I know actual sociopaths. People who actually think the way you want to pretend you think.
However, I doubt that you have even been in a relationship and most likely are a kissless virgin.
This is the last (you) you will get from me though.
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>>94948953
What would your toxic-free self be?

Considering it's self-determined, I'd probably be a Christian fanatic. Just a lapsed Catholic right now, but whenever I think of it I feel I'd be most at peace if I could truly abandon worldly desires and live with a Christian mindset.
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>>94950128
>Non-toxic Morty is too good for that.

What, like sex in a committed relationship is bad?
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>>94951048
There was clearly something about his old life Morty yearned for or else he wouldn't have left the phone off the hook.
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>>94951049
there are probably better things to do than be here anyways. don't be trapped like us.
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>>94950967
Just because he's not a normal person doesn't mean it's not a step up. Regular Morty is a loser with a toxic family doing poorly at school-who goes on violent killing sprees when he can't take it anymore. Objectively, detoxed Morty is a better person in every way.

>>94951055
Also since I'm, well, here-probably some kind of published nonfiction author or blogger. Lot of keen insights, well respected presence in the literary community, good at expressing myself-and a total lack of capacity for imagination or creativity.

>>94951077
Oh sure. I just doubt that something was worth a damn.

I mean Jerry and Beth missed each other in that one timeline they didn't get married, and they STILL ended up divorced in the main one. And so far the show is portraying the divorce as, more or less, the healthier option.
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>>94950915
They make reference to previous episodes. They aren't trying to keep consistency. It's not like after the Unity episode Rick was super depressed and suicidal because of what happened in the previous episode.
>>94951016
They do make a lot of references in their episodes like the Vindicators episode morty uses the coupons from the Beanstalk episode.
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M E G A
P L E A S E
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>>94951104
>main one
Which main one are we talking about? They're married in the original world they escaped from.
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>>94950203
>The part that wastes time here instead of studying.
>The part that has been going to college for years because a part of me is afraid of change even though I work for like 20 bucks and hour.
>The part of me that continues to gorge myself on processed foods even though I know it's bad for me and I'd start losing weight if I'd actually fucking stop.
>The part of me that is gets aroused by /d/ shit
>The part of me that lies constantly to avoid attention.
>The part of me that demands attention regardless if I deserve it or not

With all that gone, I'd still be a productive human being, but I wouldn't have anxiety attacks that keep me awake all night.
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>>94951107
https://mega.nz/#!oqpASKIQ!Azo4TWhPRG-83evQZAigzojEcrEGYFgT8E6Wc3_7L4M
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>>94951077
He probably missed Rick and the adventures and decided to accept his fate so he could have his old life back. He probably didn't want to be WHO he was back then though. Rick is a dick for forcing morty to be unhappy for no reason.
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It may have been shown earlier than this but they had that girl Ethan broke up with Summer for talking about golden showers and dicks inside a foreskin to describe warmth.

If I remember they had Jessica talk about getting Bukkake in like a S1 or 2 episode right?
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>>94949375
Her boobs are shiny
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>>94949327
u mad because you know it's true?
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>>94951152
that was tammy who talked about bukkake
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>>94951121
The one the show focuses on since the Cronenburgs.
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>hey morty our characters changed this episode
>and then we undid litterally all character development

>haha weird rick
>almost like every FUCKING EPISODE FOR THE PAST SEASON

this is getting ridiculous.
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>>94951152
That was Tammy
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>>94951104
>still ended up divorced
Rick stated that he did that on purpose.
Because Jerry "tried to turn [him] into the government so [he] made them both disappear."
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>>94950203
I'm a narcissist. I would come out of it just like I came in. I probably wouldn't even go though, out of fear of losing even a slight part of me.
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>>94949229

Sure, he became a stock broker, but I don't see how it was amoral
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>>94951188
No, it seems that Rick is now aware of why he does what he does, and he's now more assertive and less destructive.
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>>94951188
>>and then we undid litterally all character development
Self-awareness isn't character development?
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>>94949995
>credit song
>bad
you gay?
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>>94951169
I agree god isn't real but they were really hammering it in this episode. Where's the guy that posts that one copy pasta all the time? It was basically that.
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>>94950960
this

it was like an actually fun episode where they didn't have to act depressed about everything.
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>>94951188
What episode in season 1 or 2 has this ever happened? At best it was like this episode and they just showed their inner workings and not them actually changing at any point.
I would prefer something concrete and not vague like "morty is more assertive now." For every one thing that backs this previous example up there are 3 more that disprove it but since it says "more" people will argue it like its fact.
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This episode was relatable.

Having just one or two people who genuinely care about you makes life worth living
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>>94951190
It was already going poorly before that when he was the only one complaining about Rick's shenanigans. Besides at this point Rick's as much a force of nature as a character, if he didn't want that marriage to last they were better off without each other.
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>>94950203
Depressed, lack motivation, excessive anger to meaningless defeats, lacking any self-worth/self-hatred, social failure, and sexual degenerate.
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>>94951190
didn't rick fucking do that?
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>>94951188
That would force them to change the formula, which inevitable fucks everything up.
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>>94950203
I hate myself whenever I start hating myself.

So I dunno.
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>>94950817
I think everything but his torso and part of his head is augmented
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>>94951257
I don't care really, but they're teasing character development and then almost next scene they go "haha gotcha!"

I really don't know what to say about this.
its like anti growth or an anti arc.
Just feels like poison to even give a shit about the characters.
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>>94951200
>more assertive

He's always been that.

>less destructive

Oh, bullshit. Literally nothing in the last few episodes before this one makes me believe THAT will stick.

>>94951205
Not when the episode introducing it, goes out of it's way to show it being rendered meaningless.

>>94951250
He did, he went out of his way to plead for clemency for the family in exchange for (((Jerry))) turning Rick in. Jerry didn't do shit other than exist as something for Beth to maybe care about more than Rick, though as Rick points out Jerry is a legitimately shitty person but he didn't actually do anything to Rick personally.

>>94951257
There's still a balance. One that errs heavily against positive, lasting character development in this show.
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>>94951240
In the episode with the marriage counselor it was shown that they are both codependant on each other.
Whether we view this as healthy on the outside does not effect the way they feel about each other inside the show. Most likely they will end up getting married again.
Humans don't always choose the healthiest option.
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>>94950817
because the writers forgot they did that for a gag.
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>>94951282
>Humans don't always choose the healthiest option

Exactly. Like. I. Said, they're objectively better off without each other. If anything the show supports this by having the marriage's dissolution supported by the character touted as the one that's always right.
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>>94951250
If you rewatch the episode Jerry tries to convince the family to turn Rick in before Rick eventually turns himself in.
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>its another episode where the writers go out of their way to show what character flaws rick has and how deep he is as a person

wubalubadubdub was already pushing it.
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>>94951195
He suckered some guy into a shit deal by feeding him some garbage spiel/analogy about it being a hot redhead, I mean he even winked at one of the girl coworkers who tried to hold back a snicker while he was doing it.

One of his coworkers literally called him a monster afterward, while Jacqueline said he had no conscience. It was pretty clear.
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>>94951305
>>94951281
So rick turns himself in
then blaims it on jerry
breaks out of jail
basically convinces himself that jerry did do it
and then makes his daughter divorce her husband under a lie he wants to believe, that was supposed to be him being the caring person?

thats kind of fucked up.
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>>94951281
>Not when the episode introducing it, goes out of it's way to show it being rendered meaningless.
My point was that they're now acutely self-aware of the things they hate about themselves.
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>>94951104
>Objectively, detoxed Morty is a better person in every way.
Sure but that doesn't mean Morty can't become better by bettering himself instead of taking a cheap way out.
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>>94951302
It's not objectively happier if Morty isn't happier in his own opinion. It's only happier from our perspective.
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I found it really cool to see how Rick and Morty acted after the toxicity was back in their bodies, like Jessica pointing out how Rick kept calling her and crying and begging her to help him get Morty back, him denying it, they were acting the same as always but somehow I saw them under a different light. Pretty cool.
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>>94951282
Hopefully they end up friends with eachother and not married.
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>>94951328
he probably never can without drugs, years of therapy and his grandpa leaving him alone.
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>>94950928
>He realized they weren't compatible so he her go
Not really. In my opinion, he was playing the long game. It's why he gave himself up in the end: building an empire and then letting Jessica see it to make her admire him and jealous of his girlfriend.
>actually worried for the well being of the planet when toxic Rick said he was going to toxify everything
Why would Morty want to live in a world of savages?
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>>94950577
Shit ship. Beth x Morty > Summer x Morty
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So about what Tricia said at the begining... Is Ethan uncircumcised?
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I've been enjoying this season as a whole but this episode and the last have been a step above the rest. What's going on
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>>94951221
I think there was one time someone mentioned god not being real. How were they hammering it in?
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>>94951319
No Jerry tries to convince the family to turn Rick in.
Rick then punishes him by getting him divorced.
That's why he says "TRIED to turn me into the government."
Jerry did try to turn Rick in but Rick ended up turning himself in instead.
If johnny says he is going to fuck my wife but I end up fucking my wife instead I will still be mad at johnny for trying to fuck my wife.
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>>94950203
>Alcoholic
>Anxious
>Depressed
>Low self-esteem
>Resentful

Pretty much a mix of toxic R+M
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>>94951342
Yeah, but he was also very aware that Jessica and Rick were trying to play him so he could be tracked and that she didn't really want him back.
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>>94950726
No it happens because it was an honest mistake.
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>>94951237
Ain't that the truth
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>>94951362
(at least before she tells Morty that she's glad he's back)
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>>94951351
>Penis in the foreskin
That's a gay thing
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>>94951306
It's another episode of Rick and Morty is what you're saying
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>>94951328
>Cheap way out
Yeah, ok. Using technology is the 'cheap way out'. Guess we should all stop using modern medicine and modern convinces that make life easier. Go back to doing it the hard way when there's a clearly superior option.
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>>94951356
the problem is that johnny didn't fuck your wife, and you put a bag over your head pretending to be johnny so your wife thought johnny was better.

and then you told johnnys wife that he tried having sex with your wife.
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>>94951330
That was the one weird thing about this episode. Rick shouldn't have cried to Jessica that's ridiculous. He could have just copied her voice.
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>>94949435
>That would've been worse, he would've become evil morty

GOOD. Bring that the fuck on already.
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>>94951383
Modern medicine doesn't cut away a portion of yourself you can learn to live with, idiot.
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>>94951389
If Johnny threatens to tell my wife I cheated on her and I end up telling my wife that I cheated on her then I'm still gonna be mad at Johnny because he was going to tell my wife.
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Sea cucumber! SEA CUCUMBER!
what happened?
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>>94951397
Trust me I feel ya, but that's season finale type of shit, for now we're getting hints of how it will be
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>>94951390
Which kinda implies that she actually did come to their house and beg him to get the old Morty back. Why would Rick bother imitating her voice when the real thing is handily around.
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>>94949529
Good god can you imagine if those camps where religious folk tried to make gay kids straight got a hold of this? All they have to do is convince them that being gay is toxic, and then put them into the machine.

Toxic boysluts everywhere.
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>>94951412
Oh yeah you're right. I didn't think about it.
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>>94951412
Maybe he kidnapped her then
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>>94951406
but you have to pretend to be johnny first with the paper bag

you keep forgetting the paper bag!
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>>94951321
And my point is that as character development, that's pretty poor when it doesn't have any tangible effect on their decisionmaking and therefore the plot.

>>94951328
>that doesn't mean

Oh COME THE FUCK on, are we watching the same show?! The entire FORMULA is Rick draggins Morty into degrading shit that cuts off any opportunities for personal improvement at the cost of him (sometimes literally) getting his rocks off.

I'd take a cheap way out over certain lack of agency any day of the fucking week.

>>94951319
It's kind of a running theme that Rick is fucked up but also usually has a point, yeah. He's not wrong about Jerry being a passive aggressive little bitch, but he was the guy who put the family in that position in the first place.

>>94951329
Our perspective is the only one we can use to guage his happiness. Also that's a stupid statement to make when Morty goes "guys I'm UPSET" the second he goes back to being himself, and the last shot is him looking wistfully back at Jessica, and all manner of evidence from 2 seasons of him generally not being happy about his life up until the detox.
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>>94951342
>Why he gave himself up in the end
He didn't give himself up. He accepted he didn't hit the button and made a dumb mistake. He knows he couldn't escape from this version of Rick. You're looking for something that isn't there.
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>>94951405
>Modern medicine doesn't cut away a portion of yourself you can learn to live with
You'd have some spiritual revelations learning how most of the anti-depressants work then, anon
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>>94951412
I'm confused

so jessica came to rick and pretended that rick came to jessica so she wouldn't look desperate?

thats cute if true
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>>94949502
>>94948853
especially the part with the kids
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>>94951383
>Guess we should all stop using modern medicine and modern convinces that make life easier
There's a reason we don't do lobotomies anymore.
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People need to stop making excuses for Rick. He's a cunt with dependency issues, and he's never going to get better because he's too spiteful to admit he's wrong, and because the show's formula will always, always, support him being himself.

t. Morty
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>>94949792
At least, it wouldn't purge that part of them.

If anything, Hitler would have his lack of self control, paranoia, and inner doubts be purged. It'd legit make him a better leader.
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>>94951390
>>94951412
>>94951434
That's retarded. You're looking for clues that aren't there. If she really was interested in Morty she could've told him while he was being dragged through a portal, and if Rick cared that much he wouldn't have been dragging him through it in the first place.
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>>94951405
A portion of yourself that is purely negative in every way.

There is no downside. No reason to live with it. You sound like one of the religious fundamentalists who refuse modern medical treatment in favor of praying the illness away.
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>>94951445
No one's been making excuses for him, Morty, we're just analyzing his character
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>>94951423
There doesn't need to be a paper bag.
The fact that he gave Jerry the credit for turning him in doesn't matter.
He over hears Jerry trying to turn him in in the episode so he punishes him by getting him divorced. He would have done the same thing if he gave Morty credit for turning him in.
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>>94951457
but jessica isn't open about her feelings like that, we litterally saw that this episode that jessica is reserved when mortty was super open to her.
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>>94951429
Anti depressants should only be a last resort after a thorough mental diagnoses. Doctors hand out antidepressant prescriptions if you even mention you're sad these days and that's terrible. They can really fuck you up.
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>>94951104
>>94951328
>>94951424

>Objectively, detoxed Morty is a better person in every way.
If he kept this up he would have gone full american psycho and you know it.
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>>94951459
No that's wrong. It's only something that YOU see as bad about yourself which is more often than not not really a bad thing or nearly as bad as you think it is. You will be far healthier learning to accept things about yourself than removing them entirely. Thinking that you're too shy does not mean that's an actual flaw.
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>>94951425
>clearly articulates that he's aware the call is being tracked by Rick
>still somehow fucks up on hanging the fucking phone
I think it's you who refuses to see something that's clearly there
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So, does Morty normally have suicidal tendencies or something? Toxic Morty seemed to really want to die
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>>94951457
>If she really was interested in Morty she could've told him while he was being dragged through a portal
High school girl, anon.
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>>94951470
Reminder that the story implies heavily that Bateman did not do anything and all those murders were just in his head.
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>>94951425
it was pretty obvious that he left the phone on.

they wouldn't show the phone again unless morty did that on purpose.
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>>94951424
>Rick draggins Morty into degrading shit that cuts off any opportunities for personal improvement at the cost of him (sometimes literally) getting his rocks off.
Not really. Morty has grown a lot through the adventures and the adventures really don't have to do with Morty's personal improvement. If Rick weren't there he would be the same as he started out.
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>>94951482
I don't think he wanted to die so much as he just had no desire to keep living.
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>rick apologized for burping

that was weird

I don't know why. that almost felt wrong.
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>>94951482
Nah Toxic Morty was just all the self loathing and low self esteem apart from all the good stuff so of course it wanted to die or just sit in a puddle of itself.
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>is this like a sex dungeon?
hot.
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>>94951504
That's the point
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>rick views his attachment to morty as a negative


what
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>>94951503
Well that's sort of the same thing, except one is more active and the other passive, but at the core they're pretty much the same, no?
>>94951510
Could be, but I don't think so
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I'm just glad they didn't go full trading places and injected the morty into rick and rick into morty.
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>>94951518
He sees it as irrational since there are infinite Morties
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>>94951495
I severely disagree on that. Rick literally broke his faith in his childhood heroes during the Vindicators episode, made him cynical through the Cronenburg and Fart episodes, and went on a full villain victory lap at him in S3's opening.

>>94951518
That's because it is.

>>94951470
Good for him. That's still better than being a petulant loser with no agency until he goes berserk, and no respect ever.

>>94951468
>>94951486
You're not wrong, but.

There's far, far too little circumstantial evidence for me to believe it's anything more than a red herring. This show lives and breathes red herrings. Remember that time we thought the Galactic Federation was gonna upend the status quo? Yeah, me neither.
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>>94951518
Why else would he always be denying his feelings? Rick knows it's dumb to feel attachment like that to someone. He left his own daughter to fend for herself in a nightmare world.
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>>94951518
Of course he does. As far as he's concerned, it's a contemptible and irrational weakness.

>>94951520
>but at the core they're pretty much the same, no?
No. A desire to die stems from self-hatred while no desire to live stems from apathy. The two can intersect (for example, someone who has no desire to live embarking on a suicidal venture for a good cause) but by and large they're distinct from one another.
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>>94951537
I don't deny that Rick is hurting Morty I just don't think that the adventures means Morty can't take good points away from them. A big part of Rick's character this season is getting tired of Rick's shit and seeing the errors in his ways.
>>
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>>94951556
A big part of Morty's character*
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>>94951562
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>>94951567
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>>94951555
>A desire to die stems from self-hatred while no desire to live stems from apathy.
Oh, guess that explains a lot about myself
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>>94951567
Pretty sure that's supposed to be after the guy has gotten with the new girl.
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>>94949010
No he believed that connections are toxic and it isn't difficult to see why be believed that when he saw his wife get murdered
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>>94950518
He knew it was a ploy to get him back by tracking him. He answered anyway and left it on to manipulate her
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>>94951569
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>>94951518
>>94951537
>>94951540
>>94951555
>loving your grandson is a bad thing
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>>94951574
We don't know if that was true or what parts of it were true.
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>>94951572
Yeah it's a normie meme.
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>>94951518
He views his unhealthy possessive obsession with Morty as negative. "Rick and Morty 100 years" rant and all that. That us vs universe mentality is what he felt was unhealthy, he still seemed to like Morty well enough after getting the toxicity removed.
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>>94951582
In Rick's eyes. Keep up, anon.
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>>94951556
>I just don't think that the adventures means Morty can't take good points away from them

Well I do, because having watched up to now I've noticed he ALWAYS only takes away bad points. Good points tend to be downplayed (Get Schwifty), rendered sour at the end (Gazorpzorp) or questionable at best (the evil alternate morty one).

He's been tired of Rick's shit since S2, he went ballistic from the strain during the purge.

>>94951582
It's not.

Loving your grandson but still knowingly putting him in harm's way, belittling his beliefs and spitefully trying to monopolise yourself as his priority at the cost of his happiness and success, is.

Rick is like the bad kind of Asian parent, if Asian parents didn't bother getting their kids to study.
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>>94951515
And so the best girl in the series went and gone never to be relevant again.
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>>94951584
Rick literally told his toxic self that
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>>94951602
she got popped out in the after credits

so she'll totally be a part of the show now.
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>>94951582
>>loving your grandson is a bad thing
As far as Rick is concerned, yeah. He can literally just go to the store and get a new grandson whenever he feels like it; he'd probably care more about some random piece of shit in his garage than about Morty if he was perfectly rational.
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>>94951607
When?
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>>94951594
Wrong. Loving them is fine, obsession isn't.
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>>94951612
>so she'll totally be a part of the show now
You know I want to believe you, but, sadly, I know better.
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>>94951612
Right, and any day now Unity's coming back.

And the Vindicator lady will enact her evil plan to be not!Richards or whatever.

And Phoenix Person will do a thing.

Sure they aren't all just gags that will never be reused again.
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>>94951619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1l9QsxH4I
>17:19
>my irrational attachments
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>>94951628
Just you wait
I'm not Justin
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>>94951628
>phoenix person

that one I'm like 99% sure is actually going to be a thing.
>>
This was a great episode.
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>>94951582
did you miss the part where it just follows a logic and isn't an ultimate authority on good and bad
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>>94951636
We were talking about the wife getting murdered, and we don't know if that was real or a fabricated memory
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>>94951636
porn of sea cucumber when?
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>>94951656
Oh you're just being retarded then. The lack of evidence does not prove anything.
>>
that moontower thing is actually kind of neet
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>>94951644
I'm 101% sure it's not when it wrote off Gear Person as another guest at Rick's impromptu party.

>>94951642
Literally who?
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>>94951711
I bet you twenty dollars monopoly money that hes coming back.
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>still no fetish goop lewds
I'm disappointed
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>>94950745
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
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>>94950626
My man!
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who else thinks rape needed to happen
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>>94948903
Pickle Rick was actually a very good episode that just had the misfortune of being easier to meme about than it was to discuss
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>>94949122
>>94949141
You don't have to work this hard to rationalise it
The fact of the matter is that it's a comedy show and showing a group of kids murdering a clown or whatever is a funny 1 second gag, and sets up another easy gag when the whole thing is undone (it's the same dumb easy gag as in Jerry's episode, when the kid kills his sister)

That's literally all it is. It's funnier and appears to make sense at a quick glance which is all you get which was good enough. If they wanted to do it right the kids would just be wetting the bed and being super weak
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>>94951799
>hurr Rick is a badass
>durr family problems therapist
It was one part superficial action bravado and one part the most vapid family drama the series has ever seen. The meme part was the only thing that actually stood out for people to talk about.
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>>94949882
It really isn't. The episode makes clear is not objective toxicity it's what the character believes is toxic

Rick thinks his irrational attachment to Morty is toxic and holding him back, which actually does nothing but completely confirm that he absolutely does harbor an unconditional love for Morty. He hates it, or at the very least believes it holds him back, but he undoubtedly feels it

The exact opposite of your conclusion.
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>>94949882
Wrong. Rick's idealized form of himself would be a detached person. The brain cleansing or whatever creates an idealized form of yourself based on your own notion of ideal. Rick feels such attachments to be detrimental so it was filtered to booger rick.
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>>94951656
>We were talking about the wife getting murdered, and we don't know if that was real or a fabricated memory
Beth literally said Rick left her Mother you massive idiot.
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>>94951620
Rick's not obsessed, he just loves him unconditionally

Like you do with family

And in Rick's eyes that's toxic.
Keep
Up
Anon
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>>94951671
The creators of the show themselves have said they don't know if the memory was real or not you retard.
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>>94950208
army of darkness did it
zelda 2 did it

look at all the shit that did it http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnemyWithout

it's an old as fuck concept for sure
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>>94948812
Are you 14?

This shit was weak
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>>94950371
i'd fugg toxic rick and hugg neutralized rick
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>>94950472
rick wasn't referring to jessica tho, he was referring to that blonde pigtails girl with the freckles in the anatomy park episode
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>>94952124
>female writers
>morty starts fucking around with grown women

guess women really love /ss/
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>>94951969
underage spotted
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>>94952111
I'd fuck both of them, plus both versions of Morty too
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>>94952160
but anon, morty's 14 you pedo
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>>94952134
>female writers
>women are being drawn with more and more ridiculously huge boobs as the season progresses
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I still can't believe Rick is 70 years old wtf
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>>94952169
Morty is also fictional
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>>94950537
Ayn Rand is touching herself right now thinking about that.
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>>94949265
He literally went full on Wolf of Wall Street. He was minutes away from tossing a midget at a giant bullseye.
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>>94949327
>>94951221
They hammered it in because Rick's toxicity makes him obsessed with drilling it into people skull that life has no meaning, and that combined with the extreme arrogance and lack of all inhibitions that stayed with healthy Rick meant that toxic Rick was saying it constantly because that's how he works
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>>94950432
>Bojack
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>>94950432
Aw, they still have a picture of snowball
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>>94952304
2D children = real children
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>>94951419
>Toxic boysluts everywhere.
>They all make love to each other none stop.
>Before they fuse back with their selfs they have sex with their none toxic selfs.
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>>94952848
absolutely not
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>>94952237
WTF I love Rick and Morty now
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>>94950118
>morty's girlfriend looks like a superior jessica
eh, what a sleaze, anyway, great episode.
i really loved how they portrait social dynamics surrounding morty
>jessica only cares about status
>wants morty to boost her own status
>realizes morty doesn't cares about status, just about being happy and self reliance
>immediately backs off but realizes it's because of her
her last line was just the cherry on the top, i would love to see more of jessica desu, she is as naive as morty was in season 1.
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needs more jerry
he's the only character left that acts like a character and not a writer self-insert
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