Did anyone else get this joke at the time?

I mean shit I didn't even realize I got circumcised until I watched porn when i was like 11

>>94935355
I didn't know what circumcised meant until I was in my junior year of high school.

>>94935487
>>94935355
I feel bad for you guys.
Mutilated at birth. Fucking sick society.

>>94935511
Fuck off /pol/.

>>94935541
I'm >>94935487 and I don't go to /pol/ at all, but I wish I wasn't circumcised.

>>94935487
I didn't know what circumcision was until I was cut at 11 on vacation in a third world country.

>>94935541
>not wanting children to be mutilated is /pol/
Guess this definitively proves that pol are the good guys, then.

>>94935511
More american women prefer circumcision, have fun qtipping your smegma lol

>>94935567
>cut on vacation
>at 11
For what purpose.

>>94935567
>on vacation in a third world country.
Did you enjoy your stay in the US?

>>94935578
You know you can wash your body, right?

>>94935586
Because it was supposed to be my passage to adulthood.

>>94935589
I wish. I heard they use anesthesia there.

>>94935578
>American women
Just threw up in my mouth.

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>Thread has anything even remotely related to circumcision.
Oh boy, this is gonna be good!

I didn't even know what circumcision is until like 15 or so.

>>94935606
I dont think anons are capable of grooming themselves effectively.

>>94935578
>women
Where do you think we are?

>>94935650
Mods are going to shut it down because they're triggered by anything that isn't a general thread full of the same shitty circle jerking every single time.

>>94935541
>>94935578
Watch a circumcision video and then give us your opinion on the subject.
If you're still okay with it, then don't ever have kids.

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>>94935650
You mean americans furiously defending their mutilated dicks and denying that it's just them, the Muslims and the Jews, while the entire civilised world is horrified and mocks them mercilessly?
Yeah, those are great threads.

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Well anons, i tell my history about circumcision:
I born with a large foreskin in my penis, i can't pee in that state, so; i got a circumcision.
Not religious or cultural, only for medical purporse.
I had a bigger glande by that, so good

>>94935685
>procedure you dont even remember so that your dick is more attractive to women and cant get foreskin tears

Wow how horrific i dont know how anyone can recover, i'm still going to therapy from my memories of birth trauma

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You guys like cereal, right?
hahahaha

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Some fun facts about circumcision in the us.

Your average circumcision costs between 200 and 500 us dollars. It is a big business for hospitals, and for this reason American doctors recommend it by lying about the necessity of having it done.

Most of the circumcisions of infant boys in the US happens on the behest of their mothers, based on their own sexual preferences. They believe that genital mutilation will benefit the women their son will eventually have sex with, regardless of the problems it may cause their child.

Circumcision is invasive cosmetic surgery on newborns, often done with no aesthetics when preformed on infants, despite the fact that infants can feel pain just as clearly as an adult. The reasoning behind this is that they won't remember the pain.

>>94935736

You don't have to remember it for the physical trauma to have had an effect on a vulnerable, developing brain.

>>94935541
>/pol/
Nah, /co/ used to have a lot of circumcision threads 7 years ago, if anything we are going back to our roots.

>>94935769
You actually do have to remember it, or else the trauma of being born would fuck everyone up. That trauma doesnt fuck people up because a child's brain doesnt retain that shit.

Being born is a thousand times worse than a circumcision, and people turn out fine.

>>94935786
Anyone who says shit like; "go back to /pol/" haven't even been here for a year. This is undebatable truth, so don't even bother with them.

>>94935808
>
Why do you think Muslims and Americans are so angry all the time Anon?

>>94935541
/pol/ is pro circumcision, btw

>>94935769
Right, because everyone browsing this site is at the peak of mental health.

>>94935826
Internalized aggression about their mothers paying to have their already small dicks cut smaller?
Can't even blame them, it's the matriarchy's first attack on them and it scars them for life.

>>94935808

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=circumcision+trauma

>>94935624
>I wish. I heard they use anesthesia there.
Nope.

>>94935747
>my poor parents who had me a year out of highschool spent 200-500 dollars making sure my penis was aesthetic
Goals

>>94935825
That doesn't mean this thread is /co/ related if only OP's post is.

>>94935852
It is not tho

>>94935736
>I'm okay with mutilating my sons dick without his consent
I guess pro-choice only applies when you're a woman.
Also women aren't going to sleep with you just because your dick is cut. They care about your face and general physique and the size of your wallet more than anything.

>>94935826
All the other aspects of religion?

If you mutilate the genitals of your sons, you need to do the same to your daughters.
Gender equality matters, right?

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>>94935578
this isn't even true, even in America women prefer intact men on average and even those who prefer circumcised cite experiencing discomfort during copulation.
http://cirp.org/library/anatomy/ohara/

>>94935852

No, it isn't. Like any other board you've got a lot of people coming out for and against it.

The issue with discussing circumcision with people who have been circumcised is that it's an extremely complicated problem to unpack. Most people who have been circumcised aren't going to want to feel as if they were unnecessarily mutilated, and they're DEFINITELY not going to want to acknowledge that it was their parents that authorized that mutilation. Having never known what it was like to be intact (for infant circumcisions), they have no frame of reference to compare their current level of sensation to. It's difficult to maintain a level of anger towards the loss of something if you can't remember what it was like to have it to begin with, save in the case of botched circumcisions (which are more common than doctors may like to admit), where there is a constant painful reminder of what was done to them.

Unfortunately this winds up leading to people who say they will get their sons circumcised solely "because they want their kid to look like they do down there", or they rely on peer pressure arguments like "I don't want my kid to get made fun of in the locker room [for being an intact male]".

Most of all, the difficulty in talking about male circumcision is that you need to frame the conversation in a way that doesn't make it seem like you're attacking the victim of it, which immediately puts them on the defensive going forward.

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Is Superman circumcised?

Since Krypton has no Judaeo-Christian or Islamic influences, there can be no such thing as circumcision there. And by the time he was found by the Kents on earth, no scalpel would be able to cut his skin anyway. So this must mean Supes' dick is normal, right?

>>94936020
Female circumcision happened for a long time in England to prevent masturbation, which was the same reason male circumcision took off.

>>94936054
>And by the time he was found by the Kents on earth, no scalpel would be able to cut his skin anyway
It depends on how much solar radiation he absorbed by the time they took him to a doctor

>>94936091
He wasn't hurt at all by the impact of the spacecraft crashing into the ground, and when they tried to have him vaccinated in one of the stories the needles kept snapping until the doctors gave up.

>>94936032
The little polling data I've seen suggests American women do prefer circumcised dicks, at least in theory. However, as an uncircumcised guy, I've only had a few women even notice.

>>94936035
>"I don't want my kid to get made fun of in the locker room"
Have a buddy that did just that back in high school. We only ever teased him once too. But that was enough to make him feel left out or insecure to have the procedure.
Then we made fun of him for being a conformist sheep.
Those were the days.

>>94935578
Unless you're a Southern African or an Israeili, this is a complete lie.

>>94936054
Superman's dick may not look like a human dick at all. He could have a dog dick for all we know.

>there are people on the planet earth that condone the forced genital mutilation of completely helpless and vulnerable newborn children not yet even capable of speaking

This world is vile

>>94936054
Maybe kryptonians are born without it.

>>94936133
I just posted a study that comprehensively asked about satisfaction and preference.
Few women would notice because even in America circumcision is declining, they just took longer than the rest of the first world.
>>94936035
Ironically /pol/ circumcision threads end much quicker because of flags.
Literally only Americans defend it, even Israelis say it's stupid.

>>94936179
>kryptonians are 99% similar to humans in terms of looks
>but born without foreskin to protect the penis glands because Americans remove it as part of a religious ritual

Hm, gonna have to say no sir.

>>94935578
>american women

Stay away from me.

>american women

They got dem STDs

Don't come hanging around my door
You stupid gold digging cockwhore
I've got more important things to do
Than spend my money taking care of you

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Reminder that one of the main reasons we still do circumcision here in America is because a cereal manufacturer with substantial political power wanted to sell his cereal as an "anti-masturbation" cure for children and coupled it with the promotion of male geneital mutilation.


Thankfully, recently circumcision has been dying down in this country due to more availability to medical information, secularist ideals, and increased surgery costs giving parents less incentives to do it to their infants.

>>94935578
((((Their)))) propanganda seems to be working.

>>94936294
Costs be damned, no son of mine is going to grow up with a healthy, intact penis!

>>94935030
I wouldn't have understood.
I'm the first in my family to not be circumcised, when I accidentally saw my dad's penis as a kid when he left the shower I figured that's just what grown up doodles look like.
My parents just figured I should get to choose, which I grateful for otherwise I'd be the only guy my age without a foreskin.

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>>94935578
idk about other guys,but i can pull my foreskin back and wash myself like a non-autist

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>>94936551
it's not common knowledge for men but women get smegma too.
It's just oil buildup from your genitals, so of course vaginal folds can accumulate them just like penile folds.
Know why most guys aren't aware of this?
BECAUSE WOMEN FUCKING WASH THEMSELVES

>>94936551
Americans tend to have very poor hygiene, I think. Otherwise, "Your dick will be dirty if you leave it in one piece!!" wouldn't be that common an argument.

Isn't the whole point of getting your foreskin chopped so you can't jack it properly, hense the whole """lotion""" thing, that'd fucking suck, I love just being able to whack it whenever

>>94935578
literally just jerk off with some body wash while you're in the shower

>>94935694
Was masturbating easier with a foreskin?

>>94936787
It's so fucking sad that Americans can only jack it with spit, lotion or lube. Imagine needing an aid to do the most natural thing next to eating.

>>94936670
ok? dont worry, i know girls get smegma when they suck at washing their flaps. Did you know that if you have sex with a girl that has a yeast infection your dick will look like it's covered in cottage cheese when you pull out?

i just thought using qtips was weird

>>94935643
20-80% is a pretty wide margin.

>>94936830
idk, but i'm right handed but i use my left hand for masturbate...

Who here was born circumsized?

>>94936796
DOOOOOOOOONT DO THIS!!!!!!

>>94936091
Golden Age, Silver Age, and Post-Byrne all had super-durable skin

The only canon Superman that didn't have powers as a baby was Byrne era Supes

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>>94936787
>Used to think this was all a meme
>Pull back foreskin securely behind dick head and attempt to fap with just strokes and lube
>Shit's the most awful feeling
>Never came

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>>94936844

These were the US rates back in 2009.

>>94936956
I was remarking in general, I mean it's not exactly helpful having a category that covers 60% of the results, compared to two representative extremes that have only 20%. Speaking of which, why does the Midwest, hell, even South have such a high percentage compared to West?

I'm not mad that I was circumcised I'm mad that they didn't save it and pickle it so I could make a foreskin ring out of it and wear it on my finger.

>>94936767
Americans are clean crazy, actually. But media portrays foreskin as something that's hard to clean, so the vast majority of circumcised American men think so.

>>94937002

Apparently rates of circumcision are higher in rural areas than urban ones overall.

>>94936834
I'm cut and never needed lotion or lube to jack it. I tried it once in my early teens because that's how everyone always said they did it and I thought it was too messy and embarrassing noisy. My skin moves back and forth just fine.

Also I don't know why this is always such a debate on 4chan when most people here haven't and probably won't have their dicks touched by a girl or her pussy anyway.

>>94937005

They needed your foreskin to make face cream for post-menopausal Boomer women, anon.

>>94935355
This.

I had heard of the term but I didn't really understand the concept. When people asked if I was circumcised or not, I'd tell them "No" simply because I wasn't even aware that part of my dick was missing.

>>94937060
At least some part of my weiner touched a woman.

>>94937037
Neat stuff. Any reasons in particular? Somewhat doubt it's due to percentage of Jewish and Muslim minorities. Especially in the South. Is it just a remarkably American thing to stop your kid from wanking his brains out to yogurt commercials?

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>>94937104

>>94936927
I'm circumcised and I jack off dry fine all the time
I think you guys just aren't used to it

>>94937106

American Christians are more heavily influenced by Judaism than Christians in other countries, IIRC.

>>94937055
>Also I don't know why this is always such a debate on 4chan when most people here haven't and probably won't have their dicks touched by a girl or her pussy anyway.
that's exactly why these discussions are so prolific here.
Because most posters are virgins they have to hope at least they'll be good enough if they ever do get laid.
Thus they are incredibly self-conscious about anything that could pose as a disadvantage to them as a potential partner.
Dick size, circumcision, height, race, all make for easy bait.
The reason people will reply to BLACKED threads, the reason people will argue over circumcision or which women are the least slutty or what things make you a cuck is because this site is a haven of men who see their lives as "just begining", who think this stuff really matters to normal people and that in order to be happy they need to be assured they statistically have good odds.
"It's okay that I'm a virgin, I'm 6ft tall and white that means I win r-right?"
"I'm circumcised that's the best one right? I'm uncircumcised that is better right?"

But what do I know, I'm just a 5'1 tiny dick, circumcised black man with a women's studies degree who plays a 3DS in public

>>94937149
Is it weird I just use my thumb and middle and index finger to jack off?

>>94937191
>plays a 3DS in public
People get mad at people who play their gameboys in public?

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>>94937239
>>94937191

>Playing video games in public.

>>94937149
>"I'm barefoot and I walk over gravel fine all the time"
>"I think you guys just aren't used to it"
...

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>>94937239
if you're not a crossboarder, /v/ had a tripfag who was a stoner but ironically made anti-weed mspaint comics that got lots of replies.
This same poster or someone posing as him, I can't remember, made a comic depicting anyone playing a 3DS in public as a loser, while cool people play on their phones or read books.

Although it was his very typical form of bait, there were people influenced by it, so now autists get super overly self-conscious about even doing that.
>>94937282
see this guy

>>94937191
I'm sometimes genuinely surprised by the quality of the average /co/ poster.

>>94937239
Nah, but people will think of you as a manchild if you're over a certain age.

>>94937282
If I'm bored on a subway or bus I don't see a problem with it. As long as the sound is off so it won't disturb people around me.

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>>94935643
>South Korea

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>>94937327
over a certain weight*

Neckbeards look like neckbeards regardless of what they're doing.
Normal people can pull it off.

>>94935541
>If you don't mutilate the genitals of children you are a nazi
Fucking hell /co/

>>94937375
*women can pull it off

>>94937283
Unrelated, as a kid up until I was 18 or so, I would always walk barefoot during the summer because it was warm enough to do so.

I could sprint, run, jump, anything on even gravel.

>>94935736
>procedure you dont even remember so that your vagina is more attractive to older men
Wow how horrific I don't know how anyone can recover

>>94937393
Cute guys can pull it off just fine.
If you are too self-conscious to know if that's you, then it isn't.

>>94937375
>that alpha power sit where she hogs two chairs just for her legs
>having both a 3DS and her phone out in school

>>94937283
>>94937407
C-could you two tell me more about your feet?

>>94937375
I can't imagine the average US kid being slim enough to use one of those tard tables.

>>94937283
basically yeah, that's a pretty good analogy

>I can't breathe under water and I swim all the time
>I think you guys just aren't used to it

>>94937414
I used to take my GBA SP and even my nintendo DS everywhere.

Didn't give a shit. That stopped being a thing after a while for various reasons not related to how self conscious I was.

>>94935030
cutfag here but I genuinely think its very strange that its perfectly ok to mod male babies but modding female babies is like some crime against humanity

>>94937424
Like what?

I used to have pretty thick calluses during the summer. Always looked forward to the summer both then and now.

>>94935030
Crazy were supposedly so civilised yet baby genital mutilation is still a common practice

>>94937466
doesn't ''modding'' female babies increase probability of birth complications tho? At least more then it does to men?

>>94937426
real talk there was a very fat girl in school who sat down in one of those and it collapsed around her like a clam shell closing up
this was shortly after the scene that took place in gym class when we had to do pull ups and she broke the bar off the wall when she hung from it

>>94937416
>>94937426
>the Hambeast squeeze
>the Stacy stretch

>>94937490
Did you massage your feet when they were sore?

>>94937494
This.

>>94937466
"it's only barbaric when other cultures do it"
Germany recently tried to make non-medical circumcision illegal but the jewish community objected to it.
they even played the holocaust card believe it or not.

Other forms of male "modding" is not okay because it's foregin.
For example, look up "supercision".
It's genital mutilation where you cut a hole underside the penis to the urethra, so you have two holes.
Some tribes go even further, basically splitting the penis in half down the middle.

>>94937466
they are both unacceptable, but the thing that happens to the girl babies is much worse

>>94936767
In my experience it's the Europeans (excluding the italians) and Indians who have poor hygiene.

>>94937519
Not really? They never got that sore. There were a couple times I banged my pinky toes. Completely lost both my pinky toenails so they never grew back right. To this day they don't look the same.

>>94937541
>go to doctor to have your penis supercized
>cuts it in half

>>94937565
Are your feet ticklish?

>>94937546
Only because they're girls

>>94937586
Yeah, actually. Used to think that was an everybody thing though.

>>94937466
Female circumcision is basically like chopping the head off a dick.

I mean I think both are awful things to do to someone, but there's a reason people find female circumcision more horrifying.

>>94937603
Thanks for talking with me, I came buckets.

>>94937560
>Europeans (excluding the italians

Then where does the greasy WOP stereotype come from?

>>94937606
Female genital mutilation in it's most common form is completely analogous to male genital mutilation.

>>94935694
Wait, which state has laws against peeing with a foreskin on?

>>94937466
>>94937546

Actually, removal of the clitoral hood (the most comparable FGM equivalent to what is typically done for male circumcision; obviously modification of the vulva is a far more invasive procedure) involves the removal of far less sensitive tissue (both in terms of actual sensitivity and total tissue removed). Even the most basic form of FGM (pricking the clitoris with a pin, but not removing any tissue) is illegal, as it should be.

>>94937625
Americans of italian descent.

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>>94937639
> State of myself...
Shet, i'm not native english speaker but you... lel

>>94935694
>I born with a large foreskin in my penis, i can't pee in that state
Did you not think about rolling the foreskin back before you pee?

>>94937678
It's too large to perform that before...

>>94937639
Arkansas. Don't ask how I know that.

>>94935643
>20-80%
Did you seriously post this lol

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>>94935541

>>94935965
>pro-choice
So a circumcision is a late term abortion now? All those cut-fags got aborted?

>>94937698
>Guy had a foreskin longer than his penis
>So long that it would accumulate thickly around his penis long before his head got close enough to the opening for the pee to come out
Holy fuck! Should've gone on the Guiness world of records o made really weird fetish porn. Could've been rich! Or famous!

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>>94937541
>>94937581
>Welcome to McDoctors, how would you like your penis. Regular or Supercized?

>>94936054
superman's dick looks like an elephant trunk but it has pincers instead of tusks 'to hold onto you'

Another thread hijacked by geopolitical discourse. How long is this going to go on befits the mods step on?

>>94937283
Walking barefoot on gravel is nothing you fucking pussy

>>94937625
that's not a poor hygiene thing. Italian americans really are just greasy people, we secrete a lot of oil. Doesn't matter if you shower in the morning, by the afternoon you could be squeezed, bottled, and put into a salad dressing.

my theory on the matter? it's the new york climate. Unlike italy which is moist in the winter and dry in the summer, new york is the exact opposite, the dry winter air makes your skin crack, and the summers are oppressively humid.
The grease is a secretion the body is producing because it hasn't evolved in that climate and its doing what it can to quite literally protect it's skin

>>94937840
I wouldn't exactly call circumcision ''geopolitical''.

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>>94937840
>Another thread BITES ZA DUSTO

>>94937866
True but I think the point still stands

>>94937840
Until someone starts dumping colored horses or porn.

>>94937773

The Pro-Choice argument is typically one rooted in a woman's right to bodily integrity/autonomy. Apparently that doesn't apply to infant males. Whatever your views on circumcision, outside of cases where the life or health of the child is imminently threatened, it is difficult to justify not giving a person the opportunity to choose for themselves whether or not to have cosmetic surgery done on their genitalia. Even in those cases, removal of the foreskin in totality is an extreme and often unwarranted measure when less drastic surgical options exist.

>>94938003
Right. Even in the sub-Saharan African countries in red in >>94935643 circumcision is typically a rite of passage into adulthood - Of course almost all the boys will choose to do it because it's part of their culture, but at least they understand what's going on. What makes Jews and Muslims think their kids wouldn't do the same and choose to be circumcised because it's their religion if they allowed them the choice when they reached adolescence?

Of course for non-Jewish or Muslim Americans to do it "because the doctor who stands to make some shekels from it told me to" it's pretty inexcusable.

>>94937283
I mean fine it's easier
guys acting like it's impossible to ejaculate are kind of overstating it

>>94938151
it's fine but circumcised men are 4 times more likely to need erectile dysfunction medication

>>94935541
Dude, you don't have to be an antiSJW to believe that maybe we shouldn't cut babies genitals up for no good reason. Yeah it keeps the penis cleaner but you can do that with fucking soap and teaching your kid some basic fucking hygiene. I mean, we stopped cutting off girls clits over here, why the fuck would we keep cutting up the boys junk? It's not even a jew thing since so many christian and non-religious families still do it over here.

>>94935541
Not even /pol/ dude, circumcision is fucked up. I'm pretty sure liberals are against it

>>94935541
You don't have to be /pol/ to think circumcision is terrible

>>94935741
criminally underrated

>>94935578
you do know the only reason it was brought back in america was because the dude who invented kellog's cereal wanted to prevent masturbation

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>>94936054

>>94937821

that's canon btw

>>94935511
Eh. I can still get my dick wet, that's all that really matters.

>>94936294
>Thankfully, recently circumcision has been dying down in this country due to more availability to medical information, secularist ideals, and increased surgery costs giving parents less incentives to do it to their infants.
You means thanks to spics overtaking the statistics

>>94938550
You've never felt the true sensation of dick wettingness. And never will.

>>94935511
My mother had it done to me at 7 so I had a few years with my cock intact, an I cab tell you just playing with my uncut dick is still better then all the sex I've had cut.

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If the foreskin is on the knob...
Then where is the backskin?

My father taught me 'the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.'

Don't know if I could carry out the executions myself.

Perhaps one day when the pigmen roam free it will be stopped. Until then, off with their heads!

>>94936787
I'm cut and I've never used or needed lotion.

>>94935578
So, it's true, Americans have terrible hygiene?

Do you take the same attitude to your mouth and ass cracks? Do you all have phymosis? You should know that phymosis can be cured by a few weeks of stretching the skin.

>>94938870
8 in 10 Americans don't bathe or shower.

>>94935511
I don't feel particularly victimized.

>>94938870
>circumcision thread
>there are always Americans who say they got cut because they had phimosis
I can guarantee most of you didn't. EVERYONE with a foreskin has a hard time retracting it at first, that's perfectly normal:
https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Development-of-Retractile-foreskin-Portrait-format.pdf
>Almost all boys are born with the foreskin fused with the underlying glans penis. Most also have narrow foreskin that cannot retract. Nonretractile foreskin is normal at birth and remains common until after late puberty (age 18)
Just another reason to oppose cutting it off as a baby - The glans is literally not SUPPOSED to be uncovered until it separates from the foreskin around puberty when you start wanking it.

>>94935511
I wish I was cut fuck having to pull back my mushroom head every time I pee

>>94935030
I thought the joke was that he thought his dick was the umbilical cord, not that he was circumcised

>>94936216
its not a religious thing for 90% of cut fags the (((doctor))) just offered to do it after they cut the chord

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>>94937788
>>94937698
seriously, what the fuck. you missed out.

I was circumcised about age six. Not particularly phased by what this means in terms of supposed impediments on sexual attractiveness or performance, because I'm a wizard in training.

>>94938596
american spics are mostly catholics. catholics are all cutfags

>>94939240
Wat. I don't know what sort of "Catholics" you have over there because this is not the case at all in Europe.

>>94939278
Catholics with a lot of Jewish traditions, apparently.

>>94935578
>American
>Women

Hmm, so the lowest class of the lowest class? Also, this is not a debate, dude, the fact of the matter is that you were circumcised and had no say in it and now you are pissed, understandably so. Some girls like it cut, some like it uncut, but one or the other is probably not a deal breaker, and if a girl is only with you because of your penis, you should probably have the intelligence to get with a woman who can appreciate you for not just your penis. You do you, my man, you have my pity, and I only pray that you think twice before circumcising you children, if you ever have any.

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>>94939278
Catholic spic here. I was not circumcised because my Dad did not want me to look like a jew.

My Mom and Dad were both lawyers though and I guess a less educated spic might just do what the doctor recommends and get their kid cut

>>94939360
Also a Catholic spic, and I'm uncut. Not sure why, but likely because my dad was uncut and they were poor as shit and couldn't afford to tip a doctor 500 shekels.

>>94938741
The shaft?

>>94939360
>>94939536
Show us your penises or else you're just liars.

>>94935682
Yeah, because now we get to have a big fucking circle jerk about circumcision instead!

Literally the only reason circumcision is so widely argued about is because of people's superiority complexes.
Why do you think the word "mutilate" has been used 16 times in this thread? Because people want you to feel bad for not having a flap of skin on your cock. Nobody's life is worse off whether they have foreskin or not, it's as inconsequential as your appendix or your coccyx.

>>94939764

>Nobody's life is worse off whether they have foreskin or not

You sure you want to stand by that absolute?

>>94939764
>having 20,000 nerves removed from the most sensitive part of your body is inconsequential
>needing external lubricate to masturbate when your natural state doesn't require this is inconsequential
>never being able to feel full sexual pleasure is inconsequential
>tying newborn children fresh out of the womb to a table and slicing their genitals is inconsequential

I can say with absolute certainty that the world would be a better place with you dead.

>>94936035
>Most of all, the difficulty in talking about male circumcision is that you need to frame the conversation in a way that doesn't make it seem like you're attacking the victim of it, which immediately puts them on the defensive going forward.

I don't see cutfags act like that at all in these threads, it's mostly the other side that dump statistics and rant about their "moral crusade". They're a lot more sensitive about this topic, no pun intended.

When it comes down to it it's pretty simple. Cutfags don't know what they're missing because they can't remember it. Not only that but they see it as a console wars type of thing rather than an actual human rights thing. Unfortunately they can't change sides because, being cut-fags, there's no going back.

Even if you buy the absolute delusional beliefs like "genital mutilation has health benefits" or "women prefer how it looks", there is absolutely NO way to excuse doing it to children without their consent. Even if you are stupid enough to think genital mutilation is acceptable, it should be a choice made by an adult, not forced on children.

>>94939846
>They see it as a console wars type of thing rather than an actual human rights thing.
This is the biggest issue.

>>94939823

I'm not just talking about in 4chan threads, I'm talking about the real world. Although I've seen plenty of people get defensive here as well (not necessarily in this thread).

>>94938614
You've felt it for sure, inside your anus that is

>>94939881
But don't you see? They have to. If they admit otherwise they can be made to feel like less of a man and they won't accept that.

>>94937283
>Not able to walk on gravel

You sucked too much dick anon how about cutting it down and actually man up.

See, why can't comics be as fun and interesting as this thread? Real talk.

>>94935487
Too real.

>>94939923

See, that's the way of framing the conversation that I mentioned above that doesn't actually help convince anyone of anything.

>>94939846
>>they see it as a console wars type of thing rather than an actual human rights thing
>the "human rights" side doesn't treat the other side like humans
>expects to be listened to

>>94939945
Bleeding-heart bullfuck isn't "fun"

>>94939823
>They're a lot more sensitive about this topic
Well, they literally have 100 brains worth of extra nerves in their foreskins, so it's understandable.

>>94935030
I did, I'm not circumcised, but I have a cousin who got it due to an infection.

>>94939764
The issue is not all circumcisions are done perfectly. When you snip off part of your body it could go wrong in so many ways, and as you grow, the damage could go unseen fifteen or twenty years. I got circumcised and had no problems until I hit the last growth spurt of my life. my dick got fucking huge, but the skin on it became stretched, gross and discolored. I asked my folks about it thinking I had a disease and that's when they explained circumcision. I think people should be able to get circumcised as adults or even teenagers when they have the capacity to decide that, be it for medical or cosmetic purposes, but jesus christ let people live their lives naturally before you start snipping parts off.

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>>94935541
it keeps happening

>>94938529
Post proof faggot

>>94940048
I presume you're against vaccines for the same reason, right? It's optional, some people claim health benefits, done to kids too young to consent, 99% of the time there's no issue, but then you get a freak reaction occasionally.

>>94940081
Vaccines don't mutilate your genitals, how the fuck can you compare getting a shot to having parts of your body forcibly removed?

>>94939988
It's not that we don't treat them as human, it's that we see them as having Stockholm syndrome.

>>94940128
>he says with a straight face, convinced that he's not belittling them in any way

>>94937002
>>94937708
>it's not exactly helpful having a category that covers 60% of the results
it does, depending on the data you have and the study you are trying to make. The map actually makes a point clear: countries like latin america and yurop have virtually no circumcision, USA, australia and canada have some circumcision and almost all males in arabia and africa are circumcised, it has a purpose and really serves it, specially if the 20%-80% countries vary a lot between each other so that having scales of 20% only would make the map too colorful and less appealing to read for very little reason concerning this particular argument.

>>94940106
He's an idiot.

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>>94936787
is it? that's the religious reason?

is it that different either way?
the closest thing I can relate it too right now is babies also getting their ears pierced

>>94935741
If there were one man I could go back in time and murder it would be Kellog.

Thanks for being educated anon.

>>94940158
I suppose that's fair. How could I do better in the future?

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>>94935825
t. hasn't been here for over 4 years

>>94939923
>being cut makes you less of a man

Then that makes every Taiwanese ladyboy more of a man than Bill Goldberg.

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>>94940081

>Getting a shot is equivalent to undergoing irreversible surgery.

>>94935852
But the jews do it.

>>94940173

Apparently in the past religions were content to only snip off the tip of the foreskin for reasons of fertility or something, but for some reason they got greedier and more extreme over time.

>>94940193
Realize that circumcised adults have no personal stake in the issue.
Don't use the word "mutilate." It's basically saying you think someone is less of a person for not having foreskin.
Make it about the choice itself, not the surgery that the choice is applied to.

>>94935741
>>94936294
lol if you're getting off to unhealthy, immoral PIV and masturbation instead of yogurt enemas

>>94940261
but you have to understand that word was chosen by the group mind to try to get the point across about how severe this is.

>>94940261

Why do you equate being mutilated with being seen as a "lesser human"?

>>94940261
Mutilation is the correct term when you're talking about forcibly removing and disfiguring body parts against someone's will or without their consent.

I don't think less of a person for being mutilated, I feel outraged that it happened and the fact that mutilation is done on a systemic level in modern society is sickening. If you yourself are a victim anon I don't think less of you at all. I will however think less of you if you decide to continue the cycle of abuse by mutilating your own children.

>>94940081
1% is a pretty big fucking number.

>>94935578
Most American women wouldn't know if a penis is circumcised or not when erect.

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>>94940261

>It's okay to call Female Genital Mutilation what it is.
>But you can't call Male Genital Mutilation what it is because that makes some people uncomfortable.

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I vaguely remember that I did

>>94940313
>>94940315
>>94940322
>>94940350
You might as well call circumcised people "crippled" if that's the case.

>>94940322
Here's the thing: "outrage" turns people off from your cause. Flamboyant passion is seen as obnoxious, no matter how justified it may be.

>>94936844
>>94937708
Think of the categories as "none", "some" and "all".

>>94940325

Approximately 100-200 babies die from complications during circumcisions on an annual basis in the US. Which, sure, when you look at how many people are born in the US annually isn't a lot, but it's pretty damn horrifying all the same, and somehow I doubt pointing that out would make the people whose babies died feel any better.

I'm still going to go out on a limb and say that that's probably a larger number than those that die because they failed to get circumcised. That also doesn't count the number of people that suffer from painful or debilitating circumcision-related complications later in life.

>>94940382
The truth is the truth, I don't care if I hurt peoples feelings with the truth, I don't care if people bury the heads in the sand when confronted with it.

>>94940382
So what, then, humans are just doomed to always fight unless they carefully skirt around each other's edges?

>>94940382

Do you consider the removal of the clitoral hood to be mutilation?

>>94940382
>You might as well call circumcised people "crippled" if that's the case.
And you wouldn't really be wrong.

>>94940346
This is true, especially if the dick is peeled back.

>>94940413
>Approximately 100-200 babies die from complications during circumcisions on an annual basis in the US
I don't want to believe this.

>>94935030
yes

>>94940415
>>94940434
So then yes, if circumcision is mutilation, then its victims are cripples, which means you see them as lesser beings even if you "respect" them.

>>94940422
We're doomed to always fight unless we show some tact and realize that nobody's obligated to agree with anyone.

>>94940449

It's typically due to infections.

>>94940495
I'm circumcised, I don't view myself as a lesser being. I simply have the fucking brain power to realize that what was done to me was wrong and that forced genital mutilation is wrong and evil. When I (hopefully) marry my girlfriend and we have kids, I know that if I have a son he'll be the first male in my family to not have his penis mutilated against his will.

>>94940495

Mutilation is not the same as being crippled, and it is fully possible to acknowledge that someone has been mutilated or crippled without being a god damn fucking Nazi and viewing them as untermensch, you fucking loony person.

>>94935747
>Most of the circumcisions of infant boys in the US happens on the behest of their mothers, based on their own sexual preferences. They believe that genital mutilation will benefit the women their son will eventually have sex with, regardless of the problems it may cause their child.

What in the world?
I thought it was for religious reasons.

At least the majority of people aren't circumcising their sons so that they'll lack feeling pleasure...right?

>>94940434
Well, yes and no. Imagine if babies routinely had their pinky fingers removed. You can live without pinky fingers and probably wouldn't really be able to tell the difference since they had never had pinky fingers. Someone like this may well argue that it's better not to have pinky fingers at all and it wouldn't be very difficult to convince them otherwise. In fact they may get offended at words like mutilation or cripple.

>>94940499
not them
I believe it but also find it hard to believe we can't even do a proper flesh removal surgery with no infection, yet we can do shit like amputations and brain surgery

>in a sterile environment
>with sterilization afterwards
>and constant check-ins
>with anti-boitics
>still get infected and die
??

>>94940520
>>94940521
So if a grown man decided to get his right hand surgically removed for no health benefit, would you respect his decision or would you think he's a retard for willingly crippling himself?
Note that I'm not talking about infants with no choice, I'm talking specifically about an adult making his own choice.

>>94940520
As a fellow circumcised human being I whole heartedly agree with this sentiment. Although I don't see being mutilated to mean I'm necisarily crippled. If someone got their face burned you wouldn't call them crippled.

lmao @ all these fags with absolutely disgusting uncut dicks xD

>>94940580
I would think he's a retard and respect his decision too. It's his life why do I care? People smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, pierce their bodies, get surgery etc. Adults can make those kinds of decisions for themselves, even if they're more extreme than normal.

I don't think an adult choosing to get circumcised is wrong. I DO think that strapping a newborn infant to a table and forcibly removing a portion of his penis IS wrong. Why can't you fucking see the difference?

>>94940413
Except that isn't true at all you fucking retard

>Tfw circumcised at birth
>Not Jewish

Literally what were my parents thinking?

>>94940580

I fail to see how that's relevant to not wanting infants to be mutilated without informed consent. Of course I'll think he's a fucking retard, just like I think that woman that had bleach poured in her eyes because she "dreamed of being blind" was retarded and probably suffering from some kind of mental disorder that was fed into by a sympathetic psychologist.

I feel like it falls more under the category of tattoos and piercings. I can totally picture someone haveing a circumcised fetish just like someone can hae a tattoo fetish.

>>94940580
Except uncut dicks are better, so its not so much removing one's hand as much as giving one another!

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>>94940495
A mutilated person is not necessarily a cripple, but you should be fucking ashamed of calling cripples lesser beings.

>>94935541
is this the new barneyfag

>>94935578
>women
I only go for the QTest of fembois fampai

>>94940715
I'd love to hear more about how and why they are better. Please explain to me in great detail.

>>94940640
>>94940680
>>94940715
I'm not trying to defend doing to it babies. I'm trying to explain why circumcised adults don't like to be called mutilated.

>>94940739
I'm not calling them lesser beings. I just refuse to use the "mutilation" argument.

>>94940793

Most circumcised adults didn't consent to being circumcised.

>>94940793

What's your answer to this question?

>>94940430

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>tfw cut
>tfw really don't give a shit

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/18/babies-herpes-circumcision-risk/579557001/

>>94940793
Alright, fine. We'll do it the way it was done to keep it from being offensive to call retards retarded. They are "foreskin challenged".

>>94940886
Probably yeah, but I'm tactful enough to not tell a chick who's had their clit removed that they were "mutilated"

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>>94940919
that's because your indoctrinated

>>94940939

So your entire problem just with the word mutilation? Should FGM just be called Female Circumcision?

>>94940949
>you were indoctrinated to not give a shit about dick skin

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>>94940949
Or I just can't really be bothered to care. There are plenty of things in my life to pissed about. This really ain't one of 'em.

>>94939278
What are you talking about? Latin America is mostly Catholic and circumcision is very rare there.

>>94940923
Paul Giamotti?

A circumcised dick is honestly terrifying. With how your skin moves up and down and you see pinkish layer of it.

>>94940938
Just say "they had their foreskin cut off without consent." That's about as objective as you can get. Anyone who's legitimately concerned about the issue can put two and two together, you don't have to hammer it into their skulls by being as blunt as possible.

>>94940976
Some people already do call it that. The word "mutilation" is used specifically to be as sensationalist as possible, not out of respect for the victims themselves.

>>94941069

What about someone who feels that they themselves were mutilated?

>>94940949
Indoctrinated into what? Not caring that you can't imitate an elephant's trunk?

>>94940078
>>94938518

>>94941099
Then that's their own temperament. Doesn't mean they should push that temperament onto other people. Just like people shouldn't circumcise their babies without their consent funny coinkydink

>>94941069
>"they had their foreskin cut off without consent."
I'm keeping this

>>94941221
Be my guest.

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>>94941196

>Forcing surgery on a baby that can't consent is just like forcing an opinion on someone else that doesn't agree with you.

>>94941069

Alternatively, they use the term because their ultimate objective is to have Male Circumcision legally reclassified in the same way as FGM.

>>94940261
As a circumcised man I fully agree with using the word "mutilate", and you're a fucking faggot.
>>94940382
>Being mutilated is the same as being crippled
I got the tip of my dick chopped off, I was mutilated. I'm not crippled. People use the word mutilated to be sensationalist, yeah, but it's not exactly an exaggeration. A part of your body was forcibly removed. Your body no longer looks the same as a result. Mutilation, disfigurement, these are words that are not only appropriate but also accurate for some people.

>>94941069
>>94941196
"Mutilation" is a completely accurate and objective description of the issue, you fucking retard.

>>94940261
>Circumcised adults have no personal stake in the issue of circumcision
>You should never do anything for the betterment of others. If you've already been affected, the damage is done, move on
You're an awful person anon.

>>94941302
Being disagreed with is LITERALLY the worst thing that can happen to you if you're /pol/

If other babies can talk right after being born then explain Dil.

>>94941439
>if you're tumblr

>>94941440
Dil was dropped on his head at a young age.

>>94941371
>>94941414
I don't agree with using sensationalism to accomplish social change. I don't agree with using terms like mutilation for the sake of martyring.

>>94941529
But I, as a man who was circumcised as a baby, look at my penis and see something that was legitimately mutilated. Mutilation being defined as inflicting serious damage on something. A part of my penis was PERMANENTLY removed. How is that NOT serious damage?

>>94941529

Do you believe most social change has been accomplished by dancing around semantics so as not to cause anyone discomfort?

>>94935030
>tfw umbilical still intact

How does it feel being less of a human being?

As a religious man, I find myself offended by this thread

>>94941638
why

>>94941529
You don't agree with using the term "mutilation" to describe mutilation? Kill yourself soon.

>>94941563
That's your own position and your own insecurity.
Many people who are circumcised don't like to be called mutilated because they don't feel like they've been damaged in any way.
That's why I believe that anti-circumcision arguments should focus strictly on the consent, not the "mutilation." Because that's the single most objective matter. People can decide for themselves that they don't feel violated for being circumcised, but they CAN'T say "I made the choice to be circumcised."

>>94941591
Well obviously the current modus operandi isn't working, otherwise circumcision might have been outlawed by now.

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>>94935747
>often done with no aesthetics
They don't even play some vaporwave when chopping off your foreskin? Fucking barbarians.

>>94941694
What brilliant tact you're displaying.

I thought this was going to be a "jokes you didn't get as a kid" thread, but instead I got a bunch of arguing about circumcision. Why would you guys want to talk about that here?

Uncircumcised dicks are fucking disgusting. I wish everyone single person with a dick who didn't get circumcised was fucking put to sleep. So fucking gross.

You're too late in the thread for bait this stale. I'm not even gonna give you a token (you).

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>cutfags literally have no idea what they are missing yet, they defend it.

>>94935511
>>94935541
"At least I be in the room when they circumsize your child"
That's what my dad was told after arguing with his co-worker about my little brother getting circumcised. My dad thought about it a long time, and that's why he decided against it. Have you ever seen a child get circumcised? The pain, fear, blood and screaming is horrid. The baby goes into defense mechanisms because this means it must have been left on it's own and is being attacked. My mom's a nurse and she had to experience that a million times. The baby is in pain, they just cut it straight.
When my brother was an adult he made his own decision to get cut because he liked the look better. A Grown adult can make that decision in the same way they can make the decision to get tattoos.
I want you to be in the room when they mutilate your child.

>>94941709
Mate, you're the one who won't call a spade a spade out of insecurity.

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>it's better to be cut because American women prefer it like that because it's all they know since they have their infant sons cut due to their own sexual preferences

Loving this circular logic.

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>>94935578
And I'm certain that a lot of men would prefer if women had neat labia but that sure as hell isn't a good reason to mutilate little girls at birth is it you senseless idiot, Jesus, cut fags are some of the most irrational people out there.
If you are pro circumcision you don't have enough sense and knowledge on the issue and need to get your head straight.
>but forcing cosmetic surgery on newborns is my religious/parental/cultural right
>but it makes hygiene slightly easier
and other retard alert arguments.
Would you be okay with a labia circumcision on girls at birth? No, that's how you know you've got no damn sense in your head and are only going on pure autopilot.
On top of that nothing stops a boy when he's grown to opt in for circumcision once they are old enough to decide for themselves.
There is like zero fucking reason to practice circumcision on newborns other than simply not giving them the choice and making sure they are too young to remember hence less aware.
I'm not even mentioning the full on botched circumcisions that ruin the boys whole life and how the hospitals profit from the procedure and the flesh of the babies.
In summary if you are pro circumcision you are a grade A ignorant sucker.

>>94935541
>not-circumcision
>fuck off /pol/
this is what americucks truly think

Do you guys realise over there that it's not like, a standard thing, to get your dick cut up? Hardly anyone in England has it.

>>94935965
Reverse the order of your list. Then you're spot on.

>>94936032
What kind of circumcision do you yanks get?
I can have sex just fine without any unpleasant feeling

>>94941963
Cut vs. Uncut is a huuuuuuge thing on this website. Every board has some version of this argument at least once.

>>94942877
Oh you poor misguided soul :(

You have absolutely no idea what you're missing sweetie. You cannot possibly CONCEIVE the vast constellation of sexual pleasure derived from my intact foreskin.

Thankfully, whether you want me to or not, I'll never stop fighting the good fight. You're lucky to have me.

>>94939065
Underrated post

>>94936787
That doesn't make any sense, you don't need lotion.

>>94942362
>thinking it makes any difference

>>94942974
Are you inviting me for some steamy-hot penis fiddling anon?
Because it wouldn't be the first time i get a dick in my bum.

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>>94940259
still, is it really worth getting so worked up? not taking sides here, just everyone seems a bit melodramatic. people seem to function just the same and some even prefer being cut
so, assuming it's done right, how is this different from baby peircing?

>>94935541
>/pol/
It's pretty common knowledge that circumcision is one of the worst things you can do to man. You will never get to experience the pleasures those of us with foreskin experience. But hey, at least you will be more concerned with making money over getting pleasure.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>94936054
Do you really want someone to post the Kryptofuck greentext, anon?

>>94938518
Sejic is always a riot.

What a garbage thread.

>>94943105

>still, is it really worth getting so worked up?

Is it worth getting worked up over Female Circumcision?

the problem is this, Anons: You are faggots. You've always been faggots, you'll always be faggots. Now, there is nothing wrong with this as a general principle but complications arise with an extra variable - you're also cunts.

This combination is so distasteful to me that if I can distance myself as much as possible from you I feel a little better about life. Now, it's bad enough I have to share the internet with you so it seems the least I can do is not be like you in any capacity and that, sadly, means I can't do any of the things you do including protest against circumcision.

The net result is, yes, while I have the guilt of not being able to prevent babies from receiving non-consensual circumcision, I do get to live out the rest of my days knowing that I am little like you as humanly possible.

>>94941709
>Insecurity
>Some people who were circumcised don't feel like they were mutilated so nobody should say it so we don't hurt their feelings look how good of a person I am
Literally tumblr

>>94943450
is it really something you can compare?
if it were some excess outer labia skin also as a baby for a similar purpose then sure?

>>94943630
Hate to break it to you, but "fee-fees" are what the world revolves around nowadays. You would know that if you've ever had any real influence over anyone in your life.

>>94943661
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>>94937642

I'm a cutfag who thinks circumcision is something that should be stopped but I never got why this is topic that drives 4chan crazy any time it's mentioned. Maybe masturbating feels like God is giving your little buddy a nice stroking compared to cut masturbation but I doubt it.

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>>94943714
I'm convinced now that I've fallen for an elaborate bait

>>94939881
I agree but no one should consent to it anyway, unless there's actual health risks that require circumcision but I'm not aware of any of those.
Having it done as an adult is worse than as a baby;

>>94943854

The topic is a minefield because both sides have such irresistible reasons for caring.

The cutfags feel like they have to prove that there's nothing wrong with their dick and get super defensive about it.

The uncutfags, who generally are from Europe and dislike Americans by default, enjoy any opportunity to let the yanks know how uncivilized they are. The fact that circumcision is primarily a Jewish and Muslim thing makes it extra fun to bring up on 4chan, where a lot of people are /pol/-tards and hate those groups.

>>94935624
>Because it was supposed to be my passage to adulthood.
Are you muslim? Heard a similar story from a muslim guy in the UK. Everyone in his family was watching a apparently.

>>94943897
I believe that is called life sir

>>94943854
Same reason manlets are a touchy subject.

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>>94938518
Well, that certainly bites.

>>94944134
>tfw a manlet and cutfag
it's weird being a 3rd class citizen

>>94935541
Not even /pol/, but circumcision isn't cool. Why do americans continue to enforce it when other countries ban it.

>>94944294

Cultural inertia, religious influence, and money (both from performing the procedure and the cosmetics industry).

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>>94936168

>>94935511
>>94935541
This kills the thread.

>>94936054
>Normal
>Uncircumcised

Sorry anon, gotta pick one

>>94945214

Being physically intact is normal for every species on the planet.

I'm Amerifat but my parents are Britbong so I'm happy to say they spared my dick.

>>94935965
You dumb nigger, babies aren't even people until at least a couple years old. They have no consent to give. Especially if you require two dedicated parents in order to live.

>>94945329

>They have no consent to give.

Hence why they should be allowed to grow old enough to be able to provide informed consent.

Were you attempting to make a point?

>>94945214
Humans are not normal. We have never been normal. We are borderline no longer 'natural' anymore.

>>94945373
So it's the parent's choice. It's not even debatable. Should we wait to give kids names that they choose?

>>94936884

>not fapping with head and shoulders

if you really want to have fun try fapping a few hours after cutting up habanero peppers bare handed

I'm not Jewish, but I was circumcised. My parents told me it was a sanitation thing. I dunno. I've never felt like I had any trouble getting my rocks off, so.

Maybe you guys are arguing about something else and just using this as a pretense. Food for thought.

>>94945390
Yo can change your name as an adult. You can't get your foreskin back.

Would you be okay with parents giving babies facial tattoos of their favourite bands?

>>94945390
People have the ability to change their name later in life
It's not an irreversible change to their body

>>94945434
If my kid can't know that the Rolling Stones are the greatest band of all time every time he looks in the mirror, why even have a fucking kid.

>>94945390

You are aware that you can change your name, right?

One is permanent. The other is not.

>>94945418
>Maybe you guys are arguing about something else and just using this as a pretense. Food for thought.
Really makes you think.