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CUTE edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Doctor Aphra Annual #1 (Aug 23)

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7GAhnVwhA

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Behind the Scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye6GCY_vqYk

>Battlefront 2 - Behind the Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pryBP4K-_34

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Star Wars: Forces of Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpSnlSGciSWNBXSxZZrsvWdnoGsLCr6WL

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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Reminder
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>Maz apparently introduces the resistance to DJ. She helps the Resistance by pointing them toward a “mysterious new ally”. Maz has been forced to become more mobile and take more of a role in the criminal underworld.
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Which version is canon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRA7-jA5GJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHCyDxxXog4
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master race
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>>94916325
>someone had to animate that
>they didn't delete this scene for the BD
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>>94916325
Still better than TFA
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DARK GREETINGS
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look at my FN-2187
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>>94916544
Japan makes everything better
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Snoke?
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>Snoke is an ancient evil. The first dark side user and far more powerful than any other sith (this includes palpatine)
>Rey is the first light side user and the most powerful jedi of all time

Now that this has been confirmed do you like Snoke and Rey more?

Sure Snoke still looks goofy with that golden robe but he's the most powerful villain in star wars history and Rey is no longer a mary sue
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>prequels have a few short scenes about the politics of the galactic republic, used to create a world and a context for what happens in the movies
>brainlets get upset because it takes time away from the action
years later
>jewsney buys star wars
>makes an ANH remake
>shameless pandering to OT nostalgiafags
>ZERO exposition and world-building
>relies on the cheapest of the cheap to establish villains and a conflict (lol these guys are space nazis and this guy talks like hitler xDDDD)

I hope you're happy with what you got, Plinkettdrones.
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REMINDER: REY is the best waifu in the galaxy.
Woman is God's greatest creation. Post those Rey's now.
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>>94916705
Confirmed where?
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>>94916729
>I didn't watch Rogue One, the post
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man that part in TPM where Anakin leaves Shmi breaks my heart every single time

I don't care what you think of the rest of the movie but that is a good-ass scene
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>>94916756
>REY is the best waifu in the galaxy.
no

>>94916705
>Now that this has been confirmed do you like Snoke and Rey more?
only Snoke because I like the Snoke is Darth plagueis theory.

Rey is a still no
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>>94916838
Did the Tusken rape Anakin's mother? Did Palpatine do it?
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This is the CUTE edition. Post CUTE you nerf herders
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>>94916325
the one mistake george ever made
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>>94917003
The one that sold SW.

>>94916884
Rey is the best waifu! Post big tities Rey!
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>>94916884
Kleio is a national treasure.
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>>94916729
Low effort post.
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Luke get's the shit planet and his sister get's the better one.
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>>94916884
oh hey, that's the talon who did the porno, that was pretty hot
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tfw no profundity edition :(
then again it's not my birthday any more
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>>94917090
lel what is this shit
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>>94917261
Good it's an ugly ship
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>>94917288
t. Fractalsponge
there's a reason you don't work at lucasfilm
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>r/starwarsleaks is down

RIP
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>Mfw,no sexy Rey posts :(
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>>94917320
>r/
and nothing of value was lost
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>>94917327
You know that Daisy Ridley has no tits or ass at all,right?
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>>94917288
Nah, this is an ugly ship >>94917295
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>>94917346
Wasn't she naked in a tv series?
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>>94917477
Yeah,she was playing a corpse in Silent Witness.
I still wonder how she got the role for TFA...
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>>94917573
cause she looks like rey's father and grandmother
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>>94917334
much better source of news than this dumping ground
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>Mfw that moment when a porn actress is acting better than Daisy Ridley in Star Wars
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>>94917295
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>>94917690
I call it bullshit.
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>be in Star Wars thread
>two or three guys cannot stop talking about how much they hate Rey even though nobody brought her up
Why don't you incels talk about something you DO like
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>>94917723
But it's true,Stella Cox did a better job as Rey than Daisy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZAxHrI_fo
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>>94917727
I like Rey
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>>94917808
Is this the extended scene? I like it.


>>94917727
I love Rey's look.
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>>94917727
It's mostly that reylo shitposter who won't fucking get the hint that it's not funny
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>>>>94917727
I like star wars aftermath and twilight company it's in audiobook
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>>94917849
Actually no. The Reylo poster was banned.
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>>94917864
>reylo poster was banned
you do know how easy it is to evade that right
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>>94917808
Wow,this scene is actually smart.
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>>94917876
N-No...I don't know...is there a way to learn this power?
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lemme axe you somethin
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>>94918067
it's the same but different

£25 now
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>>94917808
You just gave me a reason to live! Post Rey!
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>>94917090
Wait. I recognize this art style. Its that one guy who draws all that goddamn star wars porn.
What the hell is this?
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>>94918155
>complaining about trooper variants
kys my guy
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>>94918205
Can you post more...?
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>>94917705
want more
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>>94918205
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>>94917900
not from a shitposter
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>Silencer has Falcon engines
based Rian bringing the pottery
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>>94918205
he's a good artist his name Shabby Blue

>What the hell is this?
it's star wars what if?
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>>94918245
Well, most of it is shit like this.
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>>94918522
I need a source for scientific purposes
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>>94918545
all the Shabby Blue

https://e-hentai.org/tag/artist:shabby+blue
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>>94918572
>Rey and Chewie
I regret this
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>>94918545
Eat your fuckin heart out man

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=shabby_blue&pid=294
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>>94918485
>tfw no ILM minions to provide me with 3-d printed models of star wars ships they're creating
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>>94918586
you can't unsee this

one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us,
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first for "Rey Palpatine"
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>>94918586
>>94918622
There is no going back
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>>94918597
jesus christ
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>>94918690
>>94918687
god is dead
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>>94918511
>Yoda purposefully making Dagobah cold with the force
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>>94916705
Source?
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>>94918863
>>Yoda purposefully giving her tight clothes
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>MFW there are people who think it's a bad thing the Jedi Order is at its final end
The Sith and Jedi need to go, and make way for new paths to understand the Force. I'm certain we'll get better stories post sequels without any more Jedi to hog all the spotlights.
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>>94919039
people think Disney will give up the Jedi and Sith thing

to be young
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>>94918247
for ants
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edgy lord mary sue
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>>94919573
and mercifully non-canon
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>>94916432
master reys
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>>94919673
thank god
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>>94919573
And people think George was wrong to suggest names like "Darth Icky" for this guy. Clearly he was insulting whoever created this character
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>>94919743
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>>94919770
and fanboys defend this
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>>94919743
"Rey" more like "Pley with that pussy"
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>>94917808
>>94917848
>>94917884
>>94918181
Hey, Stella Cox poster from the previous thread. I apologize in advance if this becomes a meme.
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>>94919900
Defend what? Lucas not taking a mary sue like Starkiller seriously? You don't have to be a fanboy to agree with him on that. There are plenty of things I don't like that Lucas has done, but insulting people who made a shitty game with a terrible protagonist isn't one of them
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Why were there walkers on an ocean beach planet?
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>>94920055
because 50 foot long legs can traverse the sea floor better while carrying super heavy loads than wheeled vehicles, hovercraft, or deep-draft boats
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>>94920055
I doubt they ever really thought anyone would attack Scariff seriously, considering no one has any idea and was so blind they couldn't even DEPLOY THE GARRISON
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>>94916432
not Oola
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what if obi wan was a cute girl?
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>>94920231
Then Maul would be heterosexual.
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>>94919573
stupid faggot that doesn't know what it's talking about
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>>94920042
>Defend what? Lucas not taking a mary sue like Starkiller seriously?

NO no it the protagonist I only hate not Lucas or the people who made the game,

I've seen EU fanboys defend Starkiller and shit on new protagonists like Rey, sabine and Ezra.
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>>94920042
Fuck off you stupid cunt
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>>94920357
>>94920394
Alright, why is he not a gary stu who deserved to be nuked?
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>>94920454
Because he was a pawn the entire time and was friendly and had compassion and needed to kill himself just to scratch Sidious

So he was not a "edgy" Mary Sue
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>>94919039
Rey will figure out the force like she did with Millenium Falcon, and school Luke over it. Luke will be sad that he was such a pansy, and will lead the way for Rey to take the spotlight.
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>>94920511
After he dumpstered everyone including Vader, and got a few licks onto Sheev. Did you play the second game? Where he dumpsters him again? Face it, he has all the personality of a cardboard box, and his super speshul 'i'm a clone!!' is stupid.
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>>94916705

TCW already did this

I bet the Mortis arc will be better too
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>>94920511
Bro the entire backstory of the OT had to be rewritten to allow him to show off how overpowered he was. Fuck off. TFU was a great fun game, but a quality piece of Star Wars storytelling it was not.
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>>94920517
Guaranteed to not happen. The Skywalkers are Lucasfilms sacred cows
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>>94917261

Quarren make better ships than Mon Calamari
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>>94920361
Ezra is a decent protagonist, but even Starkiller has more motivation than Rey.

I would have added Sabine too, but she actually has a reason to exist now.
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>>94920661

You naive child

I guarantee Rey will offer insight into the force and provide moral and logical statements that sway Luke; he'll be the student
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>>94920669
Providence class ships have a worse trend of splitting in half than Nebulon B frigates, you separatist slime.
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>>94920511
he killed 3 Jedi masters on his first missions

created the rebel movement, overpowered Vader and later almost killed the Emperor

"edgy" Mary Sue
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>>94920576
Dude that was a clone not the real SK
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>>94920773
Two knights and a master. The first knight he didn't even kill, and the master he didn't even kill.
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>>94920747
>implying Luke didn't plan all of this to teach Rey a lesson
She better be grateful. Over a decades worth of work went into this.
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>>94920231
/ss/ with Anakin
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>>94920747
she will say SOMETHING that gives Luke pause, but it's confirmed she gets her ass kicked multiple times in the film. hell it's even there in the trailer
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>>94920576
The second game was his clone also super not canon
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>>94920752

>Invisible Hand
>survives for hours in a massive fleet engagement with peer level ships
>gets an unlucky hit on some proton torpedoes

That doesn't take away from it.

Invincible had to kill itself; the Venators weren't getting through.

Providence-class
Recusant-class
Malevolence-class

Mon Calamari can't compete
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>>94920871
>>94920231
https://e-hentai.org/g/953098/86cf4e5808/
Lukes real mom

this is now canon
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>>94921010
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>>94920991
you forgot Trench's DREADNOUGHT (twice) the Provvie from the Tarkin book commanded by that loser republic deserter, and the Malevolence

meanwhile Nebulons and MC80s, for all their myriad appearances, rarely even die on screen at all, let alone split in half
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>>94921131
>>94920991
oh also Recusant class light destroyers are Commerce Guild destroyers, Gossam not Quarren
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>>94921010
jesus christ, what? why still draw him with a man face
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>>94921165
>jesus christ, what? why still draw him with a man face

she got off by being touch by Bail Organa
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I'm half way through the Rogue One novelization and:
>Jyn: Galen Erso is not my father, he's a coward, he's a bastard.
>Bohdi: I'm the pilot, I'm the Pilot, It wasn't supposed to happen yet, I'm sorry.
>The Family and the storm troopers who are killed in the explosion of Jedha.

I hate the Jyn inner voice.
I love Bohdi's insanity and sadness but no one gets his murmurs
I love the fucked stormtrooper "I'm really sorry" line
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>>94921557
>>the storm troopers who are killed in the explosion of Jedha.

I thought they pulled all troopers out of Jedha?
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> reading novelizations
get a hobby
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>>94921818
>reading isn't a hobby
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>>94921715
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>>94921715
>I'm a Sith Lord so I must be a tryhard edgelord, uh-huh no try again sweetie
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>>94916228
She's dead Jim.
>And new episodes when?
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>>94921825
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>>94921747
Only 97% of imperial forces. Acceptable losses.
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>>94921818
>shitposting on a chinese rocket booster repair forum
get a hobby
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>>94921891
>She's dead
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>>94921850
Does Rebels ever explain what happened to Count Dooku? Or was that in one of the unproduced Clone Wars episodes?
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>>94922014
Anon... Watch Revenge of the Sith...
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>>94922041
Which season was that in?
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>>94922041
>>94922053
I think he meant before the prequels. I'd be interested in a book about him and qui-gon
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>>94922053
>Palpatine is the Sith Lord!
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>>94922089
if he meant before the prequels then why did he ask if Rebels expanded on "what happened to [him]?"
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>>94922164
>Don't listen to him Anakin, help me!
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>>94922259
>I'm the real Sheev Palpatine!
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>>94922184
>unproduced clone wars episode
I took that as him meaning one of the episodes being a flashback or something. Though it is a pretty retarded question if he honestly was asking about the fate of the dook
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>>94922014
>tfw there may actually be people who got into Star Wars through TCW and actually wonder this

It's beautiful in a unholy way.
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>>94922053
I love this scene, the look on his face is perfect.

>What the hell man, I thought we were in this together!
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>>94922481
For a guy who has gone full blown dickish Sith, you think it'd be a more "Shit, I was supposed to be the one doing the betraying"
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>>94922501
Probably that too, but I guess he figured he'd at least make it through the Clone Wars.
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>>94922287
Even if he was asking if it expanded on Dooku's backstory, I'm not sure why he thought Rebels would do this. He's long-dead by the time of the show.
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Man, we really need to know more about Dooku
In AotC he seemed like he was still half-Jedi.
In TCW he was full on "Muhahahaha, I'm Count Drac- I mean Count Dooku!"
In RotS he's just plain dead

I'd love to see a TPM era Dooku story
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>>94921747
All the ones in the city, yes. They didn't pull the ones that were on foot patrols outside of it, assumedly looking for Saw.
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>>94922481
>>94922501
Given what we know about Dooku, I don't think it was a case of him never expecting Sheev to betray him. I think Dooku believed he was so indispensable to Sheev's plans (and that there was no one who could replace him) that he was safe from the usual Sith betrayal. So that was a double-whammy of "hah I don't need you anymore" and "by the way I actually did find someone better than you"
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>>94922767
Yeah, that's the impression I got from Dark Disciple.
>pfft he's all talk he ain't gonna do shit to me, bitch needs me, that gives me time to plan my own coup against him
>oh fuck
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>>94922656
>In AotC he seemed like he was still half-Jedi.

Nah, that's just the façade he tries to put on for Obi-Wan. And the galaxy at large, really. Not like the Separatist planets are gonna believe anything the Jedi have to say, especially when they were caught red-handed infiltrating and then invading a Separatist world. The end of the movie makes it clear that he's just a lapdog for Sidious.

But yeah, I would like more details on his fall. Whether he started out with good intentions or was always just a power-hungry asshole.
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>>94922813
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>tfw we'll never get a Dooku book because it wouldn't have been a TCW script re-purpose like Dark Disciple or relevant to the great canon building that's going on
If they actually made the neo-Confederacy a threat between Jakku and Bloodline, then a Dooku book could help set it up, I guess.
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>>94922860
How would the Confederacy ever comeback?
They were just Dookster's puppets.

And if they did, wouldn't they just be part of the Resistance/Rebels
I mean they always thought the Republic was an Empire

BTW, I think the Prequels/TCW missed a step by not having the Mon Calamari be a big part of the CIS
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>>94922850
Dooku put your dick away
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>>94922946
The worlds that joined the Confederacy actually believed in the cause. Very few were actually in the know that they were puppets, and less knew that the war was fabricated by Palpatine.
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>>94922999
Man, why is Rebels afraid of such full figures?
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>>94922946
>And if they did, wouldn't they just be part of the Resistance/Rebels
I don't know how many former Separatist groups would join the Rebel Alliance. I'm sure a lot did and we know there's former Separatists among them, but I think some may not like the idea of restoring the Republic.

I figure some of them may have worked with the rebels against a common enemy but afterward just kind of went "yeah nah you guys go have your republic we'll do our own thing peace"
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>>94923015
>The worlds that joined the Confederacy actually believed in the cause.
I wish we saw more of this in the movies/TCW
The movies made the CIS into such cartoon villains and, ironically, the cartoon tried its best to do the opposite but never really go anywhere
There was just that two parter about the CIS senate that was promptly forgotten about entirely.
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>>94923047
>I think some may not like the idea of restoring the Republic.
But TCW showed us that they had their own republic
The issue wasn't that republics are bad but rather that THE Republic was bad.

It makes sense that they'd want to be in on the ground floor of creating a new republic the way they wanted to
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>>94923053
>forgotten
At least it's popped up in new canon with Inferno Squad to a lesser degree
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So I've been on vacation for four days, what did I miss? (I know about the new vehicles already)
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>>94923083
This shot makes me dislike how long the bridge necks are on the Rebels SDs

>Whoa, hey guys, welcome to GalacticStop
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>>94923117
Nothing but distilled shitposting
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>>94923076
They didn't have their own republic, though. It was a confederacy. Some of them were cool with the idea of co-existing with the Republic but they still preferred to do things their own way with their own form of government. I could see them not being hostile towards a New Republic but also preferring to have their own New CIS. Except now with nobody starting shit between them they can be neighbors.
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great's father in star wars

prove me wrong
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>>94923141
But we literally see a Confederate Senate in that one episode with the "nice" separatist woman
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>>94922946
Palpatine had every Confederacy world under Empire control within a year or two after the war, and all the companies that made up the heads of the Confederacy were nationalized and completely integrated into the Empire.
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>>94922946
Apparently there is/was a comeback at some point. They haven't really elaborated on it, though.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/New_Separatist_Union

These guys may be related, too:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Confederacy_of_Corporate_Systems
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>>94923126
How long will people continue to bitch about Rebels McQuarrie-esque stylizating while giving TCW's Genndy wooden marionettes a free pass?
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>>94923190
>Palpatine had every Confederacy world under Empire control within a year or two after the war, and all the companies that made up the heads of the Confederacy were nationalized and completely integrated into the Empire.
So wouldn't the people of those worlds have more reason than anyone to join the Rebels?
That's why I think it'd be really cool if the Mon Calamari the only "Rebel alien" species to be a former CIS species
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>>94923246
If the Rebellion were filled with a bunch of ex-separatists, they'd hardly be viewed by even the most generous of idealists as genuine in their cause to restore the Republic.

Additionally, your Mon Cal stuff is totally ridiculous and based purely on extraneous EU throwaway lines insinuating that dissident Mon Cals allied with Quarren to produce Separatist ships, which has never been alluded to in canon.
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>>94923246
There's a heavy difference between "this world has an Imperial presence but supports the rebels," "this world has no Imperial presence but pretends to be Imperial while secretly aiding the rebels (Alderaan)," and "the Empire came full-force and devastated the planet to force the world to join the Empire." Yes, the latter would have more of a reason to fight against the Empire in the future, but they also know first hand what it's like to have the full wrath of the Empire crushing everything and everyone they know to dust.
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>>94923246
The Mon Cal weren't former CIS, though
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>>94923296
>If the Rebellion were filled with a bunch of ex-separatists, they'd hardly be viewed by even the most generous of idealists as genuine in their cause to restore the Republic.
But like I said, TCW showed us the Separatists had their own Republic.
And weren't there "Heroes on Both Sides"?
And wasn't the Republic ACTUALLY corrupt and pointless in the Prequels?

The MonCal would be "ahead of the game" rather than be opportunistic bastards.
And since we know the MonCals are good guys, having them be in the CIS would make the Prequels even more tragic
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>>94923323
>what it's like to have the full wrath of the Empire crushing everything and everyone they know to dust.
History has shown that places that experience this produce the most dedicated of rebels
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>>94923246
Some of those planets didn't have a hostile takeover, though. The Empire came, told them "hey we know you guys got tricked by that bastard Dooku, it's cool, it wasn't your fault, hey we'd love to have you on our team" and some of those planets bought it.
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>>94923345
The separatists may have had their own "republic" but they were hostile to THE capital-R Republic

and again it makes no sense for them to be pro-CIS in anyway since they were always pro-Republic, and fighting to restore the Republic since Return of the Jedi in 1983
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>>94923265
I'm liking
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>>94923345
>But like I said, TCW showed us the Separatists had their own Republic.
As someone else pointed out, just having a government of their own doesn't mean they're just having their own Republic. Plus if you remember, that same episode had them discussing the idea of coexisting- not a re-integration but of just declaring peace and each going their own way. There was even a followup episode that started with them trying to reach some kind of deal towards that end.

You seem to believe that just because the Separatists had their own government that they'd be okay with joining a new, less corrupt Republic but the thing is, they already had their own system that they created themselves. The friendlier Separatists weren't interested in re-joining, just co-existing.
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>>94923366
It could be argued that the Rebels weren't pro-Republic but rather pro-republic.
The Republic created the Empire and in many ways still was the Empire. Didn't the Imperial Senate still function?

Like, compared to the Empire, the quibbles about which republic (big or small R) you want to create means very little.
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>>94923375
god that is ugly
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>>94923402
What I'm saying is that the Separatists had more than just their own government, they had their own Republic, which is a specific form of governance.

Like
>Hey, pst, don't you hate the Empire?
>Yeah, I do! Want to tear it down?
>Absolutely! And build a new republic?
>YES, let's do it

That conversation could be held between any former CIS people or between a Corellian and an Alderaanian or a Coruscanti
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>>94923416
REEEEEE
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>>94923405
>Alliance to Restore the Republic
senpai...
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>>94923541
I'm sure the CIS called their republic "The Republic" too
They didn't call themselves the "Bad Guy Republic"
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>>94923416
its from TCW originally
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>>94923452
No, they don't have a republic. They don't want a republic. Just having a senate doesn't mean they have a republic.
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>>94923569
Why do the toons have such shitty ship designs
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>>94923565
pretty sure they called themselves the Confederacy of Independent Systems
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>>94923565
When Poland and France held governments-in-exile during World War II, they considered themselves the legitimate government, not the Vichy regimes of that great Evil Empire the Third Reich. They did not consider communist pro-soviet annexation partisans the legitimate successors.
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>>94923452
Here's the thing, some of them actually liked having their own confederacy because they felt it gave them more freedom. Even if there was now a new and improved Republic, they're not all suddenly going to jump onboard when they'd rather have what they had before the Empire came and fucked everything.
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>>94923584
They are ruled by a senate. They're a republic
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>>94923596
because you have shit taste
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>>94923618
So that's what Sabine's orgasm looks like
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>>94923630
>They are ruled by a senate. They're a republic
No, they're ruled by the Separatist Council, not the Separatist Senate
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>>94923622
A confederacy is not mutually exclusive with a republic.
A republic is how you govern a confederacy.

In fact, we see literally that the CIS have a republic
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>>94923643
>ISD with tumors
fugly
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>>94923630
The Confederate States of America are also a "republic" in the loosest sense too, but they decidedly are not and were not the United States of America, by any definition. I really don't know what's so hard to understand about this. It shouldn't be so difficult to reconcile your headcanon with basic logic and canon.
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>>94923678
In TCW, they show a senate and call it a senate
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>>94923687
The Confederate States were absolutely and 100% a republic
There are no "quotation marks" needed there.

You seem to think that "good guys=republic", "bad guys=not-republic"
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>>94923630
You're taking this way too literally. You're still missing the point- they don't want to rejoin. They want to do their own thing. You seem to believe that all it takes to get all former CIS worlds to rejoin is to go "hey, we have a REPUBLIC guys, you had one too, you want in?"
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>>94923704
yes but that is not the Separatist Council

The Council is the group of leaders we see Anakin kill in ROTS. They ruled the Confederacy of Independent Systems, AKA the Separatist Alliance, AKA the Separatist State, AKA the Separatists
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>>94923686
I was talking about the Arquitens you cuckfederate of interracial systems
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>>94923728
You seem to have trouble distinguishing different states. Might I suggest Political Science 101?
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>>94923755
Watch TCW again
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>>94923791
You should
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>>94923787
Nigger, tell me again that the Confederate States weren't a Republic.
If you feel a strong desire too, go read a fucking book before doing so.
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>arguing over the Confederate States of Irrelevant
SAD!
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>>94923833
I never argued that point, I admitted it forthright. Address my point instead of hallucinating a strawman argument I did not make - why would separatists who wanted nothing to do with The Capital-R Republic join the Alliance to Restore The Capital-R Republic?
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>>94923791
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Confederacy_of_Independent_Systems

>Confederacy of Independent Systems

>General information

>Organization type - Confederacy[1]

>Head of state - Head of State[2]

>Head of government - Separatist Council[1]

>De facto leader - Count Dooku (as Head of State)[1], General Grievous[3], Darth Sidious (secretly)[3]

>Executive branch - Separatist Council[1]

>Legislative branch - Separatist Senate[2]

>Military branch - Confederacy military[1]
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>>94923833
Actually it, by definition, was not. The Confederate States of America was a confederation of independent states, each of which was, individually, a republic itself, but the CSA was not an overarching federal republic. As a matter of fact this was the legalistic justification for secession in the first place; states rights (to keep slaves of course).
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>>94923876
Because the Separatists didn't like the corrupt nature of the senate at the time of their rebellion.
It wasn't the republican nature of the Republic that made it unappealing it was its failings to be what it said to be.

There is no way the Rebels would have fought to restore the corrupt Republic where everyone took bribes and just nodded when Palps took over.
Both CIS and Rebels would agree that was horseshit.
The CIS even had a "I told you so" factor.

Imagine a discussion between a CIS worlder and a Rebel. Where do they disagree?
Why can't the CIS want the new Republic to be THEIR Republic as it used to be during TCW?
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>>94924035
>this typing style
I knew it, I knew I was arguing with shieldgate anon, he moved the goalpost every single time I tried to give him a rational argument and evidence, now I just know he's fishing for (you)s by deliberately being as retarded as humanly possible. Every fucking time.
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>>94923983
The CSA had a Senate and a House of Representatives.
That makes them as much of a Republic as the USA is.

Face it.
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>>94923995
thanks
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>>94924127
>I knew I was arguing with shieldgate anon
I have no idea what you're talking about
Respond to my fucking points
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>>94924127
>general is so small and autistic that a boogeyman has been made to represent every bad post
This general is fucking pathetic.
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>>94924202
It's just that one guy who points at shadows whenever someone disagrees
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>>94924179
You're welcome
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>>94924405
Here you go
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>>94923033
>TCW focused on ASS
>Rebels focused on tits
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>>94924442
ayy thanks senpai
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>>94924442
And here's another one for ya, the front view of thre fleet
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>>94924458
>>Rebels focused on tits
Never have I read a more incorrect statement
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>>94923033
kids show
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>>94924485
Never stopped TCW

Look at fucking Ventress. Jesus
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>>94923033
Because its too expensive. Rebels has a shoestring budget
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>>94924484
What do you call these puppies?
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>>94924572
That doesn't mean all your characters need to have zero curves
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>>94923033
the new boss, Disney
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>>94924538
tcw wasnt a kids show
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>>94924705
Yeah... It was
It pushed the boundary a bit.
But it was for kids.
As much as Adventure Time or Steven Universe is now
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>>94924662
how is he doing this?
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>>94924653
it does, more character means more money
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>>94924783
who knows
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>>94924839
>puts in a shot of Ezra's crotch when Leia comes up to him near the end of the ep

what did Filoni mean by this
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>>94924876
it means everybody wants ezradick
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>>94924987
it's his power
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>>94924484
Ah but you see, it is the lack that inspires the focus. Never have we discussed breasts as prominently as we do now.

He's a sly one that Filoni.
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Been watching Clone Wars. Its amazing.

Found out about 'Dark Disciple' though, and I'm unreasonably angry. My waifu died for a shitty Kyle Katarn knock off.
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>>94925493
The Clone Wars is better than it ought to have been.

But what the fuck is up with the air order?
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>>94925493
>Vos
>Kyle Katarn knock off
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>>94925586
You heard me, bitch
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>>94926058
Whoever decided that glasses should be in Star Wars should be forced to watch Red Tails for 72 hours
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>>94926058
>Pablo thought he could control the power of Star Wars knowledge
>but he was wrong
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>>94926118
calm down pham
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>>94926118
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>>94926118
>>94926332
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>>94926118
>forced to watch Red Tails for 72 hours
ok, I love watching black people die anyway.
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>>94926362
Monocles are ok
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>>94916756

She's a goddess and must be worshipped.
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>>94926362
that's a big monocle
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>>94926392
E D G Y
I liked Red Tails except for the part where the main guy at the end gets hit with like a million 30mm rounds from an Me 262's Mk 108 cannons and only looked like he was tanking 9mm, when in reality he would be unidentifiable meaty chunks, but that's not really suitable for a PG13 bittersweet uplifting drama
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>>94926392
Yeah OK, literally Hitler
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>>94926407
>you'll never worship every inch of that 5head
Just vaporize me immediately
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>>94926407
she looks cute in this...

it's too bad Rey doesn't dressed in stormtrooper armour love to see her in it.
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>>94926567
>literally Hitler

how an I literally Hitler?
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>>94926660
Because you LITERALLY flunked out of a Viennese art school, you LITERALLY were wounded in the First World War, you LITERALLY were imprisoned for masterminding the Beer Hall Putsch where you wrote Mein Kampf, you LITERALLY were appointed German Chancellor by President Hindenberg in 1933, you LITERALLY signed a non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union in 1939, you LITERALLY invaded Poland on September 30th of that same year, starting the Second World War, and you LITERALLY organized the extermination of some 12 million human beings you considered inferior. Literally.
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I wanna play Battlefront 2 real bad
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>>94926826
iktfb
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>>94926826
Then go play it
GameRanger has servers up now

Though be warned, the game has not aged well
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>>94926756
when you shit posted so hard your teaching history

you win
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>>94926879
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>>94918485
make me proud, son.
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>>94926995
i have furiously masturbated to this ship several times.
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>>94926995
Why is she so perfect?
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>>94916921
Cute Rey eats cute bread
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>>94927083
speed + firepower = geting nerfed in later updates
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>>94926660
It's a ww2 joke from the ww2 joke of a film referenced
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>>94926842
Aw yeah that's it mane
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>>94926940
I could never not see that thing on his helmet as the bat symbol
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>>94926885
Fuck you it hasn't.
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>>94926407
Post more sexy Rey! Now!
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>>94928180
BF2 online is as it always was
That is engineer and rocket class
AOE rules because blaster hit detection is shit combined with infinite rolls

Throw a det pack or shoot a rocket.
That's the only way you can get reliable kills.

The balance is shit.
And the reliance on AOE makes vehicles useless because every person has anti vehicle weapons handy

All modern BF2 games devolve to corridor explosion spam.
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>>94928783
I like how the Resistance pilot helmet actually fits now. the small helmets in TFA were distracting
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>>94928783
That's a sexy uniform and helmet on the right, is that resistance or first order? I can't read aurubesh
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>>94929360
It's Canto Bight Police
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>>94929360
C-anto
B-ight
P-olice
D-epartment
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>>94928783
The helmet for that police uniform looks awful.
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>>94929661
>not liking ski goggles samurai helmet police force

kill thine self
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>>94929661
ehh it's not that bad

based on naboo it's canon that police/security mooks must have silly hats
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Mon Mothma is a babe in Clone Wars
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What the fuck are going to be the first order bombers and interceptor ships in battlefront 2?

I'm hoping and also not hoping they're just slightly upgraded tie bombers and tie interceptors.
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>>94929769
Don't be silly anon. Even if it were true, each ship is guaranteed to have a unique inverted color scheme. It practically makes them new ships!
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>>94929769
I'd imagine they'd have the TIE/FO as the regular/assualt class and the TIE/SF as the bomber class. Maybe have the Upsilon be the Interceptor class?
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>Mfw,no one loves Rey
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>>94930026
TLJ will have bombers so the TIE/sf will probably be the interceptor class
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>>94930391
What did you expect? Wait till after TLJ.
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> Rogue One is a retelling of "Dark Forces"

how much of a normie does one have to be to unironically think that?
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>>94930688
Normies don't know what Dark Forces is
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Why didn't anyone tell me there was a Star Wars comic with a cute Twi'Lek boy?
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>>94930700
Ironically enough, I remember at least one uninitiated seriously thinking Cassian was Kyle Katarn back last year in November.

Star Wars fandom is so huge that even the people you'd consider to be a fan by arbitrary autistic definition of "being aware of material beyond the OT" don't keep in touch with the series anymore.
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>>94918485

Those are the engines from the TIE Avenger.
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>>94930762
Where are the doujins Japan?
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>>94920107
Well, the guys in shieldgate control when the first X-wings tear through the gate do a good job. Everyone else, not so much.
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>>94924458
>Rebels focused on tits
T-thanks Filoni
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>>94926485
My favorite bit is when one pilot strafes some torpedo boat and reports it as a kill. 100% historically correct apparently, fighter pilots did it all the time. "Hurr durr, there's a fire, means I killed it, durp."
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>>94928783
What's aurebesh for "trigger discipline"?
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Flat is good SS>>94931246
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>>94930787
We'll, something like it. Fucker's huge.
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>>94931305
The flat side of the chest seduces
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>>94929769
>hoping and also not hoping they're just slightly upgraded tie bombers

About that...
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>>94928613
Never noticed the ARC-170's in the bay
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Why is Forces of Destiny so shit?
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>>94931730
no more shit than your pic related, anon.
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>>94930688
jesus christ

dark forces wasn't even about the death star plans, that was the tutorial level
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>>94930762
>Yendor a boy?
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>>94932517
Yendor is a guy, but the artist doing the manga doesn't know that male and female Twi'Leks are different, so he is drawing Yendor as a girl
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>>94931730
why do you care? it's for young girls
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>>94932621
that feel when you look hotter than the female of your race.
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>>94931730
Because it's for little kids, also your pic is shit
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say my name

Mitth'raw'nuruodo
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>>94932517
> traps are canon in nucanon

EU btfo'd
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>>94924458
I WANT BUTTCHEEKS
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>>94931418
Fuck
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>>94932858
Zahn has gone over this before it's quite easy:
Mith-raw-new-roo-oh-doe
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>>94931246
>>94924484
>>94924458
chestlets btfo
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>>94933282
imperial uniform look sexy
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So, the Empire totally would have won if Tarkin survived the Battle of Yavin, right?
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>>94933606
Considering Tarkin surviving the Battle of Yavin means the Death Star would still be around and most of the rebel alliance would not be, I'm pretty sure that would count as Imperial Victory right there. That's the point of the movie.
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>>94933282
DELET THIS
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>>94933282
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>>94933636
He could have listened to evacuation guy.
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>>94933769
But he wouldn't have, that's the point both of the first film's hubris and of his vehemence against that for having been embarrassed to evacuate the ISD Sovereign at the end of Rebels season 1. So the only possible scenario he wouldn't have died was if the Death Star had not been destroyed, or else if Moradmin Bast had ordered stormtroopers to drag his ass out in a shuttle kicking and screaming.
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>>94933606

If he survives an L the Emperor would kill him
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are x-wing are OP? or are ties just shit?

Return of the Jedi - Battle of Endor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZigWFyK2o&t=90s

Rogue One: FULL Space Battle of Scarif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIftKRavXCg&t=293s

Death Star Assault - A New Hope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WBG2rJZGW8

Attack on Starkiller Base scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UG2EdU1LgM
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>>94934293
that was one side
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>>94934185
In every instance we see at least a half dozen X-wings buy the farm. They're both good for their roles, it's just that the strategic thought behind their design philosophies is radically different which can play out unevenly on the field. Usually it comes down to who is the better pilot or luck.
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>>94934185
As I see it the X-wing is the gold standard of SW fighters. Fast, maneuverable, rugged, shielded, strong gun battery, good missile battery, has any sort of damage control, hyper capable.

Any fighter that outshines it in any category is worth notice. Any fighter that outshines it in most or all is remarkable. As far as I know we don't get to "all" until the Defender and that's well known as a monster.
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>>94933028
Orange Butt Cheeks????
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>>94934650
I need a pic like that with Ezra kissing Seventh Sister's yellow buttcheeks
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>>94920773
Not Cannon. hhaha BTFO
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>>94922805
and then they all die.
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>>94922805
how come Obi wan didnt feel thier deaths?
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>>94934766
a few thousand pilgrims on a scoured world is a lot less than a few billion people on a lush paradise filled with plants and animals
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>>94934766
>>94934789
yeah you're talking about a city being destroyed vs an entire planet, that's a massive difference
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>>94934766
>obi wan feels the mining incident on Jedha
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>>94933028
>>94934650
blue is better
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>>94934930
That is a funny way to spell yellow and green
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>>94934922
Why you parrot the Rebel coverup of their heinous terrorist attack on the innocent Imperial citizens on Jedga?
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>>94934930
>>94935044
If it's not red and black, take it back.
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>>94935044
>>94935158

Twi'leks come in all colours, not like them Mirialan scum
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>>94934766
Who's to say he didn't?
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>friend thinks TCW is shit but rebels is great
?
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>>94935453
good for him, he has his own taste
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>>94931418
WELL WHY CHANGE PERFECTION LMAOOOOOOOO

fuck

i hope the pods look cool at least
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>>94935453
I would guess that he prefers the serial nature of Rebels to the anthology format of TCW
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>>94935917
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>>94935988
Why does this guy feel the need to be so damn smug when you catch more flies with honey?
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>>94936067
some people are born assholes
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>>94936067
When people are constantly assholes to you, I think you kind of stop trying to be nice
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>>94936292
This. Pablo was friendly a few years ago, but the canon purge kind of brought out a lot of ugly EUtists who would take to twitter to blame him for things. A lot of them have sincere questions but can't even ask nicely, so instead of "hey Pablo, is there a chance Revan may be canon?" you get "when are u going to bring back revan u disney shill you never shouldve abandoned the eu"
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>>94936292
>>94936383
I was talking about the Jay guy.

>Not that it was ever ambiguous.

Uh, clearly it was, or people wouldn't have been confused on the matter. You're just patting yourself on the back for being right.
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>>94935453
Personally, I like Rebels better than TCW, though TCW is undeniably great for the thing that it is. Different strokes after all.

But saying TCW is shit? You better ask him if it's because of the OT versus PT setting, because while I like the OT setting and aesthetic more personally I don't hold that over PT era content. He could be an OTfag "purist"and that might be why he dislikes TCW.

If he likes the prequel movies themselves though he's probably legit and just doesn't like TCW's format or artstyle (which takes serious getting used to).
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>>94936426
Sabine was vaguely Asian-ish, but not in an immediately identifiable oriental fashion like her mother and brother. Aphra though has been all over the place due to wildly different artists' portrayals, particularly Salvador Larroca's flagrant tracing of numerous photographs of women of various races. However there are plenty of non-traced art where she looks fairly Caucasian or else ambiguously "brown".
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>>94936426
>Uh, clearly it was, or people wouldn't have been confused on the matter
There's some art where Aphra looks kind of non-Asian but by and large she's drawn Asian. If you had trouble telling that's your problem.
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>>94935988
>people ever doubted this
As someone who grew up around asian sluts, I know so many chicks that rock the sabine look. It's why I sorta hate her design. It's just generic scene ABG : the mando.

I understand if you weren't raised in that culture she would look like a generic tumblrina, but trust me when I say her look couldn't scream SLUT any harder.
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>>94936426
>Uh, clearly it was, or people wouldn't have been confused on the matter
Most of the people who couldn't tell Aphra was supposed to be Asian are the same ones that can't tell a character is Hispanic unless they give them dark skin.

Also who thought Sabine wasn't Asian? We've even had people throwing fits because she doesn't match the look of the Mandalorians in TCW, and even got an explanation last season for why she and her family don't look like the people on Mandalore.
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>>94936590
Hispanic isn't a race. Furthermore, Sabine is confusing partly because of her appearance which is a generic amalgam of numerous different racial phenotypes that rarely express in such a fashion as well as being voiced by an Indian-American actress, which is an entirely different type of Asian altogether, so "Asian" as a descriptor itself is innately ambiguous, seeing as it stretches from Russia to the Philippines and from Japan to Israel.
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>we finally have a Star Wars Vic Viper

ETAs eat your heart out
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>Guards are red like the old ones but with different designs
>Crait is white like Hoth but otherwise different
>LOL RIPOFF!!!!

>Snoke revealed to be wearing gold
>WOW LOL LOOKS SO DUMB LMAO GOLMEMBER LMAO

Why have people been getting so autistic about colors?
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>>94936733
>Butthurt mousefag
>"NU-WARS DESIGNS ARE AMAZEBALLS!"
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>>94936724
Those little Mando fighters are great, I love em, too bad they're not in X-wing or Armada though. That new Chimera ISD expansion for Armada that's coming around Christmas however has a couple of the tiny scale Gauntlet "fighters" like Maul had.

BTW has anyone been able to figure out if Thrawn's personal Star Destroyer also had Chimera decals on the top or just on the bottom in the show?
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>>94936798
>immediate butthurt
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>>94936724
>Vic Viper
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>>94936806
FFG are jews but man do they do a good job
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>tfw TLJ coming out will make this general assblasted regardless of whatever happens
jedi retcon, rey existing, guards doing something... salt will flow
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>>94936654
Dude. It's okay. You can admit you're bad at telling when someone is Asian. You don't need to do this "w-well!" thing.
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>>94936654
Are you the same dude who couldn't tell Diego Luna was Mexican and then tried to justify it by saying that most Americans can't tell a Mexican accent from a Russian accent and anyone who said otherwise is a falseflagging Eurofag?
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>>94936724
How do the wings even rotate?
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>>94936733
Might just be that people don't like bad designs
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>>94937021
the designs are good though
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>>94936733
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>>94937044
I don't mind Snoke but the guards look ridiculous. It's mainly the poofy armored sleeves, though the helmets are pretty dumb, too.
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>>94936952
Considering a lot of people are having that problem I don't think there's much a reason to be smug about it especially when you have pictures like this.

Though I hardly mind whether this qt patootie waifu is played in a hypothetical movie by Luci Liu or Lucy Lawless.

>>94936978
What the fuck?
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>>94937112
She looks Asian there to me
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>>94936654
>Sabine is confusing partly because of her appearance which is a generic amalgam of numerous different racial phenotypes

Really? I could tell she was an oriental right off from the start.

>yellow skin
>round face
>coinslot eyes

She certainly didn't look a white, nigger, beaner or middle easterner.
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>>94937021
>/swco/
>share a website with right wing isis kindergarden and pedophiles
>""""""people""""
I don't come on here to talk Star Wars.
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>>94937227
why did you say "white" three times anon?
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/swco/ - Prosopagnosia and shitposting
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>>94937305
>tfw can't tell who is laughing in that picture
>tfw can't tell who is in my tfw picture
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>>94937305
/swco/- we're tired of talking about star wars but feel the need for some shitty family despite being THE fanbase that hates itself
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>>94937236
>thinking armored mambo dancers looks dumb makes you a non-person
Okay
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>>94937373
t. butthurt
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>>94937373
Considering this is the same general that calls you a shill if you don't like asian stormies with carnival facepaint and dresses, sure
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How much longer until new episodes with BEST GIRL?
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>>94935453
Probably an OTfag.
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>biggest fanbase ever hates itself
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>>94931141
They should have closed the gate the instant they saw the Rebel ships drop out of hyperspace.
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If Dark Side Luke is true how do you think the fanbase will react?
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>>94937664
Which fanbase are we talking about, the normie fanbase that can't tell the difference between snoke and palpatine or the actual fanbase?
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>>94937869
both
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>>94937890
I think normies will be surprised and everyone else will be indifferent
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>>94937500
it's going to be X-wings episodes.

BEST GIRl fly x-wing
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>>94936941
It'll be shit, is that something to be proud of?
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What if the big twist in Episode IX is that Snoke's homeworld is a Dyson Sphere?
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>>94937611
Just like the rest of the garrison, I think they were so used to not having any kind of fighting that it took them a bit to react. There's a lot of "oh fuck... wait, we should be doing something!" going on on Scarif.

They were blind, you might say.
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>>94938013
The truth is that his home will be a Dyson vacuum
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>>94938130
I need more star wars anime girls

>tfw we'll never get a SoL anime with star wars characters as high school girls
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>>94936941
EU fanboys will get triggered, anti-SJW will call it feminist propaganda without showing proof.
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>>94917327
>Sexy rey
>Sexy
>rey
This is bait right?
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>>94917334
>anon thinks LE EBIN " WHAT IS SHE SWCO" is better than what goes on on reddit
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>>94938173
>>94938130
star wars anime when?
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Not sure who are worse

The TFA fanboys who say that TFA was interesting, original and unpredictable while talking about how creators should stop making sequels in other series

Or the tards who call TFA feminist propaganda when it can all be boiled down to lazy and shitty character writing
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>>94938130
Why yes I do wish to fuck Threepio
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>>94938281
the only undeniably feminist (male) star wars content was aftermath and everybody hates it
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>>94938281
>the tards who call TFA feminist propaganda when it can all be boiled down to lazy and shitty character writing


it's the tards it's all way the tards
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>>94932725
>>94932517
>>94930762
New waifu (male) acquired.
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>>94938264
It happens once a thread and doesn't derail anything so he'd be right
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>>94938271
>tfw we'll never see maul-chan and grieve-chan competing for kenobi-senpai's attention
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>>94938173
yes, we do
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>>94938013
Thank you for keeping me salty
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>Luke wears dark clothing art some point in the film (like he did in FUCKING ROTJ)
>HE TURNS EVIL!!!!!!
Why are Star Wars fans such fucking retards?
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>>94937500
>BEST GIRL
Patrician taste anon.
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>>94938271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF7cpXJ0PCM
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>>94938467
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>>94938431
self-proclaimed Star Wars """""""""fans""""""""" never liked ROTJ in the first place, it took cracked.com 30 fucking years to comprehend Lucas poetry such as this
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>>94938431
It's also a holdover from old "Luke will be evil" rumors from TFA (which MSW propagated) based on a misinterpretation of leaked concept art for the Jedi Killer character (which eventually became Kylo) that people believed was actually Luke.
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love couple
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>>94938608
>hera is closer to the dark side than kanan
>satine, a pacifist, is closer than obi-wan

what did they mean by this?
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>>94937500
>best girl
But anon, that's not Seventh Sister
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>>94938608
>no Sabine/Ezra
Perfect.
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>>94938504
Just wait until it turns out that Rian will have Luke not use his lightsaber through the entirety of TLJ and the fanbase will collectively shit itself of their perceived "character assassination" of Luke.

Most people's understanding of the series and its themes is skin deep at best.
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So just to be clear, the only reason that nobody batted an eye at Dooku actually being behind the assassination attempts on Padme is because Gunray was gunning so vocally for it, right? Like the Jedi just figured it was a favor to Gunray cause Dooku was courting the Trade Federation, and not an attempt at removing opposition to the Military Creation Act?

I feel like AOTC has the most complex plot of any Star Wars, resulting in a number of poorly explained elements.
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>>94938719
Considering TFA fundamentally misunderstood a lot about Star Wars and present ideas with no real thought put into them, I kind of don't blame people for not being willing to give TLJ the benefit of the doubt. Even if it's no longer JJ's abortion, we're still dealing with someone trying to salvage a mess.
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>>94938833
>TFA fundamentally misunderstood a lot about Star Wars
it was lazy, but that's not a problem it had
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>>94938918
yes it is
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>>94938941
> it didn't have twi'leks so it misunderstood star wars
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>>94938828
What are you talking about? By the time the Jedi knew Dooku was behind the assassination attempt they were fighting him on Geonosis.
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>>94939048
>he doesn't agree with my post so he must only be complaining about the lack of twi'leks
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>>94938467
>that fucking opening crawl
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>>94930688
I hate this statement so much. It just shows the person who actually says they're the same doesn't even know at least 50 percent of what they're talking about.
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>>94938828
>Like the Jedi just figured it was a favor to Gunray cause Dooku was courting the Trade Federation, and not an attempt at removing opposition to the Military Creation Act?
Yeah. Padme figures it out anyway, but the Jedi don't listen (as usual) because they don't think it makes sense for Dooku to want to target her.
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>>94939073
They know he's a bad guy, but the only clue they have for why Dooku would target Padme is that Obi-Wan overhears Nute talking about it being a condition for him joining the Separatists.

You have to remember, the Jedi don't know what the audience knows.
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>>94939073
The issue here is that if they knew Dooku was specifically targeting her for his own reasons, then it makes it seem like he actually wants the Republic to create an army since she's one of the big opponents for military creation. That doesn't make any sense unless you know he's trying to help Sidious start a manufactured war, which nobody actually knows.

So the only excuse the heroes hear for why Dooku would want Padme dead is just as a favor to Nute. So as far as anyone knows that's all it is.
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>>94938467
the dark side of the foot

kek
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>>94939073
Well Obi-Wan discovers it before the Jedi show up, though I admittedly don't recall if he mentions it in his message.

Anyway, I'm just trying to come up with a reasonable explanation for why the Jedi couldn't put 2 and 2 together and figure out that Dooku is obviously responsible for the clone army.

>army for the republic is supposedly ordered by a Jedi who was actually killed before the order was placed
>template for said army is also under orders from Count Dooku to assassinate the most outspoken opponent of the Military Creation Act

Obviously the Jedi knew something was fishy, and I get that the idea is that Obi-Wan's little escapade and subsequent capture on a Sep world backed them into a corner, but you'd figure they'd be at least a little more wary of putting all their trust in these mysterious clone troopers, even if there IS a war on.
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I agree with RLM

TFA was a great Star Wars movie, even better than ROTJ, it was genius and original, and had likeable characters like Rey whose actor was charismatic.

RO is just lazy and banks off nostalgia. I mean look at it, it only uses vehicles we already saw
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>>94939269
Atleast put effort into bait
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>>94939300
I'm being genuine, TFA was the best movie of 2015

I don't understand the hate for RLM around here, their reviews are always great
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>>94939269
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>>94939111
>but the Jedi don't listen (as usual) because they don't think it makes sense for Dooku to want to target her.

Well, to be fair, to anyone in universe, it wouldn't. For the Jedi, it doesn't make sense because to them it'd be out of character based on how they knew him.

To anyone else, why assassinate the one person who's trying to keep your enemies from raising arms against you?

It makes sense to us, the viewer, because the war was just a farce created by the Sith, which Dooku had become. To anyone but a Sith Lord or the viewer, Dooku trying to assasinate Amidala makes zero sense and people would think him retarded for it.
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>>94939300
>>94939357

Oh shut up you contrarian fanboys, TFA was the best star was in over 30 years, it had no politics, it didn't have the over abundance of bluescreen, it was what star wars is supposed to be

And Rey isn't a mary sue so fuck off
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>>94939484
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>>94939541
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>>94939541
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What can Rian do to Rey in TLJ to make up for her character in TFA

Joke answers do not (You) this post
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>>94939269
>>94939541
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>>94939484
>Sabine
>wearing a bra
For what purpose?
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>>94939568
have her get assfucked by Snoke onscreen

not joking
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>>94939597
For stuffing, of course
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>>94939262
>Well Obi-Wan discovers it before the Jedi show up

Actually, he doesn't. As far as he knew then, the order for the Clone Army was placed by Syfo Dias (which it actually was) and that Jango was contracted by 'Tyranus'.

It wasn't until he and Anakin found Vallorum's former aide on Oba Diah that he ,and subsequently the Jedi Order, found out that Tyranus and Dooku were one the same person and that Dooku was involved with the Clones at all.
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>>94939541
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>>94939559
>he is a RO Prequel fanboy AND a weeaboo

of course
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>>94939541
>Comes to a place that dislikes RLM because of their flip-flopping about nostalgia pandering
>You guys are faggot contrarians
it's like you're crying that your house without locks got robbed. But you're destroying our safe space, right?
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>>94939568
Have her lose or be beneath someone

Maybe have Luke outdo her in the force
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>>94939541
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How will Rebels end, you think?
Will any of the main cast die? Will any of them disappear forever? Will we get another unsatisfying conclusion for a finale?
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>>94939541
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>>94939568
Show her actually struggle. Her biggest issue was that everything came too easily for her- she needs to confront an obstacle that she can't overcome, and if she does, it's only because she had to put a lot of effort into it.

While I don't think she needs to lose a hand, she does need a Luke in ESB moment where she goes against something she's not actually equipped to handle, loses hard, and only later (possibly in 9) does she then confront the same obstacle and show that she's grown. Luke had to get over his impulsiveness and had to learn from the reckless decision to confront Vader before he was ready- Rey needs something like that.
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>>94939643
How are they flip flopping? TFA didn't rely on nostalgia pandering while RO constantly went "OH LOOK YOU RMEMBER THIS RIGHT"
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>>94939673
Kanan will die.
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>TFA didn't rely on nostalgia pandering
>RO constantly went "OH LOOK YOU RMEMBER THIS RIGHT"
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>>94939695
>TFA didn't rely on nostalgia pandering
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>>94939716
>>94939727

Sure TFA had the same general outline of a plot as ANH, but TFA had great, fun likeable characters. RO had shitty, bland characters who you didn't care about and used familiar imagery and characters to compensate
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>>94939695
wow just wow
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>>94939597
>>94939617
For cross dressing, of course.
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>>94939767
Your bait might be weak but you sure are determined, I'll give you that
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>>94939695
See, I defend TFA because it's not as bad (it's just not good) but holy shit yeah it relied on nostalgia. Are you fucking crazy?
I'm one of the people who defend rey, and I don't think it's a perfect film. Fuck this guy.
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>>94939695
>TFA didn't rely on nostalgia pandering
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>>94939534
It doesn't make sense in-universe beforehand, but the audience also doesn't know that Dooku is behind it before the end of the movie either.

AFTER Obi-Wan discovers that Jango is working for Dooku however, things start to look fishy in-universe.

>the Jedi know that Kamino was erased from the archive; no one except a Jedi could have done this
>the Jedi know that Sifo-Dyas did not place the order for the Clones with the approval of the senate, and was in fact killed before the order was placed
>the Jedi know that the template for the army never met or had even heard of Sifo-Dyas
>the Jedi know that said template is also working for Count Dooku, leader of the Separatists, who left the Jedi around the time that the army was ordered
>the template's orders are to kill the leader of the opposition to the Military Creation Act, even if it is a favor to Gunray

At this point there's a lot of obvious signs pointing to Dooku.

>>94939625
I'm not talking about Sifo-Dyas and the clones there, I'm talking about Dooku being behind the assassination. Obi-Wan discovers this before his second message to the council on Geonosis.

>As far as he knew then, the order for the Clone Army was placed by Syfo Dias (which it actually was)

As far as Sifo-Dyas stuff goes I'm aware of TCW's retcon but I'd prefer to work within the boundaries of what the movie tells us, and the movie says that Sifo-Dyas was killed before the order was placed.
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>>94939767
>RO had shitty, bland characters
Maybe Bodhi, but he didn't really do anything. Yeah the first half is wonky, but the second half redeems most of it. but fuck the BOR GULLET scene, had it been removed, the movie would have been fine. Rey has all the character of wet cardboard beyond being too trusting and wanting to find out where she comes from. I much prefer Jyn 'life is constant suffering' Erso
Krennic has also easily become my third favourite character in the entire series
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>>94939796
And RO had TIE fighters and X Wings too

They also had things like ATSTs ATAT's, Tarkin, Leia, R2d2, C3po and Vader to make fanboys like you happy
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>>94939803
He knows that Jango was hired by someone named "Tyranus." He never learned who Tyranus was until later. The audience doesn't know who Tyranus is until the end when we hear Sidious say "Welcome home, Lord Tyranus."
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Why do you retards respond to the most blatant and extremely obvious bait?
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>>94939775
delete this
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>>94939839
>Movie that takes place right around the time of the originals has things from the originals

>Movie that takes place thirty years after the originals STILL has things from the originals

>Meanwhile the movie that takes place during the originals adds more new stuff, like the U-Wing, TIE Striker, K-X droid, the Imperial tank on Jedha, and the Profoundity.
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>>94939673
I'm 90% certain the only major character death by Rebels' finale will be Governor Pryce, the designated villain who sold out Lothal to the Empire for her own personal gain and power. There will possibly be other deaths of minor named characters (e.g. TIE ace Vult Skerris and Sabine's brother Tristan) but aside from that Filoni is trying to give the good guys the happiest ending possible within reason and has along with Zahn set up Thrawn as a character with more importance than his initial appearance suggests. And of course, Rukh is such a colossal red herring there's no chance he'll be the one to do him in.

Of the main protagonists, the only characters who have any real chance of dying are Zeb and Kanan, but I'm fairly sure they aren't going to buy it.
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>>94939839
>ATSTs ATASs
you feel for the fucking memes
>Tarkin
Who was integral to the plot and also drained a metric fuckton of resources to put into the film
>Leia
for three seconds at the end to establish this takes place before ANH
>R2d2
See above
>C3po
I was more excited for Chopper
>Vader
in one of his best scenes in the entire sage, showing just how gutturally terrifying a space wizard who can easily choke you from across the room is. And he intimidates the SHIT out of Krennic, that scene is fine. How can you have a star wars movie based on the Death Star without him? I know normies who thought it was retarded he punned at Krennic, they hated it.
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>Anti-RLM faggots getting bootyblasted

You guys are just jealous that these people talk about movies and are more successful than you will ever be
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>>94939896
Did you just assume my socio-economic status
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>>94939695
>>TFA didn't rely on nostalgia pandering

he has a point...this are not stormtroopers...:)
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>>94939932
>those fucking guns

They are like toys holy shit
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>>94939891
well there goes another thread.
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Fresh hot opinion here, but I don't get why people hate the new stormtroopers. Someone keeps posting that image of what they look like humanized, but I think they look fine.
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Rogue One and TFA are both terrible movies but Rogue One at least was sincere weaponized autism instead of normie reddit memes like TFA.
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>>94939964
I jsut want to see how he comes back from that. I've missed shieldgates brand of shitposting.
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Why does a movie that takes place two days before the original movie have more new stuff in it than a movie that takes place over thirty years later?
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>>94939976
I subjectively like them, but I realize they are objectively bad designs. I'll try editing a promo photo of nu-troopers to post next thread to make it look better.
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>>94940017
>Objectively bad designs
Your opinion is not objective for fucks sake not you again. You even posted this retarded image
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>>94939844
Yes anon, I'm well aware that the identity of Tyrannus is completely irrelevant to everyone but the audience. Thank you for stating things that are quite apparent in the movie itself.

The point is that the Jedi know that the Sifo-Dyas story is obviously bullshit, and they know Jango was also working for Dooku, an ex-Jedi who left the Jedi Order around the time that the order for the clone army was placed.

Hell, even taking TCW into account, why did they wait so long to investigate? Yeah there's a war on, but why not put somebody like Quinlan Vos on the case from the outset?
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>>94939976
I like the new armour and the new ships, not the guns or the planet killer
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>>94940005
Because one new thing is more than zero :^)
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>>94940023
You keep ignoring the rest of my post. My SUBJECTIVE OPINION is that they are attractive designs. It is an OBJECTIVE FACT that they are neotenous and non-threatening. That's how facts and opinions work.
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>>94940050
No, it's not objective, you can't just say it is and have it be that way.
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>>94940050
>it is objective truth that this thing doesn't make people feel a subjective emotion
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>>94940017
They look like they are wearing 80's style sunglasses. Do they have combs sticking out if the back pockets of their armor?
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>>94940005
>>94939886


That's not true because TFA had new X wings, destroyers, TIEs, planet killers, stormtroopers, and transports while RO only had the U wing
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>>94939541
>it didn't have the over abundance of bluescreen
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>94940028
Jango Fett was the clone template because he was paid to. He trained the clones because he was paid to. Jango Fett also worked as Dooku's bodyguard because he was paid to. His loyalties were only to whoever pays him, and if that has him working against the army he was paid to train, so be it.
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>>94940127
don't leave me with them
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_n95mI5RYhgQoyuTROMNLg/featured

So what are your opinions on this channel here? I personally wouldn't have a problem with it if they could stop interjecting their opinions of everything, along with their headcanon into every video of them trying to explaining different pieces of the Star Wars lore.
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Notice how this shitposter showed up at the very end of this thread?
I have a feeling I know who's behind this
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>>94940132
>>94940132
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>>94940132
>>94940132
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>>94940177
I think I know who you're talking about.
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>>94940167
try this guy anon

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6X0WHKm7Po3FlBepIEg5og

>>94940177
so I'm not the only one who sees this shit keep happening
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>>94940149
I understand this, but the fact that all of these factors coincided right around the time of the Separatist crisis is quite convenient and should have raised more Jedi eyebrows than it did.
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here I fixed it

>>94940177
dubs of truth, my guess is that his nom de plume rhymes with "field-gate"
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>>94940132
>>94940132
>>94940132
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>>94939541
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>>94940216
Already subscribed to him, love his videos
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>>94940226
I don't care that he was a quip-bot, he's my favourite droid
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>>94940221
good upgrade but can you remove the mouth?

just as a test shot
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>>94940221
Can you try removing the mouth and replacing the eyes with a thick black line?
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>>94940221
I did the same thing for the Shoretrooper too, I think he needed
more of a scout trooper "beak" and "eyes" instead of the flat bulldog face and solid line visor

>>94940262
I can try but my editing talent is really not so good so I wont be able to leave a textured shadow like on the First Order TIE pilot which is a genuinely good design
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>>94940221
Looks weird without teeth
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Can you imagine the absolute shitstorm if TFA was 100% identical to how it is now, except that George Lucas made it?
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>>94940306
I'm still fucking pissed about this. Driver would have been great, but they CGId his fucking mask over his face. And WHY? What was the point?
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>>94940305
the TFA FO trooper doesn't have teeth in the first place, at least TLJ fixes that

>>94940287
I'll try next time
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personally I'd prefer someone with actual photoshopping talent do this, I have only the most cursory editing abilities
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>>94940306
This

I get a lot of people tell me "Well, at least it's not Lucas"

Like holy shit, you would hate this if it was Lucas, but no instead you jerk off to it and it gets a 90 something on every critical website
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>>94940304
it's ok I don't have photoshop just Elements
>>94940349
cool
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>>94940383
>>94940349
>>94940221
10/10
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>>94940306
>set isnt real
>actor isnt even real
When Samuel L Jackson was asked about performing on a blue screen for the prequels, he just explained that actors should absolutely feel comfortable giving a convincing performance in front of a blue screen. He compared it to performing on stage in a theater production. If you're a good enough actor, you will be able to give a convincing performance. For the most part, I think the actors did just fine. Just look at Ewan fighting the Acklay for example.

And ironically, I think Adam Driver probably would do fine too. So what is the motherfucking point in CGI'ing over the actor like this? You're removing the one genuine part of the footage that was left, even Lucas didn't do that outside of nameless Clones. And even then he went above and beyond to have soldiers mo-cap with Temuera's face showing in multiple scenes.

>but they wanted a more impactful face reveal!!
Then remove the scene. The Snoke scenes in TFA were utter pointless fucking garbage anyways, as we know nothing about the fucking guy. They just showed hologram-Snoke so JJ could have a bigger mystery box. They may as well have just mentioned him by name, and not have any scenes with him at all.
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>>94940476
>but they wanted a more impactful face reveal!!

they fucked that up too cause anyone with half a brain would have made the reveal the moment when Han confronts him on the bridge

instead it's a random scene where he interrogates Rey with no emotional impact at all whatsoever
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>>94940539
>people laughed when he took off the mask
Not going to lie, it was the first time i felt embarrassed watching Star Wars

Mostly embarrassed for Driver though, and at how weak Kylo was being portrayed. Not Drivers fault, just JJ incompetence as usual.
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>>94940448
my edits are hardly good let alone 10/10, but they indicate a very basic necessary trend in enemy armor design - you don't make your bad guys pudgy baby faced ninnies unless you're a comedy like Spaceballs
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Now that the RLMfag is gone

>RLM cries about the prequels having small nods to the OT such as lines
>TFA redoes the entire plot from the OT and has the same lines in some places and they love it
>The blue screen in the prequels are shat on when almost everything in TFA is CG

And don't even get me started on their RO hypocrisy

What is wrong with those people, do they just lack the self awareness to understand that they are being hypocritical
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The hypocrisy is unreal. Holy shit.
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>>94940476
>When Samuel L Jackson was asked about performing on a blue screen for the prequels, he just explained that actors should absolutely feel comfortable giving a convincing performance in front of a blue screen. He compared it to performing on stage in a theater production. If you're a good enough actor, you will be able to give a convincing performance.

Do you have a link I've been trying to find this again for a while
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>>94940575
Not on hand, but i'll dig around for a bit. Will report back if i find it, but I know for a fact its true.
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>>94940569
the star wars fandom's collective character assassination of the man who is primarily responsible for their very existence is the true tragedy highlighted by the prequels
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>>94940569
Jesus fucking CHRIST

Will these normies do one fucking second of research
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>>94940628
I REPEAT
>STAR WARS """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""FANS""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
they are ESBfag "ot purists" and EUdrones, nothing more, nothing less, they never liked star wars in the first place, they just hated it more when it didn't stroke their own egos
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>>94940563
Whereas if the reveal had been on the bridge it would have been shocking and sad to see that the wannabe Dark Lord is just a weak-looking kid. That small change alone would have done wonders for Kylo's character.

JJ's incompetence is truly astounding.
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>>94940566
i think that just armour
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>>94940675
>NO TRUE FAN

this is a fallacy, they are fans even if they are idiots, and they are unfortunately responsible for the direction of the franchise under Disney
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>>94940676
DESU Kylo Ren is the one thing from TFA that I honestly actually like, and is 90% of the reason I'm actually looking forward to Episodes 8 and 9. The other 10% being that Abrams and Bad Robot are having zero influence on the series from now on.
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>>94940723
Fan by definition means fanatical. Someone who seems to hate most of the franchise beyond what internet culture approves doesn't sound fanatical to me.
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>>94940723
They quite literally do not like the overwhelming vast majority of content created by George Lucas and his studio Lucasfilm. That is the opposite of fandom. How aptly scathing is Pablo's critique of Grey Jedi when these fucking retards are indeed "Grey Fans" - i.e. not fans at all, they just want the social capital benefit of being considered part of the in-group.
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>Ren takes his mask off
>Most of the theatre laughs hysterically

I think that was not intentional
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>>94940770
there is more than one kind of fanatic, especially in a franchise that spans several generations such as Star Wars

were they not so fanatically outspoken things would not be as they are now
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>>94940674
The ironic thing is that TFA had more CGI and bluescreen than all the previous films combined. But for some reason people ate everything up when they said they were using a real sized Falcon and X-Wing, even though they were literally only used in the background while sitting still for a couple of shots.
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>>94940776
it's been 2 days since a grey Jedi shit
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LIKE:
>Alien (1979)
>Aliens (1986)
>Aliens Versus Predator 2 (PC, 2002)
>Aliens Versus predator (PC, 2010)

DISLIKE:
>Alien 3
>Alien Resurrection
>Alien novels
>Alien comics
>Alien Versus Predator comics
>Alien Versus Predator novels
>Alien Versus Predator (PC, 1999)
>Alien Versus Predator (2004)
>Alien Versus Predator Requiem
>Prometheus
>Alien: Isolation
>Alien Covenant
>James Cameron in general
>Ridley Scott in general

Tell me, am I a fan of the Alien franchise or am I a heavily opinionated little shit who happens to like a few bits of the franchise
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>>94940883
Do you self identify as a fan? Identity politics are bullshit, stop taking this so seriously and basing your entire existence on this label.
But you're going to no true scottsman me
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>>94940883
you like what you like, why are you asking us?
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>>94940603
>>94940575

Couldn't find any mentioning of the theatre (although perhaps I got that quote mixed up with Christpher Lee?)

I did find this though;

>Was it tough doing all the green and blue screen acting in the Star Wars films?
>No, not at all. For me, it was like going back to my childhood. I was an only child, and I spent a lot of time fighting imaginary monsters and things in my room when I was growing up. So it was really an extension of that.

(cant post link because spam, but google it if you like)

So same shit, different example. Any actor that complains about struggling to imagine stuff aint no actor. Armchair critics who bash bluescreens on principle can get fucked too. Theres always a way to make things work, CGI and not.
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>>94940905
>do you self identify
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>>94940883
>dislike Alien Isolation
Definitely not a fan, fuck you

I agree with your point though, good example.
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>>94940776

So if you are someone who stuck with the order until the rank of master and then left after you realized they were corrupt and hypocritical

You still have all the skills and training of a Jedi, you are not a Sith and you are not part of the order

What are you then, if not a grey Jedi?
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>>94940932
>WEH! You used a buzzword used by SJW's?
where is your argument? Do you call yourself a fan of Alien? That's all that matters. There is no 'true fan' just like there is no 'true christian' or no 'true scotsman'
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>>94940966
a force user or a Jedi exile
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>TFW I like 5/8 SW movies

If Disney makes a couple more turds then I might not be a fan is what you are saying
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>>94940955
You're right on both counts, I'm definitely not a fan, but those reasons are gameplay related and better discussed on /v/, not the /swco/ general.

>>94940967
>just like there is no 'true christian'
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
"oh yeah I don't believe in god or anything (m'lady) but I'm totally Christian, gimme my communion wafer tendies"
we're talking literal objective definitions here and you pull shit like this out of your ass
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>>94941036
I see you didn't even read and understand my post, but you saw christian and just immediately tipped your fedora to me. Here's your last (you), I'll even give you the last word, because you don't even have a fucking argument here.
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>>94941022
That depends on whether or not you like the novels, comics, cartoons, and video games, which comprise a very large portion of canon.
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>>94940883
>Not liking Alien: Stronghold
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>>94940028
>The point is that the Jedi know that the Sifo-Dyas story is obviously bullshit

Except it wasn't. The Kaminoans were telling the truth there. Dias was the one who actually placed the order for the clone army. But Tyranus, Dooku was the one who hired Jango to be the template.

>and they know Jango was also working for Dooku

They still had no knowledge of Dooku's involvement with the clones until Dooku revealed he was Tyranus to Skywalker and Kenobi.
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>>94941082
I've been saying my argument for all of my posts: if you dislike the majority of a franchise, you are not a fan of it. How is that so hard to understand? If you want to refute me, please tell me how one can be Christian without believing Christ is the messiah and/or the son of God, and/or died for mankind's salvation? I would very much like to hear that theological argument.
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>>94941098
You can tear apart my opinions on the Alien franchise all you want, they're not necessarily good opinions, but they are honest. I am very picky when it comes to my scifi fiction, and none of those tickle my fancy. In fact, that I have such an affinity for the rather poor 2010 video game should be an indication of my shit taste in regard for the franchise.
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>>94941179
do you like cyberpunk?
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> people think the ren reaction wasn't intentional
How does it feel to be dumber than a normie
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>>94941127
All to takes to be a Christian is to believe that Jesus was the son of God and died for your sins. In fact that's all a good majority of Christians in America can agree on. I'll let you try to convince them that they aren't true Christians.

If you can't see the parallel here you are truly retarded.
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>>94941206
In general, no. Again, note the incredibly controversial greentext at the bottom of that post
>Ridley Scott in general
I fucking despise Blade Runner and cannot believe it's getting a sequel without the insane semen demon Sean Young
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>>94941235
>All to takes to be a Christian is to believe that Jesus was the son of God and died for your sins.
So in other words, what I just said? Concession accepted. Glad I was finally able to get through to you.
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wow you guys are especially retarded today
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>>94941235
Now you see why I gave up on this guy, he's retarded and doesn't understand debate.
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>>94941120
>Dias was the one who actually placed the order for the clone army

That's a retcon, and a clunky one at that, which contradicts information presented in the movie itself.

>They still had no knowledge of Dooku's involvement with the clones until Dooku revealed he was Tyranus to Skywalker and Kenobi

But they had plenty of information that something was very wrong that they didn't follow up on until it was too late.
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>>94941305
Cool goalposts move and adhom bro. You have yet to explain how someone can be a Christian without believing Christ was the son of God and died to redeem humanity's sins, or more pertinently to the thread, how somebody who hates every Star Wars movie except Empire Strikes Back can be a Star Wars fan. The clock is ticking.
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>don't like the eu
>eu makes up the vast majority of star wars
Guess I'm not a fan of star wars then, desu
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>>94941271
>So in other words, what I just said?

Not at all. Believing in Jesus and God does not constitute the majority of the New Testament (all of Star Wars canon) but is rather the bare minimum (liking one or two movies).

You have got this analogy entirely backwards, but have convinced yourself that you have not.
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how can one general be so fucking unpleasant? everyone is a total cunt, nobody agrees on anything and there's all this infighting
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If being a true star wars fan is this important to you, you're sad
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>>94941237
>Sean Young not in it? dame

I like the art style of cyberpunk but not a lot of the stories...hell most stories are copying Ridley Scot.
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>>94941434
fat Rey CONFIRMED
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>>94941434
>clippers
Trash confirmed
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>>94941392
>vast majority
try going off 4chan for a while
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>>94941434
>The Clippers

for what purpose? they are like the most irrelevant NBA team. Even the Sonics are more relevant than them, and they've been gone for a decade.
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>>94941413
>>94941429
are you the same guy?
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>>94941532
>less than a minute between posts
you new here
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>>94941542
>you new here
using this for 2 and a half years
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>>94941716
>>94941716
>>94941716
>>94941716
Get your sorry asses in here
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