How did Stan, an uber conservative fall for Francine?

>>94914181
he doesn't love her. she's just a trophy wife. stan only does things to fit societal norms at the moment. he has no convictions other than his irrational idealism. idealism is a hallmark trait of right wingers. read "Materialism and Empirio-Criticism" by Lenin

Love doesn't care about politics. You can think the person you love is wrong or stupid but still love them for other things.

>>94914237
go back to /leftypol/

>>94914181
Stan's a neocon first of all
and Stan is a bit of a boy scout, he wanted to save Francine

He wants that Franny fanny.

>>94914291
Completely misunderstood OP.

>>94914181
They explained it, she's just fucking hot and he caved to his sexual desires. That's all.
That and he wants a woman who'll be his home-slave, which Francine wants to be

>>94914237
You will die alone in a a pool of your own tears, vomit and drunken piss, Marxist scum. Do not despair! You will be content, satisfied in your mediocrity, blissfully unaware that true happiness exists. And no one will miss you when you are gone.

>>94914412
/thread

>>94914412
marxism is actually really good if you do it right

>>94914357
yeah not all marriages start because both partners were soul mates, or even liked each other on a personal level
but at least Stan and Francine love each other now
they have a lot of problems, but that's part of the adventure

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>>94914444
>(insert that long list of failed communist countries here)
>i-it w-works guys i swear! We just haven't tried it the right way y-yet!

>>94914456
>soul mates

what a crock.

>>94914444
You're wrong, but nice quads.

>>94914181
He's all about that franny fanny

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>>94914444
Quads mean Marxism is the key to Utopia.

>>94914313
>>94914412

you triggered, snowflakes?

>>94914412

And true happiness consists of screwing over foreigners and sexual minoritoes to feel better about yourself?

>>94914444
It's an overly idealistic system that relies on people not acting as people would. It's only a single step above anarchy in this regard.

>>94914884
>If you disagree with me politically, you're a bigot!
Great way to encourage intellectual and honest discourse, my friend.

>>94914969

Mate, your premise was almost verbatimely "If you disagree with me politically, you'll never be happy".

what a shitty fucking thread

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>>94914237
>Lenin
Listen right wingers are annoying but if you unironically support Lenin you should reassess your life

>>94914181
Because she's sexy as hell

Also what the fuck is this thread

>>94915133

And if you pay close attention you will find that all of those countries were dictatorships even before they turned communist. And in many cases still were dictatorships after they stopped being communist.

>>94915195
>support Lenin

lol i never said i support Lenin, i just suggested a book. i'm not a fan of Lenin. calm the fuck down.

>>94915133
should we talk about how many democracies have done horrible things too or do you just wanna ignore facts inconvenient to your argument?

If Communism works without error, then why aren't there any Communist countries out there?

Communists - 0
Capitalists - 1

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>>94915133
protip, dumbass

Lenin instituted state capitalism
stalin was an opportunist that because a brutal autocrat nationalist

mao exploited farmers, the opposite of what karl marx suggested

pol pot was a pyscho who had assistance and funding through proxy militias that had supplies sent to them by the CIA

there's no such thing as a communist country. communism is a stateless society where the workers own the means of production

also capitalism literally pays death squads and espionage organizations like the CIA to murder and subvert left wing movements. look up the history of the CIA. false flags, proxy miliias, economic hitmen, puppet dictators...

>>94914869
Steve dreaming his mother work as stripper...

>>94914444
Yes, all you have to do is make sure you're the one on top and it's wonderful.

>>94915305
because there's no such thing as a communist country, you dumbfuck. communism is a stateless society where the workers own the means of production

>>94915349
you just described capitalism. try again.

>>94915356
You still haven't answered my question as to why Communist societies do not exist in this modern era despite the claim that Communism works.

Meanwhile, I, a Capitalist, shall remain seated here, with a slice of bread that I bought with legal tender and Capitalizing Every Word In My Sentences.

>>94915285
If you're not a fan of lenin then why are you a fan one of his books

>>94915369
It's almost like every system will have someone inevitably end up with more power than others and then use it for their own benefit at the expense of those below them.

>>94914237
Wait...isn't Lenin and idealist?!!

>>94915382
you do understand why that just isn't a logical argument right?

like 400 years ago I could say that if Capitalism and Democracy are so great then why aren't there more nations doing it and why aren't they more powerful and rich than Mercantilist Monarchies?

>>94915400
>>94915285
Yeah anon, I'm not a fan of Randy pitchfork and would never suggest battleborn

>>94915440
Communism existed 400 years ago as well. Where are they now?

>>94915400
lol broken clock can be right twice a day you paranoid fuck.

>>94915509
no it didn't, your an idiot

Communism is a product of the societal changes brought about by the industrial revolution, if you don't understand that you likely don't know anything about communism other than the West good East bad simplistic bullshit they taught you in high school

It is stupid that this has become a political thread instead of a francine thread.

>>94914444
Where the workers own the means of production? Where anyone can start a business with an idea to sell a product to people who desire to own it?

I believe that's called free market capitalism you communist faggot.

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>>94915561
Joke's on you: I didn't even go to high school.

Stan: I lost my virginity to a cracked out blonde bimbo.
Steve: But you told me you lost It to Mom.
Stan: That's right, I did. <smuggrin>
Steve: .....

>>94915418
so anarchy is the solution?

>>94915596
it's a political cartoon. deal with it

it's becauses its a bad show trying to have a flawed family structure like the simpsons and family guy without realizing why it works with the simpsons and why family guy doesn't work. It's just a dysfunctional mess of people who really don't seem to like each other staying together because that's how shows like this are "suppose" to work even though the structure doesn't make sense with characters like that. No one really plays off of each other not counting rodger since he seems to just go with everyone well. Stan and Francine don't have any real chemistry, hell peter and lois have better chemistry and play off each other better, harley and steve are just annoying together, Stan's kids are just archetypes ment to disapoint him, The german fish is there just to be like the stewie or brian of the show I guess, to make jokes and quips at the expence of everyone and to be the butt of jokes else even though roger already does that much better. The show would just be better as a no family stan show, maybe with rodger to play off of.

>>94914943
so is capitalism.

>>94915605
>doesn't realize that the person who starts the business owns what they produce and trades what they produce is not free market capitalism because free market capitalism offers no protection for the smaller business and the workers owning and trading what they produce is bought out by capitalist corporations that control the capitalist state

>>94915623
for half of the first season.

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>>94914943
lol right wing values are idealistic. they don't use logic or rationale thinking.

dialectic materialist argumentation is the opposite of idealism

>>94915662
lots of cartoons are political, for many seasons. american dad is no different

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>>94914237
Stan strives for greatness and often achieves it, unfettered by failure. Xenophobic and pigheaded but ultimately compassionate. He's a surprisingly balanced parody of conservatism in an era where most liberal writers would be content to portray him as purely villainous.

>>94915696
it started highly political, then became less so.
it's not really the focus and hasn't been for years.

>>94915299
>>should we talk about how many democracies have done horrible things too
You mean like not starve their people? Also, you amusingly used democracy as your subject rather than capitalism, which says a lot about you totalitarian faggots.

>>94915005
Statistically you're less happy than him though

>>94914181
BROWNIES!

>>94915777
whichever you wanna talk about

and yeah, both have a pretty big record of starving people. Even worse than the communists, most starvation related to communism was a result of poor planning and a mix of man made and nature disasters, mostly war or drought.

There were literally multiple cases in Great Britain alone where the British let areas of their empire starve to death and refused to import food to the localized famine despite there not being a larger food shortage in the empire and the famine being a result of their own economic planning

>>94915558
Not with those imaginary hands...

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>that episode where Jeff is skinned alive
THEY WENT TOO FAR

>>94914884
>And true happiness consists of screwing over foreigners and sexual minoritoes to feel better about yourself?
Now that's what a stomach full of koolaid looks like.

>>94914554
They happen, but is the exception, not the norm like media thinks it is, it is just when the compatibility is undeniably high, marriage as general though is basically just a business contracts and more for the practical benefits (read: Tax breaks).

I consider my aunt and her husband to be ones for each other, she has known him since she was 6, started going steady at 12 and they didn't marry until like both were 30+ and had two kids at which point it was basically just stating the fact that they were gonna stay together anyway, calling them anything but Soulmates would be a understatement.

They are also a "Hot wife, ugly guy" combo since he got (and beat) cancer which obviously left its effects.

>>94914181
>How did an ultra-conservative fall for a blonde, ditzy trophy wife who has no problem taking care of the house and raising the kids

Nah but really though, opposites attract. Francine is all the fun Stan doesn't get from his peers and Stan is the structure Francine needed in her life. They complement each other and balance one another out.

>>94915622
Anarchy is the solution to end all solutions.

>>94915648
wtf... capitalism relies on people acting exactly as they would -- competing for scarce resources.

there are certainly many situations with irrational actors, or decisions based on incomplete information. but for the most part everyone choosing to vote with their wallet is the quickest route to change, and paints the most accurate of society.

>>94917073
It certainly would end every other solution.

>>94915676
all values are idealistic. (You) don't use logic or rational thinking.

sociopathy is the opposite of idealism.

>capitalism sucks, I wish I was living in so in Soviet Russia or Cuba

>>94916129
those goddamn cultists have to ruined koolaid's reputation for generations. that stuff is delicious, and undeserving of its association with these crazy people.

>>94917338
I agree. What's your favorite flavor?

>>94917229
>all values are idealistic

nope. math has values.

>sociopathy is the opposite of idealism
nope. sociopaths are idealistic because their ideal is whatever their desires and goals are. look up the definition of sollipsism. none of that has anything to do with logical, rational thought

>>94916129
>hey guys i'm a fascist by virtue of not admitting the reality that capitalism economics and imperial wars lead to theft and murder of civilians!!! murica

>>94917393
Not the same guy but I grew up loving the Cherry flavour. But the Jammers Blue Raspberry is pretty good too.

>>94917524
How does that make someone a fascist?

That doesn't fit any of the requisite definition of the word.

>>94917533
They're all pretty ok, but, cherry and fruit punch are actually my least favorites compared to some of the others. Like the new(ish) mango, watermelon, and green apple flavors are really good.

>>94914342
And I want you to shut the fuck up Boco

>>94917587
Can I ask a legitimate question, and, I'm not baiting.

Why does everyone hate Boco, again?
Anything in particular?

>>94914181
>How did Stan, an uber conservative fall for Francine?
you're probably too young to remember but having differing opinions didn't used to mean you're blood enemies who would rather slit the throat of their first blood than to even touch the same object the other thought about touching.

>>94917544
fascism is a merging of state and corporate power. right wing authoritarian values screws over the working class and starts wars to steal resources from foreign countries. it's no some ironic buzzword. when people use the word "fascist" these days, there's a reason for it. the president of the u.s. literally said nazis were "fine people" and his base is racist. godwin's law as a fallacy is fucking dead.

How did hank hill end up with fucking peggy?

>>94917645
>starts wars to steal resources from foreign countries
Less than 4% of the oil used in the united states comes from iraq. This is after the iraq war.

The vast majority is domestic, south american, and canadian.

That aside:
That is STILL not the definition of the word fascist.

>>94917645
nigga, the left wants a merging of state and corporate power in the form of socialism let alone full on commie.

>>94917645
>fascism is a merging of state and corporate power.
No.
That is absolutely not the definition of fascism.

>>94917615
1. Tripfag
2. Wont shut the fuck up about Morrigan from dark-stalkers
3. Is a crying waifu-fag (see above)
4. Never contributes anything to threads
That's all I can think of off the top of my head

>>94917706
you forgot about contractors like bechtel making millions. also blackwater. dick cheney's KBR

oh, it's definitely a definition of the word fascist. Mussolini said that's what it was, mussolini was a fascist. Mussolini got power GIVEN to him from the king and queen of italy. just given to him. no revolution. resources were privatized in nazi germany as well.

>>94917764
>1. Tripfag
This is egregious.
>2. Wont shut the fuck up about Morrigan from dark-stalkers
I've seen him post her a couple times. But that's not a problem in my opinion.
>3.
See above.
>4
Look at the discussion in this thread. In point of fact, his only post was on topic. Can you say the same for the rest of this discussion?

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>>94917754
it literally is. fascism privatizes resources

>>94917734
>left wants merging of state and corporate power

funny story. leftists want to overturn citizens united. guess you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

>>94917788
>oh, it's definitely a definition of the word fascist
Not according to cambridge.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fascism

>mussolini said
Musslini was a fascist. He was also a socialist.

>>94917809
>it literally is.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/fascism

I just wanted a sexy Francine thread :J(

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>>94917816
>>94917834

http://www.ub.edu/graap/bel_Italy_fascist.pdf

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

"King Victor Emmanuel III turned to the young Fascist movement, which he considered to hold a hardline right-wing orientation by violently suppressing strikes, and appointed Benito Mussolini prime minister."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

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>>94917834
check out all this right wing bullshit. that's mussolini, hitler, and the king and queen of italy.

keep in mind that the nazi war machine owed its existence to u.s. corporations.

>>94917393
>>94917533
patrician taste

Cherry, Black Cherry, sometimes watermelon.

purplesuarus rex was tits. WHY NO MORE~?~?~

>>94917615
I just joined the band wagon

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>>94917834
oh look. they had nothing to do with socialism. how about that. guess killing all those communists means they were right wing, huh?

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/

they're both incredibly shallow. stan only cares about her looks and she only cares about stan's ability to provide. their marriage is based on the most basic of evolutionary programming.

>>94917933
Yes, I'm aware that mussolini was a hardline socialist. He was raised socalist.

But this is the definition.
Here's another.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

>>94917998
Hitler is not mussolini though. Mussolini grew up as a socialist, was taught socialist values, and he was named after a socialist.

>>94917788
>now also confirmed doesn't know the definition of privatized.

effectively speaking a different language.

>>94917962
>the dictionary is right wing

This is a joke. This has to be a joke.

>>94917962
>keep in mind that the nazi war machine owed its existence to u.s. corporations
Relevancy. Russia owed it's supplies and defensive equipment to America as well. And Japan owed a lot of its shit to Germany. And the US owed a lot of its technology advances to Britain, which it mass produced and shared with them.

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>>94917998
>Jacobin

Really good American Dad thread here.

>>94917933
>"King Victor Emmanuel III turned to the young Fascist movement, which he considered to hold a hardline right-wing orientation by violently suppressing strikes, and appointed Benito Mussolini prime minister."
So why did he appoint him prime minister?

It wasn't to form an army and fight the fascists, was it?

>>94914444
>no precedence
>>94914237
Lenin was a faggot how couldn't do Marxism right, not that it can be done right anyway
>>94914884
Yes. Being anti-immigrant and respecting the sanctity of marriage isn't fascism. Marriage shouldn't be a government issue anyway and people shouldn't be forced to minister gay weddings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm0NKcBZcY
>>94917524
Capitalism has only existed for a few hundred years and for literally all of human history people have sought dominate, it's not a result of capitalism in itself. It isn't the economic system, it's the political system being corrupt, this is not mutually exclusive with Capitalism. Ancient empires were all hella corrupt and some practiced a form of socialism/communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_economy

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>>94914181
sexually adventurous blond with big tits, who loves him back? seems self explanatory.

>>94915341
Actually, according to your logic, capitalist muderers wouldn't exist because capitalism deplores the involuntary destruction of another's property (a person's body is their property). So, they were not real capitalists. :^)

>>94918134
>Capitalism has only existed for a few hundred years
You're either insane or brainwashed. The trade of anything for anything else is ancient. The use of currency to substitute value of goods ridiculously old too.

But you're partially correct on marriage. It should only be a government issue for tax purposes. And if the government isn't allowed to control religion, and it shouldn't, there's no reason to force someone to perform a marriage. That being said, there's no reason to not allow a marriage either. You just can't have 2 wifes and 3 husbands on tax-forms.

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>>94915341
And have you ever wondered about why all those people didn't simply establish "classless soviety where workers own means of production" when they had power. Apart from "They were evil" or le ebil CIA made them not to do it.

Anarchists and communists and other will never give the proletariat ownership of "the means of production" because if it would come to pass as Marx envisioned it, the workers would could remove themselves from the overarching leftist system (even if it manages to take over the world, murder all who oppose it and replace human history with its own "scientificly proven" tale that was predetermined from the start) created by revolution and thus collapse the plans of people who destroyed the previous system. Thus all those systems will produce is a farce where revolutionaires pretend to give people authority but only when they do what the revolutionaires want to do. It's telling that your pic features the "success" of early stage revolutions only as people holding up a symbol and a group of "evil" people wanting to stop them from holding the symbol.

Also to respond to OP: These kind of marriages aren't very common. It helps to remember that the show features incredibly caricaturiased characters and requires lot of drama to function.

>>94917512
It has been observed that attempts to bring a left-wing society have all failed miserably, the closest thing to success was Somalia, but that wasn't really anarchy, it was kritarchy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kritarchy

>>94918311
Taxes should be entirely individual as well. And yeah, Capitalism goes beyond currency and trading. Capitalism as we know it dates to the Renaissance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism#History

>>94918320
If the means of production are seized by the state it necessitates that the state have the authority and right to redistribute the wealth for itself and by itself while abolishing the right to private property of the proletariat. The bourgeois MUST have the right to private property in order to redistribute wealth otherwise they'd be unable to redistribute it while the proletariat must cede this right, for the good of the country above that of the individual. In in order to redistribute the wealth, the state must be extremely centralized and powerful.

By cambridge's and merriam-webster's definition, the bourgeois are fascist.

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>this thread
What a shitshow. You should all be ashamed.

>>94914237
Do you even watch the show Anon? Or is this something you read on an IMDB review and thought sounded smart?

>>94915735
This guy gets it. Good job Anon

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>>94918430
Did you accidentally quote the wrong post ?

>>94918569
I'm more or less agreeing with you but I'm expounding on why communism necessitates certain fascist ideals.

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>>94918602
So it isn't evil when "we" do it ?

>>94918361
You don't know what left-wing means.

>>94918721
I don't follow.

>>94914237
You sound like a public employee who is afraid his boss is going to realize how useless he is and fire him like all public employees do
Some people dream of greatness, you are content with having a job where you are so insignificant that nobody even realized you work there

>>94918410
>Taxes should be entirely individual as well.
Unless you're trying to encourage or discourage population growth. Or manage real-estate/agriculture/industry by encouraging domestication.

And I'm calling bullshit on wikipedia. Anyone can edit that shit; and a concept of assets isn't new, nor should there be some arbitrary cut-off point in an ever-changing system.

>>94915341
>Venezuela

>>94919048
All of these socialist idiots think that once the REVOLUTION kicks off they'll be welcomed with open arms into the financially comfortable Inner Party -- none of them think they'll end up farming turnips for 19 hours a day with the rest of the proletariat.

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JUST MORE FRANCINE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Because like all hardcore right wingers, he's a hypocrite at heart but all of his deviations from his ideology are just "Dealing with reality as it comes to me" rather than him dropping his ideals when they inconvenience him
Normal people understand than an ideology is supposed to be an overarching goal, not a day to day reality that defines who you are

>>94918754
I propably formulated my argument in an ill way. I just wanted to highlight that kind fo thinking. It's excactly that kind of thinking that is 5% responsible for communist society failing to materialise.

It's simply dilemma stated here: >>94918320
>If you enforce revolution by leading it and forcibly educating people on marxist dogma you eventually create a dictature, state-capitalism, stalinism or anything-else-than-marxism/anarchism/socialism/ideology
>If you don't enforce it, people won't eventually do things that this supposed utopia requires to materialise to visible world, even without the pressure of an outer force affecting them.

Most people I have argued usually solve this dilemma by implying that all dissolution is caused by meticulous outer forces such as capitalism, fascism, people who do my their ideology in wrong way, etc. Ultimately, all marxists experiments fail because people's suspension of disbelief doesn't scretch past few generations, which isn't helped by the cynicism and mistrust that is caused if "classless society where workers own the means of production" fails to materialise in a short timespan.

I'm propably going to end up banned for this offrail discussion but whatever.

At first I thought I was a Blue Dog Democrat, but now I can't believe the party as it currently stands would want to have anything to do with me. What's the next step to the right, a Goldwater Republican?

>>94919112
But I'm an artist!

>>94919324
Are you straight-ticket voting? Pick your damned candidates.

>>94919393
Oh, then please allow me to correct myself -- you won't be picking turnips; you'll be starving to death in a gulag filled to near-bursting with other 'people' who would be of more value to the species were they butchered for meat.

>>94919411
I just don't know how to accurately describe my politics to the people that ask. I've been going with "I'm a conservative democrat" or "I'm a blue dog democrat" for years, but now I don't know what to call myself.

>>94919490
Maybe a Libertarian Democrat?

>>94919490
'Independent', 'Mixed Politics', 'Apathetic Now.'

>>94919490
Try being a social-democrat/communist mix (depending on what area of the economy we talk about) with a strong focus on referendums and incorporation of more direct-democratic practices.

>>94917623
Heresy. HERESY!

>>94919490
describe yourself as a "faggot obsessed with labels"

>>94919676
But I don't want those things; I'm not an imbecile.

>>94919957
No, I meant, there are people with much harder time than you in describing themselves accurately.
So relax.

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>>94914181
>wife
He didn't.

She and the kids are a curse.
A punishment for not appreciating his true family.

And she is pretty horrible as a wife.

Haley isn't Stan's. She cheated the night before their wedding.

She's left or decided to leave him at least 4 times.

She's lazy and doesn't want to work.

Stan really does deserve better.

>>94918455
post more.

>>94915735
Stan ended up being a surprisingly likable, well-rounded character precisely because he's a strawman made up by an angry post-election Seth MacFarlane. He needed to be refuted and shown the error of his conservative ways because that's what the show was set up to do, so he ended up having far more capacity for self-reflection and guilt than the entire cast of Family Guy put together.

>>94920109
Wait, wat

>>94914444
tell that to the 100,000,000 dead due to it

>>94921152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-q87IKP9HM

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> O cool, a lively AD thread

wew lad

And here I was wonder why an American Dad had this many replies.

Multiple episodes demonstrate that Stan can unwind and have some fun, it's just that external factors like Roger being a jerk, Hailey being a loser hippie, and Steve lacking assertiveness and morals forces him to be uptight. Combine this with Stan being forced to grow up at an early age because his father abandoned him and mother emotionally scarring him, which shaped Stan into the man that he is today.

As to why he likes Francine, it's because he understand the importance of sex after marriage. He really need to be an uber-social conservative reign in a free spirit like Francine and call upon God to give him strength to match her sexual appetite.

>>94920109
Francine is literally the greatest good the Stan will get. Stan does deserve better, but he'll never get a hot wife with an ungodly sexual appetite like Francine to replace her.

>>94918311
>You just can't have 2 wives and 3 husbands on tax-forms.
Why the fuck not ass hole? You got something against my polygamous relationships?

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>>94921862
>Stan does deserve better, but he'll never get a hot wife with an ungodly sexual appetite like Francine to replace her.

He did find a better match but decided to stick with Francine after fucking her a few times.

>>94919957
You are an imbecile if you keep trying to reconcile the left/right divide by being a blue dog piece of trash.
Pick a damn side you fence sitting lazy fuck. Educate yourself and it would not be hard to pick a side. The only problem is you're either lazy and didnt do the homework, or stupid and think you were lied to when you DID do the homework.

>>94921942
Him and Joanna never had sex

They were about to when he decided it was wrong last second

>>94921965

I could have sworn they fucked multiple times.

>>94914237
>idealism is a hallmark trait of right wingers
nigga wat

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>>94921965
Nope!
>>94922002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJID7NyWklM

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>>94921444
>Klaus got to hug them too
Feels good, I always feel so bad for him

This scene is great!

https://youtu.be/9MgqDCpaj3U

>>94915341

Isn't Libertarian Socialism an oxymoron?

>>94914237
>please read lenin and take it seriously
double plus source

>>94914181
Francine can be a whore. But she's a whore who gets hot for masculinity. Francine would probably be/marry a liberal if liberals weren't all beta cucks who would never make a woman a good housewife.

>How did Stan, an uber conservative fall for Francine?
Also, it was the 80's. Francine's like a born again Christian getting off the drugs. Being Christian was a part of Stan's deal until the show forgot about it.

The worst Francine episodes: "Hayley might not be Stan's daughter", the end of Stan Loves a Woman when she's mad and no one makes her see her hypocrisy.

The best: Francine's Flashback, the movie at the beginning of Helping Handis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdSBjV9I_80)

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>>94914444
ur kiddin' right

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>>94915561
>your an idiot

...is American Dad the only cartoon show where the couple are of at least decently equal attractive levels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRND_sczAy0

>>94914181
Didn't they have an episode explaining that he mainly liked her for her looks?

Also, his conservatism in later seasons is somewhat downplayed compared to the Bush era seasons.

>>94921881
you have to draw the line somewhere, or else you'll have 20-30-40 person tax collectives of strangers, as if it were a giant groupon

>>94917073
A Final Solution, if you will.

>>94917891
Me too buddy. Perhaps 4chan really is changing.

>>94914181
She's hot as fuck dude.
Physical attraction always trumps political ideology.

>>94914444
I used to be a die hard conservative, but if quads says so...

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But why did the fish fucked the alium, answer me that

>>94915341
>communism is a stateless society where the workers own the means of production
Jesus, where did you go to school? 2001 Wikipedia?

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>>94926977
Yes.

And King of the Hill, I guess.

>>94915369
you mean people with the most power...have the most power?
i never thought of it that way

>>94915341
My parents lived in burkina faso under sankara regime. Surprisingly, it worked until the french government gave weapons to compaoré and got killed. Despite being french, my parents actually liked his politics, as he wanted the niggers to get educated and shit.

Nowadays, my fathers is one of the head in a PMC fighting terrorists in mali, mgsV style.

Conservative men and Liberal women are drawn to each other.
Conservative men think they can redpill their woman, liberal women think they can bring out the sensitive side of their man.

Meanwhile liberal men are literal cuckolds and whiteknights while conservative women get gangbanged by niggers on a regular basis.

>>94930766
>while conservative women get gangbanged by niggers on a regular basis
Sounds more like liberal women.

I think if you want to insult conservative women the closest would be "married to a secret faggot who's hiring rent boys of the DL".

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>>94914869
Whats up with the incest innuendos?

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>>94914444

i agree.

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>>94932847
One of the many.

>> I'm Steve.What's your name?
>>Whatever you want it to be.
>>Franci..Hold on.

>>94915420
not even remotely

>>94918134
>capitalism has existed for a few hundred years

nope. private ownership of the means of production and accumulation of capital started around the time of the agricultural revolution and has been the impetus of murderous empires, theft, racism and colonialism

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>>94918854
cool non argument bro

>>94918320
i like how you obfuscated and just avoided the issue of capitalism superpowers deathsquadding people and subverting left wing movements. funny how capitalists have all these reasons that left wing societies would die out yet say nothing about how if they were destined to fail then why is there violent interference from fascists in the first place

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>>94919048
what about venezuela? the maduro government got loans from goldman sachs at a high interest rate.

you know? goldman sachs? the bank that was involved in loans to greece? funny how that worked out, huh?

>>94922558
research the political platform of all right wing movements. pure ideology. they reject science. they're religious, and faith is the opposite of knowing.

>>94917623
>farmersonly.com
>history of religious groups only marrying members from other religious groups
>racism is patently right wing. ignores history of racists disallowing interracial marriages

i agree. right wingers suck.

>>94918045
>dictionary is right wing

^^^strawman argument. the dictionary doesn't include historical and political context

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>>94918024
>mussolini was a socialist

riiiiiiight. a socialist who put down workers strikes. uh huh. and appointed to power by a monarch.

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>>94919324
you're a clinton and trump supporter at the same time. she called herself a "goldwater girl". barry goldwater was against desegregation and bill clinton gave a speech at stone mountain.

>>94926247
nope. the original meaning of the word "libertarian" meant left wing and anti-authoritarian because the word "anarchist" was banned in france.

"libertarian" is a stolen word. right wing libertarians study liberal economists.

>>94935464
schizophrenia is a terrible thing anon.

>>94915341
>delescluze never got into power
>lukacs never got into power
>rosa luxemburg never got into power
>makhno created an anarchist state that was constantly fighting wars against other powers
>chen never got into power and was only a party figure
>no matter how deep i dug i couldn't find this guy so maybe
>durrti was never ran a state but only army factions during the spainish civil war
>tito was an interesting case in that he broke away from the soviet system insuring a more stablie sense of life but still dependent on excessive autocracy perhaps you could consider this to work
>the peoples republic of hungary was incredibly poor due to both lack of industrialization and geographic problems
>dubcek had interest in rerform that were prevented by the soviet government. we don't know how they would have turned out but they were more promising.
>economic success is hard to determine due to this party being primarily to fight Khmer rouge it was less a country and more a war zone
>i would consider sankara more a general authoritarian however economic socialism in this case worked but it goes against the general traditon of this chart mocking stalinism for authoritarianism
>marcos never held power
>economy tanked under allende
>salih never took power
most of these people never had a government to govern. some were inefficient. some were successful due to being strong and authoritarian in a decentralized region.

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>>94935233
So technically: Left-wing people kill people. If they kill good people they are "subverted" by the capitalism which somehow has agents everywhere, even amongst people who staunchly oppose them, and actively worked to kill anyone they perceived as "reactionary" or "bourgoise". You simply believe that if "evil people" wouldn't stop them everyone would come and build utopia excactly as Marx envisioned it. You are literally unable to comprehendd why people wouldn't want what you want and thus reason the fact that history didn't progress as Marx envisioned as some gigantic malevolent force stopping it from doing so.

>>94935414
great argument

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>>94914444
Shit, I guess i'm a communist now

>>94914444
God damn

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>>94918455
/pol ruins everything.

>>94922859
he says it in the video dum dum he does have sex with her but realizes he like fran better.

>>94936108
Mussolini was the definition of a fascist

>>94914181
A better question is how does he overlook her past

>>94917795
>2
On /v/ hes in about 99% about female characters and talks about Morrigan every time.
Also this is the only time I've seen someone defend Boco, hmm.

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>>94935115
because peaceful cavemen definitely never killed each other or stole, or fought over territory for hunting or water rights.

>>94914456

Aren't they actual soul mates who always find each other in their next life?

>>94932847
Seth really wants to or already plows his sister.

>>94935269
>all right wingers reject science and are religious
>I keep getting called right wing despite being an atheist electrical engineer.
WHAT AM I?

>>94935140
How are they slaves when they don't work nor produce anything?
If prison are slavery they are doing it wrong.

>>94915133
The only way you can get communism is with a dictator
Because communism is in opposition to human nature.

>>94935500
It is an oxymoron because to be economically liberal is the antithesis to being socialist, you can't claim an economy is liberal if the people dont even have the right to their own money.

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>>94914444

You never seem to see any idiots pining for the days of feudalism or theocracy so why are there so many morons wishing they could stand in breadlines and be shipped to an undocumented military prison without trial?
Where are all the neo-monarchists where are the people demanding that that everyone go back to living in caves and having chief chad take their share of the buffalo?

I remember some old episodes implying Stan sees other women behind Francine's back.

>>94914342
Shut the fuck up boco.

>>94914237
Read The Unique and It's Property; it blew the fuck out of Marxist thought so badly that they refused to print Engel's lacklustre comments on it in the USSR for fear of contamination.

>>94915420
Yes, utterly.

>>94935077
Spooked.

>>94914444
Marxism doesn't work, period.

>>94915133
Need to add Venezuela to that list.

>>94937928
/pol/ is undoubtedly the easiest board to troll.

"Jews aren't that bad, are they?" 10,000,000,000,000 comments across innumerable threads.

>>94914181
>not posting the brownie scene
your better than this

>>94915844
Yes, because they couldn't pay for it and to force food into the region would destabilise the market and bring down the government.

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>>94935115
t. comrade

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>>94933270
Its a pun.

>>94938334
The US prison system provides very cheap subsidized labour to private companies. This can actually be a reforming process, but not as it's currently being executed at the moment.

>>94935269
But that's not true and the USSR and many other Communist regimes also rejected science when it didn't fit in with their ideology.

>>94914313
Aww the little snowflake is triggered.

>>94938533
I'm a Neo-Monarchist, albeit for a Constitutionally restricted one with local municipal government run on more democratic lines.

>>94938958
>If I use the words I was insulted with and change their definition, it defuses them and makes my enemy look stupid!


Typical lefty tactic, doesn't work against people with the ability to remember and with rationality. Go be deconstructionist somewhere else.

>>94915671
>>94915636
>Hey everybody look at me Im just gonna strong a bunch of words together and act like I know fuck all about the subject matter.

>>94938928
>The US prison system provides very cheap subsidized labor to private companies.
Not a single prison in the united states utilizes convict labor your idiot.
There aren't chain gangs anymore.

>>94917188
>Being this sad inside