Cheetah

>>94892104
For what purpose? Am I to believe that /co/ is knowledgeable enough about anything WW related to have a decent conversation about Cheetah? Fuck right off, all you drooling retards ever care about is jerking off and acting like the psychotic children you are.

And besides, even if you did come here to actually discuss shit, you're a fucking pleb for posting Priscilla Rich. There's a reason Barbara Minerva is THE Cheetah, cause the other three fucking suck.

>>94892196
Whats the name of the person who hurt you, Anon?

>>94892258
>Wonder Woman herself has a strange compassion for this enemy
Because Diana isn't a brooding edgelord, Bruce. Fuck off.

Cat lady or lady in a cat costume?

>>94892345
Cat lady
Emphasis on cat

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>>94892196
You're just angry because Barbara got her powers from being molested by some topiary

>>94892345
Depends. Rich and Domaine are costumed, Minerva and Balesteros are transformations.

By the way, why the hell do some Wonder Rogues come in fours?
Four Cheetahs.
Four Silver Swans.
Four Red Panzers.
I'm waiting for a fourth Dr. Poison, and you could make an argument that there are four Dr. Cybers too.

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The DC handling of cheetah has been bad for a long time.

Sometimes she's a credible threat to wonder woman. Other times she gets beaten by Catwoman. It's hard to take her seriously but I want to cause she's Cheetah.

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At some point in New 52 there seemed to be a push to use Cheetah. Maybe DC was coming off success of two female villains gone "good" ish or chaotic neutral-- Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, but they'd been basically popular for a while.

DC was pushing Cheetah. Johns had the right idea. Make her an A list super villain. Then she got moved to suicide squad and was misused and depowered but then she also just basically disappeared. I think Rucka's cheetah work felt very forced and redundant.

>>94892104

Do you prefer anthro cheetah or woman in a cheetah suit cheetah?

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In the digital wonder woman weekly series cheetah has a few good appearances. I forgot the name of it tho.

>>94892698
Who knows? Maybe the movie's success will make non-WW writers start treating WW villains as credible threats.

>>94892753
hopefully. But it seems to be a problem that has plauged WW for a while. Villains on paper that should be good, but their power-levels and credibility go up and down so much. And it is something that has definitely been a huge problem with Cheetah, more so than a Circe or an ares.

>>94892731
I get what Rucka was doing, but the whole run is marred by his focus on "fixing" everything rather than just telling a story.

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I am hoping Injustice 2 will also generate some more interest in Cheetah.

Wonder Woman 77 has an enjoyable cheetah arc.

>>94892787
Yeah that is a good way to put it. I'm so fustrated. I'm not actually a fan of WW. Partly because every writer wants to fix her as opposed to just write her and let the character speak.

Its like: reading WW in other comics, okay I'm starting to tolerate this.

New WW relaunch everything you know about the character has been wrong! Here's the secret history!

Every time! That's all she has been since about mid 2000s. Older WW, ironically older rucka/jimenez WW was better.

>>94892739
Cheetah suit, but I'd prefer if she still had powers anyway

Maybe if she wore a suit made from an avatar cheetah

>>94892901
>new Cheetah literally wears Minerva's skin
creepy

>>94892883
Well, Rucka came back specifically to establish WW's Rebirth status quo. So that was his focus right from the start. Add to that how he got screwed out of Wonder Woman Earth One, and I get the feeling he was VERY focused on doing HIS Wonder Woman (to the detriment of his writing).

>>94892196
cranky pls

>>94892787
Might have been the intention, but I don't feel like he really did much fixing besides reestablishing the "real" Amazons. The run was mostly just boring meandering.

>>94892739
Anthro I guess, more things to do with it also didn't Minerva kill Priscilla when she started trash talking her? Minerva and Snapper Carr was pretty cute.

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>>94892196
While Cheetah does deserve a bit more exposure, I think Giganta is in bigger need of a push. The poor girl is only used to job and show how much stronger another character is half the time

>>94893152
And Killer Frost stole her boyfriend

>>94893152
Unfortunately, you can't talk about Giganta without things turning into a giantess fetish thread.

>>94892232
>>94892258
>>94892269
>>94892398
Right
>>94892698
>>94892731
Wrong

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>>94892104
Cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, some woman in body paint, cheetah..... And now
The Cheetahmen.

>>94893212
What man in his perfect mind ditches potential deadly cuddles for certain frost kill bites?

>>94892437
And if we have 4 dr.psychos then we can have one complete person.

>>94893316
Another thing we can blame on Dr. Manhattan, I guess

>>94893270
Fursuit Cheetah is objectively terrible. However, I am constantly triggered by werecheetah's pointed ears.

I can't win.

>>94893212
Good, that means more Giganta for the rest of us.

What do you call a cat that cheats at poker?

>>94892825
>>94892906
What's this about?

>>94893365
A card shark.

>>94893365
A cheetah.

>>94893350
>not liking kitty ears
You and I are enemies now.

>>94892739
Anthro, with long, red hair. It needs a good mix between cheetah and human, too much of either makes the design fall apart
>>94893221
This is the sad truth, but I want a writer to try and do something interesting with her

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>>94893406
She's supposed to be a cheetah!

>>94893434
Fuck now I'm in the same boat.

>>94893434
Kitty ears are cute! C U T E !

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>>94893221
>Unfortunately

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>>94892698

New 52 JL Cheetah is objectively sexiest Cheetah


Also r8 my waifus

>>94893531
terrible taste, my friend

but as long as you like them it's ok

>>94893655
Y-you too

>>94893152
Well, she's definitely going to be in Robinsons run, so there's that. Let's just hope she remains the same as how Simone wrote her.

Something about Doris that everyone forgets is that she's a mad scientist. This is a fundamental aspect of the character, yet it almost never comes up. She should be building giant robots and death rays, dammit!

>>94892104

Who is your favorite Cheetah?

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I have a crush on leather costume Cheetah.

>>94893434
Reminder that Cheetahs are the only big cats that purr.

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Cheetah is cool.

>>94893753
>This is a fundamental aspect of the character, yet it almost never comes up.
It would help if they actually gave her an origin before shoving her into various comics like she was Absorbing Man or the Wrecking Crew. They will probably change her origin to be daughter of a titan now.

Claudia Black Cheetah is the best shit.

>>94893753
I dont have much confidence in it considering Grail is also showing up and poor Doris is probably going to job AGAIN with little to no character backing her
>>94894047
>Everyone WW villain needs to be tied to Greek Myth
Fuck off with that. She doesnt need to be a former gorilla but keep her science

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>>94893817
While it's kind of inconsistent that some artists give her a costume and others not, I like it either way. Even more if she starts with one and tears it off when mad enough.

>>94892698
Clearly Selina could punch through an elephant's skull.

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>>94892104
Wonder Woman has lots of villain with potential:

Angle Man, Dr. Cyber, Queen Clea, Droctor Psycho, Giganta, Cheetah, Doctor Posion.

>>94894660
Shame nobody uses them.

>that time she tried to rape Wally

>>94894660

>just a nigga with a square ruler

>>94893868
Reminder that Cheetah's are the only big cats that are easy to domesticate

>>94896099
>>94893868
Is this going to end in porn?

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>>94896096
That he stole from Darkseid.

Angleman is pretty powerful. He can bend the direction of all things, teleport, and twist gravity, so that you fall to the sky.

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>>94896273

>>94893868
i know

i got to hang out with cheetah cubs years ago
those suckers are LOUD AS FUCK when they purr

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>>94894660
>>94894746
I liked that the Steve Trevor special a few months ago brought back Eviless/Saturna and reimagined her as a necromancer.

I kinda miss the alien origin where she was actually from Saturn though. It would be neat if they could connect her to Saturn Girl's people from the 31st century

A good number of Wonder Woman villains need a revamp. Wonder if Silver Swan or Blue Snowman will ever turn up again?

>>94896685
Silver Swan probably will, I'd say she's about as an iconic Wonder Woman villain as Doctor Psycho or Doctor Cyber.

Blue Snowman probably won't be used in a serious capacity

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>>94896685
The only Silver Swan I ever liked was Vanessa. Sure, she was just a brainwashed patsy, but I liked her design and the idea of one of Diana's perpetually discarded supporting cast members coming back as a bitter, broken villain because Diana failed them.

Plus, she was fucking savage.

>>94896783
Well if this were Marvel, they wouldnt hesitate to use a female character that dresses like a man

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>>94896836

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>>94896836
The thing about Vanessa is that she's basically Diana's Jimmy Olsen, which is why is so horrifying to see her turned into a villain, against her will no less.

You're right of course, the next time Silver Swan comes back, it needs to be her, cause, let's face it, she was the only one who was really that interesting.

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>>94897117
>tfw you get replaced by a younger blonde

Wonder Woman is a dangerous predator and should be locked up!

>>94893212
I'm still salty about this. I love Frost but Ryan belongs with Giganta.

>>94897447
What ever happened to Wonder Girl after rebirth?

>>94897664
I'm sure she's fine!

Probably off somewhere with Kon, Bart, and the real Tim... Yep. They're all fine. Definitely fine.

>>94897664
No idea. Cassie just plain hasn't shown up yet, and I highly doubt anyone has any plans for her.

>>94897664
just benched probably for YJ Rebirth

>>94892698
>she gets beat by Catwoman

Any writer that has Catwoman beating Cheetah, is retarded, or has no clue how strong Cheetah is. That would be like the Joker beating Superman in a fist fight. It's just fucking ridiculous.

>>94898028
>Any writer that has Catwoman beating Cheetah, is retarded, or has no clue how strong Cheetah is.
Pretty sure that happened in Balent's run, so, yeah.

>>94897785
Rebirth Tim is basically real Tim

Read Detective Comics and ignore Lobdell's Teen Titans

>>94896685

>Doctor Cyber: A posthuman-upload, she is obsessed with transhuman development, leading her own criminal cult-corporation of deranged cyborgs - think SHODAN

>Doctor Posion: Grandchild of a japanese war-criminal, she is trying to understand the anatomy of all mystic creatures.

>Doctor Psycho: Killgrave without his charm

>Egg Fu: I did like Morrison's take, so I would stay with it.

>Angle Man: The son of a italian wizard, he uses the tool of his heritage to steal and gain fame - his artifact gives him power to shape all geometric forms and bend it to the 4-dimension

>Blue Snowman: A supervillain-fangirl

>>94895896
>Cheetah, after another humiliating defeat at the hands of Wonder Woman, vows to destroy her
>Becomes obsessed
>Keeps track of her movements, analyses her battles, collects all information she can about her
>Her hideout is covered in newspaper clippings and pictures of her
>Her first thought when she wakes up, and last thought before she sleeps, is about HER
>She fantasises about all the ways she will kill her, humiliate her, make her suffer as she has suffered.
>Over time, the fantasy changes.
>Now she imagines dominating her rival, of bending the amazon to her will, of making her beg for her touch.
>The daydreams get lewder and lewder, in all manner of ways.
>She can't stop thinking of her.
>Her stupid face, her annoying voice, her smooth, silky legs, her wide, firm hips...

>Oh no...

>These new feelings wont stop
>She wants to hurt her
>but also hold her...
>It's all to confusing. It makes her frustrated.
>She needs to hit something
>She goes on a crime spree.
>Stealing money, jewels, anything to take her mind off it
>off HER

>She's in the middle of a heist when...
>There she is
>That stupid, arrogant, beautiful look on her face
>This is all HER fault!
>The fight is savage, desperate, almost needy
>She manages to wrap her legs around her rivals waist, ready to claw her pretty eyes out, but...
>instead, she finds herself pressing her lips against the amazons...
>All is still, no one moves, no one breathes
>All that exists is the two of them.
>The criminal, the freak, the monster
>And her rival, her nemesis, her enemy...
>the woman she loves...

>The kiss ends, and they stare at each other, one in shock, the other in hopeful fear

>Cheetah opens her mouth, and says three words she never new she needed to say...
But this story will never be told...
Why live?

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Gundra and the Valkyries should be another tribe of Amazons, like the Bana.

That gives her a connection to Diana, and a plot relevant reason for them to have conflict.
Maybe play up the cultural differences between the different tribes, the different gods they worship, just good old Amazons politics

She could just use a redesign, I say use something similar to Bruunhilde from Earth 10.

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Costumed Cheetah a shit

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>>94895933

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I love cheetahs

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>>94899197
Queen Clea should be a shared Wonder Woman and Aquaman villain. Johns wanted to have 7 different underwater kingdoms of Atlantis, so she could be queen of one of them, Venturia.

Maybe it could share the same physical plane as Themyscira, similar to how Xebel is in another dimension. Which would explain why she fights Diana specifically. Themyscira is an island after all and something has to fill the waters surrounding it

And they could give her one of those Atlantean relics, like the Scepter that Vulko used in Throne of Atlantis, instead of Arthur having to give up Neptune's Trident.

She definitely needs a redesign, between the golden boob plates, the weird head dress and the mini skirt nothing about her design really says Atlantean Queen.

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>>94899712
Osira is really interesting to me because she and her husband remind me of the DCAU versions of Hawkman and Hawkgirl, a comic book take on "aliens who crash landed on earth who became worshiped as gods and helped build the Pyramids in Ancient Egypt."
Except instead of convoluted reincarnation nonsense like the Hawks she just slept for thousands of years

I want to see more of DC's take on ancient Egypt in a way that ties all of the various elements together. During her reign she could have interacted with the wizard Nabu, Prince Khufu, Teth-Adam, the Blue Beetle scarab, Metamorpho and whatever else they can think of.
I was actually looking up some Isis stuff and I noticed a cover where she used a power signature similar to Osira's. And making those two characters rivals seems like a potentially cool idea.

>Lex Luthor is just some bald guy who just happens to have Kryptonite
>Joker is just some guy who laughs and kills people
>Cheetah at one point was just some woman in a fucking onesie

>>94900820
Osira interests me as well, mostly because she has the whole peace through subjugation thing going on. Makes a nice contrast with Diana who wants world peace legit.

Also, not gonna lie, I would just straight up make her a goa'uld from Stargate.

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>>94892196
Fuck off, I actually liked Priscilla.

Though I'd agree with you that Barbara's a better long-term Cheetah, there's just something that gets to me about a villain completely driven by bitterness and low self-esteem to the point of insanity. She could almost be Wondy's feminine equivalent to Two-Face if writers really wanted to push her, she's basically just an immensely pitiful fruit loop of a villainess, despite actually being fairly competent in her own right.

>>94901101
I've always felt that Priscilla should be the original Cheetah and for Barbara to be given Deborah's relation to her. If Priscilla were Barbara's rich American aunt and the original Cheetah it would inform Barbara's interest in Urzkartaga and her grudge against Diana.

>>94893868
Cougars purr, and they're bigger than cheetahs.

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Just got this qt two days ago. Looks awesome. Speedster fill in for my Justice League until Sideshow makes a Flash.

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>>94902228

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>>94902243

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You think Cheetah will appear in the Earth One WW books, being her arch-nemesis and all?

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>ywn capture the bad kitty

>>94899197
Make them thematic parallels to Diana and the Amazons, not another tribe. Where as Diana is an ambassador of peace whose mission of enlightenment is tempered by the necessity of conflict, Gundra is an unyielding authority who seeks death and violence to winnow humanity and leave only those worthy to wage war eternal for distant and capricious gods.

As for a design, take her a step away from WW's superhero look and go with a more ornate and dynamic, like Arthur Rackham meets Simon Bisley.

>>94892698
>>94892698

I always liked her utterly brutal fighting style

going for weak spots like the tendons,hamstrings,neck and major arteries was actually my biggest draw to the character.

I actually dont give much of a shit about her personality and design wise but holy hell is her fighting style cool.

She hunts like an actual cat or agile predatory mammal would

>>94898898
Fund it

>>94899573
>Cheetah reading cat fancy
Little gags like this are always the best.

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>>94899658
Post moar cheetos.

>>94904809
I think I'd like that feet design better if her ankles weren't as thick as her tail.

>>94897664

wasnt she Diana's niece from Lennox?

>>94899712

yes please, MORE underwater locations. bring in the Brown Aqua Woman from Earth 2.

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>>94892104

>>94898496
What aws morrison's take on Egg-fu?

>>94905021

murderous biocomputer on spiderlegs, He was renamed ChangTzu and lived with the other science villains.

>>94902861
I hear what you're saying. Making them just another tribe of Amazons isn't particularly creative.

But I was trying to think of how to make her a more recurring antagonist, since a frequent complaint is that nobody bothers reusing WW villains. A brutal and violent thematic parallel without a direct connection like you're describing can only tell so many stories.

But if Gundra and the Valkyries were another part of the Amazon nation then suddenly Diana has to be more diplomatic with them, they can show up in future stories where other Amazon tribes from around the world interact, and Diana will need to figure out how to make peace between all of these lost sisters, and spend time in the future negotiating with them.
You could probably get all of that from the Bana already, but this would be an opprtunity to expand Diana's world even more, to explore the nuances in their cultures. Shield maidens could be less misandrist than other Amazons but instead glorifying and worshiping death in battle.

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the fact nearly none of her designs have THE most distinctive cheetah facial feature always annoys me

>>94907148
HURR >>94892232
kill yourself

>>94904970
fuck that bitch

>>94907160
>nearly none
>nearly
learn to read

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>>94907148

>>94907160
>nearly

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>Mine are real, Catwoman.
>We better be talking about claws.
>And they are spectacular!

>>94907293
>selina not only wins this fight but wins a later fight with cheetah backed up by a dude with freeze's gun, scarecrow, and riddler

high tier boxing/street fighting skills>being a literal demigoddess

>>94908622
Fucking brutal

>>94908622
Someone get that man a rape whistle

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I think Circe's a better fit for Wonder Woman's arch enemy personally.

>>94907035
You don't always need a direct connection, instead simply sit down and think about Gundra as an independent character in her own right and how her goals and actions would conflict with Diana's. Let's face it, most of Batman's villains only direct connection to him is them living in the same city. The thing about Gundra is that her mission should have a certain appeal to those she's after. She brings a sense of order and purpose, epitomizing a might makes right mentality from the bottom up.

>>94909529
Circe has the Apocalypse problem in that giving her a direct win creates a fundamental alteration of the setting. And that means, much like what happened with Apocalypse, if you use her frequently she looks like a chump.

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How do you feel about Urzkartaga? Does it have a place? Is it just one of those things by Perez that should be forgotten, like the multiple entry origin for Giganta?

>>94910136
He works fine, the issue is that he needs to have less of a physical presence and be more of a weird fiction/Lovecraftian presence. If you want to tie him in more to the rest of the DC mystical side, link him to the Green and have him be on the border of the Green, the Red, and the Rot as an aspect of the expansive and deadly side of nature.

>>94898898
Parts of Rebirth felt like they were going in this direction.

>>94910136
Urz is fine. There's gotta be a source for Cheetah's powers and a psychotic plant monster god is as good as anything.

>>94907417
Deadshot could knock Cheetah out by shooting her point blank in the head with an elephant gun. Maybe Selina is a secret meta who hits really hard?

>>94911019
For being a rather long and drawn out, "Not MUH," a lot of Rucka's stuff seems underdeveloped and directionless.

>>94909529
Whats that shit on her hip, the lasso of bullshit?

>>94913968
Didn't she steal the actual one?

>>94911154
Maybe Bast likes her more.

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>>94893817
>that pic
>those "cheetahs"

Almost everything is wrong. They look like jaguars with cheetah markings.

>>94914453
This

Cheetahs are slim with a round head

>>94898028
>That would be like the Joker beating Superman in a fist fight
That's a tad exaggerated.

>>94914453
The problem is that cheetahs are too cute.

>dodson gets script for the issue
>cheetah's got cheetahs? okay time to do some reference
>wait a minute, these things are fucking adorable
>I'll just make them generically threatening
>what do you mean none of the big cats have pointed ears?

>>94901878
Cougars are not "big cats" if we get technical. And I'm not talking about size.

>>94914569
No it's pretty accurate

Catwoman and Joker don't have any powers. Cheetah is within spitting distance of Wonder Woman's strength level and has sub Flash speeds

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>>94907417
Bad writing....or more jerking off Batman characters. Yes anyone that knows Cheetah knows she would kill Catwoman in under 30 seconds.


>can stand toe to toe against Wonder woman
>loses to some chick wearing a latex catsuit, that has no super powers at all

Wew lad.

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>>94914533
>Cheetahs are slim with a round head

And dog paws.

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>>94892104
Am I the only one that likes those versions of Cheetah where she is transformed but is still dressed.
Like this Version from pic related

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>>94914800
2009 was a good time for the costume.

>>94914836
Was Secret Six good?

>>94914696
Endurance animals all have similar physiques.

Dogs are probably the only marathon runners better than we are.

>>94914866
Yeah, the Villains United introduction, the first miniseries, and the first ongoing by Simone was great. It fell apart at the very end, but that's because Flashpoint came along and storylines had to be aboted.
The New52 Secret Six was not good though.

>>94914836
I can't stand those pants.

>>94914866
Yes.

>>94914800
>>94914836
I want to draw my pefect version of her but I'm way to lazy right now.

>>94914892
Those pants look like the crotch part is open and that she doesn't have a vag.

>>94914606
>>94914693
Barbara has always had super speed too, so there's no excuse. Like, even without speed force hax, Balent is a fucking idiot.

>>94914800
>evil Lara Croft voiced by Claudia Black
Now that's just not fair.

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>>94914911
I like the shape of Rebirth Cheetah's head, the black cheetah tear marks and the how the cream fur around her mouth and on her chest breaks up all of the yellow
But I miss the red hair and clothes

Ideally she'd have the JL Doom's outfit with some of her nu52 Tribal adornments for texture

>>94898411
Loeb also did it.

>>94915000
The face from your posted pc is perfect but Rebirth Cheetah looks too monkey-ape-gorilla-baboon like IMO.

>>94914956
>Now that's just not fair.
In what way?

>>94914956
>Balent is a fucking idiot

You've only gotta read a page or two of Tarot to know that.

>>94915101
Because Claudia Black's voice is sexy as hell, and I already have a Wondy villain-fu.

>>94915103
I've read at least six or so issues of that shit, and it was fucking painful. It was a group story time thing, for reference.

How the fuck does one escape one's own haunted vagina? And no, it doesn't make any sense in context either.

>>94893763

Brittany Diggers.

>>94896380
>i got to hang out with cheetah cubs years ago

Envy.

>>94899658

Who doesn't?

>>94902415

>Furry bondage

Oh dear.

>>94914800
I prefer it, too. Naked Cheetah kind of weirds me out. Even if you know all the parts you can't show are still there just covered by fur it just makes her look like a barbie doll.

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>"Anon, no ones looking! Gimme a kiss?"
what do?

>>94916004
Run

>>94915772
My man.

>>94893868
>purr
https://youtu.be/ZFvULxbN3NM

>>94916004
I'm confused, is Cheetah asking this or is the cheetah in your pic asking this?

>>94917776
>You will never cuddle with your cute cat-woman hybrid gf
>You will never tentatively stroke her as you would a house cat
>You will never hear her start to purr
>You will never see her surprised, blushing face as you both discover that she can purr

Why live?

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>>94893312
>DC buys the rights
>Now Cheeta is part of a team
>Hit vidya gaem for 2020

>>94909529

I kinda prefer Strife to her for as the petty sorcery user villain.

>>94916004
She says she'll kiss you and then just eat your face off instead. Bitches, man.