>One of the few series that i actually have on my pull list

>July 2017

>Spider-Men II - 67,362
>Amazing Spider-Man - 56,560
>Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man - 54,247

>Renew Your Vows - 25,387

Looks like they don't need any help proving it doesn't sell.

>>94888674
Those are actually really good numbers for an alternate reality book.

>>94888674
What's even happening in Spectacular?

>>94888681
Mayday sold better
DeFalco > Conway

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>>94888752
>Book in the late 90's-early 2000's selling better than one in the current year
Wow what a surpriseand to be honest DeFalco is better than Conway

>>94888731
So, Kingpin is selling people phones that don't have GPSes in them and is advertising it as such. Everything is completely legal. Spider-Man wants to beat him up over this......That's it.

>>94888815
And the tinkerer is behind it all! Mwahahahahaha

>>94888815
>>94890081
And kingpin plans to sell these phones with limited data feed mwahahshshaahahshshahaaa

>>94888013
MC2 > Renew Your Vows

>>94888674
How was miles spiderman selling?

>>94888674
Alt reality books always sell low because continuityfags.

>>94890612
It doesn't really matter since he is SJW Bendis insert

>>94888013
As ok as Renew your vows was I really hate those domino masks couldent they give MJ and Spiderling a mask like ultimate spider woman yknow something that covers the face but exposes the hair while still keeping with the look of spiderman

>>94888013
I Know how you feel OP in fact I was about to open a thread like this one... as you say is not fair, it was a really good book true to OG Spidey...it's a sad time to be a Spiderfag

>>94888674
Spidermen II is an issue #1 and it is selling less than RYV #1 did. Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man is at issue #2 and is about 12k above RYV at issue #2.

Meanwhile, Spider-Gwen is at less than 22k Spiderman 2099 is less than 15k, Spiderverse is cancelled and Silk is cancelled.

Renew Your Vows is pretty much middle of the pack for Marvel at this point, selling around Daredevil, Deathstroke and Punisher levels.

>>94890983
I want to know if it's doing worse than everything else. I don't want to know if it's doing well.

>>94888013
Spidey used to be my favorite. Had subs to his books as a kid, but I no longer give a shit. He's nothing like the character he once was. He's.. BORING. This shit is just somebody wishing they were writing Iron Man so they just changed Peter's life.

>>94888013
Wait, wats happening?

Is RYV not gonna be comfy anymore?

>>94891644
They are changing artists, writers and doing a time skip from this issue onward.

>>94891835
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>94891902
And the writer is the one who wrote Faith the obese superhero

>>94888013
But it's fucking terrible.

>>94891014
I like domino masks, but the color scheme on MJ and Annie? Absolute trash.

>>94892276
It was the last decent book at Marvel. After Conway leaves I'll have no Marvel books on my pull list.

>>94892359
>Thanos
>Rocket
>Guardians
>Dr Strange ATSS (though I believe it's ending, shame)
>Nick Fury
>Whor

You're welcome.

>>94892400
>Modern Guardians
>Nick Fury
>Wor
Haven't read the other ones, so I can't say, but everything else is absolute shit.

>>94892442
What's wrong with Nick Fury?

>>94892449
It's like the shitty part of the Roger Moore years of James Bond.

>>94888674
An AU book with no promotion and no name creators selling that much is pretty good. Doing just as well as or better than shit Marvel actually promotes like Carol and Kamala.

>>94892487
>Conway
>no name creator
Jesus fucking christ. Just because you don't see people shitposting about them 24/7 like Bendis or Slott doesn't mean they're a no name creator. This is fucking CONWAY. The man who wrote one of the most well known and influential Spider-man comics of all time.

>>94892400
What about Daredevil? It's been okay, even if his legal accomplishments in the last arc will never be acknowledged or lost in appeal offscreen.

Fuck. I can see Brevoorts snide tweets now.
>If you all wanted OMD to be undone so bad, why didn't you buy RYV?!? This proves the marriage doesn't work!

>>94892571
For once, I want to see that Perlmutter toadie asswipe get humiliated and knocked down by something, anything.

>>94892524
>no promotion

The book says it all, "hey, you don't like OMD? Here is your book about Peter parker not selling his marriage to satan".

>>94892486
Not a JB fand so that tells me nothing. The paneling and artwork are above and beyond basically any other big two book atm though.

>>94892524
Eh, I'm reading it but I'm not impressed. At least they dropped the shitty sidekick and the recent arc has been a lot more interesting.

>>94892605
More like.
>"FINE! I'll write your marriage story, but out of spite to show you how bad it is."
>*sells well*
>"UGH, fine. We'll make it an going, but we won't announce it in any major way despite it selling incredibly during Secret Wars and did good critically."

>>94888815
They're literally turning Spider-Man into a servant of the surveillance state? Disappointing.

Maybe Spidey will discover someone's tracking him and found out his identity from the cellphone he always seems to carry in costume.

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>>94891835
>>94891911
>And the writer is the one who wrote Faith the obese superhero
No way. While I wouldn't put it past Marvel, this reads too much like a doomsday scenar-

>Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows #13 welcomes writer Jody Houser and artist Nick Roche on board as the series' new creative team for "Marvel Legacy", with outgoing writer/artist Ryan Stegman providing a cover for the issue, due out on shelves in November.

https://www.newsarama.com/36007-amazing-spider-man-renew-your-vows-13-jumps-to-annie-s-teenage-years-in-marvel-legacy.html

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>94892524
Conway in 2017 is a no name creator as most modern fans will not be familiar with him or his Spider-Man runs. He was also gone from Marvel for like 25 years. Happens with most older guys because Marvel/DC don't use the as much, something that Jerry Ordway criticized a few years back.

>>94893962
>modern fans will not be familiar with him or his Spider-Man runs
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that even "modern fans" are familiar with the Death of Gwen Stacy.

>>94894322
But that's a story. Doesn't mean people would know the rest of his runs.

>>94888013
spiderman is already ruined,who cares about this.

>>94888013
Look at that hardcore upstaging, on his own cover, he looks like a wuss. Stronk woman to the rescue, you go girl. Ugh.

>>94894322
They're familiar with it in a background and probably only really know it for the title reason and not the rest of the story (i.e. Peter's mental breakdown and near murder of Norman, their fight and Norman's death, it leading into the Punisher's debut, etc.).

>>94891392
This. You can really only compare drop off points on a same issue number scale.

Has RYV still be dropping or stayed there?

Get it better art

>>94888674
damn, asm is selling like shit these days, used to be one of the highest books

>>94888013
Anyone know if the creative team change is permanent or just for an arc?

wow another Spiderman clone character, really making new ideas there Marvel

>>94892890
>issue #9 was Conway's last
That was a really short run.

It's a shame, the series was so much fun. It was basically Marvel's Superman Rebirth. At least we'll get two good trades out of it. inb4 those rumors were true and they're aging her up just so they can put her in main MCU and give her to Slott.

>>94888013
Glad I'm not the only one who's paranoid as fuck, thinking marvel is trying to sabotage a book that is selling decently as an AU because they're salty about it being a married Peter.

>>94888674
and yet
>Jean Grey 4 26,638
>Punisher 14 25,916
>Daredevil 24 25,519
>Infamous Iron Man 25,451
>All New Guardians of the Galaxy 6 23,277
>Totally Awesome Hulk 21 22,939
>Generation X 4 22,486
>Iron Fist 5 22,420
>Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider 5 22,235
>Jessica Jones 10 21,486
>Spider-Gwen 22 21,372
>Ms marvel, Gwenpool, Hulk (Jen), Captain Marvel, Iceman, and Luke Cage are selling 20k and below
yet pretty sure most of those are gonna continue unhindered for a little while longer.