Will Hasbro ever remember that Beast Wars exists?

>>94887272
>>Repeatedly passed over for fuckin' cars year after year

That is where you lost all credibility as a complainer , furfag

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>>94887344
Oh yeah, because preferring the far cooler animals with guns over normal-fag cars makes me a furfag.

There's more demand for G1-style stuff BECAUSE the Beast Wars toys were superior, OP.

For over twenty years, if you wanted a new Bumblebee or Soundwave or whoever, your options were limited to A) pay out the ass for a G1 brick on eBay, B) pay out the ass for a G1 brick reissue, C) buy a shitty fucking Alternator and pretend you enjoy it, or D) hope that maybe a preexisting Beast/Armada toy would get recolored as that character, maybe as a convention exclusive you'd have to shell out hundreds to get.

Hasbro does go back to the 1984 well a bit too often, but they're also still updating characters who haven't had affordable/quality toys since 1988.

Fuck, compared to all that shit, all you have to do to get quality Beast Wars figures is go to eBay or wherever and fucking BUY BEAST WARS TOYS. The Transmetals are still some of the most solid molds ever.

>>94887526
>There's more demand for G1-style stuff BECAUSE the Beast Wars toys were superior, OP.
Bullshit. Show me one bit of evidence this is the case.

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>>94887272
Animated reboot when? Nostalgiafags would eat it up.

>>94887581
Hell, they could keep all the voices and just update the horribly outdated graphics and I'd fuck the hole in the blu-ray disk

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Hey check this out.

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>>94887629
Kill it with fire.

I think they will revisit beast wars someday, first we are getting new updated headmasters, pretenders and power masters. So my guess is once they are done with updating the older g1 characters they will revisit the beasties. Occasionally we get a random beast character here and there so thats nice.

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Never got the appeal of robots turning into boring-ass cars.

>>94887756
Seriously. How is robots that turn into even less cool robots a selling point?

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Between putting Blackarachnia in everything, the references in Animated, Beast Wars Uprising, the recent Primal and Cheetor MPs and Primal winning the POTP vote, I very much doubt Hasbro's forgotten Beast Wars.

The thing is Beast Wars was a self-contained story, a private war that has little room for new stories unlike G1.

>>94887790
I heard Primal won POTP. I'm hoping this serves as a wake-up call to Hasbro, although now I'm worried it means they'll just cram them into the Bay movies.

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>>94887631
:^)

>>94887854
Is that Megatron?

>>94887629
>>94887854
What is this?

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>>94887810
>now I'm worried it means they'll just cram them into the Bay movies.

they did try.

>>94887877
I've seen that. Way to completely miss the point of them turning into animals in the first place, Bay.

>>94887272
>Killed after getting a shitty sequel
Beast Machines isn't a shitty sequel. Fox Kids fucked up by showing a sequential series like it was a syndicated series (which Beast Wars basically was). So airing the first couple of episodes repeatedly only on Saturdays made it impossible to get into it. Having aggressively ugly designs for the Maximals was also a turn off.

Beast Machines has some shit (but no tf era is spotless), but it's worth marathoning through. It's better than the live action movies, Prime, or RID and the Unicron Trilogy.

>>94888008
Did Beast Machines have a whole plotline of Silverbolt having amnesia and being a prick?

>>94888034
Yes

>>94888034
Half the Vehicons were brainwashed into being pricks, and Silverbolt was one of them.

>>94888053
That's basically the only thing I remember from that show.

>>94888147
They fucked up by not swapping the role of Rhinox and Optimus imo.

>>94887580
I mean, there's the objective fact that the BW toys had ball-socket joints and shit, and the anecdotal evidence that I've been in TF fandom for decades, and all that fans were asking for on the old usenet forums and e-mail groups was "I wish they'd do G1-style toys with Beast-level articulation and design." Car Robots gave fans a tease of that.

Classics finally gave fanboys what they wanted in 2007, and what was intended to just be a placeholder line until the movie line was out has sold well enough, it's still going strong a decade later, even longer than the ACTUAL G1 TOYLINE. Nerds really, really want versions of G1 characters, even the most obscure ones, that aren't fucking plastic bricks that have the delicacy of faberge eggs after so many years.

I loved Beast Wars too, but the show, unlike G1, doesn't have any real room to grow or develop or add characters without ruining it. Literally every attempt at doing like a Beast Wars "expanded universe" have been at best, pale shadows of the actual show, at worst, actively ruining it with fanwank and dumb retcons. The neo-BW toys that Hasbro has put out are, at best, on par with their similarly priced counterparts from back then, or at worst, shit like Universe Cheetor.

When you strive to do "G1 but better" in any form, the bar is set pretty low. But with BW, I just can't see any big "push" not being a disappointment compared to the original.

TL,DR: don't mess with perfection

>>94887756
Some cars aren't boring.

And they turned into plenty of shit besides cars. You got your fighter jets, your space shuttles, your trains, your tractor trailers and yes, your animals and dinosaurs. Sometimes the dinosaurs turned into cassette tapes and shit!

See, that's what I'd like to see, more vehicle/technology/beastie mix-ups, not just nuRiD style 'cons but triple-changers with a beast mode and a proper vehicle mode, like Transmetals pretended to have. I also like that Transmetal/G1 metallic-beast-mode aesthetic way more than "it's a robot but wears real fur/leather parts that have to be awkward shellforming panels"

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>>94887872
A very early design ya.

>>94887873
Bonus feature of a DVD I have. Shows off tons of original character models and other cool shit.

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>>94887272
Then support the releases of Beast War toys you moron.
>Generations Waspinator 2013
>Generations Rattrap 2014
>Generations Rhinox 2014
>MP Optimus Primal 2016
>MP Cheetor 2017
>MP re-release Optimus Primal 2017
>Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus Prime 2018

What if they re-animated all the episodes with contemporary CG but kept the same scripts, sounds, and voices?

>>94888410
No. The technology was limited, but Mainframe worked their asses off to make it as good as it was. A modern attempt at re-doing the animation would lean too heavily on the laurels of the technological advancements and not enough effort would go into the actual human effort of the job. It would have nicer models, but jerky, stilted and unimpressive movement.

>>94887580
didn't the 3d models for the show get used as reference for the toys? or vise versa?

>>94888410
Why bother?

>>94888463
Same reason you'd do a reboot: to reach a new young audience. Except in this case there'd be less risk of new writers fucking it up.

>>94888379
To be fair - to be fair - I'm like 90% sure the tojos at TakaraTomy decide who gets an MP, but them taking a break from their nonstop G1 nostalgia is pretty noteworthy in and of itself.

And the PoTP Optimus Primal was the winner of a fan-poll. It's still telling he was an option at all though, and hopefully they'll see his winning as sanction to make more BW homages in toy form.

>>94887595
>they could keep all the voices and just update the horribly outdated graphics
Ideally this is what would be done. It'd shut the mouths of those who say they can't watch it due to the graphics, and bring in a new audience with it's solid characters and storytelling.

>>94888494
Young audiences can just watch the original.
>WAAAAH BUT THE COMPUTER ANIMATION HASN'T HELD UP
Fuck off. You are literally the reason that LCD remakes get made, because fuckin chads don't wanna watch the original Total Recall, movies with practical effects are for homos.

>>94888499
>It'd shut the mouths of those who say they can't watch it due to the graphics
Or, y'know, they can shut their own mouths by choking on my dick.

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It's too bad many are stuck with the NTSC DVDs, which suffer from muted colors, blurriness, and overall poor video quality compared to the PAL (Madman) release.

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>>94888379
honestly I'd love to see a return of the fuzors even if it was nothing but a run of the more popular characters and toys from the original run
>Quickstrike
>Silverbolt
>Tigerhawk
>Air Hammer
>Bantor
>Terragator
>Etc.

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>>94887272
fo real

>>94888679
Those first three are the only Fuzors anybody gives a shit about for obvious reasons.

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>>94888701
Airhammer, Bantor, Terragator were 3 of the more popular nontv show toys, they've popped up in various BW related EU stuff since then.

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>>94887272
>When will they realize we want munky not trukk?
Speak for yourself. I want the next level

>>94888679
>>94888734
But again, those toys were already done well once. You can get them on eBay for less than 10 bucks loose.

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>>94887272
I recently started re watching this show and just made it into season 2. the first season i remember nearly every episode from when i was a kid, but alot of season 2 and 3 escapes me. feels good like im watching it again for the first time. such an incredible show.
>tfw everytime i watch the season 2 intro i see my favorite character fucking die.

>>94887581
I just want Shout Factory to release Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo in English.

>>94887272
>still nowhere with a good quality stream

>>94887581
Best ship or beast ship?

Why not make a compromise?
Giant cars and airplanes that transform into robot animals.

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>>94887272
>Vastly superior toys
That is not Animated, retard.

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>>94887581
>Animated reboot when?
Sorry. Season 4 was cancelled

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>>94887526
>The Transmetals are still some of the most solid molds ever.

Uhhh.

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>>94890792
>Giant cars and airplanes that transform into robot animals.

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>>94887272
Hasbros too busy making shitty toys and bayformer movies to care about making something actually good

>>94890792
So you want the Sky-Lynx and Trypticon show?

>>94891022
>TFW i spent 75$ for a boxed version because i wanted a best wars megatron and it fucking crumbled when i got it out of the box. Thank god the LCS that sold me it gave me a refund.

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>>94891075
>making shitty toys
>care about making something actually good
The fuck are you talking about?!

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>>94891075

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>>94891106
>Not wanting 85 episodes just like Call of the Primitives with random shots drawn by Obari

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>>94891136
Thats just takara, hasbro killed all their 3.34 lines and replaced them with 5POA shit because some 6 inch loving cock sucking faggot bitch got in charge of their marvel toys and spilled over into starwars. I fucking hate hasbro and think both the marvel, star wars, and gi joe because they treat it like shit, licsences should be given to a company that will actually make good toys of those properties again.

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>>94891178
>that will actually make good toys of those properties again.
Better than the shit Kenner use to churn out back in the day

>>94891208
>actually well sculpted, painted, and didnt feel like hollow shit
Its still superior, but fuck 5POA regardless

>>94891178
Why did they make a black rebel soldier for both force awakens and rogue one

>>94891220
Because of hasbros diversity bullshit they have to make the standard good guy soldier into a fucking black cunt and take away a figure slot that couldve been an imperial or a cool alien

>>94891244
Sorry, meant for >>94891238

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>>94891178
>Thats just takara
Takara design all the TF CHUG figures that get release in the west. Hasbro just distributes. And If the BW Fandom supported the releases (all except Blackarachnia) there could have been more.

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Also with the upcoming MP Dinobot. Hasbro/Takara has released a modernize toy of all season 1 Maximals in the last 3 years.
Just to keep that feat in perspective the G1 Dinobots are going to get a modern release next year in Power of the Primes line (32 years)

>>94891272
Hasbro doesnt release masterpeice anymore. Also
>thinking i want a clunky foot tall unplayable 200+$ figure
I want good 3.34 figures back and im going to call dwight stall a ballless cuck for killing the marvel universe line when i see him at the hasbro panel at NYCC2017. I will film it too and post it here. Your welcome in advance

>>94891339
>Hasbro doesnt release masterpeice anymore.
Where the hell do you pull your facts out of?! Hasbro US is re-releasing MP-10 stateside in 2017
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-to-release-masterpiece-mp10-optimus-prime/38368/
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/15/hasbro-masterpiece-mp-10-optimus-prime-annoucement-341832
>Thinking Masterpieces sell for $200+
Do you live in a 3rd world country or Australia? MPs can be ordered for $75 easily from toysrus, bbts, etc.

>>94891494
There size is still a big turn off. I dont hate masterpeices like say legends or black series, and actually i think transformers is the one line hasbro has yet to rape beyond repair, but i still fucking hate how people still back them up and say that there a good company. Hasbro hasnt been good since 2012.

>>94890817
What is this???

I've never liked Transformers animated so i didnt watched it, also i never watched any other transformers besides G1 and BW, am i missing on some good TF???

>>94892134
>What is this?
The beginning of a new beast wars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcEauLEN7Qg

>am i missing on some good TF???
You are missing the best TF.

>>94888362
I miss when dvds used to have lots of special features like that

>>94892280
Apart from TF animated, are there any other good TF cartoons you recommend??

*i want to watch some of it, i really like TF but with college and work i didnt have the time for it

>>94892680
Transformers Prime is pretty damn solid.

>>94892680
Car Robots is okay if you can find it subbed.

Not its dub, the Robots in Disguise dub sucks.

>>94887272
Who is that in front of Depth Charge and original Cheetor?

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Just dropping in to say this was the best toy I ever had.

>>94892924
The dude on the far left? Transmetal 2 cheetor.

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>>94892924
Transmetal 2 Cheetor

When they started becoming transmetal 2s is when I realized that it was just a gimmick to sell more toys.

>>94892965
While I don't like the T2Cheetor design, I think it's interesting that it somewhere serves as a bridge between the original Beast War designs and the stuff they went with in Beast Machines.

>>94888741
Well that's just Prime.

>>94892953
>>94892965
Fuck I apparently blocked that out of my memory.

>>94893012
It was 3rd season only and turned Cheetor into a moody teen, so I don't blame you.

>>94888741
>Actively seeking Botcon exclusives
Theres only, like, five worth doing that and thats not one.

>>94889787
Subs would be fine even. I don't expect a distribution company to go through the whole job of dubbing.

>>94891272
So much want for that BA.

>>94887891
But muh King Kong.

>>94888362
Blackarachnia or Tarantulas? Hard to tell with those big pecks/tits.

>>94891272
Takara and Hasbro collab on mainline figures. Exclusives and Masterpiece are definitely all Takara.

>>94891331
I hope he' head and shoulders taller than Primal.
I should start visiting /toy/ again.

>>94887385
So long as you're aware of it.

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>when the beast-former uses it's animal limbs as robot limbs either by adding the robot bit onto them or folding one away and the other out
It's just so lazy.
>when they use the animal's head as the chest
Granted that can look cool, but it's so common like any car-former with the hood as it's chest or doors as wings/backpack.

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The japs are constantly referencing Beastwars and Animated in their comic.

>dat Sari

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>>94893399
Oh boi. Also, who is the cute, green girl?

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>>94887581
Never. You're stuck with Bay junkyardformers and mute Bumblebee.

>>94893636
Prime was only one of those things and Bee has been talking a up a storm the last four or so years.

>>94893636
Hey now I love BW but Prime is pretty damn good too.

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>>94887581
I just want Scott McNeil in a good show again

>>94892680
Nope, animated is the last one good or passable, the rest is pure cancer

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>>94894114
>Geewun is good they said
>It's the best of the best shows they said

It only has a good movie and even that is a SW rip-off.

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>>94890776
Their love is pure.

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>>94894015
>just found out he also voiced Silverbolt too

Man, BW really was just him talking to himself.

>>94893138
its tarantulas

>>94894370
You say it like it's a bad thing

>>94891106
Sure, why not? Those were cool bots.

>>94887344
As much as I prefer beast wars, the animals do look worse then the vehicles.

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>>94887272
i was lurking this thread when i was incredibly tired last night. i ended up having a dream that i had a crazy high quality Rampage figure.

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>>94895535
I dreamt of a high quality RiD Grimlock once, it hurts to think about it

>>94887272
Beast Wars was what really got me into Transformers. Not exactly the furry gimmick but it has some great writing.
https://youtu.be/ExohzEcQX9Q?t=40

BW already told these character's stories, or they were finishes enough that it wasn't worth revisiting them without re-treading old ground.

>>94895500
>>94895529
GALVATRON AND ARCEE ARE SIBLINGS

>>94892965
I like the Transmetal 2 look

Who is the best human character in the franchise?

>>94899393
Captain Fanzone

>>94899393
Profesor Sumdac. The CIA guy from the movies is cool too

>>94887580
Proof that the BW toys were better, or they made people want more G1 style stuff? They were better because they had nicer articulation. They made people want G1 style stuff with that articulation.

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>>94889621
>i see my favorite character fucking die.
Terrorsaur was Starscream Lite but always a screw-up. Tarantulas was Starscream 2.0 and actually got shit done.

>>94892965
TM2 Cheetor felt like such a downgrade in both aesthetics and mobility compared to TM Cheetor.

>>94897207
yeah I think that's where that plot point is going. Its two on the nose (Double Swords/Arcee & Axe/Galvatron)

>>94900290
Agree, he went from having flight with his TM1 body to really fast hover running with his TM2 body.

>>94901287
I guess it was a bit of a trade-off. Cheetor lost a bit of speed for more resilience and offensive power. TM2 still looks butt-ugly though.

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The TM2 toys were kind of lackluster. Losing the 3rd alt mode that the TM1 line had really devalued them in my eyes. The only great TM2 toys were the Ultra class Megatron and Tigerhawk.

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>>94901950
Seeker Waspinator was a fun toy. Plus TM1 Tarantulas was the bee's knees, still have mine chilling next to Armada Sideways. Fellow Unicron spawns have to stick together

>>94901950
The only thing TM2 had going for was the crazy detailed and asymmetrical molding the toys had.

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Check it out. I made a new cast for Beast Wars

Mechanical animals>vehicles>realistic animals
There's a reason why nobody likes Vehicle Voltron

>>94902162
>Insect Maximal
Nigga

>>94902162
if you adding Jamie Hyneman you gotta add Adam

>>94902201
>Dinosaur Maximal
>Shark Maximal

>>94902201
>Squid Maximal
>Frog Maximal
>Spider Maximal
>Raptor Maximal
>Shark maximal

>>94902230
plesiosaurs aren't dinosaurs

>>94902255
Dinobot.
Grimlock

Two raptors on the Maximal side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKErvQFqasI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OveTbUBqj-w

>>94902244
Then there's the whole Ciciada, Lobster, Preying Mantis, Weavil, Dragonfly, Mosquito, Crab and Rhinoceros Beetle that joined them for a bit in in Neo...

>>94902201
They had a drunk Cobra on their team for a long ass time. What the fuck are you on about.

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Who had this

>>94902382
Yeah I did, for a Supreme Class in the BM toyline it had one of the most simplistic transformations.

>>94901950

>Cybershark

This shit always confused me because this Shark dude was a Beastwars toy, but then out of nowhere hes in Transformers:RID as SKybyte and is a bumbling team rocket style henchman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6PZze8wGyI

>>94902483
Shark was confused too. He was a good guy, was a fucking hammer head shark, suddenly gained twenty tons and turned into a Great White, then was a bad guy.

>>94902033
The Armada recolors of the Transmetals are great too if you want to own them without eventually succumbing to metallic flaking, although mine personally haven't flaked all that much for 20 years old.

>>94902483
All the RiD Predacons except for Megatron were redecos of TM2 toys, and you gotta admit that mold is way more fitting as a villain, even a bumbling comic villain.

The thing is, TM2 Cybershark was a huge shelf-warmer, at least around here, so you'd see the two piles stacked right next to each other. It was surreal.

>>94902382
im still have it

>>94901950
Trying to find a Blackarachnia was damn near impossible; the only one I ever found my mom got me as a birthday gift. I just wish it wasn't so big.

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how did optimus get trapped in here?

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>>94902911
Megatron booby trapped it to get Tarantulas, but got Optimus as a sweet consolation prize.

>yfw you can hear Optimus breaking out moments before impact

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>Four year old me
>Used to wake up at fucking six in the morning to watch Ducktales and Beast Wars in syndication whiling eating frozen waffles
>McDonald is giving away BW and MLP toys
>Really wanted a Dinobot toy
>Every fucking time I went I got a MLP toy
>To this day I've never gotten a Dinobot toy despite him still being my favorite TF

>>94903036
was it shown? i dont remember seeing him tamper with the pod.

>>94901950
I had Scourge but could never fucking figure out how to transform him. He just sort of sat in a transitional state at the bottom of my toybox until he was finally thrown away.

Thoughts of Toy Story-esque intelligent toys fill me with dread -- the idea that he was trapped there, buried under a mountain of LEGO bricks, malformed and crippled into impotence...

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>>94903095
For about a hundred dollars you'll have another chance.

>>94903036
I never thought about that,that is so fucking brilliant, Megatron was such a schemer.

>>94903136
Not directly I think, been a while since I've seen season 1, but Megatron was watching Tarantulas after he took the empty pod

>>94895500
>>94895529
>Galvatron and Arcee were siblings
>Septimus Prime, IDW Primes aren't a perfect match of Aligned Primes
>Megatronus looks like Prime!Megatron
Good shit.

>>94887272

When 80sfags finally go away and stop shoving the shitty toy commercial they grew up on down our throats.

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>>94901950
>be like 6 or 7
>parents know I love Beast Wars, usually got one for birthdays/Christmas
>Dad wakes me up super early before he has to go upstate for a meeting that'll last all day
>shows me a surprise in the dining room
>Scourge figure on the table
>so excited I got right into playing it didn't want to go back to bed
>play with it for months and months with my other toys
>over the years half of them go missing, either from kids coming over and possibly stealing them or they'd somehow get thrown out when we had big cleanups in the house
>Scourge was one of them
>find an afforable one on Amazon a couple of months ago
>buy it and feel happy to have it again, but still feel bittersweet because it wasn't the one my dad got me so there's no sentimental value and I feel bad

I'm so sorry dad

18 year old here.
How can you people still watch this shit?
The weapon sound effects sound like nerf guns and the pterosaur Predacon looks like it's literally pulling a gun out of his ass

>>94904775
One should rarely try to relive such cherished memories after they have passed, because that cheapens them due to a shallow desire to just relive some excitement.

>>94904999
>18 year old here
Well that explains it

>>94905047
Oh I know anon. It's just because the original figure holds value to me it just felt off when I got it again.
I love it all the same but there's always that feeling in the back of the head ya know?

>>94905047
tbqhwy familia I'd feel bad too if my dad bought something cool for me only for it to disappear to time
I mean what can ya do shit happens but I get where that anon is coming from

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>>94902911
That was such a fucking intense cliffhanger.
I remember being so eager for the next Saturday morning

>>94902382

It was a real piece of shit, couldn't even stand.

>>94905047
same, I was desperate to feel nostalgic again (I always cringe at how dumb and annoying I was as a kid) so I looked up stuff that'd make me feel nostalgic.
This led to me watching old commercials on the internet as I felt nothing

>>94887272
>munky not trukk

Optimus Primal has nothing to do with Optimus Prime. Stop pretending that he does.

3D
Realism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BoIuelg38

>>94888034
Yes, and it was AWFUL.

>>94888559
Wow, somebody fucked up.

>>94905145
They're 90% of the same character though
I mean, you could swap them out and no one would notice, aside from the obvious

>>94893012
That's understandable. He was only around for 6 of 52 episodes.

>>94902911
Big bot yelling Megatron's name gave child me chills!

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>>94893399
holy FUCK.

>>94904999
because its a good show?

>>94903136
>>94902911

It's a long story. Basically, Megatron had backdoor'd into Tarantulas' computer/lair. He "sent" Blackarachnia to distract Tarantulas. Meanwhile, he added code to the transwarp cell that Tarantulas had stolen.

This transwarp cell would be used to power the stasis pod, and the code that Megatron had added would seal the pod.

>>94891022
the mold was good, the materials were shit.

>>94887272
>Had some of the worst transformations
>Some figures made G1 toys look good by comparison
>mutant heads gimmick often sucked
>often poor sculpting on faces
>shell-formers as far as the eye could see.
>some figures couldn't even stand and had parts hanging off like crazy.
>only remembered fondly because it had a good cartoon

Beast Wars was one of the worst periods in the toy line. Growing up with the emd of G1 and then getting G2, it felt like someone took a shit in my mouth when I got my first Beast Wars figure. I was around 8-10 years old, and the only good looking ones were Razorbeast, Dinobot, and Optimus Primal. The rest were all fiddly messes that made me miss G1. The line didn't get really good until Transmetals, because it got rid of much of the shell-forming, by making the beast modes look mechanical so they blended in better for transformations.

The series then killed itself with Beast Machines. Ugly figures, ugly bot modes. The people behind the series wanted to ban guns from the series so there was pretty much garbage when it came to weapons.

I like Beast Wars and all, but the people who hype it up are too young to remember how bad it was. There was a reason only a handful of the figures made it in the show... besides the budget that is, and that's because there was a lot of shit.

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>>94893399
>>94893467

>that Sari
>that borderline pantyshot of SG Sari

damn japs

>>94905428
ok makes sense thanks for clearing that up.

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>>94887272
>Doesn't even get a big 20th anniversary celebration
>No remastered Blu-ray collections for Beast Wars or ReBoot
Being a Mainframe Entertainment fan is suffering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsYortvV8zg

Why does the CG in Beast Wars, Reboot, and Veggietales age better than the ones found in Voltron Third Dimension, Cubix, and Butt Ugly Martians?

>Nips did a Beast Wars rap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrAmhT2DmOU

>>94906155
Why are rap songs in languages I don't understand so neat?
https://youtu.be/bwcMBpVXzWM

>>94887272
Optimus Primal might be leading cybertron after Starscream fucks up in First Strike.

>>94905846
nice video

>>94902162
>Long reach has a spring loaded punch gimmick
>You see him use it in the show to brachiate faster
>Even his legs do it, but they also contain canons that you can flip out
>Transformation into robot mode is almost like Primal's, but just in the torso, the leg-canons flip onto the back, and the robot legs flip out from the gut, while the face folds into the chest

>Knuckles antlers have a gimmick that allows them to clasp together like an insect's mandibles

>>94892680

Prime is excellent. It's the best series in terms of quality, both in writing and execution.

Does Beast Wars have a proper ending, or do I have to watch the sequel, which everyone hates for some reason?

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>>94906522

>>94906558
Proper ending.

>>94906255
I don't know, because I have the exact opposite reaction.

>>94906558
It has a proper ending.

>>94906522
Not at all.

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>>94902382

Never owned that one, but I DID own this beautiful creature.

It was great, until one of my brother's idiot friends broke his wing. Didn't even so much as apologize for it.

>>94906592

That's good to know, I'll put it on my list.

>>94905204
>They're 90% of the same character though

They are both the leaders of their respective groups. Otherwise, I completely disagree. I'm talking about G1 OP by the way.

>>94903095
>Every fucking time I went I got a MLP toy
they ask boy or girl

>>94903095

What? They always separated the boy toys from the girl toys. Your parents probably fucked you over my man.

>>94899475
That's how I felt after watching Animated.

>>94899955
His backstory is really good. I like him a lot as well.

>>94900065
Not to mention Chris Latta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug Parker.

>>94904775
Your father didn't buy it so you could treasure it.

He bought it so he could enjoy you enjoying it.

>>94896202
>>94896202
>BW already told these character's stories

This x100. We don't need a retelling of Beast Wars. BUT I see room for a sequel. In fact, that's what my fanfic is! Late in BW, CHEETOR hears Tarantulas say the Tripredacus Council has different origins than Maximals or Predacons. Who is the Tripredacus Council? They are the Predacon leaders on Cybertron - the greater scope villain. Then in BM, Cheetor becomes the Emperor of Cybertron, but only by default, so we have a clear foundation for a story where a downplayed, trivialized Emperor of Cybertron unifies a new Cybertron by saving it from the Tripredacus Council.

>>94888183
I've heard a lot of complaints about Beast Machines, but never that. Explain.

>>94888410
I would be super irritated if their CGI models were off like in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXH9wVLHV5M

>>94887756
>Never got the appeal of robots turning into boring-ass cars.
>>94887756
>>94887767
>Seriously. How is robots that turn into even less cool robots a selling point?


I like Beast Wars as much as the next guy, but do I want the aesthetic to dominate Transformers as a whole? No, it was an interesting experiment that worked for the time.

I don't really see how BW style beastformers makes sense for the entire franchise at all, when the primary gimmick is you know, robots in disguise

Beast wars worked because it was set on a prehistoric Earth landscape and other plot reasons, is that really the only Transformers story you want to be told?

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>>94887671

>>94908329
>Beast wars worked because it was set on a prehistoric Earth landscape and other plot reasons, is that really the only Transformers story you want to be told?
Not really but another show with a similar such gimmick would be nice. Like a post apocholips long after the humans are dead.

>>94905477
I'd rather have articulated Beast Wars figures than the G2 Go-bots. Will never understand the popel who don't care about articulation in figures. BW got me into articulated figures. Its why I collect SHF and Figma now. Yeah there were some articulated G2 toys, but not enough.

>>94909829
Actually thats exactly what the setting for Beast Wars II was.

>>94910314
I liked the idea of BWII but I was never able to get into it. Should I give it another chance or was it just kinda crap?

>>94888679
I love that fucking toy so much

I want to get intro Transformers, where can I find an explanation of the DEEPEST LORE?

>>94910401
Its not really great and doesn't do much with the set up. Its almost weird how many 90's shonen shows blend together despite different settings and genres.

>>94888559
Yeah buddy got all g1 and beast wars here in Australia didn't get that masterforce stuff though

>>94905477
Bullshit.I grew up with bW and still like the figures. Wouldn't have watched the cartoon if not for the toys.

Beast Wars is far superior to the G1 show in every way
>Megatron isn't an idiot
>Characters die during the show
>That twist that they're on prehistoric earth

>>94891145
Fuck that's so good

BWfags are the most annoying fags

>>94906609
I've still got mine with his box, same as depth charge and optimal Optimus right next to my g1 megatron

>>94907088
They're dependents of Unicron

I remember this being the hypest shit. When the series started doing timeline stuff, it really got good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9t7G_lHeiY

>>94910672
Keep crying.

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TFA Had a cool take on Waspinator

>>94910762
Beast Wars had lots of hype as fuck moments.
This thread is circlejerking a little bit, but man it was such a good show

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>>94910866
TFA Had a cool take on everyone and everything

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>>94910965
Kek, wrong file.

>>94905204
They are very distinct, prime is more sapient and calm (and better warrior), primal take more risks and try don't fuck with the planet and live (prime explode a entire forest in G1 and only Jazz complain about).

>>94908329
>when the primary gimmick is you know, robots in disguise
BW is still robots in disguise, they're in disguise as animals. If anything the tagline is even more relevant because you'd *expect* a robot to turn into something at least vaguely robotic looking. If a rat just turned into a tiny robot you'd be surprised as fuck

>>94908288
So here's my thought. Unmarked spoilers for anyone who cares.
In the show, Rhinox goes missing and Primal becomes the spiritual leader of the surviving Maximals. Rhinox is revealed to be brainwashed Tankor, who now seemingly revels in being evil.
Now imagine those rolls flipped. Maximals wake up on Cybertron and
>holy fuck where's optimus?
Rhinox, as the second in command and the one who *literally pulled primals spark out of the matrix* becomes the spiritual leader of the group, with Cheetor assuming the roll of battle commander like he does in the original show. Eventually it's revealed that megatron brainwashed Primal into being Tankor, delighting in turning the brilliant tactician and his hated enemy into a dumb brute built only to serve him. This also helps avoid the bullshit that is "Rhinox totally wanted to be evil" because we all know a prime never *really* turns evil. So then when he rejects their offer for help it plays as a sign that Megatron has broken him so completely that he's no longer the Primal that they once knew and is essentially dead.

>>94906558
If anything the sequel fucks up a perfectly good ending, so I'd avoid it unless you just really have to have more.

>>94906522
I agree, Prime is my second favorite transformers show behind BW.

>>94905477
Obvious bait, but even if it's not, Hasbro would have shuttered the entire Transformers line if not for the massive success of BW. So even if you're retarded opinion is genuine, you can thank BW for the fact that you have any Transformers anything post-BW

>>94902366
You talking about Quickstrike?

>>94910640
As far I love G1 (have great episodes and a beautiful and smart anti-war mensage) and the original movie (still my favorite animated movie) , megatron and the Dinobot dilema make BW really shine.

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>>94906506

>>94911260
Transformers probably would've come back, but it would've been a niche reboot like what He-Man and Gi Joe got, doomed to die witht heir fanbase. BW helped set up Transformers as an evergreen franchise, and all the engineering developed in that period helped build up to what we see now. A lot of Beast Wars engineers at Takara are still with the company, some even working on the MP line.

>>94911188
To continue, it also adds some ambiguity to why Tankor cares so much about taking down Megatron. Is he really just a free agent now looking to usurp his former master, or does some bit of his old spark know that it's a prime's job to defeat megatron?

>>94887272
reaction if Mairghread Scott finally writes the injector special?

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>>94910299
>Will never understand the popel who don't care about articulation in figures.

You're retarded or too young to remember G2. G2 introduced high articulation and ball joints to the line.

https://youtu.be/NdG2IS6vzHQ
https://youtu.be/1kx1AoFG9wA
https://youtu.be/sHiWI9xy-js
https://youtu.be/Cs7kAmY21Dw

>One of the appeals of Transformers was that they were moderately huge robots
>Optimus Primal is 9 feet tall

>>94912873
You ever see a 30 feet tall gorilla?

>>94912873
He's still cool though

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>>94912927
25 feet

>>94912873
Despite being much smaller than the regular Transformers, I never really got the impression that in Beast Wars they were all that small.
Well, except for when they break into the Ark, but then it their smallness worked because it jived with the importance of the Autobots

>>94913014
>Rattrap is 1.8 meters tall
>TFW taller than Rattrap

>>94912873
The main appeal was that they fucking transformed.

>>94912772
You're too retarded to read the last line of my post where I say that G2 had some articulated toys. beast Wars made it into a standard.

>>94913217
No. The appeal are the giant robots

>>94913356
No, the appeal was that they were both. Giant robots and animals are both cool, having one that turns into the other is even cooler.

>>94913382
>Maximals and Predacons
>Giant

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>>94913232
>But muh Beast Wars articulation

G2 had about as many high articulated figures as the first release of Beast Wars and they did it better.

https://youtu.be/rhOQpF4_RjQ

>>94913408
The giant part is optional.

>>94913466
Here's the thing, though, EVERY figure had reasonable articulation, and much more than common action figures did at the time. G2 may have had 10 to 15 decently articulated figures ina period of 3 years, intermixed with limited articulated bricks. BW came out the gate with everything being decently posable, in a time where 5-7 POA and hinge joints were standard.

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>>94913382
>having one that turns into the other is even cooler.
No. Nothing is cooler than a vehicle that turns into a giant robot. The animal thing is boring and ugly as fuck.

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>>94913627

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>>94913663
The truth hurts doesn't it

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i still got the big first version of beast war megatron
purple t-rex mode. you could even put water in the t-rex head when you put it robot mode

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>>94913836
No, just impressed/disgusted by your shit taste.

>>94913872
>Vehicles
>Fast, powerful, can carry explosive weapons
>Animals
>Shit, sleep, fuck, and have mundane offensive means for the most part

>>94913922
>Vehicles
>Literally common, every day and boring objects that most people own
>Animals
>Considered cool and semi-mythical from ancient times, and are rare enough you have to go to a zoo to see the cool ones

>>94913964
>Truck vs Gorilla
>Gorilla gets run over into mush

>>94913985
Both of them can turn into laser pistol wielding robots in this case so I fail to see how that's relevant

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>>94913985
The gorilla would just get the fuck out of the way
Or in the case of pic related make it his bitch

>>94903095
Your parents were trying to make you a tranny

>>94914012
>Gorilla
>Being faster than a truck

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I remember when i was a kid and i saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9t7G_lHeiY
it was so fucking hype
and fuck, this still giving me chills
i miss this series so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMiBRzWvuk

>>94893467
Looks like it's Lyzak, Leozak's twin sister from the Victory manga and FunPub fiction.

>>94893201
TRUKK NOT MUNKY!

>>94894370
>voices Dinobot, Rattrap, Silverbolt, and fucking Waspinator
>IRL is basically a cowboy
How can one man be so many things to so many people?

>>94905477
>>only remembered fondly because it had a good cartoon

There isn't a board I hold in lower regard than /toy/

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>>94913565
>BW came out the gate with everything being decently posable

Except most of the figures were ugly and not fun to play with, as I mentioned before. Articulation isn't the be all end all when judging the line. They usually had lots of fiddly shell parts that hung off them, mutant face gimmicks that didn't look good and usually bad head sculpts in general. The only ones that were semi decent usually had the spring loaded quick change gimmick, and those were often lame hollow messes. There was probably only three good deluxe figures in the first wave: Dinobot, Tarantulas, and Waspinator.

There was literally more bad figures than good until Transmetals came out and those made the figures more mechanical looking to get rid of the shell parts.

Just look at Bonecrusher, he's an ugly mess. I had most of the line early line as a kid, and figures like this were all over the place and never made it into the show for good reason.

>>94901950
>TM Dinobot

That fucking figure was way too damn top heavy for it's legs. Fuck that was frustrating as a child. Couldn't post him without him falling over in a few seconds.

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>>94913964
>a BIG, powerful and attractive war machine vs a little, shitty animal
>"Both of them can turn into laser pistol wielding robots in this case so I fail to see how that's relevant"
Furfags are delusional

>>94914215
Scott McNeill was basically THE cartoon male voice of the 90s, guy had a role in everything

>>94887272
>Literally saves the entire franchise
It only "saved" the franchise because G2 was so low effort, first two years full of re-issues, no new TV show, just re-runs, and running up against Power Rangers.

Honestly, had Beast Wars not existed, Armada in some form or another may have hit in the 21st century anyway to coincide with the 80's nostalgia boom. That was the real savior of the franchise, despite having one of the crappiest dubs imaginable.

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>tfw I had almost every Beast Wars toy
>Most of them were just the tv characters
>Brother was a manager at Toys R Us and held them back for me
>Played with them every single day
>Be a teenager and go through a TOYS ARE FOR KIDS phase
>Throw most of them away
>Years later live in regret

At least I kept TM Primal and Megatron.

>>94888034
>>94888055
What they did to fucking Rhinox was unforgivable

>>94914352
Can't help but notice that neither of those characters use their "cool" vehicle mode in the webm and instead choose to fight as robots

>>94914334
>Except most of the figures were ugly and not fun to play with, as I mentioned before

Again,to you, not to 7 year old me.

Articulation isn't the be all end all when judging the line
Again, to you

>Just look at Bonecrusher, he's an ugly mess.
He looks like a cool robot monster man to me.

Again, these are all opinions, not facts. You may not like the sculpts, or cry shelforming, but I certainly was fine with the toys. They appealed to me as a kid who liked Guyver, TMNT, Jurassic Park, etc. It was the right line for the right time, managing to keep Transformers relevent in a time where other 80's properties were dying.

>>94913964
>>Literally common, every day and boring objects that most people own
>most people own an F-1 race car, a fighter jet, a goddamn tank
C'mon man, you're embarassing yourself.

You may go "Yeah well the Autobots are still mostly ordinary cars", but you're forgetting who buys plain old Autobot cars - kids! Kids who don't and CAN'T own or drive their own cars. I'm sorry your childhood was spent """playing""" with Rover in your parents' home movies or whatever, but most boys played with Hot Wheels and other toy cars, because it was the closest you could get to driving for what feels like an eternity.


Sure nowadays you can drive all of those in video games, but that's part of the general replacement of physical playthings with digital ones.

>>94914475
See my theory on what they should have done >>94911188

>>94914527
I had the Beast War toys because they were objectively better. And you're telling me you DIDN'T want a bet cheetah or gorilla when you were a kid? Not even a monkey butler or something? Fucking chad.

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The thing is, their engineers have gotten a LOT better at doing the near-impossible to make goodlooking robots out of seemingly impossible source altmodes

but in the last few years they have resigned themselves to only 80s-esque one-step bricks because they only want the tiny tiny kid market

>>94914551
when I was a kid I hated cars and boats and shit (I still do. tanks and jets are okay) and I made up my own transformers who were animals. i mostly based them on my transforming ninja turtles figures, so mostly just heads and hands swapped around

>>94914334
fuck you bonecrusher is cool. one of the best
japan had even better ones even if they often resorted to shellforming

>>94894370
remember that time he ate his own clone? though i'm not sure how that clone.. made any sense.

>>94914334
That's actually pretty fucking badass. I didn't even know there was a Bison transformer.

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>>94914334
Holy shit he fires dildos out of his mouth

>>94914637
More like POONCRUSHER.

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>>94914551
>you're telling me you DIDN'T want a bet cheetah or gorilla when you were a kid?
No. I wanted pic related

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>>94914663
>would rather be out pounding his enemies

>>94914637
That's fucking hilarious

>>94889787
You'll never get any of them dubbed in English. If Hasbro would not front money to get the G1 Japanese exclusive shows a decent English dub, they won't give the red headed stepchildren shows (BW2 and Neo).

And that's not even counting the fact that one of the two Japanese only BW shows (IIRC Neo) has a LOT LOT LOT of racist comedy in it (several of the secondary Maximals on the show are portrayed as lazy, drunk Mexican cliches that you'd NEVER be able to get away with in the US, especially today).

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>>94914421
>Armada in some form or another may have hit in the 21st century anyway to coincide with the 80's nostalgia boom.

Just like He-man and Gi Joe's reboots succeeded, right? Armada wasn't created in a vacuum, it owes a lot to stuff learned from the decade TF continued to exist, even if part of it was going against the Beast era. The simplified designs were based in part over backlash over RiD's complex transformations, which themselves were based off Beast wars Neo era engineering. The Beast era also helped reserve a set space for a number of products at retail stores, and established the size classes and rebranding practices that are still used to this day.

Gi Joe and He-man were remade without any real guide as to how to make those series relavent, and both failed because they ddin't have the experience to tell them making a million He-man and skeletors wouldn't work, or how to make the Joe designs more appealing to modern kids. The only franchise that really managed to survive a long period of deadness was TMNT.

>>94891022
The repaints and Japanese version of the mold don't have the GPS issue

>>94914709
TMNT has never been dead, they've been making that shit pretty much constantly since the 80s

>>94914709
TF is alive because Bay.

My problem with animal forms isn't that they're animals.
It's that they're generic animals.
I like Dinobots and Insecticons because their animal forms were still blatantly mechanical.
Even the Nips got this right with their Beast Wars equivalent as seen by the likes of the Seacons

>>94914757
No, TF is normie shit now because Bay.

>>94914334
>And never made it into the show for good reason.

Because he was a second year figure, and not many of those made it onto the show outside of the repaints(because they're easier to remodel from existing CGI) besides Inferno(who was a more expensive figure). Not some of your own ass-drawn facts about him being too ugly, they would've probably made his CGI model better proportioned, anyway.

All the second year toys that didn't get into the show were largely adapted for Beast wars II over in Japan.

>>94914734
No, they were dead for a short time between next mutation and 2k3. There were still toys available, but just reissues, not new stuff, and only at KB. I grew up around that dead period.

>>94914778
>TF is normie shit now because Bay.

TF has always been normie shit. It was one of the most popular cartoons of the 1980's. Don't pretend it was some cult thing.

>>94914778
>G1 and BW
>not normie shit

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>>94914774
I like mecha beasts, but more like Zoids and Transmetals. I really don't like the blocky G1 beasts. Insecticons barely look like the insects they're based on; they're blocks with legs and antenna.
In Japan, Beast wars II was heroic organic Beasts vs vehicles and cyborg beasts.

>>94914819
Transformers has largely been ignored until the Bay movies, and sometimes still is

Most people have no idea Transformers continued after the late 80s and think you are the nerdiest of nerds for liking something based on a toyline, the Bay movies have made it so at least your average jock goes OH, YOU MEAN THE MOVIES WITH MEGAN FOX?

>>94914910
The Bay movies made the brand relevant again, yes. But Transformers were STILL part of the pop-cult zeitgeist. You need to consider that during the 90's and 00's, the primary consumer was Gen X who were kids in the 80's, watching this show. The parents as well. Younger folk who were teens in the 00's, not as much. But the bulk of culture new what the fuck Transformers were.

>>94904999 (wasted trips)
Another 18 year old here to tell you you're full of shit. I appreciate it for what it is. So what if it's a bit cheesy on the effects, it's still a decent story.

>>94914910
Most people are also adults, not kids who buy transformers toys, which is the market Hasbro cares about.

>>94910866
No they didn't.

>>94910965
No.

Waspinator and Blackarachnia were perfect in BW. We don't need any reincarnations of them.

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>>94915549
Stay mad

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I want more Botanica

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>>94915838
Is there art of Primal?

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>animated Cheetor is a car
Really makes you think

>>94902162
>mudflap
Ha.

Hasbro knows BW has a huge fan. They did a big re-issue for the tenth anniversary, gave Black Arachnia a huge role in TF Animated, and have made IDW start incorporating BW characters into IDW's new G1 canon (Rhynox, Rat Trap, Dinobot, Airrazor, Tigetron, Cheetor, Black Arachnia, Tarantula, the Mana Ray Happy Meal BW toy are main characters, with Rat Trap himself heavily featured as a villain type figure manipulating various characters for his own selfish game and a bunch of no-name non-show characters being the canon version of the Decepticon Mayhem Squad in IDW lore) and done quite a few new figures

The chief stumbling block for a full on revival are several fold:

1: People only give a shit about the show cast. Dreamwave did a mini-series with non-show characters and it was a huge sales flop.

2. Almost out of spite, Hasbro refuses to invalidate Beast Machines to continue the story in a way fans wanted. For all of his sins, Pat Lee (after the first Beast Wars mini with non-show characters flopped) managed to get Hasbro to let him do a proper season four mini that would replace Beast Machines from canon. But then the company collapsed and Hasbro basically refused point blank to let anyone else do it after Lee's fall from grace.

3. A reboot would be crippled by Hasbro's egomania, since most of what made Beast Wars a huge hit was Mainframe vetoing or talking down Hasbro from some of their more retarded ideas.

Guns would be removed, Rat Trap's reviled Beast Machines crippled form would be his main BW form, since Hasbro seriously wanted a downs syndrome cripple character in BW, Waspinator would be killed off first chance they could, and the cavemen characters would be pushed heavily for the sake of a token kid character.

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>People arguing over BW vs G2 toy lines
>Other people arguing over vehicles vs animals
Did all you fucks just forgot about Machine Wars?? You know the toyline that was released 1 year after BW's 1st wave in '97. The line with the only purpose to stop the fandom from bitching "Trukk Not Munkyy"?!

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>>94914525
>Again, these are all opinions, not facts.

Alright, what about this one? I wonder why he never made it in the show?

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>>94917025
Because the show was over when he was introduced, and that was just a repurposed Animorphs toy after that line got cancelled. It has the iconic Andalite head anyone who read kids books in the 90's would recognize.

>>94916914
Machine Wars was half assed though. I bought them from KB and it was neat seeing vehicles again, but it was mostly old repaints. G2 was better than that and was producing good articulated figures prior to the line being canceled.

>>94917054
They canceled the line after he was introduced and then shit on it again with Beast Machines.

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Now that we are talking about techno-organics, can she get pregnant like a normal human?

>>94917216
The last wave of beast Wars was made concurrently with beast Machines, weirdly enough.The Mutants bios mostly make reference to Beast Machines and are implied to be active on BM era cybertron in the toy bios.

>>94917378
I volunteer to test this theory. I will be very thorough.

People were seriously triggered by them being animals?

>>94918619
Gee juan spergs were, even though it ultimate saved the fucking franchise.

>>94918619
Well, Beastfags in this thread are triggered by them being Jets and cars

>>94918807
Not triggered, just fucking tired of them.

>>94913964
>The only real reason why the Maximals and Predacons used Beast Mode was because of the fatal levels of Energon
>Meanwhile Autobots and Decepticons used vehicle mode for disguise, offense, mobility, and transportation

>>94916621
>Rat Trap's reviled Beast Machines crippled form would be his main BW form, since Hasbro seriously wanted a downs syndrome cripple character in BW
Why?

>>94918619
And the CG, smaller scale, a second Megatron, theme music, etc