JSA Storytime: Omega the Unknown

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>>94881134
or, well, you know

>>94881134
I finally got Ring of the Nibelung yesterday. I sat and read Rhinegold along with the opera. The dialogue isn't one to one with the opera, at least as far as I can tell because I don't spreachen sie deutsche, but it's still not too difficult to follow along with, making for an incredibly unique experience, especially for a pleb like myself who prefers to read things over watching them.

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>>94881183

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>>94881228
He makes some really weird transliteration choices that drive me nuts with a few character names

and yeah, the opera is talky! in fact, that's the thing that surprises people IME the most about Wagner, they expect non-stop high volume and you get a lot of chatty people instead

What's really interesting to look at is how PCR tries to convey the mostly instrumental parts, like the interludes that cover the scene changes, or the part near the end where Donner parts the clouds and you see the rainbow

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>>94881289
lol no one got gold pieces out of a surprise coin packet

>>94881317
Those world pieces paid for themselves

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>>94881317
>70s NYC.jpg

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>>94881342
here we go lads

>>94881134
Hello, Storyteller.

Normally I'd try to have something relevant to say here, but honestly, I can't be arsed. 4chan is having one of those days.

And on top of the usual bullshit, Nintendo is pulling that manufactured scarcity with the SNES Classic. Stop fucking doing that!

So when collecting(downloading) fourth world stuff found out Gerber did some Mr Miracle?

>>94881410

i called my local gamestop to ask about it, the poor worker sounded so tired

>>94881382
I wonder how common a sight it is in Marvel NYC to see two people get randomly atomized.

>>94881419
Yeah, IIRC Gerber's run was the run that coincided with Orion's "O" costume.

>>94881289
I can't always tell if the dialogue has been shortened to fit in speech bubbles or if the singing is just stretching out German words really long.

Either way, highly recommend the experience to anybody that has any interest in the operas OP has talked about. The individual issues are a lot cheaper than the hardcover but it's VERY high quality. A comic that basically has a soundtrack is kind of unheard of AFAIK.


Also, I've got a depressing as FUCK quote from Mary Skrenes, let me get it

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>>94881410
I really don't understand Nintendo's thinking on this, it seems so deliberately perverse

>>94881419
Being endlessly bugged about a supply issue you can't do anything about is a very particular circle of retail hell

>>94881228
I like how insane every character in that is from the word go. They all have passions they cannot even hope to contain. But I'm a true pleb, I haven't even touched the opera - or any opera. Just read that comic once.

>>94881456

yeah i've had it happen in food where it's just "sorry we're out. nothing i can do"

Skrenes shortly after Gerber's death:

>There were some people who could only write, that's all they could do.
>Steve, unfortunately, was one. And people should know comics are a place to start and then move on. But he didn't like animation, and he didn't like television. He liked comic books.

>>94881410
>And on top of the usual bullshit, Nintendo is pulling that manufactured scarcity with the SNES Classic. Stop fucking doing that!

I got lucky and managed to pre-order one in person.

>>94881456
>Fool all your friends!
>in a Foolkiller guest spot
Those poor, innocent, murderous urban NYC children

>>94881521
>comics are a place to start and then move on.
Fuck
yoooouuuuuu

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>>94881453
PCR has trimmed the dialogue and he's not really great at getting the alliteration/Stabreim of the original, but that's hard as fuck to do

The hardest thing to try to duplicate, which I think he doesn't succeed at but can't, to be fair, is the pacing of the opera, but also the way the motifs communicate meaning and layer and thicken as you go along

>>94881481
TBF that's what most operas have that makes opera fucking cool--forget realism, we're here for the oversized emotions

>>94881410
I don't really get the point of the remake consoles. Isn't most of that stuff on the Wii U VC anyway? Or even the Wii one, which had a nice classic controller too.

But yeah Nintendo has been doing that scarcity shit for a while. I don't really get the point, unless they see sales do better if you stretch a release out more or something.

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the cutest lil Hawkman

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>>94881571
>same cheap paper, same pedestrian design

Dream: go to a con in full pirate garb and hand these out to people

>>94881521
What the fuck, man.

>He liked comic books
Damn right, he did. That's what we need in this medium, more people that are actually passionate for it, not failed screenwriters, or novelists who think writing a comic book would be a "fun experiment"

>>94881616
glad I don't have space for shit like this or I'd buy a ton

>>94881456
You gotta remember that Nintendo started as a toy company, and to a degree, they still think like a toy company.

See, with toys, it's beneficial to make hot button products harder to find, since toys are a more niche market that relies on collectors who will spend big cash on special edition merch.

Video games however, have reached a level of ubiquity that makes them desired by a much larger range of customers. Nintendo is old and Japanese though, so their thinking is archaic in this regard. The SNES Classic is a highly anticipated product, this toy company Nintendo defaults to making it scarce, because that's how toys work.

It's fucking stupid, but there is a "logical" thread here. Though you'd think they'd have learned from the NES Classic debacle. Nintendo, you're possibly the least scummy of the big publishers, please stop doing stupid shit.

>>94881630
We also need less fanboys that read comics and only comics. And when I say comics I'm talking about very mainstream, very popular cape comics.

>>94881570
From what their experience at Marvel was like, I don't blame her. Even Kirby wanted desperately to get into animation. Until DC put royalties in place and Marvel begrudgingly followed, working in comics was like working a retail job-- no matter how much work and passion you put in, it was basically a thankless job with shit pay that you used to get into a higher-paying industry.

I don't think she was trying to be dismissive of comics as a medium, she was just saying he had all this amazing talent and never got real recognition out of it, and his creator owned stuff sold like shit.

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>>94881670
Ahhhh, that does make sense.

I'm so glad that digital releases mean we'll never pay $75 for a used copy of FFT again

ALSO I have a backlog but should I buy Dishonored for $2.50? Is it fun if I don't really care for FPS that much? Can I sneak without total bullshit?

>>94881670
Fuck the NES Classic, you'd think they'd have learned from the freaking Amiibos.

>>94881670
It's weird that they're so much better about this with handhelds when those are probably more collectible with all the colors and shit

>>94881696
Hell, Kirby didn't even expect to be the one to finish things like the Fourth World.
He expected to get them started and then pass them on.

So, yeah, I think looking at the overall perspective of the time like you're saying is apt.

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>>94881740
Reminder, this was the era of the ugliest baseball uniform ever: the mid 70s Astros

Also I hope any fellow Texans here are not on the coast and have GTFO somewhere safe

>>94881771
No, he expected to finish Fourth World. The other projects, The Demon, Kamandi, etc were supposed to be continued by others.

>>94881740

yeah if you like stealth it's fun

>>94881771

>when you read he wanted Ditko to take over Mr Miracle

I would die to see what that looks like!

>>94881787
I want that Conan shirt desu

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>>94881827
Okay, then...does it make stealth fun and not annoying and super-finicky? Because I tried the ESO Thieves' Guild stuff and noped the fuck out real quick when it's all "you get to sit and hide in this basket until the guards move, isn't that cool?"

captcha, that is literally the Sibelius monument, those are not actually chimes

>>94881821
According to Evanier, he expected the Saga to end, yes, but he only thought he'd do the initial set-up arcs.

>>94881856
Oh yeah

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>>94881865
best boy

>>94881740
Thing with Dishonored is it's kind of a "casualized" stealth game, but not necessarily in a bad way. Combat is very effective so getting caught doesn't mean you have to just reload. But you have LOTS of options for sneaking and many different routes. It's really satisfying to get through without even being seen once and leaving no trace at all.

>>94881771
If Gerber had gotten more stuff out in the mid-80's he would have been super successful, I think. By then there was finally a market for more offbeat or artsy comics, you could actually make a living publishing stuff like Ronin, Maus, Watchmen, etc. Gerber's attempts to break into that market just didn't work out somehow.

>>94881787
Quite ironically I had finally cleared this weekend to go to the coast while being too stupid to look at the forecasts. So I guess I'm gonna have a staycation instead and eat pizza instead of delicious seafood.

>>94881865
I know this is Spider-Man, Marvel's biggest character, but couldn't they have chosen some characters who actually can fly/glide like Superman and Batman there? Y'know, like Iron Man and the Human Torch?

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>>94881886
everything about this is fucking great

>>94881897
Yeah, have a staycation and see how much/if there's damage, because it's mandatory evac at Port A and Galveston is bracing too

>>94881746
Right? You STILL can't get a hold of amiibos through normal channels.

The video game industry is such a mess that even the company that, let's face it, saved the medium can't stop fucking up.

>>94881761
I'm actually really glad they're not consistent about it, otherwise you couldn't play any of their games.

>>94881912
I'm sure Spidey's made a web glider at some point.

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>>94881949
I'M A POET

>>94881877
Didn't he even mention in the back of the Manhunter Special that he was sad that he New Gods got canceled so he could work on Demon and Kamandi?

>>94881570
Financially it's true.

>>94881980
>just wrecking their shit and leaving

rude tbqh

>>94882002
Yeah, because he had stayed on longer than expected on New Gods that it became a much larger passion project - while Kamandi and Demon came from editorial mandates.

Literally, "Create a Horror Comic" and "Create a Planet of the Apes Clone"

>>94882024
Does animation really pay better? At least nowadays

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>>94881980

>>94881949
Greg best boy

also as noted last thread, the last issue & this are his first appearances

I didn't realize Gerber had actually created Ross, Greg and Kurt

>>94881980
>last panel
Uh oh. Our boy James-Michael seems a bit tired of fools as well...

Innocence lost.

>>94881886
>>94881980
this outfit looks a little more cowboy-y than piratey

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>>94882057
>>94882061
thank you Duggan for reading OHOTMU

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>>94882095
Right, the hat is totally not as floppy as it becomes later on

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>>94882116

>>94881571
Post kept getting eaten but - I have no point of reference but I love all these PCR close-ups and atmospheric scenes of demented love, rage, avarice and whatnot. The sorta oppositional, unfulfilled, doomed trajectory of it all seems set out right from the start with the dwarf and the mermaids. And then everything comes crashing apart in fire and flood at the end, it's great.

Anyway I really liked it as a comic - so I probably should try the fucking opera sometime!

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>>94882162
yes yes you should :)

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>>94882178
Omega just wants to buy a suit!

>>94882053
Yes.

>>94881740
Dishonored is great. Arkane knows how to do environmental games better than most, and it's not a difficult game.

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>>94882209
I, too, wish to be a master of Karate

>>94882061
RIP Kurt.

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>>94882252
Okay I'll add 1 to my backlog because dude, $2.50???? that's dirt fucking cheap

I need to fix my shoulders before I game and I keep meaning to replay/finally finish Oblivion

>>94882053
I imagine TV writing still pays more, since the comics industry is very small and Hollywood is very large, and typically you are paid per script, with bonuses coming from sellthrough of the issues.

There's a reason most writers (such as Bendis) realized there is much more money in character royalties and creator-owned comics.

Overall, there's probably less of a gap between the two than there used to be, since writers have become a dime a dozen and comics is very incestuous.

>>94882116
Man these letters pages have been the best I've ever seen. Lot of genuine discussion going on in them.

>>94882162
Again I do recommend trying to listen to the music along with the comic because it was such a great experience for me. Obviously not a replacement for watching the real thing but there's no other comic that has a soundtrack like that, you know?

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>>94882286
OP will hook anyone up with all the opera you could ever want, of course

Gerry Conway has like a HUGE tv career I had no idea about

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>>94882318
the ice rink at Rockefeller is really something

love all that Art Deco

>>94882286
Yeah, it's clear this book provoked strong feelings, so I'm glad I got the old scans with letters in them

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>>94882352
oh shii-

I gotta say, all this endless bitching about Domino has made me somewhat interested in her. She must be an amazing, richly nuanced character for her legions of loyal fans to express outrage at her portrayal on the big screen.

Seriously, could we run a Domino centric story sometime? I just gotta know if she's worth all the fuss.

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>>94882402
lololol

Domino is a lot of Fun, but not exactly deep. Great tits. But you already know what the outrage is about.

>>94882395
>you know this is going to be a big one
Oh, you have no idea.

>>94882402
She's lame and a Marvel woman character which means she gets passed around between the guys as a cock sleeve.

>>94882351
My favourite weird comics/tv knot is now Spidey Super Stories > The Electric Company > Tom Whedon > Joss Whedon.

>>94882395
I was so surprised to find out how huge Howard the Duck was for a short time back in the 70's.

Apparently the highly successful "Howard for President" button campaign was done entirely by Gerber and Skrenes behind Marvel's back, as well.

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>>94882430
hahaha I missed "Wholesome Howard Chaykin"

SOMEONE is a scamp, that's for sure

>>94882467
If someone has Howard for me to DL, we should absolutely read Howard some time.

>>94882425
>But you already know what the outrage is about.
Yeah, I know. It's just, I wish they'd bitch about a change that actually is a betrayal of the character. Like making Etta Candy skinny, or Veronica Cale British. THAT is some genuine bullshit.

>>94882402
Marvel should hire that big titty writer who was getting waifu'd here to do something with her, that Secret Empire short was actually neat. And Domino is totally a cheesecake character.

Admittedly I just want to see more /co/ doublethink on 'I hate SJW writers' vs. 'This SJW writer is hot'

>>94882506
Someone posted the work-for-hire God pages in another thread. Gerber was really on point when he wanted to be.

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>>94882506
THERE IT IS

>>94882517
Domino is best as a self-aware cheesecake character--let her be hot and sexy but also shoot things and have adventures, you know? She can also keep banging Piotr because god knows he needs to get over Waifu Kitty.

>>94882279
Be sure to get the DLC with it. Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches is really, really good

>>94882506
Uploading, gimme a few.

>>94882582
>Domino is best as a self-aware cheesecake character

i thought that was she-hulk

>>94882613
One's X-Men, the other's Avengers.

>>94882395
>Wholesome Howard Chaykin

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>>94882613
Shulkie is more of a pure comedy character who is also really good in slice-of-life scenarios, with the lawyer thing; Domino is an action character who should be blowing things up

>>94882517
You mean Luppachino, whose name sounds like a Starbucks coffee? She's doing the art for Robinson Wonder Woman.

>SJW writer
Which at this point equates to "GIRLS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".

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>>94882679

>>94882679
This reminds me, I've been discovering that Gruenwald's Cap is absolutely LOADED with beefcake fanservice. Like every other issue has a gym shower scene with two or more guys.

Shame with how much Spencer drew from Gru's Cap, he didn't take that too.

>>94882582
/d/lectro's brief but blessed appearance has colored all hero/villain interactions and frankly sluttish trash talk in this series for me in a certain way. Can't get over it.

>>94882697
No, not her.

>>94882697
No, it's that blue-haired girl. The one who posted about her tinder match once.

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>>94882725
GDI Dishonored with all the DLC is tenbux and not two-fiddy, still worth it?

TOMORROW: LAST ISSUE (and then two Defenders issues if we get to them)

thanks for reading

>>94882773
Where is page 5?

>>94882747
I saw some of that on Twitter! It's amazing! Especially that casual naked Starfox in the background.

>>94882697
Leah Williams is the name. Ibanez Domino got a thread and then someone looked up the writer and /co/ was /co/.

>>94882794
just ads I skipped this time

>>94882832
I want my ads! lol

Thanks for sharing!

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>>94882773
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2knabeihcxzb4kt/AADmIiW1sA2GuqQ6h3CU99qVa?dl=0

>>94882807
It's like every time a new character is introduced, they get a shower scene. One I was reading today had John Walker undressing in a hotel room with another dude and throwing his clothes across the room.

>>94882773
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

I always feel a little better just chatting with you lot.

But seriously, Nintendo, please stop being stupid. I'm begging you.

>>94882773
It is but you could just try the base game first. The DLC is like real DLC, not what usually passes these days.

I found Dishonored's setting quite derivative of this webcomic I'm into so was initially hesitant on it, but it won me over quick. It definitely counts as a Gud Game and as other anon says Knife and Witches are probably the overall highlights of the whole thing. They also tie directly into the sequel.

>>94882517
>Admittedly I just want to see more /co/ doublethink on 'I hate SJW writers' vs. 'This SJW writer is hot'
It's not that uncommon for somebody to hate a group of people and simultaneously think one is hot or fetishize the entire group. Kinda like those gay politicians who are gay, hate gay people, constantly think of gay people, but like having their luggage carried by cute muscle twinks they paid for.

>>94882815
>google
>dyes her hair blue
>/co/ was /co/
Oh for fucks sake!

>>94882915
>I found Dishonored's setting quite derivative of this webcomic I'm into
Girl Genius?

>>94882860
Bring back the wrestlers.

>>94882993
Naw, Unsounded.

O BOY I SURE HATE BLONALD BLOMFP

>>94883206
Spencer did! D-Man is also gay now

>>94881134
Coming in late, so bumpo.

>>94881183
Seriously though, why did Stern write the previous issue?

>>94886033
Gerber probably missed deadline.

>>94881235
>You're hotter than a five dollar stove, punk

>>94881317
That chicken ad is a new one on me, or at least something I'd never noticed before.

ANIMAL HUSBANDRY! USE YOU BACK ISSUES TO LINE YOUR COOP!

>>94881886
Greg, god damn it, you're like 21 hours and 56 minutes early. Fuck off, how did you even get in here, goddamn.

>>94881897
>If Gerber had gotten more stuff out in the mid-80's he would have been super successful, I think

Just imagine if he hadn't become completely alienated from the Marvel higher ups just before they launched Epic.

>>94881670
People are gonna pay out big cash for one though. Just more to scalpers.

up

>>94889313
RISE