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Give me a reason /co/ hates this show without using the words

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Give me a reason /co/ hates this show without using the words "Reddit", "meme", or "women".
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wait i thought /co/ was split on this show.
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>>94877343
Pretentious stoner shit.
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>>94877343
>Give me a reason /co/ hates this show
Rick
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>>94877343
It's shit
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its full of reddit meme women
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>>94877343
the concept has become boring
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>>94877343
cooties
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>>94877343
I just didn't find it funny at all
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i find the animation style repulsive
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>>94877343
it went from "twilight zone on cocaine" to "family matters on meth"
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Awful writers due to the new ones having vaginas both in their crotch and in their minds
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>>94877343
It's starting to have the same problem as Family Guy, instead of just being itself it tries too hard to appeal to a wider audience, so it becomes too predictable, annoying to watch, and hit and miss.
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>>94877343
You make too many damn threads.

You are currently 1/5th as thread spammy as the Korra threads were.
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>>94877431
Oh wow. Someone actually beat me to it. The show is fine but it wasn't what it was originally. The concept was a drunk scientist fucking around with his grandson. Now the series had became it own thing with it own lore and it own universe where literally anything is fucking possible. Fuck science, Rick may as well be a fucking wizard at this point. The series could be about magic now and it wouldn't make any difference. The episode with the Devil was funny and was a reference to Twilight Zone type stuff so I'll give that a pass but the rest of the series that wasn't about a scientist is boring. The perfect wizard Rick ruined the show. The old jaded scientist that made mistakes, got scared and didn't in fact know everything about literally everything was much more entertaining and what I sign up for.
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>>94877343
The main character is and has always been an insufferable cunt. But that's just me, desu.
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>>94877343
I don't know about the rest of /co/, but to me modern cartoons like this one are so ugly.
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>>94877409
Rick is a fuckhead and he is the reason I didn't even watch past the first episode.
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>>94877343
It glorifies being a complete sociopath and asshole.
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>>94877343
You know that feeling when you are discussing video games and people mention Undertale while posting Sans? Well Rick&Morty and posting Rick is like that within cartoon community board.
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>>94877637
that's just being a hipster
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>>94877637
People need to stop putting all powerful, nihilistic self insert characters into their work.
>>94877534
This. Episodic cartoons are always ruined by "MUH DEEPEST LORE". Adventures Time, Gravity Falls, this...
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(((Rick)))
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HEY MORTO I AM THE PICKLE RICKLE

BURP FART BURP
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>>94877409
>>94877534
>>94877557
>>94877631
>4chan hates 4chan: The Character

Imagine that
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>>94877343
I finished season 1 so far, and the humour is a bit weak. On the other hand the characters and stories are pretty good.
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>>94877343
Overrated
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It subverted expectations laid down by the 2nd season finale, which, I'd argue was some of the best TV ever.

That alone isn't enough to damn it. It could still have gone somewhere interesting. The issue is that it subverted the expectation set up seemingly for the sake of subversion and hasn't done anything interesting since.

If destroying the Galactic Federation was so easy for God Emperor Rick., why didn't he do it earlier? Why was Birdperson so adamant on Rick being a decent guy if Rick never had a shred of goodness? The newest season and the whole Invincible Rick thing flies in the face of the last two seasons, but it does so seemingly just to say it can without an interesting plan or plot.

And the whole Vindicators episode could've been a lot more interesting than it was.
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>>94877834
at least 4chinners know the feel of being defeated.
Rick doesn't, and this is what makes him so unenjoyable as a character.

>only weakness is himself because he's the one thing he can't fix

This may sound interesting but it really isn't
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>>94877343

Extremely one note, you get the point well before season 1 ends and they aren't really changing anything up.

This can be done well, i.e. American Dad, but R&M's execution is stale to me.
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>>94877343
Written by females
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It's popular and all popular things are obviously bad.
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>>94877926
>And the whole Vindicators episode could've been a lot more interesting than it was.
This episode annoyed me more than any other because I was having a great time watching it. I think I just dislike Rick as a character now. I'm not sure what's changed, but I think something fundamental about him has just been fucked to death. I'd have probably been a little happier with the episode if the ending was actually about Morty, but no, it's just Rick being a dick again. That ol' Rick is an unbreakable dick joke is getting old.

>>94877967
I hate retards like you.
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>>94878009
I think it would've been interesting if the Vindicators WERE straight up heroes instead of posturing dicks.

Rick sets up his little Saw thing to try and prove how horrible they are, but nope, he's just a cunt.
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>>94877343
>Assuming it would be hard
They hit their stride early and now know they can pretty much show whatever and make the same paycheck as if they tried, like what Family Guy figured out.

The first season set up something nice, the second season felt like more of the same, now the crux of the third season is "darker and edgier". A premise that does not work unless you are a teenage whiner.

They fired most of their staff for cheaper "diverse" replacements since the originals wanted union rights.

Dan Harmon.

There, 4 reasons.
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>>94877343
It's a gouda show
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>>94878009
Rick still suggested that the ride was about Morty, and he wouldn't have if his basic understanding about himself didn't include some level of caring for his family, even if fucked up.
Turns out Morty was right, yeah, but that ultimately doesn't matter, Rick still got drunk because he was jealous of the Vindicators
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>>94877343
It got too popular and this board is infested with /tv/
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What the fuck was up with the season 1 finale? It was unfunny, cringy and bad for the most part. It has to be one of the worst season finales I have ever seen of all shows I've ever watched.
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>>94878048
Oh, one more. Stupid people can't write smart characters, and you can bet your ass the writing staff is stupid. They wouldn't be working on a comedy show if they were smart.
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>>94877343
Because its changed from a wacky dimensional fuckfest into a boring family sitcom.
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>>94877343
It's the same derivative and obnoxious crap that comprises 80% of "adult cartoons", right down to hamfisted sad moments to make people think it has some substance.

I could give you a 100 reasons and you'd ignore all of them while calling me a contrarian who just hates it because it's popular.
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>>94877926
>Plot of Rick being imprisoned by the Galactic Government condensed into one episode so everything can "go back to normal" for the new season
>New episodes are still plot focused and do nothing to take advantage of this, may as well have been more serious with something other than the divorce
>You will never have a more elaborate, thought out, and dramatic prison break
>For the sake of Pickle Rick
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>>94878085
>They wouldn't be working on a comedy show if they were smart.
What is the Simpsons?

>>94878044
Christ, yep. That too. I think I hate that Rick being a dick has no repercussions too. Everyone around him suffers and nobody wants to do anything about it.
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Most episodes of S1 and S2 had genuinely interesting gadget or sci fi concept. Driving force of the plot line was alcoholic inventor throwing goodies at people who were just not ready and sub plot of said drunk jaded scientist regaining his humanity through family. The substance of the show itself might have been just usual mondomedia style 'lol so random' but the execution and voice acting exceeded most of its contemporary kind and that was the reason why I enjoyed it. There were lots of fucked up scenes but you could always shrug it off with 'tis show is nothing more than scientific nihilism'.

But now as >>94877534 mentioned the show degraded to personality fuckfest. It's not sci fi but sci fi themed family guy with cancerous fan base that unironically idolize Rick.

I really hope galactic federation has different branches in different universes and they reemerge as threat factor. Rick's history just might be the last hope this show has for now but I know edginess will sell better for majority of the viewership.
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Don't hate it, but the darker and cynical season three is making it hard for me to like it as much as the first two.
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>>94877967
>>94878074
You realize this is as much of a non argument has haters saying it just sucks, right? Especially when the whole thread is filled with perfectly valid reasons to dislike it. You could at least try to apply damage control to those, R&M Defense Force.
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>>94878102
>Rick being a dick has no repercussions too
It's having some major repercussions on Morty as a character
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>>94878144
People wouldn't have such a hateboner for it if it wasn't popular. Not saying that everyone would like it if it wasn't but people wouldn't flood this board with hundreds of threads/day because we have yet to have another discussion about the lazy, messy writing.
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>>94877343
They can't get their characters development right within their own time-lines even when they have time travel/alternative universes to fix it with the classic cheat of In Medias Res. And that is just sad.

Also not a fan of the art style, but it would be wrong of me to drop it just for that.

>>94877716
Thing is people can't handle sudo-continuity very well.
And anyone who tries to do things episodic gets boxed in as fans build their own lore.
On the other hand anyone who tries to build a arc longer then a few episodes or 2 hours seems to be shot down for not getting to the action/too slow and boring.

This is why most of my favorite things are creative one shots, or start getting shows AFTER the novels are done.

I blame everyone for demanding too much too fast. You want a deep rich world, slow down and build it right. You want fast action, start with a shoot out in an airport or something and go from there.

But nooo, we must over use tropes and flashy cultural references so we can compress the information to try and do both. Then act like the compressed processed from is completely original.
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>>94878147
>It's having some major repercussions on Morty as a character>>
Is it? That just seems like everyone's suffering because of the divorce.
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>>94877967
>>94878074
>thing comes out
>inevitably starts out small and not as many people know about it
>therefore much smaller percentage of people who dislike it
>show explodes in popularity, which means much more viewers
>must be that contrarians changed their minds because they're petty and not that more people who legitimately dislike the show have been exposed to it

Why does it always have to be a conspiracy with you people ?
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>>94878238
>it's statistic scaling at work not lazy writers
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>>94877343
It's shit.
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Its the big bang theory in animated form + edgy nihilism.
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>>94878272
Why is her stand a dick?
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>>94878225
Rick still made the divorce happen on purpose so my point still stands either way
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>>94877343
I personally just don't find it funny aside from the ongoing idea that the parents hate each other and want a divorce.

I haven't seen anything from season 3.
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>>94878272
That, too. I think the show went too far up it's own ass in Season 2 and I've seen other people complain about it.

But I'm pointing out that R&M fans cling on to the idea that it's purely contrarianism and spite like their lives depend on it.
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>>94877343
The writing has declined and the characters, rather than progressing or developing have become over-exaggerated or acting out of character even for them. The humour has shifted to a more generic focus and feels stale. The dynamic between characters is feeling uneven and there's nothing really coming from it.
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>>94878144
Nobody on 4chan deserves to have their arguments and complaints taken seriously.
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>>94877926
>some of the best TV ever
Surely you jest
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>>94877343
People paying too much attention on the creators of a thing will always ruin that thing
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>>94877631
>It glorifies being a complete sociopath and asshole.
That explains why it's so popular
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>>94878591

Somewhat justified this season, at least. Harmon just got divorced. Kiiiiinda feels like he's venting.
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>>94877501
>Twilight Zone
At what point in your life have you ever watched an episode of the Twilight Zone? Or done cocaine for that matter?

No offence, but you sound exactly like Ricky and Morty's target audience

>we hate the show because it's good but it's fans are bad
No, it's actually legitimately shit. Shit writing, shit art, pure autistbait
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>>94877343
>/co/ hates this show

Oh we are supposed to hate it now? Shit that was fast.
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>>94877343
Rick's burping is extremely unpleasant. I don't want to hear people constantly belch in real life, and I don't want to hear them do it in cartoons either.
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I don't hate the show, I actually like it, the show is decent and hits my humor and sometimes makes me think with its absurd shit.

But I hate the fanbase to death and also the promotional material. The show is basically Justin shitposting and Harmon hack writing and they're treating it like the new pinacle of phylosophy. I even unsubscribed to all the youtube channels who tried to do analysis of the show. It's absurd the amount of retards that think that this stuff has any deep meaning.

For 4chan, I call this the "smart kid" status, you hate the smart kid for succeeding, all the people who don't hate him, suck his dick because they think he's brilliant and has great future. The kid himself is aware he's shit and just wants to play videogames.
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>>94877343
It's just not my thing
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>>94877834
You're wrong.

This is 4chan: the character.
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It's like a half baked Moral Orel but with Sci-Fi instead of religion
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I don't know about /co/, and I don't speak for /co/, but the first episode alone was a massive turn-off. It was everything I dislike about Family Guy rolled into a single show that felt like a cross between Futurama and South Park without the intelligent writing of either. Crude for the sake of crude "comedy", repeating things over and over and over and over and over, godawful artwork and annoying voices.
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>>94877343
I don't hate it, i just developed an urge to say "Ugh" and roll my eyes whenever they try to be "#Deep" or try to pretend the main cast is anything but a vehicle to carry jokes, one becouse they maked it clear they will probably throw everything out the window the first chance they get, two becouse probably aren't too interested to do so in the first place and three becouse they aren't very good at it.
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>>94878739
>he hasn't hated it since S1
That's when /co/ decided it was trash, but we've always been a bit slow
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>>94877343
>Give me a reason /co/ hates this show
It got popular.
About 3 years ago when it started airing it would get 4 or 5 threads a week saying how good and underrrated the show was
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it's too up its own ass

it lingers on its jokes way too much, making the hits lose punch and the misses a lot more grating
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>>94878300
C'mon now nigga
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Because it's a show in which there are no limitations to what its main character can do, and that lack of limitations has entirely destroyed any sense of urgency and emotional investment that any viewer could ever make.

Rick's characterization has seeped through into the writing itself, with the staff never missing an opportunity to flip any and every situation on its head to seem 'adult', and 'realistic', and 'harsh'. The 'harsh' reality is that the absence of any dramatic tension makes it impossible to continue giving a shit. Rick sees his entire supporting cast as irrelevant and even outright disposable due to the nature of a show that has an entire multiverse just a handwave away, and no attempt is made to bind them to him by circumstance. If all of the characters surrounding him are replaceable, why should we care about them, or any of their problems? It stinks of its own insistence that nothing is worth giving a shit about other than temporary adrenaline rushes, and there's no real break from it.

The newest Vindicators episode really drove this all home for me. A cramped shitfest trying to be """deep""" about how superheroes can be bad behind the curtains, but the main character just floats along in the background quipping and being genuinely terrible, which makes for an ugly contrast of drawn out melodrama and a constant reminder that said melodrama is entirely unimportant. Because for some reason the show needs to mock those angsty themes, despite relying on them itself.

Rick and Morty is a show about a family of legitimately terrible people, and that alone doesn't disqualify it from the possibility of being good. But if the setting is illusory to the main character, the audience will feel that way about it, too. There are no real forces of nature, no boundaries keeping Rick back, no emotional investment of note to empathize with him over. Every episode is a thirty minute demonstration that nothing matters, including the show itself.
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>>94879006
That's not an argument, nigga
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>>94878960
thIS NIGGA GETS IT.
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>>94877343
It became a character driven story despite the fact all of the characters are bad and devoid of any realism or even consistency.
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>>94878591
What the fuck. I can't tell if it's just Roiland being a bitch, or if he's just trying to play it cool while Harmon's being a dick. I respect Roiland to believe it's Harmon being a dick though.
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>>94877343
>without using the words "Reddit", "meme", or "women".

"Cancer", "Szechuan sauce", "roastie".
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>>94878781
Where did you get this picture?
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Adult Swim is only playing up the "pro-woman" angle now because they introduced MDE to the world last year.
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Never liked it, watched a few episodes and just didn't enjoy it.

I'm not going to call it reddit, a meme or blame women writers, because I never liked it in the first place
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>>94878105
The galactic federation exists in every universe and lacks interdimensional travel but wants it. That was the point of the council of ricks. So yes. They will be back. As soon as one of them gets their hands on a portal gun they all will.
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Normies are talking about it all the time, so I'm sick of it
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It just dawned on me after watching 'The Whirly Dirly Conspiracy' that Rick is an antisemite.

The blatant first clue, of course, was in 'Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender' where the answer to the question in Rick's second torture room was Israel, a place where to fight darkness is to fight yourself. In other words, Rick was saying that people have to red pill themselves and acknowledge the Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy that is literally occurring before your very eyes.

Next was the speech Rick gave Jerry on how he destroyed his daughter's life. How Jerry uses pity to get people to feel sorry for him or just the Jews use the Holocaust and their so-called persecution they experience to guilt people into feeling sorry for them. Jerry is the perfect analog for Jew. Think about it. Both Jerry and Jew start with Je. However, the -rry in Jerry's name can sound like 'we' which has a w sound so if we put them together we have Je-we or better yet 'Jew'. So Rick is pissed that the Jew screwed his daughter, Beth, out of a great future. Pissed that the Jew polluted his lineage with inferior Jew genes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqjFzP1NW0Y


Of course, Rick doesn't give two shits about the Jew's half-breed kids and probably wanted nothing to do with them. However, Rick, being the smart man he is, realized that if left alone the Jew would teach his kids the Jew ways and it continues the long vicious cycle of Jew self-pity. So he takes it upon himself to take Morty, a popular Jewish name, and toughen him, pass on his world views, teach him how not to be a Jew and in the end that's how he will beat the Jews. Rick will break the chain of Jewish lies and ensure a better tomorrow by making sure that the ways of the Jew is not passed on.
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>>94877662
Fixed.
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>>94877343
Quick rundown
>Looks awful
>Relies on pop culture references and fart jokes
>Bland characters
>Nearly every plot is a reference, or a parody, or a send up, or a pastiche of something else.
>Writers can't write character development for shit. Every episode ends with a slow, generic speech about emotions or family a la Community.
>Dude fourth wall breaks so postmodern

And while not connected to the show:
>Extremely cancerous fanbase that hypes it up for being deep and complex

Fart joke movie reference: The show just isn't very good.
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>>94878781
Wrong, that's what 4chan wishes it could be.
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>>94877343
If the show spawns +4 threads with each new episode, that bumps it into /co/'s shit list.

Happened with Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, and Samurai Jack. This is part of that growing list. Once there, /co/ will actively search for reasons to hate it, even going so far as to criticize it for having traits that it praises other shows for having because /co/ can never make up its damn mind about what it wants.
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>>94880583
this
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>>94880492
Spoken like someone that's watched someone else watch the show and complain about it, then lift half of what they said and skewed it out of context.
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>>94880604
You're replying to pasta.
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>>94877343
plebbit, maymays, and strong independent wyxmyxn
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>>94880649
/co/mblrisms don't count
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I dont hate it. But I dont see how its so amazing. Is it entertaining? yeah, mostly.
but then they throw in this edgy shit everywhere and it just waters my enthusiasm and enjoyment of the show immensely
Its like they have three writers. A person who writes the jokes and funny bits, a person who comes up with all the sci-fi ideas, and an edgy 15 year old who really REALLY wants everyone to know how pointless life and the world is.
It has funny moments, and it can be entertaining. And then the funny and entertainment comes to a screeching halt so Rick can be a piece of shit to someone for no good reason. Or so Morty can get raped. Or so someone can OD on drugs in explicit detail.

its the cartoon equivalent to being a goth/emo kid who cuts himself and reads Nietzsche and Machiavelli.
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>>94877343
>Bland, overly simplistic art style
>Obnoxious characters
>Pretentious stoner comedy.

Really never saw the appeal desu. It's just another overhyped Adultswim series.
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>>94880583
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It's just not funny and painfully mediocre. I marathoned the first season and didn't even chuckle a single time.
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>>94877343
Redit, maymay, womyn
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>>94877343
It isn't funny nor is it creative, now fuck off.
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>>94878094
left side looks more fun
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>>94880492
>Looks awful
>Relies on pop culture references and fart jokes
>Bland characters
>Nearly every plot is a reference, or a parody, or a send up, or a pastiche of something else
>Writers can't write character development for shit

It's basically South Park then
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>>94877408
/thread
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>>94877343
Rick and Morty's downfall is whenever it tries to be more than a wacky clever sci-fi comedy with hints of action sprinkled throughout. When it tries to get all dramatic and philosophical, it falls short real fucking quick.

The creators themselves aren't very deep thinking or philosophical, so they shouldn't try to make their show to be.
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>>94877343
Panders to the 7th most popular website in the world
The in-jokes and image macros it produces are of low quality
Not written by men
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>>94877343
It's not the worst show ever made. The show just relies on a lot of shock humor, and basically crutches the whole show on shock. It's genius in the aspect of how it can capture the audience on the first viewing. That's why the fan base is vehemently vocal whenever an episode airs.

The flip side to that is there isn't as much punch on the second viewing. Even less during the next. If a joke didn't land with a viewer the first watch, it probably will never land. The fact that the show builds its foundation around being unpredictable means that once everything can be predicted, the show has little to no value beyond that first viewing. It's a cheap laugh. A very well constructed cheap laugh, but nonetheless no rewatchability.

Since recently people on /co/ have been comparing these two shows for whatever reason, take a look at Xavier Renegade Angel. It also relies on shocking, wacky, unpredictable events for humor. The difference is it weaves the events and humor fully into the experience of the show. It is a genuinely entertaining show, it has a lot to offer with absurd imagery and clever wordplay and jokes. It doesn't feel the need to comment on itself and instead leaves the viewer to form an opinion. Because of this, the viewer could feasibly have a different experience each time the rewatch an episode. Rick and Morty lacks this. Each scene is designed to make you feel a specific way, and spoon feeds the humor and writing into the viewer.

So really, not the worst show ever. But not as great as a lot of the fans claim it to be. Just a cheap joke. Worth as much as that. You think /co/ hates it because right now the vocal haters are outtalking the people who like the show or don't give a shit. Lurk, look past the shitposting. There is the truth.
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People who supported Bernie Sanders like it
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>>94877343
It's fanbase is full of 10 year olds who identify as olderkin

That being said I like the show. I put somewhere between Future/American Dad and Family Guy. More clever than FG, less interesting than Futurama or AD
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>>94877343
Crappy artwork, ugly characters.
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>>94878105
>It's not sci fi but sci fi themed family guy with cancerous fan base that unironically idolize Rick.

You mean 4chan?

Examples of "ourguy" being a nasty shithead were funny when we were just trolling but now half of everyone here is clearly a violent ass for real.
I'm so sick of it.

(...and now that I've complained, I will be trolled.)
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>>94877343
/co/ liked it 6 months ago, so now /co/ hates it.
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>>94883324
This is the only correct answer.
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>>94880409
go away /pol/
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It used to be funny but now it's not. I blame women. Nah, just kidding. I blame the fact that it was made a 4channer who (being redundant here) fears success and crumbles under pressure, completely losing creative presence and seeding internal conflict, leaving a directionless team of newly-hired writers left asking themselves "what did people like about the previous seasons" and getting it wrong.
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>>94877926
This is one of the biggest faults honestly. Ok so apparently, the galactic federation's currency's worth can be lowered from 1 of itself to none of itself just by changing a button on a computer.
So this raises a few questions
>Why the fuck would they design it like that
>Couldn't someone just go in there and change it back?
>If Rick supposedly knew where this was and had plans to do this for a while, why couldn't he just portal in and do it whenever? Like wasn't he fighting the federation for fucking years? Why would he waste all that time if he knew he could cripple them this easily
>If he knew how to do that, why wouldn't he just do it after the wedding?
And then in the newest episode they have the thing that makes Rick stupid which raises even more questions like
>why wouldn't the Federation use this seemingly basic tech to sedate Rick and then force him to give up the formula?
You see these kind of shit could be forgiven if it was a show like ATHF or Frisky Dingo where it doesn't really matter and comedy is king, but in a show that supposedly has such a dramatic undertone in an episode that's supposed to be a big finale thing, the fact they fucked it up so hard with such glaring flaws is just terrible.
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>>94883055
>The show just relies on a lot of shock humor, and basically crutches the whole show on shock.

Agreed, but by that criteria /co/ should love it more than ever, not be sick of it.
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>>94877413
didn't expect to laugh
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>>94877343
as I understand it everyone on the show is kind of an asshole, except for Morty? and season 3 is about him becoming cynical, so so much for him
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>implying /co/ is just one person
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>>94877413
10/10 ty
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>>94877413
keked
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>>94880418
saved
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>>94877343
/co/ doesn't, it's just the /pol/smokers stirring shit.
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>>94883301
You might have come from bizzaro /co/ or /tv/ but if my memory did not fail me R&M was always hushed topic on /co/. Literally nobody called Rick 'ourguy' or admitted they were watching R&M openly. Some anons tried to open up discussions but it never got real traction we have right now. The best sentiment he earned was from season two's finale when he voluntarily turned himself into galactic federation, people was starting to accept Rick as more relatable chracter and S3's expectation was sky high....

but NOPE! we never needed character maturing we needed PICKLE RICK!
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>>94883395
I have never known /co/ to follow any specific criteria or agenda.

I have never known any kind of logic here for that matter. Except fap logic.
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>>94877343
I like it.
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>>94877343
It became popular with "normies"
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>>94883547
Underrated post
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>>94877387
Its not even split, there are just a few loud faggots who can't go 5 seconds without screaming about reddit
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>>94877343
I only saw the first episode, I didn't feel like watching anymore. It's just quickfire visual gags and fast talking with some sci-fi references here and there.
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>>94880038
so this wasn't canon? I thought Fed already had technology to travel through different universes(timelines) but then again on pilot episode Rick mentioned he visited 'Future' via his portal gun so I honestly don't know what is happening anymore.
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>>94883762
That portal is normal teleportation. They made the distinction through visuals in the season 3 premier that green portals are inter-dimensional and the blue ones are just normal teleportation.
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>>94883793
Funny how I missed that. I just assumed they were teleporting from 35-C to C-137.
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The artstyle is horrible, it has awful pacing, the voice acting is really bad (at least from roiland), and the writing is boring and BBT tier
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>>94877343
Its not creative anymore.
The new season has been one episode about a space jailbreak, 3 parodies of movies (mad max,john whick and SAW), and one buddy cop chase episode that had one creative location, which is discarded in the third act, and doesnt lend to any creative pieces.

Creativity is why i was a fan of this show. Episodes like the characters being multiplied by 4 different timelines. Episodes like having memories of people you never met. Episodes like having Rick have a massive orgy with a whole planet. Episodes like finding out Ricks ship is powered by a micro universe that is creating a micro micro unvierse.

There is nothing creative anymore. No interesting pieces, no clever use of concepts or writing. Its just dumb boring stories about divorce,awful people, and unoriginal adventures. There has been only one rick and morty adventure and we are allready halfway trought the season. And this isnt gonna change considering next episode is them taking a break, which his hilarious considering we havent seen them do shit the whole season.

This is what happens when you let your personal life get in the middle of your work. Dan Harmond´s divorce absolutely changed the narrative and perspective this show had. Hiring new writers who had a bad background made things even worse.

The only good thing i can say about this show is that the animation is still nice.
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>>94877343
not enough mr. meeseeks
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Because /co/ is the groupthink manifestation of the fan from "Hooker with a Penis".
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>>94877343
I love Rick & Morty. I like its self-depreciating sense of humor and the characters' constant failure. It reminds me of a wackier Venture Brothers.

If I had to give a reason why /co/ hates it, its because it's not Star vs the Forces of Evil. /co/ sucks Star vs dick so hard they're turning blue.
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Reddit meme women
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>>94877343
their message of do what ever the fuck you want because it doesn't matter has become monotonous, especially when they undercut the message nearly constantly.

it relies on the same running gags instead of making new ones.
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>>94879560

BINGO of the decade
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>>94885448
>Dr. O didn't show up once in season 6
It hurts.
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>>94877343
/co/ thinks it is pretentious and unfunny at worst and interesting with character dynamics/designs at best.
i think the show can't decide whether to be a comedy or a story and that's why it is failing.
there isn't the right balance of pacing to laugh at the "jokes" nor is there enough depth to feel sympathy for the characters.
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>>94885728
Agreed, anon.
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>>94877343
Shit writing, unlikable characters, mary sue, harmon. I could go on but you just took out three other dimensions to the show here
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I can't speak for /co/, but I hate Rick and Morty because Rick is just such an unpleasant character, and he never gets shit for it - in fact, he just gets praise. He's even worse than Peggy Hill in the later seasons of KotH, in my opinion.

I hate "science" shows that show scientists as these magical beings that are both able to create anything they want, and at the same time refuse to accept failure. It's the same problem The Big Bang Theory has. And people wear t-shirts with "SCIENCE" written on it inspired by that type of shit.

In many ways, my hatred for Rick and Morty is a reflection of my hatred for those people, because I used to be one of those people. And I'm pretty sure that if Rick and Morty had come out 20 years earlier, I'd be their number one fan.

Rick ALWAYS has to be right, always has to win, always has to survive even while everyone else dies or gets turned into a Cronenberg. He's a sciencey Mary Sue, as far as I'm concerned, which is the most annoying type of Mary Sue.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
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>>94886183

That's sort of the point, Rick is pretty much the worst human being to ever exist, and he gets off scot free, it's supposed to be irritating, but he's stuck in his daughter's garage with his retarded son and her retarded husband being hunted down by virtually everyone and effectively being a pariah because of his behavior
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>>94877637
Rick and Morty is unironically the Undertale of cartoons
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>>94886492

Could Rick beat sans?
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>>94886526
blah blah timelines blah blah
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>>94877343
The cast used to be unlikable, but interesting characters. Now they're unlikable and dull.
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>>94877343
One word, EXPECTATIONS. That's literally it. Exacerbated by 2 things:

1) HIATUS

The long long hiatus raises expectations to an impossible pitch and then people turn into frothing rage machines when the show comes out and it's imperfect. NEWSFLASH: it was always imperfect

2)POPULARITY

Now that there's ads for R&M everywhere, shirts at ComicCon, a show where they discuss it after, etc etc, this raises expectations even higher. "It better be AMAZING if they're gonna promote it that damn much!"


Truth is, if there was no hiatus and no overblown hype, we'd still think it was /ourshow/. Something weird and experimental and fun and dumb. But the bigger stage and brighter spotlights mean we need it to be everything or we'll hate it. We destroy everything we love amigos
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>>94877967
No anon you have it all wrong, it's popular and that means it's perfect and immune from criticism. Everything popular is obviously good and if anyone says otherwise then it must be those gosh darn hipsters lying to us
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>>94878094
But didn't eva do the same thing
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>>94886618
U forgot to mention Reddit
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>>94886627
Your snarky response would be justified if there weren't multiple threads on 4chan 24/7 saying the show is the AntiChrist and Hitler rolled into one
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>>94877343
>give the show a try
>"There is no God, Summer."
Holy shit, fucking dropped.
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>>94878102
>What is the Simpsons?

A trainwreck panned out over the course of twenty years
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It got popular.
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>>94883380
And the fallout for the Galactic Federation falling is apparently zilch if there are big cruise lines still operating.
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>>94878378
>Admits that he shouldn't be taken seriously

I'm pretty sure that counts as you forfeiting the argument in favor of not knowing what youre talking about
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>>94886264

So the show is supposed to be irritating, but we're still watching it? I think it just got too irritating to me. Sure, he's in a bad place with his family and people chasing him, but the thing is, he doesn't mind... so it's as if he has nothing wrong going for him. He's still always right, he still never get what he deserves, and he keeps getting worse with every episode (as far as I know, at least, I stopped watching).

I can't really think of any character who's a bigger "Jerk Sue" than he is, and sorry for using TVTropes speak, but he just fits the term to a T. What I don't understand is why I should watch a show about a character who's so unlikeable and unrelateable, a character that, to me, seems to have been created solely so the author can imagine himself being Rick.
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>>94879560
This isn't the first post, but it is the best post
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>>94884057
this
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>>94877343
Eh, I still like the show but it kind of feels aimless at the moment. For S3 they kinda dropped the ball by trying to make this was the darkest year, as the series had dark moments before but now they don't have the same impact as before because they are either continuously repeated or there are not moments to balance them off.
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>>94886659
That's because it's an active show with an annoying fanbase. It's just like the time that one horse show started gaining traction here
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>>94877413
the absolute MADman
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>>94877343
It's the same few gags over and over and over again.
The only saving grace it has is that it has good animation. That's it. It's a humor show that scores a 4/10 on humor.
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>>94877343
It tries to pretend that it's deeper than it is by being pushing the envelope in a way that's meant to be "edgy" and pushing nihilism 101 like some deep philosophical truth
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I just don't like the jokes, the art or the characters.
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>>94877926
>It subverted expectations
I really wish people would stop using "subvert" like they know what it means.
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It's not funny and it's repetitive.
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>>94877343
I don't hate it, but season 3 has just been Rick badassing over everyone while being completely unchallenged. I hope that changes because it's kind of boring.

/co/ demands to be impressed because the extended wait between seasons built hype. Also more "normies" like this show than ever and that makes it less special to all of us I guess.

Anyway, it's proven Harmon can't make it past a second season and still maintain a quality product. I don't know why all you fucks are acting so shocked.
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>>94877343
plebbit, maymays, cunts.
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>>94887911
>badassing over everyone while being completely unchallenged.
Hello
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>>94887996
Did she put him in his place? It seemed like he was annoyed for a second and then went back to being Rick.
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>>94888006
She cut to the heart of why he's unwilling to solve his unhealthy destructive habits, and I got the sense thathe understtod that, which is why he had no comeback. But yeah, in the end, he went right back to those habits, with Beth following after him.
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>>94877413
savage
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>>94888050
It would've been unrealistic for him to immediately change after that anyway, I'm pretty sure he's gonna have to have that lesson drilled in his head a couple more times before he really understands, maybe he needs to be on the brink of losing something important because of his unwillingness to change, except not much is important to him except Morty, maybe?
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>>94888050
I liked her part of the episode, but Rick and the rest of the family not responding to her analysis (and the numerous gags about her rehabilitating people who eat shit) made me think I wasn't supposed to take her seriously. I didn't get the impression the therapist challenged him at all. It didn't have an impact on Rick or the rest of the family from what I could tell. It just reinforced the fact that Beth is a slave to Rick's approval, which we already knew. The beginning of the episode lead me to believe it would be about Rick's stupid plan humbling him in some way, but it became Rick being an infallible badass, even in pickle form.

Rick seems invincible now and that bums me out. There wasn't an arc leading up to him being an infallible character, so it feels unearned. The earth gets taken over by the federation so he moves the family to a tiny planet to lay low. Then he gets himself captured, escapes, wrecks the federation and citadel and gets Beth to divorce Jerry with little effort.

Two seasons ago we had an episode that ended with him escaping a hologram like a badass but still not knowing if his world was a simulation. He turned his planet into Cronenburgs on accident and had to resort to hitting a cosmic reset button. He was badass but still imperfect. Doesn't feel that way anymore.

Anyway, I'm holding out that this season is more than Rick killing shit with a big animation budget and never ever appearing vulnerable but we'll see how it goes.
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>>94888593
Usually R&M criticism in /co/ tends to be bullshit, but for the first time I can actually finally see your point, I still think we haven't seen enough of season 3 to make that kind of judgement but honestly thank you for being one of the only reasonable people that criticizes without shitting on it, great analysis
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Didn't Roiland and Harmon say they would never write an origin story for Rick? No doubt because they aren't smart enough to come up with a decent backstory for a character who can do anything.
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>>94877343
>pickle
There. That's my reason.
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>>94877343
I stopped watching because Rick got too mean. The show became boring exploring this drunk sociopath. Like I don't even care if season 3 "deconstructs" him or whatever. The show lost all stakes for me when it just became all about assholes.

Like, remember that episode early in season 1 where Rick not only executes that dude for trying to molest Morty but makes sure Morty leaves thinking he had a positive effect and that his adventure was worthwile? Can you imagine Rick doing that now?
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>>94888593

my hope is they are building him up for a fall, so long as that happens it'll all feel ok that hes doing so good right now.

as it is though, hes way too insanely powerful this season. rick doing all that stuff while black out drunk, while funny, also points out just how untouchable rick is lately even at his lowest point.

a season back and hes having issue dealing with things like the miniverse and the purge, those episodes made it feel like rick had to try a bit to get out of situations that weren't nearly as difficult as say taking down the council of ricks and the federation or the vindicators arch enemy while basically unconscious.

again im just waiting for it all to come crashing down on him.
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>>94889741
I mean, he brought Jerry, the man he can't stand the most, on an adventure, because he thought Morty was sad/worried, so honestly yes I can.
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>>94877343
as a fan from season one i'm extremely disappointed with the new episodes. the writing tanked really hard. there's nothing about any of the new plots that feels mind blowing. they're not even doing any twists anymore. the pacing of each episode is way worse in that climactic parts (the parts where the animation gets good for a bit) feel rushed (in 305 the wormhole was the big thing and it was over in a few seconds)
the voice acting sounds way less genuine
theres now only about one actually funny part per episode, if that, that manages to bring in the big laughs (304 where the tunnel was for noob noob instead of morty, 305 where ricks big cybernetic arm is just a suction cup launcher)
the dialogue is a cringefest now more than ever
they act like they're the first people to come up with nihilism, but they're interpretation of it is the most basic, highschooler-that-just-read-the-stranger-and-watched-fight-club-for-the-first-time tier of it.
>>94887996
she also came off as the writer's attempt at a preemptive strike to shield rick from public criticism
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>>94877343
>Too much Summer
>Not enough Morty
>Managed to overexpose Rick despite being one of the title characters
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Jerry needs good to come into his life, Rick needs a huge failure he can't fix.
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>>94879757
>dat dick on PenPen
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>Gravity Falls starts off ok, ends horrible.
>Samurai Jack starts off ok, ends horrible.
>Steven Universe starts off ok, ends horrible.

>Rick and Morty...

Basically, due to various reasons, the episodes have gotten worse. Writers just can't seem to trap lightning in a bottle anymore. Adding new writers to Rick and Morty was a huge mistake, because they clearly couldn't capture anything either. Being women certainly didn't do them any favors, but neither would them being men. The show has gone to shit, everyone on /co/ will still watch it. Some will enjoy the new episodes, and some will hold on to their memories of how it used to be good.
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/co/ doesn't since we're not insecure retards who hate things because we're scared we'll be seen as lame. Miserable /tv/fags crossposting do.
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>>94892701
>/co/
>not insecure retards who hate things because we're scared we'll be seen as lame

Are you sure we're not, anon?
Are you sure?
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>>94884057
>And this isnt gonna change considering next episode is them taking a break, which his hilarious considering we havent seen them do shit the whole season.
A break?
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>>94878078
IM fairily certain they only create continuity to make fun of those of us who like that in shows, so ending season one on a " crazy party" right after a surprisingly compelling cliffhanger was there way of showing they'll always ride the line on how important stuff previously established should be considered. Though ending season two with the mr. Poopybutthole button is what pushed me into being more annoyed with the show than liking it, "it's gonna take us a year and a half to deal with this story!" Preceed to wrap up two seasons worth of story with "I got caught on purpose bitch!" To sum up my complaints if you spend half of your show lambasting cliches don't be surprised when people call you out for using them
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>>94886618
>The long long hiatus raises expectations to an impossible pitch and then people turn into frothing rage machines when the show comes out and it's imperfect. NEWSFLASH: it was always imperfect
No. If it was half as good as the previous two seasons, it'd be fine.

>>94886618
>2)POPULARITY
>
>Now that there's ads for R&M everywhere, shirts at ComicCon, a show where they discuss it after, etc etc, this raises expectations even higher. "It better be AMAZING if they're gonna promote it that damn much!
Not true either. You don't stop playing and enjoying Sonic the Hedgehog because retards are shoving their cocks in home-made Sonic dolls.
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>>94877343
reddit meme women
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>>94880418
fucking this. how did pickle rick become that huge a meme?
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>>94877343
Pretentious "everyone's dumb but me, because I'm a manically always depressed "nihilist". garbage.
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>>94883691
This, it's the vocal minority. Kind of like the Sonic fanbase.
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>>94877534
>>94878105
>>94879560
All of these.
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>>94877343
>animated show
>the animation and artstyle are ass

That's more than enough reason for me.
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>>94878695
>>94879769
>namefags can't understand they're joking
What a surprise
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>>94877343
women are bad writers
i'm not saying men can't be bad writers, i'm saying other men will call men out on being bad writers and not let their shit go through. if you call out a womans writing, you get fired, she gets a raise and your job, all because women have to be treated extra special instead of like equals. which kind of goes into why they'RE JUST NOT FUCKING FUNNY
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I don't think I've heard the argument that it's because of women even once.
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>>94894405
Rather than hiring the people who produce the best work, Harmon hires based on physical appearance. If you went in there as a one armed indian lady, you would get a job and a promotion on the spot.
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>>94877343
some fag equated the show to does those things and it stuck
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>>94878319
don't bother. if you didn't like it before, you'll certainly not like it now.
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>>94893481
This weeks episode is rick and morty taking a vacation from adventures. Which is amazing considering we havent seen a real RICK AND MORTY adventure,in the third season of RICK AND MORTY.
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>>94888593
Don't forget the Devil episode, where he got so lonely he was prepared to hang out with Jerry.
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>>94894554
LMAO
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As much as I enjoy Rick and Morty, the fanbase isn't nearly as smart or deep as it likes to think it is. If anything it's just pretentious. But I guess that's always a risk when you have an arsehole as your main character.

EDIT: The negative responses here have proven that stupidity also runs in the fanbase. For those who can't read, I said that I
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>>94893694
It wasn't funny on it's own and ironic memes are the freshest
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>>94880492
>looks awful
I don't see enough people saying this, this show looks so ugly it's actually insulting to the viewer
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>>94877343
It gets spammed ad nauseam. Your shitty thread being a perfect example.
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>>94878781
what the hell dude where did you get this pic of me?
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trashes its own fanbase and lazy creators
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>>94877343
Reddit memes women.
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>>94877343
It thinks it's smarter then it is, with truly unlikable characters, and sub-standard animation.
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>>94884057
I think the issue isn't so much that it's less creative now, but that the upcoming episodes are overexposed and overhyped.

Back during seasons 1 and 2, you genuinely had no idea what to expect from the next episode. Before season 3 even started, everybody knew there was gonna be an episode where Rick turned himself into a pickle and killed a bunch of rats. The show hasn't gotten worse, it's just that the element of surprise that was so integral to its formula is now gone. Hopefully, as we move towards episodes we know less about, things will get more amusing.
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>>94886618
>>94899106
This
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Obviously Rick is Harmons fragile ego after his divorce and Jerry is his beta masochistic side that his wife left him over in the first place. Dan Harmon is the problem at this point. Rick and Jerry are literally his self-inserts and that is why they've been played to the extreme. Because the man is fucking unhealthy
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>>94887287
kekt
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>>94877413
Anon you are a hero.
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>>94877343
Here's one reason I hate it.
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One minute it's trying to be deep and pretentious, the second it would be surreal and stupid (Poopy Butthole's name is proof)
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>>94900405
>tfw too intelligent
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What doth life?
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>>94878781

This is me. Literally me. No other character can come close to relating to me like this. There is no way you can convince me this is not me. This character could not possibly be anymore me. It’s me, and nobody can convince me otherwise. If anyone approached me on the topic of this not possibly being me, then I immediately shut them down with overwhelming evidence that this character is me. This character is me, it is indisputable. Why anyone would try to argue that this character is not me is beyond me. If you held two pictures of me and this character side by side, you’d see no difference. I can safely look at this character every day and say “Yup, that’s me”. I can practically see this character every time I look at myself in the mirror. I go outside and people stop me to comment how similar I look and act to this character. I chuckle softly as I’m assured everyday this character is me in every way. I can smile each time I get out of bed every morning knowing that I’ve found my identity with this character and I know my place in this world. It’s really quite funny how similar this character is to me, it’s almost like we’re identical twins. When I first saw this character, I had an existential crisis. What if this character was the real me and I was the fictional being. What if this character actual became aware of my existence? Did this character have the ability to become self aware itself?
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>>94877343
Female writers.
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>>94879769
>>94894362
Hard to tell without seeing video. Body language and tone could completely change how we interpret what they're saying.
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>>94877343
not enough naked drawn bitches
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>>94877343

What started as an episodic deconstruction of sci-fi adventures with some dark undertones and set pieces became a character driven dramady.

The divorce plotline that's consuming the current season is a perfect example of this. Just more retreads of characters calling Jerry pathetic and Beth exemplifying her terrible parenting while Rick's hand in their divorce is swept under the rug. Even the episode ABOUT IT turns the blame on Jerry and has him promise not to bring it up.
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>>94900751
I'm so glad that R&M tanking is unexpectedly bringing more attention to Xavier. What a gem that show is, does the joke-a-second thing right.
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>>94877343
contrarians
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>>94877343
rick and morty more like rigor mortis
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>>94877343
>Give me a reason without giving me the actual reasons
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>>94877343
I enjoy the show when it's at its most creative. When Rick goes from poking the cockroach brain with his tongue for movement to making a whole mechsuit based on that concept, or they play the "Roy" sim game that condenses a lifetime into a few seconds, i find my mind blown for a few minutes.
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>>94877343
Basically it was "the coolest, funniest shit ever" when it came outbut now/co/'s assblasted because loads of people happen to like it. See >>94877408 etc, by season two they were probably declaring it the best post-2000's cartoon ever...suddenly, popularity looms, "It was always fucking shitty stoner humour, unfunny and egregiously animated". You contrarian fucks shoud pretty much neck yourelf, or at least make a few really deep (horizontal) "cry for help" cuts on your arms.
Tl;dr: WAAHHH I LOVED IT AT THE BEGINNING NOW ALL THE NORMIES LIKE IT, THEREFORE I MUST DESPISE IT".
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>>94878781
I miss this era of /co/
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>>94877343
I don't hate it but the ad-lib bits are grating
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>>94904409
Dude, season 3 sucks, that's the only reason.
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>>94877343
Nihilistic humour (a la Bojack Horseman, Bobs Burgers-esque and other Nu-Adult Swim type shows)

"Naturalistic dialogue" aka annoying stuttering and burping

Attempts to be artful with a flat and generic art style

Rip off of Back to the Future and Futurama

Subtly pushing social and political norms (as Harmon would want)

It's not going anywhere

Female writers (if a man can't direct Wonder Woman then a woman can't write for a male character)
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>>94904409
4chan hipsters think that because they complain about hipsters so much, they could not possibly be hipsters even when they obviously are. It's much like SJW who think they aren't racist or /pol/tards who think they aren't hyper emotional.
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>>94907668
le horseshoe theory man
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It got popular. And people gave it a sense of self-importance it didn't deserve or probably won't. This caused a backlash. And places like /co/ love being in the backlash. It's all they know.
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>>94877408
This, or it tries to be pretentious.

Every fucking day there's some goofy ass new theory or some shit that's way more complicated than it is or needs to be.
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>>94907655
In what sense is Bob's Burgers nihlistic? I can hardly think of an animated sitcom that's more reaffirming and comfy
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>>94885732
Agreed. It feels like since it got extremely popular, they decided to stall that plot and milk it as much as possible. Now the series is stuck in this comedy/family crisis mode with no true development.
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>>94892701
And of course the mere mention of /a/ won't drive /co/ into a shrill autistic shitfest, right?
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>>94877534
Try to get through a sentence without humiliating yourself through the act of casual swearing, wretch.
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>>94907668
I personally blame /tv/ for their influence with reactionary contrarianism. Notice that company wars threads were multiplying after kinoposting started.
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>>94907755
anon, you have no idea how much that stings.
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>>94906079
What, back when we had fuck instead of shitting our pants when blacks, women, and normies start engaging in something that was never exclusively for us to begin with?

Because that feels like a decade ago at this point.
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>>94877716
Gravity Falls had its plot set from the start, how retarded can you be?
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>>94893694
People thought it was going to be like "Tiny Rick" with Rick screaming "I'M PICKLE RIIIIICK" the whole episode and prepared to meme the fuck out of that, but kept the joke going for the people who refused to watch the episode thinking that that's what was going to happen.
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>>94877834
Well I hate myself and everyone here, your point is?
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>>94877343
It's a reddit meme with women.

Also, all of 4chan would be sucking this show's dick if normies hated it. Literally the only reason it gets shit is muh contrarianism.
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>>94877408
>Pretentious stoner shit.
He said you can't use Reddit
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>>94907799
Not Bob's Burgers per se, but its style of humour is often used to coat some nihilistic or existentialist sentiments.

I've noticed the "life is meaningless" meme being pushed by big hollywood lately, and in pop-sci it's "we're living in a simulation" *urrp*
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Dumb shit for people who think they're smart with an *burp* annoying talking ma*BURRRP*main character.
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I remember when the first season was airing some friends showed me it, I thought it had it's moments but that's about it. I remember thinking the dog episode being funny.

Meanwhile any time a new episode aired it's all anyone would talk about. I'm like, jesus, the show must've gotten a lot better. But it only disappointed from there on out, after giving it multiple chances. And since people wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, it just made me resent it. It's like goofy relatives talking about how funny Family Guy is, only it's your friends who you thought had some semblance of taste.

I dunno, maybe the world is so fucked up lately that people just need some really, really, REALLY dumb shit to attach to. Can't blame anyone for that I suppose.
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>>94897350
Wait... Hang on... Are you trying to say, that jokes about eating shit, having a character named mr poopybutthole, repeating the same nihilistic remark isn't that deep or funny?

Huh, thought that was obvious
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>>94877343
NO NUDE SUMMER
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>>94877343
Went from drunk scientist and his boy ward to seeing which writer could outdo themselves in sucking Rick's dick, to the point where most of the characters don't even feel like themselves anymore and it can't be called character development because its all sporadic. Also, no jokes. All the jokes are gone and they've resorted to a lot of improv, which gets kind of old when more than half of your characters are all played by one guy.

Who thought giving the most underdeveloped character of the Smith family screentime was a good idea? Seriously, describe Beth without calling her a horse surgeon, a bitch or a drunk.
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>>94894447
There's also the problem that women have a moderating effect on men, and men are less likely to tell a woman her ideas are shit.

So, with the two combined, mediocre ideas will become more prominent, and the number of bad ideas that get through will go up.
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>>94894554
If you combine Whirlydirly and the Vindicators, you'd have one(1) quality rick and morty adventure.
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>>94903316
Xavier is an acquired taste, but there is something there.
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>>94908557
Abusive mother
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>>94907655
>"Naturalistic dialogue" aka annoying stuttering and burping

I actually personally really like this when done right, like in Home Movies. I wish more slice of life shows did it.
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>>94883324
>>94883344
Precisely. It's popular with "teh normies" now so the hivemind HAS to hate it
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>>94904409
Oh, I know I'm a (comic) hipster, you should see me collection, just FULL of small press pretentious hipster garbage. In fact I'm such a hipster I think Fantagraphics and Drawn & Quarterly are mainstream
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The writers often think they are smarter then they really are, taking whole episodes to explain a point that is either very obvious but made to seem deep or incredibly oversimplified and made to seem like it should be obvious to figure out from the start.

Also it's shit
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>>94879560
This anon puts my feelings about the show into better words than I ever could.
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>>94877408
>drug that's made illegal literally for racists in the "justice" department to oppress africans
>decades of alcohol use and thousands of DUI deaths

right, stoners are the ones that are pretentrious. you got us, anon. we better change our ways of advocating for literal medicine
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>>94877343
Refute this image without complaining that it exists or "someone took the time to make it".
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>>94914575
How about you just admit reddit=4chan lite
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>>94908030
Anytime a show runner/writer tells you they have a fixed plan over multiple seasons that MFer is lying.
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>>94880418
But where is the screaming sun pickle rick edit
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>>94914607
>I DECLARE WE ARE THE SAME, OBEY OR ELSE
lol, the delusion of self importance at its apex.
Go knife yourself before you join some terrorist cult like Isis or antifa with that mindset, you fucking sum.
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>>94877413
You cheeky son of a bitch.
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>>94877343
ugly art style and no likable characters. Basically futurama: edgy edition
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