The Oscars will be SHIT for animation this year

>>94872036
>current year
>carrying about the Oscars

They threw Best Picture at Moonlight just so people would stop calling them racist. I hope ratings keep plummeting.

>>94872105
Seth MacFarlane should host again

>>94872036
>best Disney feature

It's going to go to Coco.

>>94872137

And it looks like shit even by Pixar standards

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>>94872530
>>94872137

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFujS0DyRcM

>>94872105
Moonlight was the best of a bad batch of films, there really wasn't much competition

>>94872036
Every year people complain about the animation oscars.

Ever year we have to remind people that the voters don't care so it doesn't matter.

Stop caring.

>>94874336
This.

Nothing is going to change anytime soon.

>>94874428

you mean, in like next 10 years?

>>94872036
>caring about the Disney/Pixar award

Watch as Loving Vincent gets locked out. It's the one animated film that actually deserves it.

>Contenders for best animated movie Oscar
Despicable Meme 3
Coco
A foreign movie
Cars 3?
Boss Baby?

Holy fuck this year has been awful

>>94875328

it's KINO. kids dont watch KINO.

>work your ass to be a great animator
>come up with new ways of creating the medium
>get shitty pay because of unspoken agreement between companies to keep your wage low
>only the big guns are rewarded because they're popular

why are people even working in this industry?

>>94872036
>The Oscars will be SHIT for animation this year
You say that as if they weren't shit for animation every year.

>>94872036
Prior to the voting change, the noms could very well have been

>The Big Bad Fox (and other Tales)
>The Breadwinner
>In This Corner of the World
>Loving Vincent
>Mary and the Witch's Flower

But now it's gonna be

>Cars 3
>Coco
>Despicable Me 3
>The Emoji Movie
>The LEGO Batman Movie

Fuck everything, fuck the Academy for making THIS the year to change everything up

>>94872036
>Oscars will be SHIT

/thread

>>94872036
>Winner Best Animated Feature 2017: Boss Baby

>>94874428
>>94874336
NO fuck you, I care about what I like, and I'll keep raging on because it's mistreated

>voting rules got changed

Did they change it so that the jackasses voting have to actually WATCH the movies they vote on?

Most of them dont even watch half the movies, and just vote with whatevers the most popular/what they got paid to vote for.

>>94875505
>tfw they literally changed the rules to give a chance to their shit movies
goddamn why does the Oscars always piss me off so much

>>94875505
If they're going to allow normie shit in that category then they should also have Logan, WW, GOTG2 and Spider-Meme for Best Picture.

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>>94876136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk6jsoXPz-g

>If Disney didn't blow their load early, releasing two of their best modern movies in 2016 they could have easily swept the animation awards this year

>>94876190

imagine if they polished zoot, and make it a winter release, give it proper marketing and merchandise.

2017 would be a year of a thicc brown princess.

instead we got two movies crammed in one year, one of them completely spoiling how the movies are made, leaving a bad aftertaste.

>>94876190
>two of their best modern movies in 2016

>>94874280
What is LaLa Land?

>>94875505
>Emoji Movie
>ever being nominated

Even the Oscars aren't that dumb

>>94872105
it was the best film of what was nominated

>>94876668
Fences, LalaLand, Hacksaw Ridge, Hell of high water were all better than moonlight.

I want the best animated film to go to the MLP movie so I can shitpost about it.

>>94876478
Yes?

>>94876534
>aw gee it’s another movie about white people reinventing jazz
Off yourself

>>94876762
*smacks lips*
*blows into saxophone*

>>94876762
yeah, we should give the award to the mediocre oscar bait movie that no one heard of and ins't entertaining. because it is about a poor gay black man having problems growing up in a city known for being ethnically diverse and cool with the gays.

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>still caring about the Oscars and the Best Animated Feature category after the debacle that is Kimi No Na Wa/Your Name getting snubbed of a Best Animated Feature nomination

you goddamn right, I'm still mad

>>94872036
>The Oscars will be SHIT for animation this year

It's always shit. I'm not sure why you still care about the Oscars to begin with.

>>94876832
>Thinking Kimi No Na Wa/Your Name was better than Zootopia

>>>/a/

>giving a shit about the Oscars, especially for animation
Remember Brave?

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>>94876861

>even the creators were surprised they won.

this is some cruel joke.

>>94872036
>>94875505
>>94875328

Maybe I'm too optimistic, but this could actually benefit non-mainstream cartoons:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but getting nominated for an Oscar makes you a member of the Academy, right? Look how many times Disney/Pixar have been nominated and awarded. The animation branch of the academy is overrepresented by the Walt Disney company! No wonder we got both Moana and Zoo this year in that category.

By letting other people not employed by Disney decide the nominees (directors, screenwriters, foreign filmmakers...), we might actually get more diverse animated films nominated by pushing Disney out of competition; no more Disney/Pixar bias when it's time to vote!

>>94876832
aimated films that should have won.
>the wind rises
>the red turtle
>kubo and the two strings
>song of the sea
>the tale of princess kaguya
>when marnie was there

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>>94876855
>implying muh racism animated film is better than a visual marvel about a love story that stands the test of time in inventive ways

>>94876895
how did it beat frankenweenie, para norman, and even wreck it ralph?

>>94872036
marisa tomei won an Oscar for my cousin vinney.. they're a scam. why anyone still cares is baffling.

>big hero shit beating out princess kaguya

GET FUCKED!

>>94876914
>half are animus, and another is Japanese co-produced

Get off /co/ weeb

>>94876934
Disney paid them. I also find it hilarious how animation is separate from live action, like they can't accept the two intermingling. it's like putting kids a a separate table for thanksgiving. doesn't make any sense.

>>94876920
Even for anime, Your Name's core plot was trite. The things it had going for it was its rendering and the plot twists, but once you get past those, its just another "boy meets girl" deal that you could watch done better in too many other anime.

If any anime film deserved to win it would be the ones mentioned here >>94876914

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>>94876618
Reminder that this was nominated alongside Incredibles and Shrek 2.

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>>94876920
>not thinking smart and fun animated film is better than generic high school animu

>>94876914
zootopia won rightfully it was about muh raisin

kubo was good but not that great

>>94876980
generic mass produced 3d cgi trash movies for kids. vs. finely crafted cell animation with good stories.

>>94876983
they're a bunch of old ass men who think kids don't have a brain until they reach 18 years. OFC they behave like animation it's some kids stuff

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>>94872036

As opposed to literally any other year?

>>94876832
>Weebshit

>>94877059
>muh 2-D is bitter than 3Doo

God, this argument is annoying.

>>94872036
MLP movie will save animation and win the oscar. It will revitalize 2D animation in theaters and start a second golden age. Just not in this timeline

>>94876914
Kubo was shit outside of muh stop motion effects. This board overrates it so much

>>94877093
>Just not in this timeline
Fuck... it would finish drive Barneyfag to finally kill himself.

>>94877059
Half-hazard cookie cutter designed sloppy cel animation that mostly appeals only to niche nerds vs beautifully modeled, finely crafted and animated films appreciated by audiences of all shapes and sizes

See, I can make one sound better than the other too. It's not an argument though.

>Caring about award shows

is this the 90s

>>94877085
Frozen is such garbage.

>>94877085
Reading these makes me legitimately angry

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>>94877063
It's quite an accomplishment that this movie got noticed by the academy, considering they usually see animation as kids' shit.

>>94877184
It probably won out the nominations, but when it came to the actual awards it boiled down to something like this >>94877085

>>94877063
from what i've read. the animated movie winner is what ever is popular with the judges' kids/grand kids.

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Why don't you clean your room Mom?

>>94877009
What about the animation that is fluid as fuck and the visuals?

>>94878660
Story still matters, mate.

>>94873583

I am Mexican and this movie offends me, our real rich culture is basically soccer and reggaeton.

>>94879324
don't forget Narcos

>>94879475
And Our Lady of Guadalupe.

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>>94872036
How will /co/ and /tv/ react if/when My Little Pony: The Movie gets nominated?

How will this whole site react if this movie gets an Academy Ward?

>>94879583
You'd think the butthurt would be lessened by time, but the more autistic parties will freak the fuck out like they always have.

>>94875505
>Lego movies getting nominated for Best Animated Picture
You wish.

>>94876724
Fucking hacksaw ridge?

>>94876534
Both are good movies. Moonlight is more about character's development than LaLa Land and the Oscard academy likes that kind of thing.
None are undeserving of getting the oscar.

>>94874336
People shouldn't care about the Oscar, period.
The opinion of a jury who's not forced to watch every competitors before making a decision is worthless.

>>94876534

Another Hollywood jerking off section?

>>94874280
>Bad batch of films
What the fuck are you on about anon, last year outside of hidden figures and lion was the best group of best picture nominees in years.

I've seen In This Corner of the World. It was fucking beautiful, but it's not going to win because of a bunch of racist old assholes at the Oscars.

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>>94874280
>there wasn't much competition

>what is Arrival
>what is Hell or High Water
>what is La La Land
>what is Manchester by the Sea

>>94876832
Yeah, total fucking bullshit right there.

That and Up not winning Best Picture

>>94881588
I don't get how Moonlight was a good character development movie.

The main character is basically the same as he was at the beginning, except he's swole and gay

>>94876832
From what I've heard Funimation didn't know how to run a campaign so it may not have even been seen by the judges. And there's no way it would have won anyway. And it's not like the awards mean anything anyway.

>>94876855
Nobody would ever say these things if they weren't evaluating animation movies with special Disney-derived standards.

>>94877009
Plotfags and originalityfags are the worst and understand nothing about cinema.

>>94877049
There's nothing generic about it, and high school is not a genre or plot, it's a setting. It's not even about high school specifically.

>>94877087
Japanese movie. By definition it can't be weeaboo.

>>94877129
Ghibli movies are the most mainstream anime there is.

>>94876832
Reminder that Kubo and the two strings, The Wind Rises, and ParaNorman all lost to B-tier Disney movies

>>94876724
>Hacksaw Ridge
O I am laffin

>>94882982
First half was schmaltzy shit, but the second half was classic Melly Gibs

>>94872036
I'm sort of glad events like e3 can get move views/money than the oscars.

>>94872036
I wonder if people in the animation industry find Amid as insufferable as I do.

>>94872036
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/oscar-rules-change-impact-indie-foreign-films-best-animated-feature-race-150099.html

Could the hacker known as 4chan print a list of the entire ASCAP membership and where their children go to school

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>>94876832
I'm fine with Zootopia winning, but Kimi no na wa should've gotten the nom.

Lego Movie not getting nominated the year before was the most infuriating bullshit.

>>94883700
If animation was treated the same as live action, a movie like Zootopia would never win. People just have a whole different set of standards for animation. Animation has never been approached as real filmmaking in the US.

Movies like Your Name should just be competing in the best foreign film category instead.

>>94883944
There was a time when Beauty & the Beast was pushed so hard to be nominated for Best Picture by one judge.

>>94872036
>The Oscars will be SHIT

Fixed that for you. There were like three good movies this year? Four?

>>94884015
and everybody in the Academy threw a bitch fit that it was nominated

Animated films in 2017:

Wolfwalkers
The Breadwinner
Coco
Mary and the Witch's Child
Despicable Me 3
Loving Vincent
Captain Underpants
The Night is Short, Walk on Girl
The Lego Batman Movie

Animated movies from 2016 that could be nominated in 2017 because they'll get an English release and/or simply weren't nominated last year:

In This Corner of the World
Ballerina
A Silent Voice
Your Name
The Girl Without Hands
Another Day of Life


The actual nominees will be shit though.

>>94881644
People shouldn't care about ANY award ceremony, really. They all end up being popularity contests or agenda-pushing contests.

We certainly shouldn't give a shit about one that mixes in commercial with art and has now changed the rules to negate most art.

>>94876534
Haven't seen it but my mom hated it so much she's convinced it was some kind of practical joke. She's ranted at length about it multiple times.
It's pretty funny. I think she appreciated Moonlight more

>>94877184
The people who NOMINATED in years past were the animation branch, ie. those who actually gave a shit about animation and the variety it can present as a medium.

The Academy as a whole are the ones who do this bullshit
>>94877085
which will surely result in a list of only mainstream nominees, UNLESS nearly all of them abstain

>>94884127
>Wolfwalkers
>2017
Bruh they haven't even finished production on Wolfwalkers. We're not seeing that movie for another two years at least.

Also Your Name was eligible last year, and is therefore ineligible this year.

While I agree with >>94872105 in that the Oscars are a fucking joke (and the Moonlight fiasco was really the perfect storm), here are my predictions:

>>94875396
>Coco (will win because of The Mouse)
>The Star
>The Breadwinner
>Mary and the Witch's Flower
>Loving Vincent
B-listers:
>Captain Underpants
>The Emoji Movie
>The Boss Baby
>Ballerina/Leap
>The Girl without Hands
>Birdboy

I'm not counting on Despicable Me or Cars because sequels never get in. If anything the nominations are more interesting than the actual Best Mouse Award.

>>94886027
You forgot the MLP movie. I don't see it having a great chance but the shitshow would be glorious if it even got a nomination.

>>94885966
Could Your Name be submitted for another category this year? I could be like City of God, which failed to get nominated for Foreign Language but got noms for other categories the following year.

>>94886511
Nope, since the category it was submitted for last year was NOT Foreign Language

>>94876817
La La Land was the epitome of mediocre Oscar bait.

>>94886027
My fast-selling predictions for the nominees this year are:

>Coco (Winner, because Pixar)
>The Breadwinner
>The Lego Batman Movie
>Loving Vincent

And a fifth nominee that could come from literally any one of these movies:

>Cars 3
>Despicable Me 3
>The Lego Ninjago Movie
>The Big Bad Fox
>Mary and the Witch's Flower
>In This Corner of the World

It really is a wild card race for this category this year, since I have no idea in which direction the nominees will flux (blockbuster kiddie flicks vs. indie "artsy-fartsy" / foreign fare).

Loving Vincent has the backing of being a film many years in the making and being the first of its kind, while The Breadwinner is coming from a company whose first two films have been nominated for the award.

>>94887105
The formula is always the following:
>Two big-name studio productions (Zootopia/Moana)
>One original anime (The Red Turtle)
>Two mid/small passion projects (Zucchini/Kubo)
Coco will obviously be a big-name (and the winner), Mary and the Witch's Flower has a safe lock on the anime, and it's easy seeing Loving Vincent and The Breadwinner as the arthousers.

Per standard, that only leaves the second bigwig. Of course, shit could very well be *all* bigwigs because of the Academy's animation division getting relegated in the nomination process. Only time will tell.

>>94888550
The Red Turtle is a French movie, and Ghibli had barely anything to do with it.

>>94882884
Pretty much. I really wanted to like it and it was very well shot, but it was a big pile of nothing. No wonder it was completely forgotten one week after Oscars.

>>94887054
Moonlight was a typical Oscar Bait; La La Land was a Hollywood handjob like The Artist.