Is this any good ?

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Anyone who says no is a faggot.

If you like never-ending romance drama that goes nowhere and potential game-changing elements reverting back to status quo by the next episode.

>>94869547
it's ROFLOLRANDUMB XD, but not obnoxious in the sense in which i just put it

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>>94869547
You tell me.

>>94869547
First few seasons are enjoyable for most people, but for the following seasons if you're not a fan of artsy/experimental stuff and unconventional storytelling it will turn you off, it's not for everyone. (but I like it)

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>>94869547
Its a shit show. These shows are better

>>94869547
its good in general

there is definitely some bad seasons though, somewhere between season 4-6 I think people generally agree was the shows dark period, Flame Princess was a mistake

>>94869620
>Between 4 and 6
Shit taste
It's 6-9 that are unwatchable.

>>94869547
It's worth giving a try. It's one of my favourite shows, but it's not without its flaws.

>>94869615
>tripfag
>Animaniacs

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In all honesty, it kind of aged like dogshit. Some of it isnt its fault as the style of the early 2010s with quirky characters and eunuch male main characters got old real quick, but a lot of it is its fault for going on too long, meandering, spamming tons of shit new characters, etc.

>>94869635
1-4 are unwatchable (lol random)
5-8 are glorious for someone who wants a decent story

>>94869719
lolno

>>94869547
The show have it's flaws but it's good in general

>>94869725
lolyes

>>94869547
Yeah, it's a great cartoon, one of my favourites. I disagree with the general sentiment on /co/ that there was a huge quality dip. It's been consistently good despite its shift in tone over the years. In fact, that's one of the things I most appreciate about the show. I don't think there is a single show that matches its level of both variety, and consistency.

I actually prefer the more recent seasons to the earlier ones, although there is a certain charm to the earlier stuff that I do miss.

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>>94869719

>>94869547
It peaked at Season 2
everything after is a steady decline with some gems here and there

>>94869734
Absolutely this.
a lot of wifufags got triggered after flame princess episode which lead to them calling all the other seasons "garbage" because of this episode and a few other

>>94869751
>any opinion other than mine is a bait

>>94869772
Yeah, it's obvious that a lot of criticism of the 'recent seasons' are from people that stopped watching about 3-4 years ago. I'm not exactly a fan of the FP stuff either, but the show has long moved on from it.

>>94869547
Only for the first three seasons
>"b-but muh lore! Muh waifus!"
Everything from S4 and onwards is shit and written by hacks, no exception

>>94869838
Ever watched season 7&8?
I would like to know what's wrong with them.

>>94869612
>unconventional storytelling
I've both enjoyed and disliked episodes that do this, but I absolutely LOVE that this is the reason why nobody has any idea what the series finale could end up being!

>>94869734
>I actually prefer the more recent seasons to the earlier ones
Your opinion can be readily discarded on this statement alone
>I disagree with the general sentiment on /co/ that there was a huge quality dip.
>It's been consistently good despite its shift in tone over the years
>In fact, that's one of the things I most appreciate about the show.
Kill yourself.

>I don't think there is a single show that matches its level of both variety, and consistency
Fucking Steven Universe is more consistent than nuAT. Gravity Falls even managed to have less disappointing plot lines. Disney Jr. Shows have better storytelling. Youtube poops have better jokes.Family Guy has more consistent characterization than nuAT.
>>94869825
>>94869860
I have watched every episode, most of them twice except for the next few episodes after Elements ended. Literally the last two seasons have been garbage miniseries, Stakes is one of the most monotonous and grating things I've watched in a while, the season before that (6) had a lot more bad episodes than good ones. There has not been a single plotline in AT that hasn't been completely disappointing.


Season 5 and eariler was a masterpiece, anything that has been near unwatchable, and the only reason I continue is out of obligation to finish what I've invested years into.

>>94869557
No, it's shit.

>>94869880
>Your opinion can be readily discarded on this statement alone
Then we have nothing to discuss.

>>94869880
>There has not been a single plotline in AT that hasn't been completely disappointing
Like?
And how are the miniseries "garbage" exactly?
I'm starting to believe that the only things that you like is the "random humor" shit, because that's what the earlier seasons were

>>94869860
>>94869991
Let's start with season 7.
In a season of nearly 40 episodes, only 14 were worth watching. I could go over why each on is shit but that'd take too long.
Most of the episodes in the season have poor pacing, or are just entirely unfunny, without any other real factors to carry them. The Stakes miniseries is especially egregious, and are among some of the worst episodes of Adventure Time yet, the entire plotline comes out of thin air, the entire conflict they seek to resolve from the start, is an emotional issue Marceline has that has never even been shadowed in any episodes of her's prior, and we go through a long boring "adventure" of them defeating vampires in the most anticlimactic ways the writers could imagine, the battles offer nothing, especially compared to literally any action show in existence, the villains aren't interesting in the slightest, the backstory they tell throughout the runtime literally does not even matter, what little value you get in finally seeing other humans is completely destroyed in the next season. The "climax" is a "battle" with boring and pretentious speech from the Vampire King, ultimately resulting in him killing himself, and a return to status quo ending, in which the internal conflict Marceline made up in this special is completely unresolved and forgotten.
>Cherry Cream Soda, Football, Summer Showers, Angel Face, President Porpoise, Bad Jubies, Blank Eyed Girl, Scamps, Hall of Egress, Beyond the Grotto, I am a Sword Bun Bun, Five Short Tables, Daddy Daughter Card-Wars
Good Episodes of the season that OP shouldn't skip if he watches this.

>>94870077
>Scamps
>President Porpoise
>Bad Jubies
>Five Short Tables

Not
>Flute Spell
>Normal Man
>Varmints
>Stakes


Jesus christ, your taste is awful. Although I gotta give you props for mentioning Football, that episode is criminally underrated.

>>94869672
Why the fuck are so many anons calling namefags tripfags and tripfags namefags lately. If you're gonna call someone a faggot at least call them the right kind of faggot, yeesh.

>>94869547
Yup, it is

>>94870077
Cont
As far as Season 8, the Fern story seems cool so far, but I'm withholding judgement because I've been let down before.
Islands is a monotonous series that not only gives the most boring possible answer to Finn's existence but offers nothing of value outside of satiating curiosity. None of the episodes have any independent value, none of the characters introduced are interesting, the pacing is poor, and most of the runtime is spent with almost nothing of note happening, Susan's backstory not only forces her to be some else entirely, essentially destroying Susan as we know her, but it doesn't replace it with anything interesting, She's instead a random seeker(I think that's what it was called) who had a glitch in her headchip, No time was invested in exploring the life of her friend, especially not in anyway that give someone a reason to care about her at all, the entire run time is needlessly morose for no real reason. Human's people we didn't even know were still around, doing basically nothing important. Finn's Mom is (kinda) alive, and we don't find this out until the near end of the miniseries, and this ends up with their conflict and resolution feeling incredibly rushed.

Elements was almost as bad as Stakes, but there were at least some good scenes along the way, it suffers from basically all the same problems, and they never seem to get any closer to finding a resolution until out of nowhere Lumpy Space Princess pulls a Deus Ex Machina and solves the entire problem within 2 minutes. There were a few cool designs but the miniseries as a whole was nothing to write home about.

Haven't watched the episodes after elements ends though.

>>94869680
>In all honesty, it kind of aged like dogshit.
That's why it changed?

>>94869880
>>94870077
>>94870365
That's a lot of words for what essentially is "my opinion is the only objective one". I mean, nothing prevents you from posting your opinion and going in some detail, but "recommendations" like this aren't going to get people like OP anywhere, since at the very least half of your criticisms are subjective
>interesting is subjective
>funny is subjective
>pacing is also partially subjective, since different people may have different responses from seeing one scene
I could go into detail about some of your other points, like episodes in Islands having no standalone merit (of course they do, these respectively feature topics people living in illusions, virtue of free will and genuine emotions, the possibility of two different personalities bondng together and the unfortunate implications of it etc.), but I can see that most of them are generalisations anyway.

Tldr - OP, if want to watch the show, then go ahead, watch it (if only for its significance), form your own opinion and then come back, instead of listening to people who believe that "taste" (apparently some sort of a magical ability to determine abstract "good quality", despite no "taste genes" ever being discovered) is anything more than a meme.

>>94870597
>topics people
topics of people*

>>94870597
Everything is subjective, that's why we having discussions about it. Calling someone subjective is a non-argument.
>people living in illusions
This alone doesn't make an episode good. It's just a premise, one that wasn't done well, from the horrendous designs to the boring writing.
>virtue of free will and genuine emotions
Curious which part you're referring to here.
>the possibility of two different personalities bondng together and the unfortunate implications of it etc.)
Again, a premise, is not quality, there is no inherent value of having a premise.
>"instead of listening to people who believe that "taste" (apparently some sort of a magical ability to determine abstract "good quality", despite no "taste genes" ever being discovered) is anything more than a meme"
Yeah, we get it, you have shit taste, it's okay.

>>94869547
Nope, shit sucks.

>>94869547
No.

>>94870831
>Everything is subjective, that's why we having discussions about it. Calling someone subjective is a non-argument.
Yes it is, but there are subjective cathegories that still allow for constructivity, like plot and character development. But it's impossible to have a constructive discusison about whether something was interesting/funny or not, because these cathegories are tied to subjective perception way too much.

>Curious which part you're referring to here.
The ending. As for your other points, I was talking about episodes having intependent aesthetic value, which for me is telling a complete story that first of all works within itself (but might also be a part of a larger arc of episodes) Whether you like the execution or not is irrelevant right now.

>Yeah, we get it, you have shit taste, it's okay.
I hope you understand that if taste existed, the concept of opinion itself would be redundant.

>>94871050
>plot and character development
Enough people thought twilight had a good enough plot and characters for it to have 3 movies. This discussion is no more tangible or "constructive" than whether or not something in interesting, in fact, whether or not these were interesting or romantic is still the core of the issue.
>these cathegories are tied to subjective perception way too much
Not any more than anything else about a show
>The ending
It doesn't put any focus on either of those things though, they kind of just exist in the context of the episode but it doesn't go beyond the basic level of saying that what Minerva was doing was wrong.
>telling a complete story that first of all works within itself
They don't though, in what way the the game, virtual world that those humans were in a complete story, we have barely any idea why they did that or what happens to them from that point, there is no real arc or resolution to it at all. It's just kind of a thing we know is going on now.
>I hope you understand that if taste existed, the concept of opinion itself would be redundant.
t. Someone with shit taste

>>94869547
Why on Earth would you ask /co/?

>>94871170
>This discussion is no more tangible or "constructive" than whether or not something in interesting, in fact, whether or not these were interesting or romantic is still the core of the issue
With character and plot, there are subjective criteria other than "interesting/funny", criteria that are easier to analyze. Whenever people laugh at a joke, they don't usually analyze why it was funny. But when people think some action by some character doesn't make sense, they can usually break down why they think so, as forming such an opinion in the first place requires basic analysis.
>It doesn't put any focus on either of those things though, they kind of just exist in the context of the episode but it doesn't go beyond the basic level of saying that what Minerva was doing was wrong
That's what compelling stories do, make a point through character's actions and buld characters by connecting them to relatable subject matter.
>They don't though, in what way the the game, virtual world that those humans were in a complete story
These humans are the one who's left after the mushroom war -> rather than living in harsh reality, they prefer existing in a virtual one -> the protags discover them and try to bring them back to real world - > the humans have been attached to the virtual reality for so long they're unable to survive in the real world -> they have to get back in the virtual reality. There, that's the story. There isn't supposed to be an arc, it's a story playing around with our moral perception of subject matter, subverting the trope of a protag helping someone overcome their addiction/change their beliefs by showing that addiction is not cured automatically and sometimes certain seemingly harmful beliefs exist because the alternative is even worse. If you're willing to go even more vague, it can be interpreted as "not everyone can be helped". Notice how I'm talking about this without bringing in anything else from the Islands 'cause it's independent.

>>94869547
It was once the most popular cartoon on the planet until the writers started using it as a platform for their fetishes and fantasies instead of silly adventures. Now no one cares about it except for a few "fans" with severe cases of Stockholm Syndrome.

>>94872517
>fetishes
wut?

>>94872517
>stockholm syndrome
Right, because there can't possibly be people who have legitimate reasons to disagree with you. Seriously mate, fuck off.

>>94869547
Okay, this is the best way to put it. It's worth watching at most, stick to it and see if you like it when it breaks the kid-format storytelling and delves deeper.

And keep in mind that the elements in the kid-formats are important, just under an immature visor.

>>94870215
Because of the influx of younger-side millennial virtue signalers from tumblr (no thanks to cartoons like OP), you have all these new users who have no familiarity with the culture or even basic terminology of the site. That's why even obvious trolls like that TUFF Puppy obsessed guy are able to get tons of (You)s since these new users take every post at face value just like they would a tumblr or reddit post.

It's good, worth the watch

>>94869557
This

Still better than tumblr universe and that uncle grandpa shit

Yeah it's great overall

>>94869547
16 epiodes left

>>94869547
It alright

>>94872885
Bubbline
Torture porn

>>94878587
yeah,you're an idiot