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I hate when comics get political.

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I hate when comics get political.
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So you have hated comics since the 40's? What do you even read, sunday funnies?
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>>94856581
>rick and morty
trash
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>>94856603
>sunday funnies?
Forgetting Doonsbury which is very political.
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>>94856581
>Taking what is clearly supposed to be a joke out of context
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Morty isn't that smart, and it's funny how people who live in capitalist countries and partake in capitalist lives think communism is worth shit. If there really was a class uprising, niggers and rednecks would be the underclass coming after heads. Jamal and Cletus, who have the guns, would be killing these people, who in reality are just poor middle class who complain about everything. Then the whole country would turn to shit because these people are poor as fuck for a reason- they're bad workers and dumb. The writer's a hack.
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>>94856581
>communism is about organizing production
>lmao just let everyone own everything it'll just sort itself out without a state or management
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>>94856581
>I hate when comics don't pander to my personal politics

fixed that for you
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>>94856699
>rednecks

Unlikely as they've always been naive puppets of the bourgeoisie. Shit, look at West Virginia. They can't take Trump's cock out of their mouths long enough to see how they're being played.
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> organization

noooo that's not the word communists like to use. what's that word again? oh right.

Seize.

God how bored of an Westener do you need to be to give communism any real thought?
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>>94856581

Wow, it's like the retarded joke except actually retarded.
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>>94856841
>black man
>racist
?
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>>94856581
Well now I'm intrigued into what the context is of this one. What issue is this?
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>>94856877
black people can be racist
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>>94857088
you doesn't know what racism means?
racism requires oppression, you wouldn't know about it redneck
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>>94857141
screenshoted, gonna put this into the collage.
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>>94856781
This.

If it was something you agreed with you'd be screaming "BASED RICK AND MORTY" and "TUMBLR BTFO!!!" and "IS [rick and morty writer] /OURGUY/?"
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>>94856781
This
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>>94856581
>quote-mining
I thought your kind abhors "Jewish tricks™"
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Morty wouldn't know any of that
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This thread needs to hurry up and get pruned already.
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>>94856581
>a forty-something pothead Dan Harmond thinks he knows communism

Can we just ban this show from here already?
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>>94857141
racism is prejudice against a group of people because of their race, nothing more, nothing less.
head back to tumblr nigger
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I expected nothing less from Reddit: the show: the comic
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>>94857302
Dan didn't write the comic.
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>>94856581
But did he actually say anything wrong? Or even biased? All he did was state facts.
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>>94856781
This.
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>>94856581
>Explaining the difference between 2 ideologies
>Political

It's not political unless they actually claim one is better.
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>>94856581
I don't get it, what's so triggering about this? Is it that it seems to imply communism helps people?
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>>94856581

>reciting dictionary definitions
>political
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>>94857305
Why do you take the bait? Are you new here or something?
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>Comic doesn't outright criticize Communism or Fascism, provides a short objective analysis of both with a basis in history showing no inherent bias in preference
>Butthurts /pol/posters throw a crying tantrum as if mentioning communism in a not strictly negative or demeaning manner means the author is an evil communist trying to push an agenda
>Completely ignoring the fact fascism is in the same sentence and gets the same neutral treatment

I've come to hate this bunch of lowlives inbred retards I share this site with. Either you have no reading comprehension and an IQ that doesn't exceed the 40s or you are just looking for excuses to bitch about a cartoon that has been erroneously labeled as politically biased because it's an easy target due to recent memery and you are such uncreative, oxygen-wasting tools with no room in your cranial cavity for independent thought that you had to take a generic unjustified jab with the blandest ad hominem and politically charged insult instead of coming up with a well thought post that conveys an understading of the source material.
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>>94856581
>communism is not the same as fascism
>this is considered deep and mind blowing in american media
what the fuck
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>>94857088
Confirmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3U4-mv5_08
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>>94856803
They were played for years before by the left, they know that either way they're fucked. Why not try something different? its the only thing they can do.
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>>94856803
>how they're being played

You mean like when the the rust belt voted for Obama and then he specifically put policies in place to shut down coal mines and destroy jobs in an already economically depressed part of the country?

I wonder why they'd vote for the guy who based his campaign on re-opening coal mines- they must have gotten played!
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Communism can only exist with fascism.

Communism in itself isn't fascism but it requires state power to be enforced.

No one wants to willingly live in a communist state. The vacuum of power created demands an authoritarian leader.

This is why communism is a meme. On paper it's fascism but once it's put into action it becomes fascism.
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>>94857488
is this pasta?
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>>94857253
Political opinions aside, THIS is what matters. Isn't Morty like 14? Why would he know or even care about the differences between communism and fascism?
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>>94857569
most communists are 14 year olds, anon
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>>94857561
fascism and communism are technically economic systems, what you mean is authoritarianism which is why the USSR's constitution which guaranteed a bunch of freedoms wasn't worth the toilet paper Stalin used to wipe his ass.
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>>94857561
>authoritarianism is fascism
holy fuck you're stupid
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>>94857365
Morty is a 14 year old boy with learning difficulties, why would he know or give a shit about Pol Pot?
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>>94856581
This isn't politics, it's reading a dictionary page.
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>>94857566
>Anything longer than a couple of lines and a with a vocabulary slightly above the level of monkey grunts and usage of "faggot" and "nigger" is a pasta
You disgust me.
You are everything wrong with modern 4chan.
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>>94857602
>Fascism /ˈfæʃJzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism
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If you don't know the difference between authoritarianism and totalitarianism or why that would matter in this regard you shouldn't speak so freely on these topics.
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>>94857620
What does that have to do with the post you responded to?
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>>94857569
>"dumb" character suddenly proves to be unexpectedly knowledgeable about a narrow topic
It's almost like that's the joke.
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Why haven't lefties just accepted that communism is a meme?
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>>94857620
This is likely the joke.

"Dumb cartoon character randonly says something inteligent" is a common joke.
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>>94857632
Thanks for proving my point dumbfuck. Fascism is a lot more specific than authoritarian, and calling anything authoritarian 'fascist' is just wrong
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>>94857669
Alt-right is LITERALLY a meme.
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>>94857511
>what the fuck
Americans tend to favor a very black and white "us vs them" mentality and because the Cold War was a thing and the Bad Guys in that were Communists it became common to just lump anything that they didn't like in with the Commies. See image related for example.

Clearly integrating the public schools was all just a Communist plot, because reasons.
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>>94857669
Because it has yet to be tried
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>>94857695
Uhhh what? You think only alt-right faggots think communism is a meme?
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>>94857684
You're right. Actually, fascism would be better. At least nationalism would hold things together, but it seems like communism is just some anti-nationalist authoritarian system with no benefits at all.
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>>94857669
Where do you see the evil lefties that said things you don't like, anon?
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Who's up for a game of is it racist?
https://youtu.be/51vFbsZkhXU
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>>94857704
No. I'm just stating that it is an actual meme. It is objectively more of a meme than any other political belief.
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>>94857488
You know...
We could also just be shitposting idiots looking for someone to crack and react.
It's kinda like gay chicken, except no one really wins and OP already lost.
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>>94857695

They're all literally memes. You know what a meme is, right?
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literally everyone who doesn't live in a coastal city is an inbred retard and that deserves a slow, painful death
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>>94857720
Evil requires power, anon. Lefties are harmless.
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>>94857729
Alt-right got the president of the most powerful nation on earth elected.

Communism broke the record for most famine deaths.
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>>94857730
>I was being retarded on purpose!
Pathetic.
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>>94857720
He sees them.
He sees them everywhere.
EVERYWHERE.
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>>94857669
The average American doesn't know the first thing about communism. Just stop this meme. Why can't the Right accept Fascism is evil?
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>>94857631
>butthurt rant spanning several paragraphs that I don't have any interest in reading
>apparently not pasta

Well it's pasta now anyway
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>>94857755
Go ahead, eurotrucker. Tell us how communism has never been tried and can actually work :)
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>>94857141
Fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>94857755
All you need to know about communism is that it can't work, and most americans already know that.
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>>94857754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AylFqdxRMwE
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>>94857749
Imagine being so delusional that you think shitposters on 4chan were responsible for the outcome of a US presidential election.
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>>94857778
Wait you think the alt-right started on 4chan?

How dumb are you?
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>>94857773
Yeah so I don't get this weird tactic of the Alt Right calling Lefties commies.
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>>94857769
What is it with people taking obvious bait lately?
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>>94857669
Does Communism work with democracy?
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>>94857755
Communism is a failure and you're a retard
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>>94857793
Oh shut the fuck up. You lefties are constantly dodging labels yet love dishing them out.

"YOU'RE A RACIST BIGOT NAZI ALT-REICH DRUMPFKIN!"

"D...did you just call me a commie?????"
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>>94856581

Go away Dan Harmon.
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>>94857803
>Does Communism work
No. Anything after these 3 words: No.
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>>94857810
Who are you quoting?
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>>94857793
Because people on the far left of the political spectrum are usually communists
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>>94857365
>facts
Except he's wrong about literally everything he said.
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>>94857793
to them liberal, socialist, communist etc. are all interchangeable terms
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>>94857822
>everyone who isn't on the right is an extremist lefty

Wow...really makes me think...
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>>94857832
How?
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>>94857669
What if communism is the perfect political system but humans are physically incapable of preforming it without fucking it up. I mean, ants and bees can do it, but asking a human society to do communism is like asking a dog to do algebra.
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>WE HAVE TO UNITE THE WORKERS AND SEIZE THE MEANS OF CAPITALISM!

>mops the shitters at a carl's jr.
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>>94857815
But, You give me a reason why he haven't work.
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>>94857803
Communism has technically never been tried on a large scale. Communism as a system is supposed to be the point after a socialist government dissolves itself into autonomous communes in loose confederation with each other. Each of these communes is supposed to be governed by direct democracy and be self-sufficient.
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>>94857752
Not the original poster of whatever it is that's climbed up your ass.

I AM an idiot shitposter though.
I just arrived too late to join in properly.

And of course we're pathetic.
That's one of the clauses accepted by clicking the 'post' button as far as I know.

This board
I'm sure it's really /co/mplaintsaboutcartoons
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>>94857862
>What if communism is the perfect political system but humans are physically incapable of preforming it without fucking it up
Then it's not the perfect political system.

If you need to remove humans from the equation to make it work, it's not perfect. It's garbage.
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>>94856781
Shut up, fag.
All politics are worthless.
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>>94857865
*gets pepperballed in scrotum*
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>>94857141
>there are people who will respond to this seriously
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>>94856581
He doesn't even say communism is good. It's true that RnM writers aren't probably going to throw in for fascism though.
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>>94857793
>I don't get this weird tactic of the Alt Right calling Lefties commies.
Conservatism in a nutshell, senpai: If at first you fail miserably, try try the same thing again:
>>94857699

This is why you have Neo-Nazis, KKK folks, and Muh Southern Pride types all coming out of the woodwork currently.
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>>94857849
Would you say it activated your almonds?

>>94857865
>people who don't actually produce anything but claim they're part of the working class anyway

Bonus points if they hate actual factory workers
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>>94857886
>All politics are worthless.

Teenager detected
Learn to care faggot
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>>94856581
I don't actually see the part where they favour one over the other, I think you are seeing things that might not be there hell they are making sure everyone knows Pol Pot the very evil dictator was Communist.
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>>94857865
>WE HAVE TO EXTERMINATE THE JEWS AND SECURE A FUTURE FOR THE WHITE WORKING CLASS

>shitposts in his basement surrounded by anime posters

dumb frogposter
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>>94857815
>does communism work
At providing an inferior society?

No you say?
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>>94857873
Well, a lot of things are supposed to do a lot of things. if "true" communism hasn't been tried yet there have been dozens of attempts, is it worth it to throw away lives in the pursuit of the "perfect" system?
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>>94857865
>mops the shitters at a carl's jr.
And then stirs the sauce with his unwashed hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcSDPQcfohY
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>>94856581
whew. the writers really fucked up on that one. pol pot was a fucking psycho and the CIA made sure he succeeded at everything he did so capitalists could smear leftists.
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>>94857934
look mommy i'm projecting
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>>94856645
So /co/ doesn't bother reading comics even to that extent. What a surprise.
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>>94856645
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>>94857810
One is true, the other is not.
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The problem with Communism is that as an ideology it doesn't take the consideration on the fact that the people who are going to sooner or later have to ration and organize these resources are very likely going to become corrupt.

Capitalism is far from perfect but the reason it's a much more optimal ideology is because it manipulates humanity's nature of greed for production. It initially take's people's want off control and power and makes it competitive, with the only way to rise is to get the interest of the people itself. The problem with capitalism however is that at a certain threshold once you reach a high enough level of power, you begin to use said wealth not to service people but to rather shut down competitors entirely and befriend politicians to control the system as you see fit. This is why full Laissez faire capitalism had to be removed (though as years have gone it's becoming pure capitalistic again).

Communism on the other hand is basically giving everything to the government on the palm of their hands then just hoping that somehow everything is going to be alright because they promised they'll do it by the books for the greater good of an ideology. Ideologies however are nothing more then words and are broken every single day.
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>>94857932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
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>>94857978
I know, dumb commie
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>>94857805
You have to be 18 to post here son.
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>>94857912
I'm not a teenager.
I just understand that they're fucking stupid.
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>>94857850
Communism doesn't serve all citizens, since it robs them of all the value they produce from redistribution to those who produce less. It also routinely genocides those citizens who disagree with their economic model (see every communist regime).
Fascism replaces private enterprise with central planning and extensive state ownership. Its totalitarian tilt allows no independence for any "private" business.
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>>94857975
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>>94857695
https://youtu.be/gnXBeQwmmrc

Just memes, bro
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>>94856603
40's comics were shit too for that same reason..
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>>94856699
>rednecks

the ruling class literally convinced whites in the south to support slavery so that poor whites wouldn't be at the bottom of the economic ladder

not to mention white right wingers continue to vote republican which is against their own economic interests

people are not bad workers or dumb, the fact of the matter is that capitalism does NOT provide a path to ascend. there are fiscal shields in place to perpetuate the interests of those with old money. that's it. there is no "going up". if hard word was rewarded, day laborers would be millionaires.

you're a fucking dumbass
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>>94857310
non of the four of those people ever did communism. Lenin instituted state capitalism, the rest are psychotic murderers did not allow workers to own the means of production
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>>94858002
>communism is literally the ideology of edgy teens
>"you must be a teen if you don't agree with my retarded shit"

What the fuck
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>guy a: i have a chicken
>guy b: i have 3 dollars
>guy a: wanna trade?
>buy b: sure

>communists: REEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU ARE LITERALLY DEHUMANIZING EACH OTHER THROUGH COMMODIFICATION REEEEEE SEIZE SEIZE SEEEEZIIIZZZEEEE
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>>94857669
I have. I'm just waiting for /pol/ to realize fascism is an even bigger meme.
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>>94857850
Pol Pot was not a communist. he just killed people and the CIA made sure he was funded and armed via proxy militias
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>>94858071
You have to be 18 to post here.
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>tfw natsoc is legitimately the best economic system, but is forever fucked because of the antisemitic history
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>>94857982

If I recall, Marx criticized Capitalism in the same way. It was a system that was focused not on people but on profit. He then screwed the pooch assuming the system itself was the problem, not the people making up the system.

It's a trend that a lot of people who look at current culture and society assume that things just popped right into existence and humans had nothing to do with their creation, but when they do recognize it they assume that it's a fucking conspiracy and they know better.

The problem is EVIL people, not human nature. If we only get rid of the EVIL people we GOOD people can be free and live in our wonderful utopian society.
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>>94857865
Well, isn't that the exact point? Uniting the workers? Am I missing something or are you a fucking dumdum? Also it's means of production, friendo.

t. not even a commie
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>>94858012
>it routinely genocides citizens who disagree with their economic model

you just described capitalism to a tee.

>fascism's totalitarian tilt allows no independence for any "private" business

fascism is literally an economic model that privatizes resources for the ruling class you lying fuck
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>>94858094
natsoc wasn't even actually socialism

it was literally just modern western capitalism with social safety nets mixed with nationalism and rad suits

also no jews which is nice
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>>94856581
>some /pol/fag overanalyzes comic
>other /pol/fags show up to circlejerk about how much they hate liberals
>/leftypol/fags come out of the woodwork, supposedly to tell off dumb /pol/fags but really as an excuse to smugly shill their own ideology
>this will go on for hundreds of replies
>A thread died for this
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>>94858031
>that's it. there is no "going up". if hard word was rewarded, day laborers would be millionaires.
Don't blame the system because you're too lazy and useless to make it work for you:

"Isaac Perlmutter was born to a Jewish family in pre-statehood Israel. He emigrated to the United States after serving in the Israeli Army during the Six-Day War of 1967. Arriving in New York City with only $250, he earned a living standing outside Jewish cemeteries in Brooklyn, leveraging his Hebrew skills to lead funeral services for tips."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Perlmutter
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>>94858099
Someone who is a fry cook doesn't count as an actual worker. He's producing nothing of true value.
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>"Lol kek Fascism is so redpilled XD! Heil Trump!"
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>>94858100
Capitalism doesn't genocide people with different worldviews like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did

And fascism seeks state control of industry retard. It bases itself upon the socialist economic model.
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>>94858095
>The problem is EVIL people, not human nature. If we only get rid of the EVIL people we GOOD people can be free and live in our wonderful utopian society.

Oy vey anon, I wonder who those evil people could possibly be
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>>94856581
THE JOKE IS THAT HE SUDDENLY WENT ON ON A DETAILED SPIEL ABOUT A SUBJECT WHEN USUALLY HE'S ALL "OH GEEzE RICK"
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>>94858134
Uh, ok. I guess that answers my question.
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>>94858123
>government can take your factory if it deems it necessary

That isn't the capitalism I know
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>>94857982
>Communism
>give everything to the government

you can only pick one. communism is a stateless society where the workers own the means of production. there is no such thing as a communist country
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>this entire fucking thread
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>>94858134
What do you produce of true value, anon?
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>>94858125
>cherry picking
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>>94858169
Are we talking about cartoons?
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>>94858095
>The problem is EVIL people, not human nature. If we only get rid of the EVIL people we GOOD people can be free and live in our wonderful utopian society.

Hate to break it to ya mate, but that'll never happen.
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>>94858124
I hate everything.
One would think that after so long we all would get to the consensus that communism is impossible to achieve, socialism and fascism are the same thing. None of them are good, picking group ideology makes you a brainless retarded zombie and we could all get to this conclusion with 3 posts max and put this to rest while sharing beverages.
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>>94858186
what do (((you))) think?
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>>94858125
>implying this would work today
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>>94857695
>why haven't lefties stopped doing a thing they've been doing for over 100 years
>BECAUSE THESE GUYS JUST SHOWED UP AND I HAVE TO BE STUPID AROUND THEM
Communism is a multi-generational delusion.
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>>94858003
Actually they're pretty important when you're an adult and have to wonder how what or which legislation is going to affect how much taxes you pay, how your insurance will change and how your children's financial futures will be impacted over the next two decades.

Also there's that whole voting and exercising your political rights thing too which makes you a better person who has interests outside of shitposting all day.

Fuck off bitch
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>>94858164
That can happen even in America today
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>>94858152
look up the history of the CIA, dumbass. the u.s. has literally death squadded any leftwing movements. Saddam Hussein had to fight leftists to gain power. the CIA helped him.

research the history of the CIA. fuck, you can research the history of the FBI. the capitalist u.s. government spied on and infiltrated any left wing political movements. it is liberals' job to act as controlled opposition to lure leftists in to voting for corporate democrats

>fascism seeks state control of industry

no shit. and when the state is controlled by capitalists, guess who profits. private interests.
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>>94858164
Yeah but instead of throwing you into gulag they'd give you a vacation and even some compensation money for the troubles once they were done
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>>94858095
>The problem is EVIL people, not human nature
Yes anon, because it's only pure chance that every pure dictatorship survive the back on oppression, poverty and the destruction of basic human rights.

People aren't innately evil, but they are innately selfish and self-serving. They do what they do not because they find enjoyment out of it but to have as good of a life to themselves and those close to them.
>>94858165
>where the workers own the means of production.
And who will these people be? Not every single person in an entire population can get together and call dibs. Whether you like it or not people are going to have to be assigned different jobs and some of those peoples jobs are to distribute the wealth.

And as it turns out they just so happen to ration themselves more then the other workers. Again, Ideologies are always broken. You're idea of a true communist society cannot function as a full nation. At best it'd survive in a small village of a hundred.
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>>94858204
ruling class's inheritance and monarchism is a generational delusion
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>>94858175
It doesn't matter because I'm not a communist and don't believe I have the right to take over other people's factories for my own benefit
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>>94858237
>redistribute wealth

corporate subsidies redistribute wealth

profit off of the workers after overhead is accounted for is redistribution of wealth

inflation is redistribution of wealth. it's a hidden tax using currency, when all currency is ultimately imaginary
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>>94857535

Then it's truly karmic that Trump shutdown the coal-mines and is fucking over the remaining workers.
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>tfw we have to live in countries instead of greek democracy city states, even though the technology exists to facilitate that
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>>94857886

Then your choice of media must be drying paint
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>>94858269
>I'm a fry cook but I'm not a communist
>as opposed to other fry cooks who totally are communists
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>>94858152
It does, the difference is that the circle of influence that benefit from it is much larger. We don't feel it, but all those child workers in China making you Nike's do.

Hell, whole corporations created Coup's just to better give us products. Look up the Banana Wars.
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>>94857669
because it isn't. human history is chock full of tribes who worked together as a collective to survive. hence humans being social organisms
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>>94857695
No memes, only dreams
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>he hates capitalism
>doesn't participate in the stock market
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>>94858237
>Yes anon, because it's only pure chance that every pure dictatorship survive the back on oppression, poverty and the destruction of basic human rights.

I think you're agreeing with me on this. It's not a surprise that every Dictatorship tends to work on a narrative of "evil outsiders are trying to ruin our wonderful and glorious society. Quick, kill them." Which is kind of the mindset I was trying out outline?
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>mods shitting up /a/ by deleting harmless threads without warning
>meanwhile /pol/ continues infecting everything else on the site

Fuck this I would rather Google buy this fucking place so we can migrate to cripple chan. These robot faggots are worthless
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Possible explanations for Calvin's Question in pic related? Also Is Calvin's Dad WOKE????
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>>94858304
pls help, I don't get the implication
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>>94858315
>expecting communists to understand something as simple as supply and demand
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>>94858304
except socialists pay taxes
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>>94858282
Why do you deliberately lie?
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>>94858094
>Legitimately best economic system
Fucking how
Hitler "saved" Germany's economy just as much as he proceeded to make it bent on almost purely war-related production, creating a unsusteinable bubble that was ready to pop as soon as military conquest alone could not provide it with more resources to fuel the war
It's like if your body spent all its energies into growing your teeth, developing the muscles in your mandible to increase chewing force and speeding up your digestion processes just so that you can eat more and more food to further fuel your growth, it's a dumb unsusteinable system
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>>94858313
Then humans specialized. You know, like intelligent beings. Once we specialized there's no going back.
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This bitch gonna hit 300
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>>94858315
>letting Jews steal from you willingly

Do you also think the lottery isn't rigged too?
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>>94858302
The communist fry cook flips burgers and thinks he should be allowed to get free shit because of it
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>>94858313
You know what these tribes didn't have? High production entertainment and art. You know, the things you use every day to not get bored, paying with your mom's money.

We know communism is impossible to be achieved for over 90 years, you fucking retards didn't get the memo?
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>>94858348
too bad capitalists can't understand that the cyclical entropy of the market guarantees that the wealthy will be able to survive change and the lower classes will never be able to recover from each concurrent economic slump. or maybe capitalists do understand that, but will never admit it or just lie about it. i suspect it's the latter.
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>>94858363
>revealing that you don't browse /co/ regularly

On /co/ threads 404 at 500
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>>94858224
Nobody reads anon.
You think anybody in this thread has read anything by adam smith or karl marx?
It's just pseudo intellectuals paraphrasing propaganda. Feels bad man.
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>>94858394
I'm also OP :^)
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>>94858360
not an argument. whether humans are specialized or not, they are still social.

automation and technological advancement makes some specialists obsolete
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>>94858072
>weeks later
>hey, you have all the chickens now, so here is your 3 dollars, can I get one?
>chickens cost 6 dollars now
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>>94858224
HAHAHAHA. The CIA literally funded the rise of feminism, you moron.
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Why do communists even try anymore?

Like, at some point you kinda have to accept that you're wasting your life trying to force a sociopolitical ideology that will never be implemented.

Don't you guys have anything better to do all day?
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>>94858364
nigger, negro, darkie, coonskin, my black brother.

I make money by doing nothing all day.

I let others borrow wealth i accumulated over a couple of years, and multiplied it as a plus, and even get tasty dividends every couple of months as a bonus.

I don't do SHIT all day and I can afford vidya brand fucking new off steam all day every day.

the only one stealing shit is me, man, and you're an idiot for not doing the same.
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>>94858417
Why did the socialist government take everyone's chickens away except for that guy's?
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>>94858313

So you're saying you want to go back to a system that had a lower quality of life and an average life expectancy of 16?
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>>94858423
this is bait
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>>94857488

One by one every board I love has fallen to /pol/.
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>>94858416
It just takes one greedy person to fuck up your little meme tribe though.

What happens when Jamal takes all the food and eats it by himself? Remember: you have no police because that's fascism :)
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>>94858426
They are control fetishists.
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>>94858426
hey aren't you late for running the rat race? why aren't you slaving away in a cubicle somewhere, living a life of quiet desperation and a mortgage while your kids try and fail to get a job so they put themselves in college debt?
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>>94858453
Here you go anon
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>>94858453
CIA feminism 60's, would take you 5 seconds to google it and learn something new instead of typing shit on an imageboard.
Go read something.
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>>94858452
nope. cool strawman argument tho
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>>94858499
>communist makes fun of the working class
This is why no one will accept you faggots.
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>>94858426
A part of human nature is rebellion, especially those that have greater power then you. People will always dream of the better option, even if it really is nothing more then that, an over-idolized dream.
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>>94858431
Posts like these make it sound all so easy, is it really?
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>>94858094
the one time it was tried it was a complete disaster
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>>94858531
yeah but why do that when you could be playing Sonic Mania
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>>94858470
then there'd be a revolution against jamal.

but that's not the case. the real scenario is Wunsler corporation getting subsidies from liberals and ponzi scheme evangelicals because capitalists control the state.
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>>94858436
Are you fucking stupid? No one gave anything away, they traded a tangible commodity for an intangible one with a fluctuating value.
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>>94858335
>migrate to cripple chan
Fuck no, that's even worse. At least here the mods aren't asspained /pol/tards themselves.
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>>94858551
It's a very simple and possible case though.

You have a tribe of say, 100 people. What stops 10 of those people from looting and killing everyone else then moving on to another tribe?
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>>94856581
This just reminds me that Pol Pot was a good boy who did nothing wrong. You glasses wearing intellectuals wouldn't understand though.
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>>94858452
t. supports modern day corpo-feudalism slavery
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>>94858516
that's also cherry picking. just because gloria steinem is liberal trash doesn't mean a real left wing movement wasn't infiltrated by the ruling class, just like all the other left wing movements
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>>94858560
Then don't eat chicken, faggot. Go eat some beef instead. The chicken guy will lower his price eventually.
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>mfw communists have devolved their arguments into "remember when we were cavemen n shiieeett"
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>>94858529
what's that? you vote against your own interests? you triggered, snowflake? i'm not attacking the working class at all. i'm attacking your dipshit capitalist sentiments. you're just making personal attacks and can't take your own medicine.

i'll bet you claim to support the troops and vote for capitalists politicians that send them to wars over lies, too.
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>>94858580

It's better than your bullshit government-slavery-that-totally-hasn't-been-tried-before-and-will-totally-work-this-time-guys-I-swear!
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>>94858604
>people actually believe this
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>>94858569
>muh hypothetical bullshit

the tribe would stop the criminal. tribes existed for thousands of years. you think that community justice never happened or something? you're reaching and a troll
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>>94858640
I did it last month. Chicken prices went up so I switched to beef.
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>>94858638
>my shit system is better than this shit system!
>I win! AH AH!
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>>94858640

People believe you can eat other kinds of food? Yeah they do. Most people don't live exclusively on fried chicken.
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>>94858638
it HAS been tried before. and those movements are death squadded and subverted by capitalists.
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>>94858652
You can't just ignore variables and hypotheticals that are very plausible.

I only like to make these hypothetical because it reveals how you dumb commies are willing to wither your system down to fucking prehistorical ages lmao.
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>>94858653
>the same guy sold you both and you think you're sending a message.

I wish I was stupid. Seems like an easier life but at least you've given me a ni e glimpse
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>>94858640
believe what? the reality that corporations buy up smaller corporations?
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>>94858665

I mean yeah pretty much. How sad is your argument that you even lose to your own strawman?
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>>94858689
I'm not sending a message. I'm responding to market forces.

not everything is some dumb rebellion you edgy faggot lmao
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>>94858618
>mfw right wingers refuse to understand that real traditional values meant that collectives of individuals worked together and shared
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>>94858713
>stop buying his chicken and he will be forced to lower prices
>not everything's a rebellion
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>>94858716
Then why don't you dumb commies just fuck off to some island and live as a collective and leave the rest of us alone?
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>>94858686
>look at me! i'm a capitalist denying human history!
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>>94858735
>he thinks prices are only decided by consumer demand

Why are commies so stupid, lads?
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>>94858348

Because that's all economics is. They sit down students with a supply/demand chart and pass out their diplomas after 45 minutes.
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>>94858669

>it's the capitalists' fault that communists put people in death camps
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>>94858740
>look at me! i'm a communist that thinks we should be cavemen again!
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>>94858711
Yes, keep believing communism is the only alternative.
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>>94858737

we would, but capitalists would murder us.

it's already happened dozens of times. death squads, proxy militias, false flag attacks, economic hitmen, puppet dictators, regime change.
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>>94858737
The hard truth:

That island doesn't have iPhones and Hollywood movies.

Commies are addicted to capitalist products and are in total denial about it.
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>>94858737
Because someone eventually comes along and discovers and colonizes this island.

RE: Mark Zukkerburg sueing native Hawaiians for their land
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>>94858775
The weak don't deserve to live.
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>>94858767
>educated cavemen with technology and a sustainable civilization is bad

we've got a livewire, folks
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>>94858769

Well you sure haven't put one forward. All you've done is shitpost and try to feel superior about your complete lack of understanding of economic systems. I believe in what works and capitalism works. No other system implemented has offered as high a quality of life for so many people. Show me something better and I'll believe in that.
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>>94858748
I'm only repeating what anon said earlier, either you're the same guy shooting his own argument in the foot or you're someone else who can't follow a conversation
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>>94858775
>those people who did awful things weren't REAL communists!
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>>94858787
>>94858775
>our system can work if no one sabotages it!

That's not how it works. If it can't survive geopolitics with capitalist nations, it's inherently weak and doesn't work.
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>>94858781
commies are coerced in to capitalist societies and have to have IT that might or might not have been constructed with conflict minerals because there are no warning lables on the products, to have a job. try again
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>>94858795
>he says while living in a first world with an entire system built around protecting the weak
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>>94858816
Might makes right, eh?
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>>94858803
>communism
>sustainable

History has told us otherwise.
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>>94858795
lol you hate babies or something?
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>>94858840
Unironically yes. Your moral high ground means fuck all when there's a gun to your temple, anon. Welcome to the real word
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>>94858814
the people that do those awful things are literally capitalists. Lenin insituted state capitalism. Stalin was a brutal dictator nationalist, did not allow the workers to own the means of production and had deals with Ford motor company
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>>94858812
t. ignorant fool
>show me
Pay me, no charity for you
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>>94858538
Not anon your responding to, but yeah.
My intial investment was $180. $80 for a subscription to the wall street journal and $100 to start in 'micro transactions'. The trick is the stocks don't represent the value of the the company/commodity. They're representative of what people 'think' the value is, and people are sheep. I pop open the paper, see whats 'hot', buy a couple of hundred dollars worth and dump it 72 hours later. I started two months ago and I've got $4000 in the bank. The more money I have, the more I can make and I'm not taking any fucking chances since my moneys only floating around for a couple days. Once I build up a war chest (I'm shooting for $10000) I'll start playing with long term investments. Probably bonds. The hard part is not blowing your first $200 return on a bag of weed and some vidya.
It's all bullshit anon. Not even complicated bullshit.
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>>94858821
BIG MEAN CAPITALISM TRICKED ME INTO BUYING THIS $5 BATMAN COMIC WAHHHHHH
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>>94857737
>Lefties are harmless
Latin america wants a word with you.
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>>94858860
so why do you have a problem with a proletariat uprising that kills the working class?

oh wait that's right. you're a fucking hypocrite.
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>>94858868
NOT ACSKUAHL COMMUNISM

lmao
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>>94858887
Latin america is busy trying to save Venezuela from socialism right now. Try again later.
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>>94858881
>being forced to live in a capitalist society or be homeless is a choice, not a threat

you're dumb
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>>94858898
You don't have to live in a capitalist society, anon. There are tons of shitholes you can live in around the world.
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>>94858889
>MUH WORDS HAVE NO MEANING HURR DURR
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>mfw capitalism will forever be a meme there's nothing you can do about it
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>>94858896
the maduro government got loans at a high interest rate from goldman sachs. goldman sachs was also involved in loans to greece if that tells you anything

>>94858909
>there are tons of shitholes you can live in around the world

and all of them are exploited by capitalist super powers. the u.s. invades, bombs and sends economic hitmen to countries, african countries still pay colonial taxes to france, etc.
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>>94858868

And this my friend is exactly why communism can never be. Communism isn't a government it's a religion. It can never fail, it can only be failed by the unworthy people.

Governments exist to account for the imperfections of human beings. If we weren't imperfect we would have no need of government. If all it takes to cause your idea of the perfect government to fail is basic human self interest, it cannot possibly be considered a viable government.
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>>94858762
capitalists put people in death camps, buddy. the nazi war machine owed its existence to u.s. corporations
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>>94858958
>makes a case for the state
>state is controlled by capitalists
>capitalism rewards the imperfection of human beings

kill yourself
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>>94858909
How do you suggest anyone leaves a capitalist society without having the capital?

I'm sure someone living hand to mouth can find the cash for a passport and plane ticket, right?
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>>94858197
>socialism and fascism are the same thing

no the fuck they aren't, liar. fascism is a merger of state and corporate power for private interests.

it's like you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
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>>94859058
>it's like you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
Welcome to the thread
Welcome to 4chan
Welcome to the human race
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>>94858003
well duh. even a teenager knows more than you. are you 12?
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>>94858059
>>94858012
>>94856581
>>94856699
>>94856781
>>94857365
>>94857488
>>94857561

For the last 150 years capitalism has worked as an effective economic and political system for every country that has used it.

Communism failed. Track the same 150 year and communism is responsible for, just in mass killings, before we even consider starvation and other misfortunes, a body count between 85 and 100 million people.

Capitalism is a great force for modern good. No wonder every formerly communist country, including Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, and a bunch of others, scrapped communism. Capitalism is it's scrappy replacement and it's working. All of their countries are wealthier and happier now, because of capitalism.

God bless capitalism.
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>>94858125
>born into a jewish family
>Perlmutter
>israeli jew
>working for anything
If you are a jew in ny you will make bank regardless of what you do. Even if you have no talent they will hook you up. You will never see a jew starving in the streets.

The only people who ever move up via hardwork are creatives. Useful idiots eventually get mass produced and their fields become less, see any STEM field right now with the outsourcing to india and china. Creatives are much harder to mass produce.
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