Cover Thread

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>>94853929
Man, I'm not enjoying the Batman crossover.

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>>94853929

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>>94853929

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I love March's RHATO variant covers

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>>94854229

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>>94854270

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>>94854301

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>>94853929

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>>94854561

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>>94854561

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>>94854621
>>94854686
Chaykin art is illegal.

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He is great! I love how he does the shdows rings >>94854719

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>>94854561
>>94854651
For the love of god

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The Shadow Knows

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This is the cover that got me into The Shadow

>>94854013
Why not ?

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I like this cover even if it's false advertising

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>>94854895
I feel like he's being written out of character. His relationships with his agents feels off. It really bothers me how Harry and Margo have grown to resent him. I also feel like his interactions with Batman could have been written so much better because I've see how the Shadow deals with conflicting philosophy when he works with Doc Savage, Green Hornet, and the Avenger.

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>>94853929

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>>94855067
I completely agree and I'm glad to not be the only one who notices this. Especially when Harry tells Batman "he's held a gun to my head for 80 years", it's just completely backwards to what Harry Vincent actually was.
I really think this is because Snyder and Orlando took way too much influence from the Howard Chaykin series where The Shadow was a colossal egotistical dickhead to his agents and they feared and resented him for it. You can tell Snyder and Orlando mostly read that and made some passing glances at the wiki and that's what they know about the character. There's also this bit where Margo is talking about the great villains of The Shadow and she mentions Khan and Mostradamus, as if Monstradamus was actually a super memorable nemesis and not a forgettable and lame villain from what's regarded as the worst Shadow pulp ever written by Gibson. That just shows how poorly informed they are.

To their credit, they are at least trying to make this into some form of character arc for The Shadow, with Margo telling him that he needs to reconnect with his humanity and, with The Joker going after them next issue, presumably The Shadow will start acting better.
And I still prefer a more mysterious and sinister version of The Shadow than what Dynamite has been doing with the character recently.

Speaking of which, there's a sequel to this series coming on November published by Dynamite, with Batman and Damian and The Shadow vs The SIlent Seven.
The art doesn't look great and I don't like Damian but I'm glad they are actually inserting pulp villains this time, and The Silent Seven was a great pulp, so maybe this one will be more faithful to the spirit of the character. I hope.

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>>94855782
We're on the same page. I really dislike all the work Chaykin did for the Shadow for similar reasons I dislike this series so you're pretty spot on.

I thought about how this comic had a lot of good ideas but poor execution. Margo talking about reconnecting with his humanity is a great idea and I've seen it before as it was the premise of the Twilight Zone Shadow crossover. The Shadow learns that there is value in remembering who Kent Allard was. In the Batman crossover I get a feeling nothing is going to come of Margo's comments because if her words where going to effect the Shadow why wouldn't they have in the decades before?

In general I feel like the writers would have really benefited from reading some of the good Shadow comics to get a better feel for his personality.

>>94856150
Yup, The Twilght Zone Shadow was pretty great in exploring his history and developing an arc for him

>I get a feeling nothing is going to come of Margo's comments because if her words where going to effect the Shadow why wouldn't they have in the decades before?

Well you might want to read the latest issue, by the way.
Because it kind of connects into what we were talking about.
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>>94856495
I read it. Did I miss something? I know Margo made a comment that the Shadow doesn't care about them then he corrects her when he comes to save them. He also tells Margo that he trusts her. I got the impression that he's always felt this way that more than Margo's words moved him to change his attitude.

>>94854778
Samnee is too good for the shitshow that is marvel today

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>>94856729
>I got the impression that he's always felt this way that more than Margo's words moved him to change his attitude.
I think that's the gist of it.

Margo and The Shadow have always had some slight communication problems because Margo often feels like The Shadow doesn't trust her or that he is going too far off, even in the first episode of the radio show where she was introduced she tries talking him into letting the police handle criminals and she remarks that she knows little about him.
Margo is often described as a "helfpul nuisance" because she more or less crash-landed into The Shadow's life and she is less willing to go along with his plans than, say, Harry. So sometimes The Shadow treats Margo like any other agent, and some of the time he treats her like anybody else who doesn't know about Lamont not really being his identity. Sometimes he explains what he’s doing and other times he doesn’t explain jack shit, and even in the radio show where she is his only agent they argue over this.

For what it's worth, the comic got some of this right. And I'm glad they kind of settled things.

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>>94857080
In The Shadow Strikes Margo was a great agent. There was an arc where Harry was extremely worried about her to the point where the Shadow dismissed him from being an agent because, as was revealed later, Margo was doing undercover work. I definitely prefer her being a capable agent because she's just more interesting that way. In Wagner's comics she fits into the helpful nuisance category but I found her relationship with Lamont to be very sweet.

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>>94854229
>>94854270
>>94854301
>>94854329
I want Artemis to make me her bitch!

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BEST COVER EVER

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>>94862559
>when you don't know what evil lurks in the boobage of women