ITT: Worst version of a character

I think you mean best

>>94839838
I think mom made a mistake by drinking while she was pregnant with you John, sorry you were born so fucking retarded.

>>94839808
That's not injustice Supes

>>94839838
First post worst post

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>>94839808
Name a worse version of Luthor. Protip, you can't.

>>94839923
Before Joker and Hatley blew up metropolis, he was a better superman than SnySupes.

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>>94839808
Both of them.

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>>94839808
You're thinking of pic related. He's such a fucking douche that i honestly thought they were going to retcon him into being Superboy Prime in superman reborn.

>>94840015
Do you always judge comic book characters without having read anything with them or you just have a hateboner for Superbro?

so electric supes is vindicated now?

>>94839929
this

>>94839808
This is only decent Superman to ever exist. It's too bad MoS's legacy is being attached to BvS, and a Wonder Woman chick flick of all things. I hope MoS2 manages to be just as good, but I have a feeling they'll try pandering to the Marvel audience just like WW.

>>94840015
Nice meme.

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Ah, so since no one's mentioned Baraka yet, I assume this is just a Snyder hate thread?

you're a marvel fanboys

>>94840258
Fanboy Dumb ass and yes i am a marvel fanboy the dceu is garbage

>>94840293
DCEU may be garbge but still better than Spider-Man Homecoming.

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Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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>>94840471
shut the fuck up spiderman homecoming is better than any dc movie

man of steel was garbage i would watch a thor movie other than this piece of shit fuck the dceu

>>94839808
Stalking creeper and deadbeat dad Superman from Returns was much worse.

>>94840471
Homecoming is unironically better than every DCEU movie, and it's not even that great

>>94840666
its part of the dceu right so fuck it

>>94839964
Snyder supes didn't kill Billy or unleash Doomsday on a city

>>94840677
go fuck your self you mother fucker

>>94839808
Injustice Superman.

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>>94839808
Petty, passive-aggressive letter-hiding Alfred is worst Alfred.

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>Replies: 20
>Posters: 12

Why are Marvel fanbois so aggressively anti-DCEU? It's almost pathological.

Marvel fans are cool, but the fanboys are obscene with their hate.

Anyways, worst Green Lantern

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>>94840750
One of the worst comic book interpretations period.

>>94840756
fuck the dceu your movies are garbage god awful cgi

>>94840219
>I assume this is just a Snyder hate thread?

ALL OF THEM, ANON. Even the Whedon hate threads, Ike hate threads, Morrison/Miller/Moore hate threads, they are all Snyder hate threads

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this atrocity

>>94840589
>>94840677
Not really, you guys are just plebs.
Spider-Man 3 is better than Spider-Man Homecoming.
Homeocming is on the same level of quality as Suicide Squad if anything.

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>>94840782
I mean, maybe he's a passable Harvey Dent (whatever that is beyond "earnest DA"), but I'd like to see a worse Two Face. Or rather, I wouldn't.

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>>94840824
Worst Babs?

>>94839929
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>94840698
Technically he did the latter by not disposing of Zod's corpse. If he has to hide himself for years because otherwise people might try to experiment on him, why would he lack such foresight that he would leave the last remaining example of his species lying around?

>>94840818
Bullshit

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>>94840843

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>>94840782
I honestly can't say he's absolutely worse than the Super Scope Cosplayer Doom

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/b/raniac

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>>94839808

>>94840900
As bad as that death scene was he was a good Pa Kent otherwise.

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>>94839808

>>94840922
Name a worse Pa Kent, I'll wait.

>>94840922
Still the worst by default sadly.

>>94840899
Great argument, would you like to talk about Rick & Morty now my fellow redditor?

>>94840964
The Smallville and Reeve movie ones

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Amazingly, still manages to be a contender.

>>94841013
Not even close.

>>94841010
>Great argument
>Only defense is /tv/ memes
Nice, dude

>>94840796
I don't plan to watch it. What was so bad about him?

>>94839928
>*Best
Had a typo there, sorry

>>94841013
He wasn't enough of a figure in Reeve for me to agree or disagree but definitely not Smallville. Smallville Jonathan Kent is what Goyer's tried to be and failed.

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>>94841139

>>94841128
He's fucking whiny as shit and also bad at Kung-fu

Granted that's just becuase the actor sucks but holy shit really it's a kung fu show nigga

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>>94841181
...somehow...

>>94841201
We don't know anything about his character yet tho

Holy shit he looks like something from the iRobot movie

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>Peter Parker is bitten by radioactive piano wire.

>>94841128
Unlikable personality and the actor cannot fake fight at all

Even with the bad choreography, the supposed Greatest Martial Artist Ever at times barely holds his own against rent-a-cops and low level goons.

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>>94839808
Cloud Galactus
Ocean of Poo Parallax
ASM Goblin
"I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch"
Movie Malekith
Carey's Joker-Riddler

>>94840919
I legit like how that design of the Thing looks though. Kind of horrifying and adorable at the same time. Was this version where he could transform whenever he wanted?

>>94841219
>Holy shit he looks like something from the iRobot movie
But that's impossible. He's not wearing antique Converse® sneakers™

>>94840883
>Technically he did the latter by not disposing of Zod's corpse
No that would come off like hiding evidence & suspicious as fuck.
Consider how people still question Osama since body photos were never released & Zod did alot worse then Osama.
>If he has to hide himself for years because otherwise people might try to experiment on him
HIDING WAS NEVER ABOUT HIM.
After the maybe line Pa Kent said "there is more at stake then our lives or the lives of those around us".
>>94840015
>He's such a fucking douche
When? SERIOUSLY where in the fuck does this notion that n52 Superman was a dick come from??? Besides MAYBE the first arc of JL.
Even the depowered arc which was garbage had him hanging out with kids.
>>94840172
>This is only decent Superman to ever exist
Mos is my 2nd favorite movie but you can fuck off.
>>94840477
No absolutely nothing fucking wrong with him whatsoever.
And don't you dare fucking say racist, read the Ultimates 2 Annual & fuck off.
>>94840666
>Stalking creeper
Making sure your loved ones are safe is stalking...
>deadbeat dad
NOT BEING AWARE OF YOUR CHILD'S EXISTENCE BECAUSE A BITCH DIDN'T INFORM YOU IS NOT FUCKING DEADBEAT DAD-ISM.
FUCK YOU.
>>94841064
No the one who threatened to gouge out Alfred's eyes for faintly verbally insulting her in Hush is worse.

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>>94841390

ITT: People who have very little experience with multiple versions of characters

>>94841306
>"I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch"
Are you perhaps implying that he's not the best version?

>>94841208
Yeah right. New52 arrow is worse

Every DCEU character except Batman and Harley Quinn

>>94840172
>This is only decent Superman to ever exist
Go to bed Zack, you can't even type well.

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>>94840824
We never had Two-Face in a movie.
Tommy Lee Jones played a very corny Joker with some ugly half-assed make-up.
Aaron Eckhard played a very, very angry Harvey Dent.

I think William Shatner will probably be the first actor in a Batman movie to ever play a character who is actually Two-Face

>>94841571
Your a god damn fucking liar in regardless to Lois, the is the most subtle, least bitchy, least hysterical, least overly emotional, most competent Lois in the history of live action.

>>94840927
Calendar man?

>>94841018
Only because of the costume, Oscar Isaac chewing the scenery is always great to watch.

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Impossible to beat.

>>94841619
>Most competent
>Throws staff away, has to go get it later, needs to be saved doing it

>>94841619
That's because she's the second most boring character besides Superman.

>>94841723
Throwing away the "kills Superman" glow rod is the opposite of a bad idea

And she's consistently hyper-competent, she figured out Superman's identity rapidly in MOS, and she figured out Lex set up the incident in Africa to frame Superman in BVS

>>94841018
>>94841693
No the costume was great, it just needed to be fucking taller, have the white make up to contrast the blue-ish armor, have his eyes dulled the entire film, his normal pupils I feel really were what killed his menace, Isaac just does not have a scary face, Idris Elba who was up for the role would have looked alot better.

>>94839808
>Not the Injustice Superman
Bruh

>>94841723
I was referring to her competence as a reporter.
Throwing the staff away was perfectly reasonable she would not want criminals OR the goverment to come across it. She wasn't aware of Doomsday at that point.

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>>94841858
Don't forget the tubes

>>94841913
He had the tubes they were just tighter to his arms as to not be out & about where they could be grabbed easily or cut.

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Post-Catch and Release Peridot fucking sucks compared to when she was a villain. She was much better as a snarky confident technician, not some "lol randum :3" midget.

>>94841883
>>94839923
>>94840698
I meant worse as in the character is total shit.

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I'm pretty okay with how the Flash TV show adapted the baddies for the most part, but God damn did they screw up Top.

>>94841858
>Idris Elba
Would've led to endless WE WUZ posting. I mean that happens with original non swapped characters but still. Did people not care that a hispanic played an Egyptian?

>>94842010
>Top is a girl and fucks Mirror Master
I see nothing wrong

>>94839929
It's cherry.

>>94839980
but Superman did nothing wrong

>>94841128
They also fucked over his origin by not making him motivated by revenge then realizing it was pointless.

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>>94840756
>He doesn't like the hot garbage fire that is the DCEU
>It must be because he's a company wars Marvel fanboy
>It has nothing to do with the DCEU's lack of quality
What if I told you, you're the annoying aggressive fanboy

>>94840750
shit taste man, Caine was a sublime Alfred

>>94841945
I still want to to lewd things to Peridot,
going so far as to hand her a human biology textbook so when I stab her to poofing she can reform with the needed parts.

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>>94842305
>Outright carped at an adult man for his life choices like a Jewish Mom
>Hid Rachel's "I'm not really into you" letter
>FOR 8 FUCKING YEARS, while Bruce imploded and hid in an attic, allowing his family's company to fall to shit
>Bruce finally shakes it off to save his city from annihilation
>Alfred throws the letter's existence into his face as a final "Fuck you for wanting to be Batman" and quits.

You cannot be fucking serious.

>>94840756
>fanboys are obscene with their hate.
That's true about any fanbase. Are you gonna say kinoposters are better than whatever is their Marvel equivalent?

>>94839929
>Make a decent Riddler
>Call it Lex

>>94841336
Yes

>>94842447
Understandable. I'll admit, back before Peridot was revealed to be short, I had a bit of an amputee fetish for her. But now my dreams of having a snarky intelligent cyborg-alien waifu are crushed.

>>94839929
>Name a worse version of Luthor.

The Kevin Spacey one. Incredibly cringe and hopelessly outdated version of him.

>>94839808
Not even close. Sorry OP. You just don't like him because he isn't just copying Christoper Reeves performance and is doing a different take on the character. In other words

>not muh

>>94842612
Not op, and not a Superman fan so I don't have a "not muh" problem. My problem with the character is that he was a 33 year old faggot that not only couldn't face that guy at the diner, but also needed a father figure to tell him to stop being a pussy and face Zod.

>>94842725
> Hiding so society doesn't fall apart as a result your presence would bring...
> Being a pussy...

>>94843029
>Alien baddy says that if you don't come out, he'll fuck shit up
>Still hide because he "doesn't trust mankind" and needs someone else to tell him to fucking do it
Yeah, that's a great Superman allright.

>>94839929
>>94840133
>>94840867
>>94842141
>>94842505
both Kevin Spacy and Hackman were less faithful to the source material you plebs

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>>94839808
nah

>>94843140
Not really. They felt like silver age, and some early Luthor.

DCEU version was just shit.

>>94843140
OP didn't speak about faithfulness, but whether they were the worst versions of the characters or not. Nolan's Batman universe is not very faithful but it's a good version of it, for instance.

>the worst version of [thing] ever
>90% of suggestions are from the last few years
Why are you people so incapable of doing even a tiny bit of research

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>>94843153
>visibly emotionally distraught

>>94841945
I want this meme to die. Have you seen Back to the Barn, It Could've Been Great, Too Far, or Log Date 7 15 2? She was still snarky and confident at that point. She was only a villain for what, 5 episodes? How is her behaviour in Keeping It Together or Friend Ship any different?
I will concede that sometime around Barn Mates she became unbearable, but I really don't get the newfound hate for most post-CaR Peri episodes.

>>94843434
You know, 4chan makes autism joke all the time, and I use to think it was stupid, but seeing this post, I think you guy are right. The autism is strong here. One of the major signs of autism is not being able to read facial expression, so subtlety is lost on autists. Not being able to see the emotion in that shot, proves actual autism.

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Fuck pic related, holy shit. Why did they think making this guy wildcat was alright?

>>94841700
>that part where they go to his apartment and diggle goes "yeah yeah born on a monday let's get this over with"

>>94839808
The casting wasn't the problem. Cavill is a good enough actor to pull of a decent supes. The problem is that it had a shitty ass director who tried to make a Batman movie with Superman.

>>94841700
Did you see Mirror Master in the Flash show?

>>94839808
There are worse but he's still kinda bad.

>>94839929
BOYS

Fuck snyder for what he did to him. Fucking god.

>>94841390
>Even the depowered arc which was garbage had him hanging out with kids
To molest them

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>>94839808

>>94841390
>NOT BEING AWARE OF YOUR CHILD'S EXISTENCE BECAUSE A BITCH DIDN'T INFORM YOU IS NOT FUCKING DEADBEAT DAD-ISM.
FUCK YOU
She wasn't even as ARD that she had had sex with him because he erased her memory you dumb fuck.
Sleeping with her erasing her memory ans then not staying around makes this all Superman's fault

>>94843724
He looks like he farted.

>>94844169
You just don't get how kino that scene is

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>>94839929
>Name a worse version of Luthor.

Well hello there!

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>>94841143

>>94843140
Hackman/Spacy was perfectly faithful to pre-Crisis Luthor, newfag.

>>94844256
>"You can call us Lex Squared"
wat

>>94840090
By comparison, yes.

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>>94840172
>This is only decent Superman to ever exist.

>>94842280
>He doesn't like the hot garbage fire that is the DCEU

But marvelcucks dont even see DCEU Movies.
Everytime a WW or BVS Webm is posted all marvel cucks are like "HAHA SO IT IS REALLY THAT BAD" Which proves their empty shitposting.

>>94840756
Nigger my favorite superhero ANYTHING is DC, specifically All-Star Superman.

And that's exactly why I hate Snyder's take.

>>94840922
>he was a good Pa Kent
"All I'm saying, Clark, is... maybe let the children drown next time."

>>94840964

How is he the worst? Because he was a loving, but flawed person who was a little out of his depth?

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How quickly they forget. I almost envy you.

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>>94841306
>Carey's Joker-Riddler
>elsewhere ITT we have Eisenberg's Riddler-Luthor
Is there a Luthor-Joker out there?

>>94844430
He didn't say "I think you should have let them die" he said "I don't know", pleb.

Topher Grace as Venom in Spider-Man 3. He didn't even get ripped for the part.

>>94844352
That's what that writer thinks smart people sound like.

Young Justice Joker

>>94844474
>not understanding exaggeration for comedic effect
How's the autism treating you?

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>>94844515
THIS
H
I
S

>>94843692
Because as of Catch and Release, she became a totally different character. She became short when she didn't need to be (she could have kept her limb enhancers or been normal sized). And she became more "cutesy", made ":3" faces, and overall became more pathetic. She was downgraded overall.

>>94844407
>But marvelcucks dont even see DCEU Movies.
You just make yourself look stupid when you lie, you know.

Or are you saying that having seen several DCEU films means that one is not a marvelcuck?

Because I've seen almost every film put out by both companies. I've liked most of the Marvel ones since the first Iron Man. I've disliked every DC one since the end of Nolan's trilogy.

>>94843891
I honestly don't care. Maybe I just don't care about MM or Top.

>>94844463
i thought he was ok

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>I know nothing about this character but I still feel triggered

>>94844689
DOUBLE BLACKFACE

Seriously, though, sometimes you NEED to diverge from the comics look.

>>94844782
You wanna fucking square up nigga?

>>94844738

His only problem is that he's too nerdy, and not enough ripped.

>>94841390
>No that would come off like hiding evidence & suspicious as fuck.
Whatever man. He gave the Zod he killed in the comics (the one you fuckers never shut up about) an honorable burial and maybe if he werne't such an antisocial douche he could actually just TELL people he was giving Zod a burial so people wouldn't use/desecrate his corpse but you're just gonna defend this shit no matter what aren't you. There's literally nothing Snyder could do to lose you.

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>>94844118
Nope

>>94844854
you MUST be baiting!

>>94841619
Lois is blunt and kind of a bitch. That's her character. She's an army brat tomboy.
So yes, making her subtle and less bitchy means she's gonna be the worst version of that character. She's a NEW character and one *you* like more. That's not the same thing.

>>94844805
I didn't hate him thought he was okay

>>94844854
That's the worst LOOKING Joker, but not the worst overall.

>>94844888

>worst looking

>not the MomFreaker Juggalo

>>94844974
Correct. The white gorilla looks worse.

Not by much, I'll grant you.

>>94841087
I mean its not like he has a lot to compete with MM isn't exactly all that popular. Also fuck you I like it.

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>>94839808

What's worse, man of steel or injustice?

>>94844782

Nope.

>>94839808
>Snyderman worse than Injusticeman
I mean I know you're still triggered about Wonder Woman winning 2017 capebowl but calm the fuck down shill

>>94844866
Dceu Lois still had snark & bluntness. Just like Tas Lois.
But she wasn't a insufferable unbearable cunt like Kidder/Bosworth.
The bluntness & snark is suppose to be endearing not make you hate her.

>>94845411
Man of Steel, but only because Injustice is openly an alternate universe.

Nobody's going to look at Injustice Supes and think that's who Superman really is.

>>94845513
Hatcher > TaS > Kidder/Bosworth = Adams

>>94845513

Whatever personality Lois had in MoS was sucked out by BvS, she was another robot like everyone else.

I didn't know Amy Adams could deliver a performance that flat, but Snyder is always breaking new ground.

>>94844148
And do you think he would have done that had he known she was pregnant?

>>94846053
He is Superman. It's not really hard to find out whether she's pregnant before vanishing.
Heard of x-ray vision?

>>94845513
Well, that's your opinion.
I haven't found any DCEU characters endearing yet. I'm hoping Wonder Woman changes that but I'm not holding my breath.

>>94844782
God I want to punch this faggot.

>>94842572
WROOOOOOONG

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Here's a question: who is the BEST film adaptaion of a character, in your mind? As far as I'm concerned, there have been a lot of well-adapted movies but this guy is head and shoulders above the rest, made the leap totally unscathed and any recast will be a crying shame.
I'm not joking.

>>94839929
this, i fucking hate the dcu lex luthor, triggered me even more when i listen to snyder reasoning for giving him the role, he was originally suppose to be jimmy the wheelchair guy, but snyder thought his talent was a waste and wanted him for lex luthor..

>>94839929
Can't name a best live action one.

>>94846780
He's everything i imagined when and i was 100% certain they wouldn't do him justice in the movie.

>>94844689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKZJ74cb2nk

>>94842572
Kevin Spacey's prometheus speech manages to edge him over Eisenlex who did the same thing but longer and impossibly worse.
And really "updating" characters almost never works so I don't know why out of date is inherently bad. Even if I do wish they'd have gotten away from the fucking real estate schemes.

>>94846780
That's a fact.

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>>94840666
Sure. It seems odd that he'd have intercourse with Lois without a condom and leave but because that's so unlike (Donner) Superman I'm gonna assume he wanted to tell her his identity. But before he could, his original planet was discovered to possible be around and he had to choose.
That said, I actually hold Routh's Superman in high regard. See, when he sees his planet is, indeed, in smithereens, and then he comes back to see that he has, literally, been cuckold'd; every thing he does in the movie is a reflection of his angst. He buries himself in his superhero job and has no time to bring closure with Lois and his son because Luthor is up to something. It all ramps up in the final confrontation (along with a lightning storm crackling as it's initiated) and he basically fights through something that would definitely kill him, in a gesture that comes off as a literal suicide mission.
Then he comes to see his kid (I forget if he knew or not) as he accepts that he can't have a life with the woman he fell in love with.


>TL;DR Singer Superman was the most emotionally investive character to date.

>>94846854
Ironically, his bigger role ended up being nothing but an even bigger waste of his talent.

>>94846597
>I'm hoping Wonder Woman changes that but I'm not holding my breath.
It does. WW and Steve Trevor are very likeable, and I really liked the supporting cast too. Unlike any of the other DCEU films, the strongest point of this one was the characters and their interaction, and that aspect of the movie more than makes up for any of its shortcomings. So I'd say it's gonna pay off in that aspect for you.

>>94844256
>have a duo of Lex and Alexandra Luthor
>bait and switch the audience by killing off Lex and making Alexandra the evil genius bent on killing Superman

It's honestly not a bad idea for an elseworld story but god damn why not just make them siblings? Making them a married couple that just happen to have the same given name is silver age levels of contrived.

>>94845685
>I didn't know Amy Adams could deliver a performance that flat
Snyder can't direct actors at all. It's almost as if he doesn't understand humans. Seeing Gadot and Pine in Wonder Woman really helps to illustrate how a director should never neglect acting direction.

>>94847650
Why did he leave X3 for this? He always teases the phoenix then leaves.

>>94845411
>>94845664
Your fucking psychotics if you think Superman killing a physical equal to save BILLIONS of lives is comparable to murder of a human after the crime has been committed & the killer is unarmed.

>>94844742
Absolutely fucking not.

>>94848163
Then maybe they shouldn't have made Zod more sympathetic than the Joker.
Or maybe you should just get over the fact that people dislike Snyderman. It's been like five years.

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>>94844463
he had massive hype in the crossover, not so much in LoT.

>>94844363
how about this?

>>94848194
That would be the best Superman, yes.

>>94840922
>let the children drown, Clark
Truly drawing from the source material

>>94848375
>Why don't you put your pajamas on and fly around saving people, Clark? You're nine, get up your lazy ass and and do shit, you're old enough to handle your powers with the proper responsibility.

>>94848493
>tries to be a fag got and exaggerate for humor to justify his shifty movie
>it is exactly what happens on the current Supersons book, and /co/ loves it.

>>94848645

Because he's paired up with a hyper-competent Damian. Jon himself is basically a dumbass and has his dad teaching him how to use his powers.

>>94839808
That's not the plutonian

>>94848114
No Idea. The success of X2 should have made him think the franchise as a cash cow. At least, better than Superman was at that point. Maybe he just had a story that worked better for Superman.
I can imagine Cyclopes or even Wolverine going through some of the events from Superman Returns; though some were better for Superman (like everyone's reaction to him dying, returning, and the overall adaption of the Donner movies.)

>>94839838
fpbp

>>94839929
>literally the best live action Luthor we have had
>worst
you fucking faggots

>>94839838
Pretty much

>>94840258
>>94840293
>>94840471
>>94840589
>>94840677
>>94840818
/co/ is not love, now get gone you autistic children

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I respectfully decline to agree.
>>94849122

>>94844463
He seemed ok at first but his character arc and motivation (and both the Hawks by extent) were absolute shit and ruined the whole fucking show.

>>94849168
shit.
No, you're actually right, show was mostly shit but he was a great Luthor

>>94841390
>HIDING WAS NEVER ABOUT HIM.
The why wouldn't he still don't come out after Zod showed up? He knew mankind was at risk but still wouldn't come out because he said he didn't trust humans. What was he afraid of?

>>94849223
Because he didn't know why Zod wanted him. He'd potentially be risking losing his human life and mother by giving himself up. He needed a little time to make the decision.

>>94849169
I liked seeing him in the Per Degaton episode where he acts as a shady corrupting influence to the kid. We needed more "Immortal manipulator" Savage and less "Thirsty stalker" Savage/Hath-Set mishmash.

Though in his defense, the actress who played Hawkgirl was pretty hot.

>>94849362
>Thirsty stalker" Savage/Hath-Set mishmash.

That singlehandedly destroyed Arrowverse Savage and LoT S1

Why didn't they just think of making the priest his minion who keeps dying and coming back

>>94848163
I never said it was about the killing, cuntwaffle.

>>94842572
Basically >>94846935 only I'd argue that Spacey would've been the perfect Luthor in a Superman reboot that actually had Lex Luthor being a mad scientist and/or a corrupt corporate executive. He was actually pretty good in the role, just happened to be a massive wasted opportunity, just like that whole movie. It did help me get into Superman though.

>>94847786
Marrying someone with the same name is not that contrived unless you live in some Asian country where the same name is unlikely to come up.
On the flip side at least I personally don't know any siblings with the same name. Themed names or names that start with the same letter, maybe, but never a Michael and Michelle.

It also makes more standard motivation. Better "you got my husband killed now I hate you" than "you got my brother killed now I hate you" , let along the fact you can't have a sex scene with siblings

>>94839838
this

oldfags overate the old movies cuz nostalgia

>>94841619
DCEU Lois is fucking terrible. Doesn't even remotely act a thing like Lois should. And Adams is terrible in the role. She was ridiculously flat in BvS. Fuck Snyder.

>>94850417
>figuring out Clark is Superman
That's more Lois than actual comic Lois

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>>94850441
She managed to figure it out by googling too.

>>94850441
>>94850485
That is absolutely shit writing.

Why do people want to get rid of the Superman/Lois/Clark Kent angle? Shit's fun as fuck and one of the best parts about the Superman mythos. Not to mention you could still have Lois as a competent, badass reporter and not have her figure out Superman's identity right off the bat.

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>>94839808
Can't get worse than this shit

>>94850591
Honestly, the only ones I like are Batman and Waller.

>>94849017
>hypercompetent
>Damien
Jon is the only one with common sense, fag

>>94848493
>thinks I wouldn't like this version of Superboy
Lol, that would be 1000% better than what we got

>>94850441
>thinks doing the opposite of what a character is known for is true to said character
Now I know why you guys seem to reek of newbie-ism

>>94841700
The shade was worse. what a fucking waste

>>94850591
I'll bite. As someone who hasn't been a huge fan of the DCEU so far outside of Wonder Woman, the only truly bad ones have been Superman, Lex Luthor, Lois Lane, and the Joker.

In a lot of cases, casting has been spot on, like for Alfred or Amanda Waller, but the writing and/or direction has been atrocious.

Jury's still out on the Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman, though. I hope to god that Aquaman isn't just Loboquaman. Even if he is, I hope they tone that shit down for his solo movie.

>>94840015
Maybe starting out, but he became a true bro by the end of it. That's why he's referred to as SuperBro

>>94840750
The fact that he ditched Bruce after lying to him for years and preventing him from moving on makes him actual scum.

>>94842468
And people still give Burton's Alfred shit for letting Vicky Vale into the Batcave

>>94844782
>forgetting the scene where the crane operators turn to help him out
Its like you don't know the meaning of the word symbiote.

>>94850527
>Why do people want to get rid of the Superman/Lois/Clark Kent angle?

Because who fucking wants movies full of superfluous "oh will they or won't they" filler scenes taking up Lois' screen time when they can just be together and fuck already?

>>94844463
fuck you he is the best vandal savage

>>94851710
No one has ever given a single fuck about Savitar. I'd argue the show's version was a better concept executed horribly.

>>94850591
Wonder Woman is a very good version of its character. Much better than pretty much every comic with her in the past few years, except Azzarello's.
Batman, Alfred and Amanda Waller have good actors that can do well with proper writing and direction. They haven't got it yet though.
We don't know shit about Aquaman, Flash or Cyborg.
The rest do suck and even if they're not the absolute worse versions of the characters, they're pretty damn close.

>>94839838

>sulking supes
>best

no

>>94849362
>I liked seeing him in the Per Degaton episode where he acts as a shady corrupting influence to the kid.
Yeah, that was probably his best and only good moment in the whole show. That episode was pretty ok.

>>94840818

>SM3
>whiny teenage american idol host Venom
>better

>>94841018

EXTRAORDINARY

>>94849275
That doesn't make any sense. Zod says he wants him and it's obvious his intentions aren't good. His showing up would be a sense of self sacrifice and putting himself over the rest of mankind, who was gonna get wrecked if he didn't show up.
Yet he still doesn't come out because he doesn't trust mankind. How the fuck does that make any sense? What did he expect to happen if he didn't show up? Zod simply going away and him going back to his private life? Letting everybody get fucked up just so he could still do shitty oddjobs in whatever is left of the world after the kryptonians are done with it?

>>94841621

>batty boy

hahahahaahah

batty boy is slang for faggot in the uk

Remember that one time Optimus became a huge asshole and just started killing off humans?

>>94843140
Sounds like shitty source material then.

>>94848493
>I will mock you, by shooting my foot and giving a better character than we actualy got

>>94851589
Bceause its interesting, unlike what we got.

>>94850843
Kek saved

>>94853656
He's just a normal dude at that point, of course he's going to be shaken a little and needed a moment to gather himself when someone from outer space appeared and demanded him to be handed over. It's entirely human. In the end he chose to do it out of his free will. Like a hero.

>>94854499
>In the end he chose to do it out of his free will.
He needed the priest to tell him to stop being an eternal fuckup and do something for once.
Something that he could've used his parents to tell him at least once in his lifetime.

>>94854560
He seeked spiritual advise from a priest, so what. It's a very Superman thing to do.

>>94854499
It's pathetic how people keep trying to make excuses for this character always running away and being so insecure because he imagines his own damn problems.

Here me out, this is a SUPERHERO movie, it's about the 1% that face the danger in the face of destruction. On First Avengers the first thing that Steve did when someone threw a grenade in front of him was jump at it and try to protect others with his body. The first thing.

He is a hero.

>>94841643
Nope Rhino

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>>94854758
absolutely based scene.

>>94854758
And your still not getting it.
If Clark indeed did something spontaneous, heroic like that without thinking publicly then MANY more people could die then the ones he saved in that moment from humanity reacting to his existence.
Your asking for a naive negligent mother fucker who doesn't care about the bigger picture as long as he looks good now.
Fuck you.

>>94853920
Nailed it.

>>94839808
Pic is not even close idiot. Why don't you actually read a Superman comic. Only morons who don't read them think that's the worst version. It's by far the most accurate. Shame on your stupid face.

>>94853592
you are an idiot who doesn't even know what sulking means, apparently. Fuck off dope

>>94851710
make the energy orange and it would be a good ME2 Collector

>>94854705
>Spiritual advice
>He just asked whether he should face Zod or not
Did you even watch the movie?
And again, his doubt about coming up to face Zod was that he also didn't trust mankind. What was he afraid men would do? And under what possible scenario did he think that staying in hiding was a reasonable plan?

>>94855086
>MANY more people could die then the ones he saved in that moment from humanity reacting to his existence.

Let's recap the situation in MoS

>Zod says that if Superman doesn't show up, the's gonna start wrecking shit
>Superman still doesn't know if he should show up because...

Seriously, a guy is already threatening to kill everybody if he doesn't show up, how could more people die if he does show up? How does his lack of trust on mankind make any sense as the reason for him not to act in that context?

>Butthurt Snyderfags the Thread

You guys are pathetic.

>>94839838
I think you need to leave

>>94855971
Let's not even bring up the source material. He is just a terrible character with no motivation and has assface.

>>94840015
People are gonna disagree with me on this, but I agree. He was pushed as the "new, definitive" version and just didn't stick. I liked Morrison's run tho.

>>94856244
>how dare you have a different opinion than me

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>>94855086
I think that you dumbfuck need to learn a thing or two about about what genre you are talking about.

People HATE utilitarian heroes, on capeshit the true heroes are the ones that follow and say:
>My body moved on its own before I could think.
>You can be a hero!
>It's in the job description. Laying your life on the line to do cheesy stuff!
>Butting your nose in is one of the principle qualities of a hero.

Also, this is a MOVIE, the writters control what happens. You are actively saying that a movie with SUPERMAN, of all characters, should avoid spontaneous and heroic acts. Even more dumber from patethic snyderfags like you, when most of these fears end up not mattering much anyway on the movie, and turns out that the MC was avoid acting and doing the right thing for problens on his head that he is afraid to deal.

>>94839838
fpbp

>>94856629
People are not saying this, they are just calling you a faggot for your opinions.

>>94856817
>IP number doesnt increase

>>94839838

Agree.

>>94844782
w2c that jacket

>>94846780
Pretty much everyone from Raimis Spiderman

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>>94846780
Ellen Page as Kitty Pryde was good casting

Also, considering Ellen is a lesbian, casting her as someone called "Kitty Pryde" is pretty funny

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Back to formula

>>94858311
Worst?
I think you meant MOST EXTREME!

>>94859344
This

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easily

>>94851710
people actually prefer the comics version?

>>94861306
Nobody gives two shits about Savitar.

>>94858311
That's one complicated film projector.

>>94844329
But no?

He didn't grow up in Smallville with Superman, he barely did any science (except in Superman IV) and he wore a wig.

Pre-crisis Lex wasn't a comic relief character with bumbling henchmen and a moll.

>>94855052
its joke anon

>>94850869
He was retconned, basically, as the OP suggested he should have been. They never did bother to explain why he was such a cunt in Origins

>>94864307
>They never did bother to explain why he was such a cunt in Origins
Everybody was an asshole there because it's Johns writing who has a bipolar writing disorder that swings from pure 90s edginess to cheesy bronze age sentimentality.

>>94862607
Wow. This is pretty bad

>>94862607
goblin

looks like a damn ogre

>>94856793
>You are actively saying that a movie with SUPERMAN, of all characters, should avoid spontaneous and heroic acts
If it's set in a realistic environment that hasn't been made aware of the existence of aliens yet yes.
>snyderfags
No, I loved Mos, liked Bvs, liked Dawn but never cared enough to rewatch, indifferent to 300 & don't care to ever watch Sucker Punch.
>when most of these fears end up not mattering much anyway on the movie
I never said it was central to the plot, but it was a important part of cultivating a realistic world & making it feel authentic. Along with making clear this Clark is both flawed by way of indecisive-ness but even that comes from a genuine concern for peoples lives just on a bigger scale.
>and turns out that the MC was avoid acting and doing the right thing for problens on his head
There hasn't been a point in the last 200 years that their was not a war on somewhere, wars & genocides have been caused by smaller things then godly powerful aliens being revealed to exist, if you don't think it's a incredible fucking risk revealing that when Africans still commit genocide over tribal names/genetic differences your delusional.

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>Was a Brilliant but flawed engineer
>Now a snarky fuck up crackhead
RobertdowneyJr man.

Y'know.. most people that hate DCEU, hate it because they can't realise that even though WE, the audience, know something about a character, the other characters in the movie's world don't. That's the point of these origin movies. not to tell a story WE'RE familiar with; but a story about how we'd react if these beings existed in our world. How would we know
>Superman wasn't a terrorist
>Superman can tear through handcuffs
>The extent of Superman's powers (like maybe he decided to shoot African's one day?)
>Wonder Woman is a literal diety

You people that can't seem to fathom suspension of disbelief most likely want the 20 minute cartoon version, in which everyone just automatically sees these guys as heroes. It's your fault the upcoming movies are going to get more and more unrealistic and more cartoonish. Because you just HAD to compare it to Marlel.

>>94869348
No he's a terrible character even if superman didn't exist before hand

>>94869664
Can I have your reason's?

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>>94839808

i stopped to read wonder woman after new 52 gadot was the worst incarnation of a hero of all time and gadot lost a recent award for zendaya martha

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>>94839808

>>94869348
That's not the problem.
The problem is it tries to have it both ways. Yeah, in the real world we would naturally be suspicious of Superman. So stop trying to convince us to love this one because he's really a hero you guys. Let us be suspicious of him. Let us think he's not really a hero. Let us think he's a fuckup.

>>94868940
>muh warz
>muh genocides
You're like a broken ass record. It's sad.
You know this world also produces GOOD people and things too right?

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>>94841621
Is this.. The Chauvinist ?

>>94870244
Name on GOOD government.

>>94840964
Smallville and Birthright.

Snyder's Johnathan is basically what both of these versions wanted, but failed to be.

>>94862607
Pretty much anything on that show was bad.
You can argue about Ock, but that may be a broken clock being right once.

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>>94839808

>>94850591
Indeed
>>94850641
Pity Batman its a murderous psychopath that didn´t killed their worst enemies in 20 years and SS is a fucking disaster.

>>94851710
>Barry from the future
aaand dropped

>>94870574
anon said worse not better

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lol, why DCEU CGI gets worse with every movie?

>>94870574
You literally have it backwards.

>>94870515
Moving the goalposts to governments now?
The government in the DCEU doesn't notice when a ship crashes in the midwest. They're hilariously incompetent and there's no need to hide from them.

>>94871598
meanwhile American hovering is infiltrated by nazis and nobody notices until they're about to commit global genocide

>>94839808
man of steel has is charm (still is a mediocre movie) but is not something to base an entire cinematic universe.
the worst version must be that guy in superman returns.

>>94871713
>but is not something to base an entire cinematic universe.

It was never meant to be, that is the DCEU's problem

>>94839838

agreed.

don't let the nostalgiafags who think a young superhero that discovers he's the sole key to solving a global existential crisis should meet the challenge with a smile and a cheerful disposition.

>>94871846
Why?

>>94870230
The first movie was more from the human perspective. BvS was from Superman and Batman's. It's sort of like Planet of the Apes, where there's an obvious good guy but the movies make you see the point of view of both so things don't seem as black and white.

>>94872092
>why?

well, i dunno- maybe having to do something with the complexities involving a human population that would fear you and an alien one that wants to replace humans, you being the singular barrier to determine either possibility: the death of your own people or saving a population that will likely fear and try to destroy you if they knew the extent of your abilities yet having to resolve that their goodness shines through despite their weakness and barbarism.

those are world altering, god level decisions having to be made by one, sole individual, and i doubt as someone who questions whether his efforts are even worth the trouble as an intelligent being would pretend that it's not heavy burden to bare- at least in the beginning.

superman was a new superhero without even knowing the extent of his own powers while knowing that if he loses, billions would die along with him. that's a nice bedtime story, isn't it?

>>94841621
Somebody had to write that, someone had to draw that, someone had to edit and publish that. Wow.

>>94872298
You are forgeting the fact that every other version of the character executed this better.

>>94872445
>executed this better

executed what better? give dceu superman time to grow into who he becomes.

>>94841018
I kind of liked this guy. Can't compare because don't read X-Men comics, but this character was pretty good.

>>94847650
Returns Superman was the last goody two-shoes one. That movie had problems, but this portrayal of Superman wasn't one of them.

It was a chick flick; with that insight, it all makes sense. Align it next to Beaches and Steel Magnolias.

>>94872474
Every super hero movie do this in one.one movie. For fuck''s sake, how long are you going to execute this? It has been 2 movies? Josh had to fucking remove him running away AGAIN on JL.

>>94871499
because you get crankier the older you get.

>>94872655
>Every super hero movie do this in one

And that's why they look like retards every time a new villain appears and they suddenly can't do jackshit until the final reel.

>>94872968
I can't thin on any moment where this happened. Your argument on the other side is making the character unlikable whose conflict is basically "should I bother saving someone?"

>>94850701
>what the character is known for
Lois in the Silver Ages always tried to get evidence, that Clark Kent is Superman. He and sometimes Batman always had to find new ways to thwart that.
So she is pretty much remembered for the wrong thing.

>>94870108
Super late but Superman has no real personality or motivation that is clear to the audience. That anon says that we shouldn't base Superman from previous versions but he bases Superman on what Snyder wanted it to be but not how it s

>>94840589
Homecoming is fucking awful, mane. If it wasn't Spider-Man no one would like it.

>>94840818
100% accurate

Fucking Amazing Spider-Man movies were better than Homecoming desu

>>94848493
Hey that would've been fun.

>>94862330
Nope Rhino

>>94841165
>>94841013
Glenn Ford was perfect. He lasted as long as he needed to. Comparable to Cliff Robertson as Uncle Ben.

>>94842113
Not really because Apokolips has no determinable race.

>>94875909
they had to promote iron man heavily in the promos.

that should tell you the lack of faith they have peter carrying the movie alone.

>>94841619
Too bad she's 50.

>>94870418
/ourguy/

>>94844196
I've seen 2000 movies and that film is shit.

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>>94846780
I agree with you.

West was a pretty perfect 50s/60s silver age style Batman. Same goes for Burt Ward as Robin. That whole show had a great cast, like Riddler, Catwoman and Penguin, and even Romero as Joker was entertaining.

Reeve as Superman was also perfect.

Worst of the movies sure.

Worst version period? The comics themselves have had so many utter shit versions of Superman I don't even know where to start.

I mean fuck, there was post-apocalyptic old man Superman with a Santa beard in a t-shirt and jeans who murders Hitler than kills himself.

>>94876076
They fucked up because Spider-Man isn't the problem of why the movies didn't work. The problem is the filmmakers have no vision other than "let's make money." I wish they'd get Raimi back or at least hire a director with a personal sense of style. Raimi was a perfect choice, though. Glad we'll always have those movies.

>>94869348
>we, the audience

As opposed to we, the people of these United States?
God I hate pretentious fucks like you. They are always DCEU fags, too. I hate both the MCU and the DCEU for the record. But fuck you, anyway for liking this grimdark shit lacking any substance.

>>94871616
If you're talking about SJWs, sure.

>>94876445
even if tony actually had a bare minimum appearance in the actual film, his involvement still feels weird as a whole.

he's either a mentor or he's not. he can't be hands off one scene then hands on the next.

>>94876570
Yeah, I was thinking and mentioned in another thread that it would have worked if Marvel had bought the rights to the FF and put Richards in his place instead.

Also I want the black lines and bars off the spidersuit.