Ares>Ego>Vulture>X-24

>>94837012
>Ego above Vulture
Fuck that

>>94837012
I agree.

People can bitch about Ares CGI look at the end, but his human/ghostly form was pretty spooky. Ego worked and offered an emotional gut punch twist. Vulture was really underwhelming and a waste of Keaton. X-24 felt out of place in Logan.

>>94837012
personal ranking
vulture>ego>ares>x24

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>Make dark and edgy superhero film
>Build the film around realism and stripping out the fantastical elements
>Suddenly clone wolverine
>Suddenly magic serum
>Suddenly mad scientist explaining his evil plan to rid the world of mutants with corn syrup

Logan shit the bed as soon as X-24 shows up

I can get behind that

>>94837012
>>94837148
>Ares
>That bony, greasy head that looks like Flanders with wimp factor turned up by twenty and shop him onto an oiled herculean body
I can't ever take that shit seriously. Ever.

Covering that with a helmet doesn't help because he still has the same voice, and I still think that he's Ned Flanders.

>>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

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>>94837012
>Anything>Vulture

>>94837234
Yeah, it had a really strong first half but the second they went to the farm (which was a huge fucking cliche) things went downhill. I kind of liked the fight scene at the end, though.

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>>94837012
>movie Ares over anything
Shit cg, shit acting, shit fight, shit design, more of Snyder's misplaced christian imagery with him being essentially discount satan.

>>94837012
>Vulture not at the top

What are you, some kind of fucking fag.

>>94837355
They should of made the fight scene a sword fight or something.

>>94837333

Even going to the farm was retarded. They had an army of mercenaries hunting them. They were just putting that family in danger by going down there. Then the whole fucking family gets killed exactly as anyone could've predicted.

R-rated claw fights were fun, but the movie itself is a complete mess.

>Ares
No, they fucked that up hard.

>X24
Is he even a character? Does that count?

>Ego
Well Kurt Russel is great, but that's that Ego had going for him

>Vulture
Keaton. Legit great character. As a bonus, didn't die.

Vulture > Ego > Ares > X-24

Ares would be higher if it weren't for
>looking like a tweedy english git in ancient times
>being a cgi monster fight in the end
>keeping the stache while being a cgi monster fight

>>94837012
I was wondering why I didn't know why I hadn't seen Ares. Never saw Wonder Woman. Still don't feel like seeing it.

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>>94837012
>Ares at the top
He's just a glorified arms dealer who shows up for a lame CGI fight scene.

>>94837300
Somebody needs to draw this.

>>94837379
this. i remember reading a review that called the fight scene a "video game boss fight" and that's probably my favorite description of it. two characters who are supposed to be warriors and they mostly just threw special effects at each other

>>94837379
>should of
Enjoy your summer vacation while it lasts

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>>94837081
>>94837302
>>94837374
>>94837387

Why the hell does /co/ have such a raging boner for the freaking Vulture of all villains in capefilms? This is literally the only place I've seen where people won't stop gushing so autistically about him all the time.

>>94837441
Huh?

>>94837455
It's not a hateboner, just a meme about how he's a gud boi who dindu nuffin.

>>94837455
These fucking mouseketeers treat every new MCU villain like the greatest villain ever. It's like clockwork. People were talking about Ego being the best and now that shit;s completely disappeared after Homecoming.

>>94837455
because he has an actual relatable motivation instead of "I'M GOING TO USE MY POWER TO TAKE OVER DA WOOOOORLD"

>>94837012
Contrarian.

>>94837455
regardless of how good or bad vulture was, the other three mentioned were all shitty and disappointing which is probably why people like vulture the most

>>94837455
Best part of an otherwise weak movie. Most cape-movie villains have been uncharismatic lumps, with only a small few being memorable in any way.

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>>94837300
>>>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>>94837400
>implying being a glorified arms dealer isn't perfect for the God of War
Seriously anon, are you just bitching for the sake of bitching? Cause that's what it sounds like.

>>94837333
Having fight scenes actually be appropriately brutal for a Wolverine fight was great. Beyond that everything about the 2nd half of the movie was a fucking mess.

The R-rated fights were great but not great enough to make up for everything else. I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.

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>>94837455
Because Vulture was a tragic villain of sorts. He started with just wanting to give some good life to his family and then his greed made him go more and more insane and when he stopped being under the radar he snapped and went full madman.

Pic kinda related, I saved it from other thread but I personally think Ego is a really good villain in another area entirely. And Zemo is still the best villain of the MCU.

>>94837509
>regardless of how good or bad vulture was, the other three mentioned were all shitty and disappointing which is probably why people like vulture the most
That's a big part of it. But it's not even just those movies, it's capeshit in general.

Villains are bad. Marvel has had more villains, and thus more terrible ones, but even DC only has Zod-and-friends in their current run.

>>94837494
Scrapping alien tech in New York to become rich is relatable? Does that happen often anywhere?

And there's nothing unrelatable about wanting to take over the world if you have the power to.

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You're fake news.
Green Goblin > Joker > Doc Ock > X-24

>>94837557
I would argue Vulture was never mad, just greedy and progressively more brazen as the story went on. I genuinely want to see him in the sequels.

>>94837553
>I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.
I'm a horrible sucker for Westerns, and western genre mashups. I know that's a big part of why I like it, but given how unpopular westerns are generally that can't be the reason for other folks.

Ares was pretty lame, Dr. Poison was more interesting as a side villain

>>94837553
>I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.
Maybe it's you who is the problem and not everybody else.

>>94837557
Do you honestly believe in that bullshit chart? If a villain is the better option than the hero then that's just awful writing. A villain is meant to be a character that you despise and want to lose.

>>94837577
>scrapping alien tech
>motivation

That's the means, not the motivation.

>>94837557
That chart is stupid. It's all about the portrayal. The Joker in TDK is just evil, and still leagues better than anything in the MCU.

>>94837553
>I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.
It actually has a mature-feeling theme (not just violence and deadpool-tier-"""comedy"""), while managing to be truer to the character.

The characters' screen history elevates the film as well, even if that history is a horrible mess in itself.

>>94837557
I'm gonna save this image and use it to shitpost.

>>94837644
I said in the post that the pic was just kinda related. I don't believe it as much as I just found it a funny chart to fill with other stuff (I didn't did the villain pics there neither).

>A villain is meant to be a character that you despise and want to lose.
Not always, a villain is just an antagonistic force for the hero. There is a lot of stuff you can do with a villain and make him both earn your audience's sympathy and them wanting to see him lose, especially if you go with a well-intentioned extremist villain.

>>94837584
>green goblin meme
get your fat ass back to youtube, movieblob, we don't want you here

>>94837606
>this shit again
Stop waifuing Dr. Poison.

Of all the Wonder Rogues to drool over, why her? For fucks sake.

>>94837012
What the fuck was good about Ares? He was as undeveloped and cliche as they come. His only motivation to be a villain was bascially, "I am a villain".

>>94837606
>She went evil because she got cucked

>>94837387
The implications of Ego were incredibly fascinating. It's pretty amazing to me how GOTG of all things turned out to be so inspired by Greek mythology.

vulture>>>>>>>>>every other cinematic super villain

Just because he's the only villain in any recent superhero movie that's unique, relatable, and most importantly- still alive. Which isn't to say he was INCREDIBLE, just that he's not garbage.

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>>94837756
...because she was the other villain in the movie?

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>>94837756
>Of all the Wonder Rogues to drool over, why her?
She makes my dick tingle with that mask.

>>94837797
>waifuing a character because she exists
Anon, I will fucking slap you.

>>94837782
>Just because he's the only villain in any recent superhero movie that's unique, relatable, and most importantly- still alive.
>who is Zemo

Street-level villains are always more interesting than the guys who can end your planet with the wave of a hand.

People liked Vulture because in some ways his logic was actually pretty sound in the beginning, since he was a hard worker who just wanted to provide a good life for his family, and had that pulled out from under him so took matters into his own hands which went too far. Instead of just providing for his family, he became obsessed with it and took it too far.

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>>94837829
People bring her up because she was the only other super villain in the movie, you mongoloid, and it's either her or Ares. And stating the obvious >>94837606 isn't waifuing, so stop your autistic rampage.

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>>94837876
>>94837797
>tfw you are so lame people forget you were the main villain befor egetting hijacked by Ares

JUST

>>94837644
Hollywood writer here folks

>>94837012
> I need to autistically rank things
>>>/v/

>>94837644
Have you ever read a fiction story in your entire life? That's like, kids book stuff. Or early late 19th, early 20th century fantasy.

>>94837644
>A villain is meant to be a character that you hate to love

Fixed for (You)

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>>94837911
This, honestly.
His entire character can literally be summed up in "I want to wage war because I like to."
I don't mind stereotypical fattened up warmongers, but at least give them a bit of character! Pic very much related.
And before anyone says it: I appreciate that that they didn't want to make a comedy, but when the character who only exists to do one minute bits between levels in a video game has a more developed character than the main antagonist of a feature length film then something has gone very wrong.

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>>94837012
Nah, son.

It would go like this.

Vulture > Ego > Ares > X-24.

>>94837691
Because he had tons of charisma power thanks to Ledger, and as a villain, actually manages to make the hero lose even if he wins.

Meanwhile, Leto Joker is a complete blasphemy and the opposite of Ledger, Nicholson and hell, even the Lego one.

>>94837180
Third post best post

>>94837382

You seem to not remember the fact that Logan even says as much before and as it happens, but Charles wants to be comfy.

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>there are people who honestly believe vulture was in the right
Fucking brainlets I swear

>>94837333

>I kind of liked the fight scene at the end

I thought it was weird that none of the other kids really put up nearly as much a fight as Laura. Like they were all put through the same training but while Laura is laying into everything and everyone around her the rest of the kids just waddle around.

Like I'm not expecting them to triumph but at least make it difficult. They only killed like 2 guys before Pierce.

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>>94837441

>>94837400
>He's just a glorified arms dealer
That's pretty much what Ares is supposed to be.

>>94838493
>I don't mind stereotypical fattened up warmongers, but at least give them a bit of character!
But that's the whole point of the character. Being simplistic so he works as a red herring for Diana's innocent view of things.

>shitty giant CGI monster
>over anything

>>94837180
This.

>>94839844
>>there are people who honestly believe vulture was in the right
>Fucking brainlets I swear
It's just that there are entire groups of Americans who genuinely believe everyone should have unlicensed, untraceable deadly weapons with them at all times. If that is what they believe, then Vulture is just doing what those people wanted.

Ares > * because I like pre-armor Ares and I didn't see any of the other films.

>Ares above anything

>>94837012
>Ares
>above anyone

Sheer delusion.

Vulture > Ego > X-24 > Ares

>>94837012
i thought ego was a planet with a face

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>>94842477
He is

>>94841449
What exactly would be lost in that, if he had just a tiny bit of a character to him?
You can be a warmonger that loves war without that being your only defining characteristic.

>>94837180
Yeah I agree with this

>>94842722
>What exactly would be lost in that, if he had just a tiny bit of a character to him?
What I said, that he was portrayed that way to fit with Diana's simplistic view of the world, and it worked as a red herring so the final reveal had more of an impact on Diana's character.

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>>94837300
>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>>94842764
Doing the bare minimum with a character for the story to be functional is not doing a good job.
I mean granted, it fit into the story better than any given character in the Force Awakens, and apparently that's the best movie ever, so what the hell do I know.


Point is, people don't remember the characters from Red Alert because they told you what to do.
It's because they had the Romanov's legacy to consider on one hand, and a wooden nickel to not give on the other.
Could have just given you instructions and left it at that, but even a video game understood that characters exist to be characters, not just throwaway plot devices, even if that's their reason for being in the story.

>>94837012
Ares just looks cool, negro had like 15 minutes mostly used for the cgi orgy. And how he expected Diana to join him was stupid. That was a nice moustache though.
x-24? better use the cyborg guy.
Ego's a giant dick who is just following his nature.Not a fan of that sort of villain but you get to know him and Kurt russel is given enough screentime to deliver
Vulture was great overral, even made Peter realized where he belongs
So:
Vulture>Ego>Ares>X-24

>>94842926
Again, you're missing the point. The point is that we see all the movie through Diana's POV, at least on an emotional level. We get introduced into the nuances of the war along with her, as well as into the nuances of the rest of the characters. She's so focused about Ludendorff being Ares, and therefore being the only cause of war so that's what we also get to see, until we realize, along with her, than there's more to it than that.

I can't put my finger on why, but I really liked Ego as a villain. He just worked. I feel like I have the perfect balance of hating him as a villain and wanting him to get his, and also really enjoying him as a character.

>>94837557
Wouldn't Sandman count as a reluctant villain?Although I'm not sure he was a great villain.

>>94837523
>>94841387
He does nothing of note during the whole movie and gets killed ten minutes after he shows up. He's totally lame.

>>94843044
>There's more to it than that
Because the British guy was the bad guy all along. Got it.

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>>94837300
>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>>94843165
Sandman is more leaning towards trying to survive, because he has no qualms about stealing from people.
But then he went to shit tier when he changed his motivation from saving his daughter to killing peter.

The only real reluctant villain I can think of is Gamora's sister.

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>>94837300
that's why it worked

>>94843797
Well, yeah, people are not necessarily what they seem. Steve Trevor's friends were criminals yet noble and this guy was supposed to be noble but was the big bad guy. It's not supposed to be anything mindblowing either, but it's a coming of age story for Diana, and that's what she learns in the movie.

>>94837400
>He's just a glorified arms dealer who shows up for a lame CGI fight scene.
That's Vulture

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>>94837300
>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!
nice dubs too

>>94837012
Ego and Vulture are about tied for me. Ego was probably the best 'slow burn' villain we've had since Obadiah Stane in terms of starting out as an ally and sliding until a gut-punch villain reveal. In the Vulture's case, I liked how his character worked in terms of his motivations and the fact that he remained a sort of "street villain". Plus the fact that he was literally scavenging remains was a nice touch.

Ares had potential and the twist worked, but that fight at the end just....didn't really do anything. It was a loud, bland mess.

X-24 was stupid. Liev Schreiber's Sabretooth would've been a better enemy to bring in; fighting between him and Logan would've had more emotional weight and we could've gotten some actual dialogue out of it rather than Hugh Jackman screaming for two.

>>94837012
Opinions incoming
Vulture>Ego>Ares>X-24

Vulture was pleasantly surprising in being a complex (by comparison) and actually threatening villain.

Ego was the sort of villain I love in that he's an unrepentant asshole with a lot of power. It's a guilty pleasure.

Ares was fine, exactly what I would have expected from him except that they wasted the twist by making it obvious that the german guy wasnt Ares. Also he looked like a wimp in human form which threw me off.

24 was a goddamn abomination. What a fucking let down, and easily the lowest point in a fucking awesome movie. Literally should have been anything else. Ramped up Sabertooth, Daken, I would have accepted fucking Wildchild. Anything but that.

>>94837691
That's not much of an achievement.

I didn't like Ego. His disconnect from humanity was presented in a way that made him seem like a petulant child rather than a god with poor grasp on human morality.

>>94844301
>I didn't like Ego. His disconnect from humanity was presented in a way that made him seem like a petulant child rather than a god with poor grasp on human morality.
He doesn't act like a child, he acts like an asshole. Most assholes are adults.

>>94837557
>motivated by pure greed
>kills his man willy nilly 'lol oops'
>better motivation than the hero

>>94844301
That's because he wasn't even remotely amoral. He did have a grasp on mortal morality and found it as ultimately disappointing as everything else. He toyed with it for a while, and it was just a burden, so he tossed it. One thing I really liked is that he really did seem to like Quill's mom, just not nearly as much as he liked himself. So in his own mind, what he did was the obvious move.

Ego was never meant to be aloof, just jaded and superior, but in a nice way because people don't matter. Only Quill made him upset, because Quill was supposed to be the one he could actually relate to and instead he was so stuck on that basic human shit.

>>94837180
That's about right

>>94837081
vulture > ego > ares > x-24

>>94837455
He
was
good.

One of the best parts of his film, one of the best Marvel villains, and the reveal was wonderfully tense.

He was relatable, honorable, and competent. His only weak moment was when he accidentally killed the first Shocker and then shrugged it off with a quip, but quip saturation is a general Marvel problem, not a Vulture problem.

>>94837374
He is most intimidating in the car scene, rather than as Vulture.

>>94837012
I don't see how Ares is a better dad than Ego and Vulture, I also don't see how X-24 is a dad.

>>94844392
That's the clue I take on him actually growing more and more insane with the years because of the greed. 8 years have passed since he started doing his own business and really that house for his family is more than what they need, he may have started with legit motivations but his greed made him go over the top with it. He even almost gets himself killed at the end just because he didn't want to let go of those Stark shits.

>>94837234
the whole film is a character film about wolverine growing older. X-24 isn't supposed to be a memorable villain, it is supposed to be a younger, better version of wolverine.

>>94843075
Ego is a very accurate portrayal of a narcissist.

Outwardly charming but devoid of empathy and totally selfish.

IMHO the spreading across the universe stuff was unnecessary as Ego's nature was more disturbing on a personal level.

>>94844429
This is why I like Ego too.
You can even see a sad look on his face when the last song that is on the walkman, both one of Meredith's favorites and the one that explains his motives the best. He loved her but that love was not enough to make him change his ways. His plan was so important he couldn't just wait one human lifespan more to complete it.

>>94839844

Spiderman Homecoming did a good job of making his motivations relatable, it was only trying to murder a 15 year old kid to keep his illegal and dangerous gunrunning business, actual murder, stealing vital technology from those who job it is to stop the world from being destroyed or enslaved, and blowing all his safety net money on an extremely nice house (and probably some other stuff I forgot) that made him a villain.

>>94837180
Absolutely correct, with no amendment. This is the official ranking.

>>94837355
>misplaced christian imagery with him being essentially discount satan.
I actually really wish Hollywood would stop doing this. Pasting Christian myth dynamics onto Greek myths generally makes the whole story dumber.

>>94844723
>That's the clue I take on him actually growing more and more insane with the years because of the greed.
He could just be really competent, and as such can't help be expand his business because it is just what he does. Really, what's different is that Stark paid his taxes while Vulture didn't.

>>94837148
>Vulture was really underwhelming and a waste of Keaton.
Now that's what I call contrarian

Ares as a character is better than the other 3 because his motivations made fucking sense and having the god of war being the guy negotiating the treaty of Versailles is one of those things that people like /co/ hate and the people who read history books love. His reveal and the vision of a world without humans are cool, the final fight is pretty shit though. Vulture is fine too, smaller scale, he seems to be more of an Iron Man villain in the movie though. Ego is absolute trash and Russell is the only saving grace of both the character and the entire piece of shit of the movie. X-24 is not a real character and his scenes ruin Logan

Movies:
Logan > WW > Homecoming > GotG2

Villains
Ares > Vulture > Ego > X-24

>>94837767
His motivation was representing war as a force of nature

>>94837876
>a cucked womyn is more interesting than an ancient god of war and bloodshed
And they say /co/mblr isn't real

>>94840545
>kids with superpowers killed 2 soldiers
That was already enough for muh fellow Russian militarycucks to get mad

>>94846063
>an ancient god of war and bloodshed
*a completely botched attempt at showing an ancient god of war and bloodshed, and yes.

>>94845969
All their motivation "made sense" except for X24 who had no motivations at all. What does set Ares apart is how little sense his actions in the third act made. The other two villains that actually had brains were trying to carry out their plans to the best of their abilities, and simply got outmatched by the heroes, but Ares could have straight up not appeared to Diana and he would have lived, his plan working much better. He didn't need her right then, and she was already in the process of turning against humanity. He didn't have the sense to know when to shut up, because every time he edged Diana on, she realized what she was doing was wrong, and turned against Ares again. This would be forgiveable as a character flaw, except the rest of the movie and his own exposition revealed him as a master manipulator, but when faced with Diana, he goes full retard.
>Ares on top
Worst list in the entire thread.

X-24 was a walking metaphor, not a character. Pierce was the actual villain of that movie, and Boyd Holbrook did a perfectly fine job at his Jack Palance in Shane impression.

The villains aren't really important in Logan anyway.

I liked the final fight in WW
It was cliched as hell, sure
But not many big Hollywood movies today do this type of cheesy fight where it's just one super-powered character facing off against the other
Like, Logan had a mass fight, GOTG 2 had a struggle for time and Homecoming had a chase, WW was the only one where they just straight up fight each other

>>94846250

>But not many big Hollywood movies today do this type of cheesy fight where it's just one super-powered character facing off against the other

I'd be fine with taht if it didn't look like shit. Snyder's smoke/fire aesthetic is going to infect every one of these fucking movies, there's no way any of these films is going to have a worthwhile third act with that style.

>>94837012
I agree that x-24 was pretty low, but why would you put Ares anywhere near the top? He barely got any development.

>>94837012
Why are we even talking about 24 and not Pierce? I'm pretty sure it's obvious Pierce was the true big bad and they just needed 24 as a plot device

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>>94837300
>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>>94846173
Not that anon, but he thought it'd be sensible to make sure the only warrior theoretically being able to kill him was on his side
He miscalculated

>>94837012
>Ares above anything
???

>>94837012
>dc
>winning
>ever
kek

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>>94837557
>Elder God Tier

Bitch, a top-tier villain just needs to be an entertaining fiend with a powerful presence in the narrative. Not all scoundrels need a sob story motive.

>>94837644
It's called anti-hero.

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>>94846486
lol

>>94837012

Ares was a shit character since the whole point of the story thus far is that Diana is naive and it's silly to think one God is responsible for WW1 and it's not every single politician and soldier that's responsible.... but then nah just kidding it really is Ares and if you kill him it really does stop the fighting p.s. Ares was pretending to be human and trying to cause peace because...... ? and it further fucks up Diana losing and gaining faith in humanity at complete random in this movie and in the universe

also just the idea that he already killed all the other greek Gods and he's the only one left that Diana has now killed (by Diana who is the God Killer herself except she needs to use his own magical lighting to kill him which he uses even though that's Zeus' meme) is lame because it leaves nothing from Diana's mythology left to play with

>>94847251
>but then nah just kidding it really is Ares and if you kill him it really does stop the fighting
The fighting was already on its way of stopping long before the Ares fight. We're only seeing the action on that Belgian town that was Ludendorffs last attempt at keeping the war going. And in the reveal itself, Ares says that he's only an influence on humans, and that's what makes Diana decide to stay as a positive influence, to counter-balance.

>Ares was pretending to be human and trying to cause peace because...... ?
If you know anything about the armistice, you'll see that it was directly related to WWII happening. Ares interest is to keep war going for as long as he can, and he does it by manipulating people on both sides.
>it further fucks up Diana losing and gaining faith in humanity at complete random in this movie and in the universe
It's not random at all, it's even spelled out for you at the climax of the movie. She gains help in humanity because she has seen humans do good under the right influence: Steve Trevor and his friends, who were criminals but ended up acting more noble than anyone else. That's what she decided to stay and continue to be a positive influence on mankind.

>also just the idea that he already killed all the other greek Gods and he's the only one left that Diana has now killed (by Diana who is the God Killer herself except she needs to use his own magical lighting to kill him which he uses even though that's Zeus' meme) is lame because it leaves nothing from Diana's mythology left to play with
They're gods so we don't really know if they're all actually dead in the same way that humans do. It's very easy to bring any of them back, including Ares.

>>94837012
>X24 a personification of Logan's bestial nature of his younger days that he gave into and let take over so many times that is the final enemy he must face to have a good guilt free death
>Not at least above dude Kurt Russell
It's not about the villian in this case but what he represented to the hero. He was just like Logan years ago when he was just an attack dog on a leash for Stryker and he has to face that past self. Logan is pure kino you plebs.

>>94837509
The fuck was wrong with ares?
Is this another ma final fight ruined the behind the scenes angle on him post?

>>94846102

Well they weren't really soldiers were they, more like mercs

>>94846250

GotG2 did have a straight-up fight in the middle, when Peter figures out his power and they fly around smacking one another about

>>94846303

Pierce wasn't all that more complex than X-24, tbqh

Just sorta "Lol fuck muties" without any of the basic backstory or motivations of prior "fuck mutie" X-Men villains

>>94848720
>GotG2 did have a straight-up fight in the middle, when Peter figures out his power and they fly around smacking one another about
It is actually the least interesting part of the film for me. Guess it is because I take CGI for granted and is just lest impressed by magic battles. They literally can't hurt each other, so I was more focused on the more mortal cast members and their separate plight..

>>94848791

Fair point

There were a few points that stood out as poorly done, too. Like when Peter first grabs daddy and starts hammering him with a rock arm, you can tell the hits are out of sync with the flinches, and he doesn't look like he's hitting nearly hard enough to cause much damage.

>>94837012
Hela >>>> all

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>>94837300
>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>>94847024
my nigga

>>94837012
X24 isn't even a villain. He's an opportunity for Logan to finally beat the animal inside.

Which is why he's terrible. He's only a shallow thing for Logan.

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>>94837012
Vulture had best design and Keaton had good moments in that role, wish they made better fights in that movie.

Ego was cool, but why did they made him a villain for no reason? Why did he kill his non-celestial sons? Just let them go. And why would his plan work, if he need two celestial and Peter is using his power source for his own powers?

Ares was bad. He doesn't look like greek god. Look at his shitty mustache.

x-23 is trash.

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>>94837300
>>>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>>94847144
>

ares was shit and final battle was basically WW vs magneto

Ares was garbage. He was a completely one-dimensional character with a shit design, a hammy bad actor and a worthless set-piece.

>>94851111
Ares would have made sense if his godform looked completely different, since manipulating the warring sides would be up his alley

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>>94837300
>>94851326
>I'm going spam this thread with my cringeworthy comment!

Ares was pretty good, his views on why humans are runing the world and violent are solid based on facts but with some emotional factor as well.

He had a pretty realistic prejudice

>>94837012
>ego
>better than any other villain
>"hey dude I killed your mother please don't betray me ok? thanx :D"

Vulture is the most overrated villain of all times he's garbage

>Iron man saved the world a dozen of times and everyone know that but hey he don't care about us okay?

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>>94837300
>>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!
>>94837455
It's because Vulture was the only part of a very disappointing movie that mouseketeers can latch on to.

>>94844730
Yeah, a little too on the nose in my opinion.

>>94837355
At least they didn't pick Hades again. Probably because someone made some typos.

>>94845969
I really don't think they made a good decision to cast Professor Lupin as this immortal fallen god, though.

>>94837300
>all this samefagging
take a screenshot and post it on r/4chan

>>94844730
>the whole film is a character film about wolverine growing older.
it amazes me that I hated the film and yet I understand I think more than the tards like you who say shit like this (and likely loved it).

This wasn't about growing old. This was about everything being fruitless. About no matter how hard he tried everything was bound to be fucked up.

Age was spoken about simply because they are both old. Age didn't kill anyone in the film and, besides making them a bit weaker or in charles' case less in control, really didn't affect them in any significant way.

This movie was a character film, yes, but about coming to grips with his inner demons and failings. It was about a man saying he was never a hero because a hero's actions wouldn't have led to westchester. because a hero wouldn't work for a man who would eventually kill everyone he ever wanted to help.

Age was visual shorthand, and well used since they are both old enough to do so, for the long shitty road they were on. That was all age mattered.

X-24 represents the villain that Logan could have been had be been a savage. And it shows him that, while he may not see himself as a hero, seeing himself as a villain is more flawed. And it showed him he WAS the hero, if only to and for x-23 and her "friends".

And still it was terrible, silly and especially pisses me off that they thought he or Logan being a faggot was any more true to the character than him NEVER having worn yellow in 17 years.

>>94847144
no it isn't. It's called a sympathetic villain. Characters like Deadpool and Punisher and Red Hood are anti-heroes. Heroes who aren't heroic.

Despite the fact that the term should, in fact, simply mean villain.

>>94855162
I got the same thing out of the movie but loved it. What didn't you like about it?

>>94855162
>a hero's actions wouldn't have led to westchester
A hero's actions have nothing to do with weschester. They're not related at all.
>they thought he or Logan being a faggot
What?

>X-24 EGO ARES VULTURE

>X-24's ego are vulture

>X-24 ego are vultures

What are you trying to say OP?

>>94852366
Honestly that was just something I thought up and left yesterday. I'm surprised it got so many (you)s

>>94837012
Who the fuck is Ego?

>>94856068
>a hero's actions wouldn't have led to westchester
if you didn't see that logan felt this way, it's clear why you would think something as stupid as seeing this as being about aging. In a movie where the MC wants to blow his brains out on a fucking boat. Aging and experiencing general physical humanity (to go along with the typical emotional pain wolverine is always hit with) was the point of The Wolverine. Logan was about making peace of the garbage he'd lived through before dying.

Though I did fuck up my final thought as my mind turned to wiping my ass and getting off the toilet rather than my over-long reply.

>>94856052
specifically. It wasn't "for the fans" so much as it was for people who grew up with Hugh Jackman bastardizing the character every time he played him past x-2 (though DoFP wasn't so bad of a go at the character).

it was billed as super serious, way too serious for him to wear a uniform, but he can fight an autistic version of himself. And then the LEL the Korn killed the Muties. And stupid contrivances like the perfectly edited video of behind the scenes footage of completely inhuman, and very illegal operations. As if she could get any of that filmed, edited and somehow put onto one tape within a camera.

They made Shane, put Shane in their movie, and acted as if it was some sort of fucking glorious homage instead of a perplexingly dumb 10 minutes.

the farm didn't need to happen other than to make the movie longer, which is seemingly a barometer of quality these days (runtime I mean). The same thing could have been achieved in a nice restaurant with just the three of them having a family moment. The trip to the water pump introduced the corn ass pull later but even that could have been done better anyway (or not done at all and just left ambiguous).

>>94857148
>if you didn't see that logan felt this way, it's clear why you would think something as stupid as seeing this as being about aging.
Stop assuming I'm someone else, idiot

>>94857148
The Westchester incident was Xavier killing a lot of people at Westchester with a seizure. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

>>94857199
I do know this. It's pretty clear Logan feels everything he and charles had worked for was lost that day. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

>>94837644
Be honest, how old are you?