raven or starfire?

Raven in that pic would look like someone I would persuade to hang out everyday, Starfire is good as a fuckbuddy

>>94828712
Are we talking about generic goth girl Raven, Leotard Fapbait Raven or "Asshole, yet Cozy" Raven?

>>94828747
I need Leotard Fapbait Raven.

My parents would understand.

>>94828712
I'd take... Jinx____

Rose Wilson because I'm a fucking idiot, probably
>>94828747
Raven as written by Marv Wolfman

Are we talking TT-cartoon age Star/Raven or the new comic series where Starfire is older?

>>94828780
>Raven as written by Marv Wolfman
OH FUCK OFF no bet man I'm not touching that fucked up senile pedophile's idea of a woman!

>>94828782
Starfire is always the same age as Dick
Raven can get aged down indefinitely

>>94828712
Raven gives me so many hards on

>>94828792
Too late she's already fucked with your mind, you're irreversibly head over heels in love with her

>>94828802
You and every other lonely sack of antisocial shit

>>94828811
Not as long as creepy teenagers keep shipping her with others, I'm not.

Jealousy is my main sin.

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>>94828712
I would take loli Raven. Now before you go judging me on my taste /co/. You gotta hear my reason why I pick loli Raven.

Its so I can groom her to be the perfect wife.

>>94828830
She's an empath, anon
Your emotions are no longer your own
Marv sees nothing wrong with this scenario and neither should you, submit to your new waifu

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>>94828712
any of them would do really.

>>94828712
I'd want to show off Starfire to my parents to make them proud of me, I'd rather be with Raven though

>>94828961
I WANT TO GET OFF MR. WOLFMAN'S RIDE

WHERE ARE THE BRAKES ON THIS RAPE TRAIN

>>94828712
Starfire. She's less likely to summon a demonic hoard in an uncontrolled emotional outburst.

>>94828712
Starfire, because my parents are basically like 2 ravens (minus being attractive)

>>94828712
Starfire to meet the parents. Girls like Raven are typically off putting and rude to older people. If my dad saw me with a Starfire looking girl he would Son I am proud me.

>>94829117
What's it like having writing desks for parents? How does an end table even post here, anyway?

>>94828712
Starfire, she's naive and bubbly enough that my parents wouldn't think she's being paid to be here

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>>94829064
Hahaha isn't this fun here's a thirty something college professor who's going to be dating your teenaged friend, say hello! Ignore the fact that he looks just like me please, isn't this great?

>>94829213
Why are you like this? Who hurt you?

Why would anyone even do such a thing?

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>>94829184

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>>94829294
Oh relax this isn't some nightmare realm where people do things just to hurt you, no this is just reality. Btw have you met Terra yet? She's cute and sweet and fun and wants to be on the team! Check out her cool powers!
If you weren't paying attention Raven got bored of you and dumped you but forgot to undo her mindrape, leaving you pining for her. What a pathetic loser, right guys? Get your act together bro, it's just a girl.

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>>94828839
Thats still kinda messed up.

>>94829637
Yeah that guy's a real weirdo

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>>94828712
Raven, I'm in the DC universe so I'll just end up as a statistic of people killed in some huge ass fight between supers. Might as well date the best girl before that happens.

>>94828839
Someone already tried this and it didn't work out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Sidney

>>94828734
fpbp

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>>94829384

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>No option for me to hit those showers

You made a grave mistake OP. I will remember this.

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>>94828712

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>>94829762
>no option to date best Titan
OP has truly let us all down.

>>94828712
My girlfriend is pretty much a very blonde very pale Starfire, my mom hates her guts

>>94829735
The guy in Japan did this as well and it worked out.

>>94828747
Leotard Fapbait Raven>any other raven

>>94828839
That's some fucked up shit bro

>>94828712
Yes

>>94828712
>Which one would you take home to meet your parents?
Raven would surprise them less. I like them both relatively equally though for entirely different reasons.

>>94830398
but why?

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>>94831797
The mom is probably jealous she isn't as pretty.

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>>94828747
Amazon Raven.

>>94829384
You're just describing Beast Boy now, aren't you?

>>94829735
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Day

> Day decided to give up on Lucretia, who he did not think could satisfy him intellectually. Sabrina he felt was still a possibility, but her character had to be further strengthened. After dropping hot wax on her arms and hearing her scream, though, he gave up in despair.

NIGGA WAT?! Pain endurance training? Was he training a wife or a fucking assassin? (also, >satisfy him intellectually. She's supposed to bear your kids, not debate physics with you, just be happy if she's not literally retarded!)

Hell, technically the experiment worked out for the other participant, Bicknell, he got to have a waifu and avoid the blame, Day was just too much of a sperg to have accepted anything less than the silent marble perfection of Pigmalion.

>>94828712
Starfire. She's obedient, cute, sexy and funny. Also I have a thing for orange girls.

>>94831954
No that's actually Wally West, the Kid Flash
He gets a happy ending with Linda Park eventually (until flashpoint RIP)

>>94832046
Yeah Day was a nutcase, reading that Wikipedia article

>>94831797
>she's so immature
>she should really dress more modestly
>I don't think she respects me very much
>why is she so loud?
>I don't think she'd make a good mother, anon

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>>94828712
Starfire.

Then I'd introduce her to my friends and have her pull a train.

>>94829735
>The girls became ill, and quarrelled. Day decided to give up on Lucretia, who he did not think could satisfy him intellectually. Sabrina he felt was still a possibility, but her character had to be further strengthened. After dropping hot wax on her arms and hearing her scream, though, he gave up in despair.

fucking hell, this is both horrifying and hilarious, like some kind of medieval redpill comedy

>>94831883
Those legs look like they'd be soft to the touch.

>>94828712
which one has the cutest feet?

>>94832046
Thing is you have to be an autist mixed with a certain disregard for women to attempt wife husbandry.

Totally a thing half of 4chan would do.

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>>94829384
>cure a guy of his suicidal depression
>people still get mad at you
And I wouldn't call it pining as so much being in a constant state of scarousal. The knowledge that the cute girl is actually a horrible abomination that is a gateway to Oblivion and that you still want to fuck her is sometimes too great of a burden for a man to bear.

>>94833634
Raven's are cuter but also stinkier

>>94830398
>different skin and hair color from a character who's sole defining trait is her unique skin and hair color

So just a girl then

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>>94828712
One night stand/sexfriend - Starfire.

Marriage - Raven.

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>>94828747
"Asshole, yet Cozy" Raven seems like she is the best fit for me.

>>94828712
raven most def. i got that grey fever.

>>94828712
Starfire
she's friendly and curious and open, which are things I respect and need in my life

>>94836352
>girls are nothing more than their hair and skin colors
How shallow

>>94828712
>womanlets

>>94830398
Your gf is a very blonde, pale, alien princess who can fly and shoot bolts of energy out of her hands and eyes?

>>94838919
yeah, he forgot pussy and titts!

Raven

Starfire is the only correct answer

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>>94840555
Trips confirm

>>94828712
Raven.
>Smart
>Reserved
>Cute

>>94828747
Whichever Raven is Rebirth Raven

She does things to me

>>94828734
especially since Star's so naive she would just accept/think that it's a normal thing after a while

>>94828712
Whichever one would be willing to play some vidya with me. I need a couch co op buddy.

>>94828712
Both

>>94832255
Is that a euphemism for something?

I mean, do you *have* any errant locomotives lying around to use for these purposes?

>>94845885
yes

>>94828712
Raven = SJW liberal Tumblr
Starfire = Redpilled

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>>94828776
I wanted Jinx

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>>94847546
Raven is too jaded to be a sjw. She probably views everyones traditional and political views as ultimately pointless.

imagine regularly visiting this board

>>94847641
so a 4th wave feminist aswell

typical

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>>94828712
Argent. She seems kind for a goth.

I even thought about ways of reintroducing her into New52 like having her backstory be retconned into being an experiment of the Daemonites as a weapon against Kherubim. It'd mix Wildstorm and DC lore nicely

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>>94847673
I meant it in a nihilistic way.

>>94847546
>starfire redpilled

Just because she looks like trump doesn't mean she'll think like him

>>94847699
So Raven is a fedora tipper?

>>94848572
Eh, she doesn't really seem like the sort to wear a hat.

>>94847698
Goths are almost always liberal leftist irrational feminist

I wonder why?

>>94850112
why?

>>94850112
Isn't it because goths are non conformist and being a liberal leftist irrational feminist is the most non conformist thing to be these days?

>>94850112

Most musical subcultures are leftist. Country is probably the only one that's predominantly to the right.

Goths are also more accepting of non Christian values, so if you want to be gay, have two girlfriends, or anything else that the right loves, Goths will generally take you in. If you got the church out of conservativism, you'd probably see a lot more people lean that way. Bible thumper drive a lot of otherwise friendly people away.

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>>94847546
>"I respect that you don't eat meat. Please respect that I don't eat fake meat."
>Reads patrician-tier literature, like history or philosophy (The Book of Azar, The Book of Nol) instead of YA genre fiction or "empowering" self-help books
>Reclusive, doesn't go out her way to make a scene or attract attention.
>Tries to suppress her emotions, acts and speaks on logic rather than fancy most of the time.

Obviously, she's not supposed to be on any part of the political compass because she's just a character, but her attributes hardly fit the mold of a far left SJW.

>>94854209
given her powers are tied to her emotions that's less a personal choice and more required of her

>>94854209
What's weird is that I always pictured Raven as a vegetarian. Azarath is a completely pacifist society and you wouldn't want that half-demon to develop a taste for blood.

>>94854290
I'm glad they didn't make her a vegecuck like Beast Boy.

>>94854519
At least BB has a somewhat legit reason for being one.

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>>94854277
That is true, but practicing that for so long since her youth would have likely an impact on her perspective, to the point that that if it were suddenly removed from her, she would not act very much differently. Even Raven in her white form isn't too far removed in this way.
>>94854290
Maybe its more of a "eat the clean animals, don't eat the unclean animals" sort of tradition. Idk.

Speaking as a former Ravenfag, she is a far from the best waifu and an awful choice to take home to the parents. Yeah she's sexy but her personality isn't. No one wants to be around some moody witch.

>>94847644
imagine coming to this board just to make this post and thinking you've made some substantial point

>>94829735
>He used unusual, eccentric, and sometimes cruel, techniques to try to increase her fortitude, such as firing blanks at her skirts, dripping hot wax on her arms, and having her wade into a lake fully dressed to test her resilience to cold water.
Just because he did a poor job at it doesn't mean it can't work

>>94854519
>Why would someone who can turn into animals be against wanting to eat animals, that makes no sense at all.

>>94855288
animals eat animals, and lots practice cannibalism.

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>>94855053
That why you're single?

>>94855692
Does it bother you that I'm not?

>>94854519
The only bad thing about vegetarian beast boy is that his favorite food was tofu.

>>94828712
My parents have no filter, so it's going to be embarrassing no matter who I choose. Starfire has a better sense of humor, so she'll probably be the girl I'd want to take to my parents. On the flip-side I like girls like Raven who are mostly composed and loyal to the man she has feelings for. Unfortunately, I like to kid around a lot, girls like Raven are more critical of the man they love than any other boy. Plus her daddy issues will be a contributing factor to why she's so hard on the man closest to her.

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>>94855831
No, just being a smart arse anon.

>>94853492
this

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>>94829822
BEATS GIRL IS BEST GIRL!

>>94856008
I'm going to run a thought by you.

What if...and I know this is crazy but hear me out here...what if her being so "critical" of Beast Boy ISN'T her being tsundere for him? What if she ACTUALLY just finds him obnoxious and the whole relationship is a fucking crack pairing children on the internet made up because they don't have the relationship experience to know that "opposites attract" doesn't actually work IRL?

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>>94857717
This anon get's it. This is why I've always hated BBxRae because IMHO it's complete bullshit for the same reasons. It's always nice to know I'm not the only one who shares this view. This post cheered me up Anon thanks a lot.

>>94857717
>>94858328
That's a pretty far fetched headcanon you've got there.

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>>94828712
Neither. They are for meeting each other's parents.

Or they would, if not for the whole dead/demon thing.

>>94857717
>"opposites attract"

Raven and Beast Boy aren't that different. If you want to bring some reality into this, two people who are too similar don't work in real life either. It needs to be somewhere in the middle.

>>94857717
>What if she ACTUALLY just finds him obnoxious
But she doesn't, we know that she thinks he's funny and cute.

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>>94830636
So did a guy in America.

>>94858968
We know that a small sliver of her personality, when detached from all the rest of the traits that make a person whole, thinks that. And that sliver would probably think happy, positive things about everyone it meets.

>>94843024
Its normal for her troq """people"""

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>>94831906

>>94855483
Humans are supposed to be above animals

Starfire would be such a better girlfriend it's not even close. Raven would get annoying inside a week.

>>94859160
Someone who's in touch with the red should understand the concept of the food chain. The reason most animals exist is to provide a food source for higher animals.

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>>94859308

>>94859308
>I know that they paired them up in the old comics

Not even. They were a couple for, like, three issues during Geoff Johns' run, which came out while the cartoon was on the air.

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>>94858427
I'm just going to leave a link to this blog that say's it all. Whoever runs it, basically just describes it in their own words why the pairing doesn't work and just comes to the same conclusion as me. Here's the link http://ravenoftheteentitans.blogspot.ie/2015/02/defending-raven.html
So in conclusion I just think the original cartoon Raven would be too smart to end up in a relationship with someone like Beast boy. The blog entry say's it all, but at the end of the day we are just giving opinions. So if you like the pairing that's ok as it's (sort of) a free country so let's just agree to disagree on the pairing.

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>>94859357
Yeah but that was a different continuity to the cartoon and basically a different Raven. I did read some of the tie-in comics based on the show and I still saw no evidence of them working as a couple. Pic related (panel five in particular).

>bring Starfire home
>family starts asking questions about how she feels about black people
>She doesn't understand the question
>Make a reference to all the really dark skinned guys she "meets on the job"
>It slips that she works as a superhero somewhere down the line
>Family drops real world statistics trying to figure out if the comparison is true, she confirms she basically gets a ton of these guys injured and arrested for violent crimes
>Couple of weeks go by
>Has started using racial slurs against the villains
>Calls up trying to figure out why Cyborg was offended at "Oh no, you are not of "the criminal niggers," Cyborg. You are Cyborg! Most of the criminal was removed and replaced with much better parts."

I'd love to help her realize why she fights.

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>>94859349

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>>94857635
I prefer Beast Boy. Good taste either way, senpai.

>>94859018
Then where was the I hate beast boy personality?

>>94859579
>I'm gonna link to some guy's blog to explain my opinions
Please don't.

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>>94828712
BEGONE THOT

>>94861830
Hate's a strong word, but ALL of the other colors would be the ones you're looking for.

Most people have friends who annoy us, who we don't always get along with, who maybe we don't even like but we still tolerate because they're part of the gang, a friend of a friend, and hanging with the group means dealing with the fact that that person will have to be there too.

One usually doesn't disown that person because some sliver of your personality appreciates what little you do have in common.

That sliver doesn't secretly want to fuck them, that's retarded.

>>94861830
Pink Raven's favorite color is a different favorite color from the real. composite Raven. You think the bitch's entire life is a lie and she secretly loves pink?

If you're gonna separate a person into pieces all based on a single aspect, like this is their happy side and that's their angry side and so on, OF COURSE they're going to act completely different from the whole, normal version of that person.

That was kind of the entire point of the episode. None of the colored Ravens were the real her, they didn't represent repressed truths, they represented untempered extremes. "Happy you" is going to be cheerful and positive about stuff that the real you don't actually feel that way about, because "Happy you" is INCAPABLE of feeling unhappy about something. Duh.

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>>94828712
Let's see
>Daughter of interdimensional satan, that literally has the interdimensional satan on her forehead 24/7
vs
>Tall, Strong, Orange Alien, who is optimistic, positive, and makes an excellent leader.

>>94861884
I just wanted to save time and not waffle as what was on the blog does the job and gets the point across.

>>94862030
It's not a small sliver though, this is how Raven actually feels about beast boy. She's an empath and that makes emotions a very big deal for her so when the personification of Raven's happiness says that she find his jokes funny and hom to be cute I take that as Raven's actual feelings.

>>94862167
Secretly? No I wouldn't say she secretly loves pink because that shit ain't a secret.

>>94862442
>this is how Raven actually feels about beast boy.

It's how ONE of her emotions feels when ALL HER OTHER EMOTIONS are subtracted from the equation.

How do you not understand how that changes things?

>>94862442
The personification of a person's happiness would be incapable of ever feeling unhappy about ANYTHING.

Pink Raven would find nice things to say about her worst enemies.

>>94850112
When you were growing up maybe, that's because goths are by nature anti-mainstream. Back in the day, hippy liberal shit was counterculture, but now it's in the mainstream so we're seeing a huge swing back to traditional.

Regardless of that, nothing makes me diamonds like fingers with black nail polish going up and down my cock.

>>94850112
Because they usually have a lot of issues with their parents that makes them resent authority. I dated a goth once, she gave me that whole routine about not caring about anything and existence being pointless but at the end of the day she wanted someone to guide her because she had a terrible childhood and a father who didn't love her enough. Goths are 99% of the time people that desperately want to be loved yet rebel against anything seen as status quo
due to feeling alienated by the people who adhere to it.

Starfire would inevitably be hard to connect with.

Raven would have so many issues that she'd be one of those girls that creates drama for the experience.

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Let's keep this going with this.

>>94832255
that's one fat starfire

>>94855831
No because we know you're lying.

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>>94857635
Great tastes, anon.

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>>94862179
It's really a lose lose situation because Starfire's powers is tied to her emotions and the ecstasy she would get from sex with you would be enough to cause her super strength to kick in and have your dick compacted into a fine paste by her vagoo.

Probably starfire. My mom is already gloomy & sarcastic with a sweet side. They'd make Freud jokes if I brought home Raven.

>>94865857
What's she reading, anon?

>>94866291
Are you serious?

>>94866735
Her super strength is always on, the only "super powers" she has are her star-bolts. The flying, the durability, the strength are all just native to her race.

>>94862179
I know right? It makes choosing Raven way easier.

>>94869022
Look at that tummy, the photo is angled to hide it but it's there

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>>94870530

>>94869878
So what? A little extra tummy is a cute look.

>>94828712
Unlikely as is it is, my gf is almost Raven already, so I guess I'd pick her. I don't know what I did to deserve this but I'm extremely happy.

>>94828712
Starfire is black now

Niggers of space confirmed

>>94871569
>Comparing 2D to /tv/ shit

You need to go back.

>>94832255

No silly, starfire is black now.

>>94855053
>I've only ever seen the Teen Titans cartoon

>>94871425
Lucky you

Watch out for demon dads

>>94857635
I'll take all three :^)

>>94828712
Why is Starfire dressed like a cheap slut?

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>>94828712
I would introduce my parents to her like this and have no regrets.