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Aside from Tokenism and Race what does he bring to the table

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Aside from Tokenism and Race what does he bring to the table

>Speed?
>Magic?
>Invisibility/Stealth?
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>>94822816

He's an athletic combatant with a battle suit and the financial resources of a small nation.

he's African Bruce Wayne.
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>>94822816
A retarded nation that makes less fucking sense than TF2 Australia.
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>>94822816
He looks like handsome squidward
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What does anyone "bring to the table"? He's a skilled superhuman fighter, he's one of the smartest scientists on the Earth, he's the leader of a powerful city-state.
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>>94822961
>Retarded nation becomes a technologically advanced superpower thanks to magical ass-pull metal
Damn, never made that connection.
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>>94822816
Basically everything Captain America has, plus way better technology. The downside is that he can't make the patriotic speeches to inspire everyone else.
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>>94822816
You know what I'm getting sick of? The whole "Token Black" "Le Diversity purpose black guy" Myth /pol/ has been spewing all over this site now.

I was ok with it on fucking /v/ because what video games have become now it's pretty suspicious, but, /tv/ and /co/? No, that's bullshit. Literally every single "Token" black character /pol/ has been bitching about have existed before there fucking fathers were born. What if, now here me out, these "black" characters are GOOD FUCKING CHARACTERS with ACTUALLY GOOD BACKSTORIES AND DESIGNS???!
>inb4 /co/mblr

No, I've had enough. Go fuck yourself OP.
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>>94823059
At least Australians share and trade their shit with the world. All we get to explain Wakanda being super rich and successful despite never trading with anyone and existing in the Shit part of Africa is "it just works, shut up".
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>>94822816
He's Namor if you want someone as brutally pragmatic as Namor, but don't want someone who is as big an asshole as Namor.
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>>94823139
/co/mblr get out
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>>94823139
But we're talking about black Panther, who is niether of those things.
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>>94823249
T'Challa is great, go fuck yourself you little contrarian neo-nazi shit.
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>>94822890
so he is the party's ninja?
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>>94823139
>Literally every single "Token" black character /pol/ has been bitching about have existed before there fucking fathers were born.
Except for Miles, Tanya, Riri, Duke, and black Wally.
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>>94822816
Nothing, he is an absolutely boring character, his best moments where in books were he wasn't the main character.
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BP is the team's stealth guy. He's not as strong as Captain America, not as martially adept, nor is he as charismatic. However he comes a close second. However one thing he excels at is pulling a Batman.
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>>94823291
Forgetting the Moongirl, you fucking racist-sexist?
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>>94823375
I was only listing characters with a potential for good stories.
Yes I did forget her, and I'm upset with myself because I had a nagging feeling that there was one more and spent five minutes trying to remember before giving up.
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>>94822816
The roblem is...he dosen't bring anything to the table, someone else dosen't already have.

Magic:Thor
Peak performance/no power combatant:Captain America, Black widow, and Hawkeye.
Sneaking around:Black widow.
Money:Iron man.
Nation behind him:Thor.
Technology:Iron man.

The thing is...however. He dosen't bring anything new to the table, but he's pretty much a jack of all trades. He can fight similar to iron man in skill, with a high level of tech/money like iron man, has a nation behind him, and can do magic like thor, and is pretty good at stealth like black widow. He's the tight end.
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>>94822816
Ask any batfag why Bruce Wayne is part of the Justice League when Superman exists.
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>>94822816
A lot of fucking money.
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>>94823139
Hahahaha you think that /pol/ come here hahaha, you are an idiot.
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>>94823427
Dumb post
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>>94823284
Yeah, more or less.
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>>94823427
This is fucking stupid

That's like saying wonder woman is pointless because Superman is already the strong guy
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>>94823427
he will probably replace thor

sadly
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>>94823536
>wonder woman
she has fighting skills

she's more of a Aquaman redundant than superman
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>>94822816
Diversity
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>>94823427
>Nation behind him:Thor.
If by "behind him" you mean "providing him with a steady stream of Norse-themed villains to fuck his shit up", then sure.
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>>94822890
>>94823284
>>94823483
This

He's Batman + Captain America tier athletics (the potion you drink to become Black Panther makes you superhuman like Cap's serum)
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>>94823139
Black Panther, Luke Cage and Falcon actually were literally created because Stan Lee wanted to get more black readers. Likewise, Tigra, Night Nurse and Ms. Marvel were created solely to get female readers around the same time.

A lot of these characters were indeed made as "tokens" to get more money. It didn't stop them from becoming great characters, of course. But in comics they have a long history of being created for financial purposes first.
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>>94824201
Super soldier serum only makes you "peak human" like Batman, as does Panther's herb.
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>>94824290
>Batman
>Peak Human

He can still get his ass kicked by Bronze Tiger or Lady Shiva. And in their crossover he acknowledged Steve would beat him when they had a face off.
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In spite of what the Iron-dick sucking movies told you, Panther and Wakanda actually supplied most of the technology the Avengers had in the comics, such as the quinjets and any custom vehicles.
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>>94823461
You type like Tommy Wiseau
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>>94824381
Oh hi carol
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>>94824367
I thought they suppiled most of the raw materials
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>>94824447
I thought they just mined the quarry
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>>94824290
africans do enjoy the herb
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>>94823275
Making up a fictional black country to say SEE AFRICA CAN BE SUCCESSFUL is not well written and is a piss-poor backstory.
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>>94824229
He made a bunch of white characters to get white kid money, I don't see how making some black characters to get black kid money is any different
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>>94823249
>he hasn't read Priest's run
I pity you.
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>>94824489
Not that anon, but are you saying the premise isn't well written or that any of the stories from the premise can ever be well written?
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>>94824514
No he made a bunch of white characters because that was the base normal when he started making comics. When he realized that these characters only appealed to white people he made black characters.

You really don't understand why people talk about Straight White Male being considered the base, and why that may or may not be a problem, do you? I mean, you really have no fucking clue what that whole argument is actually about.
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>>94824554
The premise isn't well written when there is no justification for it. See >>94823221

Wakanda is successful because Wakanda is successful. That's the explanation. The end. All the comics do is suck their dick and say how dumb and churlish everyone else is, even though they're the most arrogant pieces of shit ever.
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>>94824489
They could have at least done it based on an actual nation like Ethiopia, which came THIS close to breaking Africa's failure streak. But it fell apart after Haile Sellaisse died cause he couldn't modernize them fast enough

>>94824572
>You really don't understand why people talk about Straight White Male being considered the base, and why that may or may not be a problem, do you?

Not that anon but no, I've never gotten this. Because i'm not a fucking racist with self confidence issues. It's not my problem Black People see THEMSELVES as not the base. This is internalized.
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>>94824611
>even though they're the most arrogant pieces of shit ever.
I could've sworn Priest said something similar.
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>>94822816
You know this shit isn't real, right?
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>>94825598
OP himself isn't real
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>>94823427
hawkeye is the ranger, marksman
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>>94823427
>Black Widow
CASUAL
A
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>>94823427
Magic Warrior: Thor
Superman = Cap
Tech/Money = Tony
Infiltration/Stealth = Widow
Marksman/weapon = Hawkeye

Nuke this shit up pham = Hulk
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>>94824346
To be fair, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger, and above all, Richard Dragon, are basically superhuman.

I could see Dragon giving Deathstroke trouble.
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>>94822816
He's richer than Bruce Wayne and enjoys actual diplomatic immunity.
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>>94823221
Wakanda does trade in the MCU, they just hide the advanced part from the rest of the world.

I prefer that people know it exists but don't know the rest version. They're isolationist, they isolate and don't support the rest of the world, I thought people liked selfish nations.
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So how does Black Panther justify dicking around with the Avengers to his people? Isn't he supposed to be Wakanda's king?
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>>94826502
Barbarian = Thor
Shield kinght = Cap
Thinker/gadgetry = Tony
Assasin = Widow
Archer/Sinper = Hawkeye
Berserker = Hulk

I wonder why widow doesn't have any poison ability
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>>94822816
depends on how they write him
the problem isn't with him, it's that every other character has been assigned a specific role because that's what the popular movies put them as
He doesn't bring one specific thing to the table, which is seen as a bad thing, but the fact that he's so multifaceted would be a good thing IRL
Tokenism is the only thing he brings to the table, and they can't exploit that for obvious reasons, they can't just use him to solve diplomatic disputes (also, he has his own countries politics to worry about)
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>>94826556
Widow has her stingers, wrist mounted multi-payload weapons. They're like Batmans Utility belt.

Widow's Line - Retractable grappling hook and cable connected to the gauntlets, mostly used for rooftop gliding, rappelling and climbing up steep cliffs and hills.
Widow's Kiss - An aerosol instant knock-out drug, pioneered by Russian Spetsnaz. When used it appears to be purplish pink fumes that can knock out a person for more than twenty hours.
Widow's Bite - A high frequency electrostatic charge that also act as percussive energy blasts, that it effects can be felt for at least a month. It can deliver charges up to 30,000 volts. The "Bite" can be set to deliver minor shocks that causes stunning or high voltage currents that can be lethal.
Explosives - There are many types of explosives stored in the gauntlet which includes grenades and other types of explosives that can cause damage to an opponent.
Tear Gas Pellets - There is also tear in the gauntlet that can cause blindness when released. It can also cause the opponent to be knocked unconscious.
Radio Transmitter - This enable Widow to lock on to a target and track its every move. If placed on a moving vehicle like a car or bike, it enables Widow to track down their location.
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>>94826595
Those sound like fighting game attacks.
>Widow's Kiss!
>Widow's Kiss
>Widow's Kiss
>Widow's Kiss!
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>>94822816
Stories of him destroying your mother's twat.
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>>94823139
This is almost too subtle.
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>>94822816
Batman with enchansed senses and powerful armor and weapons instead of bullshitting around with batarangs and spandex. And after the last Ultimates comic, apparently he can get super high and ascend the planes as a Panther spirit.
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Ironman is already the batman?
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>>94826538
only America is allowed to be selfish and isolationist, everything else belongs to America
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>>94822816
That's what miles and riri did, he brought vibranium mines into use.
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>>94826547
How can Tony Stark run a multi-national corporation while dicking around with the Avengers?
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>>94823059
>bronze age
>iron age
>steel age
Huh really makes you think
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>>94822816
Probably leader of his own City
Just like Submariner or Aqua man.
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>>94823427
>>94826502
>>94822816
From what I can tell...
He's a super scientist with the available usage of a super battle suit [Iron Man]
He has access to the political ties of the world while also being athletic, nimble, and fucking nimble as an assassin [Black Widow]
He's a symbol to his nation and kicks ass protecting it while using super exotic rare materials [Captain America]
He also has the ability to use mystical powers [Thor].

He does everything as ONE super hero. The fact that he's black is a bonus (however you look at it). It's like cellphones today. If we reworded your question it'd be the same thing, 10ish years ago.

Aside from CONVENIENCE and TECH-BONERS what does iPhones bring to the table?

>Cameras?
>Internet?
>Calls?
>Apps?
>Entertainment?
>GPS?

And now that I've typed that I realized that >>94823427
had already made this point. I'm still posting this though.
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>>94822816
Depends partly on the series. In A:EMH, he was basically the show's Gary Sue; better Tech than Iron Man, better Charles Atlas Superpowers than Captain America, better Magic than Thor.

In the comics? Generally he's basically Black Captain America with Iron Man level cash and sometimes technology to go with.

Seriously, I get the desire for good black superheroes, but Wakanda is a frigging mess of a nation that absolutely reeks of positive discrimination.
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>>94824489
Wakanda is cast in the same mold as Atlantis or El Dorado, its nothing to do with 'proving' anything. Throughout Kirby and Lee's work with stuff like Attilan we can see that they thought advanced secret civilizations were cool, so repeated the trope.
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>>94826941
thats nice but we already have those archetypes

anything else thats unique to him only
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>>94823059
>the females have mustaches
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>>94824290
Ebin
Steve is above human.
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>>94822816
Well he has control over Tiger God capable of ripping apart the laws that dictate reality.

Too OP, pls nerf
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>>94824290
It gives absolute maximum in human potential. He has strength of ten men, able to perform at peak levels for hours on end. Captain America would leave Usain Bolt in the dust in a 100m dash, while continuing on at that speed to win the 10km. He would be the guy who would break the WR in weight lifting rather easily. Lastly you know the female gymnasts? How acrobatic they are? Captain America would make them look like they're toddlers playing around on jungle gym.

Batman might be at Olympic peak. He's no Captain America. Until recently when in Rebirth he was ressurected using the same magic metals that Court Of Owls uses for ressurecting their Talons. Whom are probably at Captain America levels seeing how Batman is physically overpowered.
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>>94826538
The advanced shitnis all they have going for them though. Without that, they have nothing worth trading for.
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>>94826608
>It's another "I'm going spam knockout gas" Black Widow player
You're a cancer, kill yourself
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>>94823427
black panther is basically a better iron man because writers can't shit on him like they do with tony without being accused of racism
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Why is /pol/ so obsessed with blacks and trying to prove they're better than them? It's like Vegeta telling everyone he's a prince while Goku is a low class but we all know Goku can kick his ass.

I realized how pathetic /pol/ was when I saw some /pol/ack rattle off some health statistics about blacks off the top of his head. How and why do you know that? It's fucking weird.
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>>94822816
>smarter than Tony
>Richer than Tony
>stronger and faster than Captain America

The real question is why are Tony and Steve still part of the Avengers when he can replace them easily
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>>94824229
What if I told you that everything ever created in comics was created for financial purposes first?
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>>94829119
Inferiority complex.
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>>94829645
>smarter than Tony
Nope, he just has more common sense than Tony.
>stronger and faster than Captain America
Faster maybe but he has never been stronger than Cap
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>>94829962
read some comics nigga. He is a better scientist than Tony, he solves a lot of science that Tony can't. Hell, he can hack all of Tony's gadgets easily.

Cap is peak human, Black Panther is peak human AND enhanced by magic. Panther is stronger than Cap
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>>94830047
We need proofs of these
>>94829645
That's why I'm asking what does he bring that's unique only to him if you already have tony and steve
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>>94822816
He's the equivalent of Captain America+Batman
The suit plus the enhanced agility and athleticism, which I shit you not comes from fucking herbs
He's also bulletproof and owns a fucking country
He alone can fund any avengers or otherwise escapades or whatever
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>>94824489
>In a world
>Where America's greatest soldier is a result of drugs
>America's greatest scientists are an alcoholic engineer and a cancer ridden gamma radiation specialist
>The literal devil makes pacts with someone to make them into an acolyte of the actual representation of vengeance personified who goes rouge and destroys the underworld
>Where a kid bitten by a spider can bench press hundreds of tons
And a technologically advanced African country is honestly your concern?
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>>94823275
>go fuck yourself you little contrarian neo-nazi shit.

you dumb cunts calling everyone who disagrees with you a neo-nazi or a nazi is why charlottesville happened.
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>>94822816
>Wakanda is 800,000 years older than Homo Sapiens
>Is years more advanced than the rest of the world
>Black Panther is richer than the rest of the world
>Is a better scientist than Tony
>Is a better athlete than Cap
At this point, T'Challa should be called "Gary Stu".
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>>94830275
>We need proofs of these
Read a fucking comic, it's shown in dozens of comics. Have you never heard of the Heart Shaped Herb?
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He's African Batman. Also, this is like asking why the fuck is Kate Bishop called to help out when they already have Hawkeye, or asking Shazam for help when you already have Superman. Because the more the merrier. If you have more than one genius on your team or more than one ninja, you can be a more efficient team. He brings his own skills and shit to help all the other skillful shits. Did you make this post asking sincerely or is this some race baiting bullshit from someone who's probably never read a fucking Black Panther comic before?
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>>94830698
>why the fuck is Kate Bishop called to help out when they already have Hawkeye,
Because she is the real Hawkeye.
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>>94824229
>But in comics they have a long history of being created for financial purposes first.
Stan Lee understood that you have to write at least half decent stories to make a character beloved.

Modern Marvel expects us to love them first, because...?

I'm not racist in the least, but apparently it seems to be that they expect us to love them because they're brown.
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>>94830698
Realistically yeah you're totally right, but these are comics and movies with limited screentime/pages. Characters are already at odds with each other to have any spotlight at all. In the context of a super team, Most of the time, the spotlight comes in the form of a character overcoming some obstacle that the other characters would have significantly more trouble overcoming. To have redundancy in skill set like that makes characters step on each other's toes for that spotlight, resulting in neither character getting enough time to shine.
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>>94830563
You're a moron. No matter how many times your kind called feminists/Obama supporters etc Nazis, even the worst and most vile of them never decided to embrace it.

Some get way too found of communism, but they seem to leave that foolishness online.
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>>94823427
You don't need new for everything. Redundancy is good for a high powered team in the event one member can't do something.
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>>94828954
They could have farming and stuff, not every trade is about weapons.
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>>94824613
Basing it on Ethopia doesn't even make sense.

Legit question, why does Namor having a super advanced nation not take any shit? Or how about Doom who is even more ridiculous as he went into a 3rd world, war torn country and turned it into the 2nd most advanced country in the world. While only having the resources of his magic spells and freshly burned face.

But somehow BP's nation is hard to swallow? Even when the writers have gone out of their way to explain the country is full of selfish,hypocritical pricks that would collapse the nation into civil war were it not for BP? And sits on top of a plot device?

I think the only thing hard to believe about BP is the fact he is a permanent member of the avengers instead of doing more king type shit.
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>>94831178
>why does Namor having a super advanced nation not take any shit?
Super-advanced? Mavel's Atlantis only has blue retards. And nobody cares about Namor.

>>94831178
>Or how about Doom who is even more ridiculous as he went into a 3rd world, war torn country and turned it into the 2nd most advanced country in the world. While only having the resources of his magic spells and freshly burned face.
There's a thread to shit on Latveria every week.

>>94831178
>But somehow BP's nation is hard to swallow?
It is literally almost a million years older than civilization and its wealthiness comes from a resource they do not trade. It doesn't make sense.
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>>94831253
>There's a thread to shit on Latveria every week.
There's really not. People shit on Doom because DOOM, but nobody really cares about Latveria
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>>94831253
>Super-advanced? Mavel's Atlantis only has blue retards. And nobody cares about Namor.
this is what a casual thinks. People love Namor. And no one complained when Namor partnered with the X-men and created Utopia. Atlantians are far more advanced than the standard people in Marvel

Face it, it's only cause Black Panther is black that people are triggered over it. And this wasn't even an issue until recently
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>>94826547
Its justified as world level diplomacy or some shit. Still retarded seeing him punch purse snatchers however.

>>94826911
Did comic Tony ever hold onto his company for long? I thought he did like the movies and just held on to a controlling percent while the peons ran it. He kept his spot because everyone knew he could invent a million dollar idea in his sleep.

>>94831253
>Namor
Is his nation in a state of shambles? While not super science level I always thought it had some impressive technology for being far in the sea under tremendous pressures.

>>94831253
I skip the Doom threads. I know they shit on his mary sue status but don't know if they actually target his nation state status like they do BP.

>>94831253
Those facts are from nu-marvel and should be ignored. Before if I recall correctly it was more like a meteorite had landed in their city which lead to them getting a massive head start compared to everyone. I don't believe their wealth was stated but they were self-sufficient so outside trade wasn't a big deal. Still not that extreme compared to the shit we've seen Tony and his company do with money.
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>>94831361
>this is what a casual thinks. People love Namor.
This /co/ meme needs to die.

Namor is less popular than Aqualad, for fucks sake! Which kind of "extremely beloved character" can't even sell a fucking book?
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>>94831452
>Which kind of "extremely beloved character" can't even sell a fucking book?
Martian Manhunter
Starfire
Raven
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>>94831542
All three of them are more popular than Namor and had books not that long ago.
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>>94831608
when was the last time MM had a solo book? Raven hasn't, Starfire did but it was only a cheesecake book.

Besides, you don't need a solo book to make you popular. Beast was great until recently and he never had a solo book since shortly after his origin. Hell, the entire cast of the X-men throws your theory out the window, most of them have never had solo books but are beloved characters
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>>94831867
>when was the last time MM had a solo book?
Two years ago, I think.

>Raven hasn't,
She had. Little more than a year ago.

>the entire cast of the X-men throws your theory out the window, most of them have never had solo books but are beloved characters
The entire cast of X-Men is more popular than Namor. Namor is maybe Bishop-tier.

Also, this is a thread to talk about Black Panther Gay Stuism. If you want to talk about how Namor is as popular as Batman but can't sell books because reasons, go make a thread about it.
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>>94822816
Kitty cat claws.
Maybe throwing knives.

T'Challa brings to the table the understanding of how not to make a black character and in a way characters in general at least for a comicbook.
Their ethnicity should not be any more of a defining factor than most white characters.
Instead T'Challa is steeped in his African ancestry of his fictional country.
He may as well be a black version of Thor.
He couldn't even just be
>The Panther
He has to be
>The BLACK panther
You know, the color panther's already are on average.

Lower on that list for me of why he was a mistake is your reason of
>What is his expertise?

I like Cyborg honestly because he has more technological expertise than even Batman.
He also fulfills the ferryman role seen in many groups by opening boomtubes.

T'Challa is just Hawkeye/Black Widow tier as far as I'm concerned.
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>>94831309
Seriously. Noone pretends Doom couldn't do the stuff he did to make Latvertia modern. They just don't buy into doomwank. BP gets a movie and now certain "people" have realized there's a black character around so it's time to get super offended that the character exists.
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>>94829087
Shit on Tony? They aren't doing that on purpose. It's the end result of how he's "naturally" being written. At least MurderCarol has had some messed up shit happen to her to make her the way she is.
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>>94833770
lemme guess youre white
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>>94831081
Wakanda is a very small country surrounded by enemies with a reputation for being industrialized and high tech. No matter how Super-fertile their soil is, there is no way they can produce enough food to put them par with The largest food exporters in the world, America and Brazil, in terms of income while also being to keep with expenses like defense.
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>>94833770
>Instead T'Challa is steeped in his African ancestry of his fictional country.
>He may as well be a black version of Thor.
And why exactly is this a bad thing? It's not like African mythology and aesthetic is all that similar to Norse's.
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>>94834559
Comics!

There is no way puny Banner can produce the amount of mass he does for Hulk but hey, we accept that he has access to meat space so its ok.
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>>94830874
To me it seems less "love these characters because they're brown/women/gay/whatever" and more "if you don't love these characters, you're racist/sexist/homophobic".

It's sad, because any genuine criticisms someone might have about a character/story are just being deflected with "shut up, bigot!"
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How many of you daft cunts have actually read Kirby, McGregor or Priest's Panther stories? I thought David Liss was pretty good too.
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This thread is sad
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>>94833770
>Instead T'Challa is steeped in his African ancestry of his fictional country.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Would you rather he be from NYC like just about everyone else?
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Latveria is a better country than Wakanda.
I am saying this out of my own free will, and I am not being forced by our rightful ruler Doctor Victor von Doom to praise our glorious nation.
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>>94836122
Exactly. Aquaman is steeped in the culture of his fictional country cos he's the king of Atlantis, it's exactly the same with Panther. What makes him interesting is his role as Wakanda's sovereign. Is Captain America too American? Why must every /co/ Panther thread be fucking terrible?
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why does it fucking matter if he "brings something original to the table". Superheroes have never worked that way, they've been mixing and matching a lot of similar powers and sticking them on new characters for ages.

Why is anyone trying to seriously answer such an asinine question
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>>94835936
>I thought David Liss was pretty good too.
Same here but his treatment of White Wolf was shit. White Wolf was a classy evil motherfucker who ran the Wakandian Secret Police and Liss depicted him as crazy obsessive about killing T'Challa for a throne he would never have.
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>>94827133
In this context it sounds much more natural when you say "women", anon.
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>>94822890

So he is black Tony Stark?
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>>94835628
That'd be fine, if weren't supposed to accept Wakanda as this super awesome place that rest of the world has to suck dick to because plot armor allows it to exist.
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>>94823139
Yeah, i keep hearing "Why is DC pushing CYBORG? BECAUSE HES BLACK?!??!"


Hes been around forever. Hes fucking already had his story told, evolved to liquid metal and shit.

Is this their first DC book? i mean, cmon...
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>>94823139
>>94823275
>>94823375
This is why Generation Z is overwhelming conservative and we're going to have Red States and Republicans be dominant in the coming years
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>>94836888
>Is this their first DC book?
Most people that complain about Cyborg only know him from the cartoon like the people who complained about Starfire. Others are upset that Cyborg is a founding member of the JL and not Martian Manhunter because of The Big 7. Funny thing is that every other black character they suggest to replace him is no better when put through the same scrutiny as they did with Cyborg except Static who has his own issues.
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>>94837154
It certainly can't because of three posts out of a thread of over a hundred. I'm pretty sure at least one of them is blatant bait.
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>>94836888
Nobody is bitching about Cyborg existing. The bitching is about Cyborg being pushed as a founding member of the Justice League.
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>>94829087
Can't shit on Black Panther? His current solo is doing a fine job at shitting on Black Panther left and right. Lost control of his nation. A bunch of superhuman feminists that are also extremists are attempting to overthrow him. Another group of terrorists is lead by another superhuman feminist that wants to create mass fear.
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>>94837226
>Funny thing is that every other black character they suggest to replace him is no better when put through the same scrutiny as they did with Cyborg.
Vixen is an infinitely better choice for a founding league member, doesn't have the baggage of being better known to normies as a member of the junior team and has a far more interesting power than "muh implanted alien tech lets me make this asspull' man
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>>94830959
>No matter how many times your kind called feminists/Obama supporters etc Nazis, even the worst and most vile of them never decided to embrace it.
that's because that never happened.

>Some get way too found of communism, but they seem to leave that foolishness online.
Yeah, black/red bloc don't exist and the faggots acting the fool w/ Occupy never happened.
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>>94837444
I don't know anon, I ran across a lot Obama/hitler images during his presidency. You can still find them on google images.
Not that other anon btw
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>>94837154
>Gen Z is overwhelmingly conservative

iggy shiggy diggy
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>>94830959
So you play For Honor?
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>>94836472
Yeah it's a shame the Wolf isn't around anymore, did Hudlin kill him? I'm probably just biased to the Liss run cos I love Franavilla's art in general.
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>>94837444
I remember a lot of parallels being drawn between 'FEMA death camps' and the holocaust.

>red/black bloc
Literally who

>occupy
Nobody was chanting about reenacting the stalinist purges, as opposed to recent events
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>>94837902
Hudlin killed Black Conan Zuri, Man-Ape and Killmonger. Wolf is still in jail, I think.
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>>94829119
Why the hell would you ask /co/ that? Lurk there if you actually give a fuck.
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>>94837975
Hudlin also killed of W'Kabi
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>>94837154
Good thing America isn't important anymore then
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>>94838212
Unless You're a Chink or a Ruskie, you don't have any ground to be calling anyone unimportant.
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>>94838212
>There are people that unironically believe this
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>>94823139
i'm right there with you, pal.
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>>94837338
Funny enough while I hate femnazis as well Marvel shit the bed on tying them to Black Panther. Magic Femnazi is taking advantage of Wakanda still using a caste system and practially slave labor on non-wakandans (by this I mean Nigerians and other Africans of non-wakandan descent) and the two lesbian fempunishers are going full femnazi because Black Panther let the women of the lower castes get raped by a Wakandan Royal Councilman and when she killed her rapist he put her to death knowing she was raped, the guy was guilty, and covered up the rape to keep the royal family looking squeaky clean. Don't get me wrong they let their hatred get the best of them but Black Panther is a shitty king and did everything he despises in western civilization and then some. That and Black Panther is literally becoming a meme because he constantly reminds everyone he's a king in every comic he's in, even the crossover books and events.
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>>94822816
Vibranium

Also, he is one of the few serious characters
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>>94822816
A great suit
One of my favorites
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>Black Panther is supposed to be "token" representation for black people
>lives in an African country where racism works to his benefit, actively promotes isolationism, and is richer, smarter, well above "able bodied", and is all around more privileged than nearly any other character in his respective universe
Nah, he's more of a black power fantasy than an affirmative action member. I really can't imagine any black reader seriously identifying with him in any other meaningful capacity.
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>>94838951
>I really can't imagine any black reader seriously identifying with him in any other meaningful capacity.
Yet black readers are able to identify with rich, white characters like Batman and Ironman.
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>>94837154
>Generation Z is overwhelming conservative
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