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Thought a mid day storytime would be fun so I'm going to post a title many will enjoy.
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I'm only two pages in and this artist is already got my attention.
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I feel ashamed for saying this but I had never read the old Secret Wars all the way through. This page makes me wanna go back and read them.
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I like this kid.
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>>94810404
Bump for you OP. It's a good story.
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As someone who's also a child of divorce, I more than understand the joy in getting lost in another world.
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How about that, a stepfather that isn't a raging douchebag. Nice to see they're all not portrayed as monsters.

>>94810618
I just splurged on a hardcover edition of this story. Amazon price was 30 dollars minimum and i managed to find one for 16 (shipping included) on ebay. Fucking love that site.
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Fucking sweet
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This would scare the shit outta me.
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Fucking rough, kid.
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Shit is officially getting real
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Ha!
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This is artist in on fire. No pun intended.
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Truth be told, I don't know what I would do if I saw the Hulk in front of me.
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>>94810540
Secret Wars is honestly not very good, it's just a 12 issue long toy ad.
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This art is gorgeous and so far the plot isn't that bad. Why have I never seen this storytimed?
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>>94810941
Was Secret Wars II any good?
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>>94810998
Oh god no, it was even worse. Like, I don't even like Secret Wars but I get why it has fans (mostly nostalgia), but you'd be hard pressed to find a Secret Wars II fan who isn't Jim Shooter.
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Huh, wasn't expecting that.
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>>94810998
It's a rehash of Secret Wars 1 except less Toy-ad like. Not worth it.
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I'm not normally big on splash pages but this comic is doing it for me.
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>Would you have stuck around?
I'm actually not sure.
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10%? You can do better than that.
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My mom said I would end up just like my father. When your dad is "less than perfect", those comments can really eat at you.
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I never found stilt man intimidating until this page. I can't imagine that large just stepping over us like we were ants. Also that Schnauzer in the bottom left panel is adorable.
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This comic is really funny to me because the kid's dad had a crush on Jane Foster, and we all know how /co/ feels about that character these days...
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>>94811229
I like to pretend that Blake and Foster lived happily ever after. I have a thing for Miss Marvel and Black Cat (before Slott got a hold of her).
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FUCKING HELL!!! I didn't know Sandman was a straight up sociopath.
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I always knew Electro was more terrifying than he had been portrayed in recent years.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>94811521
No memes during a storytime, newfag.
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What the hell?
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This is horrifying!
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I don't remember this comic being that unsettling
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In one page Millar makes Ultron scarier than his portrayal in Age of Ultron
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Frog Man?
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I think this is the scariest portrayal of Marvel Villains I've seen yet.
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Just when you think things can't get any worse.
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>>94811846
My man.
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>>94811315
Honestly he shouldn't be. he was kind of gradually moving toward the good side during the 80's. Even if Byrne thinks he shouldn't just because Sandman's alter ego was on the FBI most wanted list
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>>94810404
>fun
>millar
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what is this about?
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>>94811986

1985 is Marvel/Millar's red headed step child.
a great book that they tend to forget (almost every other Millar/Marvel series has been reprinted/collected in recent years except for this)
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>>94811888
Yeah, these parts really weirded me out because it's heavily implied, if not outright said, that these are the 616 versions of these characters, and yet Sandman is a murderer and Frog Man dies? What?
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>>94812014
In 1985, Marvel villains invade the "real" world under the command of the "real" world's first mutant.
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>>94812014

comic book villains invade the real world.
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This book has so many more horror moments that I remember.
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>>94812044
On the other hand the only parts that are canonical with this are Millar's FF and Old Man Logan, and by extension Millar's Civil War and maybe some other Marvel stuff, and some of Millar's creator-owned stuff. So you can imagine that it isn't Earth-616 but Earth-Millar Marvel or something
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>>94812111
I consider this part of the Millarverse with it taking place after the Supervillains had taken over the world and rewritten it to suit them.
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THE BLOB EATS PEOPLE!?!?!?! I thought was just the Ultimate Version.
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>>94812159
It is intended to be, Millar had a scene in Kick-Ass connecting it to 1985.
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Oh fuck
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>>94812048
>>94812054
cool, wanted to know if I should read it, thanks!
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I've never heard of The Melter before.
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FUCKING HELL!!!!
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>>94812236
I'm assuming all the villains are acting out of character because they're under orders of that one mutant. Either that or they come from an Earth that's a mix of 616 and Ultimate
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>>94812108
It's a lot like a 80's cult classic, in that you remember it as pretty comfy for some reason but upon revisiting it you realize it's a lot darker than you originally thought. In that regard, Millar stuck the landing.
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>>94811315
>>94811330
>>94811346

Why even storytime if you're going to do this?
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>>94811092
Hell no

one stray piece of tree gets flung your way you're done
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>>94812284
And sure enough: >>94812279
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>>94812242
Fucking sweet
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>>94812284
I think your first prediction was right.

>>94812300
This is a perfect description of this comic.
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>>94812311
You make a good point.
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I love the art change once he entered the Marvel Universe.
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>>94810667
>Dark Phoenix issues were the best
>Still haven't read the saga
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>>94812415
Neither have I. I think I missed out on the golden age of X-Men comics.
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I hope you get hit by a bus, Jarvis.
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This kid has got some stones on him.
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Gotta love the black costume. Always a treat when it's used. If I remember correctly, the cloth version was actually a gift from the black cat and he stopped wearing it because Venom had scared the hell out of MJ.
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=O
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>>94812457
They're not. Outback era is best era
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If I saw Galactus actually appear in this world, I think I'd shit my pants. No shame.
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This is definitely one of the weirder titles Millar has put out. Almost never mentioned when people shit on his other titles
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>>94812691
AW SHIT, THIS IS BAD.
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>>94811209

This comic is hitting me really hard. Although i had a more functional family, the situation was really similar.
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>>94812705
That's because the majority of /co/ is made up of people that only passingly read comics and just parrot the garbage other members spew.

>>94812711
Understatement of the century.

>>94812715
Right there with ya man. I forgot how much heart this story had.
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>>94812705

its also a weird one from Marvel's perspective.
wasn't heavily advertised for being a Millar series, wasn't an event, never reprinted.
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I said it before, but this art is stellar

>>94812754
I'm now glad I managed to pick up a hardcover for fairly cheap. I'm currently compiling the entire Millarverse in HC format so this was a nice get.
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So awesome
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>>94811140
>a storm could do it
Did you see a fucking storm just 5 ago dumbass?
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This page makes me smile.
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I love the sense of scale in this artwork.
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>>94810404
I remember they were saying this was going to be a big multi-media event and then all we got was this
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>>94812823

jealous man.
I read this a couple years back on Marvel Unlimited not knowing what it was, been trying to find a HC or tpb since then with no luck.
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Of course it was the Red Skull
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Originally the intention was that it would be a fumetti comic, where instead of drawn art it'd be photographed. The problem was it got expensive fast and also didn't look that great. I remember there was a preview pic of the photographic version of >>94810896 and it looked less dynamic than this.
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My dad died six years ago. This page is hitting me like a ton of bricks.
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>>94812691
>find a new world to take over
>invite the world eater
?
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This page hurts even more.
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Easily one of the best comic endings I've ever read. And that's it for this thread. I hope this comic at the very least changed a couple perceptions on what Millar can bring to the table. And at the very least, it was a more than decent story and a good way to pass some time. I'll see ya''ll later tonight at the second part of the Ewing Marvel Epic.

>>94813009
I actually think that would be an extremely novel approach to this comic but I adored what we got.
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>>94813085
Good book and surprisingly sweet ending. Thanks for the storytime, OP.
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>>94813085

I kinda think if you mixed the original intention with the final product it'd be cool.

basically a Who Framed Roger Rabbit style comic.
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>>94813055
And that page sets up the connection in Kick-Ass seen here. Notice what book that retailer is talking about.
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>>94812691
Holy fucking shit.

But yeah this is dumb because of >>94813049
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>>94813211
That's actually a pretty neat callback. I really need to read through the Millarverse and gain a better understanding on how they are all connected.
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Someone needs to post this millarverse that keeps getting mentioned. I'm intrigued and have only read two other Millar titles aside from this one. One was Civil War and the other was Nemesis.
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>>94812703
>Outback era is best era
My man
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>>94813711
This
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>>94813711
The guy from this story returns in Millars FF and Old Man Logan (in a minor role). Other than that I don´t really know about his creator owned stuff
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>>94812691
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>>94813711
Clyde from 1985 plays a major role in Millar's Fantastic Four run and becomes the Marquis of Death, it's implied it came about during the supervillain uprising that led to Old Man Logan when the Fantastic Four's villains broke open the facility that Clyde was in.

Meanwhile in the "real" world, it originally was filled with superheroes similar to the Utopian and other superheroes from Jupiter's Circle/Legacy but then the supervillains rose up and destroyed them, then warped time and space so that superheroes never existed (but they somehow still exist with powers) and then secretly rule the world. They implied that they kept things like the second coming of Jesus Christ under wraps, which was why in American Jesus: Chosen, Jodie Christenson's Christ-like abilities were only known within the town.

The final issue of Kick-Ass implied connections to MPH, Nemesis, Kingsman, and Superior. Dave references Nemesis killing cops, the characters from MPH having superspeed, and the villain in Kingsman kidnapping celebrities, and holds the door open for Simon (who becomes Superior).

Meanwhile Supercrooks takes place in the Jupiter's Circle/Jupiter's Legacy world.

Other Millar stuff is said to take place in the same Earth as the Wanted/Kick-Ass/etc Earth but I can't remember if Millar outright confirmed it. He did used to confirm Unfunnies was the same universe as Wanted (which makes sense considering Troy Hicks' and Mr. Rictus' view on the afterlife).
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>>94813711
I'm willing to do it. All I would need is a confirmation for the posting order. From my understanding, the thread would consist of two separate timelines that I would have to cover. Here are the issues I've already collected. Just need to know where to put them.

1. Indie Titles
Chosen/American Jesus
Chrononauts
Empress
HUck
Jupiter's Circle
Jupiter's Legacy
Kickass Volume 1-3
Hitgirl Presquel serires (takes place before vol. 2)
Marvel 1985
MPH
Nemesis
Reborn
Secret Service
Starlight
Supercrooks
Superior
The Unfunnies
Wanted

2. Marvel Titles
Marvel Knights: Spider-Man
>Millar writes a hell of a Peter.
Wolverine
Fantastic Four
Civil War

I also have his issues on The Authority but I'm pretty sure they are completely self-contained in there own universe.
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>>94816434
>Mark Millar writing Mary Jane
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>>94810656
The dad looks like the dude
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>>94817204
I was thinking the same thing.

>>94817071
Have you read Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #1-12?
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>>94817328
No I haven't
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>>94817556
I would highly recommend it. I'll try to see if I can storytime it mid day tomorrow. Then you can see that I'm not completely talking out of my ass when I say Millar can write a ballin Spider-Man. The context of the story is that it takes place after Aunt May has discovered Peter is Spider-Man and before he goes public during Civil War.
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>>94813211

His Morrison influence at it's best.
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>>94815269
>>94816434

Anons, could you redpill me on what is the "Millarverse"? Im intrigued! At the best i've only knew him as the writer who selled out to mainstream media and produce entry level normie stuff. But ater reading through 1985 with you guys and looking at this thread im dying to know what his endgame is, and what is it trying to accomplish.
I guess a question like this may be a stretch to answer, but since this is the best place on the internet to ask, im sincerely asking for help.
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>>94817932
What did Millar do to Grant?
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>>94818127
Millar was Morrison's understudy, till Millar started to hate morrison.
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>>94811793
Oh no

Doctor Conner's class
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>>94818127
Millar actually got a lot of his experiencing directly working under Grant when Grant was getting popular. You can almost think of Millar as his apprentice and supposedly, Millar "stole" the ending for Superman Red Son although we're never going to get the whole picture. I also think MOrrison is really jealous that Millar knows how to market his works to studios but that's just conjecture. It had been stated that Millar's comics are storyboards rather than comics but I think that's selling them a bit short. I can see the comparison though. Many of Millar's scripts do not go crazy on the panel layouts and he tends to pick the most concise dialog he can while still maintaining consistent characterization. Take Nemesis for example, it's a four page action thrill ride where very little is actually accomplished, but it's structured in a way that the visuals amplify the book to the 9nth degree and it's set up in such a way that even the most comic illiterate of audiences could comprehend it. His widescreen approach to comics (horizontal panels stacked on one another) may have been considered simple but they got the job done.
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>>94818279
I know all about their history, I just could never find out what Millar did to make Grant want to run him with his car.
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>>94818127
>>94818279

Millar as Morrison's protegé, and they eventually cut relations. They released some stuff written by the two, more famously Aztek and Flash (great comics btw).
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This was a good read. Thanks OP.
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>>94813711
I saved this from a previous thread.
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>>94820816
It's too bad Millar is so edgy, this seems interesting
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>>94817071
Honestly, the only character he kind of mangles is Electro with a cheap gay joke.
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>>94821954
Apparently OP is working on a grand Millarverse and plans to start tomorrow or sometime later . OP has his work cut out for him but if he can deliver i'd be happy to hang around. There are a lot of shit titles without a question but a lot of good as well
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I fucking love this

I didn't even known this existed

So have a bump OP
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>>94818309
It's never been specified but it had to do with something that Millar was saying in the Scottish press at the time combined with Morrison kind of feeling their collaborations were getting one-sided, all of which led up to an alleged fight between them in 2002 at a Wildstorm party.

>>94818307
>and supposedly, Millar "stole" the ending for Superman Red Son

Morrison never said Millar stole the ending, he just said that it was a Superman idea he liked that he suggested to Millar. And he got the idea from Busiek's Samaritan (which was something Millar pointed out, though probably to diminish the jab). Millar then pointed out that they did share ideas through phone conversations and Millar was the one who suggested that Ultraman fry a cat in the conclusion of JLA: Earth 2.
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>>94820816
>>94813711
By the way, keep in mind this isn't exactly a perfect matchup; for example in Superior the President is Obama while in Nemesis it was a generic President. In fact, Millar actually said in an issue of Wizard that he planned to have Obama be the President in Nemesis but also killed off by Nemesis in the first issue. But then Marvel told him they'd get in trouble with the Secret Service if they had gone through with it so Millar changed it to a generic President instead. And in some undetermined time in Chosen Jodie Christenson becomes the President.
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>>94818064
it's the best creator owned comic universe ever, better than Astro City
Millar might not be the deepest storyteller but he's the most entertaining
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>>94816434
I've read every Millar story besides his Swamp Thing and the only one that is actually bad is the Unfunnies, but I didn't enjoy Chrononauts or Supercrooks because they kinda wasted the respective artists talents, but Yu and Murphy are consistently bringing out the worst tendencies of their writers
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>>94811092
Jugg + Hulk can produce bomb like impacts on each other and the environment.

Sticking around would mean your ears would be pressure blasted into deafness and you could accidentally or intentionally be killed by half of the forces at play (jugg) and accidentally be killed by the other half (banner)
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>>94811697
>Ultron

This town has shit luck. Any villain above street tier is going to murder enough people to bring tragedy for years.
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>>94826415
That sounds unpleasant. Nice description
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This is honestly my favorite Millar story and I wish that he would do more stories like this.
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>>94810569
>>94810584
>every day on /co/
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>>94810998
>>94810941
Secret Wars isn't the best story ever but it's very fun. If your an X-men fan it might suck to see them taken down a peg, but it has very good moments for a lot of characters, Spider-man get some really good fight scenes, the Doctor Doom subplot is fun and pays off, the story isn't the best thing ever but if your young it can be a really good entry point into the rest of Marvel since you get such a variety of Characters .
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Thanks.
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>>94825664
This still works because nemesis Takes place before superior so the difference in presidents works out
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>>94820816
I think that list at the bottom is the best we're gonna get without some very careful sectioning of stories and at that point would just result in a mess
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Cough
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>>94831719
I know. I'm pretty choked up about the ending to 1985 as well
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Someone Post more millar
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I was a Marvel zombie in 1985. This isn't a real sincere account of the time. And don't forget that the magical retard at the center of this story went on to become Doom's Master because the same writer couldn't resist ruining Doom with his own donut steel.

Garbage wrapped in a sheen of nostalgia. And don't kid yourself for a moment that the drastic shift between shit like Trouble, Nemesis and the Unfunnies and Jupiter's Circle, Red Son and Superior doesn't mean ghost writers doing the latter.

Millar's either paying or blackmailing someone to write the better stuff under his own name, or a little of both. There are two writers he's worked with who at their best demonstrate the same degree of interest in closure and metafiction and on a good day impersonate each other capably. One's named Grant and the other's another writer named Mark. The latter refuses to reply on twitter when asked if he's ghostwritten for Millar, and he usually replies to most questions.

Millar's a scumbag who clawed his way into the industry on Morrison's back and has taken far more than he's contributed. He just has the advantage of being one scumbag comic book writer among a generation of same (Bendis, Spencer, Hopeless, Ennis) and knows as long as he shits out movie ideas he'll keep his family and his ego fed.
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>>94833841
someone storytime Reborn or MPH
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>>94834925
Give me 15-20 minutes and I'll storytime MPH
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Soooo do this and Kick-Ass take place in an alternate universe where DC doesn't exist?
I mean, I know the real reason they never bring them up in either comic, but it's still weird since I'm pretty sure just namedropping their characters isn't illegal (Marvel's done it plenty of times).
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Fuck. Slight issue. I won't be able to post all of MPH without having to start a new thread and I'm already going to storytime Ewing later so I REALLY don't wanna have to make another one. I do plan on eventually storytiming The Millarverse in its entirerty (Marvel Issues and all). Would it be cool if I storytimed Chosen instead?

>>94835174
I think it's more of Millar not wanting to open that can of worms. DC exists, he's just gonna avoid it.
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I'd also be cool storytiming some of Millar's Superman Adventures. That series is the fucking bomb
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>>94835281
its an interesting read for sure
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>>94835300
how about his Adventures of Superman or Action Comics with Immonen??
they're RARE
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>>94835361
I'll track them down as quickly as I can. They probably won't be in this thread but when I do the Millarverse, I'll be sure to include them. Going
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>>94835361
Do you mind providing the exact issue numbers? I checked a few sources and there a few inconsistencies so I wanna make sure I grab the right ones.
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Never came across this before - thanks for the storytime OP!
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>>94835743
You are very welcome.
You're awesome for checking this.
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I actually remembered the quadratic formula from high school. Never used it once since then but I remember it.
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Understatement of the century.
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this is definitely a unique book
thanks
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>>94836042
My pleasure. I'm just glad other people get exposed to some of Millar's more unique works that shows he can write more than needless edge
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That was a terrible comparison
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I had a stash like that until my parent's found it when they took all the stuff out of my desk to replace it with a new one. They never brought it up but still, if I have kids I ain't gonna even think about going through their stuff unless I genuinely felt there was something wrong.
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>>94812264

Iron Man villain. Old.
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>>94812653

WENDIGO
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Well this situation just escalatedbvgfcdttddd
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>>94835174
They do make references to DC. Like for instance in Kick-Ass 3, Kick-Ass makes a reference to Batman: Year One.
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>>94836481
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=O
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>>94811950
>>94811962
>The Nam cameo
very nice
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST MILLAR!!!! ALso this page was edited in the TPB version to be less "Millary".
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I don't even know what to make of this ending. All I know is that I enjoyed this story and want Millar to get off his ass and finish the American Jesus storyline.
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>>94837072
These threads ar slowly making me crazy consider Millar. Key word is slowly >>94837072
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>>94812691
Oh yes
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>>94811613
The fuck is this shit?
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>>94834060

Why are you lying to these children.
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>>94810404
>this cover
>almost entirely x-men
>fantastic four
>spider-man front and center

how the times have changed.
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>>94837072
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>>94813085
All the horrific murder aside, I rather liked it.
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>>94837058
So is he going to help Jesus fight Satan, or was the "opposite sides" thing supposed to be about how he thought that *he* was Jesus?
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