What are the true cultural differences when it comes to animation?

>>94782260
>Europe doesn't have old school Wallace and Gromit, Thomas the tank engine, Postman Pat, or Fireman Sam
Explain yourself OP.

>>94782307
There's nothing memorable there really.

>>94782260
Enjoy your ban

>>94782393
>There's nothing memorable there really.
>Wallace and Gromit

Better than half the crap on that picture.

>>94782260
>Europe only has Mia and Me as a representation of italian animation
off yourself kindly

>>94782260
Its all made in Korea anyway

>>94782711
Them chinks know how to animate.

>>94782260
>Nothing but entry level trash in Japan
At least throw in so Kaiba or Ping Pong in there to mix things up.

>>94782260
None really. It's either animation done internally (Disney, Aardman), or outsourced to South Korea.

>>94782871
You think OP even knows what those are? You overestimate him

>>94782260
For a second there I thought the rows were meant to signify something... like, what's the key element connecting Gravity Falls, Asterix & Obelix and Elfen Lied?

>>94783058
What do Family Guy and K-On have in common?

>>94783068
They're terrible? I assume the Europe thing is too.
I'm European and I don't recognize it at all

>>94783321
It's italian, it's called Mia And Me, made by Rainbow (same people responsible for Winx and other stuff), it mixes animation with live action and... it's forgettable, I guess. The animation parts are the better ones, while the live action is insufferable.

>>94783362
Winx I would have at least recognized. This is apparently on Nickelodeon where I live but I've never seen it or heard of it

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>>94782260
>Country
>Continent
>Country

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>>94783409
Yeah I have no idea why the OP picked that over stuff like Winx or Monster Allergy if he wanted recognizable stuff... or good italian animated movies like L'Arte Della Felicità

>>94782260
>animation
Anon, why did you use asterix and tintin comic than?

>>94782601
>>94782393
What? Here in europe it did a big footstep. It produced Shaun the sheep which is the mickey mouse of european kids entertainment. Just without the evil corporation and in its infancy years.

>>94783446
Guess he means cultural animation industries.

>>94783746
>shaun the sheep
Garbage. What are you, twelve?

The whole Europe line needs to be broken up into Franco-Belgian, Italian, British and German+. To many differences between these four groups to be grouped together.

Europe and Japan are much more competent with animation in current days.

>>94782307
>All those shows are British

>>94783835
This, they have basically nothing in common, OP is a pleb

>>94783409
>>94783467
I wasn't aware Winx was European.

>>94783963
No, anon, Europe is a big fucking continent, you don't say "european", you say "italian"

>>94783467
Is Roberto Saviano the guy who wrote Gomorrah?

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>Subtle nazi undertones in Tabaluga
How did Germans got away with this?

>>94784000
Never forget about that past and always feel guilty.

>>94783989
Yup

>>94782260
Well, for one, the animation industry in Europe is fucking DEAD.

Might as well just be France and Belgium over there.

It's kinda sad, actually.

>>94783446
>Continent
That flag is the EU, which is Europe as much as the USA are the continent of America.
The EU is a supranational body of governance developing increasingly state-like features, so it is actually kinda fair to cover the European animation efforts under this category.

>>94784029
Well then picked up. i mean I know its just a preface but still

>>94784043
That's also the flag of the continent as well, actually. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe)

I believe one big problem in Europe is that cartoons are STILL being viewed as infantile media for kids, which eliminates the possibility of broader and more creative works. The European industry is simply boring.

>>94784043
The EU doesn't have one connected television market thought. You have multiple markets with multiple different channels.

>>94784097
>STILL being viewed as infantile media for kids
Same goes for the US.

The problem in Europe is that the smaller states just can't afford it. If Lithuania or whatever released a show it would probably be sub-par compared to France, or the US and reach a much smaller audience.

As for Germany, I guess they're just autistic.
(or just don't have a long enough tradition of animation)

>>94784036
I was gonna say that's bullshit, but can't really think of any good recent Euro comics or cartoons that aren't French or Belgian.

>>94784097
I'd rather point to the market choices.
European TV stations can either:
-Dedicate vast funding to create and maintain animation studios in an ever changing media economy
-Buy foreign cartoons and anime, hire translators and dub actors
With the latter choice being usually the most secure option on the table.

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>>94784062
May I recommend Gatta Cenerentola as well? Well, technically it's not out yet so I'm not certain if it'll get an english dub or not, but it's by the same people who made L'Arte Della Felicità and the trailer looks fairly promising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XmSZuITeM0

>>94784174
Germany has no tradition of animation to speak of.
We have been importing everything for decades and the only stuff written here is animated elsewhere for cheap.
Because nobody here wants to take any financial risk in media.
All productions are either safe bets or lowest-denominator crowd pleasers.
In part this is due to TV dying a slow death, in part it's what makes it die in the first place.
TV in Germany is now one half aimed at old people by public broadcasting and the other half is aimed at morons who are easy to please and have absolutely no standards.
The juicy working upper-middle-class and young people above 15 are pretty much out of the medium. They might have a trip to the cinema, but they're mostly on netflix or online.

>>94784535
Yeah, you basically described most of Europe there. It'll be interesting to see what the media landscape will look like without TV.

>>94784535
No wonder all German guests at the hotel I work at speak English with a vaguely American accent.

>>94784177
>can't really think of any good recent Euro comics or cartoons that aren't French or Belgian
That's 'cause they don't translate it, not because it's not there

>>94784597
We sure as hell don't watch much BBC.
More arte, actually.

>>94784247
Looks like a stylized vidya cutscene. Still might be good

>>94784629
That's what I thought as well, it kinda also reminds me of Gorillaz for some reason.
Here's a better trailer though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SApSVOLeGU

>>94784597
They teach us British English, but my teacher gave me a lot of shit for using American words all the time, because I mostly consume American media.

t. not German

>>94784673
Huh. That looks nice.

>>94782260
japan is weaboo shit

>>94784732
t. a man who never saw Samurai Gourmet

>>94784612
Can"t think of anything good Dutch or German and I speak those

>>94784874
Well too bad for your country then, but don't speak for all of us

>>94784732
You sound like a 10 year old.

Literally. This is the sort of shit I would've said when I was 10.

>>94784883
When did I speak for all of us Mr. Noexamples?

>>94784717
Why del, Anon.

>>94784149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Broadcasting_Union
And it's far more than a symbolic organization, it organizes the Eurovision Song Contest for one thing.

>>94782307
Add Shaun the Sheep, Spirou and Fantasio, and Wakfu to Europe.
Europe may unironically be the saviour of animations, now that the US railroaded itself between three networks and Japan being caught up in moe hell, which prevents them from producing anything decent for the next decade.

Heck I wish Eastern Europe animations makes a comeback.

>>94784000
>Penguins and Polar Bears sharing a habitat

>>94785058
>wakfu
>savior of animations
keep jerking off kid

>>94785077
They are commanded by a snowman fighting a dragon. Don't ask too many questions.

>>94782260
I thought the ponies were animated in Canada and before that, the Philippines.

>>94785147
About that, I wonder why the thread hasn't been pruned yet

>>94782307
>>94785058
And Pingu.

>>94785116
Sounds kinda awesome to be honest.
But knowing Germany, where cartoons and video games are considered stuff exclusively for children between 6 and 12, any potential it has is watered down and nothing is coming from it.

>>94785086
Enjoy you CalArts, fag

>>94784097
>>94784174
>>94785181
Cartoons are for kids. There's a reason we hide our identities here on /co/.

>>94785221
Yeah, that's because anonfagging is encouraged here.

>>94785243
>anonfagging
What the fuck does that even mean? We're all anons here...

>>94785181
Oh, you better believe it's trite shit produced by committee.
Also based on a rock opera grown out of a concept album later turned into a children's book that had its corpse flayed by TV execs so any meaning that might have been there at some point is lost in a 30-year game of telephone.

>>94785291
http://i.imgur.com/hDGV2HX.png

>>94785243
Why are you here then?
Go back to tumblr or reddit,

>>94783446
EU isn't a continent

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>>94785166
Man, FUCK Pingu!

>>94785181
I kinda hope Super RTL gets really strong in the next two years and changes something.
They now got the rights to show CN stuff. HTTYD gets new episodes and that one always gave them ridiculous ratings. Zak Storm also might do incredibly well considering the premise and they also get to show Trollhunters which is supposed to be pretty good and critically acclaimed.

For 2018/19, they can already safely say that they get to air King Julien:Exiled and DC Superhero Girls which can act as a gateway for the other DC IPs. Also, there is a legit chance they might get to show Voltron and Villianous.

These guys really have the potential to nuke the Age ghetto in Germany in the next two years if they play thier cards straight.

>>94784890
a defense a 10 year would use

>>94785592
Potential yes, but I think they are not even trying.
Tells a lot, when a common joke is "My girlfriend is so young, she thinks I'm toggo"

>>94783446
>Country
>Union
>Country

>>94785154
Despite their best efforts, sometimes discussions about cartoons manage to slip through the cracks here on the Politics and Live Action Movies board.

>>94784177
I used to read all the diverse 70's and 80's eurocomics from all over the continent, there was always a ton of stuff on TV too back in the 90's. I want to go back to that level of comfyness again

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>>94786122

>>94786122
>italy's flag has orange instead of red
Crawl into a hole and die, cunt

>>94786162
That is the only one you recognise as wrong?

>>94786242
ya cuz it's my flag

>>94786162
you missed the joke son, thas ireland, hense the cunt

>>94786282
What about Belgium, Netherlands, Malta and Austria?
The joke is that it's fucking obvious they are misidentified.

>>94786329
>>94786346
Look I don't know flags that well

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>>94786419

>>94782260
I just want to say that Sally Bollywood is a guilty pleasure of mine, and I'm surprised at how good the English dub is despite it obviously being done in someone's home, instead of at an official recording studio, and I wish we could get more episodes of it.

>>94786282
>>94786282
>>94786419
How can you grow up in Europe and not know at LEAST the difference between France and Netherlands

>>94783746
>tintin comic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin_(TV_series)

This reminds me...
Why does Britain barely have a cartoon industry?
While America and Japan are much bigger than us, it can't be because we don't have the economy to support it, because CANADA is more relevant to cartoons than we are.

>>94782260

Can you take Bob the Builder of the E :3 UK is not part of EU

>>94788125
the children just watch top gear in England

>>94788165
It's still in Europe.

>>94788125
>because CANADA is more relevant to cartoons than we are
Not really, Canadian cartoons are far more likely to be lost media for a reason.

>USA
animals
>EU
animals
>Japan
no animals

>>94782260
>>94782260
You need to put atleast the 90s version of SupermanTAS up there if you're going to use DBZ for Japan.

>>94789337
Some of the most popular children's animation in japan has animal characters. OP is just retarded and spent like 5 seconds on europe and japan

>>94782711
Anime is not made in Korea.

>>94782928
There is a very long list of cultural differences between Japan and the West, and virtually everything about their animations are significantly different as well.

>>94784732
Weeaboo means wannabe Japanese. So Japan is wannabe Japanese? Then who are the real Japanese? At least try to think before you post.

>>94790064
There are animal characters but they are rare compared to Western animation.

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>>94782260
>tfw africa/ south america/middle east will never end up on charts like these

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>no monkey dust under Europe

https://youtu.be/XCywGhHQMEw

>>94783806
still its sucessful and for under twelve kids very good with lots of good craftwork in it.
What are you? an entitled autistic manchild?

>>94790226
>they are rare
>Fucking Pokémon, Digimon, Doraemon, Hello Kitty, and the dozens upon dozens of cute animal mascots in anime
>rare
Nigga, what?

>>94792535
Pokemon doesn't count because the animals aren't anthropomorphized

>>94792535
Yes, they are rare compared to Western animation. I believe that's what already said. Though even if we didn't compare against Western animation, they are still rare.

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>>94782260
>no Hanna Barbera shows AT ALL in America
>no Doraemon, Kinnikuman, or Time Bokan in Japan

>>94782579
how could anon get banned for this you jackass

>>94785574
no FUCK YOU for not liking Pingu

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>>94783446
What do you think the Globalist end game is