Sunday Superman Thread

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>>94772228

A few hours early I know, but along with the usual, I want to shake things up a little. A game of sorts. Let's see who can find the best combo of image related and a suitable background. Moving, badass, funny, whatever.

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>>94772303

An example from another thread I just threw together. Let's have some fun!

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Superman is my favorite hero ever.

Whenever i feel bad about something or feel unmotivated, i think about what Superman would say to me.

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>>94773806

>Lone manly tear.
Every time.

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Is it weird to want to be him?

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I am unironically going to wear my new Superman-shield tshirt to opening night of Justice League, and feel amazing doing so.

>>94773806

Fuck dude

>>94774670
>is it weird to want to be the greatest fictional character ever created?

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Always.

>>94776033
I can't bring myself to have any hope for Justice League after MoS and BvS, but I'm glad you still can.

>>94774670
I dunno, is it weird i'm a dude who wants to be held by him?

>>94777232

I'm sorry anon. I wish you could. I've generally enjoyed the DCEU and credit Man of Steel for actually getting me to look past that whole 'boring flying brick' normie/Batfag view of Superman and actually read the stories. My favorites so far is First Thunder. I've been a DC fan for nearly two decades, never gave Supes a fair shake, and he's quickly become one of my favorites.

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>>94777516
(Not him) I get what you're saying but that's akin to thinking

>gee getting shot in the dick has really made me appreciate guns as a sport

As someone who has been reading Superman since COIE first hit shelves, I am over the moon happy that the MoS and BvS """""""""""films"""""""""" have garnered new readers for the actual books, though. So I guess it's not all bad.

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You're at the club and this guy slaps your girlfriends ass

What do you do /co/?

>>94777732

I guess I'm just one of the percentage that liked the interpretation. I will say I look forwards to them making him more akin to post-Crisis/Superdad if the leaks are true, but he is close enough for me to enjoy him anyway.

I think you really had to have a fixation on an exact portrayal for MoS to be 'not muh'. I mean it makes sense, as it's why Superdad is back. Batman can and has been reinvented. Superman is... well... Superman. COIE created a renfition that has made fans accept no substitutes as far as I can see.

>>94777904

Tell the nearest staff member he's going to need a mop, and start looking for a new girlfriend?

>>94777904
What girlfriend?

If the Thought Robot slapped my girlfriend on the ass, she'd either be erased from existence or become the ultimate archetype for all girlfriends.

>>94777910
>>94777732

https://youtu.be/unRWrdDKfxU

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>>94778167

Why would you actively want to make somone enjoy something they like less? Is it really that important everyone dislikes the DCEU as much as its detractors? It it worth removing a joy, of any quantity, from someones life?

C'mon Anon, you are better than that.

>>94778254
>settle for mediocrity rather than hurt someones feels

No thanks.

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Picked this issue up a few days ago, mainly for the cover. Hanging on my wall now.

What are some of your favorite covers?

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>>94778350
Oh it also sits next to this one, which was used for issue 675. Was so happy to find it.

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>>94778350
Jimenez's variants have been on a streak of high quality and rememberable concepts.

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>>94778535
I missed that one. Really wanted it too.

Hopefully I'll find it for sale online at some point.

>>94776033
Idk why but I love this pic

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>>94778315
now who could be behind this post?

>>94778315

Except, trying to align someones views with you, and make them LESS happy with something, especially someone you don't even know, on such an unimportant subject, says more about you than it does the DCEU.

Are you sure you wouldn't be more at home in a Lex Luthor thread? You monster?

>>94776033
I'm going in with zero expectations, so I'll be happy either way.

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>>94778350
All the American Alien covers are fantastic.

>>94778681

Because another little kid is completely in love with Superman. It's a shame the DCEU rustles so many older fans jimmies, as it's still winning those kids hearts, and you still see plenty of Superman costumes at halloween.

Hell, I saw three DC shirts in a local store. It was Superman, a gothic Batman skull, and Joker. I think a lot of people are worried the DCEU will 'change' Superman. But I don't think that's likely.

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>>94778845
My biggest and really only issue is that because of how widely viewed films are, this becomes the standard view of the character throughout the general populous.

When asking a random person around the world to describe superman, odds are you're gonna get the snyder version to some degree....and that's the saddest damn thing in the world.

There's nothing wrong with people developing their own versions of a character, but claiming it to be the OG and dismissing everything to come beforehand is wrong.

>>94779080
This desu. They want all the "impactful" and iconic moments, without everything that builds up towards making those moments what they are in the first place.

>oh no supermans dead
>isn't this such a world changing event?

No. It's not because there is no weight behind it.

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Love this moment.

>>94774670
Only if it's weird for me to want it too.

>>94779080

I can understand that. It's how it's worked out for Marvel at least, as the exposure difference is so high. Chin up though bro, they might get him 'right' yet, and MoS and BvS just end up a forgotten blip.

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>>94779487

>>94777232
It's not MoS and BvS that make me nervous. It's Avengers and Age of Ultron. I thought Zack Snyder absolutely delivered with his films, both visually and narratively, what I'd like to see in a modern Superman story. But while Avengers is ok, AoU really makes me doubt Whedon do right by the film with his reshoots.

>>94779866

I think the best way to look at is that if you like the DCEU as is, the film is mostly Snyder and plotted, so there is limited damage Whedon can do, and if you dislike the DCEU, then Whedon can slap a whole lotta grease on the lens to mask the ugliness.

I'd settle for keeping the tone consistant with the DCEU so far, but making Superman lighter and more upbeat (less burdoned perhaps), and I suspect (even without the leaks) Whedon will do that. Keeping the Snyder tone but having a brighter Superman would really make the latter stand out all the more.

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>>94779939

To add, I'm worried that if Whedon gets his own movies (other than Batgirl, whivh is going to be hilarious as she is made blandly competant, allowed to face no real hardship or suffer after the whole Black 'Monster' Widow fiasco) he will try and make the DCEU too bright. As much as I love Superman, the DCEU is is a pretty grim place at times.

Gotham as a whole, Professor Zoom and his relationship to Barry, a literal hell dimension every looming, the Vertigo-verse in the background unseen, Arthur's son and Black Manta, Jason and his fate, ect. Even Superman himself has gone through some shit.

>>94779267
What happened after this?

>>94780003
Darkseid got his shit pushed in, realized

>I can't win this

Then remembered he had Kryptonite in his back pocket

>>94780022

Kryptonite was a mistake. It's become such a common thing, that all the villains are so knowledgable about, that Superman might as well just stay home (*shrug* "C'mon Bruce, you know as well as I do that they are going to pull out a certain green rock, and then I'm dead weight) or wear that lead-lined battlesuit from the Smallville S11 comic as his main costume.

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Stand aside, nerds.

>>94778535
Issue?

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>>94780316
I kinda wish Krypto stuck with the wolf look from nu52

>>94780501
Superman Rebirth #25

>>94780176
Why did Superman never ask Bruce or Steel or some actually competent scientist to develop a Kryptonite-resistant suit with a helmet that automatically pops on when he's about to get KRYPTONITED?

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>>94778535
Now it's perfect

>>94780544

Or some bullshit shield that does it, and the artist only has to draw some minor visual effect so they don't have to do a redesign.


That said, the answer is clearly because then they would have to write clever rather than relying on an overused plot device.

>>94780567

Agreed. Nice job.

>>94780520

what happened to super doggo?

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>>94780567
Fuck that's nice.

I'm still in the camp of hopeful people that after the events of Doomsday Clock, supes will get the undies back.

>>94780610

Nah bro, it would be amazing, but it's as much movie synergy as it is a design decision. Only Batman in that fabulous purple cape is exempt of the trinity.

>>94780603
Still around. Helped out during the Zod and co battle in Superman like 3 or 4 issues back. He's back to looking like normal cute doggo. But I would like a Husky Krypto.

>>94780610
Didn't Rich have an article not too long ago saying they might be back from Action #1000? Hope it's true.

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>>94780627
>Action #1000

Shit that's probably gonna be next year. Hype as fuck.

Better be a 100 page special. 1000 in a perfect world, but that's a bit overzealous.

Bet ya any money it'll be a reprint of action #1 for the cover.

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Any good Superman reactions images that you guys might wanna share?

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>>94780531
Thanks anon

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>>94780022
>Darkseid got his shit pushed in,
What issue was this?

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really love this moment.

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>>94781055
Literally every time they've ever fought in an even fight.

Supes always shits all over Darkseid.

You've been brainwashed by /r/whowouldwin. A cancerous place you should return to.

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>>94781244

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How can someone with x-ray vision be so polite?

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>>94781329
do you think he looks at Lois? Hell maybe she gets off on knowing he is.

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>>94781253
Go back to OBD faggot, Darkseid shits on Superman anytime he get's serious, just take OWAW event as an example. And that was just his avatar.

>>94781368
When I'm at home alone, I also put on fancy lingerie and pose for an imaginary photo shoot. It's the little touches that keep DC's modern mythology of gods and monsters grounded.

>>94780980
kek

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>>94781477
Look at every fight they've had. It's supermans way by a factor of 4 or 5 to 1. Including the times Darkseid had to resort to Kryptonite.

We had a thread talking about it a while back and why plebs like you get hard over out of context panels. Go back to your shitty versus sub.

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>>94781477
> just his avatar
hmmm

>>94781477
>Darkseid shits on Superman anytime he get's serious

It's literally the reverse. How new are you to comics? Have you got passed the wiki reading stage yet?

>>94781477
Go to bed Uxas.

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So Brainiac > Darkseid?

>>94781635
post the rest of it, where Supes beats the crap out of him.

Love the ending scene on earth

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Supes never beats the crap out of him, he wins by taking advantage of Brainiac's really weird one-arc weakness, not by overpowering him. Every attempt at the latter ends in failure. If nothing else, the punch-catch scene should make it really clear which one is physically stronger.

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>>94781649
>only posting half the argument
bet you're a lefty

Clark completely controls the fight in the second half. Posting out of context and only in parts.

Should be punishable by death.

>>94781764
>Clark completely controls the fight in the second half.
I've read that arc. There's no "second half" of the fight. There's literally that one-panel punch, then Superman knocks him out of the ship after using his freeze-breath. That's it.

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>>94781764
dammit. Meant for

>>94781702

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>>94776033

God bless, anon.

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>>94781778
freeze breath = punched in the face, heat visioned, stomped in the mud AND freeze breathed

Stop lying, mate.

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>>94781792
>also
>punch-catch
>implying the character well renowned for almost always holding back was going all out

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>>94781804

>>94779080
Opposed to when people thought Superman was a boring boyscout with too much powers and far too unrelatable due to how perfect and invulnerable he was?

Get off your high horse.

>>94781792
I said "after that one-panel punch." Because after that it was literally just freeze-breath + knocked out of the ship. And after being knocked out of his ship Brainiac is seemingly disabled and unable to fight back . And the reason he did that at all was because attempting to fistfight Brainiac just got him overpowered and his hand crushed.

At no point did Superman overpower Brainiac. Every physical clash they had was extremely lopsided in Brainiac's favor from their initial confrontation to the fist-catch scene.

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>>94781813

>>94781804
>has been physically knocked out by Brainiac twice in this arc already
>his planet is about to be destroyed
>just saw the extent of Brainiac's atrocities and swore to avenger the trillions he's killed
>charges at Brainiac in a rage and punches him
>except lol he's not actually doing that he's still fucking around
>STILL apparently holding back even as his hand is being fucking crushed to the point it's bleeding (apparently it's fake blood and he thought it'd be hilarious to pretend to have difficulty)

superfags are literally the worst. they don't give a shit about consistent characterization or blindingly obvious story beats as long as it lets them pretend their hero has infinite power.

>>94781821
>Because after that it was literally just freeze-breath
>literally

That word doesn't mean what you seem to think it does.

Can you literally not see the heat vision to the face, kick in the back and the charge through ship wall?

Five entirely different attacks one after another with no fight back seems pretty overpowered to me, friendo.

>>94778726
Helping them find better shit and learning the difference will give them a fuller more complete experience making them happier in the long run than letting them suck in nothing but garbage their whole lives

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Ya'll need to shut up.

>>94778167
https://youtu.be/38Cy_Qlh7VM

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>>94781856
>That word doesn't mean what you seem to think it does.
Way to cut off the second half of the statement. I consider the kick to be a part of just knocking him out of the ship.
>Five entirely different attacks one after another with no fight back seems pretty overpowered to me
Then you're wrong, because spraying Brainiac with heat vision, freeze breath, and finally knocking him out of the ship with flight has nothing to do with being "overpowered." Superman had managed to land several consecutive attacks on Brainiac already without immediate retaliation earlier. It didn't matter because his blows did shit (Brainiac explicitly said that his physical blows were "nothing") and Brainiac was always able to easily recover and regain control because of his blatantly superior physical strength. The difference this time is that Brainiac was totally disabled by being knocked into the swamp and so wasn't able to retaliate after that series.

It's almost like Superman isn't a fucking idiot and the scene was meant to show him being clever in the face of a superior foe that the author established in the exact same scene as being capable of overpowering Superman in a straight physical brawl.

[pic related from New Krypton again shows that Brainiac is strong as fuck]

>>94781925
>[pic related from New Krypton again shows that Brainiac is strong as fuck]

Not that guy you're having a pissing match with, but you're straight up doing what he said about "out of context panels".

I agree with you overall, but for fucks sake, hypocrisy I name thee. Did it just go over your head?

>>94781943
>but you're straight up doing what he said about "out of context panels".
There's no real context to this one panel though. There's not even a real fight, Brainiac just finds Superman and decks him, then they get interrupted. Later in the arc Superman tackles Brainiac from behind as he seems to be overpowering Zod, but again they get interrupted before they can have a proper brawl.

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>>94781956
Okay. But then it means literally nothing.

Everyone and their fucking mother can knock Superman backwards with an unexpected punch. He weighs what 100-110 kg?

>>94781974
I was referring more to the blood. That's not really something you can dismiss since it shows his body being physically damaged.

>>94782008
>>94781987
>Why is Superman so angsty and brooding

>>94779997
DC ought to do a solo series based on the exploits of fleischer superman in the same way they did one for batman 66

>>94782201
Sign me up. Sounds great

>>94781839
>MoS audience score 3.9/5 on 444,000 votes
>Superman(1978) audience score 3.5/5 on 285,000 votes
But yeah critics hate Zack ever since 300

>>94779866
Even as someone who disliked MoS and BvS and generally likes the Marvel films, I agree that Justice League becoming like Age of Ultron would be godawful. I don't want Clark to be grim and brooding, but I also don't want him to be AoU Steve.

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>set this as my wallpaper
>monitor is over 2m wide
>tab to desktop at 4am

No man can be prepared for that.

>>94780520
"AH! AH! SPACE! Oh wait Master's here; all is well."

>>94777910
Why should fans settle for a substitute they like less?
A good reinvention might still be able to stick, Batman's reinventions were simply better than Superman

>>94782561
>Audiences (of 587,451) consider Man of Steel 7.1
>Audiences (of 135,052) consider S:TM a 7.3
*shrugs*

>>94782810
Language!

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>>94781813
>people thought Superman was a boring boyscout with too much powers and far too unrelatable due to how perfect and invulnerable he was
Casuals have always thought that and always will, and the reason is simple: in the hands of a weak writer, that's exactly what he is.

But the same is true of any hero. In the hands of a weak writer, Batman's a moody emo bitch who's far too unrelatable due to how perfect his fighting and prep-work are. In the hands of a weak writer, Spider-Man is a whiny quip machine whose sole purpose in life is to be shit on by the universe.

Your argument has no weight.

>>94782838
No reinvention ever sticks permanently, that's the thing

Bronze Age isn't the same as Byrne Age, and Post-Death of Superman isn't the same as Secret Origins, etc etc

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>>94781850
>superfags are literally the worst
Good thing you're not in a Superman thread, right?

>>94782827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJh47LybCkU

>>94781813
>Opposed to when people thought Superman was a boring boyscout with too much powers and far too unrelatable due to how perfect and invulnerable he was?
People still think that, genius. MoS did not to a damn thing to alleviate that burden.

That's because that's only a myth Superman haters believe, while actual casuals world wide just like Superman

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>>94781813
>>94783051
>>94783092
to the left and right of Mount Stupid are people who love Superman. On top are people who see him as "a boring boyscout with too much powers and far too unrelatable"

>>94781850
He has been knocked out by a supernova not Brainiac

>>94781983
He has a healing factor so what if he is damaged

>>94781400
Love Stan Lee at the bottom right.

>>94783468
>collar
Ruined

>>94783065
Sure, but the idea with reinventions is to get more people to like the character not less.
If that didn't work, the fault is not with the people, but with the reinvention

>>94776033
>>94777516

Agreed >>94777232 - I definitely have higher expectations but I still suspect I'll be disappointed until Aquaman comes out.

There are things to credit in MoS, but key parts of the first two acts and nearly the entirety of the final act just mar any of those for me. But at least I could bring myself to rewatch MoS before BvS came out. I have the extended edition and all I did with it was fast forward it to see if there was really anything substantially different that wasn't simply additional action, language or nudity and my finger never left that FFWD arrow till the end credits.

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>>94778350

>>94774655
Come on, batman would thank him he's pretty head strong but he doesn't have a fragile ego like this

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>>94778350
>>94778816

A few of Ryan Sook's were really on point and I'm generally in favor of anything, but the first one, with the baby and the wires, was just not what was on my mind.

I also wasn't a fan of either the issue two main or variant covers but didn't have the problems some folks did with the contents themselves.

But I do think that the cover you picked and this one were some of the best of their kind that we've had in a while.

>>94779080
>>94779487

It works out that way for Marble because granite fans just have, by and large, that version of say Iron Man (all of them expect him to to be quippy, for example, and have a drinking problem), Star Lord, Hawkeye, Black Widow, etc.

Even the few portrayals you see in animation don't particularly differentiate too much from the MCU version and their animation never reached the number of fans that the DCAU, Fleischer Studios/Famous Studios, or other live action version of Clark Kent/Superman that we have had.

Most of the time, what I see is people referring to MoS as Murderman or the murderverse (inclusive of Batman, post BvS) and I don't think those people are thinking of either as the definitive version, in the same way they think of RDJ as the definitive IM

>>94777232
Maybe you shouldn't be such an entitled brat? MoS is by far the most comic accurate version of this character. If you don't realize that stop pretending you are some huge fan. You like Reeve and that's fine. But admit that shit to yourself and stop shitting on MoS.

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>>94778350

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>>94778535

>>94776033
I've full out cosplayed to movie openings before. It's fun.

>>94781863
The sad part about this is that you have no idea how egocentric and pitiful you sound/are. Get some help and grow up. This is an example of having nothing to offer the world. You have the power to be better

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>>94780316

>>94781477
Stop saying the F word. You know it's cruel and hurtful yet you do it anyway out of a privileged and misguided sense of entitlement. Sounds like the kind of person Superman would fucking hate.

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>>94780429

>>94782201
>>94782274

Remember that Batman '66 came after Wonder Woman '77. People have been asking DC to do a Lois & Clark '93

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>>94781904

>>94785085
It's more of a question about who the reinvention is for.

Is it to appeal everyone, or just anyone who would like to read a Superman comic?

>>94781635
Brainiac's son/clone once fought Lobo to a standstill and he lacks all of Brainiac's inorganic enhancements, so adult Coluans (or at least Brainiacs) are clearly /very/ strong. That coupled with the fact that the force fields they Brainiacs use are pretty much indestructible and that they have been shown to be able to learn new fighting styles incredible fast means that they are indeed a bit of an obstacle even for Supes. But they are also often kinda crazily obsessive about things and that makes them neglect certain other things, which is what makes both of them vulnerable (1 moreso than 2 though).

Brainiac 3 and 5 are much smaller, less muscular and younger than the first two so they obviously aren't as strong, but 3 is brutal in every way and good at techniques while 5 is usually very good at using a combination of force fields, trickery and the powers of various teammates. And they both also have issues with hubris.

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Why don't Superman just rape Lex?

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Batman > Supershiter

>>94786635
Because we get Injustice when Supes rapes people.

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>>94788201

Here's another Samne B&W line art that someone can color in for kicks.

>>94788257
Does it matter what color blue Superman is? 70's light blue, 80s/90s blue or modern dark blue?

>>94788276
Christopher Reeve will always be Superman to me

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More adult coloring book fun

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>>94785410
>shitting on MoS
"I'm glad you still can [have hope for the DCEU]" is shitting, now?

Somehow I think the entitled brat is the one pulling a No True Scotsman here.

>>94781329
he has seen everone naked since he was young. he simply doesn't care.

>>94786693
See >>94783070

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>>94780429

>>94788734
Clark is such a fucking doofus.

I love it.

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>>94788257
Here you go

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>>94788307

Sorry, I've been in another thread. But yeah, it looks good, thanks.

I uploaded the original Samne, there's a whole collection of artists who did a nice variety of line art (or even colorized) art based on a theme and I really liked the ones Samne did, Doc Shaner also did some, there's some great Plasticman ones, and some nice Bucky Barnes as well as Calvin and Hobbes. It was a really great project while it was going on.

Someone colorized that first Samne and someone else is now posting it in these threads, so I'm just trying to provide more fodder.

It's nice to see a lot more new images in these threads, it often seems (even if it's not the same people every week) that we're reposting a lot of the same images over and over.

>>94789291
I colored both those Samne pictures. He draws a great classic looking Superman

>>94789475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxLWLVwmjMU

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>>94789475

Is this from Superman Confidential?

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>>94790156

looks nice - THANKS!

>>94789558
Brittany Williams needs to do a Young Animal backup, where she isn't rushed.

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>>94790399

I like her work and these are bit better than some of the colorized versions I've seen -

>>94789459
>>94789558

but I'm not fond of whatever was on her mind when she did the pant legs on Clark, for example, here:

it's a bit too much of a steam-punk outfit on Clark, for example.

>>94790479
I want to say the intent is less steampunk and more "Clark is a fashion disaster."

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>>94789291

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>>94790898

Then so is Jimmy. Whereas he really should look either more like a kid, more like the B&W and early colorized TAOS on broadcast TV, or similar.

I mean, I do like her work. I think I'd put her with a good writer but I'm not fond of the clothing choices - I'm not sure an editor would let her fly with these. American Alien did dress both Clark and Superman a bit differently than the norm, but nothing that was going to be this OOC.

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>>94791133

And Mullet version, no less.

>>94776033
Same.

>>94783468
Every costume in this picture is the worst costume.

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>>94789459

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Why shouldn't someone tug on Supes' cape? I don't get it.

>>94794449
You like your cape to be tugged?

>>94794483
I wouldn't consider it a pet peeve.

Then again, i don't wear a cape in public.

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I still hate this ship.

What happens if Bizarro is exposed to green kryptonite?

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>>94795410
I think it gives him a boost of power?

Works for Ultraman.

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>>94794739
Superbat is my guilty pleasure, but I really hate WW/SM. Batman and Wondy is alright though.

>>94794446

The colorization helps a lot. I don't understand why (and just noticed/realized) that collegiate Clark, for some reason, is the only one that isn't happy/smiling.

>>94783143
Found the edgelord.

>>94783070
superfags =/= superman fans

superfags just care about wank and power levels.

>>94796774
Maybe Jonathan Kent just died and it's when he decided to be Superman

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>>94797005
There's nothing edgy in that post anon.
If anything it's pretty bland.

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>>94796641

>>94783468
Out of all those shitty costumes, I can not tell you which one I find the most atrocious.

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Reminder that Kal El is beautiful

>>94797942
What Superdickery is this from

>>94776033
>I'm going to feel amazing watching a shit movie

>>94785410
>Entitled
Yeah, we are entitled to a not shit movie.
>most comic accurate version of this character
Yet the least comic book accurate version of his character of any other movie.You are pleb.

>>94785410
>Stop shitting on MoS
Why? Everyone else is doing it including every reviewer.

I watched Superman Returns the other day while it was playing on TV. Say what you want, but Luthor giving into all his pent-up rage while Superman is weakened from the Kryptonite mountain was a great scene.

>>94776033
I wore glasses, a partly buttoned-down white collared shirt, and a Superman T-shirt under it to BVS. What a mistake that was when the movie turned out to be shit.

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>>94797083

It's only in Grant Morrison's Action run that Jonathan dies when Clark is college age. He was still alive post COIE up past Funeral For A Friend. I'm not sure what the re-write of the universe from Superman Reborn does, but that's not, I'm sure, what she had in mind when she drew those.q

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>>94798384

Superman Returns has definite problems, I always fast forward through certain sections when I rewatch it, but the save of the Shuttle to the save of the jet down to the baseball diamond is still one of the best examples of a live action Superman film that is 'most comic accurate' (since we're tossing that around); with the save of the Daily Planet globe, the fire shaft image, and the flight image, especially up to the stars by himself, and gif attached are also pretty nifty images that are comic accurate.

>>94782201
That would be great! Especially if they were one and dones to match the structure of the shorts.

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>>94783027

It indicates that, at least among the modern generation, Man of Steel is considered the more successful film. It's rating might be lower, and let's be honest a 75% agg isn't bad at all, but it's held that slightly lower rating with almost four times the number of people voting.

I really don't understands why the critics despise Snyder so much. While the DCEU could have done better up til WoWo, the critical reception and audiance reception just don't line up.

>>94782810
>I also don't want him to be AoU Steve.

That's my biggest fear, but for future films. There is only limited 'damage' Whedon can do to JL, and the leaks sound like he is doing some good. But it's so easy to flanderize Superman's boy-scout traits.

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>>94783092

Except that is totally false, because that's exactly what MOS did for some of us. It's the reason I'm here right now and have Superman trades among the Batman stuff on my bookshelf.

Very few people 'hate' Superman, unless they are already comic readers and pride themselves on being edgy. i.e teenagers, generally. But a lot of people don't understand how human he is or his personality, and while it might have gone too far with the 'human weaknesses' element for a lot of people for others it made us give him a chance beyond the concept of 'overly bright looking flying-brick'.

As living proof your argument is bullshit, what's your real angle?

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>>94788333

No, you're fucking Bruce Wayne's.

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>>94788521

Plus, he is a walking personification of the realization Doc Manhatten had at the end of Watchmen.

He can not only see everyone naked, their entire bodily structure, the shit moving through their bowels, and piss-drip and vaginal discharge stains in their underwear...

He can literally see how you are held together, maybe read your DNA, and see YOU and how unique from ever other seven billion humans you are, and everything you could be.

Though the former stuff is still kind of gross and means he judges everyone by personality, because everyone is kinda horrific visually and nassaly.

>>94793274
She needs a white cape, for contrast.

>>94794449
It's disrespectful.

>>94794449
Haven't you heard the song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4qUXcXuMSE

>>94782561
>>94783027


Most of RT is useless because they use a lot of website and 'not respectable' critics for their critics score. That's way, if you are going to argue 'CRITICS LIKE/DON'T LIKE' either XYZ film or 123 film, MetaCritic is a better site.

When Superman - The Movie came out, 70% of the sites that are being used for reviews didn't even exist. While some of those sites have gone back and retrospectively reviewed S-TM, that's not really legitimate.

It would be comparable to something like someone going back and reviewing Star Wars (A New Hope) from the New York Times today and replacing the review that was done (assuming the NYT did one) when the movie came out in the 80s. It would be hard for a critic to review SWs in the current environment, knowing what they know, having seen the additional trilogy films and the prequel etc. Likewise, it's hard for current sites to review S-TM and not have comparisons to even movies that came out after it, for good or bad (Batman & Robin, for example).

>>94799941
>It indicates that, at least among the modern generation, Man of Steel is considered the more successful film.

Finally, those numbers are BS. You can find similar rankings and audience votes on iMDB, where S-TM is far, far higher.

Furthermore, the fact that S-TM inflation adjusts to 3x the ticket sales of MoS proves with actual, conclusive dollars/butts in seats versus internet BS voting, that more people liked one versus the other.

>>94800815
>She needs a white cape

They do show her with what is more properly a cloak, not an actual cape, since neither the Greeks nor the Amazonians would wear capes.

For that matter, the drawing really shouldn't be drawn to make it look like Bruce can fly, since he can't without exterior mechanisms.

>>94803637

It always seems to come down to comparisons. No one is saying that Man of Steel is universally loved, nor CR wasn't a more lovable Superman, However an average of 7 (point something) out of 10 across all review sources is far from bad or even average.

People stating it was a failure just because they hate is it objectively wrong, straight from the numbers.

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>>94794449

>>94804588
Is this the ultimate solution to the trunk faggery...?

>>94788521
>tfw Superman has powered billons of teenage fantasies over the years of having X-ray vision
Truly a pinnacle

hey how do i get into the dcu? whats a good way to torrent dc comics? i bought the two issues of dark days and i am fucking lost. also. will dc ever made a good movie?

>>94805439
You read something you like and then you branch out from there. The recent Rebirth #1s are good starting points, pick a character/genre you like and go from there.

And most of the animated movies are decent to great.

>>94805484
>genre
what is this?

okay i chose batman and probably green lantern. then what? im assuming i pirate them from somewhere. any sources?

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>>94805439
>will dc ever made a good movie?
They've made a few.

Superman 1 and 2, Nolan films. V for vendetta was alright too.

>whats a good way to torrent dc comics?

>open torrent site
>google: whatever the fuck you're after

Or you could just read from: http://readcomiconline.to/ or one of the 9001 similar sites that literally any retard, bar you amusingly, can find by googling

>read comics online free

It ain't hard, mate.

>hey how do i get into the dcu?

Pick a character or team you like and star from their most recent launch.

Or you could just read an event/limited run. They're pretty good for catapulting you in. Blackest Night, Sinestro Corps war, Superman Birthright, etc etc

Superman is pretty great right now. As is Hal Jordan Green Lantern Corps. Both are 25ish issues in. Easy to catch up with.

Google images search recommended reading for a character and you'll get a billion start off points. Pic related.

>>94804825

First of all, don't get me wrong. I think Superman Returns had problems but I also think it would have a better verse to build a connected universe with Nolan Bats except for Christopher Nolan having multiple solid rods up his ass about Gotham being some isolated island of isolated lonesomeness. And better is relative, it still would have required a fair amount of retooling.

Likewise MoS was a bad film to hang a universe on, for multiple reasons. I don't hate it and I'd agree with you that hating something doesn't make it a failure. But MoS is not a success in any relative terms.

You are considering 70% as something good, when it's essentially a D+, C- grade. Man of Steel, a SUPERMAN movie, featuring the first superhero ever, and arguably the most iconic and best known image on the planet, made less many than a movie with VILLAINS. MoS made less domestically and made less WORLDWIDE.

Justice League will easily make more and I would be willing to be actual cash that Aquaman will likely make more, meaning that MoS will be #5, quite probably #6, within 12 months. It will likely be the Incredible Hulk of the DCEU, that lowest grossing movie that people still wonder if it's part of the MCU, ignoring that fact that their powerhouse manlet was in it's post film/credit tease.

>>94805439

Dark Days is a mistake to try to use as a starting off point for comic books.

The DCU is pretty wide. You need to pick some part of it (for example, this is a Superman thread, are you actually interested in Superman stories, or do you want to read about the Green Lanterns, or about the Justice League - or other teams/team up books, etc. And then you have to ask for recommendations when you can tell people what you want and seek. Also, check out recommended reading lists.

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>>94805439
>>94805543

Don't read batman. He doesn't need the sales.

There's dozens of other wonderful characters being published.

>>94805543
A genre of fiction.
>a category of artistic, musical, or literary composition characterized by a particular style, form, or content a classic of the gothic novel genre

You can start with the recent Green Lanterns run if you want to ease into things or Johns' Green Lantern: Rebirth if you want more context and a longer story. Use readcomicsonline or something.

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>>94805306

>>94805578
ill try out the green lantern too and maybe a qt super heroine

>>94805574
>Dark Days is a mistake to try to use as a starting off point for comic books.
it has a shiny cover so i got trapped

>>94805590
>>94805590
>>a category of artistic, musical, or literary composition characterized by a particular style, form, or content a classic of the gothic novel genre
i knew that i just dont know it applies to capeshit

alright ill look into both and check that out.

thanks all

>>94777904
What is this from? Totally unfamiliar to me

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>>94805617
Final Crisis: Superman Beyond

Go read it now. It's a two part. Some of the best Supes you'll ever read.

>>94800169
>As living proof your argument is bullshit, what's your real angle?
>somehow I have some ulterior motive because I spoke badly about MoS
This is great.

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>>94805952
>everything in that last panel

Where is this from?

>>94806264
Superman/Batman.

It's from the imagination of two kids, talking about who would win in a fight.

>>94806264
Superman/Batman #78

>>94805606
>alright ill look into both and check that out.

The Batman Superman book from the New 52 was decent, although you'll be confused if you start there.

The Superman/Batman team up book (about 80+ issues plus annuals) start up really excellently (they even made animation versions of the first two arcs) are excellent. This series also features a lot of the Justice League and DC members regularly so you'll get familiar enough with them and their allies.

I'll even get you started:

Superman-Batman Vol. 1 (2014) (digital TPB) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0z1xzivwmcf4l9t

Superman-Batman Vol. 2 (2014) (digital TPB) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ldpjdsgz6v0xwsn

Superman-Batman Vol. 3 (2016) (digital TPB) (Minutemen-Slayer)
https://mega.nz/#!0zwDGbqR!J434suP8vZupSmDJsKaeRTwx9cJSWqQX_2dCCsMuuG8

Superman-Batman Vol. 4 (2016) (digital TPB) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yj8jjm3s9f9bga8/

There's also an Elseworld series: Superman/Batman - Generations, and a Golden Age to Silver Age series: World's Finest, and many more. Check out some team up books.

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>>94805602

Brittany Williams again.

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>>94806159

>whose your daddy now, Lois Lane?

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>>94806644

>>94781368
What issue is this or who drew it?

>>94778449
I've got that framed in my living room (Next to my girlfriend's art Deco Ironman). I fucking love this picture.

>>94777904
What club are you at where Thought Robot could even fit inside?

>>94808243
The best damn club in town!