Frozen: The Musical

>>94743242
Why don't anons shitpost about the Alladin musical?

>>94743588
This is new, and we all know why we need to shitpost about this

>>94743242
Finally sami getting proper representation

>>94743602
No one wants to see Jasmin get RICED?

>>94743588
This is new, and we all know why we need to shitpost about this

>>94743704
Whoops

>>94743242
This is so degenerate

>>94743242
Race changes don't count in theater.

It took me awhile to understand
at first I thought it was going to be shitty but then I saw Kristoff and know what will be on everyone's minds

>>94744296

>no ice trolls at all

Automatically superior version.

>>94744296

>>94745321
>>94744296
But why, Hamilton got away with murder. This will as well. Is it because theater is literally only mega liberal faggots?

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>>94743242
>Dat bulge

>>94745548
Hamilton is pretentious tripe that makes people feel smart watching a "Historical Drama" on the level of Jesus Christ Superstar.

>>94745548
>theater is literally only mega liberal faggots?

This, and you look like a racist if you question it. Any complaint can be justified with "he was the better fit," even if that is an absurdity just by his skin color alone, it's nkt an argument anyone with real power can make and win.

>>94745692
If one or two of the white guys in Hamilton was black because he was the best fit, whatever, it's weird and not correct but whatever. The vast majority though? It's just a nog hotep revisionist wet dream. I hate that it makes me mad, but I can't help it.

>>94745752
the audition materials where "whites need not apply"

Yea that was their intention from the start.

>>94745752
Now start searching through tweets about Hamilton. I bet you'll find more than a few urban youths unironically angry about how history is whitewashing those great black founding fathers. You absolutely know it to be true.

>>94744296
This. If he can sing well it's a no brainer

>>94745802
I have thought about that, but I honestly don't know if I could handle reading stuff like that. I would lose my fucking mind and I know I'd say something retarded at work.

>>94744296
This. Look at musicals like Le Mis where they've gotten people from Filipinos to African-Americans playing a bunch of French revolutionaries. Color-blind casting is pretty popular

>>94743242
Bad guy is still a cracker. Villains will never, ever be blackwashed. You can make heroes and sidekicks into the pitchest, blackest, mother fucking invisible-at-night-until-the-smile darkies until the god damned cows come home, but God have fucking mercy on your soul if you turn a white villain black. Literally the only instance I can think of a white villain being made black is, hilariously, Michael C. Duncan as Kingpin in the Daredevil movie. That shit will NEVER happen again.

Were you actually going to watch this? Does this actually affect you in any way?

>>94745863
The bad guy in the Kingsman comic was white, but in the movie they replaced him with Sam Jackson. So that's something

>>94745919
Sam Jackson loves playing bad guys.

Also they kidnapped Mark Hamill in the comics and in the movie Mark Hamill was playing a character. Which I'm not entirely sure that wasn't his choice to show up in character.

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>>94744296
Sami are one of the smallest minorities on the planet.

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>>94745863
>Villains will never, ever be blackwashed
That's not true at all. I never see threads of anons complaining about villains being changed, just heroes. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all. Is your entire view constructed by what people make threads of? Do you not look anything up yourself? Most of the black males in Spider-man Homecoming were villains.

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>>94745863
come on anon. sjws don't really care about black males being the villain.

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>>94743242
Why can't they just cast a guy that looks like the character in the film? Would that be such an odd concept ? I'm sure there are loads of hunky blonde guys who could play the part of the hunky blonde guy.

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>>94745863


The White guy (Hans) will trick the ginger white princess (Anna) into falling in love with him only to betray her, and turn into the heartless evil villain. He than tries to kill both her and her sister in cold blood.

The brave, and selfless black guy (Kristoff) will run back to Anna's side in hopes of saving her from the evil white prince. In the end the white princess punches out the evil white prince. Than the white princess, and black guy sharing a passionate kiss, and become a couple.

>>94743242
Hold the fuck up, Frozone wasn't in that movie.

>>94745863
Kingpin
it was also a fucking amazing casting choice

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>>94745863

>>94744296
If Othello can be portrayed by a white guy, anyone can be any fucking thing in theater.

No one is there to see the men.

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>>94746542
Of course they don't care. As long as the majority of the baddies continue to be white, but if that were to suddenly change, all of SJW Hell would break lose.

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>>94750014
I always thought Lex Luthor was a bold white dude.

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>3rd thread
>anons still don't give a shit

Next.

>>94745692
But that's literally how it works. The very nature of theater means that the actors themselves don't really matter. In several classical societies men regularly played female roles (well, exclusively), and the audience accepted it, because that's the suspension of disbelief that theater runs on. It's the same principle now.

Hamilton is a special case because it primarily prided itself (and marketed itself) as slapping the aesthetic of hip-hop onto the story of the American Revolution, hence why blackness is so prominently featured in it.

>>94749647
but can he sing

>>94745548
>>94745692
>>94745752
Or maybe it's because black and hispanic people are more into hip-hop you ideologue morons? Do you see blacks lining up to go to the opera? How fucking retarded are you that the first thing you assume when this happens is muh racism against white people ;(

Who fucking cares? They cast him for acting ability, not skin color.

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>>94751208
Well, I don't know if that guy can sing, but I'm sure that if an audition was held DISNEY would be able to find a blonde hunky dude who could sing within a few weeks if not sooner. In fact he wouldn't even have to be a real blonde. The guy could wear a wig which would be less distracting than race swapping the character. What really blows here is that this is being done purely for PC reasons, and there really isn't any need for it.

>>94745692
>muh skin colour

idiot

I'm not even calling you a racist here, I'm saying you only engage with literature in the most basic and vapid way.

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>>94745692
>Any complaint can be justified with "he was the better fit," even if that is an absurdity just by his skin color alone

Agreed. Lifes not fair, and having a fat, hairy 50 year old guy playing the part of Ariel from Little mermaid on stage is just as silly as having a black guy play the part of a blond guy. There should be a line that separates what people want, and reality, but SJWs try their hardest to blur that line when ever they are given the chance to.

Also don't feel discouraged if few anons on this site agree with you. There are external forces at work from other sites that work 24/7 around the clock to "Done vote" any comment which isn't 100% PC.
>image very related.

>>94743602
If this is a theater production you need to know that race swapping happens all the time there, it's been happening way before this was considered a problem

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>>94743242
Did they make Kristoff a black guy?

>>94746442
That isn't electro. That's Mister freeze

>>94743242
The movie was a small step away from being a stage play already so it's probably gonna be fine.

>>94744296
This. Everyone knows this. Fucking people bitching about this this stuff who've never been a theater in their life.

>>94751344

>b-b-b-but white people are just as good at rap and hip-hop!

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>>94743242
Remember when The Little Mermaid hit Broadway, and Disney made Ariel's father,and sisters black. Prince Eric's understudy was also a black guy. That shit was messed up, and funny as fuuuuuck.

>>94752635
>>94744296

Not even race swapping but gender swapping too. This is a non-issue made even less of an issue by theater.

>>94752731

>thicc black ursula

I didn't know I needed this

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>>94752731
It was almost as funny as that Martin Luther King JR stage show that had a white old guy play the part of Martin Luther King JR.
Now that's fucking comedy gold right there.

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>>94745875
>Were you actually going to watch this?
Yes, I am a Disney whore.

>Does this actually affect you in any way?
Yes, I don't like it when people in power try to re-wire, and fuck with my mind to fit their agendas. Let love be love, and let people love who ever they want to love, but I don't like the idea of some big media overlord trying to push me into a specific direction for "reasons". I don't know what their end game is, and that's what makes me feel uncomfortable.

>>94753074
are we complaining about characters who have existed for 35 years now? Is that what it's come to?

>>94752787
what was the plan here

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>>94753226
>complaining about characters who have existed for 35 years now?
>35 years
Well, that's kinda when it all started isn't it? I'm not saying I know everything, but once that hippie boy band called "The Beatles" came to the US with their gender neutral long hair, and introduced the concept of boy band lust, and free love is when the system started to glitch. That's where it all started to slowly crack around the edges.

>>94753074

Why did they get a Jamal type to play a Tyrone type?

>>94753302
why not go further back to 1863 when Lincoln freed all those uppity slaves

Wait why not hire the original actors? They're broadway fuckers. Hell, just hire Jonathan Groff as Kristoph and make him gay at the end.

>>94753368
yeah let's just hire two of the most famous modern Broadway actors, a Hollywood actor, and another reasonably-famous-but-not-like-Jonathan Groff-tier Broadway actor

that's sure to give us a decent return on our investment instead of just hiring some random nobodies, sell the exact same number of tickets, and make way more money because we didn't have to pay four expensive leads

>>94753332
Ha ha, Funny, but what I said does have some truth to it.

Since you seem to know things about slavery maybe you can answer a question for me. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong because it's something I was told by a teacher in high school, and I'm not sure if it's true, but weren't black slaves sold by and first introduced to white people by Jewish business men? Was it not Jewish business men who were making money off of selling black slaves to derpy white people?

>>94753483
it was mostly the Portuguese who started what would eventually become the Atlantic slave trade and American chattel slavery, although it was a (non-Jewish) British man who started up the triangular trade system. There were probably Jewish business owners who participated in the slave trade, but da Joos were not responsible for the slave trade as a whole.

>>94744296
They don't count in general. Unless race was an important part of the character to begin with or if a certain race being in a certain role/time/place doesn't make any sense.

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>>94745548
>>94745692
>replying to yourself

>>94752731
Ariel has a black dad and a black sister, her best friend is black and the evil sea witch is now black. Did they at least make Sebastian black?

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>>94743242
>Frozen: The Musical
Those poor /frz/ fags. They waited so long for this moment.

Hans looks more like a skinny gay AIDs survivor who is so old hes showing early signs going bold instead of looking like a dashing young prince.

Anna looks like a middle aged Amy Schulman SNL type comedian instead of a cute teen princess.

The lovable Kristoff has been blacked for all time.

Elsa looks like an icy old cunt instead of an icy young cunt.

You had one job Disney!

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>>94745851
But then what is the point of doing a historical piece, or any piece set in fantasy world where the races are part of the cultural backdrop that makes the world believable?

Seems lazy at best, aggressively-regressive at worst.

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Ay yo hol' up.
You nu's claim theatre is colorblind, but then why is it that if there is a specific black/latino/asian role in a play, the casting directors will jump through hoops to make sure it is filled by someone of matching ethnicity?

>>94754013
Literally
Fucking
See
>>94752787
They cast an old white man as MLK Jr. Race does not have any importance in theatre you absolute child.
I am getting so sick of people constantly talking out of their ass about things they literally know nothing about.

>>94754052
>I am getting so sick of people constantly talking out of their ass about things they literally know nothing about
Doesn't stop you from doing it.
But if you're getting sick of it, then simply fuck off instead of whining about it.

By the way, one single instance does not magically negate that white roles are always filled by whatever, while ethnic roles are typically never given to whites.

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>>94754079
Okay how about the multiple times Othello has been played by white people?

>>94750234
Wait, you don't include James Earl Jones as vader's voice, but you included Maz's voice? They still had black first order officers and they portrayed Saw as a rebel extremist.

>>94743242
Elsa and Ana aren't black

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>94752731
Dat Ursula.

s-so thicc!

My only complaint is that they didn't get a fat drag queen to play Ursula. Where is the Divine respect?

No love for the trans community from Disney?

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

>>94754314
This tbqh. Also since they're already changing race they really should go womb deep on this one and just have Anna and Elsa be lesbians.

>>94754373
SOLD. I'd be there for that in a new york minute.

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>>94750234
aren't the vast majority of heroes still white? All I'm saying is I only hear some sjws complain about heroes while some anons here complain about the villains >>94749846
while they do swap them out and include original non-white villains. anons act like there haven't been recent stuff in the media were there black villains and the white guy was going for the black chick. That's spider-man hoemcoming.

>>94754218
Why are you baiting? Othello was about a Moor, Moors aren't black- they're North African.

>>94754624
>aren't the vast majority

That's literally not the point. If the villains were as multiracial as the heroes no one cares, but the fact they conspicuously casted only whites as villains in Star Wars bothers people for obvious reasons.

>>94754624
That guy is almost 60? Wow.

>>94753328
A less threatening man is better if you're selling something to women

>>94754624
>be white artist
>make white superhero

RACIST

>be black
>have no artistic skills because too busy with crime
>blame whitey for lack of black superheroes.

NOT A RACIST

>>94754677
>but the fact they conspicuously casted only whites as villains in Star Wars bothers people for obvious reasons.
You mean just like original trilogy? And the prequels?
If you're trying to make some sort of grand argument that Star Wars is extremely left leaning in it's obviously symbolic casting choices you're about 30 years late. Star wars always had the empire represented entirely by white men on purpose. If anything they are just following the formula George set down.

>>94754677
Does James Earl Jones count? he was in Rouge One, but apparently voices don't count unless it's snoke and maz?

>>94750234
>Caeser is a villian when he is the central protagonist of three movies sucking his dick
>Brienne is a villian in any way when she is the picture of a chivalrous knight
No idea about the other two but the last one is clearly Jewish.

>>94754722
Did I argue this at all? What are you on about?

>>94754740
>>94754758
Does it count as falling for bait if you know you're being baited?

>>94749846
So the same exact plot of the movie but now it's different because he is black? You're sounding real insecure man.

>>94745548
Hamilton is incredibly overrated. I imagine the only reason it gets such acclaim in America is because it is American History. It's never going to be a popular mainstream play anywhere else in the world.

>>94754791
>Make retarded argument
>Get btfo
>MERELY PRETENDING
Low test bants man. I see why whites are going extinct if that's all you've got.

>>94754788
i wasnt really atacking you.

>>94743242
> Kris is a tall and bulky dude
> Cast a guy who is scrawnier than Hans and shorter than Elsa

Hilarious. There's far more dubious issues with the casting than the race change.

>>94754819
>Plays with specific cultural significance won't be extremely popular outside of that specific culture
No shit Sherlock. And nobody outside of Britain cares about Dunkirk.

>>94743242
>ayy yo elsa lemme holla at ya gurl
>"let it go?" yall better not let go of muh dick yaknow what im sayin?

>>94743242
Solid, solid work by the mod team allowing those fucking obsessed /pol/niggers to shit up both /tv/ and /co/ with these threads

>>94745548
Wasn't that the whole point of Hamilton though? Black dudes rapping and playing historical figures?

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>>94753977
It's all right. We've still got the Christmas special in a few months.

And then Frozen 2. The Resurgence is coming.

>>94750014
he wasn't black.

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>>94754956
That's good to know, anon. Stay warm and cozy.

>>94754052
>Race does not have any importance in theatre you absolute child.
But that is incorrect. Racial casting can make or break a play.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/theater/mandy-patinkin-oak-onaodowan-great-comet.html?mcubz=0
http://www.onstageblog.com/columns/2017/5/18/estate-of-edward-albee-yanks-rights-to-production-over-casting-of-black-actor

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>>94743242
You know damn well niggers don't like the cold

>>94743242
>Reindeers are better than people

Nah, just better than niggers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmyO11UmGBo [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2GDE0CwcI [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mb-77wNhAs [Embed]

some of the people who play European characters and Jasmine in Disneyland in Anaheim are part Native Central/South/North American. sometimes white men or men who seem to be part Native Central/South/North American play Aladdin.

www.instagram.com/lakhani_fatima/

>>94743242
Anna looks terrible, no surprise there.