LOL

l-lol?

It took me like five minutes to figure out what the last panel was even trying to convey.

>>94733821

Could they pee through that plastic dick? I've only ever seen pure plastic ones so trying to use a urinal that way seems very inconvenient.

>>94733821
So? Use the toilet like all those pussies with an inferiority complex that hate using urinals.

>>94733821
This is what the media wants us to believe is normal.

>>94733821
If you told me 5 years ago that such degeneracy would be mainstream I would have laughed in your face.

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>>94733846
There are devices for that, but none that look like a dick.

>>94733846
I doubt you could. How you you maintain pressure?

>>94733886
i do not "get it"

>>94733882
>2012

That year was pretty degenerate as well anon.

>>94733898
she was kind of short for a girl, but now is tiny to be a man.

>>94733886
Why isn't he honorkilling her for bringing shame to his family?

>>94733907
That actually kinda clever.

Can we get a LOL thread without transgender nonsense? Spice it up a bit, you faggots

>>94733898
He's bullying her for being short and as a man you are seen as even shorter.

>>94733821
>>94733886
this is really stupid.

>>94733918
But it's depressing not funny.

>>94733913
Because theres nothing against transitioning in the Koran. The transition surgery capital of the world is Tehran. Gays are encouraged to do it so they dont live in sin.

>>94733821
DETACHABLE PENIS

>>94733862
>just take your dick out in front of the bros, pussy
Nice try fag, you aren't seeing my dick

>>94733885
>>94733821
Wait? Why do women have to squat to pee?

>>94733898
She is now a manlet.

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lol

>>94733882
>generic tumblr comic
>mainstream
stop spinning a narrative

>>94733934
>shiite scum
>muslim

>>94733941
women pee out of their urethra which is between their legs. they physically can't pee standing up because it goes down. they don't squat, they just sit.

>unzips off dick

>>94733941
If they just stand up and let it go it would run down all over their legs, dude.

>>94733951
That is kinda funny. This comic doesn't strike me as being so terribly insufferable like "assigned male" or something

>>94733951
where's the joke?

>>94733999
it's /fit/

>>94733999
Picking your nose is the same as kissing your dildo.

>>94733960
>they physically can't pee standing up
>>94733969

Someone hasn't watched any piss porn. It's a matter of spreading the folds properly and having a powerful enough stream that it doesn't dribble out. It is possible for girls to pee standing up, but it's super inconvenient.

>>94733934
Huh. That's actually really interesting.

>>94733960
>>94733969
This feels like a failure in nature. You get more advantage peeing standing up than sitting and having your urethra connect to something outside of your body.

>>94734026
but you squat to poop, anon

might as well squat to pee as well

>>94733821
This is a pretty funny example of surreal humor if you take out the #FTMPROBLEMS part.

>>94734026
Look, the body is trying to balance a lot of different functions there at once, you're not going to get optimal answers for everything.

>>94733862
It's because they're now a REAL MAN. And REAL MEN use the urinals which women can't.
Entirely an ego/self image thing.

>>94734017
they physically can't pee standing up without getting it all over themselves. there, you finicky ass. and i'd like a sauce on that "it is possible but super inconvenient."

>>94734038
Next time you think it's more convenient to sit while you pee, compare a busy public men's bathroom to a busy public women's bathroom. The huge line outside the women's bathroom will confirm what I'm saying.

>>94734026
Women have it shitty, not news

>>94734049
If humans were bigger we could have more optimized functions.

I love how webcomic threads on this website always immediately turn to SJW content. Might as well cut right to the chase.

>>94734084
I dont think Bipedalism works well past certain body sizes.

>>94734049
But muh infallible nature designs and adapting the best of things to get optimalbility.

>>94734066
Just search for some piss porn on pornhub, pham. The reason why it's inconvenient is that A. Not every girl can do it properly and B. Even the girls who can, need to remove or pull down their pants completely.

>>94733821
>tfw I have gender dysphoria but I dont wanna be a fag about it
What do lads

>>94733844
It first I thought it was a funny absurd joke about a dude misplacing his dick, absurd cause you realistically can't misplace a body part. Then I saw the title and realized it was a female to male tranny forgetting her prosthetic and it became no longer funny.

>>94734130
Learn to love yourself for who you are

>>94734130
Accept your nothing but a brain in a meat suit. Does it matter what the meat suit looks like?

>>94734130
Don't be a fag about it. I mean get whatever treatment or therapy you want. Just yknow dont make webcomics about it.

>>94734130
Understand that someone, somewhere will always think you're a fag no matter what. Live your life.

>tfe sometimes I wish I was a girl, but only so I could wear pretty dresses and play with dolls without getting made fun of.

>>94734130
do what I do, transition and explain to everyone you arent as retarded as transtrenders or the tumblr transes

>>94734081
Woah, dude. Don't, just don't. We don't want a gender/feminism argument breaking out. Next time stay quiet.

>>94734130
Go to the doctor and they will help you deal with your mental problems.

>>94734130
Ask /lgbt/, they have threads for that all the time. They're basically /pol/ for LGBT.

>>94734130
Get therapy.

>>94734259
Shut up.

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sometimes it's the little things that ruin a good joke

>>94733821
>>94734334
you just reminded me of this classic song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBPgJQhQHc

one of my favorites

>>94734334
Of course you think of having a penis as a little thing, being as your own is so small.

>>94734151
>>94734289
unironically these. cognitive behavioral therapy is good if you can't love yourself on your own.

>>94734130
look up therapists who are recommended by trans people in your area, that's a start

>>94734334
But then I understand it even less.

>>94734334
It's funnier if you think of him as a dude with a detachable dick.

>>94734130
find out what's causing your dysphoria and address it, whether that be through therapy or introspection. transitioning is a last resort.

>>94733821

Oh yeah, the "Eunuch Quill" apparatus for standing up to pee without a dick (for the poor bastards that had full root-and-stem castrations)... it's over a thousand years old. It'd probably work.

I wonder if somebody has patented one.

>>94734130
Get help. Dysphoria is a mental disease, and you need to treat it as such.

Plus there's the possibility that you're self-diagnosing erroneously

>>94734456
Just android problems?

>>94734130
avoid taking any advice, because people that want to gove you advice about these sort of things are either huge fuckin perverts or people who have a personal beef against transition and think that their situation reflects everyone's. however, it -is- helpful to read about other people's experiences (people who transitioned and dysphoric people who did not transition/detransitioned). remember that you know more about your situation than anyone else does and no matter what you decide to do, you'll be able to find people that love you (and some that hate you). good luck, from a dyphoric person that decided against transition for personal reasons but realize that other people have different situations

>>94734130
Well, I mean, hormone therapy will make you an emotionally volatile baby and make your body look retarded, and cosmetic genital mutilation tends to leave trannies suicidal and has been sworn off by the doctor and institution who first developed it, sooo...
Find a therapist who isn't buying into these pop culture memes and who might help you find a coping method that is not entirely self-destructive.

>>94734130
Don't transition because you'll just kill yourself after. Go to the psychologist and tell him you're crazy but you don't want to cut your dick off.

>>94734476
>avoid taking any advice
>gives long-winded advice
Classic hypocrisy.

>>94733939
>Being ashamed of your dick

Are you 5?

>>94733821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIUk08iYZKE

>>94734130

Seems like bait.

If you're asking /co/ unironically it's probably not a good idea.
But I guess I'll just say don't transition on a whim since its a commitment. Think about it for a long time and consider options and effects.

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>>94734334
And this would be the logical evolution

>>94734500
>you'll just kill yourself after
Suicide rates decrease after transitioning.

>>94734521
haha, you're right. should have specified "advice about pursuing/avoiding transition."

>>94734568
gonna need a sauce on that.

>>94734565
shoop her head onto her and you're golden

>>94734581
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/827713

Depression rates drop sharply, from 24.9% to 2.4%.

>>94733886
This one is actually sorta clever.

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>>94734601
just what the doctor ordered

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>>94734671
now if only we could combine the two

>>94734628
that article is paywalled. also, you said "suicide rates," not "depression rates."

>>94733886
kek, sick burn bro. Why are niggers so funny?

>>94733821
Remove the title and it becomes a funny gag again

>>94734671
What's the joke here? The original worked because of the implication that his dick got stuck inside the girl.

>>94734628
You can't be depressed when you're dead.

>>94734106
This sounds like something a manlet would say

>>94734693
Suicide rates among people with depression are higher than those without. Just mathematically, having a lower percentage of people with depression shaves down the numbers.

>>94734628
m8, only 10% of them are still depressed because the other 90% an heroed

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>>94734130
Find real problems or you'll end up like this dude

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>>94734565
Perfect.

>>94734713
I would guess it's a meta joke about how ever 4 panel comic, regardless of their configuration, can't escape loss.
I mean, that was the original meta behind the first one I made here, the implication of the dick is only known to those who know of the original comic

>>94734727
>>94734734
Cute.

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>>94734713

>>94733999
He pees through that. Exclusively.

>>94734731
That's like saying that people with less guns commit less suicide.

Depression doesn't always lead to suicide, but you're not required to be depressed to be siuicidal.

>>94734731
i'll throw some conjecture out and say that most trans people who kill themselves probably do so because of their dysphoria. depression may be a common comorbid illness along with dysphoria, but depression rates dropping doesn't necessarily mean shit about the suicide rates.

>>94734130
Work your way through it using exercise, hobbies and finding a purpose to throw yourself into.

>>94734750
Transitioning isn't synonymous with getting the op. Plenty choose to go non-op. A lot of people recognize current surgical measures aren't quite up to snuff, especially compared to some of the medical developments in progress.

>>94733941

How fucking old are you

>>94733886
I lol'd.

>>94734878
>Not shopping the dick into his mouth

>>94734026
What do you even think we are? Our genitals are right next to our asses. That's already a failure in design.
If it isn't broke, don't fix it - the number one rule of nature.

>>94734903
I am watching my parents' house and dogs while they drive across the country to watch the stupid fucking eclipse, I had to use my father's decade old Dell and the mouse kept freezing.

That does sound better, but I invite you to shoop it instead. Such a feat is currently beyond my abilities.

>>94733821
Why would a packer be important when you piss? Wouldn't it just get in the way?

>>94733886
I thought this one was cute.

>>94734788
>>94734798
Here's the other
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

The statistics given show that post-op MTFs have about an 11% incident rate for suicide attempts, still miles above the rate given for the female control group, but it's the Mariana Trench compared to the 41% suicide attempt incident average rate for non-transitioning, non-op groups.

>>94733886
That person just entered to a realm WHEN THEY'LL NEVER LEARN

>>94734750
What is this dilating thing?

Why do they have discharge?

>pees everywhere on neither region now that I have hole between my legs instead of a tube
What the fuck did they expect?!

>>94735055
>What is this dilating thing?
The wound attempts to heal it over, they have to fuck themselves with big plastic dildos to prevent that from happening.
>Why do they have discharge?
Probably because they plunge a giant wound in their body with a giant plastic dildo every day.

>>94734130
>One hour and dozen replies

>No "kill yourself faggot"

Can this place even be considered 4chan anymore

>>94734130
Don't be a fag about it

>>94735055
after the doctor surgically alters your weewee, you have to keep the urethra open, or else your peepee will be sealed inside your gross mutilated dick-gina.

also discharge as in pus and blood from your fresh new """"vagina""""

>>94734021
they will get killed by the muslim man they marry after he finds out his wife can't have children

>>94733886
took me a second
that's pretty good

>>94735055
>What is this dilating thing?
Basically a dildo.

>Why do they have discharge?
Because they created an unnatural flesh wound in their body. It's normal for major wounds to get infections and discharge pus.

>>94735055
Dilation is basically using a dildo to separate the folds and opening. It's necessary for several months after the surgery to keep the affected areas from being sealed together by scar tissue.

>>94735034
The control group isn't non operated/no hormonal treatment MTF trans, therefore, it can be used as an argument against operation.

Trans have higher rate of suicide, but it is believed that hormonal treatment and operation can actually reduce it.

>>94734764
you're welcome.
every bit it takes to make fun of you fucks.

I dont get it

>>94735155
>The control group isn't non operated/no hormonal treatment MTF trans, therefore, it can be used as an argument against operation.

I think you've misunderstood. The control group is the suicide rate for general population genetically female groups. Comparing it to the general population shows that it doesn't completely cure dysphoria, because there is still a significantly higher rate, but comparing it to the rate of non-transitioning MTFs shows that it is a significant improvement.

Basically, the wording's coached to focus on the comparison to post-op MTFs and genetic females in order to portray the op as ineffective, but it still shows it's much better than making no attempt at transitioning at all.

>>94733886
WHEN
WILL
THEY
LEARN

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>>94734524

We know your tricks, faggot. You're not seeing our dicks and that's that.

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>>94734935
put that in your pipe and smoke it

>>94734878
underrated

>>94735184
Ah well, I better go ahead and kill myself now.

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>>94735231
forgot the "GARFIELD!!" lol oops

>>94733886
TRANSLETS WILL NEVER LEARN

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>>94735200
>Female to Male problems
The "guy" in the picture "used" to be a girl and had a sex change, so any time he or she or whatever needs to go to the restroom he or she or whatever need an artificial penis to bridge the piss from their vagina to the urinal so they don't bother with the seats.

>>94733983
That's because FtM trannies are usually fairly well adjusted compared to MtF trannies.

Think about it. 9 times out of 10 if you see a tranny flipping out it's usually an MtF.

>>94734130
learn a fucking skill and learn how to define yourself as something other than your genitals

>>94735261
But translets are the best kind. I'm only attracted to males that could convincingly cosplay as Doxy characters.

>>94735217
>I think you've misunderstood. The control group is the suicide rate for general population genetically female groups.
This is precisely what I said.

>Basically, the wording's coached to focus on the comparison to post-op MTFs and genetic females in order to portray the op as ineffective, but it still shows it's much better than making no attempt at transitioning at all.
Ineffective isn't the word to use if there is observable improvements. or then you end up calling most cancer treatment ineffective.

>>94734216
>mutilating your body
>not retarded

>>94735248
Perfection.

>all this talk of trannies
Why are people to accept these people instead of getting treatment for them? It's a mental illness to be so deluded as to think you're a woman when you're actually a man and vice versa.

>>94735248
purrrfect

>>94735337
>This is precisely what I said.
The misunderstanding I was referring to is that it seems like we're just not on the same page here. We're in agreement, the op is a demonstrable improvement. I mentioned the general population stats because they were included in the article and I was trying to get the comparison out of the way.

>>94735380
Stop oppressing people with hatefacts you bigot

>>94735380
>Why are people to accept these people instead of getting treatment for them?
They are getting treatment, but then there are people who think they shouldn't pay for it.
>It's a mental illness to be so deluded as to think you're a woman when you're actually a man and vice versa.
Actually, it has been scientifically proven that their brain are actually closer to the opposite gender of their genital than of their own.
When you brain is actually fin and structured normally, but happens to be in the wrong body, the issue isn't the brain.

>>94735273
damm western society, you scary! !!

still thank you for the explanation

>>94735422
>hatefacts
It's not even a fact. The fatct is that Transexuallity isn't a mental illness but a condition medically recognised whose treatment can go from hormonal therapy to transitioning.

>>94735380
Because it is treatment. Neurological studies have noted that transgendered individuals have brain architecture more similar to their identified gender than their physical sex. The issue is basically that the brain and the body got conflicting design plans, and it's a lot easier to make controlled modifications to the body than to the brain.

>>94735450
>and it's a lot easier to make controlled modifications to the body than to the brain.
Not to mention, trying to change the brain instead akin to identity death.

I am exaggerating a bit, there, but trying to fix the brain instead of the body is almost like killing the person and replace it with someone else.

>>94733821
How would having a strapon have helped in that situation?

>>94733885

The first looks downright painful

>>94734750
>thoughts of this is wrong, my body isn't supposed to have a vagina
So they're reverse-dysphoric now?

>>94734130
It's a phase, don't transition , you'll regret it and could end up killing yourself

>>94735570
>medical transitioning helps no one as suicide rates are relatively phenomenal in this community

We kind of just got over discussing how transitioning has been shown to decrease incidents of both depression and suicide rates.

>>94735424
>>94735380
it's a "power" thing. like >>94733934 said. feminism has made women thing of themselves as perpetual victims and FTM offers them a way out while MTF offers them a little schadenfreude. then there is, as always, the medical racket.

>>94735424
>When you brain is actually fin and structured normally, but happens to be in the wrong body, the issue isn't the brain.

this suggests humans are created and just a result of genetic mutation over countless eons. unless it can be proven that the difference is caused by man made pollution there is no wrong body for a brain. It's just society telling you that your broken when you are really not. you should accept who you are and deal with it. medical transitioning helps no one as suicide rates are relatively phenomenal in this community. sure there are changes to be made but they aree personal and social changes not clumsy medical butchery.

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>>94733821
why are ftm trannies sufferable but mtf trannies are a cancer to the earth despite their rarity

>can't even go to /co/ without a tranny hate thread on the front page

I miss the way 4chan used to be

>>94735436
Mental illnesses are medically recognized conditions, you dolt.

>>94735628
Because when they get a fake penis put on them, they can change their minds and get it off should they wish to be a woman again. MTF can't do the same thing, they only have one cock.

>>94735570
>this suggests humans are created and just a result of genetic.
>unless it can be proven that the difference is caused by man made pollution there is no wrong body for a brain.
You know nothing about genetic an develoment of an human body. Plenty of facotr come into play and genetic is only one of them.
>there is no wrong body for a brain.
This has literally been proven false.
> It's just society telling you that your broken when you are really not.
When society has spent decade trying to curve down unfitting behavior and have repetitively failed, you have no choice but admit Society can't really do much in convincing people that they are not who they are.
>you should accept who you are and deal with it. medical transitioning helps no one as suicide rates are relatively phenomenal in this community.
Transitionning is exactly this: accepting who you are and realising you are not in the good body. Transitioning, and hormonal therapy has show to curve down the suicide rate. It is the best treatment so far.

>>94735670
see>>94735614

>>94735639
you'd be right if it was a trap hate thread not tranny hate thread

>>94735670
It's the best treatment by default because it's the ONLY treatment that has ever shown positive results.

>>94733900
2012 was the year everything really started to go downhill. The Aztecs were right, just not in the way we thought they would.

>>94735628
Easy. There are more MTFs, so it's easier for them to get into the spotlight. Testosterone is ridiculously more effective than estrogen, so more FTMs end up passable, albeit manlets. Society is more critical of the concept of emasculation and feminization than the reverse, as you'll also see with gay men being more reviled than lesbians.

Basically, FTMs have a lot more circumstantial things in their favor.

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>>94734750
That's fucking hilarious.

>>94734750
The vast, vast majority of male to female transsexuals do not get that surgery.

>>94735380
Mostly because we haven't found one that works. So far all we can do is either have very unhappy people who feel uncomfortable in their own skin or crazy people who dress and act like a lady.

Personally I'm wondering what'll come first. A better mental health option for these people or better transition technology to the point where you can't tell who was born a man or not.

>>94735659
But being a trans isn't a mental illness.

>>94734334
This is like a NSFW Nedroid

>>94735614
That's like saying being japanesese helps no one because they have super high suicide rates. Maybe...just maybe...they have MANY reasons to commit suicide.

>>94734113
Even in watersports, the women has to assume a stance with her legs at least slightly spread in order for it to not just trickle down her legs. A woman can't use the same stance a man does when he pees.

>>94734130
FtM or MtF?

>>94735290
I've honestly never seen a FtM getting angry about anything trans-related outside of not being accepted by gay men.

>>94733886


Genuinely funny. Send this to /fit/.

>>94735740
The body is much easier to understand than the brain. Advancements with technology like CRISPR and furthering stem cell research would probably lead to being able to completely restructure a body long before there'd be tech to rewrite the brain in any controlled fashion. Not to mention just the fact that stuff like CRISPR will have a lot more positive a reaction than basically trying to make "better electroshock therapy".

>>94734130
turn into a tranny and end up as another statistic by age 30

>>94735659
A mental illness is any thought or behavior pattern that leads to harm and suffering in the person with that thought or behavior pattern or others around them.

Being depressed is a mental illness because it inhibits your ability to function, leading to a lower quality of life.

Believing that you are the reincarnation of napoleon for example isn't necessarily a mental illness unless it interferes with your life (you demand people treat you like napolean, try to raise an army or whatever). If you keep those beliefs in check and still live a normal and functional life, it's no different than any other spiritual belief like believing in God, etc.

Being a transsexual is not automatically mental illness because there's a large amount of transsexuals who actually do live healthy, functional lives, have good careers, stable relationships etc. Wearing women's clothing and having hormones in normal female levels doesn't cause you commit suicide. Things like being rejected by family, inability to get a relationship, difficulty getting a job, being seen as a freak in public (not passing), being told to kill yourself constantly or thinking that you're statistically going to do so anyway, deep self hatred from being shamed or growing up in a religious household, etc. all contribute to depression, anxiety and suicide risk, and all commonly lead to self-destructive behaviors like promiscuous sex (disease) drug use, and self-harm as bad coping mechanisms, further increasing suicide risk.

In an 'ideal' situation, a transsexual is not mentally ill just by living as the opposite sex. That's why it's not automatically a mental illness.

>>94735786
Right, but the point is that it's still possible for them to stand in some manner. It's just not convenient for them to do so.

>>94735813
I know a couple FTMs. One is furious that they still get periods, though the other is so lucky as to have stopped getting them completely. They're both somewhat ostracized by their families, and one mostly gets called a dyke by relatives.

There are just a lot less visible FTMs.

>>94735737
>>94734827
It's sort of a hair plugs situation. You might wanna wait 30 years until they stop being a game of Russian roulette.

>>94735824
>Advancements with technology like CRISPR and furthering stem cell research would probably lead to being able to completely restructure a body long before there'd be tech to rewrite the brain in any controlled fashion.
It's already done, they were able to 3D prints ovaries recently and make them work.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/may/16/3d-printed-ovaries-allow-infertile-mice-to-give-birth
Not to mention the successful Uterus transplant that happended a few years ago and all the work in genetic therapy.

A complete transition will be possible in a few decades, if not earlier.
-Make stem cell
-Modify it to replace the X with the Y or vice versa
-Grew all the gendered organs and transplant them.

>>94735901
If you understand what chromosomes are and what function they play, there is absolutely no reason to change the chromosomes of a person from xy to xx

>>94733886
I mean when trans people aren't drawn like the disgusting mutants they look like in real life I can see scenarios like this being kinda cute. I like it.

>>94735859
>In an 'ideal' situation, a transsexual is not mentally ill just by living as the opposite sex. That's why it's not automatically a mental illness.
I do believe that some of the depression is cause with the Brain getting hormonal feedback from the gendered endocrine organs and, expecting hormonal feedback opposite gender, reacting badly to it.

But once again, the issue there is with the rest of the body.

>>94735920
It still can be done. Though I think for the reproductive organs, it still might be needed.

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>>94735935
Just focus on the lucky ones.

>>94734130
You'll be part of the 45% for sure!

>>94735901
That still won't fix the innate mental problems of transsexuals.

>>94735980
>Though I think for the reproductive organs, it still might be needed.

Why?

>>94734334

that's a little too subtle now.

>>94735996
The innate mental problem is the body not matching. So, if the body matches, then that's probably cleared.

>>94734069
>more toilets available because men have urinals
>have to undress more
>women often have to change pads/tampons etc.
>it's a social norm for women to go to the bathroom in groups more than men which means more people at the same time
Those are the reasons for the lines not having to sit to pee you moron.

>>94736005
For the To ensure only the meiose process result in an X.
and for the FtM to be able to produce Y chromosomes.

>>94735993
I wish it was that easy, I swear I'm not an asshole, if we could magically turn men into women and women into men then I would gladly call you whatever you wanted and treat you likewise. But as it stands I simply cannot. People are just messing with their bodies.

>>94735993
Doesnt the whole effectively reverse itself by the time they reach their 50s and they end up looking disgusting again?

>>94736029
We fucking wish it was that simple but nope, they are doing the reverse of what they should to be mentally stable.

>>94735996
It will. Since that will end up with a female brain actually being in a female body for FtM.

and a mel brain ina male body for FtM.

>>94736062
Changing the body is always going to be a lot simpler than trying to change the brain.

>>94736062
>identity death is better than altering the body
Ho do you reach that conclusion?

>>94736086
What if it isnt the brain? We have numerous reports of MtF with undiagnosed estrogen dominance who only discover after doing meds and thats easily fixable. Look at Cosmo for example, he went nuts only after using soy like it was water.

Out of curiosity, did OP actually start this thread for the comic or did they just want to have some trans discussion on /co/ and needed the slightest /co/ ice breaker to start it?

>>94736106
>identity ilness is better than altering the body
ftfy

>>94736179
Except it's proven to not be an illness and to actually be the brain not matching the body. If the exact same brain is put in a female body, then it result in a person with no issues.

>>94736123
You say numerous, but could you give some numbers here?

>>94736126
The latter

>>94736203
>If the exact same brain is put in a healty body, then it result in a person with no issues
Woow

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>>94736046
No, why would it?

>>94736203
>the brain not matching the body.
this is the stupidest crap i've read all day

>>94736203
What's your opinion on transabled people? Do you think doctors should be allowed to amputate healthy bodyparts if the patient feels that some of their limb(s) shouldn't be a part of them? I've sometimes seen people who accept transgenders but not the transabled, so I'm just wondering.

>>94736273
It's been proven. Trans brain are shown to be closer to their identified Gender.

>>94736287
Transsexual is the only kind of transanything that has evidence of being caused by biology

>>94736287
Are you saying being a woman is a disability?

>>94736254
what kind of black magic allowed them to get such a good transition so long ago? Hot damn.

>>94736287
>What's your opinion on transabled people? Do you think doctors should be allowed to amputate healthy bodyparts if the patient feels that some of their limb(s) shouldn't be a part of them?
There is no proven brain pattern distinction for those who are limbness, so no.

>>94736323
Probably starting early/blockers, or hitting the powerball on the genetic lottery.

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>>94736323
Just lucky with genetics

>>94733886
LOL! "Man"-lets, when will they learn?

>>94736208
You got me, fish spontaneously change sex to birth control pills but no study on humans even knowing its real. Closest you find is personal cases on forums.

>>94736303
>>94736325
If you guys were tolerant people, you would be fighting for the transabled now that they're considered weirdoes by the rest of the society, instead of joining their cause only after they'll some day manage to get the sort of bandwagon going that trans people currently have. Tolerance doesn't mean tolerating only what's socially acceptable, and shunning anything that isn't.

>>94736296
>Trans brain are shown to be closer to their identified Gender.
how can they be closer if they are both made of exactly the same shit

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>>94736439
Like this dummy

>>94736427
>being tolerant means you should believe in bullshit for no reason

>>94736439
Male and female brain are different, if only for the fact that the brain is also part of the endocrine system, regulating the hormones in the body; As the male and female body have different hormone system, the brain, who regulate it, must also be different.

>>94736439
Basically, neural pathways. Analysis of the brain shows different electrical activity in regions of the brain between different people, and there are common recurring patterns for each gender.

>>94736427
>If you guys were tolerant people, you would be fighting for the transabled now that they're considered weirdoes by the rest of the society
I like how your answer fail to adress the points you were answered.
I guess you had your counter agument ready for a different kind of answer but didn't want to see it go to waste.

>>94736449
So you admit that men and women are different on a genetic level and that it is possible to prove that one sex (Men, duh) is inherently superior to the other?

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>>94736536
>and that it is possible to prove that one sex (Men, duh) is inherently superior to the other?
You jumped too far on that conclusion.

Two things being different doesn't mean one is better than the other.

>>94736449
So what if it's different in men and women? What does it actually do? What functions does it have that are exclusive to one gender?

>>94736536
>So you admit that men and women are different on a genetic level
Are you a moron?

>that it is possible to prove that one sex (Men, duh) is inherently superior to the other?
Men are better at certain things, women are better at some things too.

>>94736496
>i have a male brain that knows how to regulate a male body but i somehow ended with a female body because why not
this is what mentally ill people actually believe

>>94736569
The supreme court's ruling against segregation disagrees. Separate but equal is inherently unequal.

>>94736496
And what does it mean if the brains are different? We've been trying to break free from traditional gender roles so hard. Why are you trying to bring back this idea that guys and girls must look visually different? Or that guys who feel like girls have to look like girls, instead of just accepting their body and being happy with themselves as they are?

>>94736518
I just don't particularly feel like arguing when I see people bring up biology as an argument against transabled. LGBT folks constantly get slammed for being "unnatural" and fighting against their own biology. So if trans supporters are using the same arguments against another group and not realizing their own hypocrisy, there's not much I can say to that.
BIID is a real body dysmorphic disorder, and you're ignoring the plight of people with it.

>>94736591
Is that really any more ridiculous than being born with an immune system that attacks itself because why not?

>>94736599
How is it possible to be this retarded

>>94736584
Still to early to tell.

Even more so that the brain is quite versatile and you have to label functions to area iwith the utmost care, as it has been seen before that even a damaged brain can relocate functions to parts they usually aren't, meaning that those allocation are in no way exclusive nor definitive.

>>94736620
The supreme court said that separate but equals is inherently unequal. That means that in the eyes of the government, one gender must be inherently superior to the other since by your own admission, male and female brains are different. Therefore, you are advocating that one gender is superior to the other.

>>94736599
>Separate but equal is inherently unequal.
Separate but equal isn't the same notion as different but equal.

Well tried.

>>94736536
I don't think you're old enough to be here. First of all there is no "genetic" difference, the difference is in chromosomes you idiot. It means that there are minor statistical differences that are possible to detect with specialized equipment. Differences doesn't mean one is superior to the other, though there are statistically different areas they tend to be better at. Men are statistically stronger while women statistically are better at social interactions. That doesn't mean women can't be autistic fucks and men can't be weak or that the opposite never happens. In the end the differences on individual level are minimal and things like upbringing and genetics have far more influence over that. But the minor differences can cause that person discomfort and since mental health is fairly fragile even in the best circumstances it can cause a person to feel wrong.

>>94736662
Yeah, so why treat that one thing as some dead give-away or a valid proof?

>>94735702
>2012
>2006
>2001
>1980
>1964
No, the real answer is 1920. In the US at least.

>>94736668
Yes you dumb fuck, men are superior at a lot of things and women are superior at things as well. We're not talking about legal rights and status we're talking about biological properties.

>>94736617
Who the fuck is "we"? Men and women are better suited for different roles in society based on their biology.

>>94735290
>That's because FtM trannies are usually fairly well adjusted compared to MtF trannies.
Whoa there, MtF are extra crazy, but let's not sit here and pretend that ANY tranny is well-adjusted.

>>94736719

Terrible parents, discussing a brutal murder and using foul language in front of an infant.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

>>94736637
>>94736719
Can't tell if this is satire or not

>>94734130
Let me guess:
You are shy/awkward with women or socially inept. Am I right?

>>94736617
>And what does it mean if the brains are different? We've been trying to break free from traditional gender roles so hard. Why are you trying to bring back this idea that guys and girls must look visually different?
Male and female brain being different is in no way bearing the imperative that men and women must look different. There is no correlation to be made there.

>Or that guys who feel like girls have to look like girls, instead of just accepting their body and being happy with themselves as they are?
Gender is part of the identity of a person and they have the right to express it. Proving that when someone consider "I should have a penis" has biology to back it up does in no way impose a look to someone. Quite the oppsoite, actually, as it legitmate their desire to look the way they perceive they should have, instead of having societty telling them they should not try to identify as the opposite gender.

>I just don't particularly feel like arguing when I see people bring up biology as an argument against transabled.
Biology simply tell what there is.
>LGBT folks constantly get slammed for being "unnatural" and fighting against their own biology.
Excpet it's not he case Bilogy actually prove Trans are correct in perceiving themselves as having the opposite gender.
>trans supporters are using the same arguments against another group and not realizing their own hypocrisy, there's not much I can say to that.
>biology support transexual
>biology doesn't supporttransabled
>therefore using biology is hypocrite.
I do'nt think you understand how logic work.

ou tried to attempt an argument that no one made in the first place. You just couldn't help but use it anyway.

>>94736686
Because the pattern is consistent enough to do so.

>>94736859
>Excpet it's not he case Bilogy actually prove Trans are correct in perceiving themselves as having the opposite gender.
Where does it prove that that specific part of the brain makes you feel a man or a woman?

>>94736637
I hope he got some deep deep dicking.

>>94736890
if your neurons are pink and wear hairbows then your brain is female
duh

I'm a male to female transsexual, ask me anything

>>94736584
>What functions does it have that are exclusive to one gender?
At least on the endocrine level, the male brain is part of the regulation of the hormonal system of the male body and the female brain is part of the regulation of the hormonal system of the female body

>>94736913
When are you going to commit suicide?

>>94736890
Men who identify as female have systematically the same brain pattern than the one women who identify as women have.

>>94736938
Came pretty close when I was younger but once I started transitioning things have just gotten better and better for me. I don't think there's a realistic chance of me ever killing myself.

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>>94736913
What do you think of Cis people whose fetish is TG transformation?

>>94736913
This>>94736938

>>94737001
I don't think anything of it. You can't help what you get off to, as long as your fetish doesn't hurt people nonconsentually it's ok with me.

>>94736637
Why are all gender dysphoria webcomics pretty much the same bullshit about how "Cis people are so mean" no matter how nice they try acting and character that is essentially a self insert of the author and the only "Voice of reason", unless there happens to be another dumb token gender character? Even fucking vidya webcomics have more variety.

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>>94737001

>>94737023
>Why are all gender dysphoria webcomics pretty much the same bullshit about how "Cis people are so mean"
Gee, I dunno. Maybe there is some exterior causes that could be investigated?

>>94733885
Invented by a man right?

>>94737023
>Why are all gender dysphoria webcomics pretty much the same bullshit about how "Cis people are so mean"

>do i have a mental illness?
>neh, it's EVERYBODY ELSE who is wrong
>especially mum and dad
every trannie comic ever

>>94736449
If you pump a man full of estrogen and test blockers of course their brain is going to change.

Biological sign is only useful in a predictive sense. Not a measure of what's going on at the moment

>>94737023
It's almost as if they were using their comic to express the adversity they encounter in real life, or as a power fantasy in answer to a feeling of suppression.

>>94737079
You're not doing much to counteract the "Cis people are so mean" thing here.

>>94736913
why is your species more annoying and bitchy than that of cis women and why do you want to invade every goddamn space of /lgbt/ ??

>>94733965
underrated

>>94737064
>exterior causes
The Vindicators should have destroyed Israel when they had the chance.

>>94734130
Welcome to 4chan!
Where everyone is a niggerfaggotcommienaziSJW!
As far as we are concerned, you lost by showing your no face around here.

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>>94733886
That's funny.

>>94734334
All you did was remove the context.

>>94734130
Train hard and become a hero. That's the only transition you should make.

>>94735628
Why do they never shave? There was a trans person on my school bus back in highschool and whenever I shaved I looked twice the girl he was trying to be.

>>94737023
Most webcomics are about the same boring crap. The only difference is that there's less variation to this particular subject.

>>94734130
Nobody here knows what the fuck they're talking about for the most part so don't fucking ask us.
Find someone qualified like a therapist that other trans people would recommend and then ask them.

>>94737201
I can't remember where I read this but some trans people find the idea of just doing a complete 180 in terms of appearance right away to be overwhelming, so sometimes they'll pick and choose what do to make them look/feel more like their preferred gender.

>>94737001
>>94737029
It's the best

>>94737238
Men shave too though.

>>94733821
Reminds me of that time a friend of mine got his dick kicked off by metal during a soccer game when he was like 7 years old.

>>94737238
That's interesting I guess, still seems like a weird choice to make

>>94734465
The Eunuch Quill vs. The Chad Detachable Penis.

>>94734130
Seek therapy and find yourself a good doctor. If you had any other disease or mental illness, this would be just about the only suggestion you'd receive. Feeling disenfranchised with your body isn't some special snowflake affliction that requires you to submit and restructure your entire life around it. It's an illness, and needs to be treated as such. You wouldn't tell someone with Schizophrenia to "JUST BE YOURSELVES! ;D" when it's obvious this ailment will have a significant negative impact on their lives.

>>94737257
What? Like he lost his dick? Full sotry?

>>94737335
Fuck I forget to add it got kicked off by a metal cleat.

Way he described it there was nothing left just goo and shit.

>>94737238
>paying someone to mutilate your reproductive organs is okay
>but shaving is just too overwhelming

>>94737360
That's terrifying. So he has nothing there?

>>94737201
They’re mentally unhinged, that's why.

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>>94737360
was his balls still in tact and was he able to go through puberty normally?

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>>94737429
Thanks

>>94737370
I imagine people who don't shave don't do that.

>>94737442
Nothing, he didn't go through puberty.

>try to have a LOL thread
>/co/mblr just rambles on and on about how they're all a bunch of mentally ill trannies

>>94737370
Not every trans person has a surgery.

>>94737470
It actually turned into an interesting conversation.

>>94737502
Then what's the point?

>>94736029
>>94736076
No, it won't. Because "body not matching the brain" is not the actual problem they have. It's merely a symptom of much larger, underlying mental health issues.

>>94736040
None of this disproves the original point, honey.

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I'm probably going to generate a huge shitstorm for posting this, but...

>>94737517
you get to be an ultra special snowflake on the internets

>>94737518
>Because "body not matching the brain" is not the actual problem they have.
this is exactly the problem they have.
>It's merely a symptom of much larger, underlying mental health issues
It's not a mental illness.

>>94737533
I'm sure it's supposed to be a metaphor, but I don't get it.

>>94734130
See a psychiatrist

>>94737533
Nutters gonna nut

>>94737565
>It's not a mental illness.
Explain why their suicides rates are so high then.

>>94733886
In the context of the comic that joke's not bad. It's kinda boring and not laugh out loud hilarious but it's fine. It's something /a/ fags would call "comfy."

>>94737533
I like the 5th panel.
>>94737543
How many here think that "snowflake" is a valid complain? Like, who actually get mad at that?

>>94735290

Pretty sure that's because most FtM trannies are real trannies, while most MtF ""trannies"" are just autistic weebs who watched too much anime and want to be the little girl

>>94736719
Shmorky is the worst

>>94735804
Ftm. Kinda. I have an (online) boyfriend who says he likes me the way I am but I still want top surgery. I think breasts are useless chest additions that only get in the way.

>>94737568
It's not really so much a metaphor as much as it's something the artist actually believes happened to them

http://jenniverse.com/impossible%20things%20rainsymphony.html

>>94737533
I have a super power too. It's when I stand in a big book store, reading some stuff. Usually, employee wear uniforms, there. But almost inevitably, there will alwas be someon asking me for help and assume I work there. Despite giving no indication of working or not even having clothes that look like the uniform.

Somehow, if I stand long enough, I am able to fool people into assuming that I work there.

It's passive, though and have no control over it, but it kick in rather frequently.

I never said it was useful. But it's real.

>>94737656
I could use some bigger useless chest additions myself.

>>94737601
Wrong hormonal feedback, female brain receive the hormone feedback of a male body and it mess up with it, causing depression. Hormonal therapy improve this.

>>94737660
You know, I am ready to give her the benefit of the doubt. She just had a good grasp of perceiving when a lighter was going to struck and pointed right before, as it being unconscious, she assumed she was the one doing this.

>>94736591
Are they better at anything important though?
And becore you say being a single parent, thats not true.
https://www.thespruce.com/single-parent-census-data-2997668

>>94737777
Was meant for
>>94736588
Also
>quads

>>94737533
>Homer sleeps nude in an oxygen tent he believes gives him sexual powers

>>94733821
>detachable penis

>>94737116
This

>>94737116
I don't really think I'm a complainer

>why do you want to invade every goddamn space of /lgbt/
I don't even know what this means. What are lgbt spaces and how am I invading them?

>>94737744
Or, more likely, she's fallen victim to confirmation bias and natural memory erasure
All the times she failed to predict lightning she's forgotten because childhood memories have shit reliability.

>>94737828
No him, but there is an /lgbt/ board on 4chan. I don't go there, but maybe most of the trheads are about trans?

>>94737601
The same reason homosexual suicide rates are higher outside states that had legalized gay marriage and cultivated a more accepting culture, because being rejected by society is fucking depressing.

>>94735248
that's a 10

>>94737869
Most of the threads are about trans stuff, because there's dramatically more to discuss when it comes to trans topics. If the board was just LGB it would be the deadest, slowest board on 4chan, and it's already fairly slow even with T being 90% of the threads

>>94737869
But I find this discussion somewhat interesting and I have zero reason to go there, and I don't care about the subject enough to actually look for any discussion or information on my own.

>>94733886
I liked this. Then you get shit like >>94736637 and you realize how easily the fringe elements of any group degrade the perception of the whole.

>>94734130
The problem is you're saying you -have- it. Self-diagnosis is a pretty bad sign of things to come, in that you have an idea set in your mind and you might go out and only seek opinions that verify this. Beware of people that only give you the answers you seek, and especially those that do it without even the slightest bit of investigation or challenging.

>>94737687
I have a much better power. When I'm at work, people don't realize I work there and don't bother me.

>>94737938
What's so wrong about the second comic

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>>94737938
>and you realize how easily the fringe elements of any group degrade the perception of the whole.
That's what I don't get.
Don't most people know better by now than to let themselves degrade the perception of whoever based on a fucking webcomic of all things?

>>94733934
>encouraged

*forced under threat of death

>>94737714
Wrong. Because the rate is the same in pre op and post op, treatment or no treatment.

>>94737881
>b-b-because people are mean
Not an argument.

>>94734021
The whole Iranian women soccer team are mtf transsexuals.

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>>94735227
>Not shoving your penis in everyone else's face to establish dominance over them

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>>94738015
>h-h-h-here's my strawman
No, anon, it is you who don't have the argument.
Here's an article relating to the gay marriage = fewer gay suicide phenomenon that I referred to:
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2604258
When "people being mean" can mean your life becomes ruined and your future becomes worthless, yeah, it can fucking lead to suicide, you stupid chode.

>>94738015
>Wrong. Because the rate is the same in pre op and post op, treatment or no treatment.
Source
>>b-b-because people are mean
>Not an argument.
>abusive environment can't lead people to suicide
How is this not an argument?

>>94738015
>Because the rate is the same in pre op and post op, treatment or no treatment.

You're actively wrong. We even already had this discussion >>94735034

>>94738015
>Wrong. Because the rate is the same in pre op and post op, treatment or no treatment.
I can guarantee that you misread the article that led you to believe that.

>>94733960
That's bullshit. They just have to spread a bit more and push their hips forwards. It's less convenient than shimming your shorts down or pulling an zipper and ripping away

>>94738102
Look up John Hopkin's stance on SRS. They don't do it anymore precisely because of that bit of data.
I'm inclined to believe THE most prestigious hospital in the world

>>94738060
>>94738067
>>94738073
>>94738102
>trannies getting this butthurt over facts

And they say /co/mblr isn't real

>>94735901
>delusional tranny falling for fake studies
Nigger most work with genetic engineering is 40 years off at least. You know how many mice die to get one that doesn't die immediately with cloned organs? This shit won't be on the market until the threshold for death or illness is below 3%.

>>94733886
When will they learn

>>94738126
John Hopkins stance is that SRS doesn't cure gender dysphoria.

Everyone with a brain already knows that. SRS is not a treatment to gender dysphoria. The treatment to gender dysphoria is transition, which reduces the chance of suicide.

>why do people get SRS then
Because for some people, it's a part of their transition. Just one optional step you can take if you think it might help

>>94738128
You're not providing facts, you're providing your opinions without even showing the facts that led you to form them.
>>94738126
http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bal-johns-hopkins-transgender-20170406-story.html
You're a little out of date.
Again. Provide that data. I guarantee you don't know what you're talking about.

>>94737983
Sorry, I'm having a 'I can't into english' moment here and don't want to make a post that misses the point. Are you asking if the viewer should know better than to let their perceptions change based on what they read, or the author should know better than to create content that will make others have negative feelings about a group?

Both would be fair statements, but I feel like the latter holds the higher responsibility.

>>94734130
Listen to River-side but pretend the song is about looking into a drainage canal or something

>>94738128
nice try

>>94738126
>They don't do it anymore
First off, they stopped in the 70s.
Second, they started doing it again last year.

>>94733934
That's only half true. You forgot the part where trans people are still only allowed to have relations with other compatible trans people or it's still a crime.

>>94738188
>Are you asking if the viewer should know better than to let their perceptions change based on what they read
Yeah. I mean. Isn't that something every parent teaches their kid? Isn't it in every afterschool special? Especially on the internet, aren't there a million opportunities to learn you don't judge a whole group based on a couple of people?

>>94738126
It's not "the same pre op and post op", it's just still much higher than the rate for the general population. It's like 25% of the pre-op rate though.