JSA Storytime: Omega the Unknown

>>94723059
Holy fuck just the cover and this already looks like the greatest comic ever.

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>>94723059
probably no /d/lectro tonight

I love this comic so much.

I think James-Michael is kind of like taking Ditko's version of Peter Parker to the next level. Except I guess James-Michael isn't as douchey.

That Carol thread is comfy

OP a fag! A FAG!

/co/ has had better ideas for Carol in one thread than DC has ever had >>94714969

I'm sure several of us saw/are posting in that thread already, but just in case

>>94723114
I recognized Cranky instantly.

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>>94723110
hi sugartits

this narration really makes you stop and read

so many words

>>94723114
No one fucking cares about Calol Faggis, get it through.

>>94723142
dat ass in panel 3

>>94723059
Hello, Storyteller.

To be fair to this cover, cats are wretched little bastards when they want to be. Fuck you, Tim.

Well we finally got Mystik U after 2 years
>>94714059
>>94714059

And a new Moon knight book
>>94717712
>>94717712

>>94723172
I love how I had to eat my own words after saying we'd never get it a few JSA threads back

>>94723172
I don't know how I feel about "female superhero goes to college" becoming so prevalent lately.

>>94723196
You're learning to master the sigil in reverse, Dave. That's like 12th level magyck.

>>94723198
This at least feels like it's one of their attempts at an evergreen trade, so the writing might be more co-ordinated.

>>94723196
Dave pls say we'll definitely get Hickman LOSH so it won't actually happen

>>94723172
Mystik U is the stupidest fucking name I've ever seen for a Big Two series lately.

>>94723198
I want like fucking weird Mystik U with obscure oddball characters but I'm a realist and understand that would sell even less than this will. It all sounds a bit Harry Potter but if it manages to sustain like a Gotham Academy level of quality then it'll likely be a pleasant enough book.

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>>94723142
>>94723172
holy crap, Mystik U lives???

>>94723198
It'll be less trivializing than America, for sure

>>94723172
Bemis did the new Foolkiller right? he sounds like a great fit for Moon Knight

>>94723227
We'll never gets Hickman L.E.G.I.O.N

>>94723233
It's a 3 issue mini with prestige format so it'll sell about as bad as the Deadman one did lol

>>94723245
Aye, and Burrows doing a big two book pretty much confirms that Avatar Press is over.

Otherwise they'd have something for him.

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>>94723233
It's just three issues, so it's basically a trade book, bi-monthly too

CHEST

>>94723172
Mystik U finally being released is just really something else. I thought it was long dead.

>>94723271
Was there anything else announced for the Dark Line way back when? Or was that just it?

>>94723285
Dark Universe was the other one

>>94723300
Maybe that's Hickman's game.

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>>94723263
The first word we hear him say is 'why'

philosophy~

>>94723271
>Batman Europa
>Batman Creature of the Night
>Wonder Woman Earth One/Trial of Diana Prince
>Mystik U

Ok but when will ASBAR, king of comics that will never be finished or released, finally be freed from its prison

>>94723142
I love the philosophical and hippie shit they were getting away with in the mid 70's. Gerber, Starlin, Englehart, McGregor, they were literally just dropping LSD and roaming around nighttime NYC pitching story ideas back and forth, or sitting the stairwells smoking pot.

>>94723258
RIP

>>94723172
>Well we finally got Mystik U after 2 years
Sounds pretty lame tbqh. Would've preferred Zatanna as a teacher with Klarion, Tim Hunter, Jakeem Thunder, Misty etc as students. maybe I'm just salty because that Klarion mini didn't just get shitcaned at 6 but had a "The End?" at the end and then didn't even get collected in trade. Fucking DC.

>>94723300
That was basically just Justice League Dark IIRC so it'll happen when the movie happens

The only downside to MU is that I was hoping it would be current young heroes attending and not a flashback, but Faust sounds like best boy so I can't complain

>>94723318
Vertigo, but Seaguy Eternal is the other one I'm waiting on

>>94723304
Jesus Christ please have mercy

Evening storyteller. Have you seen the Ivy League's newest meltdown yet?

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>>94723306
>>94723318
Don't forget HERO DENIED

oh man, that book, of all books

>>94723364
pls share

>>94723347
Yeah, I was hoping for current heroes too.

>>94723344
Wonder if they'll use some of JMD's concepts again. Traci 13's Brother was a pretty neat character.

>>94723364
I saw King trying to get people to stop bullying them, but I missed whatever set them off in the first place

>>94723243
I really want to see what people were saying about this book at the time. I mean, this is before Tommy Westphall or anything.

>>94723341
Klarion was at the time the lowest selling book other than maybe that early new 52 book that got shitcanned at 3 issues

Can't blame DC for not doing the trade, especially since it was clearly Nocenti containment

And speaking of NOCENTI, she has a book with Aja over at Karen Bergers imprint

>>94723347
Cameron Stewart is such a fucking piece of shit.

>>94723369
>Don't forget HERO DENIED

Have you read the latest yet?

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>>94723364
That was fucking amazeballs

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>>94723370

>>94723258
Does BleedingCool die with them?

>>94723198

Hey it wasn't me this time!

>>94723364
On the Discourse note one of the prominent insane Spencer critics went at Sarah Horrocks in a display of pretty much straight up trolling.

It reminded me very much of that YA fandom article.

>>94723392
Now this is autism.

>>94723372
>Wonder if they'll use some of JMD's concepts again
Doubt it, his Phantom Stranger is most likely already retconed too. Too bad.

>>94723394
BleedingCool might be sold off if not, maybe just become Top 15 list husk like CBR

>>94723392
>feminist icon
I can think of like 20 billion female characters more deserving of this title than Ivy lol

>>94723399
Which one? There are a lot of unhinged people going after Spencer.

>>94723392
Who is Ian?

>>94723364
links pls

>>94723378
Nah, I think Forever People was selling worse. Still, both of them didn't even get trades, that's just... so shitty. Why does DC take so much pleasure in crapping on the little man?
>And speaking of NOCENTI, she has a book with Aja over at Karen Bergers imprint
I'm excited

>>94723392
Hey at least she isn't as upset at the Harley/Batman movie as Dickfags are

>>94723409
Dang, you're right about it being too bad.

>>94723439
Forever People not getting a trade still stings.

>>94723378

Aja's return to comics apparently

>tfw they had a story in a Daredevil black and white one shot and it was a fucking text piece

Marvel trolled me good

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>>94723382
I haven't gone to my LCS because I've been working

probably Monday when I'm off

>>94723399
okay I gotta see this

>>94723392
>a shitposter on the internet has this much power
comics were a mistake

>>94723439
Fucking Didio himself did Infinity Man, if he couldn't get the trade made, sales projections must have been in the triple digits or less.

>>94723439
>excited for shit writing

For what purpose.

Also I'm curious as to how much that imprint will sell.
On one hand, people have been moaning that Vertigo is dead, but on the other, Image is one thing that caused it to be dead in the first place and could cause Bergers Books to die too.

>>94723422
https://twitter.com/IRossICampbell/status/898039114183962625

Also unreal:

https://twitter.com/Inkfacefahz/status/898044107582570496

>>94723449
Dickfags are right to be mad over Timm's shitty OC touching their husbando

>>94723392
>Poison Ivy
>feminist icon
Someone please show this idiot that page of Waller calling Ivy out on her bullshit.

>>94723453
Yeah, that Phantom Stranger run was so lovely. DeMatteis and Blanco worked together so damn well. But much like JMD's Spectre, the casual comic book reading crow hate the very concept of the books.

>>94723485
Dick is a slut and made to be raped though.

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>>94723457
Oh HIM, I haven't even read it yet and I know it'll be good

How come there is never this level of shitpostijg for good. I could be twitter famous for spamming Legion!!

Says the guy who feels bad tweeting Snyder twice about the Metal Men in Metal

>>94723459
Sometimes you feel really bad for people you suspect are vulnerable, y'know?

>>94723478
I like Nocenti.

>>94723470
It's a shame, I wonder what it could have done if it hadn't had to be a containment book for Godhead's stupider shit.

>>94723495
Blanco was awesome on it.
And overall, they did the Judas thing better than anyone expected.

>>94723478
>Nocenti
>shit writing
Pick one.

>>94723479
Campbell is fucking nuts. Half the time I don't even understand what the fuck he is trying to say.

>>94723494

Waller's a better more feminist character fwiw

>>94723380
perhaps, he draws gud tho

>>94723304
>Dark Universe
>Hickman

May the lord save your soul if those are thoughts that taint your mind, Dave.

Hard question though:
Who would you pick to write Dark Universe?

>>94723544
Tynion was originally on it, I'd take Hickman over him

>>94723558
How has Tynion's writing of Zatanna over at 'Tec been?

Is she shit, Batman's cock sleeve, etc?

>>94723449
any good Dick salt?

>>94723519
>And overall, they did the Judas thing better than anyone expected.
Definitely. I find myself loving it more than his usual """mysterious""" angle despite the fact that I'm a long time Phantom Stranger fan. Loved Zauriel in it too. Blanco has looked good with every colorist he's worked so far but Brad Anderson+Blanco was my favorite so far.

>>94723544
As much as I like JMD, his JLD wasn't great either.

Priest? Just someone new to take a crack at it.

>>94723392
Holy kek

>>94723479
Christ this fucking shit.

Horrocks was right on the money about people just wanting to shoehorn whatever the trendy outrage of the day is into comics.

I read the first two issues of the American Way sequel, and boy would there be SO MUCH shitposting if anyone else on the board was actually reading it.
Turns out racial politics in the 1960s and 1970s were not an easy thing to deal with

>>94723541
Yeah but he's an obnoxious person and the sole reason why we don't have Seaguy Eternal. He's an unreliable prick, he also bailed on the western issue of Return of Bruce Wayne at the last minute and we got stuck with a shit fill in.

>>94723530
The whole "You're wrong for what I believe you are saying, but I don't have to define what that is" is legitimately nuts. Same deal with the other guy being given art tips he asked for and perceiving it as bragging. Both of them subtweeting while having this conversation too.

>>94723544
>Dark Universe
Shit name. Just get me Shadowpact. No more JLD shittery, no more Constantine and Zatanna.

>>94723479
Did twitter make itself worse again lately? Now when I try to scroll up tweet chains it randomly loads other tweets instead

>>94723519
>It's a shame, I wonder what it could have done if it hadn't had to be a containment book for Godhead's stupider shit.
I'm glad there are nicer Kirby books coming out now to balance out Godhead 2

>>94723614
I think it's just linked really badly.

>>94723578
Priest would be a disaster. JLD is a terrible idea and editorial were very shitty and wanted it to literally be Justice League with pew pew magic lasers so there was no hope.

>>94723614
I enjoyed the Orion special so much to weather through Venditti's shit like "Old Genesis"

>>94723414
There are people that seriously consider psychopathic characters as idols. You don't realize how many people consider Harley a feminist icon and it's revolting.
Goddamn I sound like Fag Landis.

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>>94723609
Campbell's a big ol subtweeter which was funny when he dueled with the writer of Astro City because he's not nearly as good at it

>>94723536
Oh by far. Overweight, older, hardassed control freak bitch who was designed to be unattractive specifically to show she got her position through competence, not looks.

Damn, Nu52 Waller was SHIT. What kind of cocaine were they snorting to think making The Wall a skinny supermodel was a good idea?

>>94723611
>no more Constantine and Zatanna
10k by issue 2

>>94723630
That was a good issue, plus I really liked the Sandman special too

Next week's Manhunter special sounds promising too, I've been surprised at the quality of these so far

>>94723650
>Mystik U.jpg

>>94723652
Gettin' high off the Movie Pitch dollar signs in their eyes.

>>94723663
As oppssed to 15k? Those characters aren't huge sellers anyway. Shitting on them for a few k buys is terrible.

>>94723674
Aye, I can understand people not liking the Newsboy Legion/Boy Commandos one - but Big Words doing his shtick with the kid who spoke cockney was brilliant. I chuckled no shame.

Manhunter does sound promising, can't wait to read it.

>>94723650
It just seems impossible that he's acting like that and pretending it's in good faith.

>>94723652

Even in ReGirth I've noticed artists prettying her up

>>94723674
>>94723699
There's a Manhunter special?

Which one?

>>94723697
JLD was above 20k-25k for for the entire run tho

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>>94723709
I mean, he's sincere about how angry he is about the book, but that leads you weird places

Okay sorry for that interlude, now back to comics, and this chick has a hell of a story

>>94723742
The one from the 40's.

Looks like the GL ones.

>>94723650
>writer of Astro City
Kurt Busiek?

>>94723742
Paul Kirk, he was the Kirby creation

Didio and Giffen are doing a story, issue is out next week

>>94723732
There was that one issue where she legitimately looked like a black Squirrel Girl

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>>94723762
he doth grep for his name

>>94723801
At this rate, I'm even excited for Hudlin's Black Racer.

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>>94723813
chem lab.jpg

>>94723652
>What kind of cocaine were they snorting to think making The Wall a skinny supermodel was a good idea?
Because that's actually representative of women in power for this generation? They probably did it to make her hot but that's how the upper management women in corporate world look like. Waller was counter hegemonic to the male predominant hierarchy of corporate/political system in 80s and I do stand by DC's choice to make Waller a supermodel when they rebooted.

>>94723813
He vanity searches, really? he doesn't seem the type.

>>94723754

I'm pretty convinced 95% of Secret empire rage is people mad at the world and attacking a comic for release

Yes I'm obvious man

>>94723846

Counterpoint Vixen does that better

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>>94723854
He has an alert for his name on Twitter, I know, because he sometimes talks about other Busieks out there

>>94723846

I don't think that was the approach/intention or what came across in the text

OP, have you seen the Zemo lewds already?

>>94723846
Waller's supposed to be old.

>>94723878
I can't believe Omega the Unknown is going to have to kill every motherfucker in this school. Brutal.

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>>94723894
no!

>>94723846
>incredibly hot women in positions of power is representative of real world norms
Anon, what kind of cocaine are YOU snorting?

>>94723894
WHERE

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>>94723921
Letters page!

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>>94723640
I feel like at least with Harley it's partially ironic I guess? Self-aware? Or at least it seems like most people like her because she is a bad person not because they're delusional.

>>94723961
Rodney S. Nelis is my man.

>>94723861
Not to be Old Man Yelling At Cloud but it's basically the political fervor we always see with college age kids mixing with the pop culture obsession we have currently.

I laugh out loud when something important politically happens and immediately I see tweets comparing it to Star Wars.

>>94723861
>Counterpoint Vixen does that better
I'm not saying it was written well, just that I can see how it could've resonated with the audience if they played it right.
>>94723880
I think the clear reflection of how Waller operated earlier in the new 52 resembles Maria Hill which I think was the clear inspiration and writing was never good, I won't deny that. But there had to have been a single editor that thought what I'm thinking when I see new 52 Waller. I think it is a very good justification as well. It didn't work out which is a shame.
>>94723899
Yeah, when she was conceptualized in the 80s, she had to be old, her being old told a tale in and of itself. New Waller didn't have to be.
>>94723930
Look at the fiction of this era and of 80s.

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>>94723965
Ahhhh, J-fandom

>>94723977
Right, a lot of people who like Harley enjoy the fantasy of doing wacky shit with no consequences

>>94723930
Have you worked in corporate world ma dude?

>>94723977
I really don't know if Tumblr audience calling her feminist icon is supposed to be ironic. A fair amount of it is definitely.

>>94723977

Yeah she's still a villain. I mean it's not like the punisher or uh I'd say Magog but he isn't popular

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>>94724000

>>94723990

The best Star Wars shit was people getting mad that people were saying the Empire is based off Nazis

>>94723059
Wait, when did Dr Strange move into an alley with an army of cats?

Coming in late.

>>94724032
From my secret contacts within Tumblr by which I mean "acquaintances who use Tumblr" the social justice cult there hates Harley and people who call her feminist, too.

There's a myth that Tumblr just loves all this stupid shit but they hate literally everything just like /co/. It's the same kind of "I'm better than you because I don't like popular thing" mentality as here, just a race to be more woke than everyone else instead of more elitist.

>>94724063
The fuck. Their soldiers are literally called "stormtroopers"

>>94723996
>fiction
Which is exactly that, fiction.

>>94724013
Don't have to to know that you're full of shit.

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>>94724059
print this page out, senpai

>>94724092
Tumblr is also the world's greatest misinformation mill

>>94724063
My favorite part about the more unhinged Spencer critics is that at least one of them stans for Kylo Ren and Phasma

>>94723104
>Except I guess James-Michael isn't as douchey.

Helps to not be created by a Randroid I guess.
Man... how was Norman Osborn, a brilliant selfmade industrialist, even a villain to Ditko?

>>94723142
The farther we get into this, the more baffling it is that Marvel ever tried to revive the character.

It's so Gerber. The only use of it that makes sense is having Simon Williams play him in the movie version. ... Which, thinking of it, would probably reconcile /d/lectro with Electro.

>>94724122
Weird hair, hrrrrrm.

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>>94724119
"Bad people like HYDRA shirts therefore they were inspired by Nicky's book" is some logic that goes astonishing places if you extend it out

>>94724092
I think when it comes to tumblr, there's diversity. You definitely have normal users, then the stereotype audience and the shitposters as well. People only think of the stereotypes when they think of tumblr. Kind of how all of 4chan is grouped with the /pol/ and GG audience.

>>94724122
Him being a villain was the final straw that made Ditko quit, actually. Before that Norman was a barely seen character and the relationship between him and Harry had been brought up in passing a few times, didn't start to really explore it until the first John Romita issue after Ditko left, where the Norman Osborn reveal also was.

Ditko wanted Peter to be even MORE of an asshole and actively get upset about campus protests and other things his fellow youths were doing, Lee didn't want to alienate their customer base and would rewrite his dialogue behind his back.

>>94724119
But Phasma is a lady wearing armor so obviously she's awesome!

>>94723596
I know what you mean, that last issue felt like it was written in the last two days.
It sucks to see how everyone seems to be doing so much worse a decade into the future.

>>94723263
NEW CAPTAIN AMERICAN PHYSIQUE

>>94724171

The "oh are those the shirts to promote secret empire" shit was gross.

also when is someone gonna bring back Levianthian to be the alternate to HYDRA.

>>94724103
>Don't have to to know that you're full of shit.
Not hot women, but women of 30 or 40 do come in power position easier today and seen often then 20 years ago. I know that because I've dealt with that shit, you wouldn't know because you are a fucking 20 year faggot who has no sense of reality or worse, a faggot who has never worked a job in his life.

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>>94724166
There's a second series which is a weird remix by Lethem/Dalrymple

>>94724191
A friend is reading Silver Age Marvel including ASM and is surprised at just how much like incel nerd rage there is to early PP

>>94724220

Tfw your sequel headcanon is she leaves the empire to become an amoral bounty hunter

>>94724273
>tfw you don't give a single fuck about new star wars

>>94724220
Phasma was fucking useless though. If lady in armor=awesome, go play a Metroid game.

... In fact, specifically play Other M, then you'll have something legitimately awful to bitch about. About seven years of rage, in fact.

>>94724248
One of the more enjoyable use of both Hydra and the von Struckers was in some early nineties comics where the twins feuded with their brother Werner over which branch of Hydra is the true one.

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>>94724296
IAWTC

>mfw leading women were Scarlet Witch and Valkyrie

>>94723479
bless Sarah for not falling into that mess

>>94724300
I don't personally care about Star Wars or Phasma, I'm just illuminating the logic behind people who do like her

>>94724191
>Ditko wanted Peter to be even MORE of an asshole
Would've been for the best.

>>94724303
I do miss the twins being truly depraved eurotrash.

>>94724310
Marvel fucked up hard with Wanda. Fuck Byrne and fuck Bendis.

>>94724343
Ditko probably wanted Peter to be of objectivist meme, would have been better, right?

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>>94724344
I feel no shame admitting that the kink dynamic in New Thunderbolts was some idfic shit for me

>>94724363
so much time as a leading woman and they pooped on her so hard, for what

>>94724363
>tfw all the best marvel ladies are X men

WHY is there no X Women book

>>94724384
Nah, just a bit of an asshole.

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>>94724396
Why was A-Force so anodyne

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>>94724417

>>94724261
Did the same a few months back and really fell in love with the depiction because how much you could sense it was Ditko channeling his own feelings and life into it.

It's a big part of the reason I recommended Omega. I don't know if James-Michael is supposed to reflect Gerber at all but I've always been fascinated with intellectual loner types. I even see a little bit of myself as a kid in that, though not nearly to the extent of either character.

>>94724343
I've wanted an "All-Star Spider-Man" type of comic that goes back to that original version of Spider-Man and extrapolates him with more of the things Ditko did later on. I think I heard Morrison made a pitch like that.

>>94724384
He was just starting to get into that stuff when he was writing Spider-Man, literally reading Atlas Shrugged in the middle of his run.
This character
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looter_(comics)
is a reference to a concept from the book.

>>94724417
Because Wilson is a pretty good writer and the original premise was closer to an elseworld whereas the replacement writer and next premise was not

Also CW2 affected the title like 7 issues in

>>94724416
Ditko pretty much made every character some aspect of his own self if Charlton is to go by. It's better that he wasn't given much control on Spidey and fucked off when he felt that way.

>>94723503
So, get a chance to listen yet?

Reposting link for anyone else who's curious. https://www.sendspace.com/file/c8bl4p

>>94724417
How the fuck does this guy expect to be taken seriously with an army of stray cats? This is legitimately getting more JoJo by the issue: some ridiculous national stereotype is using an even more ridiculous power to attack the extravagantly muscled (and noted as so by the other characters) hero, only to be defeated by a trick from an elderly gimp.

>>94724261

Oh man someone get Slott to do SpiderVerse 2 so we can see alt right Peter

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>>94723596
Wait, they're doing a sequel to The American Way?

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>>94724511
thanks for reading back tomorrow <3

>>94724303

Spencer's Cap v Red Skull arc right before secret empire was really good for that

>>94724310

>tfw no Tessa Thompson, Elizabeth Olsen, Brie Larson MCU lady trinity

>>94724448
I think the New York stuff is Gerber channeling his personal experiences more so than the isolation of the protagonist.

>>94723611
>Just get me Shadowpact

Looks like SOMEBODY likes Kid Karnevil.

>>94724255
>Not hot women
Exactly. Nu52 Waller is bullshit. Now fuck off with your delusional fantasies.

>>94724517
Yep. Two issues are out under Vertigo. It takes place in 1972.

>>94724573
is it good?

>>94723754
Dear god, he IS Evil Cat-themed Doctor Strange!

>>94724531
thanks again OP

>>94724467
I don't like Spider-man so I guess, for me, it wasn't for the best.

>>94724531
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

Omega continues to be solid.

>>94724551
If that's your complain then you're a retard. Every fucking character, even bystanders are drawn most exquisitely in comics. Do you complain that every hero and heroine are super hot as well?
>Now fuck off with your delusional fantasies.
Says the faggot that's never worked a job in his life.

>>94724592
I think it's doing fine so far. It's following three plot-lines right now, and none have intersected yet. The art is still good.
The surviving characters from the first series have not exactly had a good time since the end of the last one, so there is heavy mood whiplash if you recently read the first one.

If you don't want any politics in your comics, then avoid it.

>>94724013
Waller isn't the Corporate World.
She's a civil servant. What's more, one that clawed her way to power after her children died.

>>94724396
>forgetting Wood's X-Men
It's for the best, probably.

>>94724310
That decade where there wasn't a proper Defenders book really screwed Val over.

>>94724645
>Do you complain that every hero and heroine are super hot as well?
As a matter of fact, I do, cause it's boring as hell when every character looks the fucking same.

And that's not an opinion, it's fact. Or are you one of those sad idiots who was convinced that Denise Richards was a nuclear physicist?

>>94724761
>Vampire Teen Mom Jubilee

God, how the hell did Marvel ruin the X-Men to the extent that they have?

>>94724645
I'm sorry you can't even understand the simple reasoning behind the fucking design you absolute faggot.

>>94724933
They ran away screaming from both Morrison and Milligan

>>94725105
>Xavier's evil twin and Racism Bacteria

Morrison X-Men was CRAAAP.

>>94723059

Anyone read "Gotham City Garage" ? That stuff is weird and Barda looks awful

>>94727878
I didn't know that was out yet.

>>94727878
I fucking hate that artist but other than that it seems interesting.

More interesting than the interviews made it out to be.

>>94724933
they did it on purpose to spite FOX