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IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Coming in 2018!

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The previous thread got archived--so here's a brand spanking new one, complete with all-new, autistically comprehensive polls!

>Which Age Demographic Would You Like to See IDW Aim For With Their Sonic the Hedgehog Comic Book Series?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13724335

>Choose Your Ideal IDW Sonic Book
http://www.strawpoll.me/13724321

Discuss your hopes and fears for the book below, and be sure to vote!
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>>94708639
>Our Sally Acorn

your "Sally Acorn" is a sad gutted facsimile of the original which had to be killed off thanks to the Pendering.
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>>94708654
Not a fan of post-reboot Sally, then. Why not?
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>>94708639
>Discuss your hopes and fears

....could you dumbasses stop remaking this shitty thread over and over again? Fuck. At least wait until IDW Sonic #1 before spamming your furry comic with mediocre stories that /co/ pretends to give a shit about even though they affect nothing in the Sonic Franchise and /co/ only uses them for find new furry twats to fap to.
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Is Ian Flynn still writing?
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>>94708639
>Bringing back Sonic the Hedgehog, but not Mega Man
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>>94708823
We don't know yet. They said they'd be talking to "fan favorites", but even if they were talking to him, I doubt he'd say anything until an official announcement is made.
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>>94708639
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13724321
What is with those million of autistic options? Just seems like an attempt to skew the poll

The only question is do you want game characters or mix in the original. And seeing as mega drive is the best sonic comic to come out in forever the answer is easy.
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>>94708639
>Sally at all
that's a firm no from me right off the bat
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>>94708863
>What is with those million of autistic options?
That's why I called them "autistically comprehensive" in the OP

>Just seems like an attempt to skew the poll
How so? If anything, having few options would do that. Not everyone who wants original characters wants romance and furry drama, not everyone who wants only game characters wants the book to be focused on comedy, etc.

>>94708827
>Betrayed
Exactly how I felt when Mega Man was cancelled, and then again with Sonic.
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>people are actually pro shipping/furry drama
These are the kinds ofpeople who do tickle shit on deviantart, I bet. It'd be nice to have some relationships, but don't make that the focus of the story. The whole Sonic/Tails/Mina thing still makes me wince because I didn't care about it at all
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>>94708915
>How so?
Because it splits the vote when they agree on many points. You can end up with a situation where more people vote for original characters but it is split over many, while all original is focused on one option and while getting less vote appears to win.

Or it turns into one big unclear mess.

> Not everyone who wants original characters wants romance
Which are different questions
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>>94708639
I wanna see some crazy shit. Like Godzilla in Hell except for Sonic. Maybe Sonic in Hell.
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>>94709033
Zodyck when?
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>>94708966
More ships = a greater number of rule 34 drawings and filthy fanfics. And if there's one thing the internet loves, it's cartoon porn, especially when it's of the furry variety.
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One vote for Ages 35-Dan Drazen (i.e. the joke option). Interesting.
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If someone gives me a reading order and a download link I swear I'll storytime it all
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>>94709067
It's sonic, people are going to draw porn regardless of whether it's official or not.
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>>94708690
Not him but they made her so generic. She wasn't really the leader any more just a generic asskicker. The reboot did the same to Antwone and fucking Rotor of all people.
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>>94709112
I thought everything over 12 was a joke option. I'm not sayin' that I don't want some old man jokes in there that kids won't get but come on, it's Sonic. If it's not 100% suitable for young kids there is something horribly wrong.
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>>94708639
Is he going to plug that into her butt?
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>>94708639
I only hope Tails gets laid.
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>>94709831
>>94709849
we can make this work
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>>94708639
is Mega Drive secretly the backbone story for the upcoming company because the archie staff saw the cancellation coming?
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>>94709972
It's more like it was their last chance at saving things. All the non-game stuff brought conflict and drama that Sega was getting fed up with. So first they kill off the Penders characters, but it doesn't seem to help, the next step was to try and justify a reboot.
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>>94708639
Idw is shit and I don't know why everybody is so excited about this.
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>>94708639
6-12 is the best choice.
The mlp comics were their chance to get kids back into comics and they fucked it up.
This is their second chance, hope they don't blow it.
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Let's play two truths and a lie with Archie Sonic since there's a lot to work with.
>Sonic visits another dimension where his family and friends have turned into monsters and proceeds to kill his father
>Knuckles's father learns a prophecy about his son and proceeds to microwave him
>The president turns out to be a robot piloted by one of Sally's scorned love interests as revenge
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>>94710052
>Knuckles's father learns a prophecy about his son and proceeds to microwave him
This is a lie
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>>94710052
>truth
>truth
>lie
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>>94710235
"Microwave" is an exaggeration but Locke did expose Knuckles (as an unhatched egg) to radiation from a Chaos Emerald as a precaution against visions he had of the world ending, or something like that. Knuckles's knuckles are a side effect of that

>>94710244
Correct. Anyone else wanna play?
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>>94710278
Sure, I'm game.
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>>94710316
I'm open for other people contributing but here's another
>Sonic travels back in time to prevent the fabric space and time from collapsing but returns as a hobo living off the streets
>Sonic gains fire powers but burns down half of Knothole while learning to control them
>An entire planet inhabited by a peaceful civilization is destroyed and it's pretty much Sonic's fault
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How would it go if Sonic met the first ever Hedgehog OC?
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>>94710407
>Sonic gains fire powers but burns down half of Knothole while learning to control them
Lie
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>>94708639
I think Sonic works best in the style of a shounen or kids actions cartoon. Comedy should be an element, but not the focus.
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>>94710532
Correct
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>>94710407
>>Sonic travels back in time to prevent the fabric space and time from collapsing but returns as a hobo living off the streets
True
>>Sonic gains fire powers but burns down half of Knothole while learning to control them
Lie
>>An entire planet inhabited by a peaceful civilization is destroyed and it's pretty much Sonic's fault
True
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>>94708827
They bought mega man too tho
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>>94710591
I'll make one

>Sonic becomes a burglar by wearING a ninja suit
>Knuckles' dad, upon reuniting with Knux's mom, punches her in the face
>Charmy is made retarded through the wonders of electricity
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>>94711027
True, Lie, True
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>>94708639
I'd be fine with Strictly Game and SatAM characters, focus primarily on light-hearted action/comedy, with no shipping/drama.
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>>94711112
Ding Ding! Correct!
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>>94711624
As long as Eggman can occasionally be still be incredibly threatening, I'm all for this.
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>>94708690

Not him but it was a bit of an issue for Sally to have most of her family and previous character development wiped out by the Pendering. Penders created her mom and brother, with Alexis having taken over as king some time before Flynn came on board. The fact that Sally had to deal with the idea that maybe she wasn't destined to be the political leader of the restored house of Acorn was a genuinely interesting idea (even if Bollers and Penders of course executed it in a kinda shit way). There was a distinct nuance to having Sally as the tough, practical freedom fighter while Alexis, Alicia and to some degree Maximilian represented other ideals. Of course when naugus took over Alexis got the Secret Freedom Fighters together instead and became much more hands-on, but that was also wiped out by the Pendering.

After the reboot Sally just didn't have much left. She was back to roughly the point she was before they discovered Alexis existed, but in a much nicer and more clean universe than the previous once, which didn't allow her much room to grow.

Also, and I hate to say this, I think Nigel (the Reboot king acorn) not being kind of a jerk or at least irrational lead to him being a mostly dull character to have around, since he barely had any good character hooks to him.
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>>94708639
>Discuss your hopes and fears for the book below, and be sure to vote!
I just want Overdrive to be released.
also wanna see the fallout when Penders realizes his donut steels series is a fucking abomination.
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>>94710278
>Knuckles (as an unhatched egg)
today I fucking learned
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>>94713296
Can it be possible someone draw something that ugly without doing it on purpose?
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>>94713335
monotremes r kool
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>>94710941
LIAR.
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>>94708827
Don't worry anon, it's just on hiatus. ;)
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>>94711781
I got one
>Ivo Robotnik is dead, the one from recent comics is a robot from another dimension
>It is revealed that Silver is canonically a descendant of Shadow
>Sonic's Dad made Scourge cry, by talking him down
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>>94713498
>>Ivo Robotnik is dead, the one from recent comics is a robot from another dimension
>>It is revealed that Silver is canonically a descendant of Shadow
>>Sonic's Dad made Scourge cry, by talking him down

True
Lie
True
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>>94712961
>After the reboot Sally just didn't have much left.
She still had Nicole.
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Fucking furries
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>>94708639
Soon
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>>94708639
>All those votes for 13-18
Why
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>>94709777
>Antoine

Pre-reboot he was "Guy who rarely shows up, but sometimes they bring up that he's skittish." Post-reboot he was "Guy who rarely shows up, but sometimes they bring up that he's skittish."
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>>94710052
...I mean if you didn't say robot the last one would be King Naugus.

The first two are Giant Robotno and Knuckles #25.
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>>94708639
>bring Sally back!!!!!
Jesus why? This isn't 1994 anymore, it's 2017. People won't stop making fap material
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>>94713582
Let's get obscure

>Jack Kirby is a renowned historian in the Archie-verse.
>Mina Mongoose was based on Karl Bollers' mother, Minerva.
>Knuckles is a fan of Arthur C Clarke.
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>>94712961
>Alexis

Who?
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>>94715200
Gonna guess autocorrect butchered Elias.
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>>94715091
1 certainly, 3 possibly.
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>>94715091
I feel like I've heard about the 2nd one before but the others I'm gonna guess...

Truth
Truth
Lie
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>>94709777
Are you saying she wasn't generic before the reboot?
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>>94715254
Certainly and possibly *what* anon? True or false?
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>>94714378
Calm yourself. /co/ no longer posts about which furry bitches they find attractive. They even got over the sheep girl.
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>>94714378
Nobody cares about what you're doing now.
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>>94708639
I am hoping it's aimed at babies.
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>>94715091
Truth
Lie
Truth
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>>94715638
fuck off boco
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>>94715774
Correct.

Kirby, the ancestor of Jeremiah, is a famous historian who chronicled how the Gods shaped the world.
Knuckles enjoys reading Clarke's books, although the only one he's confirmed to have read is 2001: A Space Odyssey. He mistakes Dave for an echidna because the book doesn't explicitly call him human.
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>>94708639

>not Boom Sonic and Tails
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>>94708639
>Comic Sans MS
>when you have a good font
Way to undermine the point.
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>>94708654
I'm mainly into Sanic characters for the stylish designs, of which the Reboot-FF's looked great and finally fit within the Adventure-onwards design template.

If personality is an issue, then given the archetypal statuses they usually had, it's down to how the story and external/antagonistic forces use them more than anything.
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>>94715342
Because of mods?
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>>94715342
No, I'm pretty sure the mod(s) who delete anything remotely-furry regardless of board-relevance just frequently silence them.
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>>94709033
This. Go crazy with the elseworlds/alternate stuff. Have a comic that's like the .exe games or some other creepypasta. Maybe have a story where Sonic is an autistic kid who thinks he's a hedgehog. Or maybe retell Sonic in the most gritty/realistic way possible with hyper realistic art. The possibilities are endless!
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>>94717123
This post better be fucking ironic
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>>94717183
Why? I think it sounds fun
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ok i got one
>The power of the Acorn Family monarchy comes not though a history fair and balanced rule but through bathing in a pool of all knowing pee
>it was revealed, but never really used later on, that the Grey Chaos emerald can comtol the other seven
>despite Archie's long history of adapting its source material the SA2 adaptation was only a one issue back up that unceremoniously ended with "and now play the game!" making SA2 canon to the OG Archie canon
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>>94710006
>Idw
What other comics have they done. I've never heard of IDW
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>>94714773
His cowardice was a bigger deal pre reboot, it made when he actually nutted up and became a badass really meaningful. The first thing he does post reboot is spin dash through robots with no character development whatsoever.
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>>94717925
If you take it as a whole, sure.

If you take Ian's entire run, he doesn't change. Antoine's development, which aside from The Map is mostly off camera, came in early. From about issue...I'd say 75 to 290 he is the same shit. Rarely does anything, occasionally gets a callback to being skittish, fights something sometimes, dotes on Bunnie. Aside from Tails' Adventure that's pretty much fucking it. He was terribly utilized overall and implying his character changed post-reboot when the only thing he did from 200 to 247 was getting fucking rekt is ludicrous.
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>>94717841
TMNT reboot, Ghostbusters reboot, transformers reboot, Colorful Cartoon Horses Tie-in Comic...
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>>94717778
Truth
Lie
Truth

Are you even trying?
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>>94717841
Transformers
TMNT
GI Joe
Jem
Ghostbusters
ROM
Micronauts
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>>94708639
>bringing back the Freedom Fighters AGAIN

Fuck OFF already. You had almost 300 issues of this shit. It's time for something new.

>hurr you'd rather have wisps

No, I'd rather have supporting characters that don't eat up all the spotlight and actually "support" the titular character rather than become him.

Also no more waifu bait, please. This fanbase is autistic enough as it is. Fuck Ian Flynn for encouraging that garbage. I hope we get a new writer that actually has some restraint and can actually tell a focused story rather than spend a 100 issues "world building".
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>>94718128
ok but the Lie is canon to something
what is it canon to?
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>>94718160
>The state of (You)
I hope the FFs & Ian Flynn are brought into the new comics just to see your asshurt, tbqh
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>>94718144
>>94718107
Oh Christ its going to be awful
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>>94718166
StC, it's one of the most well known things ABOUT the comic.

Shit, you may as well ask brits what Lew Stringer's comedy strip over at Marvel was called.
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>>94713582
Correct
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>>94718160

A fucking Sonic comic wouldn't have lasted 25 years without those things.

>autistic

Oh you're a memeposter.
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Honestly I woundn't mind if they kept the Freedom Fighters and the SatAM/AoStH mythos, only if IDW stopped make the comic canon so focused on them.
They're better off as C-listers in the Sonic universe.
Hope they focus on the classic four line-up ( Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy ) more than anything.
Probably would go the extra mile and retcon Sonic and Tails as only honorary members of the FF and not full-time members. Like, retcon the hole SatAM as one tiny adventure/spin-off game:
> Once in the classic trilogy era, Sonic & Tails stumbled upon the Acorn Kingdom and helped the Freedom Fighters retake their land from Eggman and saved the king.
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I want Sonic Chronicles to be properly canonized.
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>>94718160
This is my waifu. She is best girl!
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>>94709777
She's always been generic. Her entire character is a 90's action girl trope.
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>>94718272
what? most of those things are great
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>>94719410
Rather have Shadow, Rouge, and Silver than the Freedom Fighters. They fucking suck and don't even look like Sonic characters
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What would make the comic perfect in my opinion

>The art style is a mixture between Classic and Modern with a perfect blend between long limbs and chubby Sonic. Absolutely no American-styled Sonic. That shit belongs in the trash.

>Aesthetics resemble something more from the Megadrive games mixed in with some of the looks from Adventure as well

>Animal world instead of human world

>Freedom Fighters can come but they need to have a minor role and also they need to look more like Sonic characters

>A writer (or writers) with good intuitive understanding of the characters. Ian Flynn is cute but he doesn't really "know" the characters and he just does whatever about a quarter of the time. The writer needs stray from making them OOC too.

>Mainly action based with some comedy and interesting side stories for certain characters. Not really rooted in common Japanese or American tropes but the characters are their own thing.

>Little romance please. Hinting and teasing at best. Maybe even flirting. Also nothing too unorthodox, it has to fit with the character's personalities.

>The age range its directed at is good for people of all ages. Interesting enough for adults to like, fun enough for kids to enjoy
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>>94713340
enter the penders
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>>94719621
They tried to make them look like Sonic characters

the results still feel weird even now.
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>>94720630
Rotor looked strange to me but I loved everyone else's new look.
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>>94720165
So no Cheetah thread then?
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>>94708639
>hopes
reboot with stories actually based on the games with no SATAM/archie characters anywhere near it

>fears
continues the archie comics continuity
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>>94714724
6-12 is TTG demographic and I don't trust them with that
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>>94719621
Shadow and Rouge work best as parts of Team Dark and GUN to a greater extent and Silver is always off doing his own nonsense mucking with the time-stream.
The Freedom Fighters work better as Sonic's back-up.
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>>94718160
jesus fuck i agree that less is more when it comes to side characters in sonic but goddamn this is just 8 levels of butthurt

>>94718839
>A fucking Sonic comic wouldn't have lasted 25 years without those things.

i never got why people believe this. most of the side characters aren't interesting as characters or to play as and all they do is overshadow sonic and turn him into a guest star in his own games.

sonic has more than enough supporting characters without the SATAM/archie characters cluttering up everything.
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>>94721289
Game Sonic does not have enough supporting characters to last that long. Then you have to consider what characters they'll even be allowed to use and possible limitations they'll have. Ian was gonna use Mephiles and Black Doom in the reboot for example and that got squashed by Sega
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>>94720881

This meme is old. We saw it like sixteen times already. Take the false flags and save them for the next thread.
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>>94721477
>Game Sonic does not have enough supporting characters to last that long.

keep telling yourself that.
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>>94717841
They do a lot of stuff but are mostly known for their hasbro licences. It is well known they really don't want to do the pony comics but Hasbro will pull all the licences if theu don't.
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>>94721550
>something has a different opinion
>must be a meme/bait
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>>94720630
It's because there's four characters in yellow/brown/earthly pallette.
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>>94718272
>Oh Christ its going to be awful

Holy shit you are full of yourself.
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>>94721607
It doesn't. 5 years? sure. 10? Maybe. 25 years with a comic every month? Not happening unless they start adding shit of their own
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>>94721550
Stop replying to these idiots. They never have a decent argument and just spew memes and buzzwords when challenged.
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>>94719410
They don't need to be the Freedom Fighters. I'd be fine with those characters showing up as their own thing.
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I think a lot of whether they'll use the freedom fighters or not depends on how they portray eggman himself because the freedom fighter were effectively an organize that sought to rebel against the tyranny of Dr egg man's rule over the world if Eggman doesn't have that kind of ruling power in the IDW comic then the Freedom fighters won't be needed much if at all, at least this is my take on it.
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>>94721661
They should just sabotage them so Hasbro does not make them publish them anymore.
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i gikee saly
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>>94721951
i don't think you understand how many side characters are in the games alone.
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>>94725558
And how many can be used regularly? Because Sega is weird about how and when certain characters can be used. Ian had to argue to use Chip in the fucking Unleashed adaptation of all things
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>>94719410
This, though I doubt Knuckles would be a main character as much as Sega tries to. He has a job and the comic usually portrays him doing his job more than the games.

If I had to guess the main characters would consist of Sonic, Tails, Amy and someone else. It could be Cream, Big or hell, even Sticks since Sonic Team has practically made her part of the main series.
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>>94725923
ray has a good chance to even if he was only in a single game
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>>94714724
honestly I'd prefer an 8-14 age range option, feels like a better fit for what Sonic is best at

>>94715091
you really need to be better about arranging these, too often the lie is the middle option
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>>94718160
>No, I'd rather have supporting characters that don't eat up all the spotlight and actually "support" the titular character rather than become him.
not possible, SEGA wouldn't allow any of the game characters the development they need to be truly front and center
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>>94725737
if their fanbase wasn't so blaringly loud about what made them pee their collective pants they probably wouldn't do these kind of restrictions
when unleashed came out everyone REE'd about how they hated Chip cause he was sooooooo annoying.
so SEGA understandably went "no one wants so see him so we wont use him again"
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>>94726175
8-14 range would work if they worked more towards the 14 side but often time when given the chance to appeal to a younger age group they go younger and most people who played sonic in their youth are between 11-30 somethings
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>>94726542
You're way off buddy. It was more like "The Gaia Temples are back underground and Chip is asleep, why is he back?"

Nothing to do with the fanbase as far as I know
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>>94726932
it was an adaption of unleashed, why would that matter
and i feel like a bunch of the other restriction were based around what was unpopular at the time
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>>94727061
You got me dude, but that's what Ian got from Sega
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>>94725737

Why was the Unleashed adaptation like 4 years after the game anyway?
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>>94727370
They never integrated Unleashed into the comic when the game came out, so they just got around to it eventually when a good opportunity came. It was a good reason to have a big globetrotting adventure and show off how the world has changed post reboot.
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>>94727370
Well Ian was already in the middle of his arcs and when those were nuked for the reboot, Unleashed was the perfect way to do worldbuilding and bring more vidya to the comics
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>>94727103
the restrictions probably has more to do with what >>94726542 & >>94727061 said that lack of popularity is what turned sega off to using the characters again

regardless of whether you think it's a vocal minority or not. most people don't really like the side characters in sonic and sega kind realizes that.
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>>94727540
Well Ian is the one who actually gets responses from Sega in terms of character usage, so I'm gonna take his word on it
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so does anyone still have that link to list of characters that have been removed the archice comic post wave?
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>>94727795
https://sites.google.com/site/sthcharasbyauthor/list-of-ken-penders-characters
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>>94728037
thanks
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>>94725737
It's funny because Sonic Mania just used Bean, Bark, and Fang for the first time in years
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>>94729183
to be fair theres no real fan stigma against them
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>>94729183
>>94729698
Bean, Bark, and Fang only haven't shown up in forever in the game line due to having no situation where they would be useful as either antagonists or protagonist
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>>94730232
ive said it once ill say it again, Power Stone-esqe arena fighter spin off.
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>>94730293
thats if anyone can convince sega to do so.
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>>94713388

>yfw you had no idea what the heck Knuckles was because he looks nothing like an Echidna
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>>94731944

he's an enchilada
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That is one cringy comic.
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>>94729183
Technically weren't those "illusions"?
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who the fuck is "Sally"?
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