Generations: All-New Wolverine & Wolverine Story Time.

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>>94690389

"You're just as good, if not better than me"

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>>94690402

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>>94690426

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>>94690445

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>>94690457

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>>94690476

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>>94690488

>>94690476
>>94690488
>Wolverine acts like a cuck and says X-23 is better than him in everything but strength
fuck this shit

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>>94690504

>>94690504
>hnng
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Crap! Missed a page. Story time ruined.

This one goes between >>94690488 and >>94690504

>>94690552
For a full page action spread there sure is nothing going on here.

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>>94690517

>>94690505

Logan's not as fast or agile as Laura, and even though he's got ninja skills she was trained better plus he still fights like a brawling tank.

>>94690597
so much empty space and bland cgi background/floor

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>>94690608

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>>94690633

>>94690505
Shit everyone predicted the moment Generations was announced.

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>>94690654

>>94690505
Laura's always been a better fighter than Wolverine.

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>>94690672

>>94690457
>my brain still need oxygen
>if they pull me into the water and keep me down, it's all over

Way to shit on Days of a Future Past ending.

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>>94690692

>>94690689
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>94690714

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>>94690745

>>94690608
I call BS Logan has centuries of fighting experience and decades of training

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>>94690713
The whole "Wolverine's healing factor can't prevent him from drowning" thing is a relatively new development (I think started by Remender) which is totally inconsistant with his past appearances.

>>94690689
>>94690738
Laura wasn't a better fighter, she jut fought smarter than Logan.

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>>94690767

>>94690778
>(I think started by Remender)
Aaron did that WAAAAY before.

>>94690778
Ultimate Marvel did it first.

>>94690799
It;s still stupid.

>>94690778
It makes sense though, you can't regenerate from drowning really since it's a loss of oxygen. Plus Logan has never been the best swimmer.

>>94690780
It's the STR vs DEX argument.

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>>94690785

>>94690713
>>94690778
It makes sense, since a healing factor can't help you breathe if your drowning.

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>>94690820

>>94690814
Ultimate Wolverine was way weaker.

>>94690829
That image literally has him as a skeleton. Skeleton's have no lungs. Cannot breathe.

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>>94690840

>>94690778
To be fair wolverines healing fact has really been all over the place since forever, when was the last time it had an established baseline?

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>>94690859

DUN DUN DUN

>>94690445
>NAARGHH
Oh, Tom

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>>94690884

all the other Generations issues were respectful to the older capes, why did Logan have to be the one to get cucked?

>>94690857
Right, but he can still regenerate the organs and then start breathing again in that comic the regeneration takes about a minute or minute and a half, which means his brain hasn't died yet from oxygen deprivation. You stick wolverine under water for half an hour and he's not coming back because you can't regenerate a lack of oxygen, especially not underwater.

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>>94690901

>>94690911
Strong powerful womyn.

Also how many issues have there been, I've only seen this and the Hulk one.

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>>94690920

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>>94690946

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>>94690911
the three generation books are like a big MEH

>>94690966
"And make sure you bring my daughter that I'm leaving alone with you on this airplane back, bub."

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>>94690966

HA HAH! Movie reference.

>>94690936
The Jean.

Don't even bother. It was a waste of paper.

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>>94690984

Okay, here we go.

>>94690840
Uh, I'm pretty sure cellphones already existed in the early 2000s

>>94690984
didnt she always have those?

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>>94691019

>>94690778
I like the "The End" version the best, even if it was a stupid fucking book. His healing can fix brain damage, but not memory loss. Which is why Logan always had amnesia for his entire life.

>>94691043
This is Logan before he met her.

>>94691043
Yes. But this version of Logan doesn't know that...

>>94691043
He means the "very much like me."

>>94690767
>Airline employees with guns
And you thought flying with United was a pain in the ass

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>>94691051

>>94691027
>Uh, I'm pretty sure cellphones already existed in the early 2000s

This could be taking place in the 1980s for all we know. He adopted Akiko around that time, in Claremonts run. Stupid sliding timline.

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>>94691089

:(

>>94691106
Wolverine is strange because he's one of the few characters that can ignore the sliding timeline due to his healing factor.

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>>94691113

Next time on All-New Wolverine...

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>>94691113
just like that FOX MOVIE .... Marvel you are shit

>>94691051
But Laura doesn't have Logans moms eyes, she has her own mothers eyes.

>>94691113
>You coming inside

You think they'd have learned from that FF panel.

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Is this going to be awful or is this gonna be awful?

>>94691113
It was...ok. My personal favorite of the ones released so far.

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>>94691141
>Daken

Here's hoping the book will have an Elvis Presley music number.

>>94691130
Yeah, but Akiko is a normal person who was a little child when introduced, a preteen in the Kitty Pryde mini, and a teenager / young adult in her most recent appearances. So she aged maybe ten, fifteen, years since her introduction in the late 70s / early 80s.

>>94690505
Always been the case.

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>>94690911
This one isn't that bad IMO

>>94691219
>Young Thor being sexist before finally learning that women can be powerful too.

If that wasn't the theme of Whor's entire run it might be reasonable but it's just going to be more of the same.

>>94691298
Im pretty sure that's going to be 10x worse when Bendis does the Iron Man Generations one.

>>94690771
Laura was programmed. No wasted time, no need for beer and she doesn't hold back when she is in kill mode. Logan has a lot of emotional baggage that sometimes makes him pull his punched.

Logan is a tank and has far more endurance than Laura though. Even if Laura can kill faster, Logan would last a hundred times longer than her in any battle

>>94691336
I think it'll be more of an age problem than a female problem.

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This comic was utter shit. Marvel has gone from "so bad it's good" to so boring it's unreadable

>>94690714
Would Logan really let him live? 10 years ago Laura wouldn't, but I can buy that she wouldn't kill him now. But Logan, we're talking about his adopted daughter

>>94691418
don't forgot muh strong independent black woman situation as well

>>94691027
they're doing the stupid Bendis time thing where event in the past happen literally the day they were published

so this book is taking place sometime after 1984, the costume is wrong he should be in his brown togs but again this is Marvel they don't care about continuity

>>94690745
>logan in a dress
he should be Thor's Bridesmaid real Thor,
not Whor

>>94691431
k

>>94691113
>>94691089
She probably should have mentioned Daken

>>94691219
>>94691292
We all know that the worst one is going to be the Hawkeye one-shot.

>>94690840
>cell-what?
ok, I kinda chuckled. early 90s?

>>94690505
>White boy tears
You sensitive bitches

>>94690987
>Jean
>waste of paper
hasn't that been her status quo since Morrison?

>>94691219
Apocalypse brings in sales and does the job, is there a better worker in all of comic books?

Can logan come back now TT_TT

>>94691153
people always say "my mother/fathers eyes/nose/etc" it's rarely true. It's just something people self insert into relatives to make them feel like they are closer. They sometimes do have similar traits but people overblow it all the time

>>94691051
I liked this page. Just really seemed natural for them in this sense.

>>94690911
Damn you whiny ass pussies. Go back to your safe space

>>94691141
And this right here is why this issue, while being decent in and of itself, rings so hollow...

You can't embrace this as a fleeting reunion for Laura when Marvel also has two of Logan's sons and an older version of Logan from a grimdark timeline running about

>>94691113
;_;

>>94691106
Cell phones existed in the 80's...Though they were quite big that that most people prefer car phones which did exactly the same thing as a mobile cell phone. Now a car phone was created in the late 40's and their production was phased out in 2008 for good.

>>94690780
so she was a better fighter

>>94691113
corny ending but it worked for me nonetheless. Best of 3 mediocre Generations stories. Wow this is turning out to be a bad idea

>>94691219
Could be good could be bad. Odinson and Whor's interactions have been 50/50 lately

>>94691722
they weren't called Cell Phones until the flip phone though. The big ones were called Mobile Phones

Did I miss an issue? Is there a book that explains why everyone is suddenly in the past?

>>94691843
The Secret Empire issue where everyone is zapped to the past has been delayed

>>94691843

Probably Legacy. Not out yet;

>>94690843
Ultimate Wolverine was way stronger. He didn't have a healing factor. He just lived through anything.

>>94691376
So OK he has literally centuries of fighting experience
Has had decades of training from everyone from ninjas to the X-men and Avengers
He a berserker mode which he runs on FUCK YOUR SHIT UP speed and agility
and X-23 is somehow still a better fighter...
I still call BS

>>94691130
Logan doesn't strike me as particularly technologically savvy.

>>94690911
This one is actually fucking good so far. Stop being a whiny bitch.

Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I've enjoyed all of the Generations so far. Not much of note has happened, but with Marvel's usual events, that's a good thing. And all things considered, it was nice to see the actual Logan instead of future or whatever.

>>94691497
She's specifically trying not to fuck with the timeline. Otherwise she'd have told him exactly where the weapon X facility that made her is.

No way would Laura take him in a fight. Thus writing was stupid and honestly just showed why according to Taylor Laura is better. Screw this

>>94692493
Laura's beaten him in a fight at least once a long time ago, but I don't think this issue ever said that she could beat him.

Adult X-23 is annoying. Should've stayed a kid or a young teen. It's not like anybody else in the Marvel Universe ages.

>>94692527
She never once beat him when he was trying. In that fight he was talking to her trying to subdue her. Here he was going to die to a bunch of ninjas that couldn't touch her

>>94692314
>blatant SJW Marvel pandering
>good
Wow, this place really is /co/mblr.

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>>94692545
Logan also really didn't want her to be like him. Having her take up the mantle is completely tonedeaf and not something it would have wanted.

>>94692266
keep in mind that in those "decades" he also became a hermit or had his memory erased for large chunks. So you could probably count only half his life experience. Still a valid point.

I guess I shouldn't say "better" but she's a more efficient killer, an assasin. Logan is better in a fighter though, cause he can tank enough to learn their moves and keep coming

>>94692493
she never beat him in this issue? What are you butthurt about?

>>94692266
That's because you're a retard who doesn't realize that her being better and more skilled is a consistent character trait since the beginning.

>>94692684
He basically admitted he was going to die and then commented on how those same people couldn't even touch her. No way she could handle something he couldn't. As a person she s better. As a fighter he is. This was his one appearance in three years and that asshole Taylor used it to promote Laura at Logan's detriment

>>94692545
This. Ever since X-23 grew up, she's become a total Mary Sue.

>>94691051
Um...House of M hasn't happened yet. How does he know what his mothers eyes look like?

>>94692775
No it's not. That has never been showed. He s handled so much better than her.

>>94692862
Literally in her fucking origin story. And the story after that. And the story after that...

>>94692887
No it wasn't every confrontation they've had Logan was trying to subdue and not overtake her. He's handled far superior threats than she could. She's not on his level.

>>94692780
Shush. The Hand's whole thing is that they're ninjas, they're athletic. He's not nearly as athletic as Laura is, of course she'd be able to take them on better than he can.

>>94692266
His centuries of fighting experience always falls to the wayside and he just ends up swinging his claws in a blind rage.

>>94690505
go take your OUTRAGE! to tumblr or twitter please

>>94692928
It's not a vs match you drooling imbecile. it's a high score comparison. Her fighting style is better and more efficient. Him winning in a vs match is more a matter of the extra durability/weight from a metal skeleton and will not help him be faster at killing ninjas.

>>94691153
Not necessarily the color, but the shape of them

>>94692993
This, she can kill faster and better, but he can tank.

It's a standard DPS vrs Tank build

>>94692961
He's handled so much more before. In the agent of shield storyline he killed thoudands

>>94692961
On top of that she s not more skilled than him. She's faster sure, but fighting skill is his, when he's not berserk that is. Laura has her own series now he doesnt. He s been gone for the past 3 years. This could have shown why he was great rather than why she s a better fighter and person than hom. Taylor did it to prop up Laura at Logan's expense

This book is basically a failure because it's not writing the Logan that has just barely taken Akiko as his adoptive daughter, it's writing Aaron's post-Schism Logan.

Not only did the Logan of that time don't even know about his mother since he hasn't regained his memories, he had his attitude. He wouldn't be bothered Laura's outperforming him but he definitely would've said she's awfully bossy and been his stubborn self when someone'd tell him GO READ THIS GIRL A STORY WITH PRINCESSES and play tsuntsun for a bit instead of complying.

>>94693069
This is back during the 80s. Long before that storyline

>ITT shameless waifu fags hiding behind grrl power.

>>94693133
Yeah but it's the same guy. My point is that this generations thing should have been about what makes both special . Despite all the shit she went through Laura never turned her back on her humanity. Logan did. He dropped the ball on his responsibilities as a father countless times and to everyone else basically. But in a fight of any kind, you'd want him, UNLESS he's gone berserk then he's unpredictable. Logan is a top tier fighter, above her, and white intelligent. Not a stupid brute. In a fight she has agility and speed. That's it. Technique strength and durability is logans. But the whole issue just showcased why Laura is superior in all aspects.

>>94693113
>at Logan's expense
this is where we are now
>a compliment is now at the deliverers expense
jesus christ the insecure loganfags are really coming out today

>>94693248
While intelligent not white imgelligent, stupid autocorrect

>>94693257
If it is a direct comparison yeah it is at their expense, by definition

>>94693126
>it's writing Aaron's post-Schism Logan
What about this Generations haven't you understood. All are different timeline characters and have been updated to 'current' status no matter the timeline. This is alternate timeline shit and you are getting buthurt that it isn't exactly 616

>>94693248
>generations thing should have been about what makes both special
what about the previous books made you think that? They are completely about the new characters, not the old

>>94693301
>What about this Generations haven't you understood.
Marvel said we were going to see the characters from yesteryear team up and react to their current contemporaries, so I think it's pretty much themselves who didn't understand the premise of what they should be publishing.

>and you are getting buthurt that it isn't exactly 616
>y-y-your valid critcism can only mean you're butthurt

What a shame, I really looked forward to seeing Laura interact with a more assholeish Logan than she's ever encountered. But if sweeping it under the maymay rug works, more power to you.

>>94693326
Marvels statements made me think that

>>94691051
Thanks for womansplaining, Laura. You sure showed him.

>>94690778
I don't remember most of the details, but there was a story where it turned out the reason he wouldn't die, even when reduced to just a few cells, was that he was being sent back by some mystic force or something. There was a duel with some dude involved, but I don't remember if winning meant he got to die or to return.

Anyway, whatever it was, it got settled. After that, he would die if he suffered too much damage, or drowned, etc.

>>94693376
>>94693363
>listening to marvel marketing
when will you ever learn?

>>94692414
it's fucking generic, we've seen this book a million times, every sidekick or legacy character has a time travel story where they meet their predecessor and get their seal of approval.

>>94693607
That idea origionated in a Claremont Dreamscape that future writers forgot was a dreamscape

>>94691113
So whats the end goal of generations? Are they bringing back the OGs or wat?

>>94693997
No it's just more marvel garbage. For this one it was along the lines look why this wolverine is so much better, she's the best at what she does not him, oh, and she s a better person too.fuck marvel

>>94693686

Where'd Logan give Laura his seal of approval in this story?

All I saw was a time-traveling daughter advising her father to be a better father before it's too late, only not to herself because she knows that by the time she meets him it's already too late. She's not doing it for her benefit but for Amiko's and Logan's, and that makes it bittersweet.

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The state of Marvel

>>94693248
In the 80s Logan's healing factor wasn't as insane as it would later become.

>>94694216
by doing what she told him to do like a good beta

>>94694264
She actually heals.bettee than him. It's the skeleton that's always given him an edge against people she would lose to. And he had that here.

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>>94694216
>Where'd Logan give Laura his seal of approval in this story?
Logan literally admits to being scared of her. He recognizes her skill and overall power, he accepts her with no question.

>>94690654
Taylor. Why is it so fucking hard for you to just stop writing witty remarks for a taciturn character?
Fuck.

>>94694399
What garbage, why not just say she s great without having him compare himself as inferior? It's just Taylor propping up Laura at Logan's expense even though this should have been about Logan since he's the one who's been dead for three years. Her cruising him as a parent I get, cause you know, he sucks, as a fighter, she's not even close to him. He s so obsessed with showing them as equals, which is bullshit from a fighting stats perspective.

>>94694503
Would it count as incest if Logan fucked X-23?

>>94694503
Daddy daughter is best sex.

>>94690505
>I don't know anything about X-23.

>>94693685
>you're daring to criticize a book based on what they said it was going to be
crazy bizarro world.

>>94690505
She's more agile and graceful than a man who is weighed down by a metal skeleton, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

>>94694399

He's acknowledging that she's freakishly good and efficient at killing ninjas in a manner that contrasts and compliments his own.

If you really wanted to reach for that seal of approval validation, you could have pointed out how Logan says "I was the best there is at what I do... at least, I thought I was" right before that, when Laura first shows up. But perhaps you didn't because Taylor still has him say "I'm the best there is at what I do" at the story's end, instead of tacking on "...but someday I won't be, and I couldn't be prouder."

THAT would be your insecurity realized.

>>94694521
fucking autists. It was internal monologue, his interpretation. From what I remember, he retired for a while in Japan and stopped fighting. Maybe he felt rusty? IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER! it was just his internal interpretation at the time

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>>94694252
More like

>>94691113
Bullshit, Gambit was much more of a father to her than Wolverine ever was.

>>94694851
a dead stunt woman would have been better.

>>94694877
>only read Liu's story
uh..I liked it but no. Wolverine took care of her far more

>>94694932
Nah

>>94694932
No?

>>94694932
Except that's not true at all.

>>94694790
I have actual autism. Don't lump me in with that shithead crybaby.

>>94690476
She SHOULD NOT be better at tracking. And on this page she indeed is. This is where, to me, it crosses a line. I don't see any problem with him respecting her combat. But her actually proving to be better than him at what he ACTUALLY does is annoying.

>>94690505
>it's a "i don't know anything about comics and these characters but I'm still going to be triggered" post
Oh look, reruns.

>>94695292
cause she tracked him? Logan is a stinky mother fucker and easy to track unless he taking extra effort.

>>94691731
Mayweather is inarguably one of the smartest boxers ever. No rules or even MMA rules, this upcoming fight would be a massacre.

Now imagine if he was fighting a guy the same height but twice the weight of mcgreggor. Smart is great and all, swift is cool, but in a real fight competent brute force matters.

>>94695480
what part of Adamantine claws do you not understand?

>>94695292
There's no tracking going on in that page.

>>94695330
>>94695513
miss-clicked, meant>>94690517

She was the one with the smarts to use the guy as bait. And Logan sit's there oblivious.

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>>94690875
>when was the last time it had an established baseline?
Pre-Fatal Attractions (so everything before 1993). Before that event he could withstand any long term bleedout effects, like he was stronger than most but an artery cut open would kill him like anything else, his healing factor was more an edge in drug resistance and brawling anything with blades or fire could fuck him up if he wasn't careful.. When he lost his adamantium to Magneto ripping it out it he was way weaker to start but after adjusting to his condition and a failed rebonding from Nemesis his healing factor went primal and he could heal rapid fast, in 2000 when he got his metal bones back it was suppose to also hinder him but as we have seen that has not been the case.

>>94695509
Oh, I forgot she's the only one with those...

>>94691714
>Marvel also has two of Logan's sons and an older version of Logan
Wolverine Corps limited series when?!

>>94696100
It was called Wolverines and it sucked

>>94694785
>He's acknowledging that she's freakishly good and efficient at killing ninjas in a manner that contrasts and compliments his own.
And this is written so that Marvel can show us how Logan approves of Laura. You just defeated your own argument.

>>94694790
Logan doesn't talk like that. You have to acknowledge that writers are just shit sometimes.

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>>94695748
I can't imagine why a person trained as an assassin might be better at manipulating people she's hunting down into leading her towards more targets.

>>94696546
But so is Logan AND he's known as a tracker too, not just due to scent. The issue was made to prop up laura. She was more dominant in the fight, wasn't touched. He says he used to be the best, only says he is again once she leaves, it was her plan to track, her plan to beat creed. He'll she wasn't even more incapacitated than Logan after they fell out of a plane and He's the one with the unbreakable bonds not her.

>>94696828
You're being a whiny bitch.
Logan would have just found some other way to track em down with even less clues without Laura. The Hand aren't hard to find.
Everyone already pointed out that she IS a better fighter since the start. Creed always breaks Logan like a bitch under normal circumstances like every other time pre Aaron so of course a different person surprising him is going to do better before he understands wtf is going on. Once you reach a certain height you don't get extra damage from falling any higher and regular humans have survived several massive drops without parachutes. She has a better healing factor due to the lack of the metal skeleton and with comic book physics she used sabertooth to cushion her landing.

>>94697097
dude I'm not insulting you, try returning the favor. Also shes faster NOT more technically skilled, if it was mentioned that she was it is not supported with feats.Also, creed has ALWAYS lost to logan. And yeah she heals better but he has taken more pain AND the skeleton allows him more damage soak than her. your depiction of logan is apparently a stupier weaker version of laura. which is not he case. again, in a fight scenario, hes much more deadly and frankly hes better than her. as a sdneaky assassin, she is. Hes ALWAYS been better, never has she beaten him in a fight where he was actually trying. if youre bringing up comic history then youd have to admit she cant take him, but here he was a sidekick in his first appearance since forever. all for laura who sells 30 000 something a month.

The comics were always shifty on what they were. He adopted her at one point but also introduced her to surge and the new x men as his sister or some shit like that. I dont remember Laura ever calling him dad though

>>94697660
>faster NOT more technically skilled

you realize in Laura origin story she for improving on Logans time trials right? Or how she was handing him his ass when they first fought?

From what I can remember Laura's healing is canonically faster than Logans? She probably is faster/more agile but as far as strength and fighting goes he definitely wins

>>94690911
because logan is a cuck

>>94691635
no. die in fire, you fucker

>>94696546
Logan has been hunting people and animals for over a century, my man. Experience trumps training everytime.

>>94696220
because it was written by soule

>>94690745
Ugh. I hate how Laura is written nowadays. She has zero personality.

>>94690713
The DOFP ending where he was pulled out of the water?

>>94697799
you mean the fight where he spends all o it trying to talk to her. where he catches her fists mid swing.

>>94690913
>which means his brain hasn't died yet from oxygen deprivation
What about from incineration?

>>94697660
You're runnin around talkin shit on a comics board when you clearly don't know what you're talking about when it comes to comics. Of course you're going to get insulted when 99% of what you say is bullshit while pretending to have an air of authority. Everything in the comics runs counter to everything you proclaim. Her general introduction in this issue was a standard one for her because noticing that she's way more technical/skilled than wolverine is the first thing everyone does.
>>94697897
No. He spent a century running around naked in the woods with wolves and getting drunk with occasional military service in between. Then he forgot most of it due to being an amnesiac. Experience doesn't mean shit if you can't remember any of it.

>>94690901
Nice ass.

It always seems strange when Logan talks about Laura being a daughter to him. He met her when she was already an adult, he didn't see her growing up and has only known her for a couple years.

>>94697984
the one where she almost made him bleed out, despite barley having a scratch on her yes. From her origin in the cartoon and in the comics she's been a better fighter because she actually uses technique and smarts instead of relying on a healing factor and an adamantium skeleton. If you want to say that wolverine can take a better beating go right ahead, but the closest comparison they've had is the weapon x time trial where Laura has him beat.

>>94698111
She wasn't an adult, she was like 14 at the oldest.

>>94691592
Yes, she's been awful in all the years she's been dead again.

>>94698033
And evidence do you have to support what you say? When has Laura ever taken in his threats, and in their encounters Logan actually states HE'S faster. Which I disagree with. He S trying to talk to her whole she S trying to kill him. They've never fought seruously. I'm basing my opinion on their respective feats in comics, not what was said randomly when a character was introduced. She can't take Logan one on one. Period. The skeleton alone gives him the win. There is no evidence that suggests she could even this doesn't prove That, although it implies it.

>>94698033
And your second comment about the Logan character shows you have a bias against him

>>94698129
Cause she's faster so? That's not a fight. And he wasn't trying to hurt her in the fight you're referencing so it's useless to use as an argument.

>>94698219
I don't have a bias against him like others that call him an uncle Mugga. I was mocking you because you were dumb enough to think that his experience counts when he literally cannot remember more than 5 years of it at best. His brain is made out of swiss cheese.
>>94698201
Again. You keep on trying to make it a vs match when comparing Logan and Laura is not a vs match. When people and the comics say she's better they mean she is better at killing people, sneaking up, and her general assasin things she was trained in. You keep on trying to change the topic into a vs match either due to your lack of understanding of a simple comic or sheer refusal to realizing you're were arguing about something never stated.

>>94690857
that was fucking retarded and went against all the other times where his healing factor was way more reasonable.

>>94698331
He remembers his mom so he should remember his entire history, even when he didn't, he rembered training for years with ogun.
I agree she's a better assassin, but that's not what this was. This was a straight I'm fight scenario where Logan has always had an advantage to to his stats superiority.

>>94698245
>the closest comparison they've had is the weapon x time trials.

these are the only comparable feats Laura and Logan have Laura has him beat in these, until an in universe 1v1 "deathmatch" occurs Laura is the better fighter.
>muh feats
if you want to bring that bullshit argument you can suck a dick. Laura hasn't been in the amount of runs Logan has make anything comparable, nor has she been pushed as hard as he has since her creation. The most fair way to run a feats contest between characters which such a gap in usage would be to place a limit after their initial creation and compare feats from said early runs.

So are all the Generations issues just one-shot time travel adventures that won't affect anything and never get mentioned again?

>>94698580
Mostly.

>>94698530
Again the trial thing is not relevant and doesn't prove anything. And what you're saying makes no sense, cause power levels and expectations were much more subdued for some characters when Logan was created. It's fair to compare what characters have done, and He's done more than her. And even in their one on ones, she's never been able to put him down fully, even when he clearly wasn't trying and she was trying to subdue her. As an assassin operative, yeah she's better. Okay. Again this is hand ninja. Logan has killed hundreds at the same time. He should have had this. And Again, I don't see why you feel the need to insult me cause our opinions are different. We are just debating

>>94698406
If you mean sabertooth? She caught him off guard. Classic Sabertooth would generally be able to gut her in any other situation or if he knew she existed although I suppose the lack of adamantium protection he can use against her claws would be troublesome.
She got lucky. Everyone else here knows she got lucky with a trick she can't pull off a second time.

>>94698580
They were written by the normal writers of those books so certain things may be brought up in their ongoings.

Amadeus may start looking for a way to deal with the monster in his truck
Jean might actually use her Super Saiyan Rose form against Phoenix

Laura might finally meet Amiko

>>94698637
I wasn't commenting in that I was commenting that every initiation, idea and bad add moment came from Laura. Logan was just a sidekick to his own protege. In this case it was the fact that Laura came up with the plan to beat sabertooth. And she was the dominant force in the opening fight, and she rightfully gave Logan a lecture at the end. She dominated the entire issue in Logan's first appearance in 3 years. Garbage, just to prop her up and show She s equal instead of respecting Logan. And I'm not the only one o this message board that had issues with this comic

>>94698619
anon the weapon X time trials are the benchmark the the weapon X program used to rate their effectiveness, Laura preformed better in these test.

anon once again you cannot compare 2 characters via feats if they haven't had the same amount of exposure, it gives the one with more history a massive advantage due to the fact they have been used in more stories. Even more so when one of those said characters have received multiple and prolonged pushes like Logan.

and you're on a german fanfiction archive, if me telling you you can suck a dick is actually insulting to you get thicker skin.

>>94698942
I'm just saying it's unnecesary. And okay the trials, who cares if she never backs it up after? Or who says Logan didn't get better after he left weapon x and his mind was free and that's why he has so many better feats. Initial showings of characters are ALWAYS exaggerated that's the point. Same went for Damian, every Spider-Man villain, any characters first appearance is always hyped. However they don't always maintain it. And if the trials were to show she can eliminate a target better, discreetly, then okay, but clearing rooms if people, like this comic, and going one on one is logan. Always has been. Again in the agent of shield storyline he killed thousands of hand them best gorgon one on one. I agree she has some strengths over Logan, but not as it was depicted here. Here Logan was basically there to promote.her and not to pay homage to two generations as was advertized.

>>94690389
For a book about people with healing factors and metal claws theres very little blood

>>94694336
Yeah but in the 80s the healing factor was stunted by the skeleton....

>>94700199
I know, that's why shebheals better but can tank more due to the skeleton, it's traditionally like that.

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Why won't Marvel bring back young Logan? Why do they insist with old man Logan?

>>94699980
New Wolverine is marketed towards females. That's why modern Laura is so quirky, quippy and empowered. Girls don't like blood because it's icky. So Marvel panders to them by changing everything about Laura and Wolverine in general.

>>94691051
>An alternate timeline?
I suppose being in the X-Men long enough really just dull you to shit like that, huh? That's every other day for them at this point in time.

>>94691219
>Is this going to be awful or is this gonna be awful?
Its going to be fucking awful. But the triggering is going to be very fun to watch.

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I was one of the people who was kinda tired of seeing Wolverine on the cover of almost every Marvel book, but now... I really miss Wolverine. I enjoyed Old man Logan, but it's just not the same without him, and even with Ike out of the picture, we'll never get him, the FF, or a Marvel comics where everything felt connected ever again.

>>94690476
I like the jacket look

Wolverine sure does have a lot of "kids"

>>94690389

Surprise it's shit pandering

>>94703635
Disney could just decide to one day to brute force their way back into having the X-men/FF rights again

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>>94699176
>Initial showings of characters are ALWAYS exaggerated that's the point

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I find it funny that that the initial appearance of Wolverine was like a c-list disposable character, not something that was pushed by the writers and the editoral. It was the fans reaction which forced Marvel to "evolve" his character.

>>94690843
>can regenerate from a single cell
>weaker
Writers had to go out of their way and say every cell got destroyed by Magneto. That's how OP Ultimate Wolverine was

>>94691219

It's going to be "she who bore you best" all over again but in the past.