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ultimates 2 #100
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>>94689289
co-written by Jonathan hickman
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Will Ewing be going full Millar?
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>>94689303
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>>94689348
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>>94689362
ego is so fat
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>>94689379
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>>94689395
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>>94689395
tha fucking bitch ...... that fucking chavez sudaca
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>>94689409
I think maker underestimated this team
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>>94689428
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>>94689444
Ult cap is putting up a hell of a fight
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>>94689289
ah finally, thanks OP was waiting impatiently
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>>94689458
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>>94689458
Weird.

Blue marvel is superman so ok.
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>>94689458
Is Hank about to smack Janet again?

Pick your battles man
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>>94689303
>>94689348
>>94689362
3 pages, 1 picture, 1 with 2 words. Yup that's Hickman for you
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>>94689475
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>>94689475
Yaw slay king
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>>94689458
Well he did go 1 on 1 with the Hulk in the first Ultimates arc.
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>>94689444
oh god, Maker created his Ultimates from 1610-memes.
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>>94689495
damn it you probably made like twelve more reeds doing that
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>>94689495
Rip steve. Ugh.
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>>94689515
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>>94689444
OMG that callback to Cap hatred of France
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>>94689532
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>>94689532
This is issue is pretty political. At least nice Tony is standing around.
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>>94689444
Jesus fuck Ewing, I know it's a meme but not one anyone actually WANTS referenced
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>>94689550
Is this fucking Marvel Zombies Return refrence?
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>>94689550
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>>94689555
shut the fuck up snowflake go to your safe space fucking sjw
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>>94689458
Didn't Hank die in his Yellowjacket outfit though?
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>>94689568
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>>94689597
Reed took a few liberties when putting the team together
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>>94689606
eternity looks like a woman ...
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>>94689458
Oh shit
IT REALLY IS THEM
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>>94689348
Goddamn that art,
probably took them a few hours for this one
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Use google Chrome to go faster.
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>>94689606
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>>94689655
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>>94689379
>Oblivion is finally mentioned and shown
And all this time we thought he would play a much bigger role
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>>94689568
>room full of geniuses

LOL Carol's face when she realizes she is out of place
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>>94689348
someone revived kubo tite?
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>>94689417

You're a moron.
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>>94689515
Jesus Christ Monica is so OP. But in a team like this that's probably a good thing.
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>>94689673
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>>94689673
Super flows back.
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>>94689692
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>>94689444
>that callback: 3/10
>Americas response: best Amerca moment ever/10
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>>94689444
He said it
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>>94689692
Mary Sue Panther wins again
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>>94689692
Why would something a tiny percentage of the population of the universe fears be so powerful? It wouldn't even be considered "old" compared to these things.

This is why I hate Black Panther.
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>>94689395
Doesn't Chavez mean "Ay Chico! Step away from the gizmo or I will summon my two brown lesbian moms to kick your ass! Did I tell you I'm a lesbian?"
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>>94689458
>Pym slap on first page of Pym

Oh fuck right off Ewing
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>>94689395
>The House of Ideas
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>>94689515
>>94689495
Will Ewing always write the maker as a jobber?
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>>94689712
Shin megami cannot beat pokemon.
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Comics were a mistake.
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>>94689712
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>>94689729
>>94689732
Technically the Tiger God is a White Tiger character, Black Panther just made a deal with it.
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>>94689762
New celestials.
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>>94689762
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>>94689679
If people bought the book, we may have gotten more.
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>>94689762
>>94689785
Why? We were fine without them.
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>>94689741
Ultimate Pym is a straight up abuser, had a pretty good death but still.
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>>94689732
I guess the Tiger God got upgraded to be the Universal personification of fear? Marvel's version of Parallax
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>>94689794
He said the thing
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>>94689555
I do.
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>>94689762
This is really cool
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>>94689756
He's a fucking white male, of course.
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>>94689289
>>94689348
>>94689362
>>94689379
>>94689395

you people know that Gwenpool is considered a better book, right?
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>>94689794
Logos gone. Law and chaos are back. Inbetweener still dead.
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>>94689428

I don't remember ultimate-Hulk ever being shown as anywhere near as strong as the 616 counterpart. The power levels in the Ult-verse were dialed down quite a bit.

Now I only skimmed most of the later Ult-verse garbage, wouldn't surprise me if there was massive power inflation along the way.
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>>94689550
ok, I love this interaction solely for Carol's worried face.
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>>94689809
>the fourth
Ewing you are never going to write that story and you know it
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>>94689848
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>>94689848
Comics, fuck yeah.
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>>94689741
To be fair 1610 hank Pyms first major appearance was beating the shit out of jam and spraying her with pesticide,unlike 616 hank,he's genuinly a repetitive violent spouse
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>>94689848
I was expecting this to happen and boy was I not dissapointed.
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>>94689848
The fuck is going on
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>>94689687
>she still think's Jan is stupid like 616
>hey Jan, while these geniuses work it out, wanna go shopping?
>shoppi-? No, I have to help them with this equation
>bu.....
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>>94689848
Aren't they all supposed to be dead after Secret War?
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>>94689848
Ah the old marvel but it's infinty.
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>>94689860
Very nice Hickman callback
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>>94689860
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>>94689888
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>>94689813
Don't be like that, but it is somewhat depressing that Bendis is writing a better Maker then what Ewing is doing.
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>>94689888
I'm sad Ultimate Cap doesn't get to come along.
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>>94689908
>>94689908
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>>94689888
Living tribunal is back but as a head.
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>>94689908
>Not even Galactus can get through the shield
This is some major fucking bullshit
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>>94689908
so he's the one who brought back quasar
ewing trying to clean up as usual
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>>94689550
>Tony was revived with a flask
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>>94689848
>Infinity is just hanging out there without a title
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>>94689924
>>94689930
but Quasar can
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>>94689712
mommy
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>>94689732
since these are abstracts they are fighting this is more likely the aspect of first fear or some bullshit like that. Panther-Tiger god is now an aspect?
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>>94689532
>Bundle of sticks
Just say faggot already
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>>94689940
Dear God did we really just end this with a
>Power of friendship
message?
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>>94689940
Whatever happened to Owen Reece?
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>>94689940
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>>94689712
I...I just want a hug...is that possible?
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>>94689834
Wow. Peter is way shorter than his 616 counterpart and Thing is way taller.
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>>94689692

fukkin shit, a small-time godling versus the new equivalent of the Living Tribunal.

this book just cannot stop fellating BP
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>>94689940
>people were in deep denial about this truly being the final issue
Glad this cuck series is over, just need to wait for the inevitable cancellation of US Avengers and Royals and Marvel will complete its Ewingectomy.
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So life bringer is sticking. And no inbetweener.
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>>94689950
But it doesn't say that, if it said "Aspect of Fear", I'd be sold, but it specifically says "humanity" which should make it trivial on this cosmic scale.

It feels like bullshit just to get Black Panther in there to be super awesome.
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>>94689963
>Galactus: Friendship is Magic Edition
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>>94689967
Still in his room outside reality, watching everything. May or may not be giving orders to the Maker
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>>94689924
>can't get through shield
>Dumps BP back on earth and everyone else back in space
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>>94690000
The room outside reality became Galactus' outpost, he left it.
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>>94689940
I genuinely don't understand. What is the point of rewriting Marvel's cosmic metaphysics with Secret War just to make everything back normal again?
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>>94690016
Ewing still has to follow editorial mandate.

It's such a fucking shame, tho. Seriously, Secret Empire did nothing but hold back the whole sense of scale of this, while the ending felt extremely rushed.
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>>94689806
>>94689862
I know, but 1610 further cemented that into his character. I'm just so fucking tired of that being the core of every single time the character is written.
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>>94690038
This. I actually didn't enjoy this as much as I was hoping to, there were a lot of tongue-in-cheek jokes about sales and comics in general though, so it wasn't all bad.
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>>94689984
>Peter is way shorter than his 616
well he's 15
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>>94689881
These were the multiverses before Eternity. The sixth multiverse was where galactus came from.

So they were long dead before secret war but guess what anon? Just like the first firmanent Everything lives.
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>>94689848
awesome
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>>94689495
>>94689444
>>94689458

Notice how the second steve calls for a talk he looks fuller and drawn less scratchy.
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>>94689458

>Hank getting ready to slap Janet immediately and for no reason

That's a bit on the nose, isn't it? It feels comical.
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>>94689940
>This could have been an event
>Marvel decided to downgrade it
Part of me doesn't believe the execs at Marvel would come to this decision on their own. If Bendis is in charge of the next company wide crossover event I'll feel vindicated.
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>>94689862
>and spraying her with pesticide
Holy fuck I need to read Ultimate universe stuff.
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>>94689712
>>94689762
the never-queen is my waifu
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>>94689908
>Carol finding hope again
Good, she's been shit lately
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>>94690038
All changes was just temporary Ewings changes only.

Non restored multiverse and celestials being destroyed wasn't. And secret wars folded in characters where they can't screw up canon much.

Nip, tuck and tweak as Axel said.

Tony restored the other eternity's and super-flow but not the multiverse as seperate. Inbetweener is still gone and shapers still a ghost and Galan is still the light bringer.

Compromise of old and new status qou.
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>>94689732
"As above, so below" is one of the themes of the book. The events that happen on the prime earth define the entire multiverse (and vice versa) because that's where TOAA focuses its writing most of the time. Also, gods are a reflection of the ideas and dreams of humans, as seen in Agent of Asgard and if you want to go further back, in Gaiman's Sandman.
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>>94689888
Despite the fact that everybody in the Ultimate Universe is a dick, I'm glad these guys got a happy ending. Kinda wish it was Hank that got melted and not Steve though
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>>94690132
if this were an event it would have to be dumbed down for the masses. It's probably better it wasn't. But, it should have carried on for another dozen issues before this ended. So much was left untouched.
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>>94689395
Well, we're doomed
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>>94689348
The Heart
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>>94690023
>Galactus remains gold
>The maker and the molecule man are on the loose
>Ego is still a giant humanoid
>TOAA himself interfered for the first time in history
>New celestials

The cosmic metaphysics have changed, for the better. Now let's hope that other writers respect that.
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>>94689818
By one guy.
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>>94690179
They need a non-altered Hank because the current one is Ultron, so once I again I would chalk it up to editorial mandate.

Maker killing Ultimate Cap doesn't feel like a random event BTW - it only feels like editorial wanted Ewing to kill him to not confuse the readers after Secret Empire with yet another different Captain America
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>>94690023
>normal

>all Celestials back
>The old Multiverses are alive
>Lifebringer
>inbetweener dead (maybe)
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>>94689959
"Of course. The faggot--stronger when bound together than any are alone. Where fascism gets its name from - - the latin fascis, meaning faggot. Except a faggot is only strong when firmly held. Let it be, and it's just dead wood. Most people take the wrong lesson from that. Strength is not a faggot. Strength is a tree. We're stronger when we can grow."
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>>94689888
Real Ultimates series when?
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>>94689762
I was expecting them to use the last celestial's dna to turn eternity back into a multiverse, the way how they used the dark ones to revert it back into a single universe. This is pretty cool as well.
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>>94689303
>>94689362
>>94689348
wait, so I finally get this.
The Celestials and the Infinity Watch were in this place - the same place where the One Above All is.

So this means that even when there's nothing, there's still the One Above All.

Holy shit, Oblivion is such a fucking cuck hahahahaha, he will literally never win.
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>>94689409
>that Maker banter

My fucking sides.
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>>94689762
Wasn't the fifth host technically those young "gods" in the 90s or something?
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>>94689532
>>94689959
So technically speaking, Eternity is a mighty faggot?
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>>94689428
>People for Ult. Universe still have cannibal tendencies.
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>>94689379
I see what you mean. He's practically the size of a planet
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>>94690305
no, you got it wrong.

Wanting Eternity to be a faggot is wrong. He needs to be a tree to be strong.
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>>94690219
I guarantee the next time we see Galactus in a non-Ewing book he'll be back in purple and eating planets.
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>>94689940
RIP
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>>94689756
>Reshapes entire multiverse in a single issue without any power ups or hacks like Doom or Thanos
>Infinite versions of himself still at large
>A jobber
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>>94690354
Makerfags can't understand that
1. A character should still have proper limitations. America and Monica can't plan so many shit like the Maker can do, while they're unable to be as smart as to do the shit he does.

2. The bad guy always loses.
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>>94690341
Well Duggan has respected the idea of Goldlactus so there's hope
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>>94690380
Shit, I forgot a part
*Monica and America can easily take the Maker down in direct confrontation, while they're unable
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>>94689930
"The shield works as it was meant to be" pretty much means "The plot doesn't allow me to interfere"
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>>94689834
If I remember right, Maker said something about the physics of 616 allowing for crazier shit to happen than in 1610. I think the problem with that is that he recreated his Ultimates exactly as they were in their original universe, one where 616 Peter Parker is physically stronger than all of them.
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>>94690414
except for making a small difference - like waking up Quasar, I guess

There's still the elephant in the room about why was Ultimate Hulk in Earth and how did HydraCap pick him up.
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>>94690386
that's cool. What book and what did he do?
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>>94689848
I wish the DC entity would make a cameo
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>>94689938
Can you not read?
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>>94690470
I'll be honest, I was fully expecting Amalgam to make a cameo.

Still, Morrisonfags and HyperCrisisfags are going to get a boner out of all this - it changes the rules of the game as it concerns the Marvel Universe.
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>>94689908
Man, fuck marvel events and their bs
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>>94690219
>Ego is still a giant humanoid
Pay attention.
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>>94689985
Why are faggots like you ignoring the fact that combat here is metaphor. Anything goes.
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>>94690465
First issue of his Guardians run. The GotG make a purple galactus robot as a distraction and some aliens mention that Galactus supposed to be no longer hungry.
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>>94690246
>>inbetweener dead (maybe)
Pay attention.
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>>94689940
Man, I'm gonna miss this series. Thanks OP
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>>94690354
>>94690380
>He got outsmarted and outplayed by Sunspot like a chum.
>Went down without a fight in this issue
It's the very definition of a jobber, yes he reshaped the entire multiverse in one issue and there are infinity versions of him. But all of them are taking down so easily
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>>94690606
The Sunspot thing was dumb, but what could he really do here? Monica is fucking OP.
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>>94690606
Conservation of Ninjutsu rules
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>>94689888
oh you poor little thing Ego
you're not going to be a planet for long as long as it concerns synergy
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>>94690380
Makerfags really show their age sometimes.

I mean. Sure in 1610 the maker is the most dangerous guy ever but in 616 the tech level is 10x more advance and the heroes fight megalomaniac geniuses like the maker every fucking Thursday.

He might be special in his own reality but he is just another egocentric supervillain in theirs.
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>>94690639
you can chalk up the Sunspot thing to what Maker himself said back there - he was still getting accostumed to 616 rules and physics and was took down thanks to his inexperience in Prime universe.
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>>94689444
Smart Toni.
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>>94690639
>Monica is fucking OP.
I don't know, have some kind of portable shield that doesn't allow anyone or anything near him? Like that thing Fortune and Ocelot had in MGS2 that repels bullets
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>>94690219
>TOAA himself interfered for the first time in history

Unless he was the one who brought the others back, he only acted as a watcher.

>>94690513
What's weirder is that the amalgam was referenced even, though in a book barely anyone read.
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>>94690683
He was jobbing in his own reality, so Ewing is being faithful there.
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>>94689881
>the fourth
>Ewing you are never going to write that story and you know it
Ewing will get to write Fantastic Four one day. I command it.
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>the mystery intrigue TOAA
>fourth Eternity went into the mystery
What does it mean?
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>>94689825
>Inbetweener dead
But he's right there, just below Chaos.
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>>94689550
Reminder that Carol is the person that killed Ultimate Tony.
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>>94689532
>A faggot is strong only when firmly held

What did Ewing mean by this?
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>>94691010
Ah nvm.
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>>94690852
>>94690852
>fantastic 4
>being published ever again
kek
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>>94689732
The Tigerforce is serious business. Darkseid is the Tigerforce of the DC universe for example.
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>>94689959
>>94689532
So technically fascists are literally faggots?
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>>94689712
This is kaybe the Kirbiest page published in the last 25 years? or at least since Final Crisis?
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>>94689986
You have shit taste buddy.
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>>94689862
>first major appearance

Nigga that took place after the first volume of Ultimates. Don't make shit up.
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>>94689848
>Journey into Mystery
>True Believer
>Two-in-One
You cheeky fuck.
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>>94689848
>>94689860
I appreciate that The One Above All is the narrator.
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>>94690639
Maker had no problem stopping Monica when she tried to blow up Ultimate Earth.
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>>94689888
Ultimate Tony is alive? I'm gonna cry tears of joy
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>>94690860
Hickman is Fourth Eternity.
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>>94691409
Didn't she stop herself? That's how I remember it, she saw some Ultimate Earth kids or some shit and stopped herself.
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>>94691155
Yeah the Tigerforce has been around for awhile now
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>>94690179
>I wish Hank got shit on some more

Fuck off m8
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>>94690219
>Ego is still a giant humanoid
He pulled his head off.

>TOAA himself interfered for the first time in history
Not really. TOAA was just narrating everything. And beyond that, he "interfered" when he turned Adam Warlock into the new Living Tribunal.

>New celestials
To replace the ones that were killed in Time Runs Out.
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>>94689989
>And no inbetweener.
What? The Inbetweener was let out alongside Order and Chaos.
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>>94689692

This is pretty fuckin dope.
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>>94689303
>Hackman
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>>94689940

I'm gonna buy this in a trade as soon as I can.
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>>94689289
>that cover

they aren't really being subtle with the political statements.
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>>94691457
And then Maker trapped her, laughing at her hesitation.
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>>94691644
In what way is that fucking cover ""political""?
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>>94691697
>three white males holding the globe while women and poc scream at them
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>>94689756
He can't win in earth 616, the very nature of the universe prevents it. It's why everything he invents there comes out more cartoonish and over the top. Like when he recreated the city but it became O.M.N.I.T.R.O.N.I.C.U.S. it's just too different from the ultimate universe for him to be victorious.
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>>94691656
She really only got caught *because* she hesitated, if she didn't Ultimate Earth would have been obliterated, Maker didn't have time to react to her here.
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>>94691489
Ultimate Hank deserves all of the shit he gets flung at him, he's not half the scientist that 616 Hank is.
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>>94691804
He fully knows what she's capable of doing and had no safeguards whatsoever to prevent them. Not very smart for a supergenius.
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>>94691742
nigga, you're really looking for stuff to bait people with, aren't you?
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>>94691832
He's only a slice of the maker, cut him some slack.
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>>94691874
A bit unnecessary since "This America doesn't stand for your shit" and "muh fascism" are as obvious as it gets.
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>>94689861
>Comics, fuck yeah.
I'm right there with you, brother. Comics, fuck yeah.
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>>94691832
Did he even know they were coming though? Hell, does he even know that Monica is the same "living light" from back then?
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>>94691742
That's a bit of a stretch
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>>94691697
Please dont ban me. This was my first thought upon seeing the cover.
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>>94692021
Oh shit, now I see it...and can't unsee it. Thanks anon and I hate you
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>>94689692
>the Tiger God
>the first thing humanity ever feared
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>>94689568
"and a room full of geniuses......and Carol. Maybe she can get coffee or something"
fucking savage
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>>94689555
This, not to mention it was a heat of the moment stupid thing that even Ultimate Cap recognized as being a dumb thing and it's just there to make America Chavez look better.
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>>94691498
He send the other multiverses back from oblivion in order to capture and heal the first firmament.
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>>94692333
Did Millar actually write that?
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>>94689908

Galactus can't get through the shield but Quasar can. Jesus fuck.

Made all the more annoying because they will never, ever reference Quasar being that off-the-charts powerful again.

(not saying that Quaze shouldn't be powerful, IMO the quantum bands should elevate the wearer up to classical-Herald-level power. but it was such a last-minute asspull to allow Quaze to bring down something Galactus or a Nullifier Bomb (!) could not)
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:(
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>>94691832
Actually read the comic. Blue Marvel just stated what Monica did didn't seem possible and was theoretical.
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>>94690530

We understand metaphor-combat.

More powerful beings are still stronger, metaphorically, than weaker beings. And the Tiger God isn't anywhere near what it fought on the grand hierarchy of Powers.
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>>94692333
They mentioned slowly remembering everything else from before, so he probably didn't remember ever saying that until after he decided to talk things through.
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>>94689861
goddamn right
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>>94692402
Ewing can't catch a break lol
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>>94689918
Yeah but Cannibal Hulk and Wifebeater version of Hank get to live.
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>>94692402
No one was going to read this regardless. Instead you fed them false hope, which is par for the course.
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>>94692354
Yes after the battle is over Fury tells him he heard it and that it was funny and Steve tells him it was a stupid thing to say.
>>94692470
I could go with that but it's obvious Ewimg didn't like the character, he did kill him and no one gave a shit.
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>>94692354
Yes
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>>94689475
Why is she so cute here
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>>94689837
She's trying so hard to resist hitting him after CW2 and now seeing even an alt. universe version of him drinking again.
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>>94692155
Yeah, tigers can get fucked. It was probably leopards which chased us down out of the trees and into the caves.
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>>94692825
Or lions, but we do have the matter of Saber toothed tigers to consider.
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>>94689848
This is some Gurren Lagann shit right here.
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>>94691832
I don't think she's ever tried this absolute zero trick before

Last time they fought he trapped her in an opaque force bubble when she wasn't expecting it. This time she stayed out of the fight with the other Ultimates and hit him with a sneak attack
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>>94689712
This is extremely significant
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>>94689532
i don't think the high evo is usually this stupid, is he?
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>>94689848
It's like a hideous Grant Morrison fanfic....
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>>94689888
I hope to see the Ultimate crew again and I hope they retain their personalities but I doubt it.

I read comics here and there before but I got into comics for real when the Ultimate universe kicked off, I have a deep-seeded nostalgia for the whole ugly mess.
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>>94693443
Biology he is untouched. But The Maker is far smarter than him in everything else
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>>94693523
Carol, and America sure won't. Those two can only exist as badly written characters in their own books.

Monica and Adam will probably end up in whatever book Ewing writes next or they'll just end up in his US Avengers book.
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>>94693836
Reread the post you're quoting, but put more effort into it.
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>>94690219
what's the difference between old and new celestial?
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>>94693750
i don't know. maker comes off as pretty stupid in this run.
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>>94691038
I think he was pretty much alive before he just wanished with the rest of the earth.
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>>94693523
I would expect that a lot of writers would flock to the chance of writing not-Avengers.
>>
DC >>>>>>> This schlock
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>>94689444
fucking America bantz
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>>94694325
>no new posts by this IP
try harder
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>>94692705
cause she's all hot and sweaty
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>>94693023
>>94692825
It was probably the rain and cold that drove us out of the trees, not an animal.
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>>94689515
is there anything she cant do?
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>>94694145
well, I would think anyone should come off stupid when dealing with concepts beyond mortal thought
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>>94694431
He's not wrong, though.
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>>94689550
>spitting on shit
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>>94692444
but the abstract still feels fear you dunce
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>>94689532
>MY MACHINES!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIUB5-uUENg
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>>94689712
GOD DAMN SHES HOT
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>>94689848
muh dick
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>>94689834
Ultimate Hulk is shit regardless. When Ultimate Hulk fought against 616 Hulk, it was a onesided fight in favor of 616 Hulk. When Ultimate Hulk was infected and empowered by Galactus, Ultimate Hercules while drunk casually kicked Ultimate Hulk's ass. Honestly, Ultimate Hercules is the strongest one there is in the Ultimate universe.
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>>94689444
Can't believe I was actually hyped for this shit
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>>94689940
its a damn shame she is a carpet muncher
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>>94694325
>>94694593
Eh, depends on what you're talking about. If you mean the best of meta DC, then yes, you're right. If you mean garbage like Dark Nights: Metal, you can fuck right off.
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>>94694471
It was probably evolution but i feel like you didn't realize the whole mind tigers thing is a metaphor.
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>>94694518
get through Steve's Mary Sue shield
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>>94691050
Fascists are faggots
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>>94689834
>Colossus was only that strong because of mutant drugs
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>>94689974
So happy to know Lifebringer is saved.
God help the fool who editorial forces to undo it.
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>>94689550
I can't believe Tony Stark's alcoholism saved reality.
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>>94695502
>>94695502
notthe first time
>>
This sucked
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>>94689861
Man this feels so right.
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>>94689848
So Eternity is the one who "died" in Secret Wars, instead Infinity was restored?
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>>94690132
When Ewing makes Bendis-level sales, he can have an event.
>>94690191
>tfw too smart for events
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>>94689848
Even if it doesn't make sense i hope the fourth will look like this
Also having Eternity and Infinity being siblings, separated but whole, is a reference to those guys?
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>>94690800
>What's weirder is that the amalgam was referenced even, though in a book barely anyone read.

Where is the reference? I haven't read amalgam
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>>94696325
can you guess who peter's punching?
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>>94689379
He hasn't gotten the hang yet of abstract abs.
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>>94689834
Nah, Hickman's Hulk was always treated as the nuke that he was.

The Ultimates' entire plan to handle the City, a threat that had already eaten most of Europe, was basically to just tell Banner that Maker was talking shit so they could drop a Hulk on the City
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>>94696383
Not really, no
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>>94696383
It's either the Lizard or Morbius if we go by the original arc where he got the extra arms. Since he doesn't have a lab coat I'm leaning towards Morbius. The problem with that theory is that the art is copy/pasted so it doesn't match the original arc which leads me to a big no idea.
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>>94696649
>>94696497
Its Superman
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>>94696701
Ah. it's not actually extra arms and is actually just him punching really fast. I sort of recall the panel now but im not sure if it's my mind playing tricks on me.
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>>94691038
They were fighting but I don't think Carol actually got the killshot in.
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>>94689687
>>94692210
Hey she graduated top of her class at MIT to get her astrophysics degree. She's only outclassed because it's a bunch of comics-scale geniuses.
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>>94689762
>rips off Super-man

I'm okay with Ewing doing it but if this were Spencer, I'd be driving to Cleveland for blood.
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>>94692705
Because the only other time we see her she looks like a man
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>>94696816
At least you admit it.
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>>94696811
Yeah she doesn't remember that anymore
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>>94694955
When the hell did Ultimate Herc ever show up?
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>>94697041
Cataclysm Ultimates mini
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>>94689848
>>94689860

Must say the fifth is what i axpected
>>
Can someone pls annotate this.

I have no idea what the heck is going on but I love it.
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>>94689712
MUh DICk
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>>94689762
What were the other 4?
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>>94698301
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_(comics)
>The Celestials then return for follow-up visits or "Hosts" during which they monitor the subject planet's progress and make whatever modifications or interventions they deem appropriate. For example, approximately 21,000 years ago, the Celestials returned to Earth for the Second Host and found that the Deviants had created a vast empire across the world based on the continent of Lemuria, where they had conquered most of the primitive human tribes with their superior technology. They were also about to go to war with the original human inhabitants of the neighboring continent of Atlantis. The Celestials then destroyed Lemuria and sunk it under the ocean, utterly shattering the Deviants' empire and indirectly sinking Atlantis-therefore destroying both continents and reshaping the Earth.[4]
>Resenting the presence of the Celestials and their monitoring of Earth's progress, the Skyfather figures of Earth (i.e. Odin, Zeus) attempted to stop the Third Host, but were quickly outmatched. The Skyfathers then developed a convoluted plan to stop the Fourth Host via the use of the Odinsword and Destroyer armour
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>>94690852
I hope so, Ultimates was a bit of FF with different characters tbqh
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>>94689974

God bless Al Ewing
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>>94689963
Better than YA vol 2 ending with Power of Love
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>>94696383
that´s not amalgam universe (spiderboy is amalgam) that is a joint universe for Superman vs Spiderman.
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>>94696743
bottom left panel, from Superman vs Spiderman
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>>94689756
He has always been a shitty cuck so no
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>>94699622
Yeah, no. He actually came off as a credible threat before. Ewing just can't write him.
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>>94689848
Zero is Kirby, life, above all
First is Antilife
Second is Omega force, Darkseid
Third is Golden Age, Heroes Age start with Superman
Fourth is Silver Age, Stan Lee, will join the other when he dies in real time
Fifth is Bronze Age and a bit more...maybe Alan Moore Magic
Sixth is junction, Amalgam

Here Marvel Multiverse divides from DC Multiverse, separates multiverses, not more cross-overs (Thanks Quesada)

Seventh is Marvel before Secret Wars
Eight is new Marvel after Secret Wars (maybe will join with DC multiverse again?
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>>94699704
A credible threat in a universe that's really weak overall compared to 616?
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>>94689888
>they didn't bring back Cap
>all he did was job to America and then die
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>94692402
He's not wrong. I finally put my foot down and cancelled my entire pull list when the recent Nova series got cancelled.
If my money doesn't actually make a difference like I had foolishly believed, I'll go full trade-waitng.
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>>94700103
It really doesn't matter where he's from. This isn't about powerlevels. He shows up in the last act without any warning barring the "This year in Ultimates 2!" thing, twists some dials that have some informed effect, then loses.
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>>94689444
This page is everything wrong with Ewing as a writer.
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>>94700566
There aren't any needless cameos from characters nobody remembers, though.
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>>94700536
>He showed up in the last act without any warning

He gave a pretty big warning in the penultimate issue of New Avengers. He explained what happened to him at the end of secret wars, how Owen Reece stretched him across the multiverse, and he even explained his plan of evolving eternity, 10 issues before it actually happened.

>>94699826
Omega force actually refers to the omegas that fought the dark celestials in Fraction's defenders, they are a benevolent force and the opposite of the first firmament, the alpha and ultimate evil.

Barring that this is pretty interesting and you might want to save it for the hypercrisis threads.
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>>94700566
This post is everything wrong with anon as a critic.
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>>94700855
Which would be great, if this happened in New Avengers. But instead it's happening in a book that's almost completely unrelated.
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>>94699826
Perfect description. Underrated post
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>>94701114
>Which is almost completely unrelated

They've been related since the second issue of New Avengers, in which the makes mentioned mapping most of the previous multiverses by "excavating". The first arc of New Avengers was about the ghost of an elder god from the fifth cosmos infiltrating the new one. In fact, the first mention of the eternity war was in New Avengers, not in Ultimates. Then the first arc of U.S.Avengers dealt with a possible future in which Thanos got away with the plan he was executing in Ultimates.
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>>94690065
>15 year olds are child-sized

Where does this meme come from? Most people are done growing by 15.
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>>94690219
>>TOAA himself interfered for the first time in history
remember that time he came down just to tell Peter Parker to let his aunt die (and also eat a hot dog)?
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>>94689428
Holy fuck what great punch art.
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>>94689990
Humanity has conquered 42% of the multiverse, they're the most dominant species in existence
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>>94689458
In this very series America was canonically superfast at a substantial portion of lightspeed. Cap should have no chance.
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>>94699826
Nope. Universe 6 is galans
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>>94689848
So what do these all represent?
>>
Maker always goes out like a bitch, doesn't he?
It seems like every time, he could have just not been stupid and completely won the day.
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>>94701519
I mean that assumes that America is going full out against a human mook
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>>94701432
First significant interfereance. Like actually moving his fingers to solve a conflict instead of just spilling philosophy.
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>>94701507
WE WUZ
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>>94703134
>>94701507
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>>94703134
PRINCES OF THE UNIVERSE
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>>94689974
You know, we need a new Destroyer of Worlds to take the place of Galatus to make it pointless for anyone to ever be changed him back.

Hint, hint.
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>>94701507
man that is not the page I thought I posted
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>>94703396
I'm ok with this
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>>94689568
Ultimate Pym is not present because Carol KO him with one punch. Batman would be proud.
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>>94689444
ugh why is the art so bad? the coloring is worse than a deviantart webcomic, this page is as far as I could get
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>>94689475

>Ultimate Cap giving someone the benefit of the doubt

the least in-character thing I've ever seen. Mark Millar must be climbing into a grave to spin in.
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>>94704007
we should be so lucky
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>>94704007
Well, even the Maker had his jaw on the floor when that happened.
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>>94701344
>Most people are done growing by 15.
What kind of manlet meme is that?
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>>94689303
>My only weapon is love

Indeed
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>>94706150
"The mystery intrigues me" is also a quote from his appearance in Waid's F4.
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>>94690023

What was the point of new 52, if they were just going to Rebirth?
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>>94708226
Rebirth is good though so you can ignore the bad parts
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>>94689550
Best Tony is back
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>>94689289
I'm glad Ewing was able to finish up the story in this issue, but I do feel bad that he had to wrap up everything when he could have had more time to expound upon things with a few more issues.
Meanwhile Bendis is just gonna keep stretching his narratives out forever. Love to see how that idiot handles one of his books getting cancelled before he has a chance to wrap things up properly.
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>>94699826
>when he dies in real time
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>>94699826
>That fourth description

You made me sad Anon
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>>94699826
>Seventh is Marvel before Secret Wars
>Eight is new Marvel after Secret Wars (maybe will join with DC multiverse again?


Here is what i don't get.
We knew Eternity and Infinity co-existed before Secret Wars, and we also know that the Beyonders were going to create a new Multiverse, but Franklin Richards saved the old one, and Eternity is said to be both the Eighth and the Seventh incarnation since then.

So, why exactly Infinity "died"?
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>>94708663
I would have loved to have this as an event or at least a more detailed story arc, but i guess that's all we deserve.
Ewing made the Marvel cosmos interesting again, i hope someone will follow his steps now

Also he was the only one in the current Marvel to write a decent America Chavez
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>>94708961
Infinity was the abstract of all of physical space while Eternity was the abstract of time and every living thing.

I guess now Infinity died with the Seventh Multiverse, and thus represents it in death, while now Eternity is the only representation of the Eighth.
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>>94691804
>>94691832
Funnily enough that issue was also written by Ewing
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>>94692155
Tiger God is just the personification of the first fear, that is said to be the fear of the dark (unknown)
It says that too in the very page you quoted
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>>94709114
that's what Darkseid, THE TIGER-FORCE AT THE CORE OF ALL THINGS, is, to coin a phrase
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>>94699826
Well, Sixth's armor kind of looks like this >>94696305 tbqh
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>>94689848
>No loli Multiverse

Ewing you had your chance and you blew it
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>>94709421
we already have Singularity for that
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>>94708226
New 52 was going for 6 years. Secret Wars event ended in jan 2016.
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>>94701432
>for the first time in marvel history toaa comes down to tell peter things will be okay
>peter then sells his marriage to the devil

Only in Marvel can the devil win with no repercussions for almost a decade.
>>
>>94689362
thank god they make clothes in Ego-Prime's size
>>
>>94689690
yeah nowhere else she could really fit
>>
>>94689888
Wait, did Ult-Tony just made a refrence to Elmer Fudd?
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>>94709927
yes
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>>94689963
if anybody's gonna do it, it's ewing
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>>94689983
No
>>
>>94689940
>Developed for television by Lauren Faust
>>
>>94689655
>>94689673
Too bad Logos didn't really amount to much in the end, he had the coolest design
>>
>>94689848
So who called the Ultimate Ultimates? The Eighth Eternity or TOAA?
>>
>>94689848
I really want a story where the Piligrim comes back after he found a bigger evil and the Multiverses have to assemble again.

But really, there is no way the True-Beliver isn't Stan
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>>94689989
>So life bringer is sticking

Just wait until Bendis/Soule/Waid gets their hands on it.
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>>94708961
They are 2 faces of the same coin, I guess that since eternity 7 and 8 are pretty much identical, and since infinity hadnt shown up yet because she's redundant, it was for the best to make her the 7th cosmos
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>>94711126
I guess Eternity called them and TOAA send them/acted through them
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>>94689444
HE SAID THE THING !!
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>>94689555
we fucking do, pussy
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>>94689692
WE
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>>94689908
So what's the meaning behind Galactus words ??
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>>94692705
Because she worked for and earned this victory.
>>
Has there ever been a marvel book with so many cosmic entities in a single issue? We got

>Galactus
>The Shaper of worlds
>Ego
>The infinaut
>The Psi-hawk
>Eternity
>Infinity
>Death
>Oblivion
>The Never Queen
>The celestials
>The Aspirants
>The tiger god
>Logos
>Order
>Chaos
>In betweener
>Living tribunal
>The first firmament
>The second, third, fifth and sixth multiverses, with mention of a lost fourth one

Even TOAA was there. I don't think there were this many cosmic beings even in the infinity gauntlet
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>>94712773
He isn't going to solve their problems for them because it's not his call, but he ca subtly heal quasar so that she might break the shield.
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>>94692155
darkside is the ultimate jobber
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>>94689908
So he cured Quasar?
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>>94689289
cosmic bump
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>>94712815
Marvel: The End might have had more, been a long while since I read it though.
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>>94712815
>The Psi-hawk
>The tiger god
>>
This was a wild ride. I have been reading Ultimates since it was released, because one kind anon storytimed Loki Agent of Asgard and I fell in love with Ewing's writing.

What else can I really say. It's just the fucking best comic book in current Marvel.

I would have liked to be able to support Ewing but unfortunately I can't; however, I will make sure to buy the books of him that are released in my country. It's the least he deserves for penning such an epic tale.
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>>94714245
They've obviously been amped. The tiger god is the embodiment of primal fear, while the psi hawk is a living field of psychic might
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>>94709060
This is true only for the minor versions of Eternity and Infinity, the ones in this issue are the personifications of the Multiverse as a whole, not just a single universe
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Ultimate bump
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>>94689692
I still can't get over Eqings habit of ruining his epics with shitty dialogue. he needs an editor ASAP

>>94689848
those hickman names, tip top kek
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>>94689848
>Fifth is an edge lord

Good job man
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>>94715179
>we live in the timeline where the New Universe's equivalent of Captain Planet is a cosmic entity on par with lesser abstracts
What a time to be alive.
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>>94717513
The robe should have been more gandalf and less trench coat.
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>>94712916
Yep. He's the lifebringer, not the destroyer. He couldn't destroy the shield, but he was able to breath life into Quasar and power her up enough to destroy it.
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>>94694610
But the Tiger God is specifically Humanity's first fear

If it's not human it shouldn't be affected
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>>94689379
first time I notice First Firmament's face looks a lot like Maker's helmet. I feel dumb.
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>>94691476
Also, the Second Eternity is the origin of the Omega Force.
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>>94692444
>More powerful beings are still stronger, metaphorically, than weaker beings
Not [Right Now]: the Universal Balance is still forming, the same situation that gave Order&Chaos the ability to overrule Tribunal Warlock.

By joining with Black Panther, the Tiger God managed to reach the one place where "Hierarchy" was "Metaphorical".
And the Fear of the Dark Outside The Cave is stronger than "Imposed Law" because it's "Irrational" causing imbalance in Logos(or, more correctly, making him more balanced and therefore splitting it back in Order, Chaos and In-Between)

A Priest-Politician Manipulating Fear to defeat Law. T'Challa is Glorious Godfrey.
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>>94696305
>having Eternity and Infinity being siblings, separated but whole, is a reference to those guys?
They always been that, or at least since Infinity War.
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>>94704007
>>Ultimate Cap giving someone the benefit of the doubt
>
>the least in-character thing I've ever seen.

This is pointed-out in the comics itself. Maybe being re-created, or even just BEING, in the 616 makes the Ultimates less assholes?
Like it technically makes Maker more (cartoonish)stupid
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>>94715344
the minor version mirror the greater versions.
Live above, so under.

the [Space] that was the Seventh Multiverse died.
But unlike 6 times before, the Story didn't start again from zero, but continued.

Eternity-8 is still the same Eternity-7 who has kept on living, but Infinity-8 is not Infinity-7.
It's the Same Story in a New Space.
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>>94717681
yes, but by merging with T'Challa he managed to access the Dimension of Manifestations\Outside where he became the scariest thing in the room because... there were no other "fear" entity and it bring with him T'Challa who as a human made him work.
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>>94703272
Fuck hydra cap, bring back god emperor of mankind cap
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>>94717681
>Sea and Star
>not Starfish
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