Are guys like Sabretooth and Bullseye actually good villains

>>94686539
They aren't mutually exclusive anon.

Are guys like Wolverine and Punisher good heroes or just edgelords?

>>94686539
Edgelords like the Joker. Evil for the sake of evil. Killing because they are super evil.

>>94686539
I guess i could have started the thread a little better.
The Joker gets a lot of shit for being A TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHPATH and not an interesting character. Does the same critique apply to these two given that their characters can be boiled down to "I only kill for the lulz"

>>94686596
But that's not Sabretooths motivation
at all.

>>94686614
maybe not but every Creed story i've read where he plays a villain he kills at least one innocent person because he likes it.

>>94686539
I want sabretoot to sit on my face

is Juggernaut just the best

>>94686539
Is good guy Sabertooth still a thing?

>>94686596

Sabretooth is/was was a murderer who killed people as an employee of bigger villains, like Sinister, comparable to a murderer who works for drug lords.
He is a good villain because he is pretty normal, men like him exist in our world, men like the Joker dont exist in our world.

>>94688102

Yes, and I like him more than OML or the dead Wolverine, but I would prefer it to have 616 Sabretooth as a villain and Age of Apocalypse one as a hero (but he is dead)

>>94686697
his killing urges are better explained in his solos; Death Hunt and Back to Nature.

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>>94686697
>>94688224

I dug up an old link to some anon's folder. You can get Death Hunt here but it doesn't have Back to Nature.

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/d42f4z6c056ce/Sabretooth

It always depends on who's writing.

Both are better villains than Carnage or Purple Man at least.