ITT: series that will be remembered as future classics

>>94669742
Hard to say after only one issue, but it's interesting so far. Honestly all of King's miniseries are good, while his ongoing work on Batman is hot garbage. He should stick to minis.

>>94669742
Vision

>>94669742
Suicide!
Darkseid is!
Suicide!
Darkseid is!
Suicide!

Truly a classic emblematic of these bountiful times.

>>94669742
so his name really is
scott freeman?

>>94670099
Yeah, Kirby is dated.

>>94670113
the 70's where a hell of a drug

PTSD and autism epitomized

>>94669742
The first issue was great

>>94669742
> Things that were said about other comics King wrote already forgotten

There are no more destined classics, you're lucky if people give a shit about your comic after the first trade with how comics press is designed. You rarely see fanfare when a comic ends.

>>94670113
I know he should have had more of his heroes slashing their wrists.

>>94671715
>still this triggered
Pretty sad

I hope King never touches character's that I care about
>hurrrr durrr let's make fun character's edgy
muhhh serious comics

>>94670099
Scott Free
Kirby might be dated- but he is Kirby.
This stuff is going to be dated too, and will just go on the heap with the rest of the forgotten fourth world shit that nobody reads.

>>94671797
It'll be more remembered than 70's ongoings no one cares about.

>>94671797
Stan pls

>>94671736
Not as sad as the people fellating an author who's one trick is making superheroes suicidal like it's the deepest thing in the world.

>>94671772
I don't have to listen to someone who doesn't know how commas work.

>>94670099
Even better Scott Free

>>94670113
Fuck off he's the literal god of freedom

>>94672628
>buttmad kirbyfag

>>94670382
This, it's all about the push for sales before the first issue and the first trade. Unless your in the triple digit number of issues, no one gives a fuck about the actual content of the story or prestige of the series. Comics press was bought out long ago. They get scoops in exchange for hype. Sequart is pretty much dead, and has moved into other media, nothing else was ever worth a damn

>>94672297
He's using other tricks in this comic, like the unreliable POV of a main character, Chekhov's gun with the "how god looks like" thing, etc. You just want the characters to be campy 70s walking jokes and have KAPOW panels everytime they throw a punch.

This comic may not be for you

>>94672037
Haha. So tender.
The 70's series nobody cares about is getting reprinted twice this year alone.

>>94672693
>Unless your in the triple digit

*Unless you're in the triple digit

King >>>>>>>>>> Morrison

>>94671772
>I never read Kirby's New Gods

>>94672706
Thanks mate, missed that one

King is the perfect choice to bring substance to these characters. It reads a lot like Lemire's Moon Knight.

>>94672697
Yes this comic isn't for me because I don't automatically equate trotting out the unreliable narrator trope with good writing, and don't think that spamming ideas over and over again deserved to be labeled as Chekhov's gun. And I also don't think name dropping Chekhov's gun makes you smart.

>>94672798
They already had more substance than anything King has ever written four decades before he ever picked up a pen.

>>94672798
>It reads a lot like Lemire's Moon Knight.
I don't even care that much for King but why are you insulting his work?

>>94672860
>And I also don't think name dropping Chekhov's gun makes you smart.
And you're right. Reducing the writing of this issue to "lel so edgy he tries to kill himself king=hack" makes you dumb as fuck though

>>94673038
Explain how opening your first issue of your run of an iconic superhero with a splash page of him bleeding from his wrists having just attempted to kill himself is anything but edgy hackery of the highest caliber. Bonus points if you manage to ignore how he's done pretty much exactly the same thing with Batman.

>>94673038
Not that anon but maybe this summary is more accurate. It's a meandering mess of an issue that is clearly relying too much on its gimmicks and it's "new" take on Mister Miracle without providing a hook to draw anyone in and it fails to even be entertaining to anyone who's a fan of Scott because he's such a non entity in this narrative.

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Only right answer

>>94669742
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, it's only been one issue so far.

>>94673239
Yeah, but Brainlet loves to hate on King so much.

>>94673297
>Brainlet
*Brainlets

>>94673333
No, Brainlet. It's just one guy.

>>94673164
>>94673229
He's a guy who's been raised in a living hell of a planet in an orphanage ruled by a sadistic old woman, having him having issues is not that far fetched. Introducing your take on the character like that and then playing with ambiguity the rest of the issue plays into the conception of Scott not knowing what's real and what's not. We still don't know why, maybe Darkseid has the antilife equation and reality is bending towards his will, and he's playing with Scott. Or maybe Scott has lost his mind due to the abuse he received when he was a kid. The point of this comic was to present us a broken man who doesn't know if he's being manipulated by an evil god or is just going insane.

Literally the same kind of unreliable narrative can be found in Pynchon's work, especially the Crying of Lot 49. That books ends up with the crying of Lot 49, some stamps, the key to explain if it was all schizoid paranoia or a real conspiracy.

Please feel free to argue why any of this is bad but remember that "hackery" and "gimmicks" aren't arguments

>>94673556
>character has gone through his shit in other stories
>instead of seeding this idea of underlying issues beyond what he's gone through
>just have him slit his wrists at the start

What an engaging story.

>>94673613
No arguments then?

>>94673613
They hint the abuse, the mention the hardships they go through when they speak with Orion

>>94673235
Well played, sir.

>>94673164
>Iconic
Oh come on, he's not fucking Superman. He's maybe the 4th most recognizable New God, with his wife being more recognizable. You faggots would have crucified Alan Moore and Frank Miller in the early 80s for their takes on Swamp Thing and DD

>>94673164
Pretty good way to get the idea across he's been through some shit.

>>94673883

>>94673613
>record scratch
>I bet you're wondering how it all came to this.

>>94673883
Yeah, like having a bad guy sit on a throne of skulls shows how evil he is.
It is genius.

>>94674004
I will call you Bitch King.

>>94670382
Yet his Vision won an Eisner.

>>94673556
I love superhero stories that take Kirby characters and present them as insane suicidal wrecks that all of a sudden cannot handle their integral backstories as we watch them slowly go insane while failing at overcoming obstacles on every level. Props for comparing King to Pynchon because they both use unreliable narratives though, really confirms my theory about his fans being so desperate to appear smart that they don't even really care about the content of what they are reading as long as it has all the superficial trappings of depth.

>>94674043
Gotten to.

>>94673883
If you're 12 years old.

>>94674152
>>94674173
>capes should be stupid like me
OK.

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>>94674152
>I love superhero stories that take Wein/Wrightson characters and present them as insane suicidal wrecks that all of a sudden cannot handle their integral backstories as we watch them slowly go insane while failing at overcoming obstacles on every level.
This is you circa 1982, also change the names to Lee/Everett for another one you'd be all over. And no I don't think that this book is as good (there's one fucking issue), but the argument that "IT'S DIFFERENT SO IT'S SHIT" is so fucking retarded

>>94674181
What would you say your primary intellectual achievenamnt as a reader comics is, anon?

>>94674218
Spotting anons with a hateboner.

It was shit though. I don't know why DC put someone like King on this even after his Batman. They should've put a good writer like Lobdell or Tomasi on this. DC should've also known that edgy comics no longer works after their failure with the nu52. I'd recommend last week's Hal and Pals if anybody wants to read a good New Gods book.

>>94674181
>Suicide is deep
Ok

>>94674188
It won an Eisner for teen books. Nice try.

>>94674236
So flustered.
Don't ever change.

>>94674245
>a good writer like Lobdell or Tomasi
Work on your shitposting, Brainlet.

>>94674259
Yes, it is.

>>94674211
It's shit because you yourself admit taking a superhero and applying a dark dose of reality to him is supremely unoriginal, even if we leave aside how blunt, forced, and poorly conceived it is in this instance.

>>94674266
>it doesn't count.

>>94674152
>a literal characterfag

>>94674272
>>94674292
>>94674295
Here's one. So, looking forward to MM #2, Brainlet?

>>94674281
Not once you stop hanging out at hot topic.

>>94674281
>He's not reading Superman and Red Hood

>>94674302
Multiple people you retarded pathetic fuck.

>>94674310
>hot topic
I'm starting to think you're not the intellectual you say you are, Brainlet.

>>94672798

>Lemire's Moon Knight

Oh come, King isn't THAT bad.

>>94674292
>Following the footsteps of great creators is unoriginal
So Moore and Miller are hacks because Squadron Supreme did it first?

>>94674338
No King is a hack because he has minute fraction of the writing ability of those guys.

>>94674338
>Squadron Supreme
Wasn't this Marvel calling the JL a bunch of fascists?

>>94674355
they are a bunch of fascists though

>>94669742
I'll say that it's the only readable capeshit that's being currently printed.

>>94674152
Glad you love campy characters from the 70s getting depth and characterization, I was taking you for a brainlet characterfag who couldn't follow a funny book and would get triggered by a valid comparison to other stories with similar narrative devices. I'm glad to be wrong, anon

>>94674353
>minute fraction

>>94674361
I knew you hated DC, Brainlet.

>>94674355
Maybe read a comic you fucking faggot

>>94674327
I'm starting to get flattered by all this attention, memelord.

>>94674378
>>94674382
How many online meltdowns so far, Brainlet?

>>94674353
So it isn't bad because of King's premise, it's bad because King is bad? Nice tautology retard.

>>94674376
the entire world is basically at the beck and call of the JL, this is more obviously shown in Earth-3

>>94674355
Squadron Supreme has got to be the most overrated comic ever. It never did any genre deconstruction or was as any good as Watchmen, yet gets compared to it all the time.

>>94674373
>Brainlet
>you just don't get it!!

>>94674373
I know anyone who couldn't follow a funny book that opens with a superhero committing suicide and has half of it's content made up by the same four words over and over again must be a real fucking dummy. I pity them honestly.

>>94674373
He isn't getting depth or characterization though. He's being contorted and molded into a pathetic shell of what he was to suit the ridiculous narrative.

>>94674396
I'm >>94674378 as well as >>94674338 fuck off faggot

>>94674408
Gruenwald deserved the death he had.

>>94674421
>>94674425
Why so triggered? Is suicide a tradition in your family or what?

>>94674427
Brainlet.

>>94674397
The premise is tired, lazy, and poorly executed. If he had any writing ability maybe he could make it interesting, it was actually done very similarly a decade ago really well, but he doesn't so it's not.

>>94674408
Because it's a precursor? Like How stagecoach is a precursor to great westerns like the Searchers

>>94674450
Precursor of what?

>>94674408
Squadron Supreme came out before Watchmen pleb

>>94674446
This is the company King fans keep. Always remember that.

>>94674447
I actually agree with you, I just want you to stop arguing terribly, and we have arrived at a serious argument here, thank you

>>94674450
Both movies are by the same director, you doofus.

>>94674466
And?

>>94674465
Miracleman for sure, which is a clear precursor to watchmen

>>94674445
Why are you assuming I'm offended by making him suicidal? I'm offended by making him suicidal without adding anything else added to his character. Slapping suicidal tendicies onto a character isn't depth.

>>94674414
>>94674421
>>94674425
>a guy who's been through horrible abuse in a planet with literal fire pits has issues
>this is shown by showing the guy trying to kill himself
Explain to me why this is bad. Nightmare mode, no "edgy", "gimmick", "hot topic" or whatever meme buzzword you want to pass for an argument

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>>94674487
>Why are you assuming I'm offended by making him suicidal? I'm offended by making him suicidal

>>94674474
No shit? But he honed his craft

>>94674468
Rewording my argument to portray me as someone who doesn't like change in order to "make me argue better" makes you the emperor pretentious shitheel in this thread, which is an achievement you should be proud of.

>>94674483
Both were realistic superhero comics, but neither was the first and neither of them was a deconstruction. It's reduced to a buzzword now that keeps getting thrown around.

>>94674494
I wouldn't expect a brainlet like you to understand.

>>94674487
>Slapping suicidal tendencies onto a character isn't depth.
It is, Brainlet.

>>94674512
>Nightmare mode, no "edgy", "gimmick", "hot topic" or whatever meme buzzword you want to pass for an argument

>>94674512
Thanks anon maybe you'll continue being less of a fucking retard going forward, but I highly doubt it

>>94674494
Because the whole point of the character is that he triumphed over his violent upbringing in literal hell, you stupid sad excuse for a human being.

>>94674503
Congrats on not being able to fuck read the rest of it you absolute mongoloid. Suicidal characters have been done before and quite well. But not when that seems to be the entire crux of the character.

>>94674549
>you stupid sad excuse for a human being. Why don't you kill yourself?
Fixed, Brainlet.

>>94674534
Hopefully I'll have you to rephrase what I'm saying and then educate me on why that's wrong.

>>94674549
>Actually arguing with kingfags.
Dude, they're like a year from discovering Blankets. It's not worth the effort.

>>94674573
Notice how he doesn't address the substance of the argument.

>>94674549
>>94674584
>Brainlet has to resort to samefagging
Definitely Btich Aaron 2.0.

>>94674557
>One page where Scott has slit his wrists
>entire crux of the character

>>94674612
Literally the title page of the opening issue.

>>94674602
Give him time to get a suitable copypasta.

>>94674528
Read what I said about meme buzzwords

>>94674549
Oh no, so he was weak and failed to overcome the torture he went through like real people in real life do all the time. What a hack, that doesn't sound to depth or characterization at all! He should have written him like another alien flying brick who can do no wrong, that's deep

>>94674584
Blankets is another overrated comic. I never got the praise for it.

>>94674608
>brainlet has to resort to accusations of samefagging in a thread full of shitposters shitposting.
Fair.

>>94674612
Are you implying that the entire issue didn't revolve around the sucide attempt? For fucks sake everyone treats him like he could try again at any time if they don't keep their eye on him.

>>94674519
How is it not a genre deconstruction? Revealing the contradictions and impossibilities of the superhero genre. I mean for fuck's sake it's almost impossible to have a purist deconstruction in a comic anyways because that's about the relationship of text/language and its impossibility to truly define things, while comics have images that absolutely define things inherently. Fuck off

>>94674620
So, one page?

>>94674630
>Read what I said about meme buzzwords
Make me

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>>94674608
What was that Bitch Boy?

>>94674659
>copy a text from the Internet
>add some foul language to make it look mine
>post it
>????
>PROFIT!

>>94674677
>phoneposter
Oh, this keeps getting better and better.

>>94674630
I know I wish Kirby had had him kill himself as a child because that's much more realistic and therefore better writing and is what we all want out of our superheroes!

>>94674665
Yes, the title page. A splash page.

>>94674705
>a superhero who knows how to escape death time and again shouldn't put himself in deadly situations
I smell a casual here.

>>94674659
That's not what genre deconstruction is.

My new favorite thread.

>>94674630
>Oh no, so he was weak and failed to overcome the torture he went through like real people in real life do all the time. What a hack, that doesn't sound to depth or characterization at all! He should have written him like another alien flying brick who can do no wrong, that's deep
Anon he made it out of hell and was living a happy life with Oberon and Barda.

>>94674729
So, one page?

>>94674705
>we all
Not all sadly, some manchildren seem to be pretty triggered about it ITT

>>94674750
And this one: >>94667703

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>>94674683
>mfw I have a took multiple courses on structuralism while getting a literature degree but some retard on 4chan is gonna tell me I don't know shit because he can't think of a counterargument

>>94674753
>he got physically out of hell after years of abuse and has a gf so he was fine
That's how it works huh?

>>94674705
No, anon, we all want safe and comfy superhero comics. Look at how cereal lord is redefining the medium by putting fun back in superhero comics in Rebirth.

>>94674806
>takes multiple courses on structuralism
>posts in 4chan instead of discussing Structuralism with his colleagues
Well, isn't that disappointing.

>>94670099
Isn't it also a scot-free pun?

>>94674703
Notice how he once again doesn't address the substance of the post.

>>94674836
So I'm wrong because I'm on 4chan? Sorry most of my friends aren't literature majors

>>94674776
I wish they could be mature like us and demand that every superhero attempts to commit suicide at least once in their careers. We deserve that much.

>>94674705
>a realistic take on a campy character is bad because the character has to remain they way it is!
Before we go on, do you have autism by any chance?

>>94674871
>most of my friends aren't literature majors
So you feel like the smartest guy in the gang, huh? Cheeky bastard.

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>>94673235
meme series

>>94674831
And look at how King is on their flagship title making Batman slit his wrists.

>>94674895
Maybe about comics and other books, but not about shit like biology, physiology, engineering or sound recording

>>94674913
Yes, Johns' editorial on rebirth is getting some GOAT comics made, anon. Tomasi's Superman is literally changing the medium.

>>94674931
>shit like biology, physiology, engineering or sound recording
Dude. I'm no good at sciences either, but I don't hate them like you do.

But then again, you hate a writer and his fans just because you don't like his comics...

>>94674886
>I need omnipotent Godlike comic book characters to commit suicide in order to enjoy reading about them!

Before we go any further, have you graduated middle school?

>>94674950
I mean to be fair Tomasi's Supes is at least pushing the character further along his logical trajectory rather than stagnating him. It of course will eventually be rebooted or OMD'd but still, definitely a good sign for capes that Lois and Supes have a kid

it was pretty cool i guess, i never read any new gods books before

>>94674882
I disagree anon, making Iron Man an alcoholic was a bad idea too. He should have been a snarky millionaire with a suit that makes him a flying brick, fighting a new mad scientist every month for a 100 years. That's what people want and the reason the comic industry is doing so good, because doing the same all the time works just fine and new takes on characters like TDKR did for Batman are bad

>>94674968
Something tells me you weren't accepted in /lit/.

>>94674950
It's not even changing the wet diaper that was the New 52.

>>94674968
If they try to commit suicide they aren't that godlike now are they? That's kind of the point, my brainlet friend

>>94674958
Whut, I don't hate them, nor do I hate King, nor do I hate his fans, what are you talking about? How are you getting this from me claiming Squadron Supreme and Miracleman are deconstruction?

>>94674993
Something tells me you take being accepted on a board on 4chan (especially one about literature) as a point of pride instead of the fucking embarassent that it is.

>>94675024
>I don't hate them, nor do I hate King, nor do I hate his fans
Nice backpedaling, Brainlet.

>>94675042
Jesus christ you've gone mad.

>>94674984
>I mean to be fair Tomasi's Supes is at least pushing the character further along his logical trajectory rather than stagnating him.
No, it's fucking unreadable writing wise.

>>94674992
What they should have done is had Tony Stark be suicidal, because having him just be a drunk isn't dark enough and is therefore not complex enough. We've recently rectified the situation with Batman though, thank God. I was really tired of him being a superhero that was trying to do good in the world instead of one that was doing it to channel his suicidal tendencies.

>>94675033
>>94675056
>he's embarrassed to be here
>doesn't leave, instead keeps melting down and being laughed at
I love to go to bed laughing. See you the day after they publish Mister Miracle #2, Brainlet!

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>>94670099
Speaking of his name, what was this about?

>>94675059
Doesn't contradict the idea that the most famous Superhero of all having some character progression is good for the genre. If DC's editorial is letting it happen to Superman, they'll let it happen elsewhere

>>94674992
Are you implying that neither of the characters had any depth before that?

>>94675071
Sweet dreams, I hope you enjoyed your only social interaction for the day!

>>94675106
Yes, all King fans equate tragedy and suicide with depth, especially in relation to superhero comics.

>>94675071
Nigger you are talking to two different people like they are one, you obviously have gone mad.

>>94675094
What's good for the genre is good writing. Tomasi's Superman is a shitty book with one dimensional portrayal of all the characters.

>>94675140
Easier to have good writing with editors who are open to tearing down the shitty traditions of the genre

>>94675068
Oh so you're fine with campy heroes being given realistic problems, you just don't like that the problem is that Scott is suicidal. That's even more stupid, jesus christ

>>94675159
I know, thank God for the New 52.

>>94675159
>shitty traditions of the genre
What traditions are that then?

>>94675068
No, they should've made Scott and Barda have a child so they could've had pie, punched monsters together and went on a wholesome road trip. I could've posted it on r/comics for plenty of up votes.

>>94674787
Thanks, I haven't been in that one yet. I'll have to go see if I can help out.

>>94675159
Oh yeah, Tomasi is literally rewriting the genre with his great writing.

>>94675193
Both have the exact same amount of substance.

>>94675188
One of them certainly would be "Characters generally aren't allowed to have big life events that age them like marriages or children"

>>94675217
No, anon. Superman the Kents smiling and eating pie together. That's a lot better than the unrealistic portrayal of superheroes in mister miracle.

>>94675166
You're implying that Tony's alcoholism is a fucking 1:1 comparison to Scott's suicidal tendencies. There's a very distinct defence between the two and it's that one is well written while the other isn't.

>>94675214
See, you're the only one who has called the comic good (obviously sarcastically), I've just called the potential effects on the genre and the editorial attitude it reflects good. But keep trying to change the argument so you can stroke your hate boner

>>94675166
No I'm not fine with superheroes being given realistic problems when it's done in the most obvious and lazy way imaginable and sits there waiting for its standing ovation.

I mean, this level of autism doesn't come from Kirbyfags. I know those guys, they are obnoxious but not this much. This is marvelfags buttpained about a z-lister written by an ex Marvel writer outselling Secret Empire and getting praise from critics and readers

>>94675242
By substance I meant thematic depth.

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>>94675226
wow so new

>>94675247
>There's a very distinct defence between the two and it's that one is well written while the other isn't.
I agree, Demon in the Bottle is overrated trash

>>94675068
Did you have a failed suicide attempt and then go on to turn your life around aside from the PTSD surrounding said attempt? For fuck's sake, hate the comic all you'd like but it just isn't nearly as bad as you are claiming it is. Next you're gonna tell me that Chuck Austen is better than King.

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>>94675281
how did Johns and Tomasi think of such an inspired idea

>>94675261
Nice company wars.

>>94675281
>Literally blacklisted at Marvel
>We don't even know what the situation with the kids is post secret wars
Thanks for proving my point

>>94675226
Anon I agree but you're being very oblivious to the examples that prove you wrong.

>>94675068
I don't recall Tony growing up in a hellish planet and being tortured by an alien who looks like an old lady. If that's the case, him having PTSD and being suicidal can make sense, yes

>>94675300
No King got PTSD in the Middle East and started to feel suicidal, then decided vomiting that up repeatedly would be a substitute for writing a story.

>>94675318
>staple of comics for four decades
>gone for a few years
point proven brutha

>>94675337
>30 years of stories where Scott has moved past that because he's the God of Freedom. Such as Freedom from his shitty past.

But no, it is good writing to have him slit his wrists

>>94675337
I know what was Kirby thinking when he had him escape and become a superhero? Thank Highfather King is here to rectify that grave error!

>>94675300
Nah man he has realistic psychological issues instead of fighting dinosaurs or some shit, so it was bad. We don't want to be edgy™, right?

>>94669832
Vision was an ongoing. Even if it only eareachee mmd mini length.

>>94675445
*only reached mini

>>94675358
>>94675365
>w-why don't they do the same thing a-again?
So it was autism all along

>>94675445
Everything at Marvel is a limited series.

>>94675407
I know God forbid we rely on suicide as a substitute for actual substance.

>>94675354
>staple of comics for 4 decades
>Kids are main characters for about 1
>Removed from the universe at first chance

>>94675496
>Why don't they do the same thing, but this time we'll have our hero be suicidal! That's super deep!

So it was a middle schooler all along.

>>94675507
Having suicidal tendencies because of traumatic events in the past is substance, anon

>>94675518
so your saying DC copied what Marvel did for the past decade

>>94675539
Not when used as a matter of fact instead of built up somewhat. Actual content.

>>94675539
Rote, tired, hackneyed substance that flies directly in the face of the characters extensive history and entire purpose.

>>94675518
>Removed from the universe at first chance
Anon quit pretending that editorial can't make characters disappear whenever they want and for whatever reason they want.

>>94675599
I mean of course they can but they often attempt to use a convenient excuse like a multiversal reboot

>>94675593
>extensive history and purpose
So you're just a characterfag? Opinion discarded.

>>94675569
>>94675593
Glad we agree it was substance. Good thing they expand on his distorted perception of the world in the next 20 or so pages or it could have felt a little forced though, right?

>>94675565
I'm saying that DC is currently open to progressing characters currently while Marvel is doing the opposite. As I said in my first post regarding the subject, it always will be retconned in some way because editors are faggots.

>>94675628
And you're just a suicidefag.

>>94675642
You're making two different arguments, one that it was his backstory that drove him to it, and the second right there that his distorted view drove him to it.

>>94675692
Nice one.

>>94675642
I know it was a super natural progression. By the sixth Darkseid is panel I really felt like King had justified his decision to show his superhero bleeding out in the shower from his wrists.

>>94675714
It's ambiguous. It's either his own issues causing him to see the world like that and leading him to suicide, or Darkseid fucking with him with the anti life equation. We just don't know yet

>>94675727
Yeah his obsession with the guy who tortured him and his attempt to end his life due to those memories or the same guy's influence are not connected. Your ironic shitposing truly has made me see the light, critics and readers were wrong and you were right, writers should never talk about suicide

>>94675813
>writers should never talk about suicide
They shouldn't if they don't know how to fucking handle it properly. You'd think someone like King wouldn't reduce it to a shitty hook.

>>94675813
I can't wait to see how much more suicidal he gets! Or why he was committing suicide! It's everything the fans and critics were clamoring for from a superhero comic! We did it with Batman! We did it with Mister Miracle! Tune in next month to see what hero will be found hanging from a tree in his backyard! Or will it be the classic exhaust pipe in the car bit? Pre-order Legion of Superheroes #1 today, and be one of the first to tweet about how amazingly deep it is!

>>94675956
>It's everything the fans and critics were clamoring for from a superhero comic!
Considering Mr Miracle is a z-lister and it's currently a top seller digitally and probably in floppies too, I'd say you're right. I haven't read the rest of your post because you seem triggered and it was making me cringe a little. I'm sorry you feel that way about adult themes in comics

>>94676012
Think comics are too childish? Afraid you'll be labeled a "nerd" or "dweeb" for reading something without adult themes? Pick up DC Universe Presents: Depression and Suicide #1 next month! Because you demanded it! Now the next time someone laughs at you for reading comics you can show them the splash page of Stargirl passed out on the floor after downing a bottle of sleeping pills!

>>94676087
Yeah we get it, you don't like suicide in your comics for some reason. Mr Miracle still was great first issue and outsold Secret Empire, so go be triggered somewhere else

>>94676176
I don't mind suicide. I do mind hack writing. Nice company wars though, you seem like the type of person who enjoys adult themes.