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Star and Marco's Guide to Mastering Every Dimension storytime

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Extracted from this PDF:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzzFOX3Y5IdKc2NxX0ZUMmhBRWs/view?usp=sharing
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>>94660444
Thanks Misha
Nice trips.
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>>94660444
I'm not a extreme fan like you tripfag
But the artline and storyline simply beats the original one.
Nothing more to say.
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>>94660509

>But the artline and storyline simply beats the original one.

What are you talking about?
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>>94660551
This is a good piece of fanart, and you don't know wanna i say?
Fuck you
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>>94660605

This book is almost 200 pages long, and the image limit is 250, so try to go easy on the reaction images please.
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>>94660857
Ya know, I don't think they'd be able to get away with bloody swords on the actual show.
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Alex Hirsch said he had a difficult time convincing the Disney censors to let him show Dipper with a nosebleed in the first season finale.
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>>94660877
They've shown blood a few times, both on its own and on characters (ex. unicorn blood at the BMB, Toffee losing an arm).

But I don't think ever actually flowing from a character's wound.
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>>94661090
Please do not post images during a storytime.
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>>94661131
I don't think we're going to hit 250, man. I was just helping my case
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>>94661131
It's so long girl, don't waste your time posting every page.
Better comment about the book.
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Fucking dead up in here. I guess OP is a worthless shitter
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>>94661159
You're new to storytime threads aren't you?
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>Tableaucontenta
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>>94661194

The Madwoman does it again
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>>94661186
Some... but, why creating storylines... here's a limit to post images or something.
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>>94661221
Have you ever been to an /a/ storytime thread? Anons shit out an entire volume in just one thread over there
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>>94661386
Glad you got the PDF turned into png's Misha, I tried to myself after you posted that but the online tools suck, what program did you use?
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Total PDF Converter
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>>94660760
Dj jump-jump?
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>>94661467

Jump-Jump is a man of many talents.
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>>94661165
>When Ludo's castle was there, I used to put pig-goat droppings on his doorstep, knock the door, and run.
Sounds gross and hilarious, i want a flashback ep about how did they meet for the first time
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>>94660876
Who do they mean by "Big Guy"
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>Hurr hurr respect my culture I'm a horse
>Ponyhead stop being such a faggot
Lotta red pills for a kid's book...
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>Cinnamon
Heh.
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>Francis: "What time does Marco get home?"
what
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>>94660551
You mean when I had the book like three weeks before anybody else? I made it clear that the scanner would be shit.
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>>94661805
>not a grandma yet.;)
what did she mean by this?
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>>94661564
Is that Toffee goo? And those silhouettes of his hand?
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>>94661125
Guys, guys, guys... we were so fucking preoccupied with Toffee and Eclipsa and Moon and the corruption and the magic and everything!
What the FUCK was in that sandwich Toffee gave Marco??
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>>94661572
>another thing that Pony Head "found" in the bathroom of the Bounce Lounge
I guess this cube is actual torture instrument that was used as a funny toy in "Sleepover"
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What's with Toffee's hand being here?
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Best Queen.
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A Goddamn FLIP!!!
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>Marco would rather date Ponyhead than Janna

Mannafags are suicide watch!
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*on
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lewd
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Huh, so Star nearly killed him
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>>94663122
I TOLD YOU ME POSTING A SINGLE IMAGE WOULDN'T KILL THE IMAGE LIMIT

I TOLD YOU

(no but seriously thx 4 posting)
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>>94662359
Not every of them has neck markings. Interesting.
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>>94663122
Thanks, man.

>>94663165
Is that Ludo as Rasputin?
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>>94663193
it is
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>>94663260
Cool
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>>94662667
>little bromance dudes
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>>94661914
This sounds like a really big deal but Star has no problem on spying Marco, maybe Marco will not be happy about it.
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>>94663178
>Not every of them
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>>94660641
>think she's insinuating they're more than best friends
>>94660694
realize she actually means less
pony head you crazy
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>>94661863
>Neutralizing entire planets
Wait what?
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>>94663092
thats really sweet of them to write snail mail to each other
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>>94660444
Sincerely, and as a fan who watches the episodes on the web. This isn't fair, I mean. Although it's piracy (and watching the eps on the web is the same) it's by this that Deep Trouble was in risk of being cancelled.

I know you extracted it from last SVTFOE thread. And well, the book doesn't cost that much. Seriously, if you're going to read it leaked, at least make a try and buy a physical copy. Also, no hate. I come in the most peacefull attitude.
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>>94668098

I usually buy all my books used, but here is the Amazon link if anyone reading this wants a fresh copy.

https://www.amazon.com/Forces-Marcos-Guide-Mastering-Dimension/dp/1484774191

I think most people will want to wait for the Stump Day edition though, since it'll have extra pages of info or whatever.
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>>94661860
that's mexican tradition! also a little chile in it. though they didnt put sugar in it, so
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>>94661649
UUUU
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https://www.amazon.com.mx/Marcos-Guide-Mastering-Every-Dimension/dp/1484774191/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502808871&sr=8-1&keywords=star+vs+the+forces+of+evil

For Mexico.
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>>94662130
whatever is in that sandwich is the same thing that was in the sandwich from the sandwich dimension, and marco got monster arm flashbacks when he got near it, I suspect toffee knew about marco's monster arm and wanted to revive it or something
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>>94661752
what secrets?
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>>94662471
Hah. Star cucked herself again.
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>>94660857
Is that.. actually her name?
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>>94660903
Jesus christ. Do they think kids freak out when they get nosebleeds?
I wonder if any of them are concious of the fact that that kind of coddling actually hurts people by making normal things more damaging. Imagine how this generation will feel if and when they ever get their periods
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>>94668809
No, Ordonia is her name
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>>94660973
oh that makes sense. it's higher than senpai.
wait, if sensei doesn't literally mean teacher, then why does it also mean doctor?
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>>94660981
This looks more disturbing than it ought to
>>94660988
I think a bunch of dumb disney kids just freaked out that their jello has horse in it. it's COW! and it's not hooves for food-grade, it's sinews and shit. the hooves go into glue
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>>94660694

>honeydew boba tea
>also my favorite drink/boba tea flavor

I really don't know how to feel about this.
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>>94661086
but.. the nod is how he got jackie to like him. it just doesnt seal the deal. i .. i use the nod all the time. but i believe in ladies doing the dealsealing
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>child stealing
>cannibalism
>bathroom filth
This page came off to me as, uh, a bit more arousing than they probably intended it to be.
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>>94668483
wHY?!
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>>94661099
One thing that really bothers me about this book is that it didn't seem to get the memo about the bounce lounge shutting down, even though it keeps mentioning episodes after that.
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>>94661876
Turbo Nuclear Butterfly Blast confirmed the AK-47 of magical spells.
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>>94669957
I think that timeline of this book is somewhere between "Trickstar" and "Just Friends", so it could be written before shutting down the lounge.
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>>94661876
>you have no idea Marco
I know I'm reading way too much into that line, but to me that sounds like she's comparing life with an unrequited love to a million tiny papercuts that inflict more heartache with each one. Every time she sees Marco, that's another little paper cut.
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>>94660444
didnt this already come out a while ago
why are we having another storytime
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>>94670127
The book has a picture of Oskar with his haircut and mentions Moon going to get the book back from Ludo.
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>>94662551
Fuck marry kill made it into a star vs book cool
>>94660739
Marco's favourite drink is hot chocolate with cinnamon
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>>94670226
>Oscar with his haircut
Scrolled all the book, haven't found.
>mentions Moon going to get the book back from Ludo
Well, she said she's going to do that in "Raid the Cave", guidebook was written after that.
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>...let's just say she's intense
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>>94662077
>At some point it was clear that Mewmans would need a way to traverse the different dimensions of the multiverse
>Mewni is a dark age shithole
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>>94660444
this is hard to read, did they taked turns when they where writing this ?

couldn't they just talk before write this?
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>>94661335
>the pillows absorb tears
why do we never escape the suffering
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>>94661780
terrible ruler, can you imaginate your ruler dancing while you home it's being destroyed and your family getting eated by horrible monsters ?

this is the kind of people i most hate.
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>>94662667
>bromance
they said ittttt
aaaaahhhh tomco moments in s3 confirmed
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How long until the suffering starts again
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>>94663165
Can someone draw star ast a t-34
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>>94672401
Then have Toffee as a Tiger I tank
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>>94662829
sleeveless slut
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>>94672830
slutty armpits
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>>94661456
there's a free and open source CLI tool for extracting images from pdfs called pdfimages
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>>94661935
somehow i had forgotten about his quadmoobs
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>>94672810
Tankstar and tankfee when
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>>94668098
It's always cool to buy a book you liked reading for free. put it on your shelf or coffee table, says some shit about you
but in general, the cost of books is ludicrous compared to their entertainment value compared to the cost of tv shows or games or movies. They need to stop printing them on chewed up wood. It's fuckin ridiculous. Just let us give you money online and have a digital copy.
In any case, books have been free at libraries forever, so
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so I started skimming at some point, was there anything on starfan? she wasn't in the characters section near the beginning
and was there anything about the crazy star's-legs under the rug?
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>>94671572
For Jackiefags or Starfags?
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>>94660739
>Star's favorite drink is Marco's VA's favorite drink
>Marco's favorite drink is hot chocolate with cinnamon
What did they mean by this
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>>94675948
chocolatl. the drink of his ancestors. very appropriate for a slightly neurotic guy. the spaniards wrote of the aztecs that a single cup of it lets a man work all day
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for anyone who are fans of this book reminder they are making another book based off of star book of spells

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXwZTKpliT9/
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If you want to buy the book to support the show (please do), keep in mind that a Special Edition with (apparently) 16 pages of new content will be coming out on September 15th
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>>94676335
So basically no reason to buy this one, buy the good one
why do companies do this
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>>94677091
It's easier to make a 200 page book to sell twice than it is to make two 200 page books to sell once.

If people didn't fall for it, companies would probably stop doing it. But sometimes they make it pretty hard, I have two copies of the Gravity Falls journal, and I'm not going to be surprised if I wind up with two copies of the Star's book of spells that they're making now.
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>>94677091
Because we'll buy it
Do you see that hoodie Star's wearing?
Is that not the cutest thing you've ever seen in your life?
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>>94675778
Legit question, do you (or anyone) honestly think Jackie will be dropped before midpoint season 3, or that starco will happen this season?
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>>94677416
>Jackie will be dropped before midpoint season 3
Might be shown or mentioned every once in a while, but since they might be on Mewni for a while, it might not be that much.

>starco will happen this season
Subtle hints, and a tease during the finale, but nothing more.
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NEEED THISS!
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>>94677571
>since they might be on Mewni for a while
I'm curious why do people think this? We saw Marco showing up via the dimension portal just to drop off a box of cereal. Why wouldn't he drop back home as soon as everyone's safe and he's not chained up to check up with Earth?
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>>94677416
>Jackie will be dropped before midpoint season 3
Eclipsa will show up sooner than later, and I expect Marco choosing to leave Earth again to help Star deal with that to be Jackie's breaking point. Still, even after they break up I'm sure she's not going anywhere.
>or that starco will happen this season?
More likely than not by the end.
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>>94677667
The song needs someone else "from another dimension," the outro has her standing on the castle, and since Star's room is gone, it can be assumed she's staying on Mewni
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>>94677754
Star's staying on Mewni, sure, that's a given.
But why do people assume Marco will stay on Mewni, instead of staying on Earth and popping by via portal to hang out every now and then? He's got his pair of scissors, it's just like walking to the next room. Why would he only stay on Mewni all the time and not at home, with his parents and gf? after all it took him several days to decide to visit

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People talk about "leaving Earth" like it's going to some other country or something, but again, with the scissors, moving between Mewni and Earth is about as difficult as walking into the next room. The only reason he stayed on Mewni so long in the Battle for Mewni thing was that things were fucking dire and he didn't wanna just leave. But once everything's somewhat peaceful, I think he'll be hopping between dimensions, and will also spend a lot of time on Mewni.

Plus honestly it's gonna be a long while before Eclipsa becomes a real problem, last 2 eps of season 3 or season 4 is my guess
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>But why do people assume Marco will stay on Mewni
Because Eclipsa is a major threat that would require his full attention if he wants to actually help Star deal with her.
And while it's true that Marco can go back and forth pretty much anytime, is that situation fair to Jackie? If she confronts him about how neglectful he's been, how little work he's put into their relationship, and he once again ditches her in another dimension to spend time with Star, she would certainly be right to take issue with that.

On the meta level, we've actually seen that his room is part of Butterfly Castle in the new intro, so it's not an assumption of "if" but "how."

>Plus honestly it's gonna be a long while before Eclipsa becomes a real problem, last 2 eps of season 3 or season 4 is my guess
dude what
What the fuck are they going to be doing for all of Season 3 then? Toffee's dead, Glossaryck's MIA, Ludo is gone and doesn't even seem to care about the wand anymore, Heinous is fucking homeless. What real conflict would there be to drive the other 18 episodes of this season?

The Battle for Mewni ended on a very obvious cliffhanger that Eclipsa was breaking out sooner than later. The first teaser we've gotten for the rest of the season is entirely about Eclipsa. It's Moon and Star arguing about her, and then we hear her mocking Moon, which means she's free again. Eclipsa is going to be established as a problem very soon, if not right from the start of the rest of the season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9avS6Lb9zTk
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>>94678193
>Because Eclipsa is a major threat
Is she?

Because nothing she's done indicates that she bares a grudge against the Butterfly Kingdom in anyway.
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>>94660444
All of this is just like jokes and bits from the show. Is it really even worth pirating aside from looking at the pictures?
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>>94670195

The last scan was a low quality scan. This PDF is a digital download, so it wasn't scanned with a potato like the last version.

>>94670501

At least they have air conditioning and electric wristwatches. But not toilets, for some reason.

>>94670891

She kept morale up. Even during the Depression and the World Wars, people still went to the movies and watched cartoons.

>>94674893

Starfan13 and various other students show up here: >>94661456
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>>94678193
Maybe the show doesn't need a conflict? We were supposed to be going on magical adventures, not trying to slay fucking Morgan le Fey.
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>>94681843
There's always been SOME type of larger conflict since mid-season 1 and it's unlikely that they're just going to return to episodic adventures, and Eclipsa's literally the only character right now to be an immediate threat. We don't know why/how exactly, but that's the point of leaving us on a cliffhanger.

Even less likely there wouldn't be a conflict now that we have a Season 4: if Star and Marco did nothing the entire rest of the season, they wouldn't have renewed it again because they could just rerun the episodic stuff indefinitely.
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>>94682658
Season 3 might be a big season. Can you blame me for wanting to just chill and look at weird fantasies for the first half? At least it's not just a talking dog.
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>>94679240
Must you?
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>>94662108
>>Moon
>> poledancing
>> why isn't there more pics of this?
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I think we all already bought the book irl.
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>>94682727
I mean, I'm not saying it's wrong or anything to not want plot immediately. Was just saying some of the "yeah, like Eclipsa's a villain" comments lately seem kind of weird just based on what we know.
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>>94672401
How would it feel to get succed by a tank
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>>94661535
Is he /ourguy/ /co/?
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>>94662108
Canon poledancing
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>>94679162
I feel like there's a story behind this image.
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>>94682893
Not if you live outside America / Canada.
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>>94679824
Yes.
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>>94684547
There's a story behind every image.
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>>94682893
>paying money for a disney product
It's already got another season confirmed. Fuck giving those jews any shekels.
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>>94682658
>>94682727

They could introduce some new threats, especially if the early episodes could just be about fleshing out Mewni, since Marco will have Star's role of being the foreigner in an unfamiliar land and exploring it with the help of his bestie.
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I hope Star starts gradually wearing skimpier clothes when around Marco to try and grab his attention.
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>>94681714
>At least they have air conditioning and electric wristwatches. But not toilets, for some reason.
Maybe, but the average Mewman is a corn-fiddling peasant. The idea that "they need to traverse the different dimensions of the multiverse" is ridiciolus.
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>>94681843
>We were supposed to be going on magical adventures
Have you not been watching the show? That was maybe the premise it was pitched with, and the setting during the first half of season 1, but it's been clear for a long time now that this show has continuity and some serious deep shit going on. Sure there'll be some magical adventures too but Eclipsa will def become the next big bad
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>>94688248
>some serious deep shit going on
Other guy, but I think this notion has ruined Gravity Falls as well. If the S3 premiere shown us anything it's that at the end of the day, this is still a childrens cartoon.
Sure, there are some more serious tones, or plot that's been going on and won't be revealed to make a better story. But expecting some serious deep shit from it will only end in disappointment.
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>>94688366
>If the S3 premiere shown us anything it's that at the end of the day, this is still a childrens cartoon.

not them but t b h I think there wouldn't be as much negative reaction to the S3 premiere if those episodes had been the S2 finale as intended. pretty much everything had been already set up in the previous season and i'm not sure what people were expecting

that's not to say the episodes were executed perfectly (can be said for the majority of episodes of this show though) but the actual plot progression was in line with the entire previous season
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>>94688418
also I guess to add on to that: what I was saying is that the show HAS done deeper shit and more serious stuff than the first few episodes promised and I don't think that's gonna change

I think if anything the reaction some have to the most recent episodes isn't because they realized it's "a children's cartoon" but because it turned out differently than the fan fiction version they'd had almost 6 months of hype to expect (not saying everyone feels that way, just some expected the whole ADVENTURE SQUAD in the theme song to form in the first few episodes or some shit). technically we still haven't even SEEN what the main S3 plot will be so it's too early to judge it one way or the other when it hasn't happened yet
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>>94678193
>Eclipsa is a major threat that would require his full attention if he wants to actually help Star deal with her.
Not yet, though. I do agree that she'll be a main antagonist at some point, but it won't be so immediate it'd require Marco to just remain in Mewni - hell, the big showdown will probably happen sometime in season 4. So Marco will most likely return to Earth in the meanwhile and will just pop between Earth and Mewni.
And why wouldn't it be fair to Jackie? Marco's been spending a lot of time with Star - hell, she was living at his house - already when they were just starting to get together. Why would she now be super angry that Marco wants to continue hanging with Star, his best friend?
>If she confronts him about how neglectful he's been
How neglectful has he been, exactly? She seemed quite happy about their friendship all the way until Star's confession (which they probably do need to talk about), then Marco was really down for x time, maybe some days, before going for a quick visit to see Star - and had to stay for some days because it was a literal life and death situation. At the most, he's been neglectful because he didn't know what was going on with his best friend and then it turned out that bestie's life, her family's life and her entire country was in terrible danger. Of course he had to help out. Jackie will most likely understand that, and possibly admire Marco for being a stand up guy, brave, reliable, persistent and kinda heroic.

People seem to want to imagine that Jackie would, for whatever reason, be super upset and throw a tantrum and either break up in a rage or wistfully tell Marco to go to Star. But I don't think that'll happen - Marco's spent so long pining after Jackie that if there's any issues, most likely he'd just try to spend more time with her and be a better bf, instead of going lol whatever bish I'm dropping this relationship
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>>94688418
>>94688610
Even as a finale it's not much better.
Personally I would have respected and liked it better if Toffee's defeat haven't been a last minute Deus Ex Machina.

Based on all the careful movement of the plot, and how in the end, his plan succeeded before and in the finale, I was hoping for some heroics, some fighting, or the heroes outsmarting or overstepping Toffees expectations, bringing his downfall. But I guess I have been expecting too much. Just having a super-princess transformation, and tabula rasa is enough for the main target audience, so that's what they went with. Which is fine, I just think it's a sign to not expect an overly deep and complex plot in the future.
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>>94678193
>What the fuck are they going to be doing for all of Season 3 then?
>What real conflict would there be to drive the other 18 episodes of this season?

Dude do you really not understand how narrative works? It took 2 seasons with Toffee as the hidden big bad to get to the Battle of Mewni, do you legit imagine now that it'll just be non-stop apocalyptic HIGH STAKES HIGH-OCTANE action from now on?

This sort of intense shit is reserved for season ends. In the meanwhile, we'll return to the core heart of the show, and have funny, weird, slightly dangerous adventures with Star and Marco. Probably because of the continuity, the big plot and character developments will run in the background, but we'll have some funny shenanigans, maybe explore Mewni and the other kingdoms and lore more, Marco's relationship with Jackie (and his bromance with Tom) will progress, Star's relationship with her parents is now very different, and so on. Possibly Heinous's situation will get some slow progress too.

Eclipsa may be in the process of breaking out, but most likely she'll appear to be a false villain at first, and she'll slowly start to influence Star, everyone will think that ooh it's just yet another example of monster oppression and prejudice she was just labeled bad because she fell in love with one, and it'll take the whole season for her to reveal her cards.
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>>94688774
I do think there's a difference between viewing it as the end of one plot arc and expecting it to be the beginning of another, which is typical for a premiere.

but then I disagree about it being a deus ex machine-- dipping down being built up across the second season, which would've been clearer if it had been the S2 finale and aired sooner after the other episodes. I'm not gonna argue the problem was solved by "magic"-- but then that's literally a central element of the show, and what the main conflict of this plot was about

>I was hoping for some heroics, some fighting, or the heroes outsmarting or overstepping Toffees expectations, bringing his downfall

personally I think that was the point though-- Toffee would be able to outsmart or physically defeat all the characters, and in fact had beforehand as well. magic was the only thing that would beat him and that his plans centered around removing, and thus that was the solution to finishing him off.

>Just having a super-princess transformation, and tabula rasa is enough for the main target audience, so that's what they went with.

I think this was totally in line with the entire plotline of the second season though. likely whatever happens re: Eclipsa or whatever final villain they'll have will be totally different, mainly because Eclipsa is a magic user herself and her plan won't be "kill all magic"

>to not expect an overly deep and complex plot in the future
I think the plot is frequently more complex than it gets credit for, except when it does when the audience is pleased with the most recent episode. but then as soon as the audience is displeased with the most recent episode it gets "what do you expect, it's just a kids' show" reactions

it just feels like whenever anyone's dissatisfied with a recent episode they act as though the entire show is like early season 1 and always has been and you're crazy to think otherwise.
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>>94688366
Yeah but considering everything that went down in s01, s02, has already gone down in s03 and based on the trailers will keep going down, it's retarded to go "hurr maybe the show doesn't need a conflict maybe let's just return to the wacky episodic magical adventures it was in the beginning"

I mean, I do agree that we'll have some lighthearted fun adventures here and there, but obviously it's not that kinda show any more and there will always be this greater story arc progressing in the background
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>>94688862
>dipping down being built up across the second season
I wouldn't really call it a build up as I didn't see much building aside from repeating it. But yes, it wasn't pulled out of the blue. However it makes the contribution off all the others entirely pointless. Things would have turned out the same without them as well. It is still a deus ex machina.

>Toffee would be able to outsmart or physically defeat all the characters
>magic was the only thing that would beat him
Makes perfect sense. But I still couldn't feel it to be a bit anticlimactic. I mean he made no mistakes, his plan came to a completion. It would have been a lot better if his defeat would have been more than just Star being a prodigy at magic. Like an unexpected hero rising to an occasion. Perhaps Ludo or Buffrog again. Maybe Moon showing she is not as incompetent as the three episodes before it have shown.

>I think the plot is frequently more complex than it gets credit for
That is true. I came with low expectations the first time, and started to enjoy it. When things started to get more serious, I started to enjoy it more. Somewhere my expectations however must have jumped way too high, and that's why the premiere/finale have been a bit of a disappointment for me.

This whole post is just a lenghty and social way of reminding myself how not to expect too deep stuff, and just enjoy the show.


>>94688879
Sure, I am pretty certain there will be a main plotline with continuty, there are way too many unattended plothooks left for 100% silly shanengans. It's just the main plotline might not be so complex, turbulent, and dramatic if we hype it up.
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Can one of all y'all post the Deis Irae image, or whatever it's called? I need a refresher.
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>>94689231
Here's the original one from last year, of course there's a lot more at this point.
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>>94689336
Thanks bruh.
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>>94689131
>I wouldn't really call it a build up as I didn't see much building aside from repeating it
I saw the repetition as the buildup. Star does it in the first season unaware of what she's doing when the circumstances force her into it, the next two times in the second she has to be manipulated into it by Glossaryck, the final time at the end of this arc she pulls it off herself without being forced into it due to the practice she's had beforehand.

> However it makes the contribution off all the others entirely pointless
not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if you mean the other characters I'd say their involvement provides characterization/a greater scope to the story that we wouldn't have had otherwise

>It is still a deus ex machine
I disagree with this when everything about it had been set up beforehand. though Star did use magic to solve her problem, that's an inevitability when the issue is restoring magic and the effort she put in without magic to get to that point was part of the solution as well. though I think part of what complicates the deus ex machina issue here is the use of "magic"-- a major part of the show is magic bending reality to do things that are otherwise impossible, but the way the plot worked up to Star getting to the point where she could restore the magic was totally established beforehand.

> a bit anticlimactic
that's fine; not really trying to counter individual opinions here so much as arguing for the progression of the plot itself. but
>Like an unexpected hero rising to an occasion
I'd say part of his defeat was also severely underestimating Glossaryck by believing he could kill him with the book

>not to expect too deep stuff
I guess mainly I'm arguing that I think the plot has gotten deeper, and that some "high expectations" may be the result of expecting a different plot. like some audience dissatisfaction with these episodes doesn't necessarily mean the writers themselves are trying to not get too deep
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>>94689420
>Build up
We probably precieve it differently, which is fine.

>not sure exactly what you're referring to
I'm just referring that everyone aside from Star herself were entirely inconsequential at the end resoult. Star went in, Star dipped in, Star destroyed. Well maybe if you count Moon trying to use the spell again, and weakening Eclipsa's prison I guess.

>part of what complicates the deus ex machina
Not sure if I get it right, but if you are saying it's a deus ex machina because it was magic, then no, that's not why I think so. You are right, magic is very important core of the entire show, and it's use is more than accepted, it is expected.
I think it was a deus ex because Toffe already outsmarted raw and tactless use of magic once, and him being just bitchslapped by it the second time, felt like a lame end to an otherwise interesting character. Let's not forget that he was the one who deepened the plot first.
Which reminds me, where the fuck he got a magic-resistant, self-repairing, glasscube in the first place?
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>>94689420
>>94689784

>part of his defeat was also severely underestimating Glossaryck
I don't think Glossaryck had anything to do with it. He seemed to have no idea that it will end up the way it did, and I beileve he said the truth when he declared "He has no side".
Althought I guess it is hard to tell, since he's been manipulating Star towards progression in the past already, and we don't even know if he was more than a feverdream in that episode. So I guess it really just comes down to speculation.

>I guess mainly I'm arguing that I think the plot has gotten deeper, and that some "high expectations" may be the result of expecting a different plot.
I think in the end that's what both of us are going for. Like there will be surprises along the line, but expecting an epic would bring only disappointment.
For example, predictions like >>94689336
Sure, there might be some truth, and taken inspiration to it, but if you really expect it to go along those lines... well don't say you haven't been warned.
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>>94689784
>everyone aside from Star herself were entirely inconsequential
okay, that's what I thought you were getting at. I still see it as their role adding characterization + story stuff then, even if they didn't actually have a hand in defeating Toffee. like their involvement still led up to the scenario in which Star faced him. and actually I think that's fine, in this case: Star's the main character, victory feels more "earned" than if Moon, Ludo, etc. had had a larger role in it.

>if you are saying it's a deus ex machina because it was magic
not saying that or that you're arguing that either. more just trying to get across that of course to some extent the show will always have some things happening out of nowhere as long as magic is an active factor (which it won't always be, ex. character development/Earth stuff), and that in that sense the prior buildup to that is what determines whether it's deus ex machina

>Toffe already outsmarted raw and tactless use of magic
Storm the Castle, I guess? in this scenario it seemed different in that Star had no idea of his existence then, and so she was able to be more or less trapped into following his wishes, while in the most recent episodes she was able to apply her knowledge from this previous encounter and actually attempt a plan herself. to some extent it also seemed like they were going for irony almost-- destroying all magic would only leave himself more vulnerable to magic than he ever was before, due to his body apparently being partially made of the corrupted magic. Toffee in Storm the Castle or even Starcrushed wouldn't have had the same problem, so to some extent the plan itself was his undoing

>felt like a lame end to an otherwise interesting character
but this is fair, not trying to argue that. more just saying I feel the setup was "fair" going by what the show had provided before

>where the fuck he got a magic-resistant, self-repairing, glasscube in the first place
Pixtopia shard mines?
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>>94689816
about Glossaryck, yeah, it's up to interpretation to some extent. my view is that he's manipulated everyone he's interacted with in some form, but does in fact have loyalty to the Butterflys. or equally likely, wants to free Eclipsa: everything he's done has led to that end result, and he's spoken favorably of her in the past.

>expecting an epic would bring only disappointment.
I actually meant more like it seems some dissatisfaction is just the result of expecting a different plot, rather than a deeper plot, if that makes sense. like just because the plot didn't go as expected or the execution could have been off, doesn't mean the show is incapable of deeper/good stuff (ex. I think the plotline's resolution made sense, so I don't see it as the writers just not caring because it's a children's show).

but I mean I agree with not believing in Dies Irae, that'd be ridiculous for almost any show that didn't have heavy biblical themes on the surface level. it's just I think the kind of predictions people have for the Eclipsa plotline/dark magic stuff aren't at Dies Irae level of bizarre, so expecting the show to get deeper re: that plot, as most people probably are, doesn't seem too unreasonable.
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>>94690144
From other thread on more theories>>94690182
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>>94690144
I guess in the end we'll really see how deep the plot goes.
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>>94690030
>>94689784

>where the fuck he got a magic-resistant, self-repairing, glasscube in the first place
>Pixtopia shard mines?

I think if the show explores his clan, it might show they're good with tech, or at least know where to get it. Besides the glasscube, Toffee also had a dragonball style "wand locator," a floating spy camera, and an odd little portal device that Buff Frog was supposed to use to teleport the wand to Ludo (it was never explained just how that thing was sabotaged.)

Besides Toffee, we also see that Rasticore has a rather advanced mechanical arm.

Two examples isn't much of a trend, but it could be possible.
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>>94690316
That seems likely due to how Rasticore's device used to locate Star and Marco was similar to the one Toffee used for the wand. It at least looks they were trying for a parallel between them to make fans speculate, before it was confirmed they were connected.
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>>94690030
>had had a larger role in it.
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>>94691525
pretty sure that's actually correct, man
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>>94689784
>precieve
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>>94689131
>continuty
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So many Stars, so many options.
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>>94690528
I really wish we'll see more of Septarsis.
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>>94700967
What is the fucking point?
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>>94660456
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never forget
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>>94704261
Ow, the edge.
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>>94699406
Regular Star is still the best.

Except for Mewberty Star
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>>94705330
>spoiler
Patrician taste, my good lad.
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>>94690316
amazing fucking thread Misha

full of shitheads, cancer and degenerates

you deserve this
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>>94705555
Did Being Friends finish?
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>>94706838
>Area's golden goose ending
Nope
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Would you accept them?
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>>94707924
they deserve happiness and aren't hurting anybody anon, of course i would
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>>94707924
I'd watch the porn.
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>>94708054
>mfw that pic
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post liggers
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>>94708495
No
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>>94710398
Great, now this has to be the new thread for the morning because you bumped it seconds away from death even though it wasn't intended to be the not-general. Thanks anon
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>>94710416
I thought there would've been at least one other thread up. Well don't I feel stupid.
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>>94707924
Nope
Separate peoples exist for a reason
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>>94710478
I'm gonna make another one shortly so this one can be left alone.
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