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What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic? Your fears?
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>>94652010
Forgot to add in the OP
Do you think they’ll reprint and/or finish Mega Drive?
Do you think they’ll bring Ian and Tyson back?
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>>94652033
>Do you think they’ll bring Ian and Tyson back?

>Time for a fresh new start with a new publisher!
>Better bring back the exact same creative team from the old publisher! That'll freshen things up!

You suck at this, anon.
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No Freedom Fighters.
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That it's successful enough for IDW to start making comics based on other Sega IPs.
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?

That they include only game characters and original characters.

>Your fears?

That they acknowledge any of the shitty DiC/Archie characters.
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>>94652073
I don’t think they’ll bring them back, but it’s within the realm of possibility. Hopefully they release Overdrive though.

>>94652147
You do you, man.

>>94652174
What other of their IPs are recognizable enough to warrant making a series? NiGHTS, Ecco, GOlden Axe, Jet Set Radio, and Panzer Dragoon could be cool, but how much of an audience is there?
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?
No Freedom Fighters.
>Your fears?
The Freedom Fighters.
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>>94652411

Sadly, not an audience that's probably big enough.

But that's cuz Sega is letting them rot.
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Knuckles not being an idiot would be nice. Damn Boom.
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>>94652688
>Knuckles not being an idiot would be nice. Damn Boom.

Knuckles has been an idiot since his very conception, getting tricked by Robotnik over and over again in rapid succession.

The only reason you think he's deep and complex is because of Penders shit.
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>>94652728

Whoa, hey, I admit he'll never be deep, but he's not a functional retard like in Boom, either.

He's a skilled treasure hunter, fighter, and has a lot of knowledge about ancient histories. He's just a little gullible sometimes.
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>>94652073
Dude, they've said they were looking at old and new faces. Besides, no reason not to bring in some of the old guard since they're familiar with the franchise. Might be hired in a smaller role, but I could definitely see them bringing in an artist or two at least
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>>94652033
>>94652073
>>94652808

I'm A-OK with IDW bringing back some of the better Archie artists, for sure. But leave Ian behind. I know everyone likes to jerk him off but he had really run out of steam in the past couple years and his run was getting boring and decompressed to hell. The guy had been writing the book for like 10 fucking years. He needs to be given a rest and let someone else have a chance to steer the ship.

Ian shouldn't have a multi-decade monopoly on Sonic comics.
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>>94652808
Watch them take Spaz and no one else.
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>>94653431
>Watch them take Spaz and no one else.

How many actual Sonic comics, not covers, has Spaz actually drawn in his entire 20+ year career? Like, 4?
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>>94653464
He can go back to drawing covers and IDW will have made good on their old faces claim.
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>>94653431
>Watch them take Spaz and no one else.

Too expensive. Also already said he's too busy to draw anything other than covers.
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>>94653802
What else is he working on anyway?
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No more Sega mandates.
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>>94652865

Any fault with Ian was due to having to clean up after multiple reboots and the pendering
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>>94652010
My hope is that they stop using SatAM as the basis for the comic's plot and main characters. That cartoon is over 20 years old and the countless people who have gotten into Sonic in that timeframe are mainly fans of the games.

I'm not saying they should scrub the Freedom Fighters from the comic entirely (Sega owns them) but they shouldn't main characters anymore. Sonic and his other game-character friends can help them out once in a while but Sonic isn't the kind of guy to commit himself to a team all the time.
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>>94654432
>No more Sega mandates.
That's some wishful thinking right there
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>>94652514
This desu

They have literally no purpose now. I dunno why exactly anybody would want them back besides nostalgia.
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>>94652728
Being Gullible isn't synonymous with being stupid.

Knuckles was fairly intelligent in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 yet was still pretty gullible
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?

TMNT SONIC AND BATMAN CROSS OVER!
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>>94654432
The Sega mandates were for the greater good
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>>94654668
This guy knows whats up.
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I wonder if they'll start with modern Sonic or if they'll start with the early Sega Genesis stories.
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>>94652514
>The Freedom Fighters.
aren't they considered Archie's property?
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>>94654668

How would a Batman/Sonic crossover work? I do see a TMNT/Sonic crossover working with maybe Eggman and Shredder teaming up to make their own furry Sonic clones.
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-I hope the comic starts fresh and focuses on a core set of characters (most likely Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy, but I'm open to more being added on)
-I hope they are free to bring in anything Sega and IDW have the rights to, but don't make any non-core character a major part of the series for longer then six months. Freedom Fighters coming back is fine, but we don't need to see them every issue, and they don't need to define the story.
-I hope they continue to bring back obscure characters from Sonic's past like Honey and Breezie.
-I hope that when they choose what characters to focus on that game characters and comic/cartoon characters related to game concepts are given preference over pure cartoon originals.
-I hope it doesn't come back as a light or no continuity joke/light action comic. Those can be fine, but I like Sonic going out on adventures and having small story arcs.
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>>94654915
ouch words hurt anon.
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I'm really wondering what the setup will be for it.

They can't use the idea of Mobius or Sonic taking place in the far future since the current Sega stance is that Sonic takes place on modern-day earth.

Eggman isn't a conqueror, he's a guy who invents robots to try and take over the world and is constantly thwarted. Thus there can't be any "Freedom fighters" to fight against him, because that would assume the SATAM setup where he already won.

I've no fucking idea how IDW will try to explain why there are floating islands, magic and furries running around on present-day earth. In fact I'm really curious to see it.
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>>94654736
nick TMNT was pretty good when i watched it, like 2 years ago, did it become shit?
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>>94654934
>Freedom Fighters coming back is fine, but we don't need to see them every issue, and they don't need to define the story.

Then there'd be literally no point in having them.
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>>94654915
I'M PICKLE RIIICK
*dabs*
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?
More use of the villains from the games.

>Your fears?
Really bad art.

>Do you think they’ll reprint and/or finish Mega Drive?
I wish.

>Do you think they’ll bring Ian and Tyson back?
Anything is possible.
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>>94654915
P-Please be kind, anon! I just wanted to enrich myself with Sonic The Hedgehog comics. You know, The Thinking Man's comic Sonic The Hedgehog!
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>>94655089
>>94655000

Nick TMNT is canceled now though. If anything Sanic will cross over with the new show that's coming out next year.
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>>94655000

The Usagi spinoff was good
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>>94654973
Probably a similar aesthetic to Unleashed
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>>94654741
Sega owns all of the US characters except for the one's Penders got through that shitfuck of a trial
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>>94654973
Why does there need to be an explanation for these things? They simply are. One page Sonic is in Station Square, he runs off in the last panel, then he's running around a some technicolor landscape. It's fine.
If you need an explanation you can bring back the zone concept of them being pocket dimensions or whatever, assuming Penders doesn't own the rights to pocket dimensions.
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>>94655270
We didn't really lose anybody of importance.

I doubt anybody really misses Julie-Su.
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>>94654915
I think Archie owns all the characters they created after the initial series.
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?

Original stories.

>Your fears?

Game adaptions.
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>>94654915
why your post get deleted?
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>>94655519
I'm okay with game adaptations (so long as they change things to keep them interesting), but I really don't want this series to start with ANOTHER genesis games retread. We've had so many of those by now, just move on. I'm cool with those Zones returning, just don't want it to be another run through the first five games (including CD).
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>all these people whining about how they should drop the FF entirely
>all these people saying the comic should stick to the games only
We had a comic about that, it was called Mega Man. It sold so poorly, it got cancelled. The FF-based comic on the other hand was Archie's #1 moneymaker for years on end. All you people demanding a game-only based comic talk a good talk, but you aren't the ones actually buying the comics, so who gives a shit about your opinions?
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>>94655638
Yeah, I'm really worried about getting more Genesis. Sonic Mania will still be in recent memory when the comic comes out so I think it's a very strong chance of us getting more Classic Sonic issues.
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>>94655375

I'll miss Lien Da.

....'s tits.
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>>94655705
>>94655638

Unless Sega is literally wrenching IDWs arm we won't get game adaptions. They have literally never done an ongoing series that's been dedicated to adapting source material from anything existing. All their licensed franchises have been about an original story and weaving in material from other iterations of it.

The only way this will be a regurgitated game comic is if Sega fucks it up. Which I don't put past them, but it would mean that IDW literally cannot do what they're famous for, and it would be pointless to even use them.
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>>94655716

You have bat tits for that
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>>94652010
>hopes
That it's not totally bland and that it makes use of the franchise's history, setting, lore, characters, etc. instead of just "Sonic beats Eggman in Green Hill Zone with help from Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and maybe Shadow if we get tired of his fantards begging on Twitter" every issue.
>fears
They get writers that don't care and we get another Sonic Boom-type thing that's totally up its own ass with meta-commentary on the most superficial elements of the Sonic franchise ("how does sonic hold all those rings??? have you ever noticed that sonic fans complain a lot???? sanic memes gotta go fast lol amirite????") and hamfisted social commentary.
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>>94652010
>Hopes
Freedom Fighters stick around
>Fears
Penders continues to fuck shit up for everyone.
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>>94652010
>hopes
More development for canon characters
>fears
No fucking OCs
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>>94656051
I really hope Honey the Cat eventually shows up in the new continuity.
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>>94652073
You mean like how Disney brought in popular Star Wars writers even though they wiped the old canon away?

Yeah, actually I think it makes perfect sense.
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>>94654668
>>94654814
I WANT EGGMAN TO DEFEAT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE.
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>>94655035
By that logic there'd be no point in having Knuckles, Amy, the Chaotix, Team Dark, Blaze, Silver, or pretty much any character that's not Sonic, Tails, or Eggman. Have you ever heard of something called a "recurring character"?
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Can anyone TL;DR me on why Archie doesn't have Sonic anymore? And are they starting completely fresh with a new canon?
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>>94656233
What do you think she will do?
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>>94656411
Legal battles with an old writer/artist. Archie stopped publishing Sonic in December 2016, and during SDCC Sega announced that IDW got the license. New series in 2018 is all we know.
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>>94656411
>Can anyone TL;DR me on why Archie doesn't have Sonic anymore?
SEGA upped the the license rights, and Archie either could not afford them or did not want them. Based on them shuttering so many of their own series I'm guessing it's the later.

>And are they starting completely fresh with a new canon?
No one knows.
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>>94656433
Whatever it is, she'll be cute while she does it.
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>>94656411
Archie got legally fucked by Penders sometime around 2010~ because they didn't have a proper copy of the documents that could've easily gotten the case laughed out of court. This led to a reboot which continued until early 2016, when another ex-writer (Scott Fulop) decided to take advantage of Archie's gross legal incompetence for his own gain. With Archie in the middle of producing Riverdale and SEGA already breathing down their necks over the Penders case and the godawful writing and divergent (in a bad way) worldbuilding the comic was suffering from throughout the early-to-mid-2000s, Archie decided to cut their losses and drop Sonic altogether.
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>>94656477
>SEGA upped the the license rights, and Archie either could not afford them or did not want them. Based on them shuttering so many of their own series I'm guessing it's the later.
Uh, SEGA pulled the license after the latest lawsuit from Scott F. Being Archie's largest moneymaker, and the CEO of Archie investing EVERYTHING in Riverdell, they had to wipe comics since they can't afford them anymore. If SEGA had offered them a renewal on the license, they would have taken it.
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>>94656602
See a shrink, goddamn
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>>94656602
>between the two of you, you think he's the annoying moron
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>>94656602
Boy, someone sure gets upset when a character is called cute.
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>>94656677
>is on /co/
>goes into a sonic thread
>tries to imply someone else is autistic because of their fandom
You're really nailing that superiority thing
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>>94656634
>Sonic
>has "THE AUTIST" over his head
I like it.

>>94656677
>comes to Sonic comic thread to talk about Sonic characters
>screams others are autistic
Chris-chan, is that you?
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>>94656602

Well you went from zero to bitch in no time
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Think we'll get a secondary Sonic title, like Sonic Universe? I adored having a book following what the other characters are doing.
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>>94656677
A symptom of autism is getting irrationally angry over shit that doesn't matter, like Sonic girls being cute.
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>>94656602
Autism
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>>94656757

Blaze the cat not being a sonicfied Blaze Fielding seems like a wasted opportunity
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>>94656737
I hope a book like Universe gets made under IDW. It'll only happen if the main comic sells well. I'll know I'll be doing my part and actually regularly buy issues of Sonic for the first time in my life.
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>>94656854
Sonic character designs/names get swapped around a lot before they're finalized. Rouge the Bat was at one point named Shadow, and Blaze early on looked a lot more like Shadow (but that bit of concept art was not originally for Shadow, nor was she originally meant to take his place in Adventure 2). Most likely the idea to name her Blaze came after the design was created. Also, you can only have so many characters who are based on other properties. Flickies, Bean, and Honey are pushing it.
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>>94652010
I'd like something original, not a continuation of SatAm, or the Adventure games, or Forces. Just something different. And if it's shit, I want it to be funny as fuck shit, not boring ass shit.
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>>94652010
>Hopes
The Freedom Fighters or Expies of are included
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>>94656608
>>94656572

What the fuck did Scott Fulop create that he wanted money for?
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>>94652010
Hope: Character development. SEGA doesn't have the team on a tight leash like they had Archie on post-Pender drama, and allows Sonic to flourish as a character instead of being the same generic two-dimensional caricature he'd been recently

Fear: Episodic garbage, no plot development whatsoever
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>>94654668
>not Sonic/The Flash

Chaos Emeralds + Speedforce mane
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>>94657131
http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Characters_introduced_by_Scott_Fulop
The big ones (if you can call them that) are Mammoth Mogul, the original Fearsome Foursome, and Merlin Prower.
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Hopes
>50% Comedy, 25% Comfy Adventures, 25% Action
>Focus primarily on video games
>Rework the animal friends from the games into fresh variations of the Archie and Fleetway Freedom Fighters
>Have the game-original characters be front and center
>Stop with the fucking maudlin shit

Fears
>Serious Interpretation of Sonic
>70% Action, 20% Furrybaiting 10% Comedy
>OCs that are obviously the Archie Freedom Fighters, but are "totally not"
>Zero focus on the games
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>>94657620
>>Focus primarily on video games

i will never understand why people want this
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>>94657870
>why do people want the game characters to be the focus of this game based comic

Because the Archie characters by and large just get in the way
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?
The Freedom Fighters.
> Your fears?
No Freedom Fighters.
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>>94657870
SEGA made a shitton of locations and characters but none of the fucking comics ever do much with it in favour of some jack-ass Captain Planet furries having increasingly serious storylines. It's like doing a Mario comic, but it doesn't take place in the Mushroom Kingdom, the only characters are Mario, Toad, and Bowser with the rest of the cast being from the live-action movie and everything is super serious.
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>>94657228
Sonic was a much more fleshed out character with more development after the mandates were put in place.
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>>94656051
>read the comic off an on
>The Fighters Arc was great, really wanted to see more Honey
>This issue gets announced, get excited
>Don't hear about the cancellation until later

Fuck me
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>>94654619
Wank material

That's it, that's really it
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Why does this asshole stand on the plane like this?

also I used to watch a dvd of this a ton when I was younger, rewatching it now and I'm getting that suffocating nostalgic feeling remembering what happens as it goes, I think he holds up even with the acting

also I haven't seen these comics except once in my now shut down bookstore, maybe I'll find rips
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>>94658811

Strange isn't it
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>>94658811
Because it's cool. And it was easier to put it into the game it originates from than to have him get in and out of a seat, and every time since then is a reference.
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>>94656477
>pic
God that arc was stupid
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>>94658641
I ain't wanking it to this. I just like the character. And I liked how his father was a member of Eggman's Dozen, that could have gone somewhere interesting. It's all gone now. Just dust in the wind.
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>>94658421
>how to tell someone has never read the comics: the post
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>>94652411

I want a Virtua Cop action crime book
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>>94659110
That's Capcom.
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whats the context here
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>>94659221

Sonic cucked Tails

Im not kidding that happened
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>>94659315
Best girl!
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>>94659221
Tails is jealous that Sonic was going out with the Mobian whose robot duplicate he fell in love with on an island nearly a decade of issues ago.
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>>94658873
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>>94652411
Atlus is part of Sega now, so that might potentially give them an avenue to do comics based on SMT, Persona, Etrian Odyssey, etc.
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>lore on a character that just runs around very fast.
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>>94659221
If I recall correctly, in an older issue Tails falls in love with a robot of a young Fiona Fox. The real Fiona (who is much older than Tails) shows up later and starts dating Sonic and Tails feels jealous and betrayed. Typical soap opera romance drama at the time
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>this trash
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>>94659416
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>>94659352
D-Did that actually happen?
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>>94659492

yeah. The comic had some ..rough patches
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>>94654444
Why do his fans feel the obsessive need to wash his hands of any responsibility for any dips in quality of the content he produced?

Most of the reboot was him working on a completely clean slate, and he was STILL hit and miss.
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>>94656972
Is it true Sega stole her design from a fan?
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>>94654973
>Eggman isn't a conqueror, he's a guy who invents robots to try and take over the world and is constantly thwarted. Thus there can't be any "Freedom fighters" to fight against him, because that would assume the SATAM setup where he already won.
you don't need him to have conquered the whole world, heck in the Post Pendering version of the setting, while Eggman controls a large part of the planet, he's hardly gotten close to have won
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>>94652033
Heese was being coy about it on twitter so i think it'll get its end
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>>94659551
This is the part where the french guy becomes a mass shooter?
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>>94652411
NiGHTS has an Archie comic, and Golden Ax and Ecco had a comic in Sonic the COmic
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I'd like to see the Freedom Fighters return...just as completely secondary characters we see very rarely. Bunnie and Antoine are cute characters, they shouldn't be completely abandoned just because. That's silly.
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>>94658995
>how to tell someone has never read anything before Ian took over: the post

Come on now, anon.
You and I both know that the comic's longest running lead writer fucking refused to play/acknowledge the games for ages, to the point to where they had to do a heavy retcon when it came time to adapt Sonic Adventure.
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>>94659619
Blaze or Rouge? Either way, I have never heard this put fourth before.
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>>94659688
No.
This is the part where a cartoon coyote dying is somehow a tribute to the writer's dead grandma.
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>>94654660
Adventure 1 had Knux be introduced by being tricked Eggman for the 3rd or 4th time
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>>94659704

>and Golden Ax and Ecco had a comic in Sonic the COmic

And Streets of Rage. And Decap Attack. And a bunch of others.
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>>94659729
That guy wrote off everything in the comics though, as if Ian was never there.
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>>94659730
Rouge. Allegedly she was designed by someone named Dawn Best, and Sega took the design.
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>>94652865
he doesn't have to be the ONLY writer on the book
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>>94652010
>Your fears?
None, I've seen what DA has done to Sonic, there is nothing IDW can do that would make me even flinch.

Since the last stroytime, there have already been over 30 more pages, sometimes 2 pages a day.
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?

Blaze.

>Your fears?

No Blaze.
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>>94659583
To be fair, the dip happened after he starting taking on too many extra books.
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>>94659729
>the comic's longest running lead writer
Wow, way to out yourself as someone who hasn't read the comics.

Ken had three stints as lead writer.

One for five issues with his buddy.
One for nine issues, four of which were co-scripted to reel his ass back in when he went too wacko.
And finally, one for 25 issues...all of which were stories dictated by the editor that he had to fill in the blanks for. This last one got him so frustrated he quit the company.

Ken was never a real "lead." He was the reliable grunt who shit out bad scripts to fill pages. Karl Bollers wrote more lead stories than he did. Fuck, Mike Gallagher did as well.
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>>94654581
maybe they establish the comics using game stories, and then expand the setting using SatAM and stuff
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>>94659800
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Oh hey AWD
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>>94659369
Presona is already in /a/'s corner
Etrain Odyssey is probably better left to /a/
SMT is a good candidate
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>>94659813
The problem with Blaze is you need to justify why she's around. She's a princess from another dimension, she really should have more important stuff to do then help people out in Sonic's dimension. You can come up with a reason why she's in the main dimension, but then you either have to leave that plot thread dangling for too long, or you have to come up with another reason to bring her back later. Eventually either way it starts to feel wrong or lazy.
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>>94659845
Because, I have learned to find borderline sexual pleasure in the pain, and also find equal joy in the pain of others.
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>>94655810
both Sonic the Comic and Archie did adaptions of games
Archie much more than StC but its all there. StC even ended on a SA adaption, and Archie adapted every game until SA2, and the last Archie arc was a Unleashed adaption.

huh both comics got canceled after adapting a game
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>>94659777
Ian's run doesn't really make up for the dumb shit that choked the comic starting all the way back from when the ComBots were first introduced.

>>94659823
Yet somehow, Penders alone had them literally undo nearly 250 issues of continuity. Look, you can defend your shitty "hurr so real" Freedom Fighters all you want, but nobody wanted Endgame, the Quest of Ixis Naugus, the shitty adventures of Knuckles and Knuckles with Knuckles, missing Princes, fucking anime schools, space squid gene bombs, and all that other shit. They just wanted to see the adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>>94656737
random thought, if they made a new Sonic Heroes style game, and were to add a couple new teams(alongside all the ones from the original), who would you choose to add

>>94659845
source for that Poke-Fusion sprite, only generator of those I know of is just for Gen 1
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>>94660103
>Nobody wanted things I didn't like!
Except kids bought those stories, Anon. And not only did they buy them, they would write in to the mailbag section and tell the editor how much they like them.
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>>94660103
>Yet somehow, Penders alone had them literally undo nearly 250 issues of continuity.
NIgga, you know exactly why they nuked everything
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>>94660189
Here you go famalam
http://pokefusion.japeal.com/
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>>94660189
>if they made a new Sonic Heroes style game, and were to add a couple new teams

Honey Ray and Mighty
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>>94658421
>Mushroom Kingdom, the only characters are Mario, Toad, and Bowser with the rest of the cast being from the live-action movie and everything is super serious.
id read that
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>>94660103
>Yet somehow, Penders alone had them literally undo nearly 250 issues of continuity.
Nigga are you even quoting the right person?

I said he was never the lead writer in any appreciable sense. Ever. To call him the lead is proof that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. He mostly did backups and side-stories, which is part of why his claims are so goddamn pathetic.
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>>94660103
>the Quest of Ixis Naugus...fucking anime schools, space squid gene bombs
None of these were Penders.
Actually research the facts before you throw shade.
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>>94660191
This shit was the reason why I stopped reading as a kid. And I legitimately don't know why people are so against Sonic comics being about Sonic the Hedgehog and not some contrived sci-fi soap opera.

If these people had such a powerful hard-on for these stories, you'd think that Penders would be rolling in it with the Chronicles of Lara-Su.
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>>94658995
>all the characters who were watching on screens are comic out of screens
s'clever
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>>94660227
I'd do so too, if to detract from the overly sterile nature the series has taken nowadays.
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>>94660255
So tell me why they actually DID nuke his stuff, since he had such an obvious non-case. If he only ever wrote 39 actual issues, you'd think they would have never really gone to court.
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>>94660283
None of it's Sonic the Hedgehog, either.
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>>94652411
>>94659369
>Persona
>Jet Set Radio
if we can get crossovers with ROM & jem I'd totally be on board for this
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>>94660225
thanks
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>>94659775
yeah but he didn't ask about that
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>>94659795
that sounds like Super Bullshit 64
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>>94660319
Because Archie was super incompetent and lost Penders' original contract so he was able to bullshit his way out of what should have been an open and shut case and had Sega breathing down their neck to settle things ASAP

>you'd think they would have never really gone to court.
He was claiming copyrights, you moron.
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>>94659936
the game never really explains why shes a princess.
i mean she's more analogous to Knuckles role as a guardian which always made me think it was more a title than evidence of her ruling a kingdom
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>>94660572
She has servants and theres referencing to a kingdom. Apparently guarding the Sol Emeralds (and that sceptor) is a shared family task.
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>>94660316
trufax id read a whole series based on the Movie
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>>94654444

For 10 years?
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I'd rather them not bring back the Freedom Fighters or the Archie cast. They've lasted far longer than they really should have and I want to see a proper take based off the game canon.
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>>94661007
>game canon
I want the Freedom Fighters to be demoted to occasional appearances, but the tough thing about game canon is that Sonic Team doesn't really care about continuity. The direct of the series has recently implied there are multiple worlds in his attempt to explain things (saying that there are at least 3 we didn't know about before: Classic World (of the Genesis games, apparently Mighty is a part of that world), Human World (where games like Sonic Adventure and 2006 take place), and Sonic's World (Modern Sonic world)). This explanation sounds more like Sonic X than it does any of the games.
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/06/11/iizuka-we-probably-think-youll-see-chaos-again-soon-sonics-world-human-world-is-separate/
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I'm interested in if they're going to start a whole new continuity, but I do hope that Ian Flynn comes back to write and Tyson Hesse gets brought on to maybe draw more spin-offs.
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>>94661192
thats some death of the author shit man
i mean thats wither complete nonsense or a gross mistranslated, like it directly flies in the face of Gens which had Classic Sonic directly referenced to as a younger version of Modern Sonic and referenced all the mainline games as happening.
and why would this need explanations in the first place? no one was perplexed when Sonic went from fighting Eggman on islands in 1-3&K to a small planetoid in CD to an Urban environment in Adventure
i mean either Iizuka makes shit up on the spot to fill time in interveiws or its a misquote/translation cause i cant really comprehend why he would say something so dumb
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>>94660287
> And I legitimately don't know why people are so against Sonic comics being about Sonic the Hedgehog and not some contrived sci-fi soap opera.
Because perpetual 'robot boss of the week' stories would get old quick, doubly so if they treat it as more of a gag comic. A good action comic needs real stakes, a reason to emotionally invest in the characters.
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>>94659756
and Adventure 2 had him down perfectly
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>>94661354
What Ian was doing actually felt like something you's see in a Sonic video game; evil Egg Bosses and a focus on a world that looks like the one you'd play in the games.

Everything prior WAS just a weird sci-fi Soap Opera that honestly felt like a generic 90s treehugger Saturday afternoon cartoon.
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>>94657620
So you basically want Ian's run to keep going.
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>>94659972
looks like Tails Gets Trolled really overstayed its welcome
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>>94661443
Sci-fi/Saturday afternoon cartoon elements aside (and I don't agree that it was that bad), Ian's run had its fair share of soap opera moments.
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>>94659936
>The problem with Blaze is you need to justify why she's around. She's a princess from another dimension, she really should have more important stuff to do then help people out in Sonic's dimension. You can come up with a reason why she's in the main dimension, but then you either have to leave that plot thread dangling for too long, or you have to come up with another reason to bring her back later. Eventually either way it starts to feel wrong or lazy.

What about having characters visiting Blaze's dimension?
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>>94659936
>more important stuff to do then help people out

*more important stuff to do than help people out
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>>94662044

That's an idea but I think you're missing the point. Eventually the dimension hopper needs to go home. Then what?
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>>94661580
So long as it feels like Sonic characters doing it and not "A Very Special Episode of Woodland Critters" it might not be as bad.

Like, erase Sonic from that panel and no-one'd believe you if you told them it had anything to do with Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>>94655860
I-is she confimed?
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>>94662866
>confimed
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>>94662866
For Sonic Boom she is.
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>>94662866
She's one of the major game character girls other than Amy so it'd be weird not to see her.
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>>94652010
>Hopes
That IDW crosses over Sonic with any other property.
>Fears
That they'll bring back characters like the Freedom Fighters.
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>>94660319
You're just going to ignore whatever the poster you're replying to is saying so you can push your narrative, aren't you?

>If he only ever wrote 39 actual issues
He worked on well over 100 issues.
As a backup writer, writing the supplementary backstory and side story chapters after the main story.

Seriously, get the fuck over yourself.
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>>94663160
really? proof?
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>>94652174
>IDW's Comix Zone
I want it to happen.
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>>94663160
Sounds nice, only watched one episode but it was fun.
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>>94652010
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>>94652411
A Shinobi comic could be cool, but it would require stylish paneling and art in order to get the much out of it.

It could also have a crossover mini with TMNT.
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>>94662866

They haven't given any word on anything yet but she's a pretty major character so I don't see why she wouldn't eventually show up.

>>94663160

Wait for reals? You're not razzing me right?
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>>94655375
I liked Scourge. And Shard
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I want Meh Burger to become an official part of the canon
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>>94656972
>Concept Rouge was originally just Amy with Wings

Thank goodness they really dodged a bullet there...
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I swear to christ this fucking show
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>>94664428
There is no canon.
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>>94661580
>Monkey Khan

Whatever even happened to that dude anyways? Did he get Pendered?
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>>94652010
They will treat it like they treat mlp.
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>>94654668
Isn't that dependent on hasbro agreeing?
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>>94659416
>>94659464
Was anyone really interested in this arc?
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>>94664571
He went away after the reboot, although IIRC he was a Bollers character. Anyway, I liked what Ian with him.
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>>94664835
>I liked what Ian with him.
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>>94664937
I see what you there
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>>94664651
I don't think anyone was interested in the furry romance drama era of Archie Sonic
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>>94665004
You can think that if you want, but you're wrong. As I told the other anon earlier in this thread, one only has to look at the letters they would receive to know how the audience felt about particular elements of the book. And shipping is something the fans did since the beginning, so "romance" and "drama" just seemed par for the course for them.
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>>94652110
this
the whole Freedom Fighters thing and the story revolving around them boosted the franchise autism tenfold
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>>94665152
overestimating the influence of the comic a little bit there, buddy
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>>94665235

only with the autists. If not for the comic/satm fags the sonic fandom probably wouldn't have near as bad a rep. I mean it would still be bad but more in a pitiable sense, like the idiots who still cling to the hope of a new Mega Man
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>>94665152
Have you considered that a comic based on Sonic the Hedgehog may just not be for you?
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>>94665321
Not a bad one, at least
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>>94665004
>I don't think anyone was interested in the furry romance drama era of Archie Sonic

It sold like hotcakes to the target audience, kids who grew up with the cartoon and were just getting into adolesence.
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic?

A well-written action-adveture title with an irreverent but serious tone.

>Your fears?

LOL SONIC MEMES
LOL VIDYA GAEMS ARE SILLY
CHILLI DAWGS LOL
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>>94654668
Just like in the childhood
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>>94658294
Seeing what they do with TMNT and the Transformers
We'll get them
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>>94666094
>LOL SONIC MEMES
Ian has low chances of coming back thankfully.
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People don't seem to understand what adventure is about. Sonic escaping from a giant whale is adventure. Why whale? Because fuck you. Fishing trip where Tails finds ancient ruins in a cave is an adventure. Why are ruins there? Because fuck you, ADVENTURE!
If anything, worldbuilding stands in the counterpoint of the adventure. Not all questions have to be answered. Why is there a mural of Super Sonic fighting Eggman in a Hidden Palace? You know the answer: because.
Relationship outside of an adventure is worthless, but that's a given.
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>>94657620
>No furry baiting
Shit hopes
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>>94666846

I wish Sonic Undeground wasn't on the list of banned Sonic things for adaptions.
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Here's how I would like it:
>Focus on the game's characters(the main cast, Rouge, Cream & Vanilla, Chaotix, Blaze) but still have the SatAM cast, replace Marine with Sticks
>Have Boom's personalities for the main cast, except maybe Knuckles even though I like him that way
>Drop Shadow and Silver
>Boom's Eggman(he just looks good)
>Taking place in the wacky world of Sonic, mostly nature with simple villages like in SatAM and Boom, the only sci-fi portion would be Robotnik's empire. No humans except Eggman

Now the plot I would hope to not take itself too seriously but with continuity, no furry romance drama. Basically Sonic and friends thwarting Robotnik's plans to take over the rest of the world while going on adventures to retrieve the Chaos Emeralds or something

>25% Exploration adventures
>25% Action
>25% Comedy
>25% Character and Lore development
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>>94667053
Will Sonic have blue arms?
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>>94667121
What? Do you want to another CWClocaust?
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>>94667140
Yes
Yes I do Anon
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>>94667053
>Drop Shadow and Silver
Haha, never happening. Also aside from Tails, I'd rather the Boom personalities stay in Boom.
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>>94665303
>he sonic fandom probably wouldn't have near as bad a rep
The only reason why the Sonic fandom keeps having such a 'bad rep' is because people keep bringing the badness up even after it's long past almost any drop of relevance. It's pretty much a CalArts-level maymay at this point.
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>>94667255
Yeah, I don't really expect them to be dropped. But Boom's personalities are the superior ones, specially Amy's
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>>94667274
>specially Amy's
Not really. I like Boom Amy, but she can still be pretty damn bad in certain episodes, like how Amy has been pretty bad n certain games.
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>>94667298
What do you mean? I only watched the first season on Netflix. What's the "Superior Amy" in your opinion?
I like Boom's quirky but still girly Amy
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>>94667328
Well, pretty damn bad might be too strong a phrase, but in Season 2, Boom Amy can get pretty bitchy. The show does a decent job handling it at least, but I'd still put her below post-reboot Archie Amy
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>>94667298
>>94667328
>>94667390
To interject, I would certainly say that stuff in Boom certainly works while in Boom, but only because it exaggerates stuff for comedy and how it makes fun of itself and the franchise, which appeals to the part of the fans that love taking a shot at the series, but falls apart if they were actually the norm, dropping what people like about the characters.
Outside of it, I don't think they'd translate well or ever go as far as being "superior" than main interpretations of the characters. The personalities of Boom only work in the sense of being made fun of, which is their job, but they don't stand too strong on their own.

A good Amy is one that's positive and emotional, though Archie's Amy that's also more confident and strong is refreshing, too.
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>>94657228

>and allows Sonic to flourish as a character instead of being the same generic two-dimensional caricature he'd been recently

Wishful thinking there, if Sega gets too involved with the comic. They were the ones insisting on Sonic being a flat two-dimensional character after the Penders lawsuit.
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For Penders to try and go after Sega and/or IDW, get destroyed and lose all his stuff again.
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>>94667775
What I like about the Boom characters is that they complete eachother. Watching them in season 1 made me want an actual action/adventure show with them, they could work well as main characters of a Shounen anime. Sonic in this series isn't much different, but I think i'm under the impression he is a superior Sonic thanks to his interactions with the others
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>>94668055
>IDW does a Mario and Sonic Tie-In
>Penders Sues
>Accidentally ends up Suing Nintendo
>Penders loses all of his money forever and starves to death cold and alone on the street
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>>94655000
People are triggered by it because it's an actual kids show that doesn't always take itself seriously, and kids who grew up on the 2003 show are mad that most of the references and homages are to the 87 show.
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>>94668255

I'm sure his wife dissuades him from his crazier ideas
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>>94668055
If he sues, it'd be for reprint shit again. And we'd be back in the same situation as before since they'd have to dig up the non-existent contracts from Archie, so they'd get fucked over again even though they don't have the license anymore
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>>94655662
>>94655662
>>94655662
Repeating this, since there's still some people whining about "muh game-based stories!" Reminder, you aren't buying the comics, so your opinion is worthless.
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic? Your fears?

Hopes:
>Solid writing and artwork
>Recognisably "Sonic" without any of the weird shit that turned me off in a adulthood.

Fears:
>Calling Eggman "Robotnik"
>"Planet Mobius"
>""Roboticization"
>"Freedom Fighters"
>"Sonia and Manic"
>"Werehog"
>"Black Arms"
>"Soleanna"
>"Mephiles"
>"Lyric"
>Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles
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>>94665004
I fucking loved it when Sally went all "You don't mess with my friends"
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>>94669368
>Calling Eggman "Robotnik"
How long has "Eggman" been universally accepted now? 20 years?
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>>94669368
>Fears:
>Calling Eggman "Robotnik"

You're going to have to get over that one. The name "Robotnik" has been decanonized by Sega. His only identity canonically is "Eggman". All of the old Western localization shit, like Mobius and Robotnik, have been retired and are offlimits.
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>>94669368
>Calling Eggman "Robotnik"
Sega.com: Did Sonic have a hand in changing Dr. Robotnik's name to Dr. Eggman for the United States games? If so, was he trying to make fun of his nemesis?
Yuji Naka: To tell the truth, his name has not changed. Robotnik is his real name and Eggman is a common name taken after his shape. Possibly, it may have been Sonic, who uttered this alias for the first time! I feel, though, Sonic uses this name affectionately, rather than trying to make fun of the doctor.
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>>94669194
Well gee, maybe they'd buy them if it had more
>game-based stories
?
Also
>muh Satam-based games
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>>94670604
Satam was gonna have its own genesis game but.. ehh..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8vj7uqdcCY
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so any one else like in Mania how in Tails & Sonic mode when you finish a level Sonic's animation will make him hop so he's not in the way of Tails?
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>>94652010
Hopes: MLP crossover
Fears: MLP crossover
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>>94669368
>>Knuckles and Knuckles and Knuckles

>not liking Knuckles from KNUCKLES with Knuckles and Knuckles
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>>94667053
>SatAM
>Drop Shadow and Silver
>Replace Marine (sometimes I feel like only i liked her)
OUT
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>>94671370
>hopes
why
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>>94669368

Edgelord detected.
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>>94656972
All this reminds me of is that Shadow would've been a better character if he were a woman.
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>>94661329
lizuka is first and foremost, a level designer. He cant write or direct for shit. He honestly thinks he knows what's best for sonic.
Including shoving green hill into fucking everything now.
It was fine when it was a bonus level in SA2, and fine when it was the first level in Gens, but now it's in Mania AND Forces.
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>>94662771
I'm of the opinion that Sonic is more reckless and rebellious spirit. He's been stated time and again to be chaos incarnate, right? A big crux of his character would be to make him not evil, but revel in the fight and action and adrenaline. He treated the world shattering in Unleashed as more of an annoyance/challenge than anything else.

Making him the righteous action hero of good and light and heaven and all that bullshit is almost purely a western development.
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>>94664477
Its absurd how good Boom has become, especially after 2 mediocre/awful games, 1 decent to okay game, and a comic that got baleeted Thanks to fucking Kaminski's boner for crossovers.
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>>94673236
>Its absurd how good

*It's absurd how good
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>>94673117
To be fair to Iizuka, he was promoted to the position of head guy of Sonic Team solely because he was the longest-tenured person in ST Naka left.
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>>94673301
You're gonna get on my ass for a fucking apostrophe?
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>>94673337
But that's exactly what's wrong with Japanese companies. They prize nepotism and insane work hours that result in death.
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>>94673236
It's nice to see a series that has enough writing freedom to do what it wants, and it's not particularly worried about pissing off someone. I want to say the French studio has a lot to do with that.
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>>94673438
True, but given how Iizuka is now only a supervisor in Forces, chances are he may be slowly getting phased out
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>>94652010
Scratch and Grounder mini series.
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>>94673537
damn dude, relax
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>>94673185
That may be something of Japanese mentality. Consider your house fucked up by an earthquake or a tidal wave, but you're sure about the future and getting a compensation and that relatively soon you'll be back to normal life.
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>>94673421
He's been doing this for the past week or so, just ignore it
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>>94673537
Okay here, take your (You). Now fuck off
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>>94673537
I've got a panel just for you
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>>94673545

It'll happen.

Bebop and Rocksteady were in the same position as Scratch and Grounder in TMNT fandom. Everyone was shitting on them for belonging to the "stupid comedy" phase of an adaption and said they would never be back. Even Laird had expressed his distaste for them.

And then IDW got hold of the license and not only did Bebop and Rocksteady come back, but it was fucking glorious and they got a mini of their own which was amazing.
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>>94671917
Marine and Silver just feel bland unnecessary. Shadow is black Sonic who works for the bad guys sometimes because a girl was murdered, I mean, does a comic about a blue hedgehog that goes fast to fight a mad scientist called Dr. Eggman realy need this "Ultimate Lifeform"?
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>>94673501
Really? Thank god.
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>>94673632
Considering that Sonic has had shit like Chaos, Shadow isn't too surprising. It's just how they handled him that was pretty bad.
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>>94673632
Why IS he a bad guy again in Forces anyway
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>>94673632

Shadow is Sonic's rival. Eggman is Sonic's arch-enemy, but Shadow is his rival opposite. That's why they keep using him. Sure his backstory is really tonally weird for the series, but that's why they keep putting him in games.
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>>94673682
They said that they're gonna explain it in Forces
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>>94673671
Chaos is the least bad thing that came out of the "Sonic is fighting eldritch gods now"

>>94673708
I know. As I said, I don't actually expect him to be dropped
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>>94671938
Some men just want to watch the world burn
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>>94669671
>I feel, though, Sonic uses this name affectionately, rather than trying to make fun of the doctor.
That's actually really cute.
>>94673682
In terms of narrative, it's because Sonic needs a bad guy who isn't Robotnik. Knuckles used to be that, when he kept falling for Robotnik's bullshit every other game. They tried it with Nack the Weasel, but he was in games nobody really remembers.

Shadow and Rouge have been rehabilitated, and Omega is basically Gamma again only with less personality (in the games, at least). Shadow has the biggest fanbase, so he gets his wafer-thin character development reset
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>>94673632
>realy need this "Ultimate Lifeform"?

More importantly does it need a little girl getting murdered by government agents to provide drama for said life form? I think that's really the more pressing takeaway. A dark Sonic rival is, eh whatever. Especially considering how soft Knuckles got
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>>94674177

I think Ill miss Archie Omega most of all
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>>94674345
We all will, Anon.

We all will.
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>>94652033
>Ian
Hope not.
>Tyson
That would be cool.
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- Use characters that aren't just the megadrive characters + shadow
- Use scrapped characters like Honey, Battle kuku, Mighty, etc
- Keep story tone like Adventure 1 or Unleashed
- make sonic's world as psychedelic, vibrant, and dream like as it is in the games and the OVA (Naoto Oshima's influenced)
- Good artist hopefully
- keep cool lore elements a thing (ex. shadow based off hidden palace zone mural of super sonic, egg dragoon built from the same parts of the egg viper, Sky Babylon is Blaze's world Sky Sanctuary)
- no origin story or retelling of sonic games that came out 20 years ago, please
- all new stories, sometimes with tie-ins with recent released games
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>>94674345
>>94674569
He was too good for this world
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SO HOW ABOUT THAT HYDORCITY ZONE MINI BOSS IN MANIA
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>>94674937
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>>94674978

No
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>>94675392
how are we supposed to have a stealth Mania thread in this thread if none of you are gonna participate
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>>94674978
>>94675458
Have it on /v/. PCfats are avoiding that board to avoid spoilers.
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>>94675480
but i want to talk with people who like video games
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>>94675688
Well, there is the Sonic general on /vg/
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>>94673625
>Everyone was shitting on them
But most people like Scratch and Grounder.
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>>94675823

Look in this thread. All these butthurt "MUH VIDYAS" fags.
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>>94652033
>Do you think they'll bring Ian back?

Simon Furman.
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>>94672960
No? edgy women characters are the worst
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>>94677086
While some people are saying they want video game only stuff to appear, most people seem to want to see the characters who have been getting lots of panel time (the Freedom Fighters first and foremost) to be downplayed or removed. Scratch and Grounder haven't been a big part of the comics since early on, so I don't think people are sick of them.
On the other hand, they are sort of redundant thanks to these guys.
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>>94675480
>PCfats

You chose your side, now deal with it.
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>People don't want the Freedom Fighters to return, but they want the man who oversaw them for 11 years.

I'm not saying Ian is bad, but I'm just tired of him. When you're job is "being better than Penders," he didn't have much competition in the 2000s. But I think the franchise needs new blood, and the man cannot write an arc to save his life.
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>>94672960
I wouldn't be against that, though it would result in people comparing her and that Kill la Kill character even more. Shadow wouldn't have become as popular as he has if Shadow was a she though. Normally these reflections of characters are the same gender, because you want to focus on the important differences between characters as much as possible, not being distracted by things like gender.
All that would happen if Rogue was named Shadow is the dark, edgy hedgehog from Sonic Adventure 2 would have kept the concept name Terios the Hedgehog.
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>>94677697

Orbot and Cubot are okay, but visually very boring.
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So what is sonic's origins? Why does he speak
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>>94677595
do you think Sinon could wright Sonic stories? he tends to prefer the harder hitting stuff.
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>>94677977
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>>94672960
>Shadow would've been a better character if he were a woman.
Anon who storytimed Chaos here. No, no he wouldn't, I have proof.
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>>94678017
what the fuck is that
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>>94673611
dat angle
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>>94678032
http://info.sonicretro.org/Original_Story
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>>94677713
>chose not to pay into cancer paid online kikemachines
Feels good. I can wait a couple weeks.
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>>94678109
holy crap!
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>>94678504
>kike
Go the fuck back to /pol/, scumbag
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>>94677987
No you dope, I'm pointing out that IDW jumped right on the equivalent for Transformers. Ian is to Sonic as Simon is to Transformers in a number of ways. They'll have him write SOMETHING eventually.
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>>94678537
You can stay on topic and respond to the content instead of tone, or you can go there yourself.
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>>94677977
game canon is "just because" walking talking animals" and well as small non anthropomorphic animals exist side by side in the games and very little attention is drawn to that fact.
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>>94678547
i know i made a joke in that you very brief answer could be easily misconstrued as saying Simon Furman should write for Sonic
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>>94677977
He comes from Christmas Island, where he was born. In Sonic's universe, it's an island where it's always Christmas. Sonic is personal friends with Santa Clause. His designers says Sonic's shoes are inspired by Santa's style and color scheme (red and white, gold buckle).
Sonic is unusually fast, and likes going to new places fast. The shoes were a gift from Santa. They never wear out and build up as much traction as Sonic needs to keep going, or stop suddenly.
Sonic wanted to see the world, so Santa gave Sonic a red and white biplane with Sonic's name on it. Sonic then left his home in search of adventure, and he found South Island. This is the secret origin of Sonic the Hedgehog.
He speaks because he has a high IQ, I guess.
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I see a lot of Archie concepts coming back. Every IDW comic seems to try and celebrate every aspect of their franchises rather than any singular incarnation

I say that only having read Ghostbusters, Transformers, and TMNT.
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>>94678876
I just hope they give Eggman more minions, be them cyborgs like the egg army or robots like the HBH from Mania. Eggman really shined when he had a crew of minions to annoy/intimidate. Minions that aren't just Orbot, Cubot and occasionaly Metal Sonic.
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Archie Sonic is DEAD

Sally Acorn? DEAD
Rotor? DEAD
Bunny? DEAD
Antoine? DEAD
Sonic's dad? DEAD
Freedom fighters? DEAD
And Eggman that works with [thing] The [animal] furry abominations? DEAD DEAD DEAD
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The HBH as regulars. They're so fun.
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You know, people are going to call me WaifuFag but the only archie characters I care about are the females. I say this because the comics handle female characters better, while the games cover the male ones
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>>94677798
People just don't know any non-awful Sonic writers other than him
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>>94679147
>Being this assblasted that IDW is continuing Sonic comics.
Go to bed Ken.
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>>94654973
Eggman as an industrialist, real estate mogul, and businessman. A genius that cares about mankind and advancing human civilization, but all of his methods involve damaging the Earth and its animal creatures. He's a ruthless man that will do anything, and hurt anyone, to achieve his dreams of a nature-free utopian Earth. Eggman is childish and selfish but he has things beyond himself that he cares about. The human race. Ivo Robotnik uses jolly old "Eggman" as a brand. He sells his products and services to the public, making him a very beloved, and very rich man. He uses these riches to fund his secret villainous endeavors. Over the course of the comic, the public may start to turn on him, but Eggman is a deceptive man. He'll always know what to say and do to cover up or justify his monstrous actions, and he'll pay off any authorities that would try to put him away. Make Eggman dark and antagonistic, but still grey.

Sonic as a little guy that just likes to see the world. When he comes across Eggman polluting the Earth and taking homes from animals for monitory game or progress, he opposes him. When he wants to get somewhere he's impatient, but he doesn't mind taking it easy either. He's pretty serious but not a stick in the mud, but he's not too friendly either. He's not a "power of friendship" kind of guy or much of a team player, he'll always try to do things on his own, unless someone else can keep up with him. He cares about people, animals, and nature, and will help out someone in need if they're nearby enough.

Others come and go. Eggman isn't the villain of every issue. Sonic will make new friends, help them, and leave them, find new enemies and thwart them, but in the end it's just about Sonic, Eggman, and planet Earth. Introduce Tails as another main character. Sometimes Tails can catch up, but he frequently gets left behind again.
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>>94679343
Dork.
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>>94679460
>Eggman as an industrialist, real estate mogul, and businessman.
To anyone who doesn't know, this is actually canon to the games.
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>>94677697
>On the other hand, they are sort of redundant thanks to these guys.
Can easily play them as ex-goons doing their own thing
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>>94679602
SatAM and Sonic Adventure pretty much killed it. t would be pretty fresh to use that as the basis of his character now.
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Where can I read the Archie comics? I tried using Library Genesis, but I got 404'd.
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>>94679886

And then Sonic Battle and Riders brought it back.
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>>94679933
And also colors technically. I mean, the Eggman Enterprises lines were probably more of a joke than anything, but hey, he did legally build that amusement park.
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>>94679917
readcomiconline.io
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>>94679147
>Bunnie or Antoine
>Dead

I give them five years tops before they show up again.
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>>94679147
Cry more Penders.
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>Implying Penders isn't celebrating his victory over Archie
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>>94652010
What are your hopes for IDW's Sonic?

>Get the TMNT quality treatment.
>See some familiar faces from the Archie days ( Spaz, Flynn, Yardley, Stanley, Bates, Bryce Thomas, etc ).
>Get some of the old Archie ( mainly Flynn's pre-reboot stuff ) and Fleetway material reprinted.
>Finish Mega Drive.
>Experimental mini-series, in the vein of Stokoe's Godzilla in Hell and Scioli's Transformers vs. G,I.Joe

Your fears?

>The comic to become just a promotional piece with no substance.
>They get an idealogue/SJW to write the comic.
>Penders in some extent will fuck the comic up legally.
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>>94680594
He isn't, because he actually wanted Archie and Sega to come crawling to him and pay to use his characters.
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>>94680633
>They get an ideologue/SJW to write the comic.
Sega cares more about actual story than progressive messages. So don't worry about that. It won't turn into Marvel.
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>>94679343
>>94680545
t. babies that actually miss penders shit too
Sorry kids, but it's all gone now. Your shitty million echidnas are dead, and now the rest are dead too.
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>>94652010
Andy Price doing the illustrations.
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>>94680709
I still have hope.
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>>94680633
>they get an ideologue/SJW to write the comic
I know some people called Ian Flynn an SJW, but if he is, he's one of the ones who puts his work over his political views. Not to mention given how much of an eye SEGA's keeping on everything Sonic, I wouldn't worry too much.
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>>94680862
Besides last I checked the cast of sonic are fucking anthros, not humans. They can't really do much than make gay characters and we already have Rotor.
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>>94680709
>t. babies that actually miss penders shit too
I really, really don't.

We could storytime all of Penders' writing for the comic if you want. I assure you, not a single story was actually good.
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>>94680967
what was pender's number range of issues that he did for the archice comic?
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>>94652010
I have no hope.
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>>94681840
11-159.

This is far less content than you would expect, as he was absent from about...I'd say a dozen issues or so and mostly did backups. Even if you factor in every single comic he did, it's about 100 issues worth at most given how fucking short a lot of them are.

Check his bibliography here.
http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Ken_Penders
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>>94664428
I want Lady Walrus to become part of the main series so we can have MY BABY in every game
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>>94682037
Ick just seeing that range alone is sickening to see he had that much to do with the series.
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>>94682913
You sound like a fuckin' girl
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>>94682952
and?
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>>94683091
>and?
....fuck you
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>>94652010
Hopes: Part of me still wants Sally to be around. But that's mostly my chronic shipping disease at work.
A competent Ivo Eggman Robotnik that can and does succeed at times.
A copy of Ken Penders's contract being found somewhere and used to take back all the old characters, even if we still never see them again
Fears: >>94659416 >>94659464 this ultimatum ever being made again
Echidnas besides Knuckles and Tikal even if the above spoiler happens
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huh
Heavy Magician and Heavy Rider in the Hard Boiled Heavies are both girls.
so
have you waifu'd them yet?
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>>94680688
This.

He ACTS like he's celebrating, but in reality all his plan was for him to get royalties out of his characters because he really thinks people will be crawling back for them.

That's why he tried to rile up other authors of the comic to ask for their characters after the reboot. And its why he is now claiming the same with some Star Trek comics against IDW.

His intention is always to be rewarded for the work he did in the past, not actually create new stuff. Its why he whines about royalties but says "Oh i could totally get the job at IDW, but I won't try because I don't need to." He doesn't want to write or draw /anything/, he wants to get quick money out of stuff he did before.

Maybe at some point he may have wanted to do new stuff, him believing people were clamouring so much for the enchilada crew that he'd basically get paid by fan support alone (Wouldn't be surprised if his plan was to sap said fans into paying for his work)

Of course that blew up in his face and its why everything Lara-su is all talk and no progress now. He has no desire in working on it because he wants money now and he is not getting it; "Why bother working on my amazing work that I know will be a hit, if I'm not getting paid to do so? After all i don't need to prove my stuff is good, I just need the money because you can trust me it is good."

This is why whenever he claims he is doing this out of artistic integrity, it riles me up. He is not doing it because of that, he just wants a paycheck he doesn't want to work for.

It's why he is poking at IDW for star trek stuff that were mostly DC-controlled, cause he thinks IDW is the easier target 8which still isn't). it's why he keeps poking at Sonic more than his other stuff, because he knows Archie's incompetence got him at least known; If he had tried this for all the other stuff he claims to have worked for he'd probably have gotten his ass handed to him worse than SEGA/EA did it him for Chronicles.
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>>94677798
I'd love to see him share things with other writers, or I'd love f a new face would do Sonic like it should be.

But its hard to say how much any of IDW's writers care for Sonic. So, it's very natural, me included, that people want Ian back. As you said, his life was Sonic for over 11 years, so at LEAST he has the experience to generate some trust over some guy that, while could be a popular writer in other books, could give zero fucks about Sonic.

We won't know until the comics start of course. But personally, I don't think its bad if Ian returns. One also has to consider that for most of his run he had to play with a bad hand. Having from fix Penders' disaster-of a-comic and then later having that get rebooted and trying to fix that quickly. He never got a chance to REALLY start from scratch, not even in the post-crossover reboot. Everytime he has to work his way around some internal issue so it'd be nice if we can at least see how he works with a full-flat-out new series.
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>>94668223
I think i see a little where you're comics from. If we go by the games, Sonic tends to do most of the work on his own while his friends tag along. In Boom, despite the comedy, everything seems more balanced between them.

The perfect blend'd be having the group-bonding of Boom mixed with the personalities of the main games.
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>>94660226
Nack bean and bark
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>>94684432

Pretty much. Archie intentionally retired his characters. They didn't HAVE to. The settlement specifically said they were allowed to keep using them as long as they paid Penders royalties.

The decision to wipe them all out was intentionmal so that Archie wouldn't have to give Penders any money or recognition.
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>>94678109
What the hell am I looking at? This is one Sonic Retro's wiki, which is generally speaking totally reliable, but... what the actual FUCK? The "Mary Garnet" portion of the story sounds way, waaaay too much like a shitty Sonic fanfic I read years ago... I just.... how? How can I possibly believe that Sega of Japan wrote this insanity?
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>>94684220
This is a turn off.
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>>94685772

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Technical_Files

It's either real or a very well spread fake.
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>>94685916
what, you dont like ovoid robots?
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>her

buy?
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>>94652110
>>94665152
>>94665303
>>94665331
>I only want everything to be sanic1story wit jus sanic and eggminz running through green hill

Fuck off Motoroach and peddle your quake bootleg elsewhere.
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>>94684220
why tho
is this even official
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>>94652010
I hope it's a completely fresh take. Fuck the tone of the games, move past the tone of Archie, try something new.
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>>94671938
It could be fun. It'd be cute to see Tails doting over rainbow pony only to find out they really don't have anything in common and Tails would be a better match with book pony, who's hanging out with Sonic who hates every second of it. That sort of thing.
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>>94684220
>no feminine traits at all aside from the one on the right being pink
Why bother?
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>>94670686
No it wasn't. That is a mockup, not a game. It's somebody's 'wouldn't it be cool' that got canned before development began because it actually wouldn't have been cool. You really need to learn to tell the difference between a mockup and a game prototype. I bet you think FF7 remake footage exists too.
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>>94686484
I'd like to see the first issue to be taking place at the Green Hill Zone to see all of you buttblasted to high heavens.
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>>94687515
That's more feminine traits than Tails had.
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>>94680909

Wasn't Rotor being gay something Penders came up with? Anything he did was retconned and it was never stated what sexuality post-reboot Rotor was.
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>>94687870
Other than his obvious crush on Sonic.
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>>94687762
That would be pretty annoying and shitty, yes. We've had that I'm the comics like 6 times and in the games about a dozen.
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>>94684432
He's only pro-creator's rights because he counts as a creator, and even then he only cares about himself and people who worked on comics while he was still young (60-early 90 Marvel, primarily).

He doesn't give a FUCK about anyone who got into the industry after he did. When over a dozen people lost their gig at Archie this year, did you see him linking Patreons? Did you see him asking people to support the creators Archie let go? Did you see him list ANY names at all; offer even the tiniest olive branch? Hell no. He does not care about other people.
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>>94687762
I wouldn't be buttblasted since I know you won't be able to peddle your shitty quake bootleg Motoroach.
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>>94688205

>He does not care about other people.

This. He prides himself on the fact that he never read any other writers' work on Sonic comic, even when he worked there (and it is mandatory to work along with other writers if you want to keep the story consitent), and at one point openly said that if Archie re-hired him to work on Sonic, he would promptly undo everything Ian wrote up to that point and bring back his own stories and characterizations.

It's not just that he doesn't care about other people, he is also an attention-whoring egocentric motherfucker who would willingly stomp out anything his colleagues do just to make his stories the only relevant ones. Number one reason why I believe he will never work in pro industry again; his inability to share the spotlight with his colleagues.
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>>94688312

Who is this Motoroach autist?
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>>94688074
Name me any other way to show a nature-rich friendly enviroment with enough space to run as a starting level. At best you get the same Green Hill, except in autumn or something.
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>>94688626
The Old World - a forest with a mix of old trees too tall to interact with and young ones that bend when you run over them. Rotting logs over streams, animal burrows for underground sections, high branches for a third, vertical path.

Blue Hill Zone - A watering hole filled with aquatic sections that Sonic can run across instead of sink into - also showcasing his speed. He can go underwater, introducing this mechanic early on, while ramps and rocks can shoot him up to clouds, or perhaps flying billboards to introduce Robotnik's dystopic side early on.

Warren HIll - The primary path is underground, through a rabbit hutch. This will showcase the animal side of nature, by showing several different species living in harmony while you run through. Badger burrows lead to rabbit holes. The high path will take you through bird nests and tall trees.

God damn, work is slow today.
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>>94688626
If you mean a returning game level, there's Angel Island, Mushroom Hill, the various beach levels, Leaf Storm, pretty much every other forest level as well, etc.
If you mean a new level, there's plenty of lush boomers they haven't tried yet. They don't have to start on checkerboard dirt with grassy tops.
If you mean the comics need to start on a pre-existing location, you're nuts.
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>>94659464
What is her problem?
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>>94689540
Forced drama + pencils being at odds with the writing.

The script clearly calls for stiff, hyperfocused tension like it's a soap opera, but the pencils are energetic, loose and bombastic. Not defending the writing, just saying that's why it comes off as bad as it does.
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>>94659416
Sonic can cry? I've only ever seen it in that one cover with him sulking in the dark.
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>>94652010
My hope is that they either
>A: Continue the series from where Archie left off starting with the issues that they solicited but never released and just continue on from there
>B: Start the series from scratch starting with an adaptation of Sonic 1 and working their way from there while slowly incorporating elements from other Sonic media and pretty much doing everything this guy suggested >>94654934

And despite which option they go with, they'll still
>Release Mega Drive #3
>Bring back most of the creative team from the Archie series including Ian Flynn, Tracy Yardley, Tyson Hesse, Diana Skelly and Matt Herms
>Finish the trade releases for the post reboot Archie issues

My fear is that they do a crossover with you know what and it drives humanity to ruins.

>>94673545
>>94673625
This would also be awesome.
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>>94689823
Yeah, he's just not allowed to bawl because it would be out of character. He's inherently cool and composed, so his negative emotions tend to be understated (aside from anger).

It's also because that shit's bad for marketing.
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>>94664432
I mean, hedgehogs are sometimes called needlemice, and bats are sometimes called mice with wings. You get the idea.
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>>94666993
eat shit Tamers
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>>94691517
>eat shit Tamers

*Eat shit, Tamers.
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>>94684220
Both are easily better choices than waifuing Amy.
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>>94670604
Mega Man was entirely game-based. It sold so poorly it got cancelled. You would have known this if you read the original post.

I predict IDW will listen to all these whiny cunts, make the comic entirely game-based, and it will sell like shit since the whiny cunts aren't actually buying comics, just like Mega Man.
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Why are there so many songs in Sonic media that don't make sense/are about random things?
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>>94693165
I don't know, I'm holding out a bit of hope. At least the early MLP comics led me to think that IDW staff has some pulse on the internet scene and with hoe huge Boom is online, I'm hoping IDW might go in that direction instead of the game autists.
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>>94693165
>Mega Man was entirely game-based. It sold so poorly it got cancelled
You sure it's not because Mega Man is a nearly dead franchise that hasn't had a new game in almost a decade that young children most likely aren't familiar with?

Meanwhile Sonic still has new games coming out at least every couple years, and tv shows and toys and a bunch of other shit and little kids fucking love it in case you aren't aware.

There are people who will read Sonic comics no matter what the fuck they do as proven by how the series survived the Dark Ages. Yes, there are people who will lose interest if they do constant game adaptations but it's not going to kill sales in the way you're thinking.
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>>94693707
Alright, but neither Sonic X or Universe had the sales the main comic had, and those were mostly based on game-only characters. Game-based comics don't sell that well, even when there's a TV show airing with the same name(X sold poorly).

I get what you are saying, but the numbers just don't support it.
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>>94686612
why not
and yes, its from the manual
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>>94687515
why not, its not like being a spheroid robot with stick limbs is inherently a gendered thing
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>>94687963
Who cares really? Nobody gave a damn because it was irrelevant and not important. They didn't give him a boyfriend they just said "he's gay" and literally that was it.
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>>94694094
>The spinoffs didn't sell as much as the main series
Yeah. Okay.
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>>94693707
Considering how poorly the Mega Man 3 arc sold compared to the rest of the comic? The adaptations being boring retreads was definitely a factor. There are plenty of reasons that book bombed, MM's irrelevance being among them, but adapting games rigidly for the sake of adapting them was a big turnoff for a lot of fans.
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>>94694756
He's wrong anyway, as Universe eclipsed StH in sales a few times. That said, adaptations that aren't loose, brief or really testing the word "adaptation" tend to be sales cancer in comics.
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>>94694921
>as Universe eclipsed StH in sales a few times.
So the main comic sold consistently better? That's exactly what I said.
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>>94695060
>That's exactly what I said.
>>94694094
>neither Sonic X or Universe had the sales the main comic had, and those were mostly based on game-only characters. Game-based comics don't sell that well
The difference was often between 1000 and 3000 copies. Comics explicitly about popular game characters (Knuckles, Shadow, Silver) surpassed the main comic in sales. Spark of Life, the arc focused on OCs, correlated to a sharp downturn in Universe sales.

So yeah, when the margin is that small and sometimes they swapped places, I'd say Universe had the sales StH had. Game-focused content has no relation to sales aside from occasionally bumping it if it's focusing on something hot (like Shadow, whose presence DOUBLED StH sales in 2005). It's trite adaptations and a lack of creative freedom for the writers and artists that kills comics.
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>>94652174
>space channel 5 comic
please god
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>>94693165
>Mega Man was entirely game-based.

It actually wasn't. It introduced OCs of DeviantART-tier, gave Megaman a WHY MUST I FIGHT drama that got horribly overplayed and completely changed the plots of the games (which existed, barely)
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>>94680633
>Experimental mini-series, in the vein of Stokoe's Godzilla in Hell and Scioli's Transformers vs. G,I.Joe
Well, there's a thing I didn't know I wanted
>>94688205
>all those talented people who got fucked over by big companies
>the only comic book guy to really stick to the man is Ken fucking Penders
>>94693448
I kinda like the fact that most of the songs are just about random shit - it's like listening to a radio station play any old song just because it' good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3NR9wQgZOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ1rnCvyWsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BDelOVoHKw
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>>94682913
Again, since he mostly did bad backup stories he ended up contributing a whole lot of nothing. Adding to that, most of his stories were cliffhanger bait where nothing happens but people give out a lot of dates and shit, so you can pretty much ignore the vast majority of his work without even the slightest hiccup in understanding.

Like, issues 90-104 are "Knuckles gains super green Jesus powers, zips around a bit, punches Tails, meets up with his Great Grand Uncle, tries to fix his missing homeland, fails several times, then succeeds. And then like 106-118 is "Knuckles' future daughter visits the past and screws up time a little bit, the evil guys make a truce with the good guys, a different baddie takes the evil guy leader hostage, and Knuckles dies saving him. That's fucking it. The plot moves so slowly and so little happens that about 30 issues of content is worth maybe three or four.
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>>94696004
>the only comic book guy to really stick to the man is Ken fucking Penders
I know you're a tripfag, but don't be retarded.

Ken did nothing for creators' rights, didn't even win, and ended up getting bamboozled by Archie.
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>>94696050
He got their biggest money-maker shitcanned... Granted, he kinda stumbled into it dick-first, but he still did it.
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>>94696159
Archie's biggest money maker is Riverdale.
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>>94696004
Don't forget Look Alike, a song that at first seems like it's a reference to Metal Sonic being Sonic, but then goes off on this thing about how everything on Earth is made on Earth and that's an Earth thing, like pencils and boyfriends.
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>>94696362
Steak and cow.
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>>94696362
>Metal Sonic being Sonic

That fan theory is pretty dumb.
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>>94698136
He did say "I am the real Sonic" in Heroes. Plus he was also voiced by Drummond at the time.
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>>94698203

Robotization doesn't exist in the games. It's only mentioned in Sonic Chronicles and that's because Bioware worked in a lot of Archie canon just because.

Game Eggman can't turn people into robots, that's a cartoon idea.
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>>94698288
Also Fleetway
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>>94698136
>>94698203
I'm just waiting for the inevitable joke that Metal Knuckles is just as gullable as the real Knuckles

I just find the mental image of Metal Knuckles being convinced to guard the Master Emerald funny, especially if he turns out to actually be harder for Eggman to get past
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>>94698288
well to be fair i think robotization was at first just the term used for using little animals as organic batteries
which is still a thing
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>>94695430

How ya gonna do a comic based on music?
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>>94698136
I meant Metal Sonic looking like Sonic, which would've made sense in the song's defense, but then the rest of the lyrics are weird.
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>>94685933
I need evidence.
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>>94695526
Quake woman always did strike me as self-inserty, despite being written by a dude. Her design in particular reminds me of what self-inserts look like though I couldn't tell you exactly why.
(Also Lalonde as a low key love interest for Light always bothered me: if you're going to give the Doctors love interests, does it HAVE to be someone else who makes robots?)
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>>94696159
Which got him fucking nothing. The plan was to get money out of them and he got jack and shit.

He is that kid who "wins" a fighting game by turning off the console mid-fight and yelling "W-w-well at least YOU didn't win..."
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>>94696159
And Riverdale is giving them the bucks. Penders basically did them a favor.

He is so bad that he ends up helping when he tries to ruin people.
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>>94698949

>Riverdale is giving them the bucks.

The show or the rebooted comics? I heard the ratings have been dropping.
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>>94698970
The comics are doing decent. Even then the company still stands and their CEO is such an Archie fanboy he didn't even cared for Sonic.

the point is that I wouldn't call penders as someone who "won" when his entire plan was "Oh my characters are SO important Archie will have no point but to pay me for even using them. Easiest money ever!" and that failed spectacularly.

He is now the owner of a bunch of Echidna rejects for a story he really never wanted to do. Why do you think he still hasn't done beyond 2 unfinished pages? He just wants to be recognized, he doesn't want to actually WORK and now he to say he is to save face.
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Hard Boiled Heavies in some form.
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>>94686432
whats that pic from?
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>>94699182
>her trusted Motorbug, Jimmy
>Jimmy
That amused me more than it probably should have
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>>94699182

So Heavy Magician is a robo Zatanna?
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>>94698581
>>94698377

Well yeah. The idea that Eggman literally turns people into robots was an idea they formulated in the document that they based all the adaptions on. SATAM, AOSTH, Fleetway, Archie all used the same basic document and interpreted it in different ways.

But in the games Eggman never displayed the power to turn anyone into an actual robot, just use them as living batteries.
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>>94698698
Same way they did Jem
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>>94699231
this
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>>94699308
why, s'just a name
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>>94698794
>despite being written by a dude
what if its his wife?
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>>94700070
>that cleave on Rouge

You can tell this was fan made.
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how can i do this
https://youtu.be/SG01t2asUBY
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>>94698377
That wasn't SatAM-style Roboticization, it was the games' sticking animals inside of robots.
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>>94700211
You sure about that?
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>>94698794
His wife designed Tempo and Lalinde.
They were also supposed to be ambiguously brown, but the colorist fucked up.

>Her design in particular reminds me of what self-inserts look like though I couldn't tell you exactly why.
Her design is Bass without the pauldrons.
This makes absolutely no sense because Bass is literally designed on Rock's schematics and Tempo is supposed to predate Rock. It's also stupid because Bass is the intermediate step between Rock and X in design, meaning that "Bass without pauldrons" is reminiscent of Reploids.
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will best character appear?
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>>94700414
i love how one of the yams has a big ol chunk out of it to dive home why shes avoiding the scale
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>>94700557
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>>94699454
actually, real talk: I know Sonic Lost World gets shat on, but it's the first game to ACTUALLY USE the "eggman can literally turn animals into robots" thing. Sort of.
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>>94700098

Because it's a cute yet normal sounding name given to badnick and somewhat humanizes it in a fun way
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>>94700811
Would you really be concerned about your weight if literally all of your body fat went to your tits and ass?
>>
>hopes
Coherent narrative
>fears
Memes
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>>94701055
>literally
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>>94701332
They'll likely do what Archie did and save the memes for off-panels.
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>>94701005

Motobugs are the best
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>>94652010
>hopes
A drama-free Sonic adaptation
>fears
Making it too bland/comfy
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>>94701362
Considering the rest of her body is tiny tubes, yeah, literally. It's the only two places where fat has accumulated in any form.
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>>94684220
>her

They're robots. We only use male pronouns out of habit. Could call all of Eggman's army females.
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>>94654668
>tfw the Ninja Turtles are granted the power of the Chaos Emeralds and become the Super Mutant NinjaTurtles.
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>>94701889

Been there. Done that.
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>>94701871
It's not only habit, that's just the English language works. You do it for any living thing that doesn't have overtly feminine traits.
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>>94699308
>>94701005
It's named after a Sonic Retro member who died.
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>>94700098
>s'just
Why do redditors love to type like that?
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>>94695526
>>94698794
>>94700548
>tfw I see people shitting on Tempo and Lalinde
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>>94652010
I want some hardcore elseworlds. Like they did with Godzilla in Hell. I want some crazy stuff.
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>>94694867
Two giant crossovers which interrupted the main storylines and forced you to buy two additional books to keep up certainly didn't help either.
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>>94701055
i imagine its harder to avoid calories when you're only three foot five
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>>94701871
its eternally excepted that humanoid robots with a certain amount of intelligence can have a gender identity
Rider and Magician have a female one
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>>94652010
>What are your hopes for IDW’s Sonic? Your fears?
Hopes : more sonic boom
Fear: official Sonic MLP cross over
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>>94702588
really?
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>>94702919
So does this mean I'm now a murder when I beat them?
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>>94702668
i have no clue, ive only been on reddit when someone on /gif/ links to a users nudes
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>>94701565
Archie did NOT save the memes for Off-Panels.
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>>94702919
>its eternally excepted that humanoid robots with a certain amount of intelligence can have a gender identity
Only if they're programmed that way. Or are over-exposed to asinine fleshling ways.
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>>94703128
Shit really?
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>>94702945
Yeah, I saw someone on the Retro forums mentioned it. The member who made this article about his passing.

http://www.sonicretro.org/2013/05/rest-in-peace-polygon-jim/

He made a motobug in Sonic 1 hack.
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>>94703224
Did you not read any of them? The lines were positively laced with "GET A LOAD OF THIS" or "SNOOPING AS USUAL I SEE" or any other quote or reference they could cram in. Sometimes it was subtle. Other times not even slightly.

I guess your ability to pick them out is directly dependent on your knowledge of the infamous corners of the franchise..
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>>94700070
episode?
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>>94703306
Fanart.
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>>94703289
Cancelled subscription. Money issues.
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>>94702954
they don't die so no
all the Hard Boiled Heavies leave when beaten rather than blow up
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>>94703262
oh jeeze
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>>94703324
aww man
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>>94703344
This isn't a recent development, anon. It has been a trend for probably as long as Ian was in the writer's chair. Which has been over 10 years now.
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>>94703367
Oh well I guess I should've paid more attention.
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>>94702739
>Point out why the design feels like a self-insert.
>REEEEEEEE STOP PICKING ON MY WAIFU

Oh grow up. Tempo's a decent character but her design was poorly conceived.
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>>94702889
yer tellin me
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>>94703526
You know, the other two anons were talking about her character, so it's not like I was just jumping on you for criticizing her design.
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>>94703621
ur waif a shit
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>>94659800
What is this debauchery
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>>94703732
lies
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>>94703558
is that Teribl?
i haven't seen his stuff after he ran off social media after being exposed as a creeper
but good porn is good porn man
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>>94659795
>Dawn Best
Didn't she work for the Archie comic?
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>>94704279
Yeah. Both as a story artist and Ken's assistant.
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>>94704778
She was leagues better than him, though. Her style was more akin to Spaz'--lots of extreme angles.
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>>94704847
*is more akin to, is what I meant to write. Pic related is from a fan comic she drew.
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>>94703262
Someone should to a Jimmy the Motobug in Sonic 1 hack.
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>>94704847
>>94704879
This looks like a fucking webcomic.
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>>94704928
Which I clarified that it is. See >>94704879
>>
So is there a good chance we'll see a back to basics approach with only content from the Genesis games? For at least the first 2-3 years?
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>>94704928
Here's a page of her Archie work
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>>94705000
>Promo image is Modern Sonic
No. Good.
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>>94704879
i never got why some people though knuckles could fly
even in elementary school i knew Knuckles could only glide
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>>94705094
>He thinks that image was created just for the IDW deal
Are you retarded?
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>>94705123
I get what you're saying, but he flew in the OVA, which, in a pre-Sonic Adventure world, seemed practically canon at the time, seeing as how Sonic Team oversaw the creation of the move.
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>>94705181
*movie
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>>94705152
It was a regular render, but there's little to no chance the first 2-3 years is Genesis only shit regardless.
>>
I hope they don't have Ken Panders situation where a character(cough cough knuckles) loses pretty much his whole species
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>>94706375
I unironically hope they do.
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>>94706375
>where a character(cough cough knuckles)

*where a character (cough cough Knuckles)
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>>94706630
Cough, cough, it's Knuckles
Cocksucker
Laser beam ducker
Hedgehog pussy fucker
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>>94659795
>Allegedly she was designed by someone named Dawn Best, and Sega took the design.
But this was proven to be bullshit. The picture people claimed was the original design was drawn after Rouge was revealed.
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