Supermans trunks

Is it just me or is there something off about the Superman on the right's legs?

it's a poor decision, the shorts broke the color up
it's much less visually interesting when its just a jump suit

>>94583519
yeah, everything beyond the ankle seems a little loose.

>>94583489
Nah, DC's bringing back the classic aesthetic. Acknowledging and making the classic costume canon again is a big step forward.

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>>94583489
I think they’ll come back for Action Comics #1000. Hopefully.

>>94583519
>>94583535
It’s a weird edit. This is from Superman #20.

>>94583569
No they aren't you retard. They'd have to pay every time they used the trunks.

>>94583489
DCEU Superman's is so good

>>94583569
>>94583598
luckily these trunk fags are wrong and the undies are gone for good

>>94583843
I don’t mind Superman not having the trunks, but I prefer the look.

>>94583489
>DCEU accurate
In what fucking way?
>Bright colours
>Happy, smiling Supes
Only the incredibly broad/basic strokes are the same.

>>94583534
Nope. I find it weird that whined about that over the collar and lines, armor playing. New hair, new logo, triangle cape, blsck logo on the cape,new sleeves etc.

It's all reverted back but the trunks and belt.

>>94583489
They gotta get a better belt though.

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>>94583938
The next movie has bright colors as posters, movie stills and merch shows.


>>94583598
They won't.

>>94583569
No they aren't. Rebirth is just restoring legacy and relationship links and reverting some villians and inserting most superman and some Wally history back in.

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Now if only they'd stop adding weird textures to every live-action costume.
What even is this? It doesn't look high-tech, it doesn't look organic, it doesn't look like chainmail, it's just distracting.

>>94584024
>Can't even use one of these supposed brighter, happier images from JL.
I'll believe it when I actually see Superman being happy and enjoying liking being a hero.

>>94583489
Clark is now a Silverback Gorilla, as well.

They'll be back. The costume looks horrible without them.

>>94584099
Disagree, I find it to be a fucking godsend that immeasurably elevates the authentic feel of the suit.
It would look like slick half assed plastic dreck without any texture on it and a thin cloth would look like a pathetic children's costume.

>>94584177
The yellow literally looks like shit. Superman needs to be colourful. He's Batman's foil.

>>94584142
It's out there retard. Not my job to spoon feed fragile X syndrome kids.


>>94584156
Nah. Only faggits think that.

>>94583489
God I fucking hate them so much for putting those groin lines on the BVS/JL suit.
The Mos suit was fucking perfect design wise, It just needed a better blue.

>>94584198
Nah, you just have the taste of a guacamole.

>>94584193
In that shot it does but there are plenty of other shots with it being more gold & reflective that look great.

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Best look coming through.

>>94584177
>>94584193
>>94584099
The texture looks good on the blue body, but I think the logo shouldn't have the same texture.

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>>94584228

>>94583489
That belt looks fucked up

The foot is straight up detached from the leg

>>94584238
Fair, make the red s slick and glossy would be a nice contrast.

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>>94584238
The boots shouldn't either. The colours need to be brighter, as well, especially the red. Make the yellow on the logo black, perhaps.

>>94584255

Have they never done a revival where Clark Kent is actually a strong-man in a carnival?

I could see it working out that he's always been preternaturally strong for as long as he can remember, but not overtly supernatural, and so winds up in this position as a teenage experience-job. And then he can have the full force of his powers suddenly hit when he needs them to deal with a big cataclysmic calamity at the carnival eg. a big fire or whatever. It could be a fun miniseries, and possibly a superior take on pre-superman Clark Kent.

>>94584228
>music by Lolita Ritmanis
Wow.

>>94584099
Looks like it would have the texture of a fucking basketball

Or a car's wheel

I don't see why he needs trunks if he has a brightly colored belt. The MOS one looks awful because there's a tiny vestigial belt that you almost don't even notice, that is clearly meant to break up the color but since it's not even a real belt it ends up in this weird position of simultaneously being almost nonexistent but also standing out immensely due to how odd of a choice it is.

>>94584024 looks fine to me

>>94584228
>>94584255
All the JL cartoons had hot women.
Hawkgirl grunting made my peepee tingle.

>>94584358
>I don't see why he needs trunks if he has a brightly colored belt.
Too much blue. The belt looks odd without the trunks because it has nothing to sustain.

Trunks break the blue much more nicely than the belt alone would

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My second favourite supersuit.

>>94584457

Would you say Justice League Action Superman has too much blue? I wouldn't

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>>94584499
Superman needs to have a simple look because he is THE superhero, what every hero after came from and is inspired by. To cover him in armour(?) and lines lines lines is worse than the pouches in the '90s and misses the whole fucking point of the character. Making him dark is also retarded unless it's contextual and not for an extended period.

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>>94584527
Actually, I'd say he has too much blue AND red

Mostly due to how large the cape is. Either way, there's not enough yellow, to be honest

There has to be a better ratio between the yellows, and the blues and the reds.

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>>94583489
SUPES SAYS TAKE OFF THEM TRUNKS!

>>94584553
No THE Superhero needs to look powerful, dignified & epic not like a dollar store costume cosplay.
No one is asking for fucking armor, the new 52 suit wasn't armor it was meant to look like a plated leather like material. Anything but thin fucking cloth

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>>94584586
the trunks are inspired by turn-of-the-century strongmen, you fucking fairy.

>>94584631
Sorry that was meant for the AOS thread.

>>94584629
You should work in a Warner Bros. boardroom, chum. Your ideas are sterile enough.

>>94584587

So you want him to have yellow trunks? JLA Superman already has a lot of yellow for a Superman design. Adding red trunks would increase the red:yellow ratio even more.

>>94584660
> Sterile ideas
What does that mean?
It's not a stale idea to adapt something to a different fucking setting that the original version does not fit in and would destroy any immersion or tension within the product in.

>>94584228
Did you just paint the trunks black?

>>94584587
Yellow is the tertiary colour, only meant for highlights. It's like saying Spider-Man needs more black.

>>94584700
Superman's look is iconic. Are you kidding me? This no-trunks shit will not last through the next decade.

>>94584700
Yes, I forgot Superman was SUPER SERIAL YOU GUYS.

No wonder Marvel is wiping the floor with DC.

>>94584718
The s & the colors are iconic, the trunks is a fucking tumor that has destroyed the character's popularity and dignity.

>>94584692
Yellow Trunks?

No. I mean like a more yellow belt. Like Superman: The Animated Series' Belt, or Christopher Reeve's belt. Where it's all yellow with only a little red in the pants/trunks straps

JL:Action's belt has a huge Red blot that ruins the belt

>>94584737
>SUPER SERIAL
What does this mean? Seriously. Did you mean to stay super sterile?

>>94584763
Wow, imagine having this shitty taste. Looking froward to 12th grade next year, kiddo?

>>94584782
Underage fucking detected

>>94584763
>the trunks is a fucking tumor that has destroyed the character's popularity and dignity.
Superman was created with the trunks, and was at his most popular he ever was with the trunks during the Bronze and Silver Age

>tfw this guy doesn't know what he's talking about cuz he hates the trunks

>>94584787
I am 26.
How is it immature to not approve of a inherently immature aspect of a character being put in a mature adaption of the character?

>>94584828
>and was at his most popular he ever was with the trunks during the Bronze and Silver Age
Back when only small children read it.

>>94584718
>This no-trunks shit will not last through the next decade.
It didn't even last during. There were multiple comics that added the Trunks while the main comics were chancing the New 52 suit ever two years or so

>>94584844
"Mature" adaptations are usually a mistake unless handled in context like Frank Miller's Batman.

This is casualized garbage targeted towards dudebros who think "trunks are gay dude". Y'know, people like you.

>>94584228
>>94584255
>>94584277
OMG Superman TAS and any Superman work before 2011 is literally unwatchable/readable becasue he's wearing trunks and they're sooooooooo old fashioned said no one fucking ever

>>94584809
Yes I am totally fucking underage because I have no idea what those random fucking words mean in this context.

>>94584890
Leave.

>>94584871
Changing*

>>94584358
Because even with a belt it still looks like he's wearing a onesie.

>>94584778

Alright, I don't see what that has to do with him having trunks or not

>>94584910

As opposed to a onesie with panties over it?

>>94584211
Actually anon, i was once shitposting about the same thing and the kinofag actually posted screeencaps from fucking BvS in wich Superman smiles while rescuing the mexican girl for like half a second, right before, you know, having the "I want to fucking killmself right now" look right after. Hardcore DCEU fanboys are sonic fanbase levels of autistic.

>>94584948
But the trunks hide the fact that it's really a onesie.

>>94584876
And it was handled in context, the Dceu was meant to be set in a more serious realistic world, just like TDKR & Earth One.
>>94584876
>This is casualized garbage
No that would be pandering to people who just want "fun" silly crap.
>targeted towards dudebros who think "trunks are gay dude". Y'know, people like you.
No I am fine with the trunks by certain artist, just not in a sc-fi heavy live action adaption that is suppose to be intense and powerful.

>>94584951
>superman likes rescuing people but hates being worshipped like a god.
wow, what an autist.

>>94584948
The levels of taste in this thread are staggeringly bad.

>>94584907
Yes, he made a mistake, just like you adding a capital letter to a word that was in the middle of his sentence.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/08/11/superman-underpants-action-comics/

It's happening. Deal with it anti-trunk hipster faggots.

>>94584869
>being this wrong
>thinking kids reading comics is a bad thing
Do your parents know you are here?

>>94584977
All the DCEU has done is provide a bunch of half-baked ideas from suits who have never read a comic in their lives.

>>94584983
>superman likes rescuing people
Not in the DCEU he doesn't. inb4 that fucking one zoomed in, brightened freeze frame where he MIGHT be almost smiling.

>>94584901
So your a coward who won't explain the point your making so the debate can be fair and honest.
Fuck you subhuman trash.

>>94584972

how? Unless you think the leg parts are really separate leggings or something, I don't see it

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>>94584099

>>94585004
See, I will trust their grittier and more grimdark presentation of superman than yours.

>>94585004
They actually managed to make Batman unpopular. Hilariously bad.

>>94585038
Because you're an idiot with shit taste.

I bet you've never even read TDKR, if you want grittiness handled, well, that is.

In fact, please list some of your favourite comics, right now. I'm sure we all could do with a laugh or two.

>>94585019
>if you aren't smiling it means you don't like it.
He goes around rescuing people whenever he can, often unilaterally and without consulting anyone just because he can.
He likes rescuing people.

>>94584999
>>thinking kids reading comics is a bad thing
It is absolutely not, but there should be plenty of serious comics also and Superman should sometimes be among them.

>>94584992
That was actually me correcting myself

Anon forums are a bitch, right?
>>94584927
It's about color, actually

Trunks argument helps

>>94585023
It's one of the most well-known quotes from South Park ever, dumbass.

>>94585076
That should not be unclear in a Superman movie. Hundreds of people (or hundreds of thousands, rather) should not be dying in a fucking Superman movie.

>>94585076
While looking like he'd rather be anywhere else and never interacting with anyone. Oh yeah, the clear love of what he was doing was just fucking pouring off him.

>>94585100
Oops. My bad.

>>94585067
>I bet you never read TDKR.
Superman hears batman's heartbeat a split second before he is about to leave the funeral, and then smiles at femRobin.
Batman has a tank filled with rubber bullets to bully the mutants.
One guy shoots up a porno theater where people were watching a nun themed porno because he listens to Stairway to heaven backwards for 42 minutes until he finds a satanic message.

Gordon's replacement is someone I want to have sex with.

I like the spiderman crossovers in his comics, and am especially fond of the one where he and daredevil go to a circus show and everyone gets hypnotized. Spidey and matt never learn each other's identity.

>>94585102
>Hundreds of people (or hundreds of thousands, rather) should not be dying in a fucking Superman movie.
But anon, it makes him edgy like Batman!!!

>>94585076
>he can
no he doesn't. He rescues people because the story board literally says "superman rescues these people", it doesn't feel genuine,

>>94585159
What about this Superman appeals to you?

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>>94585067
No him but someone who does like Dceu Superman a great deal.
My favorites...
And before you rant about "edgy" no dreck like Ultimatum or Nemesis is fucking edgy, everything in pic related is just standard serious fare.

>>94585163
Its all unintentionally Nolans fault. DC just made everything dark like arrow and mos.

>>94585102
Because superman can't be everywhere all the time. This isn't the MCU where they form a perimeter and evacuate new york. Every time he fucks up, people die. He never forgets that he could have saved them. Which is why he tries stopping batman because batman is sentencing people to death by branding them.

>>94583489
Thank fucking God. The outside underwear was shit and one of the main reasons why I never got Into superman that and him being an unbeatable Mary sue

>>94585102
>Hundreds of people (or hundreds of thousands, rather) should not be dying in a fucking Superman movie.
"I should get to pick and choose what characters have stories devoid of consequences and weight"

>>94585229
yet he waits for batman to kill everyone to finally confront him

>>94585186
That he doesn't have all the answers, but he tries anyway. This is what superman is about for me. It isn't his powers that make him. It is his power AND his never give up attitude that make him superman.

When superman destroys the world engine even when it was weakening him, He was superman. When Superman impaled himself upon doomsday's portrusions while being weakened by kryptonite to finish Doomsday off permanently instead of cutting and running, he was being Superman.

His smile is a tertiary characteristic at best which would feel out of place in a DCEU movie since the universe is pretty dark.

I appreciate them doing something different but it just feels pretty generic.

>>94585208
Reminds me of all the writers in the 90s trying to copy the likes of Miller and failing miserably. They take all the style (ape it badly, usually) and none of the substance. The substance flew over their heads to begin with.

>>94585229
I really don't think the story needs to be this gritty, though. It's handled with so little humanity and I don't feel like I care about any of the characters when I'm watching. The film is dark and washed-out visually, as well. Superman's even missing his curl. It's frankly depressing and lacks any sort of joy or wonder that comics (and in particular Superman) are supposed to bring.

>>94585244
I have no problem with the idea that Superman can't save everyone, but it seemed more like he couldn't save ANYONE in these last two films.

Batman is also supposed to be levelheaded, even if he is crazy. Now he's being portrayed as literally psychotic and off the rails, and worst of all, no one seems to think there's anything wrong with that. He's like an even more fascistic version of the Punisher and it doesn't work in the character's favour and in fact makes him a lot less interesting. Where's the detective work?

>>94585254
He saves KGBeast and the truck.

>>94585186
Not him but Dceu Superman?
> Incredibly sympathetic.
> Is not blindly naive, understands & is ready for the bad parts of the world but still hopes for the best.
> Visibly troubled by concerns about his actions however good that they may cause more harm in the long term.
> Can't just mary sue his way through every obstacle without negative side effects.
> Has tangible flaws (indecisiveness, prone to small burst of spiteful anger) but still genuinely wants to help others.

>>94585300
I really just feel like these movies have been mishandled on a foundational level. The very root of these movies are dark and gritty, but lacking in the substance and humanity necessary to justify it. It all feels like an exercise in nihilism. I much prefer Reeve's Superman and think that is a perfectly understood, non-perverted film version of the character.

>>94585300
>where's the detective work
Him piecing together the metahuman story, infiltrating the boxing match and lex's party were examples of him actually using his noggin'.
You don't need sherlock holmes levels of bullshittery to solve every mystery if you have the tech to do it.

>>94585297
To me, the fact that his natural charisma and good-natured personality need to be cut out to fit in a DCEU Universe is proof enough that he doesn't work as a Superman.

Unlike what haters think, Superman has a personality. And if his personality is cut out to fit the tone of his struggle, then I find him boring as a result

Not him, btw

>>94585297
>When superman destroys the world engine even when it was weakening him, He was superman. When Superman impaled himself upon doomsday's portrusions while being weakened by kryptonite to finish Doomsday off permanently instead of cutting and running, he was being Superman.
Also when he took a nuke to the face without a hint of hesitation. God I love that moment.

>>94585345
If there's any case where a Mary-Sue would be justified, it's in the case of Superman.

>>94585297
>>94585345
Did we watch the same movie? What the hell. Can you post some videos?

>>94585123
Nah, it's not your fault

>>94585300
>but it seemed more like he couldn't save ANYONE in these last two films.
Like 8 billion people at least 3 times.

>>94585397
I'll sum it all up in one sentence: Superman is meant to be lighthearted, these films are not.

>>94585397

How many times would he need to save the world before he catches up with movie Star-Lord?

>>94585381
I really loved the way they handled his dessication and regeneration. You can see the broken skeletal outline, and then see it turn into cavill's face.

>>94585374
But he is good natured in the movie. He goes out of his way to tell the story of the little guy who got branded by the bat and got murdered in prison.
His arguments with perry about what the press needs to be doing instead of writing sports fluff pieces show that his heart is in the right place.

Snyder really has a problem with charisma so you will find no argument from me, but I personally thought Clark learning to fly was a very nice moment for superman.

>>94585297
>When superman destroys the world engine even when it was weakening him, He was superman.
>When Superman impaled himself upon doomsday's portrusions while being weakened by kryptonite to finish Doomsday off permanently instead of cutting and running, he was being Superman.
So you like him because he's a selfless hero?

Good because that's literally every other Superman.

Difference is, the others have a personality

>>94585369
>It all feels like an exercise in nihilism
No, if that was the case, then Clark would have to be pushed to do good things like in Earth One. In Mos he is outright enthesastic about helping people with the Bus and during the argument he had with Pa in the truck before the tornado, it's about him being held back because he is a decent human being and is worried more harm will happen then good he can hope to accomplish.

>>94585438
There's another light-hearted example of what I wouldn't want in a Superman film.

>>94585374
>To me, the fact that his natural charisma and good-natured personality need to be cut out
But it wasn't cut out, it was just suppressed because of the different context of his upbringing in a much darker more paranoid x-men-ish world.
He absolutely still has it he only shows it to those he gets close to.

>>94585389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdThNznR8do

Here's the world engine scene. He is constantly being weakened by the atmosphere and being cut off by the sun and the pulse is hitting him when he flies upwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xjiPMsSgw
He drives the spear inwards instead of running away and regenerating.
>>94585425
An entire cinematic universe worth of movies

>>94585445
See >>94585438
He has a personality.

>>94585438
>But he is good natured in the movie.
I'm sorry, I mean his good-natured personality. Not just his good nature.

By that I mean like his humble sense of humor. Think Chris Evans when he's complimenting his co-workers. He never brings them down with a sarcastic joke. He's always pointing out how talented they are and such.

I don't blame Henry as much as I blame the writers for not giving him enough lines of dialogue. I feel like I'd like Henry's character more if he expressed how he felt more.

>>94585229
>Which is why he tries stopping batman
By letting him go with a stern/edgy warning after literally witnessing him kill a bunch of people? That's muh Superman.

>>94584629
Thin cloth makes him seem like he doesn't need protection, which makes him feel even more powerful.

>>94585523
That's not "personally" as much as it is Clark being an ethical person.

Again, that's him being a self-less hero

DC had an opportunity to make a true-to-the-characters type of universe without all the annoying, overly-ironic meta shit that Marvel/Disney produces. Instead they went way too far the other direction and take themselves waaaay too seriously. It's unwarranted.

>>94585488
Not really. He barely talks to them. Showing his love for them isn't the same thing.

>>94585588
Essentially I'm asking for a live action version of the Timm & Dini-verse.

>>94585544
What would he have done? handed him to gotham PD who would let Batman off immediately because the police are his supporters? Superman bullied him and considered the matter settled.

>>94585538
I think that they focused a little too much on worldbuilding at the expense of Superman building. But the hints are actually there if you look close enough. Just like with ARGUS agent Olsen

>>94585538
>humble sense of humour.
I could refer you to the birth of doomsday where superman does something humorous that is true to his good middle american upbringing.
Luthor tells him that he doesn't know how to lose. Superman tells him, that he will.
>>94585571
So I guess dying to kill doomsday and nearly losing his powers to destroy the world engine aren't the mark of a selfless hero?

>>94585297
>That he doesn't have all the answers, but he tries anyway.
>It isn't his powers that make him. It is his power AND his never give up attitude that make him superman.
But normal non-emo, non-mopey main DCU Supes (and hell, 99% of all Superman versions) is like that as well, except instead of wallowing in self pity and complaining he/they actually enjoy helping who he can and actually interacting with people.

>his never give up attitude that make him superman.
>Superman was never real.
Pick one.

>>94585652
I think you guys arguing plot points are missing the bigger picture of why the films don't work.

>>94585345
>prone to small burst of spiteful anger
Is that what you're calling recklessly killing a bunch of people who were just getting gas now?

>>94585653
>>his never give up attitude that make him superman.
>>Superman was never real.
>Pick one.
What the fuck is wrong with you people, the character is fucking allowed to have low points of despair and then prove those moments wrong later on.

>>94585710
Sure he is, but not at the expense of thousands of people. Otherwise the focus shifts to them rather than Superman, as it should.

>>94585675
No I was referring to smashing the truckers truck.
Tackling Zod in a blind rage was perfectly fucking ok and him slamming into the 711 was 100% a accident as he was looking down the entire flight at Zod's face.

>>94585652
>So I guess dying to kill doomsday and nearly losing his powers to destroy the world engine aren't the mark of a selfless hero?
Where did you get that? I literally described him as selfless.

>But the hints are actually there if you look close enough.
I think it's more you misinterpreting what constitutes that
>Luthor tells him that he doesn't know how to lose. Superman tells him, that he will.
That's not some humble joke. That was him being completely serious. I'm not sure we saw the same movie at this point.

>>94585733
>Sure he is, but not at the expense of thousands of people
Sure but nd him going off to the mountain briefly did not cause any deaths that I can think of.

>>94585735
Superman doesn't make those kinds of mistakes. Superman is your ideal father, not your whiney big brother. Anakin Skywalker is almost more sympathetic at this point.

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I'm hoping the trunks will come back properly, but I'm glad they're at least still canon

>>94585652
>What would he have done? handed him to gotham PD
Yes.
>who would let Batman off immediately because the police are his supporters?
Bullshit. Gordon and his supporters would not be ok with him killing. Hell, Gordon would be out hunting him himself if he actually ever did that. Plus the police can't just fucking let whoever they want go, especially not a known murderer who brands people.

and even if they did just let him go that shouldn't have stopped Superman from doing the right thing by stopping him and handing him over to the authorities.

>So I guess dying to kill doomsday and nearly losing his powers to destroy the world engine aren't the mark of a selfless hero?
He only did those for his mother and "his world" Lois. He doesn't give a shit about anyone else cos they were mean to him.

>>94585653
>wallowing in self pity.
He sees that his actions in trying to save lois lane have killed other people. It is supposed to be an ethical dilemma for him. He can't just spin the world the opposite way and make everything better.
>actually helping who he can
The beginning of clark's adventure shows him helping people - in the oil rig. When he saved people from drowning when he was a kid.
>actually interacting with people
He comes to the senate willingly to put himself on trial for crimes he did not commit. He interacts with people just fine.

>>94585710
Nobody says it shouldn't happen

It's more the fact that the movie contradicts his claim of having a never-give-up attitude

>>94585755
As much as seeing the whole city get destroyed looked cool on the big screen, it had no place in a Superman movie, especially not the VERY FIRST FILM.

Save something like that for later, after we've already seen him helping people, being happy and friendly, getting the public's support and, you know, generally BEING SUPERMAN. A level of destruction that big would come off as a shock, then and actually achieve what the producers were hoping for that way.

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>>94584559
THICC

>>94585735
>No I was referring to smashing the truckers truck.
So I guess the cunt harrassing a waitress is all well and good huh?

>>94585735
>him slamming into the 711 was 100% a accident as he was looking down the entire flight at Zod's face.
Oh well my mistake. I'm sure the families of those killed are super grateful to him. Maybe they built a statue of him killing their family members as a memorial to him? Did he also make out on their ashes as well?

That's muh Superman. Always killing innocent people in reckless bursts of rage.

>>94585769
Is this a fan edit? Because hhhhhhnnnnnngggggg it looks so good. How the fuck can anyone look at this and not say the trunks are better?

>>94585771
The police literally let him do his thing all over gotham. The cop that shoots him even says that the only reason he shot batman was because he had never seen him before.
>gordon wouldn't allow it
and yet gordon keeps the bat signal working perfectly when it's necessary.
>for his mother and lois
Yeah, the entire, this is my world part of the sentence didn't mean anything.

>>94585760
>Superman doesn't make those kinds of mistakes
Not in mary sue land where he can do anything and reality warps to give us happy perfect resolutions.
THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of this adaption was to be more realistic and have weight and consequences, what fucking part of this can you not wrap you mind around, your judging it on a criteria it never ever intended to meet.

>Anakin Skywalker is almost more sympathetic at this point.
Yes mass murdering children 100% on purpose is more sympathetic then someone who POSSIBLY injured or killed some bystanders by accident while saving his mom's life.
TOTALLY!

>>94585777
>He comes to the senate willingly to put himself on trial for crimes he did not commit. He interacts with people just fine.
he only has 43 lines in the entire movie. He barely talks to anybody and when he does it's usually less than two sentences.

He interacts with people less than Tom Holland in Civil War, and The entire movie was ABOUT Superman's presence

>>94585788
he never gives up though. He never hangs his cape up - always appearing whenever lois is in danger.

>>94585769
Looks sooooo gooood

>>94585863
He literally gave up that one time tho

The only reason he came back was because he convinced himself that he shouldn't blame himself via hallucination

>>94585777
>He can't just spin the world the opposite way and make everything better.
Which he confronts not by talking to people and show them that there's nothing to be afraid of but by wallowing in self pity before giving up and running away to a mountain, only to return after ghost dad points out that the woman he loves is all that matters.
>He comes to the senate willingly to put himself on trial for crimes he did not commit
Where he just stands and once again feels sorry for himself as people burn to death all around him. As opposed to you know, immediately getting on with the job of helping who he can.
>He interacts with people just fine.
He literally doesn't say a fucking word to anyone in all of BvS as Superman that isn't a main character.

>>94585854
Superman should cast a long shadow on the world in a more down to earth movie. Superman is essentially a godlike being of immense power who goes around saving the world HIS way. It is his actions that are supposed to be inspiring to people even as they try and twist it by injecting politics into everything which is what the discourse of the real world is.

Superman is trying to do the right thing and people take it as some kind of statement.

>>94585846
>and yet gordon keeps the bat signal working perfectly when it's necessary.
Because the DCEU is a fucking travesty that misinterprets literally every character.

A real Commissioner Gorden would not allow Batman to kill.

>>94585792
>As much as seeing the whole city get destroyed looked cool on the big screen, it had no place in a Superman movie, especially not the VERY FIRST FILM.
I disagree, but regardless the destruction has nothing to do with Clark being dour or not.

>>94585847
>Yes mass murdering children 100% on purpose is more sympathetic then someone who POSSIBLY injured or killed some bystanders by accident while saving his mom's life.
Atleast Anakin cares when he kills people

When did Clark express his regret at the death of the people that died from collateral damage in Metropolis

Not ONE piece of dialogue about it

>>94585900
>all that matters.
except the other part where he says that people will always be in danger but he shouldn't stop helping them. That was what the entire farm story was all about. Superman might not be able to save everyone, but he is damn well gonna try.
>he feels sorry for those around him
Did you not see the part where he is rescuing people from inside the senate?
>interactions have to be verbal.
The very fact that he was there to subject himself to the committe on Superman shows that he was ready to interact with regular people.

>>94585847
>have weight and consequences
What consequences did he face for killing the people at the 7-11?
>POSSIBLY injured or killed some bystanders
Yeah, I'm sure the people that were engulfed in that firey explosion are juuuuuuust fine.
>by accident while saving his mom's life.
Oh well it was an accident? Why didn't you say so? I'm sure the families are actually really glad to hear that.

>>94585924
A real commisoner gordon would let batman rape the loker.

>>94585847
It's a terrible film that is literally the furthest it could have been from Superman short of making him a rapist and you have bad taste and should feel bad for liking literal corporate slop put in front of you.

>>94585968
>what consequences
the consequences of his conscience.
Superman is hated as much as he is loved in the aftermath of zod's invasion.

>>94586003
Yeah, because he is a hair away from being a villain and SHOULD feel guilty. I don't like him.

>>94585919
He didn't strike me as godlike, he struck me as an irresponsible, repressed boy.

>>94586002
So how would you make superman work in a more realistic world where superheroes rampaging around have actual consequences that aren't handwaved by perimeters.

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>>94585797
Are you defending the trucker or not?
Regardless if the trucker deserved it or not it was still a act of spite on Clark's part.

>>94585812
>I'm sure the families of those killed are super grateful to him
Yes I am pretty fucking sure they will be grateful to him for saving the entire human race from CEASING TO FUCKING EXIST regardless of accidental deaths.

>Did he also make out on their ashes as well?
Him and Lois embraced INSTANTLY after touching down after nearly being torn apart atom by atom in a black hole, there was no fucking time to take in their surroundings, they were in fucking shock and needed comfort and stability after such a traumatic event. We saw the atoms peeling off Clark's face for fuck's sake see the shimmering on his face in pic related.

>>94586036
He has godlike powers. He is godlike in capacity with the demeanour of a farmer's son from kansas.

>>94585957
>Superman might not be able to save everyone, but he is damn well gonna try.
He just won't enjoy doing, interact with anyone and may be prone to occasional outburst that get innocent civilians killed. But apart from that he'll never stop*

*May stop and run away again if people are mean to him

>Did you not see the part where he is rescuing people from inside the senate?
Sure, after he had a good cry. Imagine how many more people he could've saved if he'd actually immediately sprung into action.

Instead of having the explosion go off then having him cry for god knows how long if Snyder had half a brain he would've had him immediately begin saving people, then once he'd done all he could he could've broken down at his apartment.

>The very fact that he was there to subject himself to the committe on Superman shows that he was ready to interact with regular people.
>by not actually interacting with people it shows that he actually liked interacting with people
Snyder is just 2deep4me

>>94586037
>superman work in a more realistic world where superheroes rampaging around have actual consequences that aren't handwaved by perimeters.
First thing I'd do is make him act like Superman

Also, not him

>>94586045
the trucker was an edgy cunt. While superman might have been a bit harsh on him the wanker had it coming.
>>94586024
>saving the world makes you a villain.

>>94586003
>the consequences of his conscience.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So if the Joker or Lex feel bad Superman will let them go?

>>94586037
I would make him actually godlike and somehow manage to best the odds that are against him every time. If things ever did slip through his fingers he'd be devastated and immediately try and help and fix things to the best of his ability without a second thought about himself.

I'd also give him the red trunks.

>>94585919
You can do all that and still give him a few fucking lines to express himself more

There IS such a thing as a middle ground, believe it or not

>>94586064
>immediately sprung into action.
and do what? Do a quicksilver montage while some 80s music played in the background and he rescued everyone in the span of a single song?

>>94586068
Like what? Save everyone all the fucking time? walk into the UN and talk to the secretary general?
Spin the world backwards because his waifu got killed in a freak earthquake?

>>94586024
> Existing in a setting were doing everything perfectly is inherently impossible like the real fucking world makes you a villain...
Fuck yourself.

>>94586107
I already mentioned that snyder has problems with dialog.
>>94586085
Do lex and joker have superpowers and are indestructible? He would put their ass in prison.

>>94586088
>>94586131

What makes Superman interesting is his inhuman lack of flaws and ability to act like a fucking hero. It's the opposite for Batman, but that's secondary. Reeve got this.

>>94586088
You mean just like he did in the movie where he was actually rescuing people from the bomb site?

>>94586052
Just cuz he floats around in a cross position doesn't make him "godlike"

People keep throwing that term around like a lunatic, it doesn't mean what they think it means

>>94586149
And everything was grey and dark and even more depressing than a Tarkovsky movie? Sorry, I tried to block it out of my memory, I don't really recall.

>>94586146
>inhuman lack of flaws.
He is a boyscout. They aren't inhumanly pure.
>saving the world twice and dying in the process is not heroic.

>>94586045
>Yes I am pretty fucking sure they will be grateful to him for saving the entire human race from CEASING TO FUCKING EXIST regardless of accidental deaths.
So becasue he saved the world everything is forgiven? The families of those he killed just suddenly become grateful to him? They didn't die due to him saving the world. They died when he angrily and recklessly threw Zod into them becasue he was threatening his mommy.

Using your argument if Zod had killed MARTHA!!! right there on the farm and then gone on to save the world Superman should actually be grateful to him.

>Him and Lois embraced INSTANTLY after touching down after nearly being torn apart atom by atom in a black hole, there was no fucking time to take in their surroundings
Except you forget that he's fucking SUPERMAN. You know, with super vision and hearing, through which he could hear the people screaming all around them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAX-y018pcY

>>94586151
>being indestructible and able to take a nuke to the face doesn't make you a godlike being.

>>94586170
He's an alien and literally earth's saviour, he sure doesn't act like it in these movies, though.

>>94586166
>I don't actually remember the movie but let me tell you why it wasn't muh supes.

>>94586064
>and may be prone to occasional outburst that get innocent civilians killed
It wasn't occasional. It was a specific dire situation with his mother being threatened. If that would not throw you into a blind rage your a fucking sociopath.

>>94586064
>Imagine how many more people he could've saved if he'd actually immediately sprung into action.
>Instead of having the explosion go off then having him cry for god knows how long
It was only for a few fucking seconds the shot of him semi crying was in slow mo.

>>94586072
>the trucker was an edgy cunt. While superman might have been a bit harsh on him the wanker had it coming.
Agreed.

>>94586119
>Like what?
Not act like a bitch and have a personality. Not have the same expression for most of the damn movie. Actually talk like a normal human being instead of frown all the time.

>>94586193
If it was I would've remembered it :')

>>94586119
>and do what?
I don't know, maybe use his super speed, strength, sight, hearing, invulnerability and breath to help save more people. Seconds are precious in situations like that, people were literally burning to death around him but he decided to take the time to have a good cry becasue why does this shit keep happening to poor old him.

>>94586180
You had a character like wally shown in the movie. You had the protestors during the senate meeting. Superman acts recklessly and is hated for it just like he is liked for saving humans.

>>94586188
>he saves the world twice in 2 movies
>he doesn't act like it though.

>>94586182
>only survived a nuke due to powersource

>gets stabbed and dies

>fails to save people all the time

>never asks people to sacrifice virgins and their children
Not godlike at all, kek

>>94586135
>Do lex and joker have superpowers and are indestructible?
So you're allowed to kill people so long as you a) feel real bad about it afterwords and b) have super powers?

>>94583598
Action #1000 is going to make so much money.
I wonder how well action #500 sold

>>94586204
Superman is not the average person. Making him act like one misses the whole point.

>>94586225
He couldn't stop the bomb going off because he couldn't detect it. After it explodes there is very little he can do to stop the explosion.
Of course he could try spinning. That's a good trick. Maybe if he spun hard enough he could go back in time and sit on the chair and absorb the blast into his asscheeks.

>>94586135
>I already mentioned that snyder has problems with dialog.
You are perfectly fine with it tho. So I'd like it to be made abundantly clear that this isn't a good thing

>>94586269
Would've been more entertaining (and true to the character, to boot) than the entirety of BvS and MoS combined.

>>94586251
>but he isn't technically a god because he doesn't have a religious cult around him and he is from a different planet
hence the like.
Also.
>god
>drowns the world
>saving people.

>>94586234
Hundreds of thousands of people die. It doesn't "feel" like a Superman movie should at all.

>>94586284
I never said the movies were perfect. Snyder needs someone to reign him in.

>>94586269
>Maybe if he spun hard enough he could go back in time and sit on the chair and absorb the blast into his asscheeks.
No joke, that be more entertaining than the senitor drinking Lex Luthor's piss

More entertaining than this entire fucking movie, if I'm being honest

>>94586180
>recklessly
No being reckless or negligent, requires you to consider your actions and choose to ignore the consequences of them anyway.
He did not know what direction he was going he was looking STRAIGHT DOWN. Therefor the notion that his tackling Zod could have harmful results never entered his mind considering how fast it all happened.

>You know, with super vision and hearing, through which he could hear the people screaming all around them
And they spelled out in both films that he has his extended hearing turned off unless he is specifically searching for something, such is the only way to live day by day.

>>94586328
Like I said, Superman does not make basic mistakes like this. It's okay for him to mess up a few times, but it was handled poorly in both films.

>>94586285
>true to the character
yeah, because in a realistic world a superpowered being spins round and round and makes time go backward. It's almost as stupid as nuking a fault to make more real estate.

>>94586305
>Not getting the fucking joke
Holy shit, this autism.

>>94586204
>It wasn't occasional. It was a specific dire situation with his mother being threatened.
Oh well why didn't you say so. Everyone gets one after all.
>If that would not throw you into a blind rage your a fucking sociopath.
I'm not Superman. Superman doesn't angrily and recklessly directly kill people with his own hands becasue he gets a bit angry. That's literally the entire fucking point of his character.
>You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards.
Every little kid now strives to recklessly kill people. Muh Superman.

>>94586346
Yeah, you have terrible taste. Have I mentioned that?

>>94586321
I think you mean Snyder needs to reign Goyer and Terrio in

>>94586234
>Superman acts recklessly and is hated for it just like he is liked for saving humans.
Well then all is forgiven.

>>94586345
The entire point of the first movie is that superman is growing as a character. He has never been trained to fight and he is going against someone with equal power to him who has been raised to be a warrior.
If you say that superman should check his yaw and pitch when he is fighting for his life you are nitpicking to an extreme level. The entire premise of the movie is that superheroes aren't rosy comfortable stories that fix the problem with the power of writer's fiat. Their actions have consequences, and superman's actions in MoS are shown to have consequences in BvS

>>94586263
That is your opinion and plenty of people agree with you but there are countless others who feel he needs to be humanized & relatable.
Your got your perfect Mary Sue for 5 movies, now it's our turn, fairness and balance.

>>94586396
I am sorry he didn't land next to president obama and give a warm and comforting story about how you just gotta do the best thing every time and make you feel better about yourself.

>>94586396
The fact that MoS threads always come down to moral debates about the character tells you exactly what is wrong with the movies.

>>94586269
>He couldn't stop the bomb going off because he couldn't detect it. After it explodes there is very little he can do to stop the explosion.
I'm not talking about any of that. I'm talking about him not immediately starting to help people using his fucking super powers but instead just standing there feeling sorry foe himself before finally actually starting to help the people caught up in it.

>>94586408
I'm saying that's a nihilistic viewpoint especially when used on Superman, and not exceptionally fun to watch.

>>94586346
>yeah, because in a realistic world a superpowered being spins round and round and makes time go backward. It's almost as stupid as nuking a fault to make more real estate.
A realistic world wouldn't have an orc being born from a human cloning a dead alien with his blood, then growing horns and tanking nukes.

Don't talk about realism and then continue to prop up a movie that has a giant mutant hybrid alien fighting a Demi-goddess with a magic sheild, you hypocrite

>>94586371
Superman's character works perfectly in a comic book world.
If you try and bring the comic book character right into a real world there will be clashes. There is no magic button to reset fuck ups in MoS and BvS
I like the Reeve superman movies for what they are, and I like the Cavill movies for what they are. They take place in fundamentally different worlds.

>>94586418
I'm eager to see how it turns out.

>>94586429
Again, still would have been better than anything in either of the films.

>>94586451
>nihilistic viewpoint
yes.
>not fun to watch
The action was top notch in my opinion.

>>94584951
Don't insult Sonic fans like that.

>>94586433
Or what is wrong with the fans who continue to refuse to fairly judge the films based on what they were trying to do instead of demonizing them not meeting a criteria the films set out specifically to avoid.

>>94586460
>muh everything needs to be camp.

>>94586472
>still would have been better
That's your opinion, and I disagree with it.

>>94586493
As a movie alone the plot is bad, the characters are bad, and it kind of leaves you with an overwhelmed "yuck" sort of feeling when you're done.

>>94586418
>Your got your perfect Mary Sue for 5 movies, now it's our turn, fairness and balance.
I'd rather have a "perfect Mary Sue"than a boring plank of wood that can't even have any good lines in his own damn movie

>>94586451
>I'm saying that's a nihilistic viewpoint especially when used on Superman
A flawed person overcoming his own flaws and the flaws of the world around him and accomplishing good is inherently more inspiring the someone who accomplishes good with little to no adversity whatsoever. And is the exact opposite of nihilistic.

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>>94586485
t. eggman

>>94586530
He doesn't leave the world a better place, though. He saves people from big threats, yeah, but the city is still destroyed at the end of it. It's not Superman's fault, but it still gives the feeling that the world was better off before he came along.

>>94586524
>muh quips.
Perfect mary sues are boring to watch. In a world that is increasingly becoming aware that actions have consequences someone like superman stands out garishly.

>>94586460
Of course the sci-fi elements themselves aren't realistic, its about the world around them and how seriously and believably they are handled.

>>94584763
It's funny that you think you have any room to talk about dignity when you're embarrassing yourself so hard.

>>94586503
>>muh everything needs to be camp.
>Tfw you realize you are a hypocrite so you resort to strawmanning an argument that was never brought up
Must be dark for you down there

>>94586563
So not believably at all.

>>94586328
>He did not know what direction he was going he was looking STRAIGHT DOWN. Therefor the notion that his tackling Zod could have harmful results never entered his mind considering how fast it all happened.
You do understand that he's fucking SUPERMAN don't you? Meaning he has super powers like super hearing and vision. Superman doesn't accidentally. Not to mention it's the town he's lived in his entire life. Are you really trying to say that Superman didn't know what direction he was flying Zod at?

>he has his extended hearing turned off unless he is specifically searching for something
You mean like survivors and a city being destroyed? Oops, gotta turn off my super hearing so I can have a good make out session with the Mrs.
>such is the only way to live day by day.
No, such is Snyder's cynical, dark, depressing, mopey Superman. Johns wrote an issue where someone posed that exact question to him.
from memory it was something like this
>"How do you deal with it?"
>"How do you deal with the constant horrors you must hear?"
>"Is that what you think the world is like?"
>"99.9% of that I hear is amazing"
>"I hear fathers coming home from work"
>"I hear mother's tucking their children in at night"
>"The world is so full of so much love that I'm just sad the rest of you can't hear it"
Only Snyder's shit Superman has to turn off his hearing. Thank God based Johns is here to save Superman now.

>>94586552
>but the city is still destroyed at the end of it
No only like a 7th of it was destroyed.

>>94586503
I think the Doomsday is pretty campy, desu. Shame the producers were too retarded to see that.

>>94586560
Superman saying something, anything doesn't count as a quip.

Reeve rescued cats out of trees. Henry Cavill does nothing even close to that in any of the films, and yet we're supposed to care about him on a human level? Fuck that.

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>>94586570
So just because krypton has magic tech that can make giant orc human mutants and wonder woman is a demigoddess means that superman should be saving people all the fucking time and turning back the clock so that the world never has to live with the consequences?

>>94585345
>> Incredibly sympathetic.
- You can't spell sympathetic without pathetic.
- Sympathy doesn't mix with aspiration.
- Citation needed

Pick your response.

>>94586560
>Perfect mary sues are boring to watch. In a world that is increasingly becoming aware that actions have consequences someone like superman stands out garishly.
Which would still make it much more interesting because there is an actual contrast being made

Optimistic hero vs Pessemistic modern world makes for a better story than a pessimist vs a pessimist

>>94586620
That would be nice, yeah. It's already been done, but it's a nice idea.

>>94586616
>Care about him on a human level
Yeah, the guy rescuing astronauts from dying a fiery death is a fucking grade a cunt.
The reporter who straight up asks his boss to print a story about human suffering in gotham instead of football is a bad person.

>>94586429
>Not wanting Superman to directly kill a bunch of people becasue he angrily and directly dragged Zod through a 7-11 and into a populated town
>land next to president obama and give a warm and comforting story about how you just gotta do the best thing every time and make you feel better about yourself.
Totally exactly the same.

>>94586560
Dark shit for the sake of it is infinitely more boring and in abundance for all the edgy teens who finally just realized God doesn't exist. Oh noes!!!!

>>94586603
>You do understand that he's fucking SUPERMAN don't you?
Yes a realistic humanized version of him.
>>94586603
>You mean like survivors and a city being destroyed? Oops, gotta turn off my super hearing so I can have a good make out session with the Mrs.
THEY WERE FUCKING TRAUMATIZED AND SHAKING AS THEY EMBRACED AFTER SURVIVING THE BLACK HOLE.
>That John's scene...
Is great but that Superman doesn't exist in a dark paranoid world like the Dceu Superman does, CONTEXT MOTHER FUCKER!

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>>94586603
Posting this for you.

>>94586690
>Superman
>Realistic

Who the fuck wanted this?

>>94586657
>superman turns back the clock and nobody dies hurray.

>>94586690
>Superman
>literally fucking shaking rn

lol grade A film you got there, champ

>>94586708
>Superman aides in destroying half the city and killing hundreds of thousands of people

>>94586637
>- Sympathy doesn't mix with aspiration.
Sure it does, he is flawed and humanized but still overcomes that and does great things, that absolutely is aspiration worthy.

I just want to remind you guys that Snyder's best movies have him going off script to add in a rape scene and a zombie fetus getting shot in the head.

>>94586699
Because comic book stories are largely dumb and facilitated to sell more monthly issues?

>>94586699
People who want him to be relatable and actually consider his actions and effect on the world. Good and bad.

>>94586725
Nah, anyone can do it.
You don't get credit for nutting up.

>>94586721
>superman stops an alien invasion of earth.

>>94586721
>>Superman aides in destroying half the city and killing hundreds of thousands of people
No the city was destroyed before he entered Metropolis, only 2 buildings fell during his 1 on 1 fight with Zod and he did zero structural damage to them.

>>94586620
The fact that you think magic and sci-Fi bullshit is realistic, and time-travel is too much for you, that outs you as a hypocrite

>>94586690
>a realistic humanized version of him.
But that's nearly every Superman post-Crisis.

All that proves is that you don't actually read comics.

>>94586729
No Mos is 50 times better then his DOTD and thousands of times better then Sucker Punch.

>>94586762
>>94586759
Still a badly structured film with an unsympathetic lead (who is Superman, mind you), and an unnecessary amount of death and destruction. Typical Snyder, more or less.

>>94586694
Based

>>94586767
there is prior evidence of magical tech in DCEU.
There isn't any evidence of time travel (yet).

>>94586493
>fairly judge the films based on what they were trying to do
You fuckers always say this and it means nothing. We can absolutely say that intent is bad. That's a meritorious discussion. Actually try having it instead of crying about it.

>>94586801
>intent is bad
how exactly is intent bad? Because it doesn't show superman as being successful all the time at everything he does? Because it shows that even the smallest fuck up superman does have massive consequences on people?

>>94586767
Because it's handled seriously, the time travel was used for the singular purpose of avoiding any serious weight in the Reeves films.

>>94586797
Did you watch the film?

Did you NOT see Barry trying to warn Batman by traveling back in time?

>>94586825
The Reeve's films understood they were making a COMIC BOOK movie. The people making MoS have delusions of grandeur which are completely unwarranted and depressing.

>>94586690
>Is great but that Superman doesn't exist in a dark paranoid world like the Dceu Superman does, CONTEXT MOTHER FUCKER!
This isn't a matter of context though. It's a matter of what the CHARACTER chooses to focus on. Snyder wanted a Superman that accentuates the negative. The idea that the comics universe is this perfect happy world when they have Hub City and Bludhaven is stupid. But Clark chooses to focus on the good in the world rather than shut out the bad, because that's the kind of person he is. In the comics.
Not really surprising that you don't understand context though.DCEUfags have never really understood the term.

>>94586825
>Because it's handled seriously,
>jar of piss
>Lex Luthor in general
>still think somehow handeling something seriously is the same as being realistic

>>94586690
The lack of understanding here is embarrassing.

>>94586836
It wasn't in the first movie.
Maybe flashpoint retcons everything and everyone gets the comic supes they love.

>>94586817
Well, for one thing, by painting the world around Clark as shitty, it calls into question why he'd want to save it (and answers this with "he's just good fuck you turn off your brain and go with it") and more importantly, why we'd *want* to see it saved as an audience.
Now's the part where you accuse me of sociopathy.

>>94586872
>jar of piss scene shows luthor as an extremely vengeful person with a twisted sense of humor
>the entire setup shows him as a master planner.
>is based off real world 21st century tech billionaires

>>94586825
>the time travel was used for the singular purpose of avoiding any serious weight in the Reeves films.
The time travel had actual emotional weight to it, even if it was an ass pull.

Just like how Lex Luther magically making Doomsday out of Zod's body was an asspull

Or how Barry time-traveling was dumb bullshit

>>94586904
Would you say he was intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humour?

>>94586904
>>jar of piss scene shows luthor as an extremely vengeful person with a twisted sense of humor
You forgot "niihilistic".

>>94586890
How is the world around him shown as shitty?
Its just the normal world with all it's warts. I agree that the film needed a bit more colour during some scenes, but the entire montage of superman flying over the world and saving people and learning to fly show that its the regular world.

>>94586904
>treating the Jar of Piss seriously
Man I got punked here. You are good. I thought you were serious for a second

>>94586922
>>94586930
It showed that luthor is a mentally unhinged person who uses his vast sum of resources to get what he wants.

>>94586853
Yes and it's perfectly fucking valid that this Superman is not a naive blind fucking child.

Your asking for him to be outright negligent, asking him to ignore the darkness of this world will get people fucking killed. Just like it did in the senate, he didn't scan the room because he wanted to believe in the best of people and look what happened.

>>94586966
with a wicked sense of humour.

A topic about no more trunks becomes about the fucking movie.

Anyway blue trunks with yelle belt is coming.

>>94586971
It's just banter.

>>94586890
Because his parents taught him that human life inherently has value and that the big picture is vitally important.

>>94586904
>Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor
Fixed

>>94586976
Superman threads all eventually go this way. It's literally just the same two DC_Cinematic faggots defending the movies in shifts 24 hours a day.

>>94586998
>how dare people like other things than me.

>>94586970
Just because you crack a smile now and then doesn't mean you are ignoring "the darkness of the world"

Also Snyder said he specifically wanted to film Superman doing EXACTLY THAT

>>94586939
>How is the world around him shown as shitty?
>Its just the normal world with all it's warts.
Bruh, I'm following the chain of logic that states that Clark can't use his super hearing because he'd only hear human suffering. Like >>94586690 says, the Snyder version of Earth is "dark and paranoid".

>>94584099
>Now if only they'd stop adding weird textures to every live-action costume.
>What even is this? It doesn't look high-tech, it doesn't look organic, it doesn't look like chainmail, it's just distracting.

Having texture detail makes the figures look better in 3D. That's the real reason.
(Also: Marvel did it first and DC are desperate to be liked.)

>>94587020
>actually liking this trash

Wew lad

>>94586991
You say that but have nothing to actually support it but tautological loops.

>>94587029
No he can't use his super hearing because the sensory overload is too much. It was established in the movie and was a major help for him during the smallville fight with faora.

>>94587041
>stop liking what I don't like.

>>94587053
>dad tells him that someday he is going to change the world and he should be ready.
>mom tells him that he should either be their hero or stop his heroics altogether.
>he chooses to be the hero.

>>94587068
Dad?

>>94587087
Right.See, you're saying "he was taught to be a hero" because he ends up a hero. That doesn't actually follow. It's entirely plausible that he's doing it because the stony beats say so and that it's not an organic progression of his character as established.

>>94587062
Not according to word of god, sorry. Clark can't save his mom or discover she's been kidnapped because to open his senses would mean he'd have to hear humans suffering worldwide. That's Snyder's official answer. The world is too shitty for Clark to passively listen to it.

>>94587062
He learned to master it tho, like Zod

>>94587131
you are a faggot, son.

>>94583489
Makes me glad I don't read comics because I literally don't give a shit about this

>>94587306
I leaned it from you, dad

I learned it from watching you

>>94587265
he learned to hone his senses and shut out the sensory input.
>>94587133
His parents told him to follow his heart and he became a hero.
>>94587163
I am going by what was shown in the movie. I don't give a damn about what snyder says outside the movie. The movie shows kryptonians being overwhelmed by the high levels of sensory input that they experience and superman learns to block it out, same as zod.

>>94587356
I am proud of your boipussy son. I molded it myself.

>>94583489
Good riddance. Literally the only thing I disliked about him.

>>94587372
>His parents told him to follow his heart and he became a hero.
Why?

>>94585411
>Superman is meant to be lighthearted

One of the greatest selling Superman comics is Death of Superman. How is a story about superman's fucking death lighthearted?

How is For the Man Who Has Everything one of the best written Superman comics lighthearted?

Sure, lighthearted Superman stories exist and can work, but Superman doesn't not have to be a lighthearted character. Stories about Batman being a groovy dude in the 60s also work, but Adam West's Batman isn't the only interpretation of Batman.

>>94588388
Because of the contrast, dummy.

>>94588388
>>94588397

And also because it's the death of DC's flagship character, duh.

I am trying to think of a way dark Superman works, but I'm really having a hard time, here.

>>94585760
>Superman doesn't make those kinds of mistakes.
>Someone who has never read a Superman comic.
>the post

>>94588458
The tone was off. Just accept it already.

>>94584056
They wouldn't do it if they weren't. I guarantee it. How long have you guys been reading comics, jeez.

>>94583489
good they were always dumb
why comics held on to this design convention for so long, i have no idea

>>94585936
>When did Clark express his regret at the death of the people that died from collateral damage in Metropolis

A forced of aliens with godlike powers and advanced technology attack earth with the goal of genociding the entire human race and the capabilities to do it. Superman and a handful a soldiers manage to save mankind and prevent the aforementioned from ever attacking earth again.

Someone bitches at those who rescued them because during an alien genocide people died.

Yeah, fuck that person. It's like those liberated during World War II bitching at the Allies.

>>94588525
>i just started reading comics: the post

>>94588426
The way the movie did it: Superman isn't dark, the world around him is, and he brings light into it.

>>94583605
They are. They're literally back in canon. Rebirth is shifting away from the "lines lines lines" aesthetic of the New 52. That's why the JL costumes are more simplified and streamlined now. You probably won't see Superman wear the trunks in the modern day, but they'll definitely show them in a flashback. Same for Batman.

>>94588580
Nobody is asking Superman to feel bad for saving the world

It's the fact that he doesn't feel remorse for the people that died due to his actions, he never talked about it at all

>>94587083
This is gross and retarded like 99% of the redesigns that try to circumvent the trunks in overworked ways.

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>>94586262
They'll definitely raise the price up. Maybe 5$ for the issue instead of 3.99.

Action comics 500 was 1.00$ instead of the usual 0.40$ in 1979.

>>94583489
Good. The lame "underwear on the outside haha!" joke was getting old.

>>94587380
I hope that one day it'll be like yours, dad

I just can't get fucked by that many men yet

>>94589222
They'll probably do $7.99 :^)

>>94588724
>he brings light into it.
By not even trying to explain who he is or why he's doing what he does, just ominously appearing and stopping disaster and ominously floating away.

If only he knew a reporter he was banging that could give a personal interview. Or had an actual public persona, like, I dunno, a best friend. Nah, that's unrealistic.

It would be unfortunate to bring them back.

He looks much better without them.

I've not heard a single convincing argument for keeping them.

>>94588724
Maybe if you're an underpants gnome.
For most people, there's a missing middle step where we like Superman, or want to be like him, really, just or do more than feel sorry for him. And believe it or not, going "You're stupid and didn't get it" doesn't win any hearts or minds.

>>94590584
Except for, you know, they like infinitely better and are his classic look. Literally the very first superhero costume ever which has inspired countless others.

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>>94590833
No.

>>94590927
Oh yeah, I forgot he never wore briefs in his first appearance. Thanks for clearing that up.

>>94590927
New 52 is by far the worst one.

More than hearkening back to his strongman roots or breaking up the uniformity of his costume, the trunks have a symbolic purpose in telling the audience to get off their high horses.
You need only look at this thread to see the kind of person that likes the trunk less look; the kind of cynic that demands that Superman be "taken seriously", fumbling around in their own self satisfaction and pessimism disguised as pretentious psudeo-intellectualism and enlightenment to understand where this leads. First they come for the trunks, then it's the random acts of kindness, then it's his personality, and soon all the softness is washed away in a torrent of cynicism and only the edges remain.
Superman is not just a character, but an icon, a representation for his genre and a cultural underpinning, in the same manner as Peter Pan, or Santa Claus. Can we not "take them seriously" because of their green leaves and red suit respectively? Should we even be trying to? Why can't we just have a pure figure in fiction free of guile or complication? Fiction is limitless, why are we trying to constrain it in such a way? Does belief, or suspension thereof, really equate to maturity? I think not.
And why on earth would you want to appeal to someone so shallow that they can't judge a man by his actions or the content of his character, that they can't take him or the world he resides in or the lives he saves "seriously" because of how he's dressed? When Superman saves the world, does it really matter what he's wearing? Do trunks invalidate his good deeds? Do they remove his charisma entirely? And what's more, how is it that we, as an audience, give a free pass to a literal clown in a bright purple suit when it comes to "take this seriously" but on the other end of the morality spectrum, someone with a much less objectionable wardrobe can't be? What does that say of us as a society?

>>94590927
I'm confused. What did you mean to achieve with the posting of this image? Because looking at it, the only times he drops the trunks are in stories that are, if not reviled, then highly controversial and met with a decidedly divided reception.

>>94590158

Does anyone mind if they do? It's not like it isn't deserved unlike those random $9.99 Deadpool comics

>>94590947
The point is the boots changed and the logo. So you're wrong. Trunks are gone forever on Earth zero Clark.

You can still buy back issues and merch with it. Or read Earth 1 or the other multiverse Supermen with it. Kingdom come, Generations, etc.

>>94591060
>first sketch
>first appearance

learn how to read.

>>94590833

They do not look infinitely better. They look silly at best and embarrassing at worst.

Classic looks are a reason to keep them, i suppose, but it's one of very few, and it still doesn't make up for the fact that it looks silly.

And being the very first/and being inspirational still does not mean it's good or off limits to changing.

>>94588625
i've been reading comics since the late 80's kiddo
i lived through that shit
it was always dumb looking even when it was the standard for all superhero costumes
we just tried to ignore it as best we could

>>94591004
100% this and exactly what the movies are missing.

>>94591004
I love everything about Superman except the trunks.

So your post is useless to me personally.

>>94591004
Trunks are dated. Modt Marvel characters never had them either.

They brought every old aspect from the old old costume back but the trunks. The old cape, logo, colors, no lines, no armor plating, no neck collar, no hand sleaves, no black logo on cape, old red boots with old lines.

Yet the trunks is the the most desired? Weird.

>>94591004
Morons saw Watchmen and misunderstood it at every turn.

>>94591097
OH NO A SUPERHERO IS SILLY

>>94591149
And I'm saying that if that's the deal breaker for you then you are, at best, kind of shallow.

>>94591093
Learn how to read books retard. He had those Greek laced boots in this first years of issues.

The graph is wrong.

Homo.

>>94591231
Wow, go jerk off to your lined armour and watch BvS for the fourteenth time you crying little fag