This is the most recent Dreamworks movie I can remember, and

Megamind was 10/10, but you should probably also know How to Train Your Dragon

>>94580385
It was bought by NBCUniversal, which also owns Illumination Entertainment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumination_Entertainment

"On April 28, 2016, NBCUniversal announced its intent to acquire competing studio DreamWorks Animation for $3.8 billion. Meledandri will oversee both studios following the completion of the merger.[10][11] On August 22, 2016, the acquisition was completed.[12]"

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>>94580429
you didn't hear this from me but i think you're cute yaga
also that explains a lot

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>>94580385
I think this might be missing some titles but this should help bring you up to speed partway at least.

>>94580610
>Chicken Run
>Shrek 1

I fail to see any other good movies there.

>>94580781
>>94580610

Chicken Run is one of the best animated movies i have ever seen

>>94580781
>not thinking Shrek 2 is better than Shrek 1
unironic shit taste, mate

>>94580610
>tfw Dreamworks only made 4 hand drawn 2d movies
Dang.

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>>94580856
There was also a direct to video unofficial "sequel" to Prince of Egypt about Joseph.

>>94580385
working for netflix

>>94580856
>hand drawn

that can't be right

>>94582066
Don't you mean prequel?

>>94580610
Antz >>>>>>>>>> A bug's life

I also think that Megamind, How to train your dragon 1 and 2 are the best animated movies in the last 10 years

>>94583336
>how to train your dragon 2 > kung fu panda

??????????

>>94580610
>The croods had a show
>Turbo had a show
>Puss n boots had a show
>Penguins had a show
>Dragons had a show
>Kung fu panda had a show
>I think even that fucking home had a show

You know... Dreamworks might be on to something

>>94583448
Oh, and aliens v monsters had a show

>>94580610
I never saw El Dorado is it good

>>94580385
Dreamworks animation is making the Voltron Legendary Defender series which is a goddamn beautiful masterpiece of all times.

dat thicc Allura rule 34 as well

>>94580385
>What are they even doing right now?
The latest release is Captain Underpants. Before that was Boss Baby and Trolls.

>Boss Baby is getting a sequel
I can only hope Trump activates the nukes before then.

>Shrek 5 is in development
>memes will probably be in this movie

SOME

>>94580610
Wow, they have a total of 4 2D animated movies... it's been over a decade since they've given it up too..

>>94583498
fuck yes it's a masterpiece

>>94580429
3.8 bil seems like a huge overpay. Didn't Disney buy Lucas Films for 4 bil?

>>94583546
I thought CU was Illumination

>>94583498
It's one of the best movies on that list.

>>94583594
Meh, I worked at a theater when it came out. I thought it was pretty gay.
>Not even being stoned helped me to enjoy it

>>94580610

Take the Z-Pill, anons. Antz is true bug-kino.

>>94580781
>Shitting on Shrek 2, KFP, and KFP2

You wanna fucking go?

>You will never get a crossover of Megamind and Monsters vs Aliens.

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>>94583804
it was so gay they had to add chel to make it hetero and it still ended up looking like a poly relationship

>>94580781
>forgeting Prince of Egypt

Outta here

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>>94580781


>>94580808
Two of my friends from say that movies like Chicken Run and Wallace and Grommit are bad because the art style is "weird". One of them also said that Who Framed Roger Rabbit is not that good, comparable to Space Jam. This is why we get movies like boss baby and Home

>>94584065
space jam IS better than roger rabbit and boss baby isn't that bad

>>94580781

>Prince of Egypt
>Road to El Dorado
>Sinbad
>Shrek 2
>HTTYD 1 & 2
>Megamind
>KFP 1-3
>The Croods

All of them great.

>>94584174

Oh right, and I forgot Spirit. Great movie, too.

>>94584065
Was Home that bad?

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>>94584120

>>94583448
Dreamworks and Netflix made a deal for 12 shows.

>>94584257
It's what you'd expect from a lazy DreamWorks movie, but the alien played by Bazinga man made me loose sleep

>>94584345
wew thank god I'm not american

>>94584335
And still no Megamind show.
Heres my pitch
>every episode is two 11 minute bits, with exceptions
>One half is pre movie the other is post movie, not necessarily connected.

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>>94580610
>every fucking poster is just the main character(s) in a generic pose and a single color gradient background

>>94584120
How was Boss Baby anyway?

>>94584492
I need more content of either Megamind or El Dorado, I need it so much, why won't DreamWorks give me what I want

>>94580610
>tfw we'll never get Prince of Egypt remastered in 3D

>>94580385
Really all I care about is the new HTTYD series and the Trollhunter series they have on Netflix.

>>94584544
As I said, it's really not that bad, it's kinda weak in the middle part but it genuinely made me laugh out loud more than once and it draws clever parallels that you wouldn't expect inside itself, plus the sequences that take place in the kids' imagination are really creative in my opinion
It's not a masterpiece and I wouldn't call it DreamWorks' best movie, but it definitely does not deserve all the hate it gets in my opinion.
I encourage you to see for yourself, really

>>94584544
Just ok...they came up with the idea of a baby being the boss and that was about the extent of creativity. From there its just strange, babies are either sent to earth to live with a family or they become trainers at Babycorp...which produces babies. From there its just poop jokes and pop culture references while listening to Alec Baldwin reprise his role as Alec Baldwin in a film for the thousandth time.

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>>94580610
Checked off the ones I've watched. Of the ones I haven't, which are any good?

>>94584738
I reccomend El Dorado, Sinbad, Monsters Vs Aliens, ROTG, and Puss in boots.

Turbo. Penguins, The Bee movie, and Madgascar 3 are good for a laugh.

>>94584738
El Dorado (how have you never seen it man?!), Rise of the guardians, The croods, Madagascar 2, Shrek Forever After, and that's it
boss baby too

>>94584738
Drop everything you're doing and watch Price of Egypt and Road to El Dorado right now.

>>94584738
El dorado
Prince of Egypt
Madagascar series
Kung fu Panda series
The croods
Penguins
Rise of the Guardians

>>94583448
Spirit also has a show now too

Where the fuck is El Dorado's show?

>>94584738
Rise of the Guardians is pretty awesome. Its basically Avengers but the team is made up of Santa, The Tooth Fairy, The Sand Man, The Easter Bunny and some other dweeb fighting to save kids dreams or some shit. Its great.

Also Kung Fu Panda 2 is the only good Kung Fu Panda movie. The fight scenes are good, theres a lot less slapstick humor, the villain is great and the whole story is an allegory for when Confucianism took over China and drown out Toaism except in this one Taoism wins. Good movie. Also the climax and last fight are fucking beautiful and still give me chills.

>>94580385
How to Train Your Dragon sequel was good and not just a retread of the first movie like a lot of sequels are, the Croods was actually a lot of fun and I saw Trolls the other day after someone made a thread about it and it was pretty cute/comfy and has some extremely interesting looking art.

>>94580808
Right?
>>94580850
It was decent, but the Shrek memery just makes anything past 1 pure cringe for me.
>>94583854
>liking "Jack Black is a martial arts marsupial"
Please go.
>>94583952
Okay I'm sorry I forgot El Dorado and Prince of Egypt. They were good.
>>94584065
Your friends have shit taste m8. Plantation is 10000% underrated. Wallace and Grommet is the fucking tits.
>>94584174
If you thunk those were all great, your opinion isn't.
>>94584345
This. The second I heard his autistic voice I was turned off from even giving the movie a chance.
>>94584512
And all making that trademark DreamWorks sideways smirk like the stereotypical "cool kid." They all look like Nick from Jimmy Neutron. If anyone had that face irl I'd smack it right the fuck off of em.

>>94585020
I don't know how claymation auto corrected to plantation...

>>94580385
Since 2010? How to Train your Dragon 1 and 2, some Madagascar stuff, some Kung Fu Panda stuff, Mr. Peabody and Sherman.

Nothing really notable, to be honest.

>>94585104
>Dragon 1
Wait, no, scratch that. Megamind came out first.

>>94585020
You sound like the kind of guy I would not invite to movie night

>>94585134
BLAH i can't think right now. The first Dragon came out before Megamind, so it doesn't count.

>>94585139
Likewise, Chastain. You'd autistically screech when everyone else at the party wanted to watch a vastly superior Pixar movie.

>>94585453
...cumstain. I fucking hate phoneposting.

>>94585453
The best part is you're right, no way in hell my friends are seeing a Pixar movie in my house during movie night, they'll suffer through Shrek 2 for the umpteenth time and they'll fucking love it or else I'm disowning them all

>>94580429
So are they going to combine the two companies or is Universal just going to compete with itself releasing Illumination and Dreamworks movies each year?

>>94580610
The most bi-polar listing of movies

>Good movie
>terrible movie
>Good movie
>soso movie
>fucking huge movie
>really bad movie
>really good movie
>fuckawful movie

it just keeps going like that

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>>94585453
>likewise, chastain

>>94584257
Really forgettable, it's just dull and not interesting.

Not terrible but not worth paying attention to either

>>94580385
WHERE IS HIS GOATEE

>>94585751
OH SHIT HE'S BALD

>>94585481
>phoneposting
>mass response posting
>horrid opinion posting
Just end it already, good lord.

>>94580610
>I think this might be missing some titles but this should help bring you up to speed partway at least.
Only thing it's missing is Trolls, Boss Baby and Captain Underpants.

>>94585768
I've been phoneposting since 05. What's the problem faggot?

>>94586909
His weak thumbs can't handle it.

You know I love this movie, but why the fuck does it get played on Cartoon Network every day now? I can only ogle Roxanne's giant ass so much before it gets tedious.

>>94580610

GREAT TIER
>Prince of Egypt
>Chicken Run
>Shrek 1&2
>Were-Rabbit
>Dragon 1&2

GOOD TIER
>Antz
>El Dorado
>Kung Fu Panda Trilogy
>Monsters Vs. Aliens
>Megamind
>Puss & Boots
>Croods

MEH TIER
>Sinbad
>Madagascar Trilogy
>Over the Hedge
>Flushed Away
>Shrek Forever After
>Guardians
>Peabody & Sherman
>Penguins

SHIT TIER
>Spirit
>Shark Tale
>Shrek the Turd
>Turbo
>Home

>>94580413
How was Megamind 10/10? Metroman still being alive and not giving a fuck really brought down the message that just because you can, just fuck off and retire and play guitar and hope things work out for the best.

if he was really dead that would be another story

>>94580385
Shrek 7: No Stop on the Shrek Train

>>94588291

BEE MOVIE TIER
>Bee Movie

funny how literally the only reason Megamind didn't get a franchise like despicable me is his minions weren't annoying or obnoxious enough

>>94584619
Just finished watching Trollhunters and it was actually pretty good.

>>94588291
>flushed away
>meh

it's good, just very vanilla. nothing crazy, no big twists or turns, just a fun little family movie

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>>94584512
Some of them at least used to have different posters before that became a thing.

>>94588295
Metroman wasn't really the moral focal point of the movie though.

>>94585930
Anybody want to edit those in? I would, but I only have ms paint and I always fuck up trying to edit these chart things with it.

>>94588295
The whole point of the movie is that your role isn't spelled out for you, you decide your own destiny. Megamind may have been pegged as a villain but he was a hero deep down and did it his way. Metroman may have been pegged a similar way, as someone who always HAS to save the day when really he just wants to fuck off and do his own thing. Why should people be forced to do a job simply because they're capable of it? Do you stop all police officer or firefighters from quitting and doing whatever simply because they have the power and experience to save people?

>>94585656
Nope. They had thought about it and were in the process of such. But realized that illumination is run like an utter shitshow and that it would be a disaster.

So they just let Dreamworks run themselves and cut a deal with Netflix to keep that train rolling.

>>94583713
Reasoning is that they have so much money they don't give a shit. Legit that's what they said. Also that they'd make most of that back during Olympics revenue. That kinda didn't happen like they'd planned.

>>94588353
Moreover it was because the head of production didn't want to do "Parodies" anymore. IE Rip off Disney ideas.

>>94580610
Am I the only person here who hated How to Train Your Dragon? I just hated the kid characters so fucking much.

>>94585453
She was in Madagascar 3

>>94585020
>martial arts marsupial
>panda
>marsupial

please tell me it's just a meme i missed

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>>94580610
Purple = Must watch
Blue = Great
Green = Pretty good
Yellow = Meh/forgettable
Red = Shit
I didn't mark any I hadn't watched.

>>94588949
>Curse of the Wererabbit is Meh/Forgettable
>Flushed Away is Pretty Good

that's some shit taste you got there.

I JUST watched that two nights ago. Was with a big group of people, and we all wanted to watch Hot Fuzz. Host's laptop broke, so we broke out the DVD player and watched Mega Mind. Was ready to kill myself because it was another fucking kids movie and we always watch those, but it was a solid 8-9/10 for me. Really solid writing, good humor, decent visuals. It should have scored higher critically

>>94580610
I watched Home with my gf and it was horrible.

>>94584738
Go watch prince of Egypt right now.

>>94588949
Puss in Boots was okay, but I was expecting something slightly more mature. It's a spin-off about an assassin bounty hunter yet it feels way more childish than Shrek films.

>>94583713
Well Lucas Films was just Star Wars and Indiana Jones wasn't it? Dreamworks has multiple heavy hitting franchises like HTTYD, Madagascar, and fucking Shrek which alone has probably made billions of dollars in revenue. Not to mention they have potential to branch out and start other big franchises while Lucasfilms will forever be known for Star Wars

>>94584738

Rise of the Guardians was a pleasant surprise.
The other Shrek movies are optional, but I think you can skip 3. It's the weakest one in the series.

>>94588949

>Croods
>shit

get out. Its a good 'dad' movie

>>94583336
antz was distilled semen

>>94590667
>Its a good 'dad' movie

I don't understand this, or how it makes it good.
But then again I don't have a dad.

>>94591455
Well that seems like a personal problem.

Croods was cool though - neat art.

How was Boss Baby?

>>94585684

this studio is not afraid to do things.
meanwhile pixar/disney keep making same thing over and over.

>>94588949
I'd say Kung Fu Panda 3 was easily a blue on your ranking, I really enjoyed that shit.

>>94594510

>Entire village made of Pos.

yeah, nahhh.

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>>94584335
Yeah, they just sort of have the freedom to give whatever movie they make a short 52 episode show and see if it takes off.

>>94592073
Mediocre.

>>94592073
read >>94584622

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>>94588566
>Why should people be forced to do a job simply because they're capable of it?
Peter Parker's uncle got killed by that mindset

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>>94595058
They've already filled out all 12, but it sounds like they're eager to do more.
At the very least it sounds likely where that Felix the Cat reboot they've wanted to do since forever will be most likely to end up

>>94595105
Are any of those shows any good. I remeber being interested in that Turbo show because the guys that made Motorcity were behind it.

>>94596275
I've seen Trollhunters and I definitely recommend it

>>94591947

The idea of making the dad the main character was neat, but it's just so... meh. It feels incomplete.

>>94596439
we've had other movies with the dad as the main character, the Incredibles is an example that comes to mind right off the bat

>>94596275
>>94596297
Agreed, Trollhunters starts off slow but is excellent.

>>94596567
I havent seen it - what makes it good?

>>94590361
>just Star Wars and Indiana Jones
Not really, but regardless Dreamworks' entire catalogue doesn't even begin to compare to Star Wars alone (the most profitable media franchise of all time) in terms of sheer profits.

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>>94580610
>26 out of 32 movies have that fucking face

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>>94580610
Megamind is legitimately one of my favorite movies of all time.

>>94597826
same

>>94597826
My wife is a huge fan of it too.

I like the fact that evil wins and then just gets bored as fuck because once you've already conquered things you've got nothing to strive for or against.

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>I watched Megamind with my great great great grandmother only 1 year before she died

Time flies.

>>94597938
>croods came out in 2013
>it's 4 years ago
>feels like yesterday that I saw it in theather
where does the time go

My sister rewatched the croods a few days ago
I do NOT remeber it having such amazing visuals as the movie goes on

>>94596765
DEATH
SO MUCH DEATH

>>94597999
People can shit on Dreamworks for a lot of things, but they aren't a slouch when it comes to visuals.

The Croods, Trolls and How to Train Your Dragon 2 are all fucking beautiful movies to look at and they each look unique.

>>94598062
Like... babbys first game of thrones or something?

>>94598122
No, it's still a monster of the week show. It's just really surprising that a kids show kills off so many characters like it's no big deal, which it shouldn't be anyway.

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>>94597999
I always get a little sad when people say Croods looks bland.
It's a metaphorical blandness that reflects their closed world that is contrasted with the spectacular vibrancy that is the actual world they live in if they're willing to open up a little.

>>94598326
Plus that ending is heartwarming as fuck.

>>94584738
>tfw seen everything on this list but sinbad, guardians and mr peabody

>>94598501
Sinbad is kind of mediocre but not painfully bad - good for a rainy afternoon if you get tired of shitposting (not you specifically, just in general).

Guardians plot kind of meanders along but its a pretty good looking movie and has a few neat scenes and interesting character designs.

Never seen that one with the smart dog though.

>>94598568
my mother loved mr peabody as a kid and i've been meaning to give it a watch

im just more so surprised that i've seen so many god damn dreamworks movies, like more than pixar i think at this point

>>94598611
I mean there are 18 Pixar movies and 35 Dreamworks movies, so the odds of seeing more DWA are in your favor.

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>>94598386
agreed.

HTTYD and Croods were so good i ran to buy the dvd.

Chris Sanders is amazing when you let him do his thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5aFpVkMX6s

https://youtu.be/kuaeawQhMJw

>>94580610
I can't stop thinking in "the dreamwork eyebrows"

>>94598798
Also, Eep is a top tier waifu

Best Dreamworks girl.

>>94584738

Jesus, do you even /co/?

>>94580610
Antz is a great movie and certainly better than bugs life

>>94596567
I've started watching it because of this threads recommendation and I'm liking it so far.

Streets ahead of that lame HTTYD show that /co/ went wild over a few years ago.

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>>94598673

i have newfound respect for DW, sure, they were created of out spite, they did some garbage, but they also made gems.

meanwhile Pixar, masters of polish did same movies over and over, and now they're making sequels ordered by Gisnep.

Sadly, the future looks grim for DW:
>httyd sequel
>trolls sequel
>boss baby sequel

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>>94599030
best dreamworks girl is tigress

>>94599369
Cute Neanderthal > Furry With Daddy Issues

>>94599420
Cute tiger > Cave bitch with daddy issues

>>94599445
Tigress legit had daddy issues though. Eeps only issue with her dad was that he was TOO overprotective, which is pretty much the opposite backstory of "I fuck guys for attention".

Eep is the superior waifu.

>>94599501
tigress never fucked other people for attention

>>94599512
you obviously haven't been reading the right fanfictions

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>>94599533
I already read this kino

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>>94599306
>>trolls sequel

>>94588295

This would only be a problem if the film tried to pretend he was justified in doing this. But they pretty much call him out on it and have the female lead start throwing things at him in anger.

>>94599306
Let's not kid ourselves here; it's Dreamworks mission statement to make big franchises they can milk for many sequels.
They're only trying so many new things because they keep failing to find the hit that will generate trilogies.

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>>94595091
Poor Ben

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>>94599610

Disney makes franchises too. It all boils down to money.

everywhere.

>>94599687
Im still surprised they arent milking Zootopia

>>94599782

Cars/Frozen/Marvel/StarWars oversaturated the market.

>>94596454

Notice I said "the" dad, not "a" dad. The Croods sets itself up to be a fairly conventional young daughter vs mean dad story, which is a fairly common one. But then it pulls you a fast one on you and makes the dad the main character, not the daughter, which is usually the point of view of the story. The story is not simply "youth brings innovation" but rather "an old dog can still learn new tricks". The movie is much more about the relationship between the dad and the new dude than the dad and his daughter.

>>94580610
I swear I only like Monsters vs Aliens for the waifu and fetish material, Susan was cute.

My younger brother is the exact opposite though, he can't watch past the church growth scene, it freaks him out.

>>94599554
see
>>94599566

>>94599782

Cuz it's forgettable garbage. For furfags who have no money.

>>94584738
Peabody and Prince of Egypt the rest are shit.

>>94600038
dont worry about it

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>>94600571
Thanks. I really appreciate it.

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>>94599946
Dreamworks isn't particularly the feels factory that Pixar is, but they can still do some good ones.

>>94599687
>Mulan
I smell a flop harder than 2.

>>94600676
sometimes pixar goes waaay overboard with their llove for sad feels.

i foudn TS3 really depressing

but still:

https://youtu.be/RqjIkkwMlnw

>>94580610
Who the fuck asked for Over tje Jedge 2

And why is Penguins the only good Madagascar movie?

>>94588291
Why is everybody shitting on Spirit?

>>94580413
I think the first HTTYD was actually a couple months older than Megamind, so MM would still be the most recent one he can remember.

>>94601574
but over the hedge 2 doesn't exist, anon. ;-;

>>94584711
Boss Baby's based on a book, as pretty much every piece of film and tv is

>>94595091
Peter was right fuckin there and just kinda let the person escape. Metroman may want to be some vagrant or wanderer just practicing music but if a robber passed him by he trip the dude and leave the rest for the authorities. His main issue was that he felt OBLIGATED to stop every goddamn instance of crime and go out of his way thus taking away any chance of a life he could have had but given the same situation I don't think uncle Ben would have died that day.

>>94599554
what was the sauce of this? i cant seem to find it

>>94588949
>Antz
Better than most give it credit for, not as good as some claim
>Prince of Egypt
10/10 Musical that treats its source material with respect, whilst still being a kids movie.
>El Dorado
Fun, goofy movie with top tier waifu and lovable characters that carry it's kinda weak story
>Chicken Run/Curse of the Were-Rabbit
Nick Park is an animation and comedy genius, but he relies heavily on dry British humour that Americans don't get.
>Shrek
Must see spin on the fairy-tale formula, was the first to properly do it on the big screen.
>Spirit/Sinbad
Never seen them
>Shrek 2
Continues it's fairy-tale twisting but isn't necessary to watch. If you like the characters, a must see.
>Shark Tale
Don't.
>Madagascar
Kid's will love it. Adults... Maybe.
>Over the Hedge
Amazing voice cast and Talent, but not enough to hold up the bland story
>Flushed Away
Aardman stepped outside of their comfort zone, this one seems to try to keep the British feel, but seems very tailored to American comedy stylings. Less Laurel, more Hardy.
>Shrek the Third
More of the same.
>Bee Movie
There was an attempt. The memes will forever overshadow this.
>Kung Fu Panda
Clearly a cash-grab that someone decided they were going to put honest to god effort into. Everyone puts in a good performance and it came away as a must-watch.
>Madagascar 2
More of the same
>Monsters vs Aliens
Kids will love it.
>How to Train Your Dragon
A wonderful coming of age story that also has an epic bromance. Breathtaking animation, great storytelling and wonderful characters. Must watch.
>Shrek Forever After
A high point of the movies, Keeping it's theme of fairy-tale tipping, but also having a lot of heart.
>Megamind
"You are who you choose to be" and "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" put together in a fun and enjoyable film.
>Kung Fu Panda 2
Just as good as the first, cast put in a great performance and the animation and action set-pieces put on a great show.

>>94588291

GREAT TIER
>Prince of Egypt
>Chicken Run
>Shrek 1
>How to Train Your Dragon 1
>El Dorado
>Sinbad

GOOD TIER
>Antz
>Kung Fu Panda Trilogy
>Megamind
>Croods
>How to Train Your Dragon 2
>Shrek 2
>Flushed Away

MEH TIER
>Madagascar Trilogy
>Over the Hedge
>Were-Rabbit
>Shrek Forever After
>Guardians
>Peabody & Sherman
>Monsters Vs. Aliens
>Puss & Boots
>Penguins
>Turbo

SHIT TIER
>Spirit
>Shark Tale
>Shrek the Third
>Home

ftfy

>>94608138
>Puss In Boots
There was an attempt, but ultimately bland and forgettable.
>Madagascar 3
Better than it has any right being. Some interesting choices and actual character growth make it a good place to end it... But they didn't.
>Rise of the Guardians
"See, we can do Avengers too" It's good, but plays it a little too safe.
>The Croods
Heartwarming family film with a good question of Freedom vs Security. It's always nice to watch a childrens film where intolerance can be a villain.
>Turbo
It's exactly what you think it is. A few chuckles but ultimately kinda crap.
>Mr Peabody & Sherman
A nice attempt at a story, but it is too unfocussed to really draw you in.
>How to Train Your Dragon 2
Surpassed the first, building on it, taking risks and ultimately delivering a hell of a great movie.
>Penguins of Madagascar
Made for kids, although there's a few laughs to be had.
>Home
Bland, forgettable, but very pretty.
>Kung Fu Panda 3
An interesting idea that turned the plot on its head. A kinda weak villain, but nice to see Po growing as a character.

There you go, take it, leave it, tell me to fuck off back to the cancer-corner that is Reddit, that's my thoughts.