Was she wearing contact lenses?

>>94560100
If enough autists pressure Disney to explain the eye thing, I think they will say that.

>>94560167
What eye thing?

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>>94560178

>>94560178
You ever seen a sheep's eyes? A goat's?

>>94560100
She's the only female sheep that makes an appearance. The males all have the eye thing. In all likelihood? Design choice. The weird eyes are off-putting and you want her to remain as adorable and innocent appearing as possible for your heel turn later in the movie.

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She was just a very fluffy rat.

Would the movie be better if she wasn't the twist villain? Or without a twist villain at all?

>>94560373
how would that work
would the villain just be lionheart then?

>>94560178
all the rams that acted as her muscle had the horizontal sheep eyes. She was given big doll eyes like everyone else.

>>94560373
What do you mean? It was a mystery story. You don't KNOW who the villain was, but you knew that there was one. And of course it was going to be someone you already met because that's how mystery stories work. If it was just some random scumbag you haven't seen before then what good would that do? And if it were Lionheart then the movie would be over pretty quickly.

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Was she wearing anything?

>>94560167
Let's do it

>>94560100
Were horses in Zootopia?

>>94561541
Judy insulted one in the ice cream shop, but that might've been a deleted scene.

>>94560298
There was also the sheep at Judy's play in the beginning of the movie.

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>>94560298
>>94561987

>>94560100
I heard "No, her eyes were just like that. Medical condition that required her to wear corrective glasses". Don't know how legit that was, but she WAS wearing a dental plate. Sheep don't have upper incisors, and there were no separate teeth, unlike her real (and slightly crooked in some places) lower incisors.

>>94561951

they deleted a lot of scenes that had Judy interact with gigantic things, like a keyboard and a big car that parks over her.

Aside from the obvious eye candy that those scenes provided, they made no sense as we can see Judy living in the same world as elephants and they are not that much bigger that they would need a field-sized keyboard and cars.

>>94560504
Hubba hubba

>>94562008
INCONSISTENCY!

>>94560136
That would make her wool too sticky.

But seriously, people find Bellwether attractive? She's like Nicole (Gumball), she needs to be very off model to be attractive.

>>94563492
I find her attractive on model.

>>94560373
The real villain should have been the subconsious speciesism that pearmeated society

The story tried to tackle a big, real-world-ish topic but in the end it still ended up as the machinations of one person

>>94563752
I call it the Disney Villain problem.

>>94560100
No, in a world of talking sapient animals they just went a step further and gave sheep sexual dimorphism to allow the girls to still look cute and thus make the audience more comfortable/not immediately suspect Belleweather as the villain due to subconscious associations of goat eyes with evil.

What bothers me is the fact that this adult sheep female is a quarter the size of an adult sheep male. Like, how do sheep even reproduce if the size difference is that enormous? Sheep pregnancies must be fucking grueling.

>>94563790
the tv tropes thread is that way
>>94552710

>>94563825
You are like Berneyfag, sitting there, itching to post your shit.

>>94563811
designer sheep exist in real life
Which would mean that Bellweather is the product of generations of controlled breeding, or is a midget.

Perhaps the first one would cause her to to develop high expectations of herself, so she had to to anything she could to get power. The secon one could be another insecurity that caused her to turn evil- she'd literally be easy prey.

>>94562008
>>94563456
that's the black sheep, she's special

>>94562008
sheeps in general must be insecure about pupils, they are like hijabs

It comes from her dad's side, she's actually a half-breed.

The basis for her entire plot is more or less kicked off because of daddy issues.

>>94565849
We don't know anything about her parents though, do we?

>>94560292

Protect the Herd!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzH9GJgoHY

>>94567089
No, but I'd buy the half breed theory before the contact lens theory, mostly because she's still wearing said lens in prison, and if they aren't corrective (which they aren't, since she wears glasses) then it's hard to imagine they'd let her keep them.

>>94560100
I'm more bothered by how her glasses don't seem to refract light.

>>94568340


Because it's a rushed movie full of errors and inconsistencies.

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>>94568630

Point some out.

>>94560100
To hide the fact that she's a villain from the kids that have an IQ above room temp.

>>94563752
Speceism was the real villain.

This was just the part of the theme.

>>94563811
Cartoons exagerrate proportions.

>>94569479
Yeah but this is a movie where they draw attention to how researched SCALE is. It's an eyesore to have one species be such a radical exception.

>>94560504
Saw this on e621 a week ago and it's been stuck in my head. Catchy and sexy.

>>94560292
Anon, only some breeds of goats and sheep have those eyes. It's not universal.

>>94568973
Judy wasn't raped

I can't wait for Disney to start mining Zootopia franchise, this world is build for some cool stories, they could be be in a form of cartoons or comics.

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>>94561541
Yes, many. At the Carrot Days festival several are seen in the background near the maze. When Judy arrives in Zootopia. And during the press conference scene as well the aforementioned deleted scene 'Jumbo Pop.'

>>94568630
I have found only 3 continuity errors in the whole flick. Not sure if that's good or not.

>>94561541
...do you want sheep hug a horse art anon?

Or Judy?

>>94573815

It means you need to apply to "Please please pleese. Get a life" foundation.

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>>94573890
You first.

>>94570170
I don't believe you

>>94573659
HA!

>>94561541

Are you thinking about what I think you're thinking about?

>>94574242
I think so. ;-)

>>94574272

Four of 'em

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>>94574186

what do you mean? a billion dollar movie should have franchise by now!
just imagine: collectables, comic strips, clothes.
where is it?
is disney going to surprise us?! that would be sooo cool!

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>>94560100
I thinks it's time for lamb chops.

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>>94574737
You are everything wrong with humanity.

It's a godsend that Disney hasn't followed up with anything on Zootopia. The porn and cancerous fanbase are more than enough for me.

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They used Sharla's model to make Dawn
Of course they could make up the excuse that there are different sheep species to explain the dimorphism

>>94570136
doubt you know what this animation is referencing.

>>94576761

I don't understand why would you be upset, Zootopia is like Lion King. An unexpected hit. Why would Disney toss away a potential cash cow from their hands?


Also, fanbase is amazing, very supportive to anyone, creates great artwork and stories we need so badly.

>>94577293

we didn't see naked Judy, but we already saw naked nick, in the teaser.

>>94573783
>horses have hooves
>other hooved animals have fingers
Weird.

>>94578128
>Why would Disney toss away a potential cash cow from their hands?
Because Judy can't just be slapped on to the Disney Princess line.

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>>94578502
Sure you can, just give her a dress

>>94578502
Nick can, though.
He's the perfect princess to Judy's prince.

>>94578502

Make Nick a princess then.

>>94578603
Nick is the animal sidekick

>>94574180
http://gb.fotolibra.com/images/larger-thumbnails/424182-close-up-of-ewes-eye-and-ear.jpeg

>>94578564
That dress looks familiar...

>>94580289
Keep women in an immature state so you can keep selling them princess merchandise when they're 40 and still waiting for Mr.Perfect

>>94560100
say,how did the predators get their meat in zootopia?
was it like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4xytsouUYo

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>>94560298
>In all likelihood? Design choice. The weird eyes are off-putting and you want her to remain as adorable and innocent appearing as possible for your heel turn later in the movie
it's not to show her adorable and innocent. It's to make her stand out from the background crowds, avoid making her look so alien so viewers can relate to them and not feel weirder out with all the focus on her face.

Pic related is another blatant example of this. Unless it's a no name background character, it gets human eyes.

>>94580401
The word of god is they eat bugs and fish. Thee's a fish market visible in the Tundratown scene in the movie and while it didn't appear in the movie, "Bugburga" is a prominent fast food chain in Zootopia.

>>94580289

I just hate the Disney princess gang because Maid Marian isn't among them, despite her being the most princess-like

>>94580467
What about the ice cream, though? Who or what provided the milk?

What a fucking can of worms this movie opened by making it too similar to our world.

>>94580467
hm,are lions and the likes able to digest insects in real life?

>>94580289
>>94580401

Somewhat explains why Elsa sells so well: she's rich, powerful, independent and takes no repercussions for her actions.
Horrible role model they love.
>>94580503
Or Nala.

>>94580557
Nala went from childhood friend straight to queen, though.

>>94580542
Sure. Protein is protein. They could even eat a vegetarian diet as long as they got synthetic guanine and taurine to replace what they'd get in meat. Those are the chemicals 'obligate carnivores' like cats and weasels normally have to get from meat.

>>94580533
Maybe there are herbivores that sell their milk to be made into ice cream.

>>94581143
Disney's Endtopia

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>>94560100
This is why I've always believed that she drugged the other sheep into working for her.

In the movie, whenever an animal goes "feral," their eyes change from that standard cartoony look into something more realistic. The Jaguar's eyes get those cat-slits (pic related), the otter's pupils dilate... in fact, the dead giveaway in the final scene that Nick wasn't actually feral was that his pupils were totally normal. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's how I knew he was faking it the whole time.

This is why I think that the reason those other sheep had more animal-ish eyes is that they'd been drugged into following their "obedient" nature. Bellwether Nighthowlered 'em and gave em orders to start a race war. The other sheep, from the hitman to the cops, had no control of their actions. Bellwether was at the top of it all, the only one with normal eyes, master of the flock.

>>94580467
>Thee's a fish market visible

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>>94582381
Holy shit that explains everything

>>94580533
>What about the ice cream, though? Who or what provided the milk?

Almond milk. Soy milk. Hemp milk. And lots of really fucking kinky ass cows.

>>94579219
That's the exact same eye

>>94580457
The black eyed shrews are cuter.

>>94580457
Honestly, I hate this. That character's already recognizable by her hair and voice, there's no need to give her big googly eyes in order to say "REMEMBER THIS CHARACTER SHE'S IMPORTANT"
It's just pointlessly inconsistent.

>>94582381
night howlers do not work that way
even docile prey species become savage

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>>94582381
>The Jaguar's eyes get those cat-slits (pic related),
Jaguars don't actually have split pupils though. Only the smaller breeds of cats have those.

>>94578325
That's not as odd as you're think. Horses have a unified hoof, but many ungulates have separated ones, so they can cheat a bit.

>>94582431
Tonight on Zootopia: After Dark...

>that nudism part
>that mystic tantra comic

bueno

i watched zootopia for the second time and i still don't understand the message. something about prejudice or some shit. i don't care. the fat tiger is great.

>>94560100
I like an obscure fan theory from way back that sheep subjected themselves to a selective breeding program at one point. It resulted in the recognizable domestic sheep phenotype as well as a biological caste system is the leaders and the followers. The eye thing could factor in there.

>>94583208
how'd you miss the moral of a kids film
also it's a cheetah but w/e

>>94583208
It's about not judging people based on preconceived images / stereotypes of who they should be (the bunny isn't inherently helpless, the sheep isn't inherently innocent, the cheetah isn't inherently a fast runner, etc.).

>>94580542
You never saw a cat eat a bug?

>>94582565

Wouldn't that make horses essentially handicapped? What's the point of being bipedal and having arms if you can't use them to manipulate shit?

>>94560504


is that minus-8?

it kinda looks like minus-8

>>94560504
you just know it's EXTRA woolly down there

>>94574242
I just like horses, that's all.

>>94582381
Interesting theory.

>>94582536
I thought we never saw what it does to prey species? Even if that is the case though it could be some other type of drug; if they are capable of producing one mind-altering drug it isn't much of a leap to believe they could create a second one.

>>94584401
Bonnie's brother took a chunk out of her arm, remember?
That was just eating one of he damned things.

>>94584438
Oh, right. I forgot about that.

>>94578564
>that bun
>victorian dress

how a man can resist a delicate feminine bun waifur in a victorian setting? such a nice combination...

>>94568973
>Dat smug face
Please, i'm a wholesome Christian boy. Stop trying to corrupt my mind.

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>>94584085
s-shut UP!

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>>94586241
God created the furs to being enjoyed by men, it is written!

>>94569240
>speciesism is the real villain
>and bellweather was the malcolm x

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>>94586241

No. Embrace it. It is pure and loving and it's name is Hopps.

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>>94580457
>dat accent.

>>94588865
agreed

>>94579219
>posts a picture that disproves his point
What did he mean by this.

>>94588865
>>94589144
> They think Jersey accents are sexy
You poor, poor fools.

>>94580457
why do her friends' eyes look like that

>>94582559
And foxes

>>94583208
>>94583310

It's standard "don't judge book by its cover" with some racist jokes thrown in.

>>94583208
I found the message to be that everyone has preconceived prerjudices within themselves, and some aren't as apparent as others. but it's understanding that while they can exist for a reason, they should be applied to the individual and not the group, as one does not represent the whole.

>>94586533

what's that from?

>>94590016
>They think Jersey accents are sexy
No, we think easy, braindead dagos with big tits are sexy.

>>94583749
it's minus-8

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>>94591589

>>94591589
rimba racer

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>>94582732
I'll bet the nightlife there is interesting.

>>94591877
>>94591876

thanks.

looks very... "furry".

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>>94583208
from the mouth of babes...

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>>94592034
it's not so bad, at least I enjoyed it

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>>94592077
blah, blah, blah... yeah it's fine but I came for the bun porn, that is what truly matters!

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>>94583208

I suggest you to watch the ;making of" documentary about zootopia,Should expain what the movie is truly about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27IbgnYwiII

Actually every real zootopia fan should watch it.Very informative.

>>94574242
NEIGHED

I like Bellwether, I'm also one of those few degenerates who preferred pairing Judy with her. I just think that she was really reaching out to Judy, and wanted to be her friend. They're like a mirror image of each other.

>>94592249
Just left the Chavez thread too, right?

>>94592249

well, half of the europe countries is already collapsing thanks to "refugees". But i think the message is meant for the U.S. after all this country is one giant diverse kettle.
at last it's not as bad as the message of the original pitch

>>94592597
>after all this country is one giant diverse kettle
will this meme ever die?
the US wasn't like this until the 1965 immigration reform.

>>94592688
educate me.

>>94592726
i'm going to paste a comment i made earlier and found in the archives

>>78139570
before the official existence of the US, most people living within its future borders were of english stock, or immigrants from england.
the next most populous are germans.
http://immigrationtounitedstates.org/548-history-of-immigration-1620-1783.html

during the early 1800s, many people continued coming from Germany, and also other Scandinavian countries. much land in the northern central US was cheap, and uninhabited causing highly motivated and intelligent people to come to the US to buy land.
during -and only during- the irish potato famine, a huge wave of irish came to the US.
after the famine ended, they stopped coming and allowed the irish to assimilate into US culture
https://sites.google.com/site/thenorthsite/early-immigration-in-the-u-s-1

in the late 1800s, more northern europeans came, but a notable amount of chinese also came to the west coast.
i say notable, because they never did this before
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/photo/immigration-1870-1900/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_immigration_to_the_United_States#1850_to_1930

populations from 1930 onward can be seen here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_immigration

it's quite bleak

>>94592291
Has 'Imagining Zootopia' ever come out in 1080p?

>>94593380
probably have to buy it.

>>94593448
Thanks, I have it in 720 from some Zoo-anon last year when it came out. A good show to watch.

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>>94593664

yeah, hilarious.

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>>94579219

>>94562099
Fuck off, Jobel

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https://www.faceREMOVETHISbook.com/DisneyZootopia/videos/1947810972107692/

ahh, technology

>>94590099
Cuz their not Italian, anon.

>>94592291.

I think I'd enjoy that movie more.

>>94592249

Ha! Served you right. Diversity IS strenght, through differences - we unite! And no one will separate us by any means.

So are the sheep supposed to be the Jews?

>>94577172
gonna take a shot in the dark and try basic instinct

>>94564011
subtle anon.
real subtle.

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>>94596611

anon, no, the polar bears represented jews, at least in the initial story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkJGLCleFmI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7Br9p2f-Q

>>94580457
>mob boss daughter
>shops at target
Someone's cheap as fuck.

>>94597012
iirc his official job is being owner of suit making company.

>>94596587
Diversity is weakness when there is no assimilation, like with muslims. Cultural arrogance and self-imposed separation due to religious arrogance ("take not christians and jews as friends, as they are only friends to each other"/western culture is obscene and decadent) weakens the whole, cuz it's us...then them, instead of them joining and further strengthening us.

>>94560100
It's design ethic. Rounder eyes are easier to associate and empathize with.

In her case it helps disguise that she's the villain, not the 'nasty looking' carnivore characters.

>>94580401

Zootopia is only mammals. The movie and other sources implies that non-mammals didn't evolve and are fair game.

However, I can easily see why they kept this discreet to avoid confusion.

I do love what Bojack did with the meat industry however, but it would never work for any other show.

>>94580542
>>94581119

Film Theorist answered that exact question about the Lion King.

>Film Theory: Can The Lion King SURVIVE on Bugs?
>/watch?v=fmRs8HaMRUA

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>Bellwether
>noun
>"...derived from the Middle English bellewether and refers to the leading sheep of a flock, with a bell on its neck."

Huehueheu

>>94593736
Look at those expressions. They say a lot about the first concept, shock collars, et all.

Guy on left is thinking >wtf did I just watch?
Lasseter >are you guys for real..?
facepalm guy >I missed a day of golf for this..
4th guy is thinking >cuts. Lots of cuts coming..
5th person >i'll pick my nose casually but make it look like i'm scratching it

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>>94598668

>"for two years you worked on "THIS?!"

>>94597012
Where else can you buy leopard print jeggings?

>>94593736
Man, I would like to have a couple of those prints in the background. Specifically the one just above Lasseters head, the one by concept artist David Goetz & used on the cover of "The Art of.." book. Anyone have a hi-res scan of that?

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>>94598897
you should call disney.
it's sad to see such good movie fade into obcurity because no one called disney for more merchandise.

women all over the world were literally begged disney for some elsa dolls.

>>94598995
what an amazing pic

>>94560504
Minus8 wins it again

>>94599074

don't forget to watch Coco for me!

-Olaf.

>>94599216
same goes for leggy.

>>94582381
except the two sheep running the lab were clearly not drugged and they had slit eyes

>>94598668
facepalm guy is Ed Catmull, el presidente of Disney animation. He's thinking of $$

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>>94599354

"i gave money for this??"

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>>94598995
Yeah the print was given out in a 4-pack at D23 expo in 2015.

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https://vimeo.com/155689736

picture unrelated

>>94599354
>Ed Catmull, el presidente of Disney animation
Ed pioneered computer graphics in the 1970s and illegal antipoaching measures in the 2000s

No literally he's the epicenter of the unspoken agreement between Disney, Sony etc. to keep their animators underpaid.

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>>94560100

Nick's eyes look nothing like a real fox's either, OP.

There's actually fairly few animals with a pronounced white sclera like humans have them. Some dogs do, but that's more due to selective breeding.

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>>94600566

i'm so disheartened.
the king [disney] is naked.
this movie opened so many cans of worms.

>>94560504
>it doesn't reverse for a perfect loops of her crossing her legs the other way

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>>94597725
Also, a Wether is a castrated MALE sheep

Makes ya think, no?

>>94601321
leave.

>>94579219
were you high?

>>94601321
Come back drawfriend.
We appreciate your talents here

>>94601321
Is that nightflower in her hair?

>>94601321
If your work is too nsfw here, try your luck in /trash/. I'm sure they'll be much more receptive.

>>94601321
SFW Bellwther taking Judy to a bar and try to give her a subtle Redpilling on why preds are subhuman that need to be locked up

>>94602091
*collared