Cyborg is a C-Tier hero at absolute best, why is DC trying to

>>94515886
Because they've got no other black heroes.

Every black Super hero is C-tier at best. Prove me wrong.

>>94515916
Panther is B list going on A next year.

>>94515916
Storm is B tier

Because they don't give a shit about Static, even though he's cooler.

>>94515886

Because it's either they try to elevate existing Black heroes, or they do what they did to Wally and replacing existing heroes with minority counterparts.

Be glad they learned their lesson from trying the latter and changed course to the former beford they went full Marvel.

>>94515916
Spawn is above C at least

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>>94515886
They needed a black hero diversity hire on the League and thanks to the Teen Titans cartoon he was the most obvious choice. Static has fucked Milestone rights so he was out, Steel was too Superman heavy and too similar to War Machine/Iron Man for their liking, and Mister Terrific doesnt have much exposure or potential. Personally I would have went with Vixen

>>94515886
Black

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>>94515886
>Iron Man is a C-Tier hero at absolute best, why is DC trying to make him a big deal?

>>94515916
Define [letter]-tier, powerwise? famouswise? Monica Rambeau is powerful as fuck, so is Storm and Blue Marvel

>>94515999

I'd argue that Storm is closer to A. As far as X-Women go, she's arguably the most popular, with Rogue being the only other contender for top spot.

>>94516030
I would have picked Vixen too
She's got a unique power set and it would make Wonder Woman look like less of a token chick

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>>94515916
John Stewart
Static
Storm
T'Challa
Falcon

C-tier is pretty fucking low. C-tier are the guys who showed up in the background of those massive DCAU screencaps.

>>94516047
>DC

>>94516071
>Falcon
He's totally a C-tier, probably even D. It makes no sense he's in bigger leagues.

Black Americans consume the most TV/Movies in the US. Black men are huge nerds too. The growing black middle class means there is a lot of money to be made in appealing to them in all forms of entertainment.

We will see this with other groups in the future as they move up the social and economic ladder. The is already a small push for Muslims/Arabs.

>tfw you thought Martian Manhunter should be the one
>tfw it doesn't count because shapeshifter

>>94515886
Trying to recapture that positivity and nostalgia that people had for him on teen titans and put it on the big screen and he's probably the only black hero that some regular people remember.

>>94515886
Does Wonder Woman fly in the DCEU?
If not then maybe they could have gotten away with using hawkgirl.

>>94516135
>still perpetuating this middle class meme

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>>94516047
Cyborg is nothing like Ironman

>>94515886
Would you rather they make Superman, Flash or Batman black? That's the alternative to drafting Cyborg into the League.

Cyborg was their most famous black, so that's why they went with him.

Personally I would have wanted Mr. Terrific, but he needed a whole new rebranding because the name Mr. Terrific, while I love it, is objectively dumb.

>>94516068
Had she appeared on a television show earlier outside of JLU like she did on the CW, she might have had a chance. She really does have a good powerset, its a nice middle ground between street level and metahuman class. Furthermore like you said, it gives Diana another woman to interact with

>>94516118
What the fuck are you talking about? Power wise or publicity?

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>>94516065
>Scott is the "main" male Xmen
>nobody has him as their favorite
>Jean is the "main" female Xmen
>nobody has her as their favorite
How did this happen?

>>94516135
>Black Americans consume the most TV/Movies in the US
>13% population consume the most TV/Movies in the US
Let me fucking doubt it

>>94516183
>Cyborg is nothing like Ironman
>member of a larger team who had no notable solos and was sidelined for decades
>nothing alike

>>94515886
Black heroes who should've been in the Justice League instead of Cyborg and why they aren't
>Black Lightning - Generic Electric Black Guy
>Mr. Terrific - Black Batman
>Icon - Black Superman + Issues with the rights to the character
>John Stewart - Needed in GL Corps + maiking way for a different set of diversity characters
>Steel - Black Iron Man + Superman fanboy

>>94516217
http://thegrio.com/2013/09/27/nielsen-report-confirms-blacks-watch-more-tv-than-any-other-group/

http://www.adweek.com/digital/study-ipsos-media-ct-facebook-iq-african-americans/

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J'onn aside, Im not so much annoyed with Vic on the team but rather more concerned about the Mother Box origin retcon. New God tech just seems like overkill and basically allows Vic to pull whatever technobabble out of his ass

>>94516206
>>Scott is the "main" male Xmen
>>nobody has him as their favorite

This is incorrect.

>>Jean is the "main" female Xmen
>>nobody has her as their favorite

This is also incorrect unfortunately even though Jean is shit and needs to stay dead for the rest of time.

>>94516306
Incidentally, this is why E!SPN is the way it is and why the NBA can't fill their arenas but has that ridiculous TV deal.

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>>94516294
> Generic Electric Black Guy

THE Electric Black Guy.

>>94516306

Ok so they watch more TV on average but they still make up only 13% of the population

>>94516309
He didn't originate from Mother Box technology. He has components from all the main roboticists in the DCverse and he later integrates the Mother Box via technopathy.

Presumably, this ability to incorporate the Mother Box is due to him being part Amazo but I don't think that's been confirmed one way or the other

>>94516306
>Afroamericans watch more TV
That means nothing, they're still 13% of the population, even if they watch TV 2 hours more per day more than any other group, other groups are still who watch more TV

10 hours x 85% > 14 hours x 15%

>>94516353
>>94516387

>Boss comes around to give you your paycheck
>You leave 13% of the money on the table because ???

>>94516353
Ok? That doesn't change the fact they watch more TV so there is money to be made in appealing to them.

>>94516309
>and basically allows Vic to pull whatever technobabble out of his ass
I'm not against that. 80s TT Cyborg would have been a useless chump in the JL compared to everyone else. It levels the playing field

>>94516306
>I don't know what statistics mean
Don't worry, anon, go back to school, I'm sure they'll teach you again

>>94516353
>"B-But I'm still right!"

/pol/kiddies are funny.

>>94516387
You clearly didn't read the articles.

>>94516393
What has that anything to do with the conversation? moving the goalpost already after two posts? damn, gonna call you Barry from now on

>>94515886
He's popular on the Teen Titans cartoon series.

>>94516309
My only problem with Cyborg is his emblem desu

>>94516056
>Define [letter]-tier
This. OP you failed to mention how Cyborg was a c-list character. What are the merits here?

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>>94515886
Because DC Comics ironically has very little black Heroes and all of them are C-List or below. The other black heroes are barely known outside certain circles.

It's why a lot of people call DC the Republicans Comic and Marvel the Democratic Comic

To top this off, black heroes/heroines as the focus of the comic or are the MC of the book get less revenue then someone who's Asian or Caucasian.

>>94516393
>>94516395

Both links were TLDR. Do they actually bring in more money or does it just say the average black person watches TV more than any other race?

>>94516425
He always was and always will be a Titan.

>>94516414
I did
100% of blacks < 20% of other groups
Even if only 20% of other groups watched any media, they would still be more people watching it than the entire black population. Therefore other groups consume more TV/Media than blacks. Statistics, nigger.

>>94516414

What the fuck does that have to do with /pol/?

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>>94516404
Look at this brainlet here.

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>>94516482
You clearly didn't read the articles AND have a gross misunderstanding of statistics. How does it feel being subhuman?

>>94516206
Jean was never the "main" female X-men. Storm is much closer to that. In fact, you could argue Storm and Cyclops were the primary characters in Claremont's run. Mid 70s to early 80s were very dedicated to Cyclops while mid 80s to early 90s were very Storm centric atleast in the main book.

>>94516482
What a fucking idiot

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>>94516482
The articles themselves even compsenate for your argument and you still didn't read them. Are you illiterate?

>>94516554
Grow up

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>>94515911
>no other black heroes
Ahem

13% population watching 24 hours of TV is still lower than 87% population watching 10 hours of TV.

Look, an easy example
Blacks (13% population) pays 100 $ = 0.13*323,1*100 = 4200.3 M dollars
Rest (87%) pays 50 $ = 14054.85 M dollars

Now, which group paid/generated more income?

>>94516470
>"I'm too much of a brainlet to read and comprehend a short article. Tell me I'm right /pol/!"

I dont even know why I try anymore.

>>94516598
>calling someone an idiot because they're wrong
>"Grow up"

Stop being stupid and I'll think about it.

>>94516460
What's wrong with being C-List? I thought we were all in an agreement that C-list characters lend to better stories when it comes to DC?

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>>94516306
>http://thegrio.com/2013/09/27/nielsen-report-confirms-blacks-watch-more-tv-than-any-other-group/
You know what this ironically shows though. This is basically showing how low Black IQ is and how lazy they are. While other races are outside doing productive things with their lives, blacks sit at home and do nothing more then any other race.

>>94516606
>Name is Green Lantern
>argue that he's black

stupid retarded idiot
i'll call you a stutardiot for short

So much /pol/ in here, face it, we won, you're going extinct in less than 10 years.

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>>94516608
>Combining the rest of the races yo intentionally skew the data to help his argument
>Pulling random numbers not relevant to the discussion out of his ass

Your 5th grade math teacher would be dissapointed in you.

>>94516460
>DC Comics ironically has very little black Heroes
I disagree, I think DC has quite a lot of black heroes.
>all of them are c-list and below
C-list to whom exactly? Cause most comic book superheroes are C-list to normies. Even a casual would know who Black Lighting is so how autistic of a fan am I if I consider Steel or Vixen to be at least B-list?

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>>94516621
They do, to comic book readers, but your average normal person who doesn't read as much wouldn't know half or any of those C-Listers. They'd know all the ones that have always been popular and the majority, if not all of the popular ones that your average, normal person knows is (thankfully) white.

>Trying to pander blacks even more
If they're already watching TV 10 hours per day isn't asking for more a little overdoing it? they need to work to pay for those services, there's a limit in how many hours per day they use to watch TV, days only have 24 hours.

>>94516662
>Green Lantern isn't a sexy orc girl
EXPLAIN THIS

>>94516621
>Cyborg
>Cheetah
>Captain Cold
>Captain Marvel
>Creeper, The
>Circe
>Catwoman
>Captain Atom

I guess it's debatable how good the C-team is?

>>94516697
>Even a casual would know who Black Lighting is so how autistic of a fan am I if I consider Steel or Vixen to be at least B-list?
I'm not saying you're autistic but even less normies would know who Steel or Vixen are.

>>94516706
You're looking at the wrong sector. Cute orc girl GL is a couple sectors up.

>>94516690
I'm combining because the first anon said "Black Americans consume the most TV/Movies in the US"
I'm not negating the articles, I'm negating the articles favour that first anon claim

>>94516613

It's just way too long and no really interesting. Again, what does it have to do with /pol/? Never said anything negative about anyone

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>>94516632
Yeah those blacks aren't productive members of society like /pol/

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>>94516718
And how many of those C-Listers on your list are black?

>>94516047
You say that, but Iron Man has always been one of Marvel's "Big League" Heroes.

>>94516751
Catwoman counts right?

>>94516737
/pol/ clearly doesn't consume more TV/Media than blacks, therefore they must be doing something productive

>>94515886
Because johns wanted hal on the justice league.

>>94515886
Why are you trying to keep a C-tier hero forever is the real question...

>>94516730
>OP aks why media companies are trying to appeal to blacks more
>OP says because blacks have more buying power
>"Nuh uh all the other races combined have more buying power!"

Do you not see how your argument is flawed and not relevant to the discussion?

>>94516806

That's not how it works

>>94516726
So A-list means recognizable to normies
B-List means recognizable to casuals
C-List means characters who have fans but never get any solos
D-List means obscure waifus

>>94516790
Like shitposting all day about how to save the white race?

>>94515886
They should have just pushed John Stewart to be the Green Lantern of the movie universe. Cartoon Network 90s babies grew up with him and like him. Instead they tried to force Hal Jordan on the public and normies don't seem to care for him.

>>94516766
>Always

What?

Marvel's big names have always been Fantastic Four, Hulk, and Spider-Man, back in the 60s and 70s. Later that was embiggened to X-Men/Wolverine in the 80s. In the 90s the hot goodness was Cable, Punisher, and Venom. Also still Wolverine.

They only started pushing Iron Man in like, what? Civil War? Up until like,Extremis or whatever, literally his ONLY story was Demon in a Bottle. The Thor/Cap Am/Iron Man trifecta is a very recent thing.

Reminder that Cyborg desperately needs a magic based villain
>>94516833
Cant, Johns loves Hal too much

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>>94516608
>A bunch of groups combined is bigger than one single group

Wow Anon thanks for the 1st grade math lesson.

>>94516118
Falcon is historically C/D tier but has been B for years now. Several ongoings, multipleovie appearances, etc.
Rankings don't stop at some abitrary point in the past.

>>94516830
That's browsing on the internet, already counted in consuming media according to the article. Blacks still win at that. Try harder.

>>94516353
0.13 × 300,000,000 × $1 = $39,000,000

>>94516606
Why would I want Stewart when I can have Hal?

>>94516830
Don't bother, anon. People like him are too far gone.

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>Being a black person who doesn't give a fuck during the Diversity Era.

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>>94516869
Why would you want Hal when you could have Iolande? Idiot.

>>94515999
I'd argue A-list before Marvel crashed X-Men into the ground with Soule and other shitty writers. I just want Storm to run a school and expand upon her weather witch ancestry and go back to being a catgirl.

>>94516866
>An ethnic group uses the Internet for a variety of purposes vs. one small niche group who uses the Internet for one purpose

Wow it really activates the almonds huh?

>>94516869
Because Hal is pure while John is a slut! A S L U T !

>>94516907
Doesn't matter the purpose, /pol/ still wastes less time on the net/tv/any media than blacks, therefore /pol/ is more productive

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>>94516071
>C-tier are the guys who showed up in the background of those massive DCAU screencaps.
No, that's D-tier. C-tier gets minor speaking roles but no actual focus. Like Shining Knight and the other characters they kept throwing onto teams in JLU.

Like, nobody gives a fuck about this guy or his wife's daughter. They don't even tell you his backstory, but he's better off than DCAU Power Girl, who only appeared in the comics.

>>94516931
I'm going to reiterate what I said since you're a brainlet.

>An entire ethnic group uses the Internet for a variety of purposes vs. one small niche group who uses the Internet for one purpose

Does it make sense to your subhuman brain now?

>>94516071
IMO
B approaching C, will be bumped back up to high B by the Lantern movie
C tier, B formerly.
B tier, formally A (90s-early 00s)
B tier, maybe A in the very near future.
B tier, formerly C but it's been awhile.
This is assuming the tier list caps at A, and not some S, AA/AAA shit.

Cycborg has been B tier since the original cartoon, though you could say he dropped to C briefly in there somewhere.

>>94516931
>therefore /pol/ is more productive
I wasn't even paying attention to whatever you guys are arguing but I saw this and I immediately laughed.

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>TFW as a black nerd I don't get a say in the conversation because I don't care about characters having the same skin color as me, just that the stories are good.

>>94516912
Hal's fucked Cowgirl, Carol, and Arisa at least

John had Fatality, Katma Tui, and that one chick who he wanted to fug before Katma, and I guess Hawkgirl? Not sure if that just from the show or if that was something pulled from the comics

>>94516834
>They only started pushing Iron Man in like, what? Civil War? Up until like,Extremis or whatever, literally his ONLY story was Demon in a Bottle. The Thor/Cap Am/Iron Man trifecta is a very recent thing.
no way man

>>94516964
The other anon proved it by posting statistics of blacks being the group in USA who consumes most TV/Media/Browses, etc

He can't have both that and the opposite.

>>94516968
John and Hal are actually eskimo brothers.

>>94517014
The fact that they do consume the most media is the reason you don't have to try to appeal to them in the first place. They're already watching, you've got them in the bag already. So try to get the ones who aren't watching by appealing to them with white characters.

>>94516931
>Being this stupid

The white race is fucked if these are the saviors.

>>94517066
cant do that. doesnt follow the modern cultural narrative wherein a black has to be in EVERYTHING.

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>>94515886
Everyone knows it should have been Apache Chief.

>>94517066
>Not trying to rise the # of hours spent in TV/Media by Blacks above 24

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>>94515886
Because there isn't a lot of other options.

John is probably one of the least popular Green Lanterns, even if he was more popular he'd just be "the black one".
The black version of Mr.Terrific is pretty dumb.
Nobody knows who Icon is and he is shitty black superman.
Black Lightning is seen as stereotypical in not just name but powerset.
You can't go with Steel or Batwing for pretty obvious affiliated reasons.
There is Vixen, but her whole schtick is primitive animal spirit magic and that is almost as bad as lightning powers.

The low effort creation of a cyborg named "Cyborg" who isn't a mantle or anything is better than those.

>>94517096
I'd kill for a more realistic interpretation of all the racist characters from Superfriends.

>>94517066
It doesn't work that way. The articles even state that blacks favor more diverse casts.

It's over man, white characters are slowly losing buying power.

>>94517079
>Doesn't get a reductio ad absurdum
On top of not getting statistics as already proven you can't even understand one, damn, srly, go back to school

>>94517066
>So try to get the ones who aren't watching by appealing to them with white characters.
You mean like Superman and Batman?

>>94516206
Wgen wolverine crosses his claws he is the x man

>>94517114
>buying power
...but whites still pay more, 63% still pays more than the 13%

>>94517066
Motherfucker that's not how we do businesshere, it's not enough to have them watching! We have to become a necessity to them! Media must become the very thing they need to survive or else what's the fucking point.

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>>94517096
Cant, fucked Milestone rights just like Static. Though I do miss him, JLU had a better name for him too. Long Shadow would be cool to see again.

>>94517129
>>94517014
Unless.../pol/ is black

>>94517129
>Not getting statistics

Oh you mean those obviously skewed numbers that one Anon posted? I know over in /pol/ you guys like to post obviously biased data but the rest of the world doesn't work that way.

You also dont understand how demographics work. The white race is dead since all it has is subhumans like you to defend it.

Do we really need to have the same thread every damn week?

>>94515886
Because Teen Titans was popular

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>>94517178
This guy gets it.

Quick, post your personal definition for what it actually means for a character to be an A, B, C or Z lister.

>>94517159
That 63% clearly isn't consuming as much media as the 13% thus meaning the 13% pays more.

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>>94517190
I'd take one of the Manitous as well

>>94517190
Apache Chief has nothing to do with Milestone.

>>94517214
>Has to go back to ad hominems because he has been BTFO from different angles
Man, I'm sure you were the best in debate class

>>94517066
>o try to get the ones who aren't watching by appealing to them with white characters.

Nobody wants to see white characters anymore. The demographics of the west are changing. People want characters who look like them.

>>94517219
Yes because that is how deep the butthurt is for these people because Cyborg is part of the JLA.

>>94517269
Then why are Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman still doing the best?

>>94515886
>why is DC trying to make this character popular.
Money, which isn't a bad thing.

>>94517232
How much exposure a character gets divided by how many actual good stories they are in.
A D list character will at the end of the day still be D list if the stories they appear in are terrible.

>>94517235
>I know nothing about statistics
Again, no, that 63% watches 8 hours compared to the 10 hours of the 13%, still those 8 hours on the 63% of the population are way more than those 10 from the 13%. Srly, is pretty easy to get.

>>94517296
Because they transcend race.

>>94517269
>>Nobody wants to see just white characters anymore
Fixed.

>>94517296
WW isn't white
Alien Superman clearly isn't white either
As for Bruno Diaz, yep, that name, not white either

>>94517260
>"It's Ad Hominem because I dont agree with it!"

Go ahead and post those statistics you're championing again. I'll sit here like a math teacher and tell you why those numbers are skewed, subhuman.

>>94516068

I don't think Wonder Woman is really seen as the token chick in most cases.

People who read Wonder Woman know that she deserves her spot on the team more than anyone not named Clark.

Anyone who reads Justice League knows that she isn't the token female since there's usually at least one other woman on the team or more, and that Diana commands enough respect that her word holds an obscene amount of weight and her opinions are always considered with seriousness.

And given the current state of DC movies and the direction they're going, non-comics fans are going to start viewing her as the backbone of the team and the voice of reason that keeps them all together instead of them trying to rip each other in half because Christ knows Superman is too busy being a...Well, Christ allegory, to do it himself.

>>94517253
Really? Which company then?

>>94517355
Hanna-Barbera.

>>94517296
>Jew Woman
>Profited more than Batman and Superman combined

>Batman and Superman
>Made less money than a bunch of literally whos with a 1/3 black black cast.

Makes you think.

>>94516834
What? Cap America was always high b tier.

>>94517344
>Championing again
I'm using the ones you posted against you, friendo, I didn't post any. You're so lost in this conversation.

BOOYAH

>>94517302
>Implying all 63% of white Americans watch 8 hours of television

What's with these imaginary numbers, Anon?

>teen titans fags have ruined the character so now all he shouts is booyah

>>94517402
The statistics that say Black Americans consume more media? Ok you agree with me.

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So does anyone in the DC Universe date other woman outside their own race? I know Batman/Bruce Wayne has a Asian Girl fetish but I don't think I've ever seen anyone in the family date a black/brown/tan woman. I don't even think Dick, dicked any black girls.

>>94517426
You posted them, how does this work? they're only valid when you use them, but the moment another anon uses them are borked statistics? Damn

>>94516013
Wrong. They don't own the rights, and Milestone is a fucking mess right now. Cyborg is a character they own completely, and was relatively popular with the Titans.

>>94517394
And Cap/Thor/Iron Man being the faces of the industry has only been a thing comparatively recently

In 15 years from now Marvel will be defined by Carol, Groot and Rocket, Gwenpool and Swamp Thing, pending litigation with DC

>>94517454
Barry and Jess kind of had good chemistry, but I think they sank that ship

>>94516233
Normal people know iron man because of black sabbath

Normal people just don't know cyborg

>>94517498
That fucking sucks.

>>94516030
Vixen honestly deserves a bigger push. She could be huge if DC gave her some love. Hell she's a much better choice than Cyborg.

>>94517470
Show me in the article where it says "All 63% of white Americans watch 8 hours of television"

Because I know for a fact that white homeless man down the street isn't watching that much TV.

>>94517454
Hal and John go for alien pusspuss. Guy's heart belongs to Ice. Simon is Muslim, Jessica is going for Barry

>>94517445
Different dude
Compared, pretty important. The average Black person consumes more media thant he average White person. As a group, Whites still consume more media because they're more even though they watch less hours.

I think the problem comes from not finishing the sentences.

>>94515999
In terms of recognition, Storm is easily A-Tier and rivals Jean Grey.

>>94517524
In the same article you posted that says Blacks watch 10 hours of TV/Media, 1.2 times more than the whites

>>94517617
That's 8.333 not 8, retard

>>94517617
So that's all 63% of white Americans like you were originally claiming?

>>94517698
No, I claimed 63% of the population, which are the white part, not 63% of the whites, that was you in here>>94517426
My post here>>94517302 never says 63% of white population

>>94516833
That cartoon ended over a decade ago. John blows

>>94517850
Ok let me rephrase: Are you telling me 63% of the population aka all white Americans is watching 8 hours of television?

>>94516306
>10 hours
My article says different
http://www.statisticbrain.com/television-watching-statistics/

>>94518010
It's in the article you, or another anon, posted

>>94517110
>There is Vixen, but her whole schtick is primitive animal spirit
No one is going to give a shit, blacks want more black heroes with non electricity power sets.

>>94518153
>Still says blacks watch more television

Ok.

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>>94516869
This. Hal is best

>>94517454
They made the West family in the CW Flash show black, so technically Barry has the jungle fever.

>>94518248
The average black person watches more television thant the average white, yes, again, nobody is denying that, for the 1001th time. That's still 13% watching 7 hours against 63% watching 5 hours, guess which amounts more hours and therefore more income? which was my whole point since the begining

>Nobody is denying that
No, fuck it, you're denying that, at least you're trying to make me deny it by putting those words in my posts

>>94517269
I'm gonna wait until Africa and the Middle East empty into Europe, America and Australia and then move there.

>>94518338
>guess which amounts more hours and therefore more income?
Blacks, you literally posted it, they watch 7 hours and whites only 5, 7>5, Blacks. Maths, you should try it.

>>94518338
I can't believe you're actually falling for this shit.

>Anon states blacks watch more TV
>/pol/fags fall over themselves to say whites watch more
>They also want to say whites are more productive since they watch less TV

It's both funny and sad how bad /pol/ wants to be on top.

>>94518338
Your argument is flawed because for the 1001th time you keep assuming all 13% of blacks and all 63% of whites are watching that much TV. I think those studies have accounted for that unlike you. Think with your brain.

>>94518672
This is the electoral college all over again.

>>94518672
>Anon states blacks watch more TV
Nope, he didn't say that, his words were slightly different, try again

>>94518717
>Post article and uses it when it fits his agenda
>When it doesn't dismisses those using the article against him
Genius, you should try politics

>>94518776
I'll relent if you can link me to a post where I said something along the lines of "All 13% of black Americans watch the same amount of TV"

I see you claiming this for whites but I haven''t seen the other claim being made. Why is simple statistics so hard for /pol/ to understand?

Cyborg is one of the worst characters I can think of, on par or worse than Wolverine.

Y'all saw that initial Rebirth panel right? "Cyborg is a member of the Justice League, but he's also a black man living in Detroit." If anyone read that comic please tell me how shit it is.

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>>94515886
>Hey Genos

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>/pol/niggers are getting buttblasted over who watches more fucking TV

>>94518820
I mentioned on average several times, it's hard to keep typing the same shit over and over again, but I see, your sole point right now is that, that I forgot to write average in two, maybe three posts. Congrats, what's next? grammar? typos? that I forgot a period or an apostrophe?

>>94518882
Dude, he basically was baiting you and quoting you wrong on purpose to lead you to this moment, you have been played.

For the rest, stop biting.

>>94518882
On average blacks consume more television than whites.

>>94518820
The wonderful thing about averages is that, when you take the whole group, it becomes exact numbers, so on average 5 hours per white person * number of white people (63% *323.1 M) is an exact number and not an obscure statistic. And that number is higher than 7 hous on average * black population.

>>94518828
It's pretty good, Nothing great but fun scifi adventure at least.

>>94518929
For the 1001th nobody was denying that. That's different to Blacks consume the most TV/Media in US though. Similar, but subtle differences, the wonders of English.

>>94518996
No, it's the same, Blacks consume more tv period, more than anyone period

>>94518955
Dude your math is fucked up. Your argument is STILL based on the notion that these studies encompass every single individual from these groups.

It also doesn't even touch on the fact that not everyone from these populations is watching TV. You know that 63% and 13% also lists infants and the blind? They're not watching TV.

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>94518996
This entire thread you've been stuck on the wording of one post? Fix your fucking autism man. Blacks watch more TV, accept it.

>>94519039
0+5/2 = 2.5
Averages, man, yes, blind people don't watch it, already taken into account in those averages.

Again, using the article you posted in which states black people watch on average 10 hours of media (1.2 more than whites) against you.

>>94519065
And you have been trying to refute it all thread, who is more autist?

>Blacks watch more TV, accept it.
Not the argument even if you're trying super hard to make it the point of the argument. Sorry if you like to move the goalpost that hard, but again, not the point of the argument.

>>94519176
Holy shit, stop replying to him

Because hes cool and has an arm cannon.

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>>94519129
>Averages, man, yes, blind people don't watch it, already taken into account in those averages.

That's not how it works. You're still missing a ton of information to make your claim. I'm doubting you even took a statistics course. Why do you keep trying to apply the small sample size in those articles to these large populations without taking into account all the different variables?

>>94518828
It's a lot like a Silver Age comic actually. Not bad but they should've had a Cyborg comic from the fucking beginning. Johns should've wrote something with Vic to at least give the appearance that Cyborg wasn't just a token.

>>94519176
I'm an autist for defending my statement? It's not my fault you purposely misinterpreted what I said.

>>94516030
>They needed a black hero diversity hire on the League and thanks to the Teen Titans cartoon he was the most obvious choice

You're not completely wrong.

It's actually because Cyborg was on Challenge of the Superfriends and that shit is Geoff Johns's jam.

>>94519329
>Why do you keep trying to apply the small sample size in those articles to these large populations without taking into account all the different variables?

This is a good point. That other Anon isn't taking this into account and it's useless to keep debating him unless you two want to take those studies and retool them to encompass the entire black and white populations of the US.

>>94519378
>Is not my fault that when I write stuff wrong people misinterprete it

>>94516030
My brother autistically hates Vixen because he thinks she's screwing Animal Man out of the spotlight.

>>94519423
I didn't write anything wrong. You saw what I wrote and read the articles. Context clues should have given you an idea of what I meant. I'm sorry your parents gave you autism when they vaccinated you.

>>94519329
>Says articles take everything into account when it fits his agenda
>Dimisses them when it doesn't
Not him but seriously politics, it's your thing

>>94519459
No, saying one thing and then defending another is called goal post moving. Sorry you played that in school instead of actual sports.

>>94519465
>"I cant into reading comprehension"

How does it feel being a brainlet?

>>94519526
>If I type brainlet enough times that will make them forget I fucked up
Nope, doesn't work, try a few hundred more, maybe then

>>94519502
>Black Americans consume the most TV/Movies in the US

Is what I said. I'm sorry I didn't put "compared to other ethnic groups" to help your autism. Lets cut the shit, this whole argument is just you trying to prove in a roundabout way that whites watch more television because of some stupid inferiority complex you have. You knew what I meant and are latching onto anything you can to make yourself look less like an autist.

>>94519560
Ok brainlet. You still cant into reading comprehension.

>>94519629
Going to try something new inspired by your level of debate.
>cant

>>94516869
It's not about what you want, or even what is best. It's affirmative action.

>>94519653
Brainlet.

>>94519765
98 to go
Japanese asiatic clam harvester man is cheering for you

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>>94519429
They're both blocking Beast Boy from moving up

>>94516030
They could've fufilled the black hero diversity with Martian Manhunter though

>>94519974
MM isn't Black

>>94519974
Martian Manhunter is a green shapeshifting alien.

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>>94519429
Buddy doesnt get enough love these days. Him and Vixen should get more of a push
>>94519797
Im just going to come out and say it, but Beast Boy fucking sucks. Hell Id even rank B'wana Beast over him

>>94516869
Oh sure, let me just call Reynolds up, tell him we have another cutout green screen that he can fuck around in again.

Nigga

>>94515886
He was fine in the teen titans cartoon. Every other appearance I see him in it seems like he was designed to be as bland as possible. Its like his whole character can be summed up as "guy with robot parts". Like shit, there are actual robots with more personality than him.

>>94516834
>The Thor/Cap Am/Iron Man trifecta is a very recent thing.
It's from almost the start been the core of the Avengers, and in-universe the Avengers have always been considered the top-tier superheroes. Even by other characters whose books sold way better at the time.

>>94520678
I didn't know it was possible to be this retarded, your level of degeneracy astounds me

>>94516183
>Would you rather they make Superman, Flash or Batman black? That's the alternative to drafting Cyborg into the League.
John Stewart still exists. And is more popular than Cyborg.

>>94521016
Stay mad Beast Boyfag. Go back to your cartoon and pretend he isnt a 3rd rate warrior of the Red.

>>94516869
Why would I have either of those two when you can have Guy?

>>94515886
>Be a cyborg
>Be named Cyborg
Please tell me someone got fired over this. So idiotic.

>>94517436
He hasn't done that in years

>>94521152
Morrison fag detected

Animal Man < Beast Boy

>>94515916
Spider-Man, Captain America, Iron-man,

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>>94521217
>Seriously trying to argue that Garfield is somehow better than Buddy
How can one man be so wrong and have such shit taste?

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>>94517158
>wolverine crosses his claws

Pfft, sure thing.

>>94516030

I know she's been in the JLA for a couple of incarnations, but I really cant see her as main leaguer. she was so much better as a member of Task Force X.

Millennials who watched CN know about Victor Stone. This makes him a B-Lister.

>>94515916
>Calling Spawn C-tier

Slit your throat

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>>94516460
>liberals try to defend with "wahhh, I don't believe the statistics, they're old/not cited correctly!!"
>DETROIT, you two-faced cunt

>>94515886
He is pretty much just the diversity pick. Now that GL is Baz and Cruz though he is redundant. He isn't even worthwhile as the tech guy since Bats always fulfilled that role better than him. They are better off replacing him with a magic user like Dr. Fate or Zatanna.

>>94516460
Huh, I wonder what the point of this post was
>>94521599
>old Statistics are old statistics
>/pol/: NO THERE NOT!1!1 LOOK AT THIS GRAPH FROM 1947!!! BLACKS DEBUNKED HAHA XD!1!1


>>>/pol/

>>94515886
Because people bitched so much about comics and movies changing characters' races saying "you've got existing black characters! Use them and stop this fucking race switching shit"

So DC took the advice and began boosting one of their existing black characters instead of making Batman black or something.

>>94515886

Theoretically Cyborg is one of the strongest characters in the DCU

Prove me wrong

>>94522431
Why is he always reduced to a torso then?

>>94522477
The same reason Worf always loses a fight in Star Trek. It's the writers' way of trying to convince the audience how big a threat someone is.

>>94522477
Because of Plastic Man-tier bad writing

There's no one stopping Cyborg from chimping out and starting a World War or hacking Russia and the US and launching multiple nukes at every Justice League member and then boom tubing to another dimension

Or better yet, boom tubing into the past since he knows how

>>94522594

Batman planned for this and secretly replaced the nukes warheads in advance.

>>94522740
Cyborg created undetectable warheads underneath those warheads that Batman wasn't able to detect with his inferior technology

>>94516606
You're forgetting the part where Geoff Johns is the biggest Hal Jordan fanboy out there.

>>94517347
>I don't think Wonder Woman is really seen as the token chick in most cases.
She is.

>>94515999
Lol didn't she win the popularity contest against WW?

>>94515911
What's sad is black superheroes aren't diverse at all

It's either AFRIKA theme or electric/techno theme.

>>94523596
Yeah like 20 year ago

>>94516538
Well she was when she's the only female

>>94517096
No joke, I was waiting for the Native American dude in Wonder Woman to reveal himself as Apache Chief,

Hell, I woulda settled for him using "Inukshuk" as a sorta mantra or good luck charm.

>>94523800
YOu know, I rarely hear any sand nigger hero. Only one is khan and that's about it.

I want one. Not camel spider man or some bullshit

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Why not a cool hero like firestorm?

>>94515886
I couldn't even tell you a thing about Cyborg as a comic character beside he played football once. Like, what even are the definitive Cyborg character arcs? What's his rogue gallery like? Who's his support cast when he's not busy being the Justice League's bus or the Teen Titan's token black? What does he do in his off time besides hitting showers and eating pizza? Has he even ever had a solo run in his entire career?

Why didn't New 52 just replace Barry with a Black flash? Why bring Barry back at all when they could have replaced him with a black person and it would actually make sense?

>>94517454
batman has dated black women i remember jezebel and some other women in the 80s.

>>94523839
Simon Baz, and he's cool

>>94517454
Dick dicked an orange girl

>>94515886

Why shouldn't they promote him?

>>94523800
Sounding triggered there.

>>94515886
Why not? He only replaced Martian Manhunter, a D-Tier hero at best. Cyborg fills the monitor nanny role better than J'onn ever did.

>>94516030
>mfw TTG of all things made her look better

>>94515886
Gotta check

to make ze boom tubes

>>94517113
Go watch young justice.

>>94517347

She still is the token girl when she's the only female member. You can't escape the optics of it.

>>94517454

Mr Terrific and Power Girl used to bang during early months of New 52, triggered /co/ pretty hard.

>>94516869
t. Johns

>>94515886
He's the latest in a long line of black heroes DC tries to push. Among others are Steel, Mr Terrific and Static Shock. When Cyborg fails, some new black guy will be put in the justice league and all the animated movies

Will he say booyah?

>>94516030
The logical choice would have been just to push John Stewart (the only reason anyone under 40 cares about the Justice League is the cartoon) but we needed to have Hal because clearly catering to Geoff Johns's fanboy autism should be DC's most important priority

>>94519974
Alternately they could have done this, yes

>>94515886
He was my favorite character in the cartoon. "The Sum of His Parts" is also the best episode. But why is it in the Justice League clips we've seen he seems totally fucking emotionless?

>>94526369
That would require anyone behind the push to actually like the character and not just be doing it because they need a token and they don't want to disrupt characters they actually care about so no

>>94516460
>>94521599
>>94521599
Statistics prove blacks are given harsher sentences compared to white counter parts. So it's safe to say that even though these "stats" might be true. They as in blacks are being framed for crimes.

>>94515960
lol this delusion

>>94516206
That image genuinly makes me think.

>>94516071
All of those are C tiers.

>>94515960
Then why aren't Iron man and ant man A listers now?

>>94516013
What a shockingly original opinion.

>>94526813
Iron Man isn't A-list? Seriously?

>>94523847
Most people who know firestorm prefer the Ronnie + Stein combo.

>>94515886
Because DC deemed the league in need of a "tech" hero since they're pushing Batman to be out in the field so much.

Originally the role would've gone to Martian Manhunter, but they also want to fill a diversity quota.

>>94516700
The thumbnail made me think that was XRA.

>>94516047
Iron Man was one of the original members of The Avengers
>DCuck delusion

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>>94515886
I wouldn't mind Cyborg if he didn't replace muh nigga J'onn

>>94527471
Not in comics

>>94516183
Or, you know. They could just not have a token nigger...

>>94515886
Because the alternative is to "diversify" their heroes à la Marvel. Do you really want black Superman, trans Wonder Woman, and differently abled Flash?

>>94521217
Hey don't lump us Morrisonfags with the likes of him. I'm actually surpused that Morrison never took a crack at beast boy, considering beast boy would seem right up his alley.

>>94523748
>spawn
>US Soldier turned hells warrior
Speaking of, theres been a lot of McFarlane shit goin on lately. Is he trying to score a comeback or what?

>>94526663
>Statistics prove blacks are given harsher sentences compared to white counter parts.
That's because repeat offenses come with harsher sentences.

>>94530486
this

It's better to use charaters you have then to make everybody DIVERSE because you can. Also cyborg is cool as fuck shut the fuck up OP

>>94515886
>muh Teen Titans
Ironically, no one likes Cyborg on the Justice League precisely because people only want him as a Titan.

Put it this way: Do you want the same superheroes or do you want some new blood? Maybe these C-listers can become B and A-listers with enough promotion and push from DC. Funny how people complain about stagnation yet when the opportunity arrives for change, they reject it.

Oh well.

>>94532298
This is the reason why they keep changing character's races instead of highlighting the more obscure characters that fulfill their imagined quotas.

>>94523847
Firestorm is too OP to be featured in any kind of media, even capeshit. The character would have to act like a complete retard to make any sort of story possible

>>94515886
He has no good rogues gallery.

>>94530486
I'd like to believe that DC isn't so incompetent that the only alternative for them is to go the Marvel route.
>>94532085
Cyborg is fucking lame, the only people who genuinely care about him are cartoon fags and they're not even being given that version of the character.

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>>94516030
>Mister Terrific

hes literally a Jojo character but DC doesnt know it. Until some writer realizes this Mr Terrific will be boring for a looooooooonnnng time.

>>94516460

>cites a source you can't even open

h'okay then

i love how butt hurt people get over cyborg.

>>94534567
Why?

>>94533058
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43 here you go and keep in mind that "white" includes hispanics too

>>94516183
I always considered Martian Manhunter to be his own kind of token minority character.

>>94532717
They should follow suit with Injustice and make Deathstroke his arch-nemesis

>>94515886
I actually think he has a lot of potential, TT showed that several times when he wasn't being funny. easily my favorite of the group.

>>94516460
>ironically

You're using that word wrong.

>>94516887
>Iolande
>Not Arisia