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Bleeding Cool can't handle Twitter Trolls

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/08/06/comics-serious-problem-trolls/
>"Note: I am not going to name names here. This article isn’t about playing the shame game, and I will not be calling any particular individual out, but I most certainly will be discussing the kind of harassment and offensive dialogue that has sprung up in comics, or at the very least become far more visible, through the advent of social media."
"I won't point single out one individual, just this group of individuals."
>"However, it [social media] has also made it easier for those who would dissent to change to find and target those they feel are ruining “their” comics. And certainly of late, we have seen female creators and editors and trans creators and editors face an insane amount of hate, irrational thinking and vile speech — and yet the perpetrators have faced little to no reprimanding."
We don't care about your gender or what color you are, we just hate it when they shove their agenda in our face.
>"This is especially true of Twitter, which continues to allow users to harass trans comics creators. A major part of this may be freedom of speech laws, especially in the US, which arguably have not yet caught up to modern technologies."
Freedom of Speech isn't a law, it's a constitutional right for every U.S. Citizen.
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>>94480727
>"Because since the advent of the internet, people could anonymously throw out their hatred and bile without fear."
I think he's talking about Reddit.
>"With the advent of social media, this became a more difficult situation, as this [fandom] element now had access to make their statements not just into the either, but targeted at individuals and groups. They got to see themselves as digital gatekeepers “protecting their community” from the outsiders — instead of welcoming new insights, new fans, and potentially new friends."
We don't hate new fans, we hate the shit writers taking over the industry and the people in charge making dumbass decisions.
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>>94480767
>"The trolls of the internet probably feel safe in speaking their minds as they do, as the creators they idolise often do the same. There have been a number of creators who have publicly via social media made troll like comments themselves, whether it be making fun of fans who are concerned with the direction of a story or shutting them down for expressing concerns from a different viewpoint; actually threatening critics or calling them idiots or liars because they have a distaste for the site they work for or other writers at that site, or merely didn’t like a review or article they wrote; or expressing social or political views that previously they would have kept to themselves. And publishers have been few and far between in any kind of reprimand against this action."
Once again, it's called "Freedom of Speech".
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>>94480811
>"This may be the biggest problem facing comics right now. If the tolls gatekeeping the community persist, it will continue to put off new people from wanting to join the community, even despite the best efforts or creators and publishers. We need to foster an environment where this kind of hatred; this kind of ownership, this kind of moral wasteland can no longer be permissible."
Looking for an online safe space? Try tumblr.
>"But we cannot allow that to continue. We cannot allow the validation of attacking and hurting minorities, or indeed anyone."
When did we start hating minorities in the comic industry?
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>>94480727
Bleeding Cool or the gay wrote the article must be gayfags
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>>94480727
>WHY IS NOT OUR SHIT ACCEPTED AND CELEBRATED?

cause it is shit.
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You sound salty, OP.
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>>94480842
>Looking for an online safe space? Try tumblr.
Tumblr is more vicious than 4chan at this point.
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>>94480918
When did that happen?
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>>94480918

>at this point

It's been that way for quite a while.
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>>94480928
When teenagers have been sending child porn to people who make fan art.

Because the fan art they make "supports pedophilia"

And they prove they're so against pedophilia they send actual child porn to people who make fanart.

Tumblr is a cabal of sociopaths who value fictional characters over real human beings.
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>>94480968
Wait what? I haven't heard about this. Actual child porn?
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>>94481001
YYYYYEP. All because of Voltron Klance fanart.

Because it's "pro pedophilia"
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All I know is that if it's determined that Trump has been violating free speech laws by blocking people on Twitter, that could theoretically set a precedent to disallow any sort of blocking/muting function on Twitter and other websites as doing so impedes upon free speech in general.

>>94480968
>>94481001
>>94481014
I wonder if Verizon will try to sell back Tumblr after the buyout of Yahoo is complete.
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>>94481036
Fuckin who'd buy it?
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>>94481053
The guy who made the site in the first place, maybe. It's been done before.

Regardless, whoever buys it will probably get it at a bargain.
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its funny how little euros care about freedom of speech. it seems especially tone deaf coming from someone who supposed to report entirely on written fiction.
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>>94480928
The userbase once launched a campaign to drive a girl to suicide because she drew a SU character with the 'wrong' skin tone.
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>>94480727
>twitter

alt+f4
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>>94480727
>A major part of this may be freedom of speech laws, especially in the US, which arguably have not yet caught up to modern technologies.
Why are Britbongs so fascist?
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People are shit on social media, what's new? That said if you are one of these faggots posting le epic bait on twitter or whatever you are a guaranteed cunt and should neck yourself.
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>>94483535
How will these pieces of shit learn their place then?
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>>94481036
>All I know is that if it's determined that Trump has been violating free speech laws by blocking people on Twitter
Twitter isn't a government platform, I don't know how any serious court of law could find this true.
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>>94480727
>"Note: I am not going to name names here. This article isn’t about playing the shame game, and I will not be calling any particular individual out, but I most certainly will be discussing the kind of harassment and offensive dialogue that has sprung up in comics, or at the very least become far more visible, through the advent of social media."

Based on the articles he wrote against Chaykin on Bleeding Cool, would that also mean he's calling himself out?
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>>94480727
>reeee I won't be silenced let me shitpost
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>>94484882
Yes, but it's ok since he's a reporter and not a troll.
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The best part of it is that this was written by Joe Glass, the same Joe Glass who wants to content police writers over political issues regardless of context within a story and wrote a scathing hate article over how bad it was that Howard Chaykin didn't buckle and give in to the demands of people who were attacking him on twitter.

He's a hypocrit.
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>>94480727
>>94484976
From Joe Glass's twitter:
>"Gotta love when you write an article about trolls about how we need to make the discourse more open and acceptable and the responses? People calling you stupid, ignorant, an "SJW" (like that's a bad thing) and even making videos about how you are trash."
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>>94485124
Oh no, people called him stupid and ignorant!

How can that be, he only called for a repeal of the first ammendment to deal with online trolls people can simply ignore at will, and doesn't understand the difference between a twitter troll telling a writer to quit and him using his platform to demand writers quit.

How could anyone think this guy was ignorant or stupid? It's baffling.
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>>94485124
He's a cry-bully.

He calls an entire community trash, demands they have their rights stripped, and then plays the victim when people tell him he's a dumbass.
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>>94485178
>he only called for a repeal of the first amendment to deal with online trolls
The worst part is he thinks freedom of speech is a law that can be changed to fit the times. Now last time I checked, it can't be changed because it's a constitutional right, and the laws are meant to protect our constitutional rights. Did something change overnight?
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>>94480727
I seriously hate these fags. They live on social media and believe that it is everything and are such emotionally fragile children that they can't handle dissent or criticism. Even "trolling" wouldn't be a problem if you'd just fucking ignore it.

>b-b-but my notifications

TURN THEM OFF or even better delete any Twitter and Facebook apps from the phone, check them on a laptop or desktop or tablet or something. Social media is cultural AIDS.
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>>94485292
>TURN THEM OFF or even better delete any Twitter and Facebook apps from the phone
And he could start blocking people.
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>>94485124
I love that he made the pride the worst lgbt related book I've seen it fucking tops america and it makes gay people look awful.
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>>94485287
It can be changed via constitutional ammendment, but it would require massive congressional support and no one would broach that subject with a thousand foot pole.

>>94485292
Its been pointed out repeatedly before that most of this would stop being as prevalent if these people would just maintain a private social media account and a professional account, and stop trying to merge their private lives with their professional accounts.

No politics on your professional account, no shitflinging. Go to town on your private account.
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>>94485336
>I've seen it fucking tops America
I find that hard to believe. What's it about?
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relevant
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>>94485358
It's "I'M GAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY" the book. It's pathetic and I say that as a gay dude myself.
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>>94480918
A site made up largely of women and teenage girls who are obsessed with attention and romanticize mental illness is full of viciousness you say?
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>>94485363
Guess @PoKeMoN666 found the bitches.
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>>94483660

>he thinks people are going to have some kind of life-changing epiphany because someone on the internet called them a faggot

whatever happened to shitposting for fun instead of shitposting to be some kind of faggoty moral crusader
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>>94485419
>A site made up of large women and teenage girls
Fixed it.
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>>94485415
I feel so bad for the regular gay folks because of how the PRIDE gay folks make them all look.

Most of them are regular people who just like the same sex, and it's not the core of their identity. People don't notice them because they are just like everyone else.

But no, gotta have a bunch of guys wearing leather straps and painted like rainbows grind each other and scream about how this is what gay lifestyle is actually like.
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>>94480727
>"This is especially true of Twitter, which continues to allow users to harass trans comics creators. A major part of this may be freedom of speech laws, especially in the US, which arguably have not yet caught up to modern technologies."
>Freedom of Speech isn't a law, it's a constitutional right for every U.S. Citizen.

twitter as a private entity can choose what can and can't be said. Why the fuck do amerifats constantly forget this.
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>>94485499
American here, our education system requires at least one course in American Government so that you should know how this crap works before you graduate high school.

I really don't understand why so many people seem totally oblivious to EVERYTHING to do with our laws and government, other than they just never really gave a shit and don't want to know.
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>>94485540
Is this Joe Glass guy not American or is he just that stupid?
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>>94485540

>american "education"
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>>94485564
He's just stupid and from Wales.
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>>94485612
Ahmad pls
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>>94485612
Take out black schools or mostly black schools and the US ranks much higher.
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>>94480767
>instead of welcoming new insights, new fans, and potentially new friends."

As if there are any new fans.

60% of Squirrel Girl readers are standard Marvel readers, dudes in their 50s.

"New readers" are a mythical construct, like Ms Marvel's #1 digital sales numbers and Moon Girl sales figures from "all those bookfairs".
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