HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>94476009

Good.

Fuck SJW Marvel.

I'm not buying shit until the president of the company offers a formal written apology for America Chavez.

It's because they tried to make money playing both sides and they ended up getting burned.

>>94476009
Hugbox of Ideas

So let me get this straight. The new Marvel characters aren't succeeding because people online are attacking them?

>>94476036
You're gonna wait for a long time. I'm still waiting for that retraction of OMD.

I remember when the advice for combating trolls included getting thicker skin.

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>>94476009
>Our awful company that produces shit is going under
>WHAT DO WE DO?
>I DON'T KNOW MAN, BLAME THE FANS HARDER, GUILT TRIPS ALWAYS WORK ON US LOW-TEST MANLETS, MAYBE IT WILL WORK ON THEM TOO
bravo, marvel.

>>94476166
Or ignoring it entirely. Social Media has really fucked with peoples minds

>>94476009
this is about diversity & comics making mean videos, isn't it?

>>94476009
Well at least he is talking about the creators themselves being retarded on twitter.

From what i gather from this article...it's saying... people who already weren't going to buy the comics didn't buy the comics, and it's their fault that the comics didn't get bought, even though comics weren't made for them, nor were they included in the demographic for the annual outlook. but the intended target audiences didn't buy anything either. ...but THAT is the fault of the people who were already not going to buy anything??

Is this a conspiracy?

Anyone got that tyler the creator quote? only tangentially relevant but still rules to live by.

>>94476009
JUST WRITE GOOD COMICS.

I'LL READ SHIT EVEN IF IT GOES AGAINST MY POLITICAL BELIEFS IF IT'S ENJOYABLE. BUT AS YOU'VE PROVEN YOU FIND IT HARD TO DO POLITICS, PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BEST TO AVOID IT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL. WHICH IS AS FOLLOWS:

JUST WRITE GOOD COMICS .

>>94476346
To marvel, it isn't possible to admit that they had a market strategy that failed. That would mean admitting that they need to change in order to address it.
They're going to double down until their entire company gets bought wholesale by Disney, I bet. At that point I wouldn't be surprised if there is no longer a Marvel comics, but instead a Marvel spiderman, Thor, Capt. America, and Iron Man quarterly.

>>94476383
Honestly? This would be better.

>>94476373
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

>>94476009
Wow so writing non-stop outrage bait produced a large number of hecklers? Who would have POSSIBLY predicted that outcome?

>>94476009
Anybody have that pic where Alonso or Brevoort said they prefer angry fans?

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>>94476373
I Got you senpai

The actual article was about how comic stores and social media were not "safe-enough" spaces for newer read female and brown audiences to enter the fandom. Which is bullshit. It had little to do with sales actually and I'm sure this guy doesn't care about that anyway.

Right-wing dissent will be dead in a few years anyway. Google's new youtube "limited state" policy will utterly BTFO the right and ensure 1,000 years of leftist domination

>snowflakes can't take some bantz

>>94476491
>hahahaha righties btfo censorship always works, it's never failed the left in the past!!!!!
I actually hope Youtube does go full gestapo, because I'd like a competing service to pop up.

>>94476009
Oh look: Another shitpost thread to attack anyone who wants to provide actual pro-comics content.
And Christ! This public slander with the clear intent to harm Marvel's business is literally criminal.
Way to not do your jobs mods.

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>>94476009
Feels damn good.

>>94476597
just like an alternative to reddit popped up after tehy purged the right

How's posting memes with pedos on dead voat boards going?

>Comics felt inaccessible to minorities, women, and POC for years due to a) a perceived lack of their presence in the material and b) a threatening, unsafe feeling generated in comics spaces, whether through language used or the perceived glares of those admitted into that world.
I am brown, I am Mexican, and I've always loved Spider-Man since I was a kid, it seriously baffles me when the American minorities are said to be these special snowflakes that can't get into anything because somehow it's racist to them. I just don't udnerstand what kind of retard you have to be to be deeply offended for this or whatever.

Yeah, I get hyped out when my country gets a mention, or a character is from here, but I do not enjoy my favorite characters getting swept under the rug in favour of these progressive replacements.
I certainly wasn't pleased when Sam Alexander popped out of nowhere and was annoyingly pushed the fuck out whiler Richard Rider stayed dead. The America Chavez solo fucking offends me, and not because it has shitty shoehorned broken spanish every other line, but because the writing it's fucking shit. So, yeah whoever who wrote that can go fuck himself for all I care.

>>94476009
I'm surprised they didn't blame the Russians.

>>94476491
>Leftists need to censor opponents in order to not lose arguments
This doesn't exactly say anything good about your side, anon.

>>94476646
>e America Chavez solo fucking offends me


Someone brought up that's she's not even Latina, she's a being from another dimension appropriating the culture. That's the poster hero they're trying to sell.

>>94476009
"hear"

>>94476671
I'm not arguing for anything. I'm just saying, the right is going to absolutely die once youtube is lost.

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>>94476009
>A major part of this may be freedom of speech laws, especially in the US, which arguably have not yet caught up to modern technologies.

>>94476697
>not arguing for anything
You're clearly arguing that you and those who share your political views should be able to silence others just because they disagree with your views. And not only that, you're obviously proud of such a despicable practice.

>>94476619
Oh look: A wild Marvel employee made their way to the party. Before you drown in your own tears tell us on scale of 1 to 10 how big is the but hurt at your office?

Also speaking of not doing a job...

>>94476638
>purged the right
last I checked, Reddit still has every right-wing board on their site.
But I don't visit Reddit like you do, so you clearly have more experience on how Reddit is like. Maybe you should go back there.

>>94476646
> it seriously baffles me when the American minorities are said to be these special snowflakes that can't get into anything because somehow it's racist to them. I just don't udnerstand what kind of retard you have to be to be deeply offended for this or whatever.
That's the thing, no one is like this. People want the superheroes they grew up with.

Which is why when they shove Cancerthor or Captain Dyke into everything; it ends with sales collapsing. They're marketing to a demographic that exists only in their mind at this point.

>>94476339
I wonder if Capn Cummings is butthurt his little protege is getting all the attention he wanted.

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>>94476778
You already know that on a scale of 1 to 10, butthurt at Marvel right now must be pushing 100.
I'm amazed they don't have employees throwing themselves out of windows to escape the eventual axing that their entire offices are going to receive.

>There are people who thought this was seriously a good marketing strategy.

>>94476247
You, sir, speak the unvarnished truth.

>>94476681
The trouble is she was Latina first. Then Gillen went all retarded and had to make every character in his book gay and connected to the Gay King Wiccan

>>94476856
It's a shame because I can't actually stand Diversity&Cmx, he coughs like a triple-smoker when he talks, and he has lots of awkward pauses and impediments that prevent him from speaking clearly.
People trash e-celebs, but clear, audible public speaking is a skill that people take for granted.

>>94476856
That cuntnis fucking annoying but C&D doesn't know what he's talking about half the time and does everything in a shitty way. I'm actually surprised he still has a patron because harassing people is a violation of service. Something sarkkan had to deal with when anita called him a piece of shit person.

>>94476346
The thesis was that the comic creators and the core fanbase was racist. By choosing more diverse creators, and making more diverse products, new markets would open up.

It seems that politicizing the power structures, from editorial, to creative choices, to the press, to the awards ceremonies didn't actually make the product any more appealing to either the existing market or the new target market.

>>94476009
>No, not rebirths, retcons, or reboots (or perpetual event comics)

Really? Are you really sure that isn't the problem? Because that seems more of a serious problem than """"trolls""".

I'd also add constant relaunches, constant #1s, constant variant covers, giving books to characters that don't sell, synergy, purposely increasing the prices on comics too high, not telling people a mini-series is a mini and making retailers/readers gamble on it, shipping extra issues to retailers that didn't order them and making them pay for the extra issue they did not order, lying to retailers, constant late issues, poor editorial, terrible art, and terrible writing/story decisions.

Maybe if they stopped doing all that then there would be less "Trolls"

>>94476422
This is pretty stupid. Yeah you can "turn it off" but by doing that the bullies win. They've denied you access to a service.
It's like saying just don't eat lunch because bullies keep stealing your lunch money at school.

>>94476924
Your metaphor is stupid, and you are so ignorant of the basic functionality of twitter and other social media that it's not worth addressing.

It's EXACTLY that kind of retardation that powered the GG block list and shit like it,
that ban people based on the shit they read.

>>94476909
>I'm actually surprised he still has a patron because harassing people is a violation of service.

There's probably some clause they're arguing over. Something like technically his patreon is for the videos and he harasses for free.

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>>94476924
What Bully anon? Where has there ever been a bully?

>>94476710
I thought these people hated Facism and oppression like Trump. Yet I constantly seem them wanting to turn everything into 1984.

>>94476697
>the right is going to absolutely die once youtube is lost.

The net is vast and infinite.

>>94476924
>Yeah you can "turn it off" but by doing that the bullies win. They've denied you access to a service.
>It's like saying just don't eat lunch because bullies keep stealing your lunch money at school.
No, that's not what it means. It means turning it off by ignoring words, because words can't hurt you, no matter how mean they are.

>>94476009
> 4chan
> Trolls
I don't see it

>>94476924
>Yeah you can "turn it off" but by doing that the bullies win.

Win what? If something is annoying an individual so much they're freaking out then the "bully" already won. Taking a break is what they need.

>>94476924
>It's like saying just don't eat lunch because bullies keep stealing your lunch money at school.

Hey, it worked for me!

>>94476710
There are legit lawyers and groups pushing for limitations on freedom of speech now because it 'does more harm than good'

Brave New World soon comrade. I've enjoyed the golden age with you all, but soon it will be over.

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>>94476009
theoretically if they were to name names, what names would they name?

>>94476009
Posting so no one has to click the link
>There’s something rotten in the world of comics. It’s something I’ve noticed for a very long time, sadly, but the last few weeks has seen it feel even worse. Maybe even the last year, emboldened by the kind of discourse pervading our world now, even down to our politics and societal structures. That problem is, simply put: trolls.
>No, not rebirths, retcons, or reboots (or perpetual event comics) — no, the problem with comics has become a frankly toxic element of discourse that has pervaded every section of comics, from fandom, commentary to critical elements — and even the creators and publishers themselves.
>Note: I am not going to name names here. This article isn’t about playing the shame game, and I will not be calling any particular individual out, but I most certainly will be discussing the kind of harassment and offensive dialogue that has sprung up in comics, or at the very least become far more visible, through the advent of social media.
>After all, there has probably always been a negative element. The idea of gatekeepers to the comics community and fandom is hardly new. It’s what led to all those offensive stereotypes of comics fans as fat, balding, middle-aged white men living in their mothers’ basements — because it was happening. Comics felt inaccessible to minorities, women, and POC for years due to a) a perceived lack of their presence in the material and b) a threatening, unsafe feeling generated in comics spaces, whether through language used or the perceived glares of those admitted into that world.

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>>94477128
>The why of this, why would they be like this, is largely a simple psychological response: they are made to feel powerless in the world, and unfortunately a natural inclination for humans, a very base response, is to “reclaim” some of that power by passing along those feelings of powerlessness to someone they feel they can — such as individuals or groups new to the area or community, or who are themselves seeking a safe space. Think about that for a second: this is basically the entire discourse of the wider social and political world at the moment too, a behaviour purposefully manipulated on a larger scale outside of the comics community. What we are seeing in comics is perhaps a microcosm of that.
>But social media seems to have magnified things to a scale hitherto unseen, and it is perhaps all the more horrifying to see because we are at a time when those women, POC, and minorities are at least being attempted to be brought into the comics community.
>After all, social media has done many great things. It has made access to creators, publishers, and the fandom so much easier, and has played roles no doubt in helping some of these newer, more diverse voices from becoming beacons in the community — whether it be at a creative level, critical level, or fandom level.
>However, it has also made it easier for those who would dissent to change to find and target those they feel are ruining “their” comics. And certainly of late, we have seen female creators and editors and trans creators and editors face an insane amount of hate, irrational thinking and vile speech — and yet the perpetrators have faced little to no reprimanding.

>"In the majority of cases, while some of the things they are saying are so morally vile and objectionable, they have not broken any of the protections built into the sacrosanct laws of freedom of speech — they have not incited violence or unsafe physical situations (or at least not in a legally provable sense); they have not said anything that would be deemed obscene (they often avoid swearing or crass imagery, though not always); and they do not say anything that could be construed as legally libellous or slanderous."

>"From this standpoint, Twitter can stand behind a wall of “they have the right to say these things”, no matter the moral implications or repercussions. They might try to argue that shutting them all down is not possible, but we know this isn’t true. After all, any account that is perceived to have any remotely Nazi content or imagery is banned in Germany…where such things are illegal and would see Twitter getting sued."

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” - C.S. Lewis

>>94477163
>This is especially true of Twitter, which continues to allow users to harass trans comics creators. A major part of this may be freedom of speech laws, especially in the US, which arguably have not yet caught up to modern technologies. In the majority of cases, while some of the things they are saying are so morally vile and objectionable, they have not broken any of the protections built into the sacrosanct laws of freedom of speech — they have not incited violence or unsafe physical situations (or at least not in a legally provable sense); they have not said anything that would be deemed obscene (they often avoid swearing or crass imagery, though not always); and they do not say anything that could be construed as legally libellous or slanderous.
>From this standpoint, Twitter can stand behind a wall of “they have the right to say these things”, no matter the moral implications or repercussions. They might try to argue that shutting them all down is not possible, but we know this isn’t true. After all, any account that is perceived to have any remotely Nazi content or imagery is banned in Germany…where such things are illegal and would see Twitter getting sued.
>But while to some extent comics has always had this problem of toxic environments, let’s not forget that old stereotype: such examples were usually socially awkward themselves and would not express these views publicly. Of course, this is another element where technology came into play and changed things.
>Because since the advent of the internet, people could anonymously throw out their hatred and bile without fear. It emboldened such voices to finally speak up loudly, and they sure as hell did so. While it may forever be impossible to measure the size of this element of fandom, it can’t be denied that this element is loud.

>>94477128
>Posting so no one has to click the link
Appreciate the effort, but that's what the archive link is for. It prevents the site from getting clicks.

>>94477194
>With the advent of social media, this became a more difficult situation, as this element now had access to make their statements not just into the either, but targeted at individuals and groups. They got to see themselves as digital gatekeepers “protecting their community” from the outsiders — instead of welcoming new insights, new fans, and potentially new friends.
>This element continues to grow and get bolder too, and this is in large part not due to laws not catching up with new technology — but rather with the publishers and creators themselves not catching up with an ever changing audience and an ever-changing time.
>The trolls of the internet probably feel safe in speaking their minds as they do, as the creators they idolise often do the same. There have been a number of creators who have publicly via social media made troll like comments themselves, whether it be making fun of fans who are concerned with the direction of a story or shutting them down for expressing concerns from a different viewpoint; actually threatening critics or calling them idiots or liars because they have a distaste for the site they work for or other writers at that site, or merely didn’t like a review or article they wrote; or expressing social or political views that previously they would have kept to themselves. And publishers have been few and far between in any kind of reprimand against this action.

>>94477212
>While the ability social media gives fans to feel a greater connection to their favourite creators is one thing, it has also allowed the trolls element to feel safe in their aggressive, threatening messages because they see people in places of “authority” within their community get away with it, too.
>Comics, then, has come to accidentally nurture this environment, even when it has worked against them. Even when it leads to movements pushing back against the trolls such as #MakeMineMilkshake, they simply move on to the next group that they perceive as unprotected
>This may be the biggest problem facing comics right now. If the tolls gatekeeping the community persist, it will continue to put off new people from wanting to join the community, even despite the best efforts or creators and publishers. We need to foster an environment where this kind of hatred; this kind of ownership, this kind of moral wasteland can no longer be permissible.
>And this really should be done from top down. What needs to be found is a way of turning these examples of bad behaviour into an actual conversation. And I do not mean by the minorities or communities being affected — it is not the job of these groups to educate trolls; they are spending enough time dealing with the fallout and trying to live their lives. Rather, as a community we should not just rally towards showing support, but also towards seeding change — not just of opinions and hearts and minds, but of the nature of the conversation away from an environment of exploitative and reactionary poop-flinging and towards mature, stable, and reasoned conversation that is open to new viewpoints.

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>>94476167
Fucking disgusting

>>94477244
>We have seen examples again on the wider stage of where the discourse of the world has moved away from healthy debate and education and towards this new paradigm of statements designed to send people into a rage, preventing all reasonable conversation. The reason for such discourse is clear: it’s self-serving. You get to hear your own voice and opinion, and then watch the rabble as those it’s offended because of the way it was delivered vent and rage — and speaks to the primal element of those who agree with you. It is designed to eliminate reason in favour of the instant gratification of having your own thoughts “validated”.
>But we cannot allow that to continue. We cannot allow the validation of attacking and hurting minorities, or indeed anyone. We need the comics community to change — and it is all of our responsibility to work on that.

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>>94477014
that's not what /r9k/ said anon ! Do you mean I can, like, ignore people on the internet???!

>>94477097
>Brave New World soon comrade.
We'll all be invited to the orgy porgy, though...
...R-right?

>>94476009
I though "Angry Readers" were good though?

>>94477112
Diversity and Comics
The Hacker known as 4chan
Trump
Doug TenNapel
Fox News
Putin

>>94477322
Of course Anon. We can’t do without any one. Even Epsilons are useful. We couldn’t do without Epsilons. Every one works for every one else. We can’t do without any one...

>be me
>Marvel
>Jewish disney boss wants the shekels of everybody
>says we should do new stuff
>everytime we do something new we say it was an alternate universe
>to the point where we will have to reboot the multiverse like DC
>gotta break the status quo with a bunch of spreglord as my main writters
>OHGODBENDISISINTHETEAM.jpg
>Don't know how to write a character for shit
>write new shitty characters
>except they're the same as the old one
>Anidea.jpg
>Make them all "diverse" so people won't see it's the same shit they had 10 years ago
>1 year later
>sells are so low even my self-esteem is higher
>people saw through the "diversity"
>OHSHITGOY.jpg
>start screeching at the fans, putting anti-white male, pro-queer and gay messages, but most importantly call all fans nazis and shiet
>surely this will work!!

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>>94477382
Probably Cho too.

>>94476009
>>94477128
Pretty sure constant events and relaunches are more damaging to comics than twitter bitchfits.

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So I'm not the demographic and they have specifically said that they don't want white males to read their comics because it's not "for us". But it's somehow still our fault when their shitty garbage comics don't sell?

>>94477014
>>94477294
>if you ignore a problem it will go away

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Somewhat related.

>>94477448
That has never been the right way to deal with any problem, ever.

>>94476009
I don't see trolls making the shitty creative and business decisions behind modern comics. Unless they are purposely trying to crash the industry as a prank, in which case it is the worst prank ever.

>>94477382
Frank Miller
Howard Chakyin
Nathan Edmonson
Frank Cho

>>94477448
People simply being an asshole is very rarely an actual problem. Even if they're a wrong asshole.

>>94477472
it needs to crash again.

>>94477403
>>94477382
Don't forget the transphobic anti-Muslim Howard Chaykin!!! He should be blacklisted from comics and banned from twitter!!!

>>94477486

Comics, movies, TV, and vidya all need a huge crash. A cleansing. Burn it all down and start fresh.

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>>94477448
>making a fuss over what anons on the internet say
Are you 12? Are you litteraly 12? Or just /co/mblr?
Words on your computer litteraly only have the impact people give them, that's why I can call anyone a faggot on this site and nobdy'gonna go crying in their mom's basement, because nobody cares, grow a pair you faggot

>>94477441
Yes.
As a white male, you are obligated to buy and support progressive comics. Failure in doing so means you are a racist/sexist/transphobic/rapist that is dooming the industry.

>>94477453
hahahahah

>>94476009
Marvel is pathetic.

>>94477453
KEK. Based.

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>>94477453
>arguing on twitter

When will they learn? If you argue with every person and give them attention, you're just hurting yourself and giving them more ammunition.

>>94476009
That article was about five times as long as it needed to be to make its simpering, whiny point.

>>94476247
>Or ignoring it entirely.

This. Dumbshits need to stop feeding trolls.

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>>94477453
>i'd like you to hear me bitch about that guy in your company
>dude, i'm like, the company itself
How can they ever recover?

>>94476129

At this point, I'd settle for Quesadilla just admitting "Okay...Maybe we could have handled the why and the how of the storyline a little bit better than having Spider-Man make a deal with (Not)Satan to save the life of an 80+ year old woman who was content with dying anyway."

>>94476924

You're a fucking faggot dude.
Now give me your goddamn lunch money and sit in the corner while I fuck your mom's asshole until she forgets your pussy father's name, you fucking dork.

See, now on the internet me saying this means diddly fucking shit.
If I did this in real life, I'd be different.

>>94476710
You know, the whole argument American pro-gunners make about how the 2nd Amendment applies in the same way that the 1st Amendment applies to modern technology?

That was supposed to make you reconsider the opposition to the 2nd Amendment. NOT MAKE YOU THINK 'THAT'S RIGHT! WE NEED TO CENSOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGY!'

Fucking hell, we need to resurrect the English Radicals.

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>>94477012
That's why (((they))) are pushing so hard for the FCC regulating the internet.

>>94476009
>>94477128
>>94477163
>>94477167
>>94477194
>>94477244
>>94477286
Jesus. Did this bullshit article need to be this long?

>>94477635

Nah, if anything we need a serious war or something to distract everyone from all of this petty bullshit that doesn't matter.
Or maybe somebody can just biologically engineer up a Godzilla to decimate a few cities and bring everyone together. It doesn't even have to be a very big Godzilla.

>>94477670
Doesn't work. It'll be blamed on something partisan.

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>>94477668
yeah, the longer it is the more intelligent it sound to the masses so it's easier to steal their money, don't you know that goy... i mean anon?

>>94477658

Well they're not doing a good job.
The next and final push (For this year, at least) is soon, and so far there are many members of Congress who are not buying into Pajeet's arguments, and actively calling him out on his bullshit.

He's not making a very good case for the FCC's side of things.

>>94477681
>local man confirms godzilla is now an alt-right symbol on an anime image board
I want this on CNN now !!

>>94477681
I can see the headlines now.

>"The Zimbabwe/U.S. War, and how Twitter trolls are making it happen"
>"Godzilla: Force of nature, or tool of the capitalist patriarchy trying to keep minorities and women oppressed?"

>>94477668
Well, he has diversity quotas to fill, so yeah.

>>94477704
>Climate Change causes Monster Attacks
>Monster Attacks are just part and parcel of living in a big city.
>How Leftist Propaganda Encourages Monster Attacks and prevents a proper response!
>In the end, aren't white people the monsters?
>Monsterphobic: How Western Society Needs To Accpet the Monsters Coming Here
>Globalists engineer Monster Attacks to destroy national identity

Etc, etc.

>>94476009
How about they stop making shit comics, with shit events, and shit prices, and shit relaunches?

>>94477448
its not ignoring a problem its picking your battles and to get hung up over talk is petty because talk is cheap. there will be things that offend you and you'll have to choose whether or not to let those things get to you. problem is people try and say they can't control their emotions but in most cases they just don't want to out of the convenience of not being held accountable for their actions.

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>>94477244
>And this really should be done from top down. What needs to be found is a way of turning these examples of bad behaviour into an actual conversation. And I do not mean by the minorities or communities being affected — it is not the job of these groups to educate trolls; they are spending enough time dealing with the fallout and trying to live their lives.

>>94477735
>How Leftist Propaganda Encourages Monster Attacks and prevents a proper response!
>In the end, aren't white people the monsters?
truly a work of art, make people hate monsters and then guilt trip you for hating them
Do you actually work for CNN anon?

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>>94477758
No, I was a British Civil Servant though.

>MFW I read through all the documents on how the Civil Service actively socially engineers and tries to change people's behaviour against their will.

Yes, trolls are the reason why you're failing.

Now how do you explain the normies not giving a shit about anything you make that aren't MCU related?

(I'd say MVC Infinite, but even casuals fans can see how ugly looking it looks, especially compared to the likes of Injustice 2 and Tekken 7)

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>>94477786
tell me about the working class anon, why would they need a free will when we can't make money with it?

>>94476375
>>94476920
>>94477415
THIS

>>94477735

I could picture this in the next Godzilla desu. Because that shit there is exactly the kind of thing Shin Godzilla did.

>>94477808
Don't forget all the DLC and no X-Men/FF allowed.

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>>94477836
you mean we should allow people to like characters owned by another company?
What are you? a white male?

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>>94477819
>Tell me about the working class anon, why would they need a free will when they won't need it to conform to our planned societal structure and patterns of thought and belief.

Fixed that for you.

>>94477855

But Marvel still owns the video game rights for those characters and could use them as much as they wanted.

>>94477735
>>Globalists engineer Monster Attacks to destroy national identity
Isn't that literally what anon is proposing?

People keep talking about movie synergy shit, but I don't see it. There's no attempt at all to make MCU related comics. Say what you want about Dragonball, but at least they have synergy with their material for the most part.

>>94477881
yeah but that would be publicity for their movies, and we don't own thtat! We can't do that or disney will rape us again, I don't want to end up like Dark Vader's anus

>>94476009
I skimmed this. Wasn't this basically just: `"The internet is terrible because it gives neckbeards an easier way to voice their oppinions"?

>>94477881

That's how petty the whole thing is. They'd cut off their nose to spite their face if it would affect FOX because they own the FF/X-Men movies.

>>94477907
>Dark Vader

Greetings, fellow phoneposter.

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>>94477876
but would it be so bad if everyone is happy?
it seems to melike you need your medication and to get off /pol/ anon, it's bad for you, you'll end up virgin and fat and sad on /r9k/ !!

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>>94477901
I am interested in your position, and would like to know more.

>Years ago
>Hey guys, framing the core audience as being generally toxic and bad people and saying that you don't care what they want in an effort to reach a new audience that does not and has never bought comics is just going to push the core audience away and get you no new readers... because those people don't buy comics.
>SHUT UP YOU ASSHOLE! WATCH US!

It's hilarious.

I also don't get how comic fandom would ever make me really stop wanting to read comics. Reading is a solitary activity. I like books /co/ and other places hate, boo hoo, I just don't talk about them here, so what?

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>>94477923
shit, I didn't even realise my mistake, it's been so long since i've cared about anything SW related,
It's kinda sad

>>94477163
>And certainly of late, we have seen female creators and editors and trans creators and editors face an insane amount of hate, irrational thinking and vile speech

Okay, so, a lot of this stuff that comes out turns out to be way overblown, but I think it's also worth stating that this NEVER happens to female writers, or otherwise, who don't run out making their genitals or sexual orientation the primary core of their identity and actively screaming about it and fighting people on twitter over nothing.

It's ALWAYs writers or people who regularly get into shit.

It's like complaining that kids who regularly play in the mud got dirty.

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They can't even do proper Tumblr SJW shit for fuck's sake.

Steven Universe looks like a naturally well-fleshed setting compared to SJW 616. Fucking DC does better SJW shit than Marvel.

Hell, it doesn't help that Marvel's SJW push looks disingenuous thanks it being run by one of Trump's biggest donors.

Hell, I bet you that a writing team from Steven Universe and Dream Daddy can make better SJW 616 Comics than Marvel's current lineup. It's fucking embarrassing.

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>>94477994
I think the biggest misconception about all this is that normies are sure we hate "diverse" characters and we are racists, when in fatc what we hate is how they hide their shit writting behind the "diversity card"
But since we're against it, we're the nzis, totally not the company abusing race and genders as a way to up shitty comics sales, right

>>94477955
>see because we are at a time when those women, POC, and minorities are at least being attempted to be brought into the comics community.

I love seeing people say stuff like this and just erase literally half a century of inclusion the comics industry worked towards.

Please, no one remember that comic books sought to appeal to social outcasts and minorities in the sixties! Forget! Forget!

>>94476383

Can you imagine a superhero story that satirises this? A Not!Avengers/Justice League that loses power and respect because the new members are a bunch of cock ups who refuse to admit their mistakes, only to be forcibly usurped by a bigger group that does a better job.

The members that got kicked out for causing the mess in the first place split into two groups. Those who want to redeem themselves for their failures and those who want revenge.

>>94478040
well, when bendis is a part of it, what did you expect?

>>94478051
That's a big part of it.

I really hate it because I was a fiction editor and am a published writer, so I've gotten fairly decent at identifying crap, and the vast majority of this stuff falls right in the classification.

Nope, can't point that out, RACIST!

>>94478067
how did America Sanchez make your writing skills feel anon? How do interdimentional lesbain superman who still are hispanic/black make you feel?

>>94478080
Like the author cared more about hitting checkboxes and virtue signaling than building a believable world and cast.

The writer took a waterglass worth of depth and convinced themselves it was a lake.

>>94476009

THIS THREAD IS SLANDER.

THIS THREAD IS INTENTIONALLY LIBELOUS.

4CHAN IS LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMINAL MATERIAL IT ALLOWS TO BE DISPLAYED.

Oh hey, another person who thinks we need the government to regulate speech on the internet rather than just teach people how to ignore trolls/at least not engage them.

>>94478135
>Writer of this article wrote hitpieces trolling a comic creator before over identity politice
>Says trolls attacking creators are ruining comics.

Wow.

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>>94476167
>Someone was paid to right this
What a shitshow

>They said mean things to me on Twitter! Clearly the First Amendment must be destroyed! I'M JUST DOING WHAT DUMBLEDORE WANTED!

>>94478171

That's the most sickening part of all this. It's like a corrupt cop getting mad at other corrupt cops ruining the reputation of the force, while he takes a bribe.

>>94478171
What article. I think it's time for a judo move, claiming that the press are hatefull trolls.

>>94478176
First rule of dialogue is kind of, could you imagine someone actually saying this?

With their mouth, not writing it on a tumblr?

No?

Then it shouldn't be dialogue.

>>94478176
>I'm literally intrigued

...As opposed to what? Being ironically intrigued?
Bitch you're either intrigued or you're not.

giving bleeding cool an adblocked click was worth it for the comment section.

>>94478220
He wrote a slew of articles about howard chaykin's book the divided states of america.

If you google "Joe Glass Chaykin" You get I think all of them right up front.

He's of the opinion that the story should have never even been allowed to be published, and this one is particularly ironic, chastised Chaykin for not subcuming to the demands of the people who hated his work and prostrating himself over it.

That was in this one.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/07/03/howard-chaykin-responds-controversy/

>>94478261
Ah yes, Bleedingcool and Chaykin.

>You can write any story you want, we just want to know WHY you wrote that story... and no matter what you say it's BULLSHIT and you aren't allowed to defend it!

>>94478314

I wonder. who died and made THEM the boss of what should be made? Anton Ego they're NOT.

>>94477453
I wasn't hot on the witcher games but I bought all 3 cause those Polish bastards are glorious

>>94477448
I was pissed off when nobody liked BvS due to my DC autism but you know what I did? Defended and defended, and now a couple of people are starting to like it. They might be trolls, but its my favorite movie and I like arguing on the internet.

>>94478647
>anon confirms being 12 years old in a single post

>>94478669
im actually 23 but i have the mind of a 6 year old so it evens out to about 12
>GO NIDORAN

>>94478901
>anon confirms being a cinnamon roll too pure for the world

>>94476009
judging from how it's Marvel Wank... I'm guessing the writer is Josh Davidson? Christ he's the faggot who's also pushing for a Thunderbolts relaunch with the same fucking team. And the time he went all out to prove he's a real nerd by saying how he's a big fan of the fucking Atomic Knights when he started listing off characters he's a fan off. THE FUCKING ATOMIC KNIGHTS WHO HADN'T EVEN HELD ANY FUCKING BOOKS LIKE AT ALL.

>>94478928
ah no Joe Glass, he's a cunt too

>>94476097
I'm pretty sure he's shitting on Slott

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>>94476009
why do we talk about Marvel or DC like some standalone business separated from their main companies.

Warner Brothers owns CNN
Disney owns ABC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Time_Warner


these "comic book companies" are not exempt from heavy corporate interests, their stories, their projects everything they do is controlled from higher up, Disney says they are just "letting Marvel do their thing" you can bet your ass they will not, they have not let any of their properties just "do their own thing" as of yet, Marvel is no exception

DC, owned by the same company that owns and operates CNN, i am sure there is no influence from higher ups, none at all, no sire.

if Ruper Murdoch came out and started a comic book company or bought out something like Archie Comics, and started throwing his weight around in this dying market, would anyone just sit back and say that it was free of influence? no, people just like to pretend that WB/Disney is some agenda free corporations for some goddamn reason.

>>94476375
>JUST WRITE GOOD COMICS
Quality is subjective

>I'LL READ SHIT EVEN IF IT GOES AGAINST MY POLITICAL BELIEFS IF IT'S ENJOYABLE.

No you won't.

>>94478901
>Not evolving it
fag

>>94480948
>DC, owned by the same company that owns and operates CNN, i am sure there is no influence from higher ups, none at all, no sire.
Despite this, DC books have shown far less liberal bias than Marvel books. DC and its affiliates aren't to blame here.