I fucking hate you all

but anon we had to see if it was as bad as everyone sad

>>94456298
has to make at least twice it's budget before it starts actually making profit. remember ghostbusters and how much money it lost despite grossing over it's budget

>>94456298
nothing wrong with breaking even. We'll write off the failure and push the popeye film further back while we retool a emoji movie #2

>>94456333
That's just domestic. It's probably made even more in the foreign market

>>94456333
I remember suicide flop

>>94456333
>has to make at least twice it's budget before it starts actually making profit
because marketing is always equal to its budget
because /tv/ said so
because duuuurrrrrrrr

>>94456298
Look on the bright side - making SOME level of profit means that Sony won't try to rally people to see the movie with another, more effective manufactured controversy than the one they made about review scores.

>>94456371

In the case of Ghostbusters it's true. They literally said they needed $400 mil just to break even.

>>94456333
This is the domestic gross alone, once they release it internationally it'll make more. And why are people surprised? It's not like The Emoji movie will be the first shitty movie to be a financial success. Critics mean shit now in today's world, especially when it's common knowledge that they can be bought or made with political bias in mind

Foreign markets are going to blow this up even more

>>94456417
Just like suicide flop said they needed 800m

>>94456450
>>94456466
This is why I hate the chinkies in China.

>>94456450
>especially when it's common knowledge that they can be bought
Hi DCfag

>>94456333
The difference is that the Emoji Movie is guaranteed to make its budget back in merchandising alone. Emoji merchandise is absurdly popular.

>>94456450
It has already been released internationally tho. The movie which is still waiting for it's international release is Capitan Underpants

>>94456371
I would think that it is more than that really. I see freaking billboards of it and I live in the middle of nowhere. Unless however makes emoji are taking some part of the advertising,

>>94456333
they are planning a sequel to menbusters anyway

>>94456488
>Emoji merchandise is absurdly popular.
There's emoji merchandise and Emoji MOVIE merchandise. Sony can only make money from their specific brand of merch.

It's an OK movie.
Stop sperging autismos.

>>94456504
According to BoxOfficemojo the only place it's been released internationally so far is Isreal

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The Smiley Movie™ when?

>>94456531
Sony shill detected

>>94456370
Suicide Squad made almost 4 times its budget and sold tons of merch
It was a success. Critical means nothing.

>>94456298
This movie maybe sucked, but it also generated alot of discussion.

That's why they are making profit

>>94456495
Ghostbusters 2016.

>>94456531
Hey T.J!

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>THE EMOJI MOVIE

>>94456473
T. Butthurt weeaboo
Continue watching your hentai anime, you fat autistic neckbeard, while China grants you something called civilization

>>94456533
THE JEWS!

>>94456544
Which still destroyed all those "aspiring" SNL careers and sent the director into doing low grade schlock.

>>94456562
Okay Chow.

>>94456298
You do realize that Hollywood has a long history of making crap movies for families and returning a profit. That's why the swords and sandals genre existed. Small children and parents looking for a distraction aren't a discerning audience.

On the bright side marketing tends to cost as much as production. So 50 million is still in the red.

>>94456495
Trump 2016

>>94456666
>swords and sandals
but those weren't iredeemable garbage

>>94456562
Don't even like anime, cat cooker.

The studio takes about 60% of the Domestic revenue while giving theaters the rest of the cut
$49,451,704 x 0.60 = $29,671,704
The marketing costs were probably the same if not more considering the small production budget.

So it's made about $30 million so far and needs $100 million at the least to break even. It really depends on the foreign market if this will make profit or not

>>94456358
Are emojis even that much of a thing internationally? Like maybe US and Japan go crazy about it, but what about Chinese, Russians and Europe?

>>94456333
The bigger issue is time cost. A movie is considered a flop if the studio believes that the resources spent on it could have been used to make a more profitable movie.

>>94456371
Spending on domestic tv ads alone on a weekly basis is usually somewhere between $4m and $7m. This continues for a couple of weeks for big movies, and may or may not be particularly effective. High spends don't mean more visibility - just that ad space is at a premium that day.

For lower-budget movies, marketing is often twice or more the production budget; a $10m movie will get, at a minimum spend, $25m advertising if it receives a wide theatrical release, but that cost doesn't have to go down or up regardless of what you spend making the movie - it's just what it costs to advertise.

For bigger movies, double or more the base costs of advertising may be spent, because advertising means more butts in seats and that means more chance of repaying the production cost. While it may sound counter-intuitive to spend millions or tens of millions more to try and recover the costs of an already huge production, the fact is even if you only create enough excitement to reduce your overall losses, that's a win. Movies don't stop making money after general release and the initial surge of merchandising and home video sales are done; they have tv rights, they have long-term re-release plans, and back-catalog makes most of a studio's money each year.

The problem is that shitty back catalog makes less money overall, so that even if it eventually pays back you're making less, which is why it's important to convince people at the point of release that it's a good movie - because even if you end up with a "cult" movie, you'll still be making solid money from your investment down the line, and people will never really accept that it's bad. Chris Nolan has made his career on hokey crap like that, for example.

>>94456885
For as long as they spent on this in all phases. Yea it could have.

>>94456814
60% would be exceptional, 50% is more usual, but it changes daily.

>>94456885
This is also true. When WB made Batman returns, they doubled the budget from the first movie, but it made about half what the original made them. So they considered Batman Returns a flop and dropped Burton as director because he didn't deliver twice as much as he originally had (which would have been equivalent to about $1.5 billion today - and was unheard of then). Same too with Superman - the original made so much money that when the sequels successively failed to top it, the Salkinds ended up selling the rights to Cannon Films for pennies.

Worth bearing in mind the next time someone mentions Deadpool's success. Even if the sequel makes a profit, it will still be a flop to FOX if it doesn't beat the original in terms of invested money to profit.

>>94456814
Not at movies deals are created equal. The amount of interest the investors stack on their loan isnt always gonna be the same.

>>94456778
Chinese regularly eating cat is a myth. They are far too gamey to make good eating. Dog meat is where it's at.

>>94456826
I feel like in Japan at least the emojis they like look different from the ones they try to push in the movie. There's a definite difference between ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and a meh emoji

>>94456562
>hating china makes you a weeb
CCP's propaganda is strong in this one.

>>94457162
I thought that emojis were designed by Japanese mobile companies originally. That's why there are so many Japanese specific emojis.

>>94457162
That's an emoticon, not an emoji.
Emoji originate from Japan.

>>94456562
Go WE WON KONG somewhere else.

>>94456371
That's typically how it works though, at least for any movie that gets any kind of serious marketing push.

That is cool and all but how is the ironic dollar exchange rate these days?

>>94456510
>they are planning a sequel to menbusters anyway
Not anymore they're not

>>94456371
Considering how much advertising it had and how much they were trying to turn this into a Minions-size franchise, I'd say it needed more than twice actually

>>94457524
>and how much they were trying to turn this into a Minions-size franchise
care to give some examples of their effort for that?

>>94456562

>China
>Civilized

They are npcs pretending to be civilized, in practice (aka everyday life) they are a soulless bunch that either make a fortune by selling out their own kinsmen or get dragged down by the countless miserable that surround you at all time by the tens of thousand. The very few among them who aren't like that have such little influence on things that they might as well be considered non-existent.

Fuck we're talking of a country whose law is so awfully made and inhumane that you're better off killing the victim of an accident than to go to his help unless you want to pay his medical bills until he go kaput. Ain't for no reason they censor their own internet so much, they sure don't want the world to see how awful it is back there.

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>still being asshurt the emoji movie is a thing

Didn't you wizards grow up with cartoons based off toy lines? Why are you all acting like this is a new low?

>>94457598
Emojis aren't toys.

If this was a movie based off of toys or even a game, I wouldn't really care but this is fucking emojis

>>94456298
Didn't watch it. Not my fault

oh please they probably made the money back with the advertisements from all the apps anyway

>>94457924
>Emojis aren't toys.
They are now. There's a lot of emoji merchandise.

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>>94456531
It was bad, but it isn't the end of civilization like everyone's saying it is. In my theatre there were barely any laughs, except for a couple scenes and it was the same old lady. It was really really generic, but there were only a few times where I actively hated the film (such as the use of that shitty PPAP video) and the rest I was just meh about it.

>>94456358
>>94456826
Well so far it's only done $12 million overseas so if that's what they're hoping will save this piece of shit then LOL.

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>>94458031
Post yfw six months from now Walmart has tens of thousands marked down twice for clearance toys literally shaped like a piece of shit just collecting dust

>>94456576
>into doing low grade schlock
Wait you mean they weren't already in that position WHILE making Nubusters?

What the hell are you about, nigger? This shit didn't even made its budget on its premiere weekend.

It's fucking dead both financially and critically.

>>94456371
t. Sony shill

>>94456298
and we hate you anon

>>94456298
Meh.

>>94456370
Homecoming wasn't a suicide anon, it was an embarrassing flop though

>watching this for shits and giggles
>the kids in the theatre excitedly say the names of the apps the characters went into to

The movie was shit but that made it worse

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>>94461542
>watching this and laughing like a maniac the entire time because of my friend
>kid a few rows back complains that they're bored
It was shit but I had a very enjoyable experience

>>94461581
Why was your friend making you laugh

This movie probably came out of "what do the kids like" and when they realized that the retarded youth don't use words anymore they put this together. Somebody definitely said along the way "this is a bad idea" but was ignored.

>>94456298
I wish I could force the fucking suits who thought this was a good idea to watch this shit, Clockwork Orange style, until they realize they're fucking idiots and should never make movies again.

>>94461646
because he was jerking off to this movie.

>>94456298
Totally unrelated question, but what is the website in OP's pic?

>>94461706
box office mojo

>>94456417
The budget for Ghostbusters (oestrogen edition) was absurd. Anyone that wants to spend more than 100milion on a comedy needs their head examining

>>94461761
Many thanks

>>94456495

>the cynics

Oh I'm sorry, we're we supposed to be optimistic about Sony's latest corporate grown cash grab attempt?

>>94461646
They were just making a lot of jokes, and my friend always makes shitty movies great.
>>94461704
This too

>>94456495
Why is Macks "the hypocrite" Eff dissing anyone these days? He's nothing but a millennial hating millennial that scorns people who are obsessed with Jap culture but has that same level of fetish for Black American culture.

I can't count the times where I see his tweets that constantly criticizes gamers, anime viewers, cartoon fans, but then you see him tweeting recently watching a classic or old anime, the latest children's cartoon, or about the condition of the video game industry.

The weirdest part is how he constantly hates Abridgers like TFS, yet he refuses to admit that his anime dub series is exactly the same thing. He even admits that comedy dubbing and abridging as whole is illegal and a waste of time, but those are his most popular works. And he continues posting it.

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Rate my waifu

>>94461989

So flat-chested her torso disappeared.

>>94461581
does anyone notice unforgettable tumblr emoji looks like sombra kek

>>94461542
>>94461581
>Watching this movie
Find the nearest suicide booth

>>94462091
>not watching shitty movies for fun
And I saw it for free!

>>94457976
They pay the apps to advertise, buddy...

>>94457598
that's a nice image to compliment your asshurt. just hide the thread dude, we don't sell tampons.

>>94456298
Don't blame us. Blame parents and their faggot kids.

>>94461989
Fuck off, dude.

>>94462142
wait what

>pay to advertise someone's product

That's not how it works at all

>>94456371
No, I'd because roughly half of the money goes to the cinemas/distributors. This is not some /tv/ meme, this is a genuine rule of thumb used in the industry. It's not just creative accounting either, it's confirmed by thinga like the Sony leaks.

>>94456298
Is anyone really surprised that the movie made its money back?

>>94462412
>not expecting /co/ faggots to waifu anything with eyelashes
wew

I actually watched this movie and the only part I disliked was the entirety of the Just Dance part; I did however find the Just Dance girl cute as fuck looking and I can't believe they left her inside the fucking Trash Can and that hand douche kicked the rope down there so they never get out.

Reminder. Everyone in that Trash Can gets deleted at the end of the week. RIP cute Dance Girl

>>94462701
Yes it does in media. You can't mention or display the name of a company or product without paying them first.

>>94456530
Is there even any Emoji movie merchandise? I haven't seen any.

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>>94462982
Yeah, that really surprised me that they left her down there. Maybe the joke would work better if it was just the trolls, but it was them and a fucking cute girl they danced with and had fun with.

>>94462991
Do you actually think they went out of their way to pay for dropbox to be in the movie

>>94456298
We already knew that Anon.

>>94462982
>not disliking the YouTube bit with a year old dead meme
lol wut

>>94463084
Need more pictures of her

>>94456333
Emoji movies marketing can't possibly be close to what they did for Ghostbusters.

Sony wanted to make the latter into a franchise, this is a kid's movie designed to get their parent's money.

>>94463159
Definitely need higher def images of her runny makeup

>>94457924
How are emojis any different from your typical pop culture fad?

>>94462907
It hasn't. A typical Hollywood movie needs to do at least 3 times its budget to break even. Theaters keep 50% of the ticket price during the opening month, and their percentage increases afterward. Foreign markets keep as high as 75% of the ticket price.

That said, it likely will break even. The last Smurfs movie was able to, and it cost more and got less exposure than the Emoji movie.

>>94463220
They're just faces. They aren't really a fad, they've been around for a while and are consistently used by almost everybody with a phone. Nobody looks at them and thinks "I wonder what this face I'm about to send thinks about this". Nobody asked for this movie, kids were content with having them plastered all over their backpacks and clothing, and adults were content with sending too many of them. Nobody thought of them as something needing a personality.

>>94461542
>giving sony money by watching this movie

find the nearest bridge and fucking swan dive off of it, you halfling

>>94463309
This

Imagine if in the 80s some shithead made "the happy face movie"

>>94463318
As a Hobbit I find this highly offensive

I did not watch the Emoji movie and afaik neither did anyone else in the Shire

>>94456298
>For the second weekend in a row, Sony figured out a way to work around the Rotten Tomatoes system to get a lackluster title to open. Last weekend, it was the Emoji Movie, which posted an OK $24.5M in second. This weekend, it’s their Media Rights Capital co-production The Dark Tower, which is taking No. 1 with a modest take estimated at $19.5M.

>By no means can either film be considered raging victories – if they had been warmly embraced by critics and audiences, the sky would have been the limit at the box office.

http://deadline.com/2017/08/the-dark-tower-detroit-kidnap-weak-summer-box-office-weekend-1202143411/

>>94461827
No, people should've given it no attention like it deserved. It literally would've died upon release had people treated it like they do LAIKA films which is just not talking about it at all.

>>94464006
>Laika will never get the attention it deserves
why does it hurt so much

>>94462878
Plus, all the companies they had to pay to have their games/apps in the movie.

>>94463587
I'm from Mordor and it's the only fucking movie playing here
Send help

>>94456298

Why? Its not like we went to see it you cunt

>>94456298
I passed a kid in the mall whining about wanting to see it the other day.
Good parenting.

>>94461827
No but doing shit like creating videos where you play with fidget spinners while counting down to the movie's release date "ironically" really doesn't help prevent others from seeing it out of curiosity.

>>94456541
What kind of discussion other than shillings

>>94464396
A lot of the critics talk about the movie like it killed their first-born, making people curious to see how bad it is.

>>94464083
Because shit like the Emoji movie gets attention instead, and things that are unfair feel bad

>>94456450
>This is the domestic gross alone, once they release it internationally it'll make more.
Comedies struggle in non-English speaking nations. And it doesn't help that in China the phone apps are entirely different, even if they were mostly rip offs of Western apps.

>>94464504
Every internet critic I've seen has made a point to say "this is not 'so bad it's good'".

Traditional critics have not, it seems

>>94464607
I read an article titled "Do not see the emoji movie" and it mostly served to make me want to see the movie even more, which I did. Granted, I didn't pay to see it but it still heightened my curiosity.

>>94463291
>That said, it likely will break even. The last Smurfs movie was able to, and it cost more and got less exposure than the Emoji movie.
Frankly I expect Emoji to fail to break even, because it only made half its budget in gross in the first weekend. A mediocre film will make as much in its first weekend as the rest of its run. A surprise hit would have long legs, a bomb would make less.

>>94463587
>>94464236

>Not living in lothlorien watching superior kino in Galdriels mirror

Mortal plebs

>>94456344
>nothing wrong with breaking even

Except the fact that they are still losing a ton of money on all the shit that they had to pay for that didn't involve the production. Merchandise, advertising, etc all cost a ton that they're not going to get back if they just "break even".

>>94456370
>dc
>successful
>ever

http://www.strawpoll.me/13644128

>>94463220
Its just something too small and simple to make a movie without introducing foreign ideas to make any semblance of a plot. For example, and memes aside, think of the Angry Birds movie.
If it were something like a social movement or semi-biographical movies about how those concepts become popular, it would be different.

Make a movie about CGI sentient spinners or marbles and tell me how does it go for you
incoming Beyblade ripoff

>>94461987
Holy shit this. It wouldn't bother me so much if it he didn't do this knowing he's going after his target audience

>>94456298
Don't blame me for this you autistic little shit. I did my part and stayed home.

>>94463159
Nigga just jack off to the Great Faries from Ocarina of Time/Hyrule Warriors like the rest of us.

>>94461987
I recently saw a video of him arguing with Kaiserneko from TFS over the legality of abridging. It was one of the weirdest conversations I have seen on Youtube. He was arguing against Kaiserneko that abridgers should not make money off copyrighted work, that abridged videos should be removed if the copyright owner of the anime or cartoon requests it, and that abridging is against the law.

He cannot hide the fact that he does not like Neko at all and it seems that he hates the abridging community in general, despite the fact that he is considered one of the most popular abridged creators out there. Hell, like you said, he does not consider his dub series abridging.

>>94456471
But Ghostbusters did say that you can LITERALLY GOOGLE IT

>>94461989
0/10

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>>94462071

>>94456344
That's only breaking even with it's production budget. If you add in the marketing budget, it is considered a flop right now.

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>>94456298
Next time stop shooting about how this is the worst movie ever made and maybe we will don't see by morbid curiosity, asshole!

>"you're killing it Gene! Slay!"
I realized just how much I wasn't listening to this movie the first time I watched it because I'm catching all the cringy fucking lines I missed. Who thought Jailbreak's speech patterns were what kids are talking like nowadays?

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>>94456562
>Communist poo in the loo
>Civilization

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>>94463159
here's a picture of her dying face

>>94458137

Thank fucking God.

>>94469305

>Implying that this don't encourages piracy

But hey! 90% of the population are movie reviewers, right?

>>94463200
They wanted to make this into a franchise too, dummy.

They thought they were being oh so clever, they'd have the next minions.

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>>94463159
RIP your waifu

>>94456298
It needs to make a lot more money than that.

>>94456298
Jesus Christ, do people really have that much shit tastes?

>>94456371
Now you're an idiot.

>>94456814
>It really depends on the foreign market if this will make profit or not
China has horrible taste so it will probably make like 200 million there alone.

>>94461646
He is good at weiner tickle fights.

>>94456488
Come to think of it you do seem to see a lot of emoji stuff even before this film was announced.
Now the licenced stuff is gonna replace all that.