/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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LADS

https://imgur.com/gallery/5EHVf

Coruscant stuff apparently found in the alpha files of BF2

Also TCW B1 Droid for the Heavy class, from EA's Twitter.

>>94409023
Which SW woman is better:
Ahsoka Tano
Hera
Padme
Leia
Rey
Sabine
Ventress
Ayla Secura
Barris
Seventh Sister

Also,would you want Steve Jablonsky to make the score for future SW movies and to have Isabella Moner playing a young Ahsoka Tano in Ahsoka a Star Wars story.

>>94409126
I will take an Ahoska Movie only if it's directed by Michael Bay.


>>94409124
Me too anon...me too... He was just a kid...

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>>94409126
Aphra

I had no issue at all with Jake Lloyd's performance or dialogue.

Will we see Megatron fighting together with Darth Vader,probably not. Only if Disney will buy Hasbro.

>>94409126
>Isabella Moner as young Ahsoka
Isn't she just 16?

>>94409072
Coruscant could just be a campaign setting, but a battle there, like Naboo, would be pretty cool.
Just think, Assault on the Jedi Temple

>>94409124
>Acts like a kid
>Talks like a kid
>Looks like a kid
>IS a kid
>people hate on him like he personally took a dump in Sabastian Shaw's costume
So called "fans" make me sick

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>>94409126
Ahsoka

>>94409126
I have a soft spot for SS and Ventress so I gotta go with them.

>>94409126
>Steve Jablonsky to make music for SW
Yes please! He is great!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=4df74U4vaOI

Too bad that he makes amazing music for bad movies. Transformers The Last Knight score:We Have to go by Steve Jablonsky.

>>94409302
Such an beautiful song full of emotion for a bad movie.

>>94409126
Kylo. She is hot. Hera is hot too.

>>94409236
>That orangebutt
Steady penis, you can last the month
Just 27 days to go

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>>94409126
Zule Xiss

Jedi cyborg are sexy

>>94409126
Porgs. I just want to take some Porglets and you know...

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Why is Roger the best droid in the Star Wars universe?

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>>94409440
roger r34 when

>>94409430
No, I don't. And I don't want to

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>>94409490
You asked?

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>>94409440
>>94409490
b1, people think the b1 it the better droid
b2, hold my beer

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>>94409553
I never liked that B2 design tbqh

>>94409072
>>94409490
DESU I don't like the B-1 design.

It was supposed to be like a Nemoidian skeleton
But then they changed the Nemoidian design, so it didn't fit.
But then they created the Geonosians as the real makers of the battle droids.
And even then it didn't quite fit.
Should't they have digitigrade legs like Geonosians?

>>94409206
>Just think, Assault on the Jedi Temple
Or more realistically, space battle from ROTS.

>>94409638
Only if space battles are more like they were in BF2
None of this vehicles only stuff

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>>94409637
>I don't like the B1 design for things unrelated to its design
whoa...

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>>94409637
What do a Nemodian's legs look like?
I don't think we've seen them wearing anything but robes.

>>94409657
You'll get the space battle in stages like the DS DLC. Vehicle only for part, then no vehicles at all.

>>94409637
Well they probably walk easier the way they are, so

I like the Vader comic where Katrina see's the broken B1's as her children.

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Post dickgirls

>>94409675
It's more of a meta-complaint but I think it's still valid

>>94409593
6 years of TCW made the bulky B2's grow on me.

I love both designs.

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>>94409638

>>94409688
We see George Takei with more or less regular feet and legs

>>94409700
Fuck you.

>>94409695
Best gurl.


>>94409430
What does that mean? You wan to eat Porgs? We know that Chewie will have a fire at the MF. He will have some beer and some porglets eggs.

>>94409742
>No discussion! Only shitposts!

>>94409763
black people

>>94409695
Isn't that one of George's daughters?

>>94409784
No thats Chuchi, although his daughters were the same species

>>94409733
What?
What does takei have to do with Nemodians?

>>94409836
He's Asian.

>>94408545
I'm kinda with you, man.
Like when there's such a focus on customizations in FPS now, making your dude look how you like, within uniform regulation, and coupled with regional differences based on maps it seems like there has to be some major compromises somewhere, either by defaulting us when we go to 'specialist' environments or by limiting customisation to things that are transferrable over all variations or (and there's about zero chance of this) offering customisation slots for each variant.
I do want to see how they handle it.
Still not buying it at launch, until I see how bad their extra shit model is.

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>>94409553
Best version here

>>94409836
He plays a Nemoidian in TCW

>>94409784
How does George's daughters look like? Pic?

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Would you suck her dick /swco/?

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>debating between designs of b1 and b2
Get you a droid who can do both

>>94409891
I thought he played the Flute, not the Nemoidian.

>>94409947
Absolutely disgusting.

>>94409430
>Porgs. I just want to take some Porglets and you know...
What???? What do you want to do with the Porgs???


>>94409161
Yes,she is 16. I liked Isabella's acting in TF5. She was pretty good. It's weird that she looks a lot mature than she is.

>>94409947
the fuck is this monstrocity

>>94409936
>Implying that she has a cock
Why? She is a woman.

>>94409980
looks like its from the NOT CANON episode 3 game adaptation

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>>94409927
They had more screen time in TCW, forgot the episode tho

>>94409947
Kotor Battle Droid?


>>94409936
My new waifu

>>94410008
>>94409980
>googled "sexy battle droid"
>find this
>unzips dick

>>94409161
I just didn't like him blowing up the Control Ship
That was dumb.
And really, I think most of TPM was pointless.
Why not just start out with Palpatine as Chancellor and Anakin as a new up and coming Padawan?

>>94410006
Delete this monstrosity. All of them are ugly?

When showing someone Star Wars for the first time:

If they know the Darth Vader twist in Empire Strikes Back, have them watch chronologically. If they don't know the twist, have them watch in release order.

Is this fair?

>>94409993
>She is a woman.
Yes but she is a woman with a dick.

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>>94409023
Same peace faggot from the last thread. Lets try to keep the peace here.

New simple question, its not /v/ here I know, but what are some of your favorite Star Wars Video Games?
I'd have to say Empire at War and Republic Commando. I played just about everything though, Battlefront 1 and 2, Jedi Knight 1 and 2, Lego Star Wars, even a little known game named Pit Droid, anyone remember it?
Never played Knights of the Old Republic though, heard all about it bet never got around to playing it.

>>94410058
Everyone knows the Vader reveal.

Just have them watch Chronologically, so they can properly include Rogue One, and then progress into the ST without jumping around the timeline.

You'll find the stakes of the OT are much higher following ROTS and RO.

There's various other reasons why Chronological is the most logical choice, but those are just the most obvious and undeniable ones.

>>94410058
There's no reason not to watch them chronologically now that the prequels are all out

>>94410083
How is that even possible? George!

>>94410100
bounty hunter, its the only thing from the eu I miss from new canon

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>>94409936
Not into dickgirls, I'm afraid.
But I'd very happily visit my own menagerie of obscure fetishes on The Chooch...

>>94410058
ANH won over a whole generation.
Regardless of twists and what not, it's best bet to make someone love the series

>>94410047
TPM is integral in multiple ways.
From experiencing the corrupt mess of the senate with Padme that sets the stage for the clone wars, to Anakin's pathology, I.e. how and why Palp is able to manipulate him.
The parent subplot and the "can't stop the change" throughline of the trilogy.

>>94410058
No. The only true way to enjoy Star Wars (as intended) is to watch Rogue One twice, then the Christmas special, then Rogue One again and top it off with the Christmas Special again.

>>94410100
My favorite was Battlefront 2 (2005, obviously). I also loved The Force Unleashed and the Jedi Knight games. Never got the KOTOR hype to be honest, although I did admittedly try (and fail) to get into TOR)

Also I know people don't want to admit it because >Dice & >EA, but I genuinelly think the upcoming game looks like it could be the greatest Star Wars game ever made. Despite the companies previous failures, the upcoming BF2 looks like everything I could have asked for in a Star Wars game.

>>94410130
Not really. I love this series because of TCW.

>>94410100
I haven't played many Star Wars games but I do love me some Lego Star Wars.

>>94410156
That's your personal experience though
If you're just going for "Best chance of making someone with no experience love Star Wars", ANH wins that handily

>>94410130
I've seen many cases of people who watched and the Prequels first, and found ANH to be even more special following the PT. Seeing the son of Anakin Skywalker topple the giant must be an incredible experience.

I can only imagine its even more special following Rogue One.

>>94410115
The George wants what the George wants

>>94410130
ANH doesn't hold up nearly as well as OT fanboys seem to think. Even though it was the first one I ever saw, watching it now its pretty snoreworthy

Lego Star Wars 2018 set list:

75193 9.99 EUR TFA Millenium Falcon-Chewbacca.
75194 9.99 EUR TFA F.O. TIE Fighter-F.O.TIE Pilot.
75195 19.99 EUR Separatist Assault-Obi Wan,Rex and 1 Battle Droid with speeder.
75196 19.99 EUR Geonosian Cannon-2 Geonosians,Ahsoka Tano and Clone Trooper
75197 16.99 EUR TLJ Canto Bight Battle Pack-2 different Praetorian Guards,1 Executioner F.O. Stormtrooper,1 alien civillian and Casino build.
75198 16.99 EUR Tatooine Battle Pack-2 Jawas,1 Tusken Raider,1 Astromech droid.
75199 29.99 EUR General Grievous Combat Speeder-Mace Windu,General Grievous.
75200 29.99 EUR TLJ Knights of Ren ship-2 Knights of Ren and Chewbacca.
75201 59.99 EUR TLJ Canto Bight Chase-Rose,Finn,2 Praetorian Guards,DJ and 1 civillian-The set consist of an brick built Alien Horse,1 Canto Bight landspeeder(it' very long) and a small build which is a bar entrance with a table and drinks.
75202 79.99 EUR TLJ Battle on Ach-To-Kylo Ren,2 Knights of Ren,Luke Skywalker,Rey,R2-D2 and 4 Porgs. The playset has the Force Tree with a book in it's interior and rock formations with some small Jedi temples. It's a lot similar with Battle on Tokodana.
75204 39.99 EUR TLJ Resistance Ski Speeder-Captain Phasma,Poe Dameron and Executioner Stormtrooper.
75205-Exclusive TLJ A-Wing set-New Resistance Alien Pilot,F.O. Stormtrooper and Leia.
75206 16.99 EUR Geonosis Battle Pack-Ki Adi Mundi,Coleman Trebor,2 Phase 1 Clone Troopers.
75207 16.99 EUR TLJ Crait Battle Pack-2 Resistance Soldiers,1 Miner and 1 Alien Soldier.
75208 29.99 EUR Yoda's Hut-Yoda,Luke Skywalker and R2-2D.
75209 29.99 EUR Han Solo movie set
75210 49.99 EUR Han Solo movie set
75211 69.99 EUR Han Solo movie set
75212 169.99 EUR Han Solo movie set(probably Millenium Falcon)

>>94410128
>Not into dickgirls, I'm afraid.
She doesn't care anon. You will choke on that big blue cock, whether you like it or not.

>>94410179
I disagree, an entire generation started with TPM and they fell in love with the series just fine.

In fact last thread, two anons spoke about similar experiences. One person said that they were blown away by TPM. And the other said that he didn't really like Star Wars after seeing the entire OT, and it wasn't until ROTS did he truly see the series as something incredible.

ANH worked amazingly because it was the first (and mostly universally successful in hooking SW fans), but that doesn't mean it is by default the only "right" way to do it. TPM captures the magic of Star Wars very well, I feel confident that it works just as well as hooking new fans.

>>94410179
Eh,my sister didn't like it. She liked RotS.


>>94410191
That's pretty much true. I like this series but ANH is pretty meh for me.

>>94410244
This. Good job.

How is the Han Solo movie even going to balance itself? To my knowledge, it's going to contain Han meeting and befriending Chewie, Han starting work with Jabba, Han winning the Millennium Falcon from Lando, and various moments from Han's youth that got him on the trajectory to becoming a smuggler. That seems like a hell of a lot to cram into one movie.

>>94410244
>I disagree, an entire generation started with TPM
Is that true?
I was smack dab in the middle of the target demographic for TPM (10 on release) and I've watched the OT before that.
I think you're underestimating how popular the 97 Special Editions are.

Not saying against TPM or anything, just that I don't think it was as much as a blank slate as you're implying.

>>94410244
I can only speak with anecdotal evidence but TPM was my first Star Wars movie when it was first released in theaters (I was 10) and I remember being so confused that I didn't get much out of it at all. It wasn't until Attack of the Clones came out three years later that I started really liking Star Wars.

That was probably just me but I didn't think TPM was the best starting point for me personally because I felt no attachment to anything that was going on.

>>94410290
It's going to be total shit and we all know it.

I know it's Verboten to mention Those Who Cannot be Named, but they have a fun video about how very likely it's going to be shit

>>94410231
>A-wing
>Ahsoka set
B a s e d

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Futafags get out.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Many people started to like SW with TFA. Not me. I started with RotS(still the best one in my opinion).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9EIgWt0R-U

Name a more retarded SW related video than this

>>94410305
I'm just speaking of personal experience growing up where myself and everyone else I knew saw Star Wars in theaters with the Prequels.

We'd only then get to see the OT if they would re-run on tv, of if we were lucky enough to have parents who bought the VHS's.

Everyone in school, kids and adults, boys and girls, seemed to love the prequels. It was a huge craze. I especially remember ROTS, all our parents were talking about how good it was.

I'm aware that many kids still saw the OT first, or at least around the same time as the Prequels being released.

>>94410100
Battlefront II was THE shooter for me when I was a teenager. I flirted with Counter-Strike, Quake, finally settled with Halo and Battlefield, all the usual stuff, but it's BFII, of which I have the fondest memories. For a few years, very nearly every day played out the same, with me and my friends meeting together to play some splitscreen BFII on PS2 for an hour or two after school. It's a testament to the strenght of that social experience that the game had such an impact even though, to this day, I've never actually played it online.

>>94410290
Let's not forget:
>Wookie wars
>Turbo tanks
>Arc 170-Fighters

>>94410397
>Read the title
>cringe
>decide to watch
>first point is "LOL WHY DOES THE TECH LOOK BETTER?"
Fucking jesus christ, kill me now.

Why are videos like these taken seriously? No actual Star Wars fan should tolerate this.

>>94410244
I think TPM is missing a Han Solo styled Doubting Thomas.
Han was great in ANH so say "Force? Whatever, we have a job to do". Because that's what the audience is feeling. What's this Force junk? Why does it matter? I don't know anything about that.

TPM dives right into the Force and there's never a moment of doubt for anyone involved. You may say Watto fills that role, but Watto feels like a fool and is generally a bad guy. Han's doubts however is a bit flattering as this sexy charming guy is the audience avatar instead of, possibly, Watto

>>94410385
More?

>>94410397
I can't. How many likes and dislikes they have now?

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>>94409947
Would've been cool to see the B1s get phased out over time for one of the upper left designs.

>>94410290
Seeing as the movie is based on Lucas's ideas, Han meeting Chewie is almost certainly going to be told via a quick flashback, and wont take up too much screentime.

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>>94409126
You forgot someone

>>94410431
That's a penis

>>94410431
I don't really like those designs, desu
Too sleek and organic looking.
Not very rough semi-diesel punk designs that Star Wars usually has.

I like the Vulture droids though. They're more like an old Flying Saucer look

>>94410471
>sleek

DE pls go and stay go

>>94410484
What?

>>94410290
Do we know anything about his backstory yet? Did he still desert from the Empire?

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I don't know if it's been posted yet.

New Auralnauts video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNXFwHDMSY

>>94410416
Jar Jar didn't seem to believe in the Force.

>>94410489
The devs for warframe like to use the words sleek coding alot but no one knows what the fuck it means so its thrown around as a meme in /wfg/.

>>94410231
That moment when you know that lego will never make a new slave Leia minifig because Disney is evil.

>>94410503
>critical of the best fight in Star Wars

>>94410471
>sleek and organic
That was kinda the point in-universe, old canon had it that a lot of the Trade Federation and CIS droid designs were commissioned by a race of bug people that patterned them off of native predators. I like it, it makes the Droid Army distinct from generic worker droids and makes their designs a little more consistent with each other, so they actually look like they belong together in an army.

>>94409126
>Isabella Moner
Literally who?

>>94410503
I always hear Triple Zero's voice as Creepio's.

>>94410583
Maybe it does make sense in-universe, but if you go too far away from established art style, you get the abortion that were the Vong

>>94410595
Ditto.
I mean you pretty much have to

>>94410583
So the battle droids are based on Geonosians?

>>94410503
>the ref's stepping in to gague the situation

I love these guys.

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>>94410633
Ironically, it's the other way around now.
They were based on Nemoidians when they looked like this.
But that was changed.

George still liked the idea of the droids looking like their creators so he made the Geonosian heads look like a B-1 head

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>>94410633
Yeah.

>>94410688
You mean they simply reused the Neimoidian concept art for the Geonosians, which are the battle droid creators. The B1s are still based on the same design, but the species was changed in the story.

>>94410391
Same here. Got dragged into watching it at the cinema when 12 and it's still my favourite. It still mostly works as a good stand alone film in my opinion.

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>>94410688

>>94410736
That's pretty cool
Got any more TPM concept art?

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>tfw Republic at War
>tfw Galactic Battlegrounds
I play clones a lot in Battlefront 2, but it feels nice to play as the army of emotionless terminator robots every once in a while.

Has anyone some TFA concept art?

>>94410736
mfw B1 battledroids are terracotta soldiers

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>>94410397
>reads top comment
>there is only one good prequel and that is Rogue One
And close tab.

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>>94410756
A little bit. It's tough to find good quality McQuarrie art, you gotta scrounge around for it.

>>94410736
So,the prequels could have been better? What was the original script? Story about?

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>>94410836
I'm a dumb shit, that's not even McQuarrie.

>>94410831
I know right. Is there a worse place than Youtube.

>>94410397
Why does the tech in The Prequels/TCW look better than OT/ST?

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>>94410858
>tfw not even a CISfag but love STAPS

speeder bikes are cool too, but i'd be nervous about hitting things because they go too fast

>>94410860
>You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy

>>94410932
>speeder bikes are cool too, but i'd be nervous about hitting things because they go too fast
>Battlefront 2015 flashbacks
>it ain't me starts playing

>>94410939
True. But what about...Reddit?

>>94410898
>>94410898
Because the Empire brought on a dark age.

But really, it's because they weren't made in 1977.
Times change and so do what people want to see.
Why do the ships of Prometheus/Covenant look better than that of Alien?

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>>94410898
>government at the height of its power and influence fighting a secessionist movement that relies entirely on bleeding edge technological armies, necessary to have even a chance of beating trained organic soldiers
vs
>bloated, corrupt bureacracy consisting of mostly incompetent military warlords that got their positions through nepotism fighting a few thousand bumfuck rebels all using second or thirdhand equipment out in the boonies of the universe

>>94410985
Reddit has prequel memes so I look away at some of their transgressions.

>>94410898
Star Wars tech has basically been stagnant for thousands of years, and the OT was a period where no real advancements were being made

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>>94410932
the speeder bike chase on endor in rotj has been my favorite shit forever it is my fondest dream is that one day it will be real and my deepest terror that it never will be

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>>94409440
Radda Radda

>>94410841
Better than what?
They're already on par with the OT.

>>94410397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QOpYMsFXQ

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>>94411052
spotted the eufag

>>94411045
You're that guy from last thread.
I really hope you're just a tourist.

>>94411120
But its true though, people have been using laser swords and spaceships for thousands of years in canon. There isn't really anywhere to go after that.

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>>94410841
I wouldn't say the scripts would have necessarily been different, they just hadn't decided on the finalized character designs yet. Pic related is the early concept of ANH's cantina sequence.

>>94411163
Lucas always talks about how the cantina sequence isn't really as cool as he wanted it to be. Visually.

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>>94411154

>>94411120
Pablo is being a pleb.
The millennia old Empire/Republic with stagnant technology is based on Asimov's Foundation series.

Foundation is obviously a major inspiration for Star Wars

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>>94411139
Sure I am.... Or maybe I'm 66% of the posts in this thread. We may never know my true identity.

>>94411242
Is that why JJ gave the ST a shit foundation? A meta joke?

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Would you guys have preferred this to EAfront?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyNxhWHsjuM&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uKU_Z05vPQ

>>94411279
Look at the TFA vehicles concept art,they were more original than what we've got.

>>94411242
>Foundation is obviously a major inspiration for Star Wars
You again? I thought I roasted your deluded ass weeks ago. Foundation is about as influential to Star Wars as Tarzan. In fact, Tarzan is probably more influential, because Edgar Rice Burroughs' planetary romance in the form of John Carter ACTUALLY influenced Lucas, as opposed to the volumes of inscrutably mind-numbing jargon-rattling that comprises Isaac Anal-retentive's works.
Get your Hard-SF apologist ass out of here.

>>94411341
Was this cancelled for the same reasons as 1313?

>>94411380
Pics? :^)

I fucking called it. I knew that WhatCulture video was going to bring dumbfucks to the thread, and then I see this: >>94410898

>>94411385
>George had written the capital of the Empire to be "Jhantor" in an early Star Wars script
>Capital of the Foundation series Empire was "Trantor"
Yeah
Totally. No connection

You can have multiple influences, you know

>>94411341
Not really, although that music sounds dope.

But all in all, that game looks as barebones as Dicefront2015.

>>94410100
I miss The Gungan Frontier desperately and yearn for the days when I stayed up all night populating my moon with flora and fauna

Is it still playable somehow?

>>94411120
Phones made out of rock? Do you think it was magitech or more like the Flintstones where there were actually animals inside? Maybe they rode Purgill and other spacefaring creatures on hyperspace lanes or had them pull chariots across the stars.

>>94411341
>>94411396
Wasn't that just a CoD4 fanmod that got C&D'd?

In my opinion Rogue One is still the best Prequel movie ever. Best characters,best effects,best music,best story. Rogue One>>>>>>>>>PT

>>94411458
I don't even have an image for you

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>>94411424
HOLY SHIT A FUCKING RHYME? THAT'S YOUR ARGUMENT?

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>>94411396
Not positive. I'd bet it's a safe assumption.

>>94411453
No

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_First_Assault

>>94411453
Nope. Thats Star Wars: First Assault. It was a planned Arcade Shooter that got canned.

Supposedly it was being made to gague interest in a modern Star Wars shooter, but they ended up just going straight ahead with Battlefront 2015.

>>94411488
Star Wars has always been about rhyming

>>94411449
They used Porgs and Force Sloths. I really hope that the TLJ rumours are true. Imagine the fanbase reaction! How much divided will it get?

>>94411513
Like pottery

>>94411453
Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwEuBkBBso&t

>>94411513
Don't reply to him.
He's obviously just trying to stir shit up by acting antagonistic

>>94411529
I was just making a joke, my dude

>>94411519
What rumours?

>>94411449
>Maybe they rode Purgill and other spacefaring creatures on hyperspace lanes
LSG should get Zahn to put his "Warhorse" hat back on, and write about the early days of hyperspace travel.

>>94411542
Yeah, I know
Just don't feed the trolls

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>>94411496
1313 would have probably been the GOAT Star Wars game. Look at this Blade Runner ass shit.

>>94411449
He's saying that a cuneiform clay tablet would be the technological standard of distance communication 3000 years ago. That would be the extent of their ability on the timescale in relation to Star Wars' galaxy-spanning holonet holographic tv displays.

>>94411542
And I appreciate the joke, that and the post before it were A+ responses to my dismissive reaction image. But you know what else rhymes? Watto and Giotto. I don't think George Lucas had a 14th century Italian painter in mind when making the prequels.

>>94410397
The prequels are themselves the biggest plot hole ever. They should have never existed. I still hate Hayden and Jake Lloyd for ruinning Star Wars. They don't deserve to live. OT,ST,R1-Real Star Wars.

>>94411577
Nah it was in development hell and insiders saying it was probably going to be viewed as a dated disappointment.

The concept of a Coruscant-set game is still something I hope comes to life some day though.

>>94411600
>watto
>gee-atto

it barely rhymes

When will we get Prequel Trilogy remakes? They remade Clone Wars they can do the same for PT.

>>94411667
Who is responsible for this?

>>94411645
Giotto is pronounced "Jotto" you fucking illiterate philistine. Go back to jacking off to the fundamental (or should I say Foundational? HAW) opposite of all that is Star Wars.

Disney needs to make worse SW movie than the PT and the all hate will go to them,right?
Why aren't the Star Trek fans like the SW or TF ones?

>>94411667
PREQUEL SPECIAL EDITIONS
W
H
E
N

SCENE WHERE ANAKIN GIVES AHSOKA HALF THE 501ST
W
H
E
N

>>94411728
I don't speak french you fucking fag

>>94411772
>SCENE WHERE ANAKIN GIVES AHSOKA HALF THE 501ST
Never ever.

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>>94411773
>literally say he's Italian in my post
>you make a French meme
By fortuitous coincidence, he actually painted a self-portrait featuring the exact level of flabbergasted disdainful contempt I feel for you right now.

The Prequels suck. WhatCulture was right.

Is he right?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z5uf1bkQQ-s

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Post Ezra.

>>94412123
No,he said that Transformers The Last Knight will be bad. It wasn't,it was the best movie ever.
Don't believe him.

>>94412123
I'm not going to follow that link. If you want a handy-dandy guide to Star Wars "rightness", determine if the person giving opinions is one of the following people: Dave Filoni, George Lucas, or Sam Witwer.

If it's not one of those people, then whoever it is is almost certainly wrong.

>>94412123
About the good things, yes. About his general overall opinions on the prequels, hell no.

>>94412146
Flat. Post Hera.

Where are you Reylo shippers? We need you!


>>94412185
No post some Rey's,Hera had enough posts.

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>>94412209
There's only one way to ship Rey and Kylo, and that is Post-Operative.

>>94412146
Uncensored pls

>>94412209
It was said,through the ages
That without Reylo there can be no victory.
Now two fandoms are colliding
Only Reylo survives!

>>94412209
>Reylo
They are siblings.


>>94412271
Where did you get those lines?

>>94412249
There you go anon.
https://imgur.com/a/uG1xw

SW chronological order:
Han Solo a Star Wars story
SW Rebels
Rogue One a Star Wars Story
SW EP1 A New Hope
SW EP2 Empire Strikes Back
SW EP3 Return of the Jedi
SW EP4 The Force Awakens
SW EP5 The Last Jedi
SW EP6 ----------------------

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>>94409126

>>94412408
More OT shit.

>>94412375
Why?

>>94412302
>he still believes in Rey Solo
Embarrassing.

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>>94410100
Rogue Squadron, what else?

Fuck this shit I was hyped as fuck when we first heard about Rogue One, as I thought it was a movie about the Rogue Squadron, Wedge and shit.

Heck, they could even have done a full trilogy about them, instead of now doing some shitty movie about Solo and god-knows-what next, maybe that failure of a bounty hunter.

>>94411519
I really can't imagine. STAR WARS equals shitstorm, but I can't comprehend the scale. Regardless, watching the reactions will be even better than the movie. Them fluff balls are cute though. Mouths are a bit scary. Bet they'll be a big hit with kids if the mouths don't scare them off. All the money's in moichandising after all.
>>94411424
Is the Smoke the Mule or was Palpating?

>>94411458
>>94411607
>>94411667
>>94411882
>>94412375
Is there a point, other than attention ?

>>94411750
They already did.

>>94410416
We only need a doubter in the universe s introduction though.

>>94411488
>>94411385
Read books.

>>94409936
HELL YEA, dickgirl fetish is superior

>>94412800
That post was in response to someone saying that TPM was a perfectly fine introduction

>>94413788
But it wasn't an introduction, not to the force.

>Load One: A Star Wars XXX Parody

>Jyz Arsehole
>Assian Manwhore
>K2-Ass-O
>Blowdi Cock
>Chirrugburn Imweiner
>Glaze Malbutt
>Whoreson Krendick

>>94413896
>no Saw
>no Galen
>no Mommy Mothma

>>94413203
I do read books, not 20000 page political screeds from the Bolshevik counterpart of Ayn Rand. For that matter I'm not about to read a 5000 page objectivist screed either, but at least Rand had the decency not to pretend to be entertaining.

>>94414017
I meant to say 50000 page objectivist screed to embellish the hyperbole of my hatred for boring technical sociopolitical harangues masquerading as science fiction.

>>94410231
Wait the fuck up, is that list saying it's only 10Es for a Lego TIE? Even if it's merely F.O. that seems a little suspiciously cheap.

>>94414241
It might be a mini set or one of those micro fighters, because LEGO TIE fighters cost 20 bucks back in 1999 and that was a hell of a lot more than 10 euros, especially adjusted for inflation. Nowadays you'd expect to get a LEGO star wars ship for no less than 50 bucks.

>>94412558
>Defend the frigate
>Defend teh shuttle
>Defend the tranports
>Don't blow up anything except the targets
Man, I fucking hated the Rogue Squadron games so much, every mission was an escort mission or a hidden timered mission.

But I'll say this, I totally agree with you about Rogue One, I also hoped for Rogue Squadron, some familiar faces that had the lore but not screen time, and was pretty disappointed by what felt like someone just turning their tabletop campaign into a script.

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>>94414434
I'll never forgive Rogue Squadron for creating a legion of gullible EU fanatics who think the Y-wing was nothing more than a bomber just because Lucasarts needed to balance the game.

>>94411044
>boonies of the universe
are you saying I can't fuck my sister

>>94414795
The Y-Wing was a dedicated bomber as far back as TIE Fighter.

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When are we going to do another Waifu poll?

>>94414795
I mean even canonically, the Y-Wing is primarily used for Bombing until JJ decided X-Wings shuld do that too

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>>94414795
What's wrong with it being the designated bomber? Bombers are just as important as any other fighter craft. In lore it really is slower and generally shittier than the X-Wing, it makes sense that the Rebellion would relegate their surplus of older and shittier ships to more dangerous jobs than their small number of technologically advanced craft. Clone Wars even introduced it into canon as a new Republic bomber craft.

>>94416117
X-wings have been able to deploy bombs since fucking ANH, anon.

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>>94416167
>>94416117
>>94415504
Posts as stupid and uninformed as these prove me right.

>>94416185
horizontal torpedoes ≠ vertical bombs

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>>94416349
Bro, I know the Y-Wing is a fighter too, but it was also used primarily for bombing since the Clone Wars, this is no secret

>>94416349
How exactly?
I'm telling you that it's not Rogue Squadron's fault, they did that in the games since near the start man.

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>>94416398
There have only been two instances of "vertical" bombs being deployed from a Y-wing in canon, and that's the EMP bomb on Malastare, and the strafe on Eadu. All the rest were direct fire "torpedoes" (missiles).

>>94416443
They weren't dedicated bombers in X-wing or TIE fighter games, and in fact the first Rogue Squadron games didn't treat them too badly, but the second one and the books really went all out on the meme-ing.

>>94416437
Mainly because it was very good at it. It's a strike fighter, a fighter bomber, like a P38 or P47. It's hyperspace capable and can tough it out with capital ships like the Malevolence while blasting away its vulture droid defenders.

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>>94416349
>was used interchangeably with X-Wing in very first appearance
>portrayed as heavier and slower and capable of carrying bigger payloads in every single subsequent appearance
>"lol all these dumb faggots calling this space superiority dogfighting craft a bomber"
Face it anon, your shipfu is an ugly slow outdated piece of shit only good for sending out by the dozens in the hope that at least one will make it to the target.

Is the Meebur Gascon arc the unanimously agreed upon worst arc of The Clone Wars?

Which, all things considered, had some good things about it which I think just proves how strong the show was overall.

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>>94416412
I'm sorry, but I can't allow you to post that and get away with it.

The page literally says it was best used as a bomber, and was actually shit in dogfights.

>>94416574
The Meebus Gascon arc actually has some fantastic highlights.

As you said, it goes to show how good the show was when THAT is considered a bad arc

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In fact Y-wings are STILL used into the ST era, but they're clearly showing their age by this point.

>>94416547
>was used interchangeably with X-Wing in very first appearance
this defeats your next point so I don't know why you admitted it
>portrayed as heavier and slower and capable of carrying bigger payloads in every single subsequent appearance
It literally isn't, it's never shown as any less speedy or maneuverable than the X-wing, and in fact the special effects production material produced by Lucasfilm for internal consistency (as shown here >>94416506) proves it
>"lol all these dumb faggots calling this space superiority dogfighting craft a bomber"
never said that, you're hallucinating an argument which doesn't exist, aka strawmanning
>Face it anon, your shipfu is an ugly slow outdated piece of shit only good for sending out by the dozens in the hope that at least one will make it to the target.
that's rich coming from a TIEfag

>>94416576
>called a fighter 5 times
>called a bomber 3 times
really didn't make me think at all, X-wings and A-wings are vulnerable in dogfights too

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>>94416412
>circles "dogfights"
>doesn't circle "vulnerable in dogfights"

>>94416574
>>94416590
The movie was the worst part. It was probably worse than TFA.

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>>94416673
The fact that it's used in dogfights at all is the operative statement, not its indeterminate but presumable 1:1 or less kill ratio.

Again, this has nothing to do with the statement that it can be used for strafing or bombing, as the overwhelming majority of real world fightercraft are, or that it's better at that task than dogfighting, again, as a great many real world fighter craft have been put to use. but as a rebuttal against the fallacious claim disproven in every canon appearance of the craft going as far back as 1977 (earlier if you count first drafts) that it is NOT a capable fighter at all, which simply isn't true.

If I'm a normie, TFA is not actually bad.

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>>94416789
I think it is though.
It's a shit Star Wars movie like Into Darkness is a shit Star Trek movie, but unlike ID, TFA isn't even entertaining.

>>94416841
If we're doing that direct comparison, though, I do have to give TFA some credit for not being as aggressively stupid as Into Darkness, and also for not lying to audiences in the months leading up to release.

>>94416872
>for not being as aggressively stupid as Into Darkness
Nah, the mind trick scene is pretty stupid.

Somebody link me the best sw meme videos

So far I only have the techno union tambor vid

>>94416939
eat shit

>>94416841
No way man
TFA was not close to as shit as STID was.
TFA made logical sense along its plot
What everyone did made sense
It was cheap and stupid
But it made sense.

BB8 had the Death Star plans. Rey got the plans. Luke carried the plans to Yavin IV. The Rebellion mounted an attack on the Death Star and Poe Dameron shot a proton torpedo into the core to destroy the weapon.

It made sense.
STID couldn't even do that.
It tried to copy WoK but it failed hard

>>94416939
Auralnauts videos
RLM reviews

>>94417009
>RLM reviews
Would you like to hear my logical proof that shows that Mike is a blinded nostagliafag?

>>94416987
There's a fine line between stupid and nonsensical and R2 pouting crosses that line.

>>94417051
I'd rather hear your geometric proof as to why Mike is a blinded nostalgiafag.

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>>94416922
Okay, I'll give you that. But, to my second point, at least it didn't lie to everyone like Into Darkness did.

The whole reason the "Snoke is Plagueis" theory even started is that we had a run of high-profile nerd shit where the cast, the crew, the directors, and the production staff just flat-out lied to viewers.

First, in Into Darkness, everyone lied and said that Cumberbatch wasn't playing Khan. Then he was!
Then, a few years later, in the Bond movie Spectre, everyone lied and said that Waltz wasn't playing Blofeld. Then he was!
Then, in that very year's season of Game of Thrones, everyone lied and said that Jon Snow was dead for good. Then he wasn't!

Just outright falsehood. You can't really blame anyone for not taking producers and such seriously about things any more when they're willing to lie through their teeth. At least in the past they used to be shifty and misdirect rather than straight-up lie.

>>94417051
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that Mike and Jay (well more Mike "Third Reich" Stoklasa) is a hypocrite, but I think he's mostly on the money for the reviews.
Exaggerated and petty, absolutely.
But the basic criticisms are right.

Anakin is really a creepy ass motherfucker who no sane woman would find attractive in AotC.

>>94417129
padme is no sane woman

she's a politician!

>>94416841
As I like to say to my friends, it's a decent movie but a bad Star Wars movie.

>>94417129
>But the basic criticisms are right.
No?
Qui-Gon is easily definable under his criteria.
Wise, independent minded and not afraid to get his hands dirty for causes he deems worth it.

>>94416872
Bruh they literally lied about Finn being a Jedi. Everyone knew Rey was going to be the Jedi, it was painfully obvious, but the marketing was 100% focused on Finn weilding the lightsaber, showing both his scenes with it, and not a single hint of Rey with it. Even the initial toys reflected this.

It was borderline manipulative racism. I'd be pissed if I was a respectable negro fan.

>>94417199
Oh yes, the "What do you think of these characters" test
I agree that's the weakest part of the TPM review
It's entirely, at its base, subjective.

But some, even a lot, of the criticisms are legit.

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In his Nemesis review, Mike says that the picard hair photo scene shows the filmmakers contempt for the audience, but he sucks off The Wrath of Khan even though it had the scene where Chekov, the only cast member who wasn't in season 1, is the one the filmmakers pick to react to the Botany Bay like we're supposed to think he was there in the space seed episode.
If the the filmmakers cared in the way Mike says that nemesis doesn't, they wouldn't have used the ONE guy who wasn't one the show, regardless of whether or not he could have been serving on in the ship at that time.

Same issue that plagues everything Mike talks about.

>>94417242
Now you're moving the goalposts.

Qui-Gon is the main character of TPM, and the cornerstone of the entire saga.

>>94417253
He's totally right though
Disregard, his non-existent WoK review
The bald young Picard is totally insulting.

>>94417290
I'm not moving goal posts, I'm specifying your bullshit
You're saying that everything is stupid because of this one specific brief weak argument.
And that's totally fallacious and not an argument

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>>94417304
But if Nemesis was really so bad, he wouldn't have to resort to problems it shares with a ST movie he praises.

>>94417319
????
Now you're backtracking.

>>94417202
Nah it wasn't because he was black
it was because he was a MAN

>>94417338
But it's not the same problem?
The problem with Nemesis is that the filmmaker can't possibly believe that the audience can believe that Tom Hardy is young Picard if he has hair.
As if lack of hair was the only thing that made Picard, Picard.

The Chekov thing is, at worst, a retcon or an ignorance of TOS.
There are plenty of reasonable things, like if Chekov was just a crewman at the time instead of a proper officer.
It's not the exact same fault, like you're implying

Yes, Chekov being the recognized person is a fault since he did not show up during Botany Bay, but it isn't insulting like Young Picard must be bald

>>94417359
Backtracking from what?
Who cares. Drop it
Even if I totally concede that the Qui Gon argument was 100% bullshit. What about the rest?

>>94417418
>like if Chekov was just a crewman at the time instead of a proper officer.
You idiot, the point is that if the filmmakers of Khan cared, they wouldn't have picked the ONE cast member who wasn't on the show.

>>94417103
It also happened in 2012 with The Dark Knight Rises. Everyone involved with the film said Marion Cotillard wasn't Talia al Ghul, but she was, to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

>>94417457
Ok fine
They didn't care

But it's not insulting.
Just like I said.

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>everything in Inferno Squad
Did anyone else read it?

Any thoughts?

>>94417438
I'm not going to break down the three reviews point by point.
Would you spend that kind of time?
Think hard about that before you call my post a cop out.

>>94417468
That's moved into pure subjectivity and far away from his point being any kind of objective analysis.

>>94417482
No, I wouldn't.
You're right.
However, I still believe they hit some honest points and what stops /swco/ from recognizing their partial accuracy is base tribalism.

The arguments about the basic logic of the films are sound.
The arguments about the dialogue and the verisimilitude of it is also accurate.

I don't expect /swco/ to hate the Prequels, but the absurd denial of recognizing their flaws is borderline delusion

>>94417512
Ohh baby can't handle words?
Is baby gonna cry?
Is baby too stupid to understand?

(If you feel insulted, this is only subjective. Please refer to objectivity to understand and appreciate your own post)
"Subjective" things can have an impact.
Insulting is entirely "subjective" but no one can deny when it is.
Stupid fucking bitch *

*This is only subjective. It's not objectively insulting

>>94417563
>The arguments about the basic logic of the films are sound.
NO.
He doesn't even understand who the main character of TPM is, he's not at all able to understand the logic.

By god, he thinks the ESB "wars not make one great" line somehow doesn't jive with the PT! (IRRC, been a while since I dstoxed from my Plinkett phase)

>>94417601
>>94417563
classic shield gate

>>94417601
Calm down Rich.

>>94417669
Shieldgate was up the entire time.
Inferno Squad proves it.

Looks like you aren't real Star Wars fan after all

>>94417669
shield gate anon is ALWAYS right

>>94417477
I'm only half way through (Iden just had her first one on one with the Mentor) but I know shit goes wrong at some point later, but not the specifics.

>>94416780
I still don't understand how a Lightning is a Y-Wing.
It's greatest used is as a very fast aircraft killer. The Y-Wing's never been known as an aircraft killer.

>>94417658
Who was the main character of TPM?
It's not Obi Wan since on Tatooine we follow Qui Gon the entire time.
Ditto on Coruscant.
Heck, he has how many lines the entire movie?

>>94417742
The main character is Qui-Gon.

Why does Obi-Wan constantly lie to Luke?

>>94417803
Because of retcons

i didnt want to start autism i just wanted funny star wars vids :(

>>94417761
How do we related to Qui Gon?

>>94417836
Ask /tg/'s Star Wars general.
They're more autistic but a lot less antagonistic

(Auralnauts is good though)

>>94417846
He has to deal with a poofter like Ewan.

>>94417846
By being human?
Weird question.

>>94417711
>kills TIEs
>kills Vultures
???
P38 wasn't just a dedicated interceptor, it flew all sorts of sorties from escort duty, bombing, recon, etc, just like the y-wing, and it's even got the same planform
additionally, Y-wing is straight-line fast, it competes with standard TIEs and is just as good as the X-wing, its weaknesses are in maneuverability - P38J can reach a 600 mph dive but it ain't dogfighting with Messerschmitts or Kawasakis at that speed

>>94417877
just being human doesn't make someone relateable.

>>94417877
Stupid answer.
Everyone is human.
That's like saying a movie about Charles Manson has him as the protagonist just because he's human.

A protagonist is something we relate to on a personal level.
We understand what they feel and want them to succeed

Luke was a great protagonist because he was just a kid and wanted greatness.
We understood that and why he went along with Ben and Han

>>94417943
>guy who resolves to do what he feels is right even if it's against the rules
Yeah wow Qui-Gon is such a mysterious and impenetrable character

>>94417943
>A protagonist is something we relate to on a personal level.
>We understand what they feel and want them to succeed
Are you implying Qui-gon doesn't fit the bill?

http://www.friesian.com/starwars.htm
>Liam Neeson (Qui-gon Jinn), Natalie Portman (Queen Amidala), and Jake Lloyd (Anakin Skywalker) are perfect and convincing in their roles. Neeson is what we always needed to see about a mature, functioning Jedi, going about the business of defending peace and justice [note]. He does it most convincingly, right from the beginning, as we might expect from the man responsible for the portrayal of Oscar Schindler. We see quite a bit more of Neeson in Phantom than we did of Alec Guiness in the original Star Wars. Qui-gon is basically present and in charge of most of the action for most of the movie. We become familiar with him in many circumstances and come to know him as a tall, commanding, confident, and noble but also fatherly figure (note the graying hair). Perhaps after many years of Homer Simpson, Ed Bundy, and contempt for the 50's ethos of Father Knows Best, it is hard for critics to recognize a real father figure again. This is no buffed up Rambo and certainly no "wooden character," nor, as McCarthy says, "a basically stolid guy with only moderate charisma." No way. At key moments Qui-gon is even notable for his affection: touching on the shoulder with concern and protection Anakin's mother (caressing with his thumb), Anakin (with both hands, twice), and Padme (during the pod race), and in the end, while dying, lovingly touching the cheek of Obi-Wan.

>>94417942
Yes it does?

Who would have played Qui-Gon if Neeson had actually read the script?

Would they have done a better job?

>>94418047
Ecplain what you think is bad about Neeson.
Define "better job".

>>94418001
>>94418022
I am saying that.

Qui Gon is a static character.
He is already himself when the movie starts and he is the exact same as the movie ends.
I'm not saying he is a bad charactre.
I quite like him. I like him a lot, even if Neeson ignored most of George's direction.

A protagonist needs an arc. To be different from the start to the end.
Qui Gon is the same from the start till he dies

>>94418075
The problem was never Neeson.
Better job is defined as doing a job to a higher degree of competence or quality.

H-hey guys, Episode 1 was bad... am I right?

I'm cool now, r-right?

>>94418104
Nice strawman

>H-hitler was a bad man... Right? Am I... Cool now?

See how shitty that argument really is?

>>94418102
>A protagonist needs an arc.
Source?

>>94418103
But you didn't say anything about changing the script.

>>94418075
Not him, but Neeson fought George at every stage.
George told him to be cold and distant.
While Neeson wanted to warm and open.
There was a scene where Qui Gon told Shmi that he was going to take Anakin, Neeson wanted to hug Shmi but George said no

>>94418102
His arc is going from reluctant babysitter of Queen Amidala to finding the Chosen One of the Force and doing his damnedest to make sure Anakin becomes a Jedi, for which his life is a price he gladly pays.

But you wouldn't understand that shitposter-kun.

>>94418137
>doesn't know what an actual strawman is
>immediately goes for Godwin

>>94418157
No, no I didn't, did I.

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>>94418157
>Source?
Basic storytelling?
Since 10,000 BC?

I can't believe you're asking that

>>94418102
>>94418157
Actually, let's back up even further.
Movies, stories, don't need a single protagonist.

>>94418162
Sounds like Neeson didn't end up diverging from direction the way you tell it.

>>94418171
That's not an arc.
That's just describing what happens in the movie

>>94418190
What?
That's not a source at all. That's a collection of things that follow a guideline, not proof that said guideline is necessary.

>>94418213
Diverging from direction and fighting against what Lucas wanted to make his character as what he felt to be more believable are two different things

>>94418213
>Movies, stories, don't need a single protagonist.
True
But they need a single one
Where someone has a clear start middle and end.

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>>94418190
That doesn't look like proof to me. Looks more like a baseless "Argument" From Authority fallacy used to dismiss criticism.

>>94418215
>gives proof
>no that doesn't count
Can you at least pretend like you're trying to have a genuine discussion instead of degenerating to bait so quickly

>>94418215
Explain why a main character needs an arc.
Explain why it's not acceptable for supporting characters to have arcs while the lead stays as a rock.

>>94418278
You know you're not being genuine
So why even post here?

We're all trying to be honest and you're just acting like an asshole

>>94418266
>But they need a single one
>Where someone has a clear start middle and end.
No?
see
>>94418290

>>94418313
Not him, but you're the moron for believing Mike, honestly. It's already neen shown in this thread that he is a hypocrite.

>>94417742
>we follow Qui Gon the entire time

HMMM, I WONDER WHO THE MAIN CHARACTER IS THEN

>>94418342
Mike is a hypocrite
But that doesn't mean he's wrong about everything he's ever said

>>94418265
They're the exact same thing, dumbass.

>>94418366
No, watching anything he has made where he seriously tries to give an opinion on something should do that.

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Where was the "character development" and "arc" and "change" of the protagonists of the greatest movie of all time? These things are marks of good fiction, but they are the components thereof. Great characters can start out great and remain great at the end, as long as they're part of a well-written plot.

>>94418313
I am being genuine, you refuse to accept any arguments given by any other poster in the thread, steadfastly clinging to your anti-prequel delusion, just as shieldgate, secret=/=illegal, force isn't genetic anon has done for the past two months.