Why is it that Marvel heroes don't really do the whole "secret

>>94370901
Nigga, the most popular event of Marvel dealt with this

>>94370926

How many of the Anti-Registration side in Civil War actually had a secret identity though? And of the ones who did, how many were A or even B Lister?

The Marvel Heroes you think of when you think Marvel are almost all pretty open about their identity, as opposed to, like, DC, where literally everyone keeps their real identity secret.

It's a mix of both

There are still plenty of guys that wear a mask. It depends on if the character needs/wants to hide their true self.

Luke Cage wants shitty thugs to know his name, to know his face and fear it. He's not afraid that some guy will show up at his house to start trouble because he's fucking bulletproof. And Luke's not afraid of the police or going to jail either, so he isn't afraid to show his face in public.

Then there's The Punisher, he just straight doesn't give a fuck at all

>>94371045
Isn't the secret identity thing not more about the safety of your family and people who are important to you who could get hurt?

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>>94371045
Through, I would read a story about the punisher getting a secret identity and becoming a polite average black joe.

>>94371126

I imagine most regular hoods would rather not have a pissed off super and his buddies gunning for them

>>94371126

Usually

Fortunately for Luke Cage his wife is a super powered person and so is his daughter. Other guys like Tony Stark or Steve Rogers don't really have any notable family alive.

They pretty much all had secret identities until 15 years ago. Captain America and Iron Man revealed themselves to the world in the early 2000s and Civil War followed shortly after that.

A considerable number of characters still maintain a hidden. Identity, however.

>>94370901
If you want to go meta, it's a matter of company tradition: Since the original F4 run the theme with Marvel capes is that superheroing comes after personal themes. Unlike DC where the main identity is the cape and the secret identity is the person, the main identity in marvel is the person, and sometimes the cape itself becomes optional.

In universe, almost all marvel dudes who wear a mask are street level people protecting their neighborhoods. Most of them have family and friends that could be potential targets and they lack the means to protect them. A good chunk of spider-man plots deal with this.

Others like Luke Cage don't really have anything to lose, everyone close to them is already on the fray with them. Then see Reed or Tony. you'd need to be a total madman to try to attack their families, so they don't really worry about it (note: Tony did for most of his pre civil war career, can't exactly remember why)

Mutants are a different deal too: The original team didn't have secret identities, they had aliases because the whole superheroing thing was done in secret from their 'rents and the law could label them a paramilitary group. Post O5 X-Men, the majority of mutants in the mansion didn't have a home to come back to, the X-Men became their lives, the aliases remained, but as a matter of tradition more than anything.

Mind, that there were many plots across many comics dealing family or close friends of public heroes being attacked.

>>94370901

Heroes in the Marvel universe know they're just going to be killed off and replaced with the latest SJW fad, so there's not much point in secret identities.

>>94370901
Because most of villains are smart enough to know that if you kill a superhero's family member or friend, they are going to hunt you down and possibly kill you. Will exception to Spider-man and Daredevil because they are pansies. One of the reasons why Kingpin refused to directly make a move against Hawkeye after he robbed millions from him was because he is an Avenger and Kingpin is a pansy that is afraid of the Avengers.

>>94370901
I've noticed that Marvel has been unmasking a lot of their heroes over the past few years. What's up with that?

>>94371319
This

>>94371319
>SJW fad

Fuck off with that shit, heroes been dying before your buzzword.

>>94372029

The whole secret identity thing is kind of cliche and has been for decades

>>94371217
the baby has powers? I havent read much of them since bendis first new avengers series and in that the baby had just been born

>>94371217
>Other guys like Tony Stark
The thing with Tony Stark is that he is already a celebrity with many enemies. So he is already in danger as a civilian and don't benefit from a secret identity. Even though he had a secret identity in the comics, the MCU didn't need it.

>>94372230
>cliche
how so? also it protects your loved ones but then again writers can't seem to stop people from finding out anyway for shock value

I think it gives you an extra layer for storytelling. the possibility of people finding out always looming over a heroes head pls the seperation of their hero and normal lives

say what you wil about arrow but ever since the supporting cast knows who he is the show isnt really divided into oliver and green arrow segments he's alway doing GA shit regardless of if hes fighting crime or not. I miss when he actually had a life. The mayor thing brings that back sorta but he is literally the worst mayor and always ditches it to do GA shit how does he not get impeached

>>94371360
>exception to Spider-man
Spider-man hunted down and killed the guy that killed his parents. He doesn't have a no kill rule. He has a no kill preference.

>Why is it that Marvel heroes don't really do the whole "secret identity" thing?
You have to keep in mind that super powers in the Marvelverse are practically left-handedness in terms of frequency. You aren't fucking special so why fucking act like it and if anybody tries to fuck with your loved ones, odds are good that they either have the power to protect themselves or you are or know somebody that's gonna kill anyone that fucks with them.

Supers are far less common in DC.

>if anybody tries to fuck with your loved ones, odds are good that they either have the power to protect themselves or you are or know somebody that's gonna kill anyone that fucks with them.

lol what

>let them kill my loved one because someone will avenge them

uh..no? also plenty of heroes have loved ones that couldnt take on supervillains and guess what it happens every time someone fucks with them

>>94372176

They weren't typically killed off for the sole purpose of being replaced by black women.

>>94372794

There is several in the past.

Cause nobody but children thinks it's possible to live a normal life and be a superhero on the side.

>>94372726
>live a double life out of paranoia because you don't believe you or your friends can reasonably handle possible threats even though your loved ones not knowing about danger is about a thousand times more likely to get them killed than danger knowing about your loved ones
Let's be realistic here, if somehow the Punisher time traveled along with a record of all the shit he'd been up to to some time before his family's murder, and said record was made public, would his family still be killed?

Fucking no.

>>94370901
I really miss secret identities in Marvel characters. Wish at least of few of the classic characters who used to have them could get them back.

>>94370901
Nobody has time for a full time job and being a superhero and doing normal life stuff and sleeping. Plus Marvel isn't bound as much by tropes like DC.

>>94370901
That's cause most marvel heroes don't act or at least aren't written like heroes anymore.

I think of them more like celebrities who want to project their views to the world through social media than I would a hero who is taking serious risks trying to help out while remaining anonymous.

>>94370901
The Fantastic Four and the Avengers are like celebrities, they have merchandise and good PR.

After Xavier's went public every mutant associated with the school got outed
And if you aren't with the X-men you're probably with one of the mutant terrorist groups and your real name is on a number of watchlists.

>>94372029
It used to be most of the heroes maintained a nominal secret identity at Marvel like Thor, Iron Man, Captain Marvel, etc. A big selling point of the F4 was that they were out in the open without a secret identity.

When sales slumped, they killed love interests off, resurrected dead sidekicks, printed new #1s, ran endless events and of course revealed secret identities. Since secret identities are harder to make secret again, most big heroes just stayed unmasked after a while.

>>94372330

Danielle Cage is the Captain America of the future

>>94372794
>>94372849
They were.
The major difference is that in a lot of cases, the original came back. When they did, the newer guy stepped aside and created a new title to wear.
A good example is Iron Man and War Machine. Rhodes took over for Stark for a while, then became his own thing when Stark came back.

>>94376542
The difference is back then that was the exception, now it's the rule.